mircea_popescu: trinque i think you have to do it ; reverse auction still not there.
mod6: trinque: yeah, not sure how that'd work. i'd like to see more price points. but if we can't receive dollars bought, then I dunno.
mod6: right now I'm working on buying some dollars and wires in place. but I don't have a price point yet.
mod6: as soon as I have one, I'll be sending out the invoices immediately.
mod6: We could do some sort of open outcry auction in here. Where Pizarro auctions off 1 BTC, and the winner send funds to specified destinations.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 22:25 mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to distinguish selling and buying auctions. change the "A#285" lede into either "B#285" or "S#285" and then if it's a S have it work as it works now, but if it's a B have it work ~reverse~, so smaller bids overbid larger bids.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 15:55 BingoBoingo: lobbes: Looks from here like you are good to go
lobbes: and now I can get ass back in year on auctionbot
mod6: i'm just saying, doing it 'botless'. like I say, "this auction is open for 72 hours, closes on X date at X time. Selling 1 BTC for USD. Winner of auction sends whatever wires seller specifies."
☟︎ mod6: people just bid by saying what their bid is in #trilema.
mircea_popescu: you really got it in for maximizing administration etc, huh ?
mod6: lol. I'd rather not do it that way. I'd love to use the bot, but sometimes gotta do things by hand when we don't have the tools.
mod6: I guess, either that, or we just wait until lobbes is ready.
mircea_popescu: yes, and that's fine, however a "by hand" approximation of bot function is nutty. doing flight "by hand" means flapping wings like birds, not trying to fart hot gasses like jet engine. sewing by hand means, with needle, not trying to do sewing machine. and dealing by hand dun mean "let's make noises like an auction bot by moving fingers on kbd", just talk to whoever set it up without the formalism.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, he can just auction whatever chunk of fiatola he wants to dispense with.
mod6: ah, i see, so for instance trinque could say, "selling 4000 USD for ECU", exactly like yourself with the last one
☟︎ mod6: that'd be fine as long as usd can be wired.
trinque: what was the problem y'all had with receiving?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 21:45 mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm sorry, but ima have to refund you. whole exercise turned into a massive pile of idiocy. im closing an entire bank out of the loop over their idiotic misbehaviour ; we'll have to try this again later on.
mircea_popescu: dollar to doughnuts, uppity female that's not being beaten enough at home ended up spuriously involved in the process.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: problem is, there's SO DAMNED MANY of them these days, structural measures gotta be taken.
mircea_popescu: we should not have permitted the whole house to be termited up, but then again, we did. in the sense dumbass dad did, anyway.
trinque: ah got it. bank shenanigans never end.
☟︎ trinque: iirc BingoBoingo received my WF, if that's still acceptable
mod6: we should ask him, I'm under the impression that doing stable wires to his bank actually shows "stability" and helps with his residency or whatever.
mod6: the DC needs a wire direct tho.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself.
mod6: BingoBoingo: do you have a preference re wire or WU (see above)
mircea_popescu: trinque it'd prolly be a good idea to get wires going as a "freedom of navigation" exercise.
mircea_popescu is certainly working on that, this inept bs can not stand.
mircea_popescu: typically female interests & preoccupations, "security" "redesign" etcetera NOT FUCKING SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: do you have a preference re wire or WU (see above) << Either works
mod6: mircea_popescu does have a point re 'freedom of navigation' tho. but ya, if it doesn't matter to BingoBoingo, I'm game.
☟︎ mod6: BingoBoingo: good with that for the remainder of the Wildcat Bonus ^
mod6: Ok great, thanks BingoBoingo
mod6: !!pay BingoBoingo 0.35714285
mod6: !!v 110744A1BF3E2324C5AC28B3108804B9B53138C82DDC4608C856B92A1FBF67F6
deedbot: mod6 paid BingoBoingo 0.35714285
mod6: The BTC-Dev Mailing List is still down...
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 00:22 mircea_popescu: dollar to doughnuts, uppity female that's not being beaten enough at home ended up spuriously involved in the process.
mircea_popescu: mod6 could it be maybe time to repatriate mailing list into mpwp format ? i mean, is there any advantage to sticking to email process ?
mircea_popescu: can always declare arbitrary links for mpwp redirection.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, mpwp admits post-by-email, which'd be 100% replication of that state of the art, w/o any clever scripts
mircea_popescu: otherwise, can have comments, can have users made for anyone,
mircea_popescu: but it means keeping email in republican process. this is something you actually want ?
mircea_popescu: well, is it worth our while to maintain two publishing mechanisms ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot feel like implementing a sig verifier in php ? :D
mircea_popescu: pecl = "php extensions", basically looks like some sort of fancy callout system. and yes, here to gpgme
mircea_popescu: though honestly, none of that's needed to check a sig.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm not sure why i'd want automated sig verification in this context.
hanbot: mircea_popescu i'd be happy to try, though i doubt i could deliver in the rightnao sorta timeframe lack of ml suggests.
mircea_popescu is thinking about it, could have muchly simplified mpwp, whereby if i sign it it's an article, if you sign it it's a comment, you can even have a golden border
mircea_popescu: if no one signs it it's an anon comment... goes to modqueue...
mircea_popescu: the problem is though... things like pics. wtf i'd do about those ?
mircea_popescu: trilema would have to waste >10GB of disk if i switched to png
mircea_popescu: yes but i use png SOMETIMES (neat coplors, like screen captures, jpg fucks up)
mircea_popescu: i'm also not sure if i want to make you use signer every time you leave a ocmment.
mircea_popescu: nope. experimentally verified, over decade+ of functioning, during which more "large pool of bots" than anyone's lived springs.
mircea_popescu: hanbot how many items did you have to call spam/ham since running it ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile current count is 126582 ; last month ended at 125355. so it accepted 154, auto-tagged 62, asked about 11 and rejected...
mircea_popescu: well... at LEAST 62k, there's some classes of rejects i can't count.
mircea_popescu: ah, figures further mucked up by a manually deleted mocky comment, i recall.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i confess that i actually am fond of the ancient ml format. no stylesheets, no buttons, just 80col text. << i've grown pretty fond of it too.
mod6: we'll have to see what jurov says, but yeah, I think it's an isp related issue.
mod6: mircea_popescu's idea of a very stripped down wpmp might be pretty interesting with "signed aritcle" or "signed comment".
jurov: asciilifeform: it was not automagical clever script, but that kako made available l1/l2 as .txt list. deedbot afaik does not have this, hence ml wot is no longer updated
☟︎ jurov: And yes, it's reverse cache problem. The move is in progress but this week i was mostly afk, will continue on it first thing today.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 03:33 mircea_popescu: sooo... go ?
jurov: (still copying atm)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 07:07 jurov: asciilifeform: it was not automagical clever script, but that kako made available l1/l2 as .txt list. deedbot afaik does not have this, hence ml wot is no longer updated
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 hour and 51 minutes ago: <Mocky> yes, I'd take one of your hoes no question
mircea_popescu: is this how you date, also, check your fetlife profile now and again see if any subbies sent... INVITATIONS !?
mircea_popescu: "i can't go talk to girls until i get a good job and have a house and another girl whose place they'd take and children and i am dead and buried already"
BingoBoingo suspects Iran would be happy to have a alf in their cyberwank saltmines on a part time contract
mircea_popescu suspects nobody can ever find out whether yes or no till they WALK UP TO HER AND SAY HI
mircea_popescu: and yes, if you're too lazy to go yourself it's acceptable to send girl. and yes get better girls. and so on.
BingoBoingo: Miraflores 1467, 11500 Montevideo << Or take the Omníbus out to Carrasco
mircea_popescu: isn't it unfortunate, how circumstances always conspire against you.
BingoBoingo: And looks like Iran actually has fairly respectable wall around their compound
mircea_popescu: go there, start corp with a local or two, get some "regional" contracts.
mircea_popescu: this is the sure sign of the man of valor, that all the dunces...
mircea_popescu: i thought so when it first started, but it's been ongoing for years now
mircea_popescu: recall, usg had its millenial moron installed on throne of saud
mircea_popescu: dood did the hussein bahamas thing, got fucked in the ass came back home declared victory.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Qatar likes their old friends Turkey et al
mircea_popescu: it's basically advanced outpost for gyaurs who can't turkey or iran.
BingoBoingo: See no reason to change friends because of fashion, and this is affront to pantsuit
mircea_popescu: "if man builds gate, it is impolite to come in through window"
mircea_popescu: i suppose "gawr" bettrer english notation of orig tc. gâvur.
mircea_popescu: speaking of being politically correct, hey Mocky ! you ever visited the near/middle east ? do you allah ?
mats: asciilifeform: sorry, no reliable sources yet
mats: his facebook is a memorial page now, whatever thats worth
Mocky: came a breath away from visiting Kuwait in the drivers seat of a tank, but never actually arrived. No other even near misses.
Mocky: i don't allah. i pantomimed allahing in mosques in my youff when visiting family. no arabic either
mircea_popescu: how does going to qatar and trying to start a computer consultancy business in lieu of looking for job sound ?
Mocky: that sounds scary as fuck, lol
Mocky: well what, that's how it sounds
mircea_popescu: if you do get anywhere with it, i'll squeeze this beedog here to go join you, so you have a sort of "mega engineer achievement unlocked" built in. and after that i guess i'll even chip in so you buy a prepubescent wife in the countryside.
mircea_popescu: but until then, we can be partners, i'll pay for the fare.
Mocky: lets see, never been, don't speak lang, never started a business, in what way could i actually be a good partner other than willing to go?
Mocky: not fishing for compliments, just don't see how beneficial
mircea_popescu: all these white boys, they stand out like sore thumbs.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-30 07:37 mircea_popescu: so they send another spy, and... well... same deal. and then more and more. eventually they ask a defector, and the guy smikrs and says "perhaps you might try not sending black people ?"
mircea_popescu: you understand, new businesses fail at an amazing rate, perhaps only comparable to new pregnancies (btw, any of the "right of life" dorks ever stopped to consider 1% of so of all sperm+egg combos ever make it the first WEEK ?). the point's not success, at the onset, the point's a) no obvious failure causes and b) a determination to give it a fair run.
mircea_popescu: moreover, success/failure yes/no is not so much the point. pizarro bought the failed remains of the previous attempt, and so on.
Mocky: at least it's not china
mircea_popescu: "but mp... how would i breathe there ?" "i dunno. hold it ?"
Mocky: fuck, i can't come up with a good reason not to
mircea_popescu: in fact, thinking about it, me and you might be the ONLY TO people present who've even ever been inside a mosque
☟︎☟︎ Mocky: on a side note, evidently my ex is a log reader now, got the question last month "are you in Uruguay?" now expecting to get question "you in qatar?"
Mocky rates chances of her figuring out irc as low
mircea_popescu: maybe the reason you two split up is you not giving her any credit.
Mocky: na, that wasn't one of my reasons
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 15:53 mircea_popescu: in fact, thinking about it, me and you might be the ONLY TO people present who've even ever been inside a mosque
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm talking cairo sandalwood mosq, built before they invented america. not bs ersatz-by-Eszterhas new world bs.
mircea_popescu: but since we're doing asides, hey Mocky what do you say, is bitcoin mmorpg even a thing ? hm ? HM ?
Mocky: it is indeed a thing
Mocky: on serious consideration, my only obstacle is that I don't have with what to make my ongoing alimony payments. I'm not going to break that promise
Mocky: 5 benjies per week
mircea_popescu: take her with you ? or is she stuck with small children ?
Mocky: what does that mean?
Mocky: I think that i can pull together enough to get me thru January
mircea_popescu: Mocky im not going to hold against you that you gotta pay alimony, you're not going to hold against me that i'm getting a larger share of our partnership! you get 40% of the thing (but work as if you had gotten 50%!!!) and alimony, i get 60% and there you go.
Mocky: holy shit, an hour ago i was eating waffles and now i'm going to qatar
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Mocky: These turn arounds can happen rather quickly
mircea_popescu: to quote 8.75% or so of all fetlife profiles of girls under 25, "do women seriously jump in a plane to come hang out with you???"
mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can't be done ?
☟︎ Mocky: 2-3 months sounds reasonable
diana_coman: now I wonder if Mocky will keep eating waffles in Qatar
mircea_popescu: though also al-hazar, and there's others. like 1k others or something.
mircea_popescu: Mocky do you have any fambly however remote in or about that could be re-connected ? a local will prove invaluable, and somehow i suspect the traditional "go to local uni, pick up young filly" isn't comfortable either for you or for the place.
Mocky: I don't know of any but I will find out for sure
mircea_popescu: alright. well, that'll be the first order of business, scout the place, register company, avoid the usual "we got ourselves a sucker" traps.
Mocky: diana_coman, no matter where you put "if Mocky will keep eating waffles" it gets inlined, since it always evaluates to true
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow you still want to do it, ima send you some dough you can buy ticket and things.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 16:23 trinque: than over w/e beer money on the shared hosting
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect qatar is deeply starved of world class talent. what specifically will it do i don't know, but i expect something along the lines historical experience. what did the germans do in russia, the spanish in tenochtitlan, the british in india and so on.
mircea_popescu: audit the govt's computers, get the usg piezos out ? make websites that don't take FIVE SECONDS TO LOAD, like EVERY SINGLE "sales" website of EACH brick-and-mortar sex shop in chicago ?
mircea_popescu: sell lemonade, for all i care, as long as it turns a profit and he feels like doing it.
mircea_popescu: the direct cause is literally that i perceive i owe rhodesia something.
mircea_popescu: ~ottoman lemonade, i'd guess. certainly the driver of the anglo habit.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:04 kristof: Can anyone tell me about how many broken keys phuctor has found?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:24 kristof: am I wrong to think that, you know, a responsible journalistic community would pick up on this, and the security community would henceforth start a widespread auditing effort of existing toolchains, right?
deedbot: kristof voiced for 30 minutes.
kristof: 30 minutes, only? They give me a whole hour at the brothels.
mircea_popescu: cuz their stupid mothers told them they're important and matter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and as irony has it, i supported serbia, also (though entirely for "selfish" reasons, at least if you asked 90s me)
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : minigame was going to work both an infinite-items and an infinite-lands update ; they kinda need the new client protocol (mostly to do on-demand content delivery) ; which is waiting for... cuntoo!
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Indeed drives are waiting in the bilge for instructions
deedbot: asciilifeform rated kristof 1 << new blood, tentatively
kristof: I'm not worth knowing. Just an inquisitive dilettante.
kristof: Actually, as I mentioned before, I've been a long time reader of your polemics.
kristof: I like logs, I might browse them.
kristof: I don't intend to be chatty, but I might in the future. Hopefully that doesn't sound like squatting to you.
kristof: The only reason I was in #asciilifeform today was that I finally read all the phuctor phun in its entirety (yes, I was being a bonehad and didn't read the stats, sorry MP), thought "wait, that happened?" and dropped by.
kristof: Oh, actually, while I have your attention, I thought I would mention that I did check out Urbit twice; the first was a few years ago back when they were still "ship", the second was maybe a year ago and that time I actually chatted a bit with those folks
kristof: I won't even bother because I have no faith in those people at all.
mircea_popescu: where's your article about when you sold your starship or what was it ?
kristof: The idea of a federated system of secure, persistent identity (where people are friendly until proven otherwise) is such a fantastic idea and they waste all of their time on a half baked walled garden.
mircea_popescu: and yes, it developed. today you could've witnessed a guy going to qatar of all places, on the basis of exactly that system of secure & persistent pseudonimity.
kristof: Neat. I'm reading your "Most Serene Republic" quasi-manifesto now.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in asciilifeform files : trump suspended joint exercises with south korea last month
mircea_popescu: us presidents make astonishing gimp bitches, don't they!
mircea_popescu is looking forward to buying some of these lappies then!
BingoBoingo: And there's still no confirmation on whether Terry Davis lives or dies