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asciilifeform: phf ^ ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 16:34 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816308 << is there any need for that alternative? from my research static inline is one of the few behavioral commonalities between c99 and pre-c99. it also supposedly works across different compilers, etc.
diana_coman: phf, yes, it does; it's basically version 2.0
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 14:58 mircea_popescu: phf, Mocky ^
esthlos: gotta run for a bit, thanks for the info phf
esthlos: phf, I assume by ffi you mean a call to run-program, not a use of cffi?
esthlos: phf: was about to mention that
asciilifeform: phf: wb
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 10:22 spyked: phf's ld might add an "static" to "inline"; or not, not sure; can verify by objdump'ing vdiff and seeing if there appear multiple (with local linkage) definitions of xnmalloc in the same file.
mod6: this is what brought on the whole thing about phf doing his v stuffs or whatever.
trinque cares not; phf had just an IP for a long while
mircea_popescu: phf, Mocky ^ ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 19:42 asciilifeform: phf: let's start with the gate count
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 04:42 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815258 << phf's logotron handles it like a champ.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815258 << phf's logotron handles it like a champ. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: aight, i'm going to be out of commission until mid may. i have comments for eulora that i need to type up (i got to sit down with a printout out over this weekend), i'm not sure about the amount of work required for the grapher until i have time to sit down and read v.pl (i sort of have an idea of how to implement it as part of vtools, but i'm not sure if the slicing is adequate), until i do i don't have a clear idea of how long it's going to take. i m
mod6: Oh!? Congrats phf!
mircea_popescu: the day we celebrate the international phf's pregnancies day ?
mircea_popescu: afaik nsa always was exactly what phf is quoted above as having understood it is : the umbrella org for your manufactory.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-16 20:58 phf: i find the framing odd, i thought purpose of s.nsa capital was to assist ascii in his b-a aligned, but essentially personal endeavor, which might potentially have a return. somehow it turned into "pay ascii by the hour". if ascii doesn't want to work on cardano, it's not a b-a way to coerce him, but if the project still exists, is being worked on, then money will be spent when there's something to spend it on, and there will be a
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:11 phf: mcclim always reminds me of how rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only a handful people who actually worked with a genera realize how "special" the result of rms's work was.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, phf trinque BingoBoingo ^ lemme know if issues.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:11 phf: mcclim always reminds me of how rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only a handful people who actually worked with a genera realize how "special" the result of rms's work was.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 23:02 phf: asciilifeform: true king is a later invention, actual process is "choose king amongst yourself", and failure to do so is stupidity
mircea_popescu: phf, i thought dakar is in africa.
esthlos: trinque asciilifeform phf etc: what's the best way to deal with sbcl's package lock error when redefining run-program? my naive approach was to define a new package for the vtron. But I'm pounding my head against use-package anyway
BingoBoingo: phf: ty, fxd
mircea_popescu: phf, dun worry about it, gave me the chance to write one liner db implementation. in awk.
esthlos: trinque mircea_popescu phf ben_vulpes mircea_popescu et al: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-version-2/
asciilifeform: phf: whole 1950s thermonuke test period of usg consisted of it tho.
ben_vulpes: thx phf
ben_vulpes: shows up as speshulchar ^L in emacs; i've seen this before in other lispwads written by the github crew and don't really know what to make of it. convention of the ancients? perhaps asciilifeform or phf or someone else who's literate and knows history could enlighten me.
trinque: did phf or other lispers have commentary on esthlos' item? ben_vulpes? asciilifeform?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 01:17 mircea_popescu: phf reminds me of fucktard murdock "oh, we were first apple store"
mircea_popescu: i thought phf mostly did cmu cl
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 14:28 mircea_popescu: esthlos it is not standard procedure ; the emerging consensus is to have a dedicated philosophy file which a) all patches must touch (by protocol) ; b) contains comments as to the patcher's state of mind and c) contains one line per patch uniquely identifying it, machine generated. the format's not fixed yet, but as phf is working on a new proper vdiff it's probably going to coalesce around a variant of whatever he uses.
diana_coman: phf, further clarifications on your questions re eulora's protocol: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/04/17/rfc-euloras-communication-protocol-eucomms/#comment-1168
asciilifeform: phf: any idea how to make it ditch the whole machinefloat nonsense in favour of troo arithmetic ?
candi_lustt: phf: 8.75845727d0
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:27 phf: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/04/17/rfc-euloras-communication-protocol-eucomms/#comment-1166 << responded, but stuck in the approval queue
mircea_popescu: phf, well, sounds like you're having fun then!
deedbot: phf voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up phf
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
asciilifeform: ( at one time asciilifeform nominated phf to serve on the board in asciilifeform's stead, but there was no response, so i took it as a 'no ty' )
asciilifeform: ty to trinque , phf , mircea_popescu , the folx who gave asciilifeform sqltronics hints.
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall us discussing the matter of graphing and my saying "hang on, phf is about to write one then you can import it", but not worth spelunking for it right now.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 04:25 hanbot: phf et al: attempted to press latest vtools to the keccak head. v (mod6's) reports vtools_vpatch_newline not in flow, neither its antecedent vtools_fixes_static_tohex, despite both patches and (verified good) sigs present (they neither show up via flow command). v will press to vtools_vpatch.vpatch, but no further. see http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/oNRhE/?raw=true .
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 14:28 mircea_popescu: esthlos it is not standard procedure ; the emerging consensus is to have a dedicated philosophy file which a) all patches must touch (by protocol) ; b) contains comments as to the patcher's state of mind and c) contains one line per patch uniquely identifying it, machine generated. the format's not fixed yet, but as phf is working on a new proper vdiff it's probably going to coalesce around a variant of whatever he uses.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 16:25 phf: ight have time to sit down with v.pl before mid may. i can also just remove the right hand side of vtools for now, since this new complexity is coming from an experimental v graph anyway. i've no idea though if people are using a sha512 vtools in preference of awk vdiff / gnu patch.
asciilifeform: if you display the thing in phf's viewer, or mod6's , you will see a vertical 'pillar' of flow, rather than the familiar tree.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 15:27 asciilifeform: phf: witness what i did re mmap for instance.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 19:40 asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron
mircea_popescu: phf, i get it dood, takes some thinking you've not had time to do. it's not the end of the world or anything, what the hell.
mircea_popescu: phf, ok, so then say. "hey folks -- job fucked me over, i'll be lost in the swamp for [2 days ; 3 weeks ; 4 months]" whatever it is. why should i have to try and guess ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-02 22:04 asciilifeform: trinque, phf , other vtronicists : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000296.html
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 23:52 phf: well, i'm now convinced that manifest is an elegant, minimally invasive solution. i'll try it in a regrind.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 04:05 phf: trinque: it wouldn't, i believe there's an antecedent->dependency transformation issues (i.e. the transform in mod6 v is adhoc, so it can't handle the tricky antecedent graph). the approach hanbot used was to just use the patches from the left branch of the graph, until, per mircea_popescu's request, i write a general purpose v graph code.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 14:31 mircea_popescu: a right. hanbot do me a favour : download ~only~ those patches which are in the leftmost trunk seen on phf's viewer (so exclude vtools_vdiff_sha, and its dependents) and try to flow again ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 19:40 phf: in any case i'll produce a fix by wednesday, but not before. this requires careful work
a111: Logged on 2018-03-25 19:48 phf: hanbot: note that http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-vpatch/#selection-147.0-192.0 i'm going to fix it by wednesday, but if you can give me an unsigned rough draft of a keccak mp-wp.vpatch before then, i'll be able to use it as a test
hanbot: mircea_popescu i noted several times in the last weeks/months phf was reporting pretty clearly what was being worked on, etas, etc, fwiw --eg http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-25#1789616 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786023 . it's gotta be difficult to keep absolutely everything not only organized but also organizedly communicated, eh. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: yo phf, what's the status on any of the n items you were going to be delivering except failed to ever mention again ?
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: phf was last seen in #trilema 13 hours, 26 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <phf> “Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right (nytimes.com)”
mircea_popescu: !Qseen phf
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 15:51 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806496 << first world "men" don't understand the concept of hygiene, i suspect that as the infrastructure starts failing this would be the number one reason of rapid decay. hygiene not just in a sense of "washing hands", but the idea that there's certain procedures that you have to follow in order to not get fucked over by the environment
asciilifeform: phf: i saw 0 mosquito nets anywhere in BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: phf: if it wasnt clear -- problem is solved, i have the machine going
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 14:36 phf: spyked: what i'm saying is that you can avoid the injection without even introducing any new elements, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gYkxc/
spyked: neat phf, I had no idea that was possible. I was going to add some assert/check-type calls anyway though.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 15:08 phf: i think asdf is evil, version 3 is doing some straight up systemd shit. for those who don't know asdf 3 comes with fare's own portability layer called uiop, which in a very systemd agressive and underhanded style is superseding existing utility libraries.
mod6: <+phf> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805820 << https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6hkNuykz2RE/maxresdefault.jpg << lol, i had the same thing in mind. ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf in fact yielded up a pill that 1) makes it happen 2) doesn't write to disk
mircea_popescu: phf, yup. exactly.
asciilifeform: phf: 'statice'
asciilifeform: phf: also how 'joshua' did it, iirc
mircea_popescu: phf, moreover, the incentive structure is FUCKED UP.
asciilifeform: phf: and yes also it's a 'job creation language', and imho undeservedly gets good reputation among thinking people ( e.g. mircea_popescu ) because it is the 'jobs for greybeards' type, rather than 'for 19yo shits' a la perl
asciilifeform: phf: aha. process is unpleasantly reminiscent of programming in, e.g., 'prolog'.
asciilifeform: but yes, trinque , as phf demonstrated, with sufficient years of study of black magic, it is almost possible to use sql as if it were a sane tool created by sane people.
mircea_popescu: hey phf can i get a count of words / day in my loglines ?
asciilifeform: phf: machine seems to be something quite like the pizarro rockchip board but with screen,kbd,battery
asciilifeform: phf: whole spark of asciilifeform's interest in the '101' was that it has marvell wifi chip (on usb) and apparently nonaccelerated 2d worx with standard kernel
a111: Logged on 2018-04-25 03:25 phf: heh, main changes in recent versions of slime: additions of mezzano interaction (lisp "operating system"), but the lulzy part additions of large variety of deprecation errors and warnings.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-25 03:53 phf: trinque: there wasn't anything wrong with polarbeard's patches in general, he just happened to be doing his work when there was a lot of regrinds going on in the tree and after third time he was asked to regrind he decided he had enough and quit
mod6: phf: this is a solid point. I think everyone wants their own way of logging/logging statements.
mircea_popescu: phf, a yeah, there was some of that too, it's coming back to me now.
mod6: bah. *re: polarbeard, phf is right...
mircea_popescu: phf, wasn;t actually three times was it ?
asciilifeform: ty phf , trinque , mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: interestingly, phf's algo worx from cmdline but not from PQexec("....")
asciilifeform: ty phf !
asciilifeform: oh hey, phf's algo appears to work
mircea_popescu: phf, possibly, i'm not really THAT close to the core of that beast.
asciilifeform: phf: eggog, missing FROM-clause entry for table "module" LINE 1: ...tors) select * from moduli left outer join foo on module.idx...
mircea_popescu: phf, i expect it'll still re-calc the temp on every pass.
mircea_popescu: phf, it's what i suggested, he said it's just as slow
asciilifeform: phf your query's been running since you gave it to me, but produced sadly 0 output
asciilifeform: phf: looks like STILL geological
a111: Logged on 2018-04-24 19:28 phf: diana_coman: is the protocol the entirety of documentation for client writers or there's more stuff in the pipeline?