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asciilifeform: phf: but there was a short period in ustard history where they (mostly) maintained appearances of 'hey we aint nazi, not at all'
asciilifeform: phf: i dun for a moment suspect that 'set'em all on fire, let god sort out' is new.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 21:16 phf: asciilifeform: after failing twice i decided to read the readme lol
asciilifeform: phf: i followed the recipe on ave1's site, lol
asciilifeform: phf: -cross is the build-for-arm64-on-pc but you prolly already knew this.
asciilifeform: phf: afaik latest, yes
asciilifeform: phf: gliders don't get moved when landed by currents.
mircea_popescu: phf what's mocky done!
asciilifeform: phf: human pilot is insanity
mircea_popescu: phf i honestly thought ~everyone with half hour's interest does have the ~same dozen lines of bash, and so neve rsaid a word of it. i dunno why he doesn't.
mircea_popescu: phf this make any sense to you ?
asciilifeform: phf: no, per hash invocation. but loox like mircea_popescu dun like this method, would rather have the trees reground sooner than later.
mircea_popescu: phf i just read his thing in terms of "explicit flag, k by default".
asciilifeform: i'ma let phf clarify, otherwise it'll have to wait until i have a free hand and read his item properly, might be coupla days
mircea_popescu: no, afaik this is ~what we came to in discussion with phf re support last.
asciilifeform: i'm 100% in favour, so long as can use new file extension and not trip over own old patches. ( afaik phf's tool does not marry .vdiff string hardcodedly ? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: canhaz link to 'hey folx, phf's vtron out of beta, let's regrind trb etc nao' ?
asciilifeform: phf: plox to correct me if i'm wrong here
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 14:42 mod6: Before we embark on an entire regrind of the trb-vtree to use keccac, I think we just need a major release version of a "defacto" vtron that supports both SHA512 (for other legacy projects) and keccac. Sounds like phf's might fit the bill, but want to ensure that when the Foundation tackles this problem, it's on very stable footing.
mod6: Before we embark on an entire regrind of the trb-vtree to use keccac, I think we just need a major release version of a "defacto" vtron that supports both SHA512 (for other legacy projects) and keccac. Sounds like phf's might fit the bill, but want to ensure that when the Foundation tackles this problem, it's on very stable footing. ☟︎
diana_coman: I pressed only the keccak branch of phf's
asciilifeform: i thought phf's was backwards-compat?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 23:15 phf: considering the slow adoption of the keccak approach and also a large number of existing sha512 patches, i'm planning on doing a regrind where i merge the keccak and the sha branches together, so that vpatch/vdiff can produce both hashes on a switch, until further notice.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: believe or not, i still havent switched to phf's .
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 13:35 a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 19:40 asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron
asciilifeform: ty phf !
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 12 hours and 56 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf vpatch in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2557 , ty
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf vpatch in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2557 , ty
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 15:49 phf: lobbes: added
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850389 << thanks phf! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 18:09 phf: asciilifeform: i have a bigendian box and i also tested at least one call for bigendian test on it. i think it was diana_coman's keccak though
asciilifeform: but since phf has a bigendian gnat, could theoretically build ave1's
asciilifeform: phf: which gnat didja use
mircea_popescu: omg it's a phf!
diana_coman: phf, fixed link and thank you!
asciilifeform: phf: saw anyffing interesting on your voyage ?
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 33 minutes ago: <lobbes_phone> next time you're in the btcbase/patches boiler room, plox to add http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/09/logbot_command_router_python-genesis/ to 'bot' section?
asciilifeform: phf: fwiw i do not yet have a working heathen toolchain ( other than what shipped on the box ) either
asciilifeform: phf: this was on the off chance that you had a working replacement rom image. ( if you don't yet -- thing won't do you much good atm )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-08 04:08 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf lemme know if you want the magic pill recipe + patched flashrom util for c101pa .
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 6 days, 10 hours, and 44 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> lemme know if you want the magic pill recipe + patched flashrom util for c101pa .
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 19:40 asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 23:02 phf: asciilifeform: true king is a later invention, actual process is "choose king amongst yourself", and failure to do so is stupidity
asciilifeform: ( not to belittle the timetravel adventures of phf !111 )
asciilifeform: lol s/phf/phd
asciilifeform: in historicals: there is record where a 'let's nuke su nao before they can us' plan was given to truman, in '47. he did not sign, likely because it called for ~30 'fat men', whereas the entire stockpile was: 4. and grew at 3-4 / yr, assembly line stayed 'phf' for just under a decade, long enuff for ~parity.
a111: 2018-08-23 <phf> 1st of emigres to go straight into natostan * were serious world-class talent, others worked cashier jobs
asciilifeform: !#seen phf
a111: 83 results for "seen phf", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=seen%20phf
asciilifeform: !#s seen phf
asciilifeform: ^ afaik phf is currently the only other l1 fella with this iron
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf lemme know if you want the magic pill recipe + patched flashrom util for c101pa . ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:02 asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of the evidence was the computrace nonsense
asciilifeform: nao i need a payload (i.e. substitute for that 8MB turd the thing comes with.) lessee what phf meanwhile came up with.
asciilifeform: or use phf's beta vdiff , iirc it worx correctly
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu phf ^ et al
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 20:30 mircea_popescu: breifly back to phf 's discussion of r+ thing : i confess i mostly did it to encourage the "spammer" to put registration in. sadly... went instead the way of http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-13.log.html#t22:59:16
asciilifeform: ( iirc phf mentioned even having a working ru passport )
asciilifeform: i suppose i oughta have included phf in the list of 'i have nfi what ~they~'re still doing in natoreich'
asciilifeform: phf: aha
asciilifeform: phf, mircea_popescu : i half-expected 'lol noshit, any puzzler can be written as A* search, this is copout' lol
mircea_popescu: phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829555 etc! ☝︎
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 5 hours and 50 minutes ago: <ave1> found the raw logs here http://btcbase.org/log-raw/, this go back to 2016. Do you also have the raw logs before #trilema? and could I download these somewhere (I tried to search the log but, so far seems to be looking for a pin in a haystack)
ave1: !Q later tell phf, I found the raw logs here http://btcbase.org/log-raw/, this go back to 2016. Do you also have the raw logs before #trilema? and could I download these somewhere (I tried to search the log but, so far seems to be looking for a pin in a haystack)
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 18:26 phf: this is for scripting though, the constraints are presumably not as tight. also gc is a kind of outer bound of a problem, can usually be special cased on a case by case. e.g. in erlang's case you can do region based allocation per process: cons as much as you want, collect everything when process dies.
asciilifeform: phf: unless i'm mistaken, it is pretty tightly married to gc / ability to cons, tho
asciilifeform: phf: aha, conceivably can put it on one of those tiny 'secd' scheme vm's
asciilifeform: phf: i actually liked erlang, and even considered for battlefield, but ended up rejecting for the same reason as standard ml, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815589 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: o hai phf
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 22:03 mircea_popescu: phf no, they just didn't have fish at the fish shop ; the meat they didn't have at the meat shop.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:35 phf: i'm pretty sure we had pocket conversations during netsplits, that none of the bots heard
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 23:07 asciilifeform: phf: my alt-hypothesis is that it's something slightly different -- it's a haskellism. ameri-sad folx are irresistibly drawn to ~elaborately ineffective~ tech , that absorbs infinite 'ricering' ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-09#552410 ) while giving chance to 'show how clever'
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:35 phf: i'm pretty sure we had pocket conversations during netsplits, that none of the bots heard
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:34 phf: i mean to do reliable logging you need to track the whois "on server", and spawn 2 bots per server, which then all negotiate a single consensus message to promote to canonical "this is what was said"
mircea_popescu: otherwise what, one day you accidentally cut your kbd cable while playing with cnc mill, phf is stuck putting code into a111 to bridge electric airgap ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:31 phf: we've had this conversation long time ago, that irc loging is a purely gossip-like thing. at best you can say that "a111 received this message at such and such time, was claimed to be from X"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:11 phf: so +r drops the reliability of all logtrons
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:07 asciilifeform: prolly the Right Thing would be to have the actual logtrons ( phf's, ben_vulpes's , Framedragger's if he were still alive , etc ) sync to one another as fallback
mircea_popescu: breifly back to phf 's discussion of r+ thing : i confess i mostly did it to encourage the "spammer" to put registration in. sadly... went instead the way of http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-13.log.html#t22:59:16 ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:03 phf: asciilifeform: i saw it, i'm pointing out that this addition breaks things. you have to make sure that every single client plays along with freenode's defective ident system, otherwise you get breaks in logs, etc. e.g. phf bouncer is used as a fallback for logs, to ensure continuity, where the fact that the bouncer would come back naively (i.e. without trying to negotiate with nickserv) was a feature
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 16:49 phf: oh this is beautiful, the new "registered only" restriction on channels means that unless your bouncer auto identifies, you get kicked off the channel
asciilifeform: phf: approx similar to the sweat reqd to build own fleanode, aha
phf: asciilifeform is/was on server karatkievich.freenode.net (Montreal, CA), phf is/was on server card.freenode.net (Washington, DC, US) etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 09:50 mircea_popescu: incidentally phf is there a log bundle for download somewhere ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 14:12 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450068 << http://btcbase.org/log-raw/
asciilifeform: i suspect it was deedbot hiccup, rather than phf's logtron, in this case
asciilifeform: phf: http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-zero-foot-print-take-3-regrind/ is the one i missed, ty
asciilifeform: phf: i mean, this is a 'hole in the boat bottom'-level item, so imho oughta show if you find.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. can point to material in e.g. ben_vulpes's logtron, that is currently missing from phf 's ?? )
asciilifeform: phf: have you found that actual gap already happened somewhere ? ( if it did -- i missed )
asciilifeform: prolly the Right Thing would be to have the actual logtrons ( phf's, ben_vulpes's , Framedragger's if he were still alive , etc ) sync to one another as fallback ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: i dun get it, my bouncer worx ( i.e. the user fleanode sees, is registered )
phf: asciilifeform: i saw it, i'm pointing out that this addition breaks things. you have to make sure that every single client plays along with freenode's defective ident system, otherwise you get breaks in logs, etc. e.g. phf bouncer is used as a fallback for logs, to ensure continuity, where the fact that the bouncer would come back naively (i.e. without trying to negotiate with nickserv) was a feature ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: what were the inputs for the regrind ? seems like i missed something on ave1's www
asciilifeform: phf: mircea_popescu specificially switched on +r to cut down on spamola, see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839441 thrd ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:14 phf: well, that's how mountaineering business works: bulk of ascends are done by sherpas, who carry a paying lawyer on their back, but you still have one in a thousand die in an avalanche, so that the rest can pretend like they actually did something dangerous.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers??
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840901 << phf : come to think of it, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732869 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: in that case i have Great Biznis Ideas !11 why not, e.g., feed erry 10th one to pirannhas .
asciilifeform: ( similarly i observe that, e.g., phf , or ben_vulpes , do not post re ruby or whatever horror they're currently mired in in the saeculum, for what i suspect is same reason )