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mircea_popescu: trinque i think you have to do it ; reverse auction still not there.
mod6: trinque: yeah, not sure how that'd work. i'd like to see more price points. but if we can't receive dollars bought, then I dunno.
mod6: right now I'm working on buying some dollars and wires in place. but I don't have a price point yet.
mod6: as soon as I have one, I'll be sending out the invoices immediately.
mod6: We could do some sort of open outcry auction in here. Where Pizarro auctions off 1 BTC, and the winner send funds to specified destinations.
mircea_popescu: mod6 that part is what does not work, lobbesbot not yet capable of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-09#1833029 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 22:25 mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to distinguish selling and buying auctions. change the "A#285" lede into either "B#285" or "S#285" and then if it's a S have it work as it works now, but if it's a B have it work ~reverse~, so smaller bids overbid larger bids.
mircea_popescu: instead ~he~ gotta auction the fiatola.
mod6: right.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846157 << muchas gracias. I can confirm I can ssh in; www is back up ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 15:55 BingoBoingo: lobbes: Looks from here like you are good to go
lobbes: however I ended up purging the znc user and all traces from the thing. Coming live now from irssi from pizarro shared hosting (used danielpbarron's spiffy guide >> http://danielpbarron.com/2018/irssi-on-pizarro-shared-hosting/)
lobbes: and now I can get ass back in year on auctionbot
lobbes: *gear
mod6: i'm just saying, doing it 'botless'. like I say, "this auction is open for 72 hours, closes on X date at X time. Selling 1 BTC for USD. Winner of auction sends whatever wires seller specifies." ☟︎
mod6: people just bid by saying what their bid is in #trilema.
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: you really got it in for maximizing administration etc, huh ?
mod6: lol. I'd rather not do it that way. I'd love to use the bot, but sometimes gotta do things by hand when we don't have the tools.
mod6: I guess, either that, or we just wait until lobbes is ready.
mircea_popescu: yes, and that's fine, however a "by hand" approximation of bot function is nutty. doing flight "by hand" means flapping wings like birds, not trying to fart hot gasses like jet engine. sewing by hand means, with needle, not trying to do sewing machine. and dealing by hand dun mean "let's make noises like an auction bot by moving fingers on kbd", just talk to whoever set it up without the formalism.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, he can just auction whatever chunk of fiatola he wants to dispense with.
mod6: ah, i see, so for instance trinque could say, "selling 4000 USD for ECU", exactly like yourself with the last one ☟︎
mod6: that'd be fine as long as usd can be wired.
mircea_popescu: right ?
mod6: yup, totally.
trinque: what was the problem y'all had with receiving?
mircea_popescu: trinque twas with sending, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843936 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-23 21:45 mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm sorry, but ima have to refund you. whole exercise turned into a massive pile of idiocy. im closing an entire bank out of the loop over their idiotic misbehaviour ; we'll have to try this again later on.
mircea_popescu: dollar to doughnuts, uppity female that's not being beaten enough at home ended up spuriously involved in the process. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: problem is, there's SO DAMNED MANY of them these days, structural measures gotta be taken.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/qntra-s-qntr-august-2018-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) August 2018 Report
mircea_popescu: we should not have permitted the whole house to be termited up, but then again, we did. in the sense dumbass dad did, anyway.
trinque: ah got it. bank shenanigans never end. ☟︎
trinque: iirc BingoBoingo received my WF, if that's still acceptable
mod6: aha skulduggery
trinque: *WU rather
mod6: we should ask him, I'm under the impression that doing stable wires to his bank actually shows "stability" and helps with his residency or whatever.
mod6: the DC needs a wire direct tho.
mircea_popescu: very similar to, "what was the fucking problerm with namecheap ?" " http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/ aka, uppity" "and with fetlife ?!" " http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 aka THE FUCKINBG SAME!!" "and with everything else ?" "you guessed it... start beating the sheherd." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself.
mod6: BingoBoingo: do you have a preference re wire or WU (see above)
mircea_popescu: trinque it'd prolly be a good idea to get wires going as a "freedom of navigation" exercise.
mircea_popescu is certainly working on that, this inept bs can not stand.
mircea_popescu: typically female interests & preoccupations, "security" "redesign" etcetera NOT FUCKING SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: do you have a preference re wire or WU (see above) << Either works
mod6: mircea_popescu does have a point re 'freedom of navigation' tho. but ya, if it doesn't matter to BingoBoingo, I'm game. ☟︎
mod6: !Qcalc 2500/7000
lobbesbot: mod6: 0.357142857143
mod6: BingoBoingo: good with that for the remainder of the Wildcat Bonus ^
BingoBoingo: mod6: Looks good
mod6: Ok great, thanks BingoBoingo
mod6: !!pay BingoBoingo 0.35714285
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/V3Lqv/?raw=true
mod6: !!v 110744A1BF3E2324C5AC28B3108804B9B53138C82DDC4608C856B92A1FBF67F6
deedbot: mod6 paid BingoBoingo 0.35714285
mod6: !!ledger
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RAn1l/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: ty
mod6: yw!
mod6: The BTC-Dev Mailing List is still down...
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I have placed the signed STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS on my site, if you wish to read: http://www.mod6.net/2018/September/1/btcf_address_201808.txt
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846365 << the truly astonishing twist, is that asciilifeform not once yet had problem with swift tx. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 00:22 mircea_popescu: dollar to doughnuts, uppity female that's not being beaten enough at home ended up spuriously involved in the process.
asciilifeform: ( tho i expect that if i ever do, it will more than pay back for the lack of any to date, and take the form of cork-lined cellar )
mircea_popescu: mod6 could it be maybe time to repatriate mailing list into mpwp format ? i mean, is there any advantage to sticking to email process ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: link preservation
mircea_popescu: can always declare arbitrary links for mpwp redirection.
asciilifeform: theoretically yes
asciilifeform: how would submit work in a mpwp ?
asciilifeform: ye olde ml, took anyffing from l1, automagically, with jurov's clever script
mircea_popescu: for one thing, mpwp admits post-by-email, which'd be 100% replication of that state of the art, w/o any clever scripts
mircea_popescu: otherwise, can have comments, can have users made for anyone,
mircea_popescu: it's flexible.
asciilifeform: tests pgp detached sigs, attachments, all exists in mpwp already ?
mircea_popescu: nah, sig test would have to be added.
asciilifeform: i confess that i actually am fond of the ancient ml format. no stylesheets, no buttons, just 80col text.
asciilifeform: ( if posting via email worked, would be heaven.. )
mircea_popescu: but it means keeping email in republican process. this is something you actually want ?
asciilifeform: nah email dead
asciilifeform: hence 'if only'
asciilifeform: ( recall, i was never able to use the email knob on jurov's box reliably at all, but instead use www intake hopper )
mircea_popescu: well, is it worth our while to maintain two publishing mechanisms ?
asciilifeform: depends on how much maintenance it takes, neh
mircea_popescu: which is why i never mentioned b4.
asciilifeform: if it worx for aeons without opening hood -- worth
mircea_popescu: nobody really opens hoods of working machinery.
asciilifeform: seems like jurov had sad isp, naught to do with mltron per se
asciilifeform: ( if i'm mistaken , jurov , plox to correct )
mircea_popescu: how's ml verifier work, gpg shell callout ?
asciilifeform: pretty sure nobody has any other gpg eater than callout to koch
mircea_popescu: hanbot feel like implementing a sig verifier in php ? :D
asciilifeform: ( phuctor is only exception i know of , but not general purpose )
mircea_popescu: does it python ?
asciilifeform: jurov's ? no idea, let's ask him
mircea_popescu: phuctor's.
asciilifeform: aa it - yes, old rfc2440 eater in py
asciilifeform: whole reason i ended up baking the www end in py
mircea_popescu: apparently php also has prewritten something. http://php.net/manual/en/function.gnupg-verify.php
asciilifeform: loox like callout to gpg
mircea_popescu: well, "pecl" w/e that is
asciilifeform: http://php.net/manual/en/function.gnupg-init.php << to gpg
asciilifeform: unsurprisingly
mircea_popescu: pecl = "php extensions", basically looks like some sort of fancy callout system. and yes, here to gpgme
mircea_popescu: though honestly, none of that's needed to check a sig.
asciilifeform: i dun know of a rcf2440 eater & rsatron in php, tho certainly could be made
asciilifeform: ( rather 'malbolge' exercise tho imho )
mircea_popescu: why ?
asciilifeform: cuz php, lol
mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm not sure why i'd want automated sig verification in this context.
asciilifeform: well, it dispenses with the pretense of 'www login state' which imho is a win.
mircea_popescu: hm
asciilifeform: i stole whole idea, when pushing jurov to do it, from mpex, lol
hanbot: mircea_popescu i'd be happy to try, though i doubt i could deliver in the rightnao sorta timeframe lack of ml suggests.
mircea_popescu is thinking about it, could have muchly simplified mpwp, whereby if i sign it it's an article, if you sign it it's a comment, you can even have a golden border
mircea_popescu: if no one signs it it's an anon comment... goes to modqueue...
asciilifeform: aha, that'd rock
mircea_popescu: take email out ALTOGETHER.
asciilifeform: i tried to write one of these
mircea_popescu: the problem is though... things like pics. wtf i'd do about those ?
asciilifeform: uuencod!111
mircea_popescu: and it guesses format ?
asciilifeform: png or gohome..
mircea_popescu: i use jpg all the time, for excellent reasons.
mircea_popescu: trilema would have to waste >10GB of disk if i switched to png
asciilifeform: then jpg or gohome
asciilifeform: but pick 1 and live with it, why not
mircea_popescu: yes but i use png SOMETIMES (neat coplors, like screen captures, jpg fucks up)
asciilifeform: hm
mircea_popescu: it is an open problem for me ;/
asciilifeform: they have header, so why is this even megaproblem
mircea_popescu: im not sure it's megaproblem yet.
asciilifeform: parse header and pass to correct eater.
mircea_popescu: i'm also not sure if i want to make you use signer every time you leave a ocmment.
asciilifeform: this is where i left it
mircea_popescu: the "secret string" of email seems sufficient./
asciilifeform: i like the idea of eternal 0effort spam genocide tho.
mircea_popescu: mpwp dun have much problem with spam anyways.
mircea_popescu: the "no web login" was interesting, but hm.
asciilifeform: it only has no prob because current crop of spammers dumb as rock.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it.
asciilifeform: large pool of bots could still fill mod queue with megatonne of liquishit.
mircea_popescu: nope. experimentally verified, over decade+ of functioning, during which more "large pool of bots" than anyone's lived springs.
asciilifeform: having not yet read mpwp, i cannot say further
mircea_popescu: hanbot how many items did you have to call spam/ham since running it ?
mircea_popescu: looks like i clicked "spam" 11 times this month.
hanbot: ~500. ~2 yrs.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile current count is 126582 ; last month ended at 125355. so it accepted 154, auto-tagged 62, asked about 11 and rejected...
mircea_popescu: 62022
mircea_popescu: well... at LEAST 62k, there's some classes of rejects i can't count.
mircea_popescu: ah, figures further mucked up by a manually deleted mocky comment, i recall.
mircea_popescu: nothing's ever exact ;/
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i confess that i actually am fond of the ancient ml format. no stylesheets, no buttons, just 80col text. << i've grown pretty fond of it too.
mod6: we'll have to see what jurov says, but yeah, I think it's an isp related issue.
mod6: mircea_popescu's idea of a very stripped down wpmp might be pretty interesting with "signed aritcle" or "signed comment".
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/saudis-advertise-plan-to-physically-isolate-qatar-with-canal-and-nuclear-waste/ << Qntra - Saudis Advertise Plan To Physically Isolate Qatar With Canal And Nuclear Waste
mircea_popescu: anyone feel like going to qatar btw ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i wouldn't refuse iran
asciilifeform: ( genuine, imho, if dimwitted, enemy of the reich )
mircea_popescu: sooo... go ? ☟︎
jurov: asciilifeform: it was not automagical clever script, but that kako made available l1/l2 as .txt list. deedbot afaik does not have this, hence ml wot is no longer updated ☟︎
jurov: And yes, it's reverse cache problem. The move is in progress but this week i was mostly afk, will continue on it first thing today.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846495 << sadly i checked my postbox, still no invitation, lol ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 03:33 mircea_popescu: sooo... go ?
asciilifeform: jurov: makes sense, ty
mats: rip terry davis
jurov: Till I set up everything, static mirror of btc-dev mailing list will be here: ☟︎
jurov: (still copying atm)
asciilifeform: mats: nooooo... link??
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846496 << it's json neh ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 07:07 jurov: asciilifeform: it was not automagical clever script, but that kako made available l1/l2 as .txt list. deedbot afaik does not have this, hence ml wot is no longer updated
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 hour and 51 minutes ago: <Mocky> yes, I'd take one of your hoes no question
mircea_popescu: !!ratings deedbot
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/owXhN/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846498 << what... invitation ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 12:17 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846495 << sadly i checked my postbox, still no invitation, lol
mircea_popescu: is this how you date, also, check your fetlife profile now and again see if any subbies sent... INVITATIONS !?
mircea_popescu: iran is not doing, alf is doing.
asciilifeform: [ insert 'a: i have no megabux, can only live where there is guaranteed work' m:'fu, have better parents, eat nagant' thread here ]
mircea_popescu: "i can't go talk to girls until i get a good job and have a house and another girl whose place they'd take and children and i am dead and buried already"
BingoBoingo suspects Iran would be happy to have a alf in their cyberwank saltmines on a part time contract
mircea_popescu suspects nobody can ever find out whether yes or no till they WALK UP TO HER AND SAY HI
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they dun seem to have a pubkey, so difficult to ask'em
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder, you also didn't!
mircea_popescu: turned out very fucking easy to ask.
mircea_popescu: and yes, if you're too lazy to go yourself it's acceptable to send girl. and yes get better girls. and so on.
asciilifeform: pretty sure if you have usa passport, you gotta go by uboat
BingoBoingo: Miraflores 1467, 11500 Montevideo << Or take the Omníbus out to Carrasco
mircea_popescu: isn't it unfortunate, how circumstances always conspire against you.
asciilifeform: dun fughet to cackle, i hear throne rusts and caviar spoils if you neglect to , lol
mircea_popescu: i cackle inaudibly.
asciilifeform: nifty
BingoBoingo: And looks like Iran actually has fairly respectable wall around their compound
mircea_popescu: anyway ; orig q was re qatar.
mircea_popescu: go there, start corp with a local or two, get some "regional" contracts.
asciilifeform: so what's the nifty thing in qatar, i think i missed
mircea_popescu: all the usg cumrags are angry at them
asciilifeform: a
mircea_popescu: this is the sure sign of the man of valor, that all the dunces...
asciilifeform: could be temporary? or no
mircea_popescu: i thought so when it first started, but it's been ongoing for years now
mircea_popescu: like it or not, man has some responsibilities to rhodesia. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: how did it come about even
mircea_popescu: twas in qntra! "spat"
asciilifeform goes to reread
mircea_popescu: recall, usg had its millenial moron installed on throne of saud
mircea_popescu: dood did the hussein bahamas thing, got fucked in the ass came back home declared victory.
asciilifeform: aaah yes
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Qatar likes their old friends Turkey et al
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: it's basically advanced outpost for gyaurs who can't turkey or iran.
BingoBoingo: See no reason to change friends because of fashion, and this is affront to pantsuit
mircea_popescu: "if man builds gate, it is impolite to come in through window"
mircea_popescu: i suppose "gawr" bettrer english notation of orig tc. gâvur.
mircea_popescu: speaking of being politically correct, hey Mocky ! you ever visited the near/middle east ? do you allah ?
mats: asciilifeform: sorry, no reliable sources yet
mats: spoke too soon
mats: his facebook is a memorial page now, whatever thats worth
Mocky: came a breath away from visiting Kuwait in the drivers seat of a tank, but never actually arrived. No other even near misses.
mircea_popescu: can you arabic ?
Mocky: i don't allah. i pantomimed allahing in mosques in my youff when visiting family. no arabic either
mircea_popescu: how does going to qatar and trying to start a computer consultancy business in lieu of looking for job sound ?
Mocky: that sounds scary as fuck, lol
mircea_popescu: lol.\
mircea_popescu: well ?
Mocky: well what, that's how it sounds
mircea_popescu: if you do get anywhere with it, i'll squeeze this beedog here to go join you, so you have a sort of "mega engineer achievement unlocked" built in. and after that i guess i'll even chip in so you buy a prepubescent wife in the countryside.
mircea_popescu: but until then, we can be partners, i'll pay for the fare.
Mocky: lets see, never been, don't speak lang, never started a business, in what way could i actually be a good partner other than willing to go?
Mocky: not fishing for compliments, just don't see how beneficial
mircea_popescu: you look like one of them.
Mocky: ok, well yes
mircea_popescu: all these white boys, they stand out like sore thumbs.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-12-30#433194 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2013-12-30 07:37 mircea_popescu: so they send another spy, and... well... same deal. and then more and more. eventually they ask a defector, and the guy smikrs and says "perhaps you might try not sending black people ?"
mircea_popescu: you understand, new businesses fail at an amazing rate, perhaps only comparable to new pregnancies (btw, any of the "right of life" dorks ever stopped to consider 1% of so of all sperm+egg combos ever make it the first WEEK ?). the point's not success, at the onset, the point's a) no obvious failure causes and b) a determination to give it a fair run.
mircea_popescu: moreover, success/failure yes/no is not so much the point. pizarro bought the failed remains of the previous attempt, and so on.
Mocky: at least it's not china
mircea_popescu: aren't you lucky you don't look martian ?
Mocky: lol!
mircea_popescu: "but mp... how would i breathe there ?" "i dunno. hold it ?"
Mocky: fuck, i can't come up with a good reason not to
mircea_popescu: in fact, thinking about it, me and you might be the ONLY TO people present who've even ever been inside a mosque ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: only two* even
Mocky: on a side note, evidently my ex is a log reader now, got the question last month "are you in Uruguay?" now expecting to get question "you in qatar?"
mircea_popescu: haha
mircea_popescu: why doesn't she say hi ?
mircea_popescu: Mocky what's her name ?
Mocky rates chances of her figuring out irc as low
mircea_popescu: maybe the reason you two split up is you not giving her any credit.
Mocky: na, that wasn't one of my reasons
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846578 << nah, asciilifeform also been ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 15:53 mircea_popescu: in fact, thinking about it, me and you might be the ONLY TO people present who've even ever been inside a mosque
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm talking cairo sandalwood mosq, built before they invented america. not bs ersatz-by-Eszterhas new world bs.
asciilifeform not been to Troo oldworld type, no
mircea_popescu: ha!
mircea_popescu: but since we're doing asides, hey Mocky what do you say, is bitcoin mmorpg even a thing ? hm ? HM ?
Mocky: it is indeed a thing
Mocky: on serious consideration, my only obstacle is that I don't have with what to make my ongoing alimony payments. I'm not going to break that promise
mircea_popescu: how much do you pay ?
Mocky: 5 benjies per week
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: take her with you ? or is she stuck with small children ?
Mocky: not happening
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: Mocky 40-60!
Mocky: what does that mean?
Mocky: I think that i can pull together enough to get me thru January
mircea_popescu: Mocky im not going to hold against you that you gotta pay alimony, you're not going to hold against me that i'm getting a larger share of our partnership! you get 40% of the thing (but work as if you had gotten 50%!!!) and alimony, i get 60% and there you go.
Mocky: holy shit, an hour ago i was eating waffles and now i'm going to qatar ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Mocky: These turn arounds can happen rather quickly
asciilifeform: insh'allah
mircea_popescu: Mocky so what do you figure, leaving oct 7th ?
mircea_popescu: to quote 8.75% or so of all fetlife profiles of girls under 25, "do women seriously jump in a plane to come hang out with you???"
Mocky: oct 7 works
mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can't be done ? ☟︎
diana_coman: congrats on the new adventure Mocky !
Mocky: thx!
Mocky: 2-3 months sounds reasonable
mircea_popescu: well yes but which lol
mircea_popescu: 2 + 1 extensible ?
diana_coman: now I wonder if Mocky will keep eating waffles in Qatar
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: https://www.etltravel.com/al-rifai-cairo/al-rifai-mosque-cairo/ << earlier item, btw. quite worth a visit. ☟︎
Mocky: 2 months
mircea_popescu: though also al-hazar, and there's others. like 1k others or something.
mircea_popescu: Mocky do you have any fambly however remote in or about that could be re-connected ? a local will prove invaluable, and somehow i suspect the traditional "go to local uni, pick up young filly" isn't comfortable either for you or for the place.
Mocky: I don't know of any but I will find out for sure
mircea_popescu: alright. well, that'll be the first order of business, scout the place, register company, avoid the usual "we got ourselves a sucker" traps.
Mocky: diana_coman, no matter where you put "if Mocky will keep eating waffles" it gets inlined, since it always evaluates to true
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow you still want to do it, ima send you some dough you can buy ticket and things.
mircea_popescu: i'll expect reports!
Mocky: ok
mircea_popescu: if anyone wants to buy in the 10% btw, i'll consider a minority partner. (note however that you will be assessed whatever we end up spending. which won't be a fortune, at least by the looks of it so far, but also not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846193 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 16:23 trinque: than over w/e beer money on the shared hosting
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what exactly the partnership will do ? ( and... 10% of what )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect qatar is deeply starved of world class talent. what specifically will it do i don't know, but i expect something along the lines historical experience. what did the germans do in russia, the spanish in tenochtitlan, the british in india and so on.
mircea_popescu: audit the govt's computers, get the usg piezos out ? make websites that don't take FIVE SECONDS TO LOAD, like EVERY SINGLE "sales" website of EACH brick-and-mortar sex shop in chicago ?
mircea_popescu: sell lemonade, for all i care, as long as it turns a profit and he feels like doing it.
asciilifeform: aah general-purpose .
mircea_popescu: the direct cause is literally that i perceive i owe rhodesia something.
asciilifeform: i think i get it
mircea_popescu: Mocky ever had salep btw ?
Mocky: nope
mircea_popescu: ah, it's delicious!
mircea_popescu: ~ottoman lemonade, i'd guess. certainly the driver of the anglo habit.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, lulzy phuctor thread in phuctor castle today, http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2018-9-1#422638
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:04 kristof: Can anyone tell me about how many broken keys phuctor has found?
mircea_popescu: dude can't read stats page or ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi. evidently
asciilifeform: linked largely for http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2018-9-1#422652 lulgem
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:24 kristof: am I wrong to think that, you know, a responsible journalistic community would pick up on this, and the security community would henceforth start a widespread auditing effort of existing toolchains, right?
mircea_popescu: kristof http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/
asciilifeform: !!up kristof
deedbot: kristof voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: (for the naive log reader wondering "what's with all the rhodesia references", http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/#selection-193.0-193.108 )
asciilifeform: i can entirely see the 'pocket of sanity besieged by pantsuit t-cells' angle
asciilifeform: serbia moar recent example than rhodesia
kristof: 30 minutes, only? They give me a whole hour at the brothels.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: kristof: if you register with deedbot, can self-voice, i'll rate you
asciilifeform: !!help
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html
kristof: Some other time
kristof: I'm busy at the moment
mircea_popescu: !!down kristof
asciilifeform: somehow they all do this.
mircea_popescu: cuz their stupid mothers told them they're important and matter.
asciilifeform: illusion of fleadom (tm)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and as irony has it, i supported serbia, also (though entirely for "selfish" reasons, at least if you asked 90s me)
asciilifeform: selfish how ? great satan bombed mircea_popescu's castle there ?
mircea_popescu: ah, gasoline was worth serious dough.
asciilifeform: a
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846619 << impressive ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:12 mircea_popescu: https://www.etltravel.com/al-rifai-cairo/al-rifai-mosque-cairo/ << earlier item, btw. quite worth a visit.
asciilifeform: complete with that little platform for sultan
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : minigame was going to work both an infinite-items and an infinite-lands update ; they kinda need the new client protocol (mostly to do on-demand content delivery) ; which is waiting for... cuntoo! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: how you doin' trinque ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's the beta-cuntoo box working out , btw ?
asciilifeform: ( afaik the only missing piece in the beta, is the cuntooistic 'portage' )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, so far it worked good!
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo has taken delivery of the samsung disks, so the box can be expanded to full size when mircea_popescu & diana_coman give the signal
asciilifeform: ( possibly waiting for release-cuntoo ? )
mircea_popescu: well yes, i thought it wise.
BingoBoingo: Indeed drives are waiting in the bilge for instructions
asciilifeform: !!rate kristof 1 new blood, tentatively
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wOJdO/?raw=true
asciilifeform: !!v 3DD643733D3945047B5CE34B01A13A03DD711908181BBAD8168F49701CB5CE09
deedbot: asciilifeform rated kristof 1 << new blood, tentatively
kristof: Success.
asciilifeform: wilkommen, kristof
asciilifeform: kristof: tell us a bit about yourself ?
kristof: grazie
kristof: I'm not worth knowing. Just an inquisitive dilettante.
kristof: Actually, as I mentioned before, I've been a long time reader of your polemics.
asciilifeform: kristof: you will prolly want to read the logs, http://btcbase.org/log/ , chances are you will find something of interest.
kristof: I like logs, I might browse them.
asciilifeform: kristof: most n00bs read logs for a while before they find that they have something to say.
kristof: I don't intend to be chatty, but I might in the future. Hopefully that doesn't sound like squatting to you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like fella was a longtime lurker at my www.
kristof: The only reason I was in #asciilifeform today was that I finally read all the phuctor phun in its entirety (yes, I was being a bonehad and didn't read the stats, sorry MP), thought "wait, that happened?" and dropped by.
asciilifeform: kristof: you will find a large cache of 'wait, that happened' material in the #t logs.
kristof: Delightful.
asciilifeform: kristof: if your main news intake was yc or some other heathen pit, it will be quite new to you.
kristof: Oh, actually, while I have your attention, I thought I would mention that I did check out Urbit twice; the first was a few years ago back when they were still "ship", the second was maybe a year ago and that time I actually chatted a bit with those folks
asciilifeform: !#s urbit
a111: 280 results for "urbit", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=urbit
asciilifeform: ^ quite detailed discussion.
kristof: I won't even bother because I have no faith in those people at all.
mircea_popescu: where's your article about when you sold your starship or what was it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390
mircea_popescu: thjere we go.
asciilifeform: or, for the dedicated entomologist, full cycle : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=130 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1309 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1361 -> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390 .
kristof: The idea of a federated system of secure, persistent identity (where people are friendly until proven otherwise) is such a fantastic idea and they waste all of their time on a half baked walled garden.
mircea_popescu: kristof welcome to... 2014. http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
kristof: Gulp
mircea_popescu: and yes, it developed. today you could've witnessed a guy going to qatar of all places, on the basis of exactly that system of secure & persistent pseudonimity.
kristof: Neat. I'm reading your "Most Serene Republic" quasi-manifesto now.
mircea_popescu: there's plenty to read, you won't soon run out.
asciilifeform: re old posts, my http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352&cpage=1#comment-8427 prediction seems to have lived out.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in asciilifeform files : trump suspended joint exercises with south korea last month
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw, was announced to great pantsuit mooing
mircea_popescu: ah. i guess im slow.
mircea_popescu: anywya, the trump-kim pics are pretty epic.
mircea_popescu: us presidents make astonishing gimp bitches, don't they!
asciilifeform: in other noose, i have what appears to be a cured c101pa.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu phf ^ et al
BingoBoingo: Oh my!
mircea_popescu: o hey!
mircea_popescu: what did it ?
asciilifeform: vendor backdoor in fw 3.9
asciilifeform: it still needs some massage, for cure to persist across powercycle
asciilifeform: and i'ma need a payload...
mircea_popescu: cuntoo ? :D
mod6: cool asciilifeform
asciilifeform: i mean, replacement payload for the fritz
mircea_popescu is looking forward to buying some of these lappies then!
asciilifeform: to properly perma-neuter
asciilifeform: but theoretically i have 'testlab mode' going
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform conceivably just use key of buyer ?
asciilifeform: conceivably
mircea_popescu: if "just wipe it" dun werk
asciilifeform: i gotta actually see that it writes 'mis-signed' fw, next
mircea_popescu: what a day.
asciilifeform bbl
BingoBoingo: And there's still no confirmation on whether Terry Davis lives or dies
lobbes: question for the V experts out there: I was test pressing a vpatch genesis I created and ran into an odd barf ('Pressed file hash did not match expected!') >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5d1u/?raw=true
lobbes: odd thing is, everything seems to have pressed fine. And when I manually run sha512sum on the problem file the hash matches what V was expecting >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SnHoK/?raw=true
lobbes: Is there something I'm missing? I pressed using mod6's V and created the vpatch using the "classic" vdiff described in http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system