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asciilifeform: iirc phf did turn his c101pa into ~some~ form of usable

a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 19:44 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf turns out i was wrong re the rom, the rom-shaped object is actually a 1980s 'programmable event timer' thingie, am2971adc

a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 18:14 asciilifeform: phf: imho the ultimate bolix caper would be to rack a coupla working clones at pizarro & rent'em out. but admittedly this is , presently, nearly as far as the moon

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf turns out i was wrong re the rom, the rom-shaped object is actually a 1980s 'programmable event timer' thingie, am2971adc ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i did finally turn up a high-res (enuff to read the ic labels) shot of ivory2; http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ivory2.jpg << mirrored. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf rubbed in this point further downthread

asciilifeform: phf: imho the ultimate bolix caper would be to rack a coupla working clones at pizarro & rent'em out. but admittedly this is , presently, nearly as far as the moon ☟︎

asciilifeform was never able to find a high-res photo of ivory-3. perhaps phf has ?

asciilifeform: phf: i'm hoping i dun have to wait another full year for those docs...

asciilifeform: phf: tho imho ideally, we'd still get a decap of #2 after #1 is happily in a ersatz-ivory board and booting the full archaeological soft stack

asciilifeform: phf: aite

asciilifeform: iirc phf already gave one to some d00d who never came back

a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:04 phf: asciilifeform: presumably entire portage tree pulls from https:// unless trinque also hosting a mirror of everything (i haven't looked yet)

asciilifeform: ( phf's , mine, mod6's -- demonstrated correct )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: vtron (including phf's , and in fact his esp. well) solves.

a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:17 asciilifeform: phf: imho the correct thing to do, if you have 2 bitwise-identical patches , is to display only 1 ( i'd prefer it be the one using my naming scheme, given as it is my proj, but i also won't cry if it's the other ) -- and the sigs that match it

asciilifeform: phf: good % of the barf was actually my own, thing struck me as gnarly and with all the wrongest kinds of pedigree initially

a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:38 phf: i have a poc, that uses vpy as an alternative to EGIT_REPO_URI. you put all of the vpatches and sigs into /usr/portage/distfiles/vpatches and you have your wot in /etc/wot and you say V_HEAD='foobar' and it attempts to press whatever's in distfiles to the corresponding head, and then use it as a build target. it works, but i'm not sure that's the right direction..

trinque: phf: I'm developing a sense that lisp is a thinking tool, not an engineering tool.

asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=51 is example of useful (if you will) proggy written 100% in standard cl ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: part of this is that we're stuck with 'fast pdp' c-irons

mircea_popescu: phf need i tell you how cool'd it have been had you said this 2016 rather than 2018 ?

mircea_popescu: phf and i'm entirely unimpressed with carmack, either.

asciilifeform: phf: iirc trinque removed all network-dependency

asciilifeform: i was aiming for a kind of hybrid of jurov's http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/?v=makefiles and what phf has today

asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform is very very fond of phf's http://btcbase.org/patches , refers to it several times just about erry day

asciilifeform: phf: imho the correct thing to do, if you have 2 bitwise-identical patches , is to display only 1 ( i'd prefer it be the one using my naming scheme, given as it is my proj, but i also won't cry if it's the other ) -- and the sigs that match it ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf's mechanism did The Right Thing tho, a++, ty phf

asciilifeform: phf: loox correct, to naked eye

a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 02:46 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty

asciilifeform gently prods phf , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874673 pleez ? ☝︎

trinque: phf: sounds awesome, would like to eyeball it

a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 14:29 asciilifeform: phf: i like the explicit a/b dirs

a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 14:19 phf: vpatch is picky about what it accepts, it's basically only a/foo/* b/foo/*, where's vdiff can accept a totally random stuff like /foo/bar/qux diffed against /dev/null or whatever. right now even diffing two straight files e.g. vdiff x y will produce a non-pressable vpatch. this is all not so much a bug as an unexplored aspect of vdiffing which is also part of the whole rename tracking.

a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 14:07 phf: unless there are objections from others i'll add it to backlog

a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 02:46 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty

asciilifeform: phf: i fughet, is there a hopper in http://btcbase.org/patches that i can dump patches into, so i dun have to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874673 ? or is that still in the worx ☝︎

asciilifeform: phf: i really dun see what's wrong with the old form

asciilifeform: phf: i like the explicit a/b dirs ☟︎

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 11 hours and 19 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty ☟︎☟︎

lobbesbot: phf: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> plz send to addr in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1873029 , ty

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plz send to addr in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1873029 , ty ☝︎

venatiodecorus: phf: yeah i was actually just browsing the source and reading up on the history

diana_coman: phf, thanks!

asciilifeform: ty phf

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 3 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2798 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2798 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty

trinque: just need to make an ebuild of phf's latest, haven't done that yet, and to see what deps it will require in the genesis.

diana_coman: phf, also, perhaps snarf the V.pl tree from in http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/13/v-with-vtools-keccak-hashes-and-its-own-tree/ ?

diana_coman: phf, I wanted to sign your vtools patches but I realised that they are using sha so I don't really know: do you plan to regrind them with keccak?

a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 16:57 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: the 'horsecocks' one requires pointerism to be enabled; the new one does not ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 19:40 asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron

asciilifeform: phf: the early ver that was actually posted is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666647 . however there's a clean/rewritten one, in a 90% state of completion, not yet genesis'd ☝︎

asciilifeform: in phf's find

asciilifeform: phf: invoice asciilifeform if it ends up costing sumthing.

asciilifeform: phf: if the thing is a paper scroll etc, feel free to xerox and post it to my postbox if that's easier than scans

a111: Logged on 2018-11-09 18:51 asciilifeform: !Q phf didja ever get chance to unearth the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862616 item ?

asciilifeform gently prods phf re the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-09#1870461 cheops pyramid ☝︎

asciilifeform: phf: it displays ok on my box

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 3 hours and 23 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to suck http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2743 into http://btcbase.org/patches , ty

a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 07:03 mircea_popescu: phf "countrary" contrary

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to suck http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2743 into http://btcbase.org/patches , ty

asciilifeform: ty for the help, diana_coman , phf , et al

asciilifeform: phf: what iron was it ?

a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 08:10 diana_coman: fwiw I actually patched v.pl to use phf's vtools and it works absolutely fine; I guess I'll write-it up and publish the whole thing later today if nobody else does it

a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 14:43 phf: asciilifeform: i've posted a v.pl patch http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867871 ( archived http://archive.is/ZJUMM ), unfortunately since v.pl doesn't have its own vtree, doing it properly requires a bunch of extra work

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871781 << one of you, diana_coman phf mod6 asciilifeform do me a favour and properly genesisize v.pl huh! ☝︎

asciilifeform: btw phf i am enjoying your new logtron feature, with the paste snapshot

asciilifeform: btw i confirmed that phf's v98 ( when patched to remove the subkey handler thing ) successfully presses ch1-11, with bitwise-correct results ( compared with classic vtron )

asciilifeform: phf: right, my current understanding is that presently ~errybody has a kludged vtron, but no one yet posted a 'canonical' variant that's 1) properly genesis'd 2) worx errywhere

a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 03:21 phf: mod6: just fyi i was able to press eucrypt using v.pl by patching it to use vtools's `ksum' for hashing instead of sha512sum and `vpatch' for pressing instead of gnu. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PZ4hX/?raw=true

asciilifeform: fwiw i worked around last night's ugh in phf's variant, but i'd much rather use a properly polished item than my kludge

mircea_popescu: phf impressive dance you got there.

diana_coman: fwiw I actually patched v.pl to use phf's vtools and it works absolutely fine; I guess I'll write-it up and publish the whole thing later today if nobody else does it ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: phf "countrary" contrary ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: np

mircea_popescu: if it were a case of "phf why the fuck are you using non-v or non-tmsr or non-standard or non-something" it'd have legs. as it is it's "phf why didn't you intuit what's in the magic box under my bed" ?

asciilifeform: seems like the closest thing to a working keccak-vtron currently is phf's v98 tho

asciilifeform: i was able to regrind ffa today, using phf's vdiff, but atm cannot yet press and confirm that it actually presses to same thing as the classical

asciilifeform: phf: fwiw my orig v.py is pretty sad in several wellknown ways -- i'm not particularly attached to it, would happily take mod6's, if there were (did i miss??) a ver of it patched to work in keccak

asciilifeform: with all respect to phf -- it seems to me that he's the one with the nonstandard envir

asciilifeform: really, nobody ? why is it that nobody until phf's v98 felt inclined to change the routine, then ?

asciilifeform: phf: i dun want to glom python-gnupg into vtron tho!

asciilifeform: i can't think of anyffing to do but a) make flensed version of phf's that actually worx here, i have NO intention of breaking my legacy toolchain in which i still have 90000 unconverted private patches or b) bake an e.g. if gpg.__version__ = phf : ... else .... thing

asciilifeform: phf: can you plz remind me why you changed that routine to begin with ?

asciilifeform: phf: worx -- in the sense that no above eggog : but same result as previously, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wmR7H/?raw=true

asciilifeform: loox like i'ma have to strip out the subkey garbage, and regenesis, 'v98-that-actually-worx'. unless phf has better idea.

asciilifeform: phf: well that aint what i have here.

asciilifeform: phf: it will be even gnarlier, would have to parse the output somehow and essentially recreate all of python-gnupg ( wanna ? )

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 5 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> for that matter, it does same thing! with yours! pray tell how didja even test the v98 thing, on what.

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 8 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/patches/v98#L74 leads to http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WhT97/?raw=true on (apparently all) boxes containing asciilifeform's pubkey

asciilifeform: i dun have any cuntoo boxes here yet. all of my dev machines run vintage gentoo, where the gpg that python-gnupg sees is gpg2 (cuz idjit portage pulled it in, long ago). asciilifeform's actual pgp-ing happens on diff machine, naturally, with 1.4.10 . but apparently phf's hack for subkeyism breaks the thing in this combo.

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf for that matter, it does same thing! with yours! pray tell how didja even test the v98 thing, on what.

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf http://btcbase.org/patches/v98#L74 leads to http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WhT97/?raw=true on (apparently all) boxes containing asciilifeform's pubkey

asciilifeform: phf: right