assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052258 = 1.2255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20673 @ 0.00052272 = 10.8062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00052348 = 9.4488 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5382 @ 0.00052419 = 2.8212 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21772 @ 0.00052419 = 11.4127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1346 @ 0.00052419 = 0.7056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00052422 = 2.5949 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 654 @ 0.00052509 = 0.3434 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.48002, Best ask: 12.48003, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.48002, 24 hour volume: 16081.47869182, 24 hour low: 12.46000, 24 hour high: 12.68778, 24 hour vwap: 12.57870
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051986 = 1.2191 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1075 @ 0.00051962 = 0.5586 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00051406 = 4.1536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9379 @ 0.00051492 = 4.8294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00051517 = 5.332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2980 @ 0.00052509 = 1.5648 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: usagi is now known as Guest99975 > Guest99975 is now known as tsukino. Opps!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051858 = 1.2161 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.0005186 = 9.9053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8009 @ 0.00052509 = 4.2054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052304 = 1.2265 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13059 @ 0.00052275 = 6.8266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4704 @ 0.00052275 = 2.459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4452 @ 0.00051641 = 2.2991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052498 = 1.2311 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183 @ 0.00052509 = 0.0961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3220 @ 0.00052533 = 1.6916 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00051972 = 2.4947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051495 = 1.2076 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8823 @ 0.00051491 = 4.5431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5182 @ 0.00051406 = 2.6639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052531 = 1.2319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22530 @ 0.00052533 = 11.8357 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1875 @ 0.0005254 = 0.9851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1839 @ 0.00330905 = 6.0853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 911 @ 0.00334688 = 3.049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.0005254 = 9.4572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052021 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005202 = 1.2199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3219 @ 0.00052001 = 1.6739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33374 @ 0.00051997 = 17.3535 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052 = 2.2469 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1126 @ 0.00051997 = 0.5855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7551 @ 0.00051406 = 3.8817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15199 @ 0.00051286 = 7.795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051962 = 2.2453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00051976 = 2.328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051293 = 2.2164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1079 @ 0.00051286 = 0.5534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051962 = 2.2453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12024 @ 0.00051976 = 6.2496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 705 @ 0.0005254 = 0.3704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051306 = 2.2169 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 792 @ 0.00051286 = 0.4062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16083 @ 0.00051146 = 8.2258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8604 @ 0.00051101 = 4.3967 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8996 @ 0.00051101 = 4.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12104 @ 0.00051048 = 6.1788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00051048 = 7.7848 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052534 = 2.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6270 @ 0.0005254 = 3.2943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9961 @ 0.00052543 = 5.2338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052522 = 2.2695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.00052543 = 0.362 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00052544 = 6.9095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13353 @ 0.00052601 = 7.0238 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437 @ 0.00052627 = 0.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051051 = 2.2059 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17039 @ 0.00051048 = 8.6981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051058 = 2.2062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22957 @ 0.00051048 = 11.7191 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3728 @ 0.00050992 = 1.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050995 = 2.2035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18181 @ 0.00050992 = 9.2709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6898 @ 0.00050989 = 3.5172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00052607 = 0.6839 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3752 @ 0.00050989 = 1.9131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22582 @ 0.00050985 = 11.5134 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00051777 = 5.0741 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00051404 = 6.0657 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10325 @ 0.00050985 = 5.2642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.0005098 = 18.3273 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17025 @ 0.00050978 = 8.679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00051278 = 7.6917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051698 = 2.2339 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4329 @ 0.00051727 = 2.2393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00334688 = 7.8652 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051634 = 2.2311 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00051605 = 8.6438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2225 @ 0.00050978 = 1.1343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00050975 = 5.5053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5985 @ 0.00050973 = 3.0507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00050956 = 7.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00050952 = 10.3433 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15590 @ 0.00050935 = 7.9408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00051435 = 2.1238 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.00051695 = 0.8897 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11871 @ 0.00051727 = 6.1405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052609 = 2.2732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9979 @ 0.00052627 = 5.2516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052406 = 2.2645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20927 @ 0.00052404 = 10.9666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052606 = 2.2731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12593 @ 0.00052627 = 6.6273 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: did someone say bitcoin linux mmorpg?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I should make some sort of bitcoin powered game
Diablo-D3: and only a tiny subset of them penis shaped.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: so what Ill have to do is
Diablo-D3: that language of mine that focuses on large scale data processing
Diablo-D3: it was written by someone who didnt know how to wring every last bit of performance from java
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052616 = 2.2735 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13883 @ 0.00052627 = 7.3062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3396 @ 0.00052643 = 1.7878 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: arguably, even if it was written by me, it may still be a fucking pig
Diablo-D3: now, lets say he wrote it with seaking
Diablo-D3: or really, lets say I wrote it with seaking because notch is a fucktard when it comes to coding
Diablo-D3: it would scale across as many machines as you could feed it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 439 @ 0.00334688 = 1.4693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 461 @ 0.00337971 = 1.558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052405 = 2.2644 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 507 @ 0.00052404 = 0.2657 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: you know those extra sexy top500 things they keep doing like porno photo spreads of?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052435 = 2.2657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39316 @ 0.00052404 = 20.6032 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00051975 = 1.1065 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: seaking would eat those for breakfast and have room for more
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1439 @ 0.00337971 = 4.8634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 949 @ 0.00339999 = 3.2266 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12065 @ 0.00051822 = 6.2523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 619 @ 0.00051822 = 0.3208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00339999 = 7.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
jurov: Diablo-D3, there's some theory around that full bitcoin client itself will need to be parallelized to be able to keep with tx volume
Diablo-D3: not the way that I was discussing above
Diablo-D3: you could pretty much do what I already do with diablominer
Diablo-D3: infact, gpus would be massive overkill
pigeons: diablominer is the new python
Diablo-D3: lets say you had the tx volume of the entire planet
Diablo-D3: thats what we do in a year in an hour.
Diablo-D3: a 7970 would be overkill for the math part.
Diablo-D3: you could process and verify the entire day's chain in a few minutes if you parallelized it as much as possible on a 7970
jurov: yes? then someone should do that... the initial blockchain sync is painful and it's supposedly cpu bound
Diablo-D3: because bdb is fucking retarded and not meant to handle 2gb of data
Diablo-D3: thats already been fixed, it just hasnt shipped yet
Diablo-D3: 0.8 will ship with leveldb (google's kv store thats basically as fast as kyoto cabinet)
Diablo-D3: (seriously, kv stores just arent getting any faster)
Diablo-D3: if you have unlimited network and disk IO
Diablo-D3: 0.8 will sync the chain in like 3 hours
jurov: oh okay, i mixed it up...
Diablo-D3: I think sipa or gmaxwell said they can load an already existing dbd chain into leveldb in 15 minutes
Diablo-D3: where disk io is no longer a problem because bdb is fucktarded
Diablo-D3: but, as I said, we simply dont generate enough tx to matter
Diablo-D3: unless you have bitcoind on a rpi or something stupid like that, its not an issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052631 = 2.2742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27304 @ 0.00052643 = 14.3736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 775 @ 0.00052652 = 0.4081 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: now, if you do, you're still somewhat fucked
Diablo-D3: theres no opencl for the gpu that rpis have
jurov: i'm actually thinking to procure some lean server for that purpose, already ruled rpi out cause of tight memory
kakobrekla: man, an engineer would do a better pr job than josh does
Diablo-D3: I wouldnt use rpi now because I use p2pool
jurov: next on list is via nano, with their sha256 instruction support
jurov: but maybe ecdsa is bigger problem...
Diablo-D3: doing it on the x86 core itself you get more than that.
jurov: you say atom then?
jurov: i'm a bit confused bitcoind has opencl support... or the fusion has such a good x86 computation power?
Diablo-D3: bitcoind in the future will have opencl support
Diablo-D3: previous gen fusions use dual channel ddr3-1333, new ones I think are 1600 or 1866
Diablo-D3: and its not like they use a lot of power
Diablo-D3: and with two ddr3 slots, you can throw 8gb of memory in
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052341 = 2.2617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10039 @ 0.00052323 = 5.2527 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: that means caching the entire chain and having another 6gb free.
Diablo-D3: it just gets expensive putting that much in
Diablo-D3: although the next box Im building Im putting 32 in, so heh
Diablo-D3: jurov: basically, bitcoind will have what it needs by the time we need it
Diablo-D3: so if it comes to the point we need to parallel verify incoming tx on gpus, we will
Diablo-D3: that'll be the day where every tx in the world is done using bitcoin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052644 = 2.2747 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11479 @ 0.00052652 = 6.0439 BTC [+]
jurov: okay. just that i was talking with someone who did a thesis on that
jurov: and he was convinced that network speed will be the first bottleneck
jurov: have to wait till he finishes it to see the exact reasoning
jurov: so from there i derived maybe it will be necessary to loadbalance the processing, like high intensity HTTP is done now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052649 = 2.275 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12421 @ 0.00052652 = 6.5399 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14208 @ 0.00052732 = 7.4922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.51669697 = 516.697 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.59668103 = 596.681 BTC [-]
jurov: ^^^ should have bought some bonds.. but dunno what happens to btcusd now
mircea_popescu: grace period is 48 hours, you still got a little time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142 @ 0.00052732 = 0.0749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13175 @ 0.00052733 = 6.9476 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: 22:47.41 ( Diablo-D3 ) bitcoind in the future will have opencl support
kakobrekla: 22:57.34 ( jurov ) ^^^ should have bought some bonds.. but dunno what happens to btcusd now
kakobrekla: 22:58.56 ( mircea_popescu ) grace period is 48 hours, you still got a little time.
jurov: yes, seeing as thousands of opts are being sold again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18175 @ 0.00052733 = 9.5842 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9125 @ 0.00052769 = 4.8152 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: >>I'd have said the stupid days of Bitcoin are behind us. Sorta like how the Van Buren crisis brought an end to the stupid days of America.
jcpham: i'm pretend to be stupid in case anyone misses it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16068 @ 0.00052769 = 8.4789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2882 @ 0.00052792 = 1.5215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052431 = 2.2655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15185 @ 0.00052423 = 7.9604 BTC [-]
dub: we need a web of trolls
dub: the troll density in this community is drowning it in retardation
dub: integrating a troll wot into forums or an greasemonkey script would save us a shitload of time filtering these fucktards our selves
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005255 = 2.2707 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00052549 = 3.0368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2621 @ 0.00052549 = 1.3773 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12043 @ 0.00052516 = 6.3245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3004 @ 0.00052516 = 1.5776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1215 @ 0.00052423 = 0.6369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 298 @ 0.00052323 = 0.1559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1607 @ 0.00052312 = 0.8407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00052222 = 3.2117 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2226 @ 0.00052196 = 1.1619 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00052196 = 11.5875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3174 @ 0.00052196 = 1.6567 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3910 @ 0.00051972 = 2.0321 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29750 @ 0.00051972 = 15.4617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9121 @ 0.00051972 = 4.7404 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00051772 = 2.1636 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12921 @ 0.00051772 = 6.6895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00051496 = 1.0191 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052775 = 2.2804 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.00052792 = 5.7168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052778 = 2.2805 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10709 @ 0.00052792 = 5.6535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.000528 = 2.4816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052804 = 1.5841 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2076 @ 0.00052838 = 1.0969 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052273 = 2.2587 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6196 @ 0.00052238 = 3.2367 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052416 = 2.2649 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00052391 = 0.932 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 766 @ 0.00052812 = 0.4045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3555 @ 0.00052812 = 1.8775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14024 @ 0.00052838 = 7.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13221 @ 0.0005287 = 6.9899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005285 = 2.2836 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.0005287 = 2.368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052729 = 2.2784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9079 @ 0.00052716 = 4.7861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052722 = 2.2781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6871 @ 0.00052716 = 3.6221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5908 @ 0.00052391 = 3.0953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052407 = 2.2645 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23379 @ 0.00052391 = 12.2485 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6461 @ 0.00052391 = 3.385 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052488 = 1.9421 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052849 = 2.2836 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7220 @ 0.0005287 = 3.8172 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14959 @ 0.00052896 = 7.9127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052409 = 2.2646 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12773 @ 0.00052391 = 6.6919 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00052345 = 2.2016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3368 @ 0.00052345 = 1.763 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5100 @ 0.0033937 = 17.3079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00339999 = 4.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4176 @ 0.00052345 = 2.1859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11254 @ 0.00052238 = 5.8789 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14120 @ 0.00052006 = 7.3432 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5630 @ 0.00052006 = 2.9279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13470 @ 0.00051829 = 6.9814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00051829 = 9.6143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00051964 = 6.8592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.0005195 = 12.1823 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.0005195 = 2.9352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2680 @ 0.00051829 = 1.389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24320 @ 0.00051703 = 12.5742 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23580 @ 0.00051703 = 12.1916 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4720 @ 0.00051674 = 2.439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 220 @ 0.00051964 = 0.1143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00051988 = 12.1912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22830 @ 0.0005202 = 11.8762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00334398 = 8.6943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00334106 = 7.3503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3070 @ 0.0005202 = 1.597 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2315 @ 0.00052099 = 1.2061 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18435 @ 0.00052099 = 9.6045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20143 @ 0.00052517 = 10.5785 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5472 @ 0.00052881 = 2.8936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00051674 = 1.7311 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00051674 = 2.5641 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00052081 = 3.0467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14344 @ 0.00051674 = 7.4121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2339 @ 0.00051674 = 1.2087 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23427 @ 0.00052081 = 12.201 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27870 @ 0.00052081 = 14.515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1603 @ 0.00052081 = 0.8349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00052873 = 4.6264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2928 @ 0.00052881 = 1.5484 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6291 @ 0.00052896 = 3.3277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11728 @ 0.000529 = 6.2041 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052871 = 2.2846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10172 @ 0.000529 = 5.381 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14557 @ 0.00052923 = 7.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052896 = 2.2856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12243 @ 0.00052923 = 6.4794 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17788 @ 0.00052945 = 9.4179 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052933 = 2.2872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00052945 = 3.2185 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052731 = 2.2785 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.000527 = 8.2739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00052654 = 9.9516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00052692 = 0.4742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005168 = 2.2331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1835 @ 0.00051674 = 0.9482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15286 @ 0.00051579 = 7.8844 BTC [-]
dub: wow noagendamarket actually stabbed a bunch of people, killing one of them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.003344 = 4.6816 BTC [+]
dub: it was 20 years ago and he got a couple years jail
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005159 = 2.2292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42029 @ 0.00051579 = 21.6781 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.003344 = 6.1864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10639 @ 0.00051673 = 5.4975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11035 @ 0.00051579 = 5.6917 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 626 @ 0.00051528 = 0.3226 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051949 = 2.2447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00051978 = 3.6535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051949 = 2.2447 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00051978 = 3.6535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051946 = 2.2446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00051978 = 2.7959 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051543 = 2.2272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00051528 = 4.0599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051558 = 2.2278 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9579 @ 0.00051528 = 4.9359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00051971 = 1.9489 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1866 @ 0.00051528 = 0.9615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00051508 = 3.5541 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9571 @ 0.00051503 = 4.9294 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.0005147 = 4.7352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00051379 = 9.4794 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14905 @ 0.00051281 = 7.6434 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 571 @ 0.00051971 = 0.2968 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1992 @ 0.00051978 = 1.0354 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3637 @ 0.00052033 = 1.8924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39 @ 0.00051281 = 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00051252 = 3.2033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00051109 = 0.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00051064 = 6.3064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 232 @ 0.00050935 = 0.1182 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8642 @ 0.0005093 = 4.4014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00051638 = 5.0605 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052666 = 2.2757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 670 @ 0.00052692 = 0.353 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9309 @ 0.00052692 = 4.9051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21541 @ 0.0005271 = 11.3543 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052933 = 2.2872 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116 @ 0.00052945 = 0.0614 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12213 @ 0.00052946 = 6.4663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9523 @ 0.0005278 = 5.0262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050945 = 2.2013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1822 @ 0.0005093 = 0.9279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00050923 = 13.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1757 @ 0.00050923 = 0.8947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051104 = 2.2082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17179 @ 0.0005112 = 8.7819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050935 = 2.2009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21629 @ 0.00050923 = 11.0141 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051085 = 2.2074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11023 @ 0.0005112 = 5.635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.0005112 = 9.3294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005095 = 2.2015 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6760 @ 0.00050923 = 3.4424 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051101 = 2.2081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.0005112 = 0.4729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8368 @ 0.00051172 = 4.2821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00051172 = 4.5799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050939 = 2.2011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4749 @ 0.00050923 = 2.4183 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6130 @ 0.00050919 = 3.1213 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051156 = 2.2105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19579 @ 0.00051172 = 10.019 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050923 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7420 @ 0.00050919 = 3.7782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1227 @ 0.00050909 = 0.6247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050924 = 2.2004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00050909 = 1.6663 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12616 @ 0.00050908 = 6.4226 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10290 @ 0.00050899 = 5.2375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051088 = 2.2075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4320 @ 0.00051069 = 2.2062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3409 @ 0.00051065 = 1.7408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00051436 = 1.7745 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005108 = 2.2072 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12029 @ 0.00051065 = 6.1426 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0033063 = 3.3063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17676 @ 0.00051065 = 9.0262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1424 @ 0.00050945 = 0.7255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00050945 = 12.0994 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 871 @ 0.00051436 = 0.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22646 @ 0.0005145 = 11.6514 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4001 @ 0.00051706 = 2.0688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050976 = 2.2027 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13026 @ 0.00050945 = 6.6361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00328545 = 3.2855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9384 @ 0.00050733 = 4.7608 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3535 @ 0.00050761 = 1.7944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00050761 = 8.7309 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00050761 = 2.2665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00050911 = 0.5778 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15318 @ 0.00050911 = 7.7985 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14049 @ 0.00051706 = 7.2642 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11633 @ 0.00051824 = 6.0287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005135 = 2.2188 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3224 @ 0.00051371 = 1.6562 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051368 = 2.2196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12426 @ 0.00051371 = 6.3834 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7353 @ 0.00051456 = 3.7836 BTC [+]
gribble: You are now authenticated for user ColdHardMetal with key 0468F54ABEACA9BD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051255 = 2.2147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00051227 = 2.3457 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00051252 = 11.0192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00051456 = 0.1286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051255 = 2.2147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20179 @ 0.00051227 = 10.3371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00051265 = 6.7157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25933 @ 0.00051456 = 13.3441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051425 = 2.2221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17379 @ 0.00051456 = 8.9425 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051426 = 2.2221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13985 @ 0.00051456 = 7.1961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5403 @ 0.00051562 = 2.7859 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051239 = 2.214 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10953 @ 0.00051227 = 5.6109 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051094 = 2.2078 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12497 @ 0.00051087 = 6.3843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5332 @ 0.00050733 = 2.7051 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13739 @ 0.00050733 = 6.9702 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9281 @ 0.00050729 = 4.7082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7480 @ 0.00050697 = 3.7921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15470 @ 0.00050697 = 7.8428 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9045 @ 0.00050696 = 4.5855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.0005118 = 2.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051543 = 2.2272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5315 @ 0.00051562 = 2.7405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050712 = 2.1913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1805 @ 0.00050696 = 0.9151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11898 @ 0.00050685 = 6.0305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 550 @ 0.0033063 = 1.8185 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4352 @ 0.00050685 = 2.2058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13711 @ 0.00050679 = 6.9486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051549 = 2.2274 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11382 @ 0.00051562 = 5.8688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00051633 = 2.7092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051631 = 2.231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7729 @ 0.00051633 = 3.9907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050703 = 2.1909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8789 @ 0.00050679 = 4.4542 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0005067 = 9.4246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 590 @ 0.00050662 = 0.2989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050663 = 2.1891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7660 @ 0.00050662 = 3.8807 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10719 @ 0.00050658 = 5.43 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051599 = 2.2296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3029 @ 0.00051633 = 1.564 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2836 @ 0.00332656 = 9.4341 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051602 = 2.2297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7879 @ 0.00051633 = 4.0682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051618 = 2.2304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 616 @ 0.00051633 = 0.3181 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00051697 = 5.635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2163 @ 0.0005173 = 1.1189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051145 = 2.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00051118 = 15.2843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2679 @ 0.00051008 = 1.3665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5550 @ 0.00331 = 18.3705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051034 = 2.2052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5829 @ 0.00051008 = 2.9733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051012 = 2.2042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13819 @ 0.00051008 = 7.0488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00051028 = 6.0213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2973 @ 0.00051008 = 1.5165 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1876 @ 0.0005089 = 0.9547 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1124 @ 0.00051606 = 0.5801 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00051057 = 4.6717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 42900 @ 0.00331 = 141.999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1386 @ 0.00328545 = 4.5536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00326791 = 7.5162 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 814 @ 0.0032648 = 2.6575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00051606 = 1.6498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00051638 = 6.7388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11370 @ 0.0005173 = 5.8817 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18133 @ 0.00051747 = 9.3833 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051058 = 2.2062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00051057 = 5.0546 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1710 @ 0.00050688 = 0.8668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051721 = 2.2349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7117 @ 0.00051747 = 3.6828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3212 @ 0.00051824 = 1.6646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051526 = 2.2264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16012 @ 0.00051545 = 8.2534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6117 @ 0.00051591 = 3.1558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00050801 = 4.7753 BTC [-]
dub: [14:57] <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1710 @ 0.00050688 = 0.8668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050832 = 2.1965 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.00050821 = 4.4108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050844 = 2.197 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17721 @ 0.00050821 = 9.006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00050801 = 0.4572 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21491 @ 0.00050688 = 10.8934 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7853 @ 0.00050679 = 3.9798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8047 @ 0.00050679 = 4.0781 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7618 @ 0.00050658 = 3.8591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00050742 = 6.0129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14326 @ 0.00050658 = 7.2573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7774 @ 0.00050654 = 3.9378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4526 @ 0.00050654 = 2.2926 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00050647 = 3.1908 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00050643 = 6.1278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.0005064 = 7.6466 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13874 @ 0.00050635 = 7.0251 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4268 @ 0.00050742 = 2.1657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051562 = 2.228 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10483 @ 0.00051591 = 5.4083 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5996 @ 0.00051596 = 3.0937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005086 = 2.1977 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11142 @ 0.00050858 = 5.6666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13498 @ 0.00050635 = 6.8347 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13889 @ 0.00050632 = 7.0323 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00050632 = 2.5822 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8311 @ 0.00050632 = 4.208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9989 @ 0.00050631 = 5.0575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6043 @ 0.00050631 = 3.0596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29257 @ 0.00050624 = 14.8111 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14619 @ 0.00050781 = 7.4237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0005116 = 3.7347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8781 @ 0.00051596 = 4.5306 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051561 = 2.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00051596 = 1.6402 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3550 @ 0.00326701 = 11.5979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00051589 = 1.5477 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050665 = 2.1892 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00050632 = 7.5948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6693 @ 0.00050624 = 3.3883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37186 @ 0.00050622 = 18.8243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00051018 = 8.571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00051018 = 8.7751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2514 @ 0.00050622 = 1.2726 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14186 @ 0.00050619 = 7.1808 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00051384 = 8.5811 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.00051384 = 3.0681 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25314 @ 0.00050619 = 12.8137 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.00050618 = 1.2077 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051067 = 2.2066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00051067 = 1.4958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6583 @ 0.00050899 = 3.3507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24567 @ 0.00050899 = 12.5044 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38133 @ 0.00051091 = 19.4825 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4984 @ 0.00051091 = 2.5464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00051577 = 1.9599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5830 @ 0.00051132 = 2.981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1720 @ 0.00050736 = 0.8727 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00051243 = 8.6344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00051049 = 7.4532 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3530 @ 0.00051596 = 1.8213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9664 @ 0.00051605 = 4.9871 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4269 @ 0.00326536 = 13.9398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2601 @ 0.00050734 = 1.3196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5099 @ 0.00050706 = 2.5855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051597 = 2.2295 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17961 @ 0.00051605 = 9.2688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13175 @ 0.00051605 = 6.799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.0005174 = 8.8217 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.0005174 = 2.4318 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14875 @ 0.00051732 = 7.6951 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00051332 = 2.8746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16475 @ 0.00051332 = 8.4569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16625 @ 0.0005174 = 8.6018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.0005174 = 1.7674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11584 @ 0.00051754 = 5.9952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1569 @ 0.00332656 = 5.2194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1054 @ 0.00332977 = 3.5096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14416 @ 0.00051754 = 7.4609 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1377 @ 0.00051824 = 0.7136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00051857 = 13.5865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4171 @ 0.000519 = 2.1647 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2300 @ 0.00332977 = 7.6585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051548 = 2.2274 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00051536 = 8.555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.00050706 = 4.057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1328 @ 0.00050654 = 0.6727 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051869 = 2.2413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10299 @ 0.000519 = 5.3452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7180 @ 0.000519 = 3.7264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14420 @ 0.00051915 = 7.4861 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050656 = 2.1888 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00050654 = 2.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051067 = 2.2066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44679 @ 0.0005108 = 22.822 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050689 = 2.1903 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22179 @ 0.00050654 = 11.2346 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00050654 = 13.5753 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10636 @ 0.00050654 = 5.3876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051077 = 2.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6871 @ 0.0005108 = 3.5097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7930 @ 0.00051915 = 4.1169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7167 @ 0.00051951 = 3.7233 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14076 @ 0.00051959 = 7.3137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00051959 = 3.2215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00051959 = 4.8582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00051959 = 1.6107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050681 = 2.1899 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00050666 = 8.7652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15773 @ 0.00050654 = 7.9897 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00050618 = 3.5969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050618 = 1.5185 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21163 @ 0.00050618 = 10.7123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10708 @ 0.00050618 = 5.4202 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14561 @ 0.00050606 = 7.3687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11627 @ 0.00050606 = 5.884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12573 @ 0.00050602 = 6.3622 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 655 @ 0.00050602 = 0.3314 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00050601 = 9.6395 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9995 @ 0.00050599 = 5.0574 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050893 = 2.1991 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13590 @ 0.00050899 = 6.9172 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00332977 = 6.9925 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050619 = 2.1872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5155 @ 0.00050599 = 2.6084 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12624 @ 0.00050599 = 6.3876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050883 = 2.1987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00050899 = 0.3105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2869 @ 0.00050914 = 1.4607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12131 @ 0.00050914 = 6.1764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11669 @ 0.00050956 = 5.9461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1364 @ 0.00332977 = 4.5418 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17609 @ 0.00050956 = 8.9728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7291 @ 0.00051102 = 3.7258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050627 = 2.1876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1276 @ 0.00050599 = 0.6456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00050586 = 3.9204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16530 @ 0.00050579 = 8.3607 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10362 @ 0.00050579 = 5.241 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1988 @ 0.00050578 = 1.0055 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050678 = 2.1898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00050711 = 9.0773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20941 @ 0.0005148 = 10.7804 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3009 @ 0.00051102 = 1.5377 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050582 = 2.1856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5912 @ 0.00050578 = 2.9902 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00050578 = 10.7731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9367 @ 0.00050574 = 4.7373 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00050618 = 5.568 BTC [+]
Namjies: I see 7 since the last time I checked.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00051445 = 6.7393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00050574 = 0.927 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00050562 = 5.8146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12467 @ 0.00050555 = 6.3027 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050626 = 2.1875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7379 @ 0.00050656 = 3.7379 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050581 = 2.1856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4133 @ 0.00050555 = 2.0894 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00050554 = 2.8057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00050551 = 9.5794 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7546 @ 0.0005055 = 3.8145 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5354 @ 0.0005055 = 2.7064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00050547 = 8.3403 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3246 @ 0.00050532 = 1.6403 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5304 @ 0.00050532 = 2.6802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14795 @ 0.00050517 = 7.474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14506 @ 0.00050511 = 7.3271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050644 = 2.1883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10939 @ 0.00050656 = 5.5413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2240 @ 0.00050934 = 1.1409 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050526 = 2.1832 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2579 @ 0.00050511 = 1.3027 BTC [-]
Namjies: Ah, well there's good and bad months.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16915 @ 0.00050511 = 8.5439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00050503 = 3.5352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00050496 = 3.6357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00050489 = 0.5731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050489 = 3.509 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1731 @ 0.00326536 = 5.6523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 721 @ 0.0032648 = 2.3539 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.0032587 = 5.051 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 298 @ 0.00325525 = 0.9701 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4054 @ 0.0005056 = 2.0497 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26234 @ 0.0005056 = 13.2639 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00050576 = 0.531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050567 = 2.185 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00050576 = 0.5816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2360 @ 0.00050934 = 1.202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4069 @ 0.0005148 = 2.0947 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050506 = 2.1824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3529 @ 0.00050489 = 1.7818 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3750 @ 0.00325525 = 12.2072 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051476 = 2.2243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6090 @ 0.0005148 = 3.1351 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00051623 = 11.9249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00051623 = 2.4521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 652 @ 0.00051959 = 0.3388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8348 @ 0.00051962 = 4.3378 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5754 @ 0.00051962 = 2.9899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10782 @ 0.00051962 = 5.6025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.0005157 = 3.1458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0005157 = 9.7983 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0005153 = 2.7826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7380 @ 0.00051962 = 3.8348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00051981 = 3.7426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4220 @ 0.00051992 = 2.1941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3989 @ 0.0005153 = 2.0555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29911 @ 0.00050697 = 15.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00051992 = 3.6857 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6552 @ 0.00051992 = 3.4065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050508 = 2.1825 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4199 @ 0.00050489 = 2.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00050485 = 4.0792 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 552 @ 0.00325525 = 1.7969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2021 @ 0.00325123 = 6.5707 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00050485 = 3.7864 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14384 @ 0.00050485 = 7.2618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12004 @ 0.00050482 = 6.0599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051098 = 2.2079 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11979 @ 0.00051127 = 6.1245 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00332977 = 4.9947 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7771 @ 0.00051127 = 3.9731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00051249 = 7.2153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1434 @ 0.00051249 = 0.7349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14530 @ 0.00050896 = 7.3952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 736 @ 0.00050482 = 0.3715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050495 = 2.1819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1679 @ 0.00050482 = 0.8476 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050665 = 2.1892 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.00050692 = 1.7129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9272 @ 0.00050692 = 4.7002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20987 @ 0.00050703 = 10.641 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9638 @ 0.00051992 = 5.011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5412 @ 0.00052019 = 2.8153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5291 @ 0.00050856 = 2.6908 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19035 @ 0.00050843 = 9.678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13966 @ 0.00050843 = 7.1007 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1334 @ 0.00050535 = 0.6741 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10058 @ 0.0005148 = 5.1779 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20177 @ 0.00051592 = 10.4097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050548 = 2.1842 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10810 @ 0.00050535 = 5.4628 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00050482 = 4.3722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00050482 = 3.3571 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051588 = 2.2291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6123 @ 0.00051592 = 3.159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13328 @ 0.00051964 = 6.9258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00052019 = 5.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00052019 = 7.8549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00051964 = 1.2705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.0005134 = 5.1597 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5128 @ 0.00051245 = 2.6278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5525 @ 0.00051157 = 2.8264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10172 @ 0.00052019 = 5.2914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00052023 = 6.4769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78 @ 0.00052059 = 0.0406 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051159 = 2.2106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00051157 = 5.1924 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005205 = 2.2491 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18922 @ 0.00052059 = 9.8506 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2457 @ 0.00052066 = 1.2793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00052066 = 3.124 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00052041 = 6.6352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052041 = 2.3418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00052066 = 2.9417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051871 = 2.2413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00051851 = 6.1594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051851 = 5.8592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3521 @ 0.00051851 = 1.8257 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18879 @ 0.00051391 = 9.7021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00328158 = 1.6408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28821 @ 0.00051391 = 14.8114 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00051157 = 1.3214 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00050698 = 0.1232 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16710 @ 0.00051664 = 8.6331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4560 @ 0.00051655 = 2.3555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9175 @ 0.00051245 = 4.7017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21013 @ 0.00051245 = 10.7681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12387 @ 0.00050698 = 6.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16382 @ 0.00050698 = 8.3053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3336 @ 0.00050482 = 1.6841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11960 @ 0.00051827 = 6.1985 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00050688 = 6.9949 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00050482 = 1.3883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00050482 = 6.5627 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00051631 = 1.8587 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10440 @ 0.00051827 = 5.4107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00052065 = 8.9031 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5052 @ 0.00052066 = 2.6304 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00052074 = 7.9934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00051615 = 2.1678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051615 = 8.981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00051498 = 5.1498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00051498 = 10.9691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19054 @ 0.00051379 = 9.7898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1384 @ 0.00050482 = 0.6987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3863 @ 0.00050477 = 1.9499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20325 @ 0.00050477 = 10.2595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00050473 = 2.0442 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5225 @ 0.00050445 = 2.6358 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00051615 = 2.9679 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 842 @ 0.00051615 = 0.4346 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.0005165 = 6.8219 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00050975 = 12.8967 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00050445 = 0.908 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00050445 = 11.6276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00050443 = 0.0252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29173 @ 0.00050472 = 14.7242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5127 @ 0.00050967 = 2.6131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00050967 = 5.8612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00050443 = 5.6496 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00050441 = 4.918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00050437 = 2.6479 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00050431 = 0.6304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00050734 = 1.6235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16693 @ 0.00050559 = 8.4398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12552 @ 0.00050431 = 6.3301 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30848 @ 0.00050431 = 15.557 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050425 = 7.6142 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00050422 = 5.5464 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4052 @ 0.00050422 = 2.0431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050728 = 2.192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17829 @ 0.00050734 = 9.0454 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050427 = 2.179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16673 @ 0.00050422 = 8.4069 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1406 @ 0.0005042 = 0.7089 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050733 = 2.1922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.00050734 = 3.4352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11373 @ 0.00050967 = 5.7965 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12866 @ 0.00051209 = 6.5885 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7161 @ 0.00051505 = 3.6883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2639 @ 0.00050821 = 1.3412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21892 @ 0.0005165 = 11.3072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6058 @ 0.00051816 = 3.139 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10442 @ 0.00051816 = 5.4106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7940 @ 0.00051839 = 4.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00328158 = 6.5632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 679 @ 0.00325123 = 2.2076 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 794 @ 0.00325044 = 2.5808 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4268 @ 0.00051839 = 2.2125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00051132 = 6.8006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17832 @ 0.00050821 = 9.0624 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00051738 = 15.1592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051992 = 0.8839 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3189 @ 0.00051992 = 1.658 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22011 @ 0.00051992 = 11.444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00052064 = 9.6318 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11770 @ 0.00052074 = 6.1291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00052076 = 1.1977 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00052079 = 2.9945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3137 @ 0.00050821 = 1.5943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 280 @ 0.00332977 = 0.9323 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00050701 = 12.4217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.0005066 = 4.8887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14085 @ 0.00050727 = 7.1449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6693 @ 0.00051071 = 3.4182 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.0005104 = 9.2382 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8344 @ 0.00050986 = 4.2543 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050692 = 2.1904 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17929 @ 0.0005066 = 9.0828 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00050831 = 16.4692 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00050831 = 0.915 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3921 @ 0.0005066 = 1.9864 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10062 @ 0.0005042 = 5.0733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15504 @ 0.00050404 = 7.8146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6063 @ 0.00050402 = 3.0559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23337 @ 0.00050402 = 11.7623 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00050399 = 0.8885 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050973 = 2.2025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4856 @ 0.00050986 = 2.4759 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12593 @ 0.00051071 = 6.4314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050411 = 2.1783 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9337 @ 0.00050399 = 4.7058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7310 @ 0.00050396 = 3.6839 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 4 @ 0.24231123 = 0.9692 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00050513 = 9.547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00050513 = 0.5051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00050396 = 7.4082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3790 @ 0.00050396 = 1.91 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00050394 = 3.8551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14010 @ 0.00050388 = 7.0594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005104 = 2.2054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.00051071 = 1.2329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 756 @ 0.00325044 = 2.4573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2244 @ 0.00325008 = 7.2932 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00051754 = 8.3583 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00051754 = 3.0276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8710 @ 0.00052079 = 4.5361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140 @ 0.00052091 = 0.0729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00051191 = 7.2691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7698 @ 0.00051727 = 3.9819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3392 @ 0.00332977 = 11.2946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2752 @ 0.00051727 = 1.4235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148 @ 0.00051404 = 0.0761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7310 @ 0.00052091 = 3.8079 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29270 @ 0.00052095 = 15.2482 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00052102 = 4.6631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9422 @ 0.00052109 = 4.9097 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Up to two million people are to have their credit files secretly checked under a crackdown on tax evasion to be unveiled by George Osborne to help raise another £10 billion.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21678 @ 0.00052109 = 11.2962 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7880 @ 0.00052134 = 4.1082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00052134 = 5.7608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051741 = 9.0029 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005116 = 2.2106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10792 @ 0.00051146 = 5.5197 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1594 @ 0.00050456 = 0.8043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005099 = 2.2033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23226 @ 0.00050965 = 11.8371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3094 @ 0.00050456 = 1.5611 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050469 = 2.1808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17679 @ 0.00050456 = 8.9201 BTC [-]
jurov: morning will be soon
Namjies: For me, at night is past 2 am. So it's 11 am...
Namjies: My logic here might be flawed.
Namjies: Now who's selling that big stack of 100 000 BVPS?
mircea_popescu: someone bought all the shares and listed them higher price ?
Namjies: Oh... you're reselling it? Where the heck did you purchase the MP?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4898 @ 0.00051329 = 2.5141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051449 = 2.2231 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12931 @ 0.0005146 = 6.6543 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00051481 = 4.762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 611 @ 0.00339997 = 2.0774 BTC [+]
Namjies: I was not aware such thing were available at the flea market.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051217 = 2.2131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14829 @ 0.00051185 = 7.5902 BTC [-]
jurov: no it isn't a joke, they have a photo when that happened
jurov: it's on frontpage of polimedia.us
mircea_popescu: actually, that photo is me (taking it) having my shit (center) hauled over the mexico/guatemala border at an illegal crossing point
mircea_popescu: by some locals who carried it about 3 miles through the jungle uphill for 75 cents each
mircea_popescu: i happen to think it's a wonderful depiction of "we'll get shit done".
mircea_popescu: guy is wearing an authentic traditional sweated and a baseball cap, it's quite the piece.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3700 @ 0.00339377 = 12.5569 BTC [-]
jurov: hm, without this context it isn't so clear at all
mircea_popescu: that's also quite caracteristic. without the vast reams of context it's usually quite unclear wtf i'm on about.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051476 = 2.2243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1305 @ 0.00051481 = 0.6718 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00051489 = 2.214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00051721 = 7.1892 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2963 @ 0.00052095 = 1.5436 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6698 @ 0.00052339 = 3.5057 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00052034 = 5.3595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052307 = 1.4123 BTC [+]
dub: when you bash the funny bone one something it is really not very funny
dub: perhaps the least aptly named bone
mircea_popescu: what's with modern man's expectation of enjoyment in anything and everything!
mircea_popescu: it IS funny, it's just that funny doesn't mean what you think it does.
dub: it is not funny either way
dub: another fucking parking ticket
dub: what a cunt of a day, smashed unfunny bone, parking ticket, wrangling most retarded firewalls in universe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00051227 = 14.1899 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051736 = 0.8795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1621 @ 0.00051706 = 0.8382 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051713 = 2.2345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13004 @ 0.00051736 = 6.7277 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons : [Need] 100 BTC loan, I defaulted with others - Will pay 10.5 btc monthly minimum
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051227 = 2.2135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00051214 = 7.7589 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00051185 = 3.824 BTC [-]
jurov: another 10 points for forum and its staff.
mircea_popescu: I'm still giving him the time. He can still ends this clearly. Nefario must release the csv file to all the users.
jurov: be patient, the best ones are in the end
mircea_popescu: giga already ate a bucket of dry sand over the "cleanliness" of nefario's closing, what, is he going to repay his lawyer & make all the forum howlers happy ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00050594 = 6.5772 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7508 @ 0.00050841 = 3.8171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8558 @ 0.0005132 = 4.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1857 @ 0.00050524 = 0.9382 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: Taking your money without asking questions and now he is giving shareholders a hard time wtf
PsychoticBoy: I voted yes, theymos is investigating, hopefully soon the TAG will arive :D
PsychoticBoy: nef is the biggest oooh Pirateat40 is the biggest then nefario
mircea_popescu: i'd say it's more like pirate (~500k claims), hasking-kludge-harnett-etco (10k-100k range)
mircea_popescu: then peanuts people like the bitdaytrader dood, nefario, what have you
mircea_popescu: the original mybitcoin guy belongs either tied with pirate or in the 2nd echelon, depending how you count btc then
jurov: are you sending info to that new zealand liquidator?
jurov: oh nvm, that's bitcoinica
dub: whats a yabmc worth now though? 0.01?
mircea_popescu: PsychoticBoy im not so sure you can lump all the many defaults from ciuciu to who have you under nefario's name.
mircea_popescu: now, if you were to compare scammer groups, then for sure intersangro takes the cake.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051719 = 2.2348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9946 @ 0.00051736 = 5.1457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00052287 = 2.7974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10735 @ 0.00052339 = 5.6186 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jesus god, we managed to get in a word edgewise past assbot.
dub: you gave money to that crack head
PsychoticBoy: but heey, dont invest what you can not afford to LOSE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2464 @ 0.00050524 = 1.2449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28240 @ 0.00050519 = 14.2666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1260 @ 0.00051106 = 0.6439 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.62000, Best ask: 12.62001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.62000, 24 hour volume: 26756.72915671, 24 hour low: 12.47550, 24 hour high: 12.67901, 24 hour vwap: 12.56329
mircea_popescu: CoinPal allowed one to purchase Bitcoins with PayPal funds. PayPal payments can be reversed easily but Bitcoin payments are permanent. This asymmetry made CoinPal a constant target for PayPal fraud. After I experienced my first wave of fraud, from which I learned many lessons, CoinPal lost less than 0.9% of revenue to fraud losses.
mircea_popescu: Fraudulent buyers exhibit certain characteristics that distinguish them from legitimate customers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051071 = 2.2068 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00051098 = 2.8252 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050857 = 2.1975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5328 @ 0.00050844 = 2.709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050847 = 2.1971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00050844 = 5.2115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050725 = 1.1667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2021 @ 0.00050725 = 1.0252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14569 @ 0.00050706 = 7.3874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00050506 = 2.2778 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00050506 = 16.0357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050769 = 2.1937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15002 @ 0.00050794 = 7.6201 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.00051106 = 0.6025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00051498 = 3.5791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17602 @ 0.00051756 = 9.1101 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fucking asshole USA, created three hundred million useless fucks looking for "help"
mircea_popescu: eat shit and die already, what help ? just... keel over.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1640 @ 0.00052029 = 0.8533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18290 @ 0.00050506 = 9.2375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 570 @ 0.00050456 = 0.2876 BTC [-]
Namjies: Don't be mean to those in need who can but don't do anything.
Namjies: We'll need them when space invaders arrive and demand human snacks.
Namjies: Stop putting /dtng/ links in here.
dub: or your could ignore -regex dtng islt
dub: who for a time ran a Paypal hm, best quote?
dub: who ran for a time, a paypal.. hmm, lets just quote
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00052073 = 8.9566 BTC [+]
dub: its an ugly segway any way you cut it
dub: its funny how stupid assumptions make it into your personal lexicon well mine quite ofter
Graet: maybe we should get together mircea_popescu - I'm having difficulty starting sentences
dub: I thought people were using segway as a transition vehicle in the sense of the silly two wheel ride on thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00052073 = 5.3114 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051768 = 2.2369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16279 @ 0.00051801 = 8.4327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051777 = 2.2373 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2913 @ 0.00051801 = 1.509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052129 = 2.9192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00052138 = 0.3123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051932 = 9.0362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9966 @ 0.00051932 = 5.1755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050535 = 2.1836 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00050501 = 6.1359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10063 @ 0.00050456 = 5.0774 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9404 @ 0.00050431 = 4.7425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005169 = 2.2335 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20173 @ 0.00051677 = 10.4248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051839 = 2.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7034 @ 0.00051844 = 3.6467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11568 @ 0.00052138 = 6.0313 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052113 = 2.2518 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13112 @ 0.00052138 = 6.8363 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00052147 = 5.1626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17 @ 0.00052339 = 0.0089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051686 = 2.2334 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2532 @ 0.00051677 = 1.3085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00050536 = 3.7902 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.00050431 = 3.4273 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 593 @ 0.00050373 = 0.2987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3608 @ 0.00050368 = 1.8173 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 10000000 @ 0.00004016 = 401.57162915 BTC
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00323801 / 0.00332259 / 0.00339997 (69900 shares, 232.25 BTC), 30day: 0.00180025 / 0.00331194 / 0.0034 (1003161 shares, 3,322.41 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051592 = 2.2293 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6110 @ 0.00051576 = 3.1513 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 210825 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 854 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3617413.84316241 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.19074174604
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1701 @ 0.00339997 = 5.7833 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052132 = 2.2526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19429 @ 0.00052163 = 10.1347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051578 = 2.2287 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12539 @ 0.00051576 = 6.4671 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052145 = 1.9294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051599 = 2.2296 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12187 @ 0.00051576 = 6.2856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00051127 = 3.9879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00051127 = 12.8329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051939 = 2.2443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21778 @ 0.00051964 = 11.3167 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051142 = 2.2098 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051127 = 0.8692 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7479 @ 0.00050636 = 3.7871 BTC [-]
Namjies: mircea_popescu, about your post and results for DigitalPoint
Namjies: Implementing an affiliate program and getting good bitcoin services to have the ad on their website would be the only way to get good leads, probably.
Namjies: Or anything of the sort that gets an ad to MPEx where the good audience can see it.
mircea_popescu: there is need of a good advertising system for bitcoin,
Namjies: The issue is if it's CPC/CPM, you have to trust the publisher and general audience of a website.
Namjies: With CPA, the publisher has to trust the advertiser that he will credit all conversions.
mircea_popescu: chief among which that no serious publisher would entertain it.
Namjies: Actually many advertise with such methods.
Namjies: But yes, it might not pay as much.
Namjies: Everyone would like to get a high CPM.
Namjies: But it's just not realistic to expect advertisers to hand out cash like that all the time to every publishers when there's no results.
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't make sense. the business of the publisher is publishing
mircea_popescu: you can't ask a car repair shop to "fix your car in such a way you can drive it"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00051941 = 0.3226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6222 @ 0.00051964 = 3.2332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7721 @ 0.00052163 = 4.0275 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1509 @ 0.00052339 = 0.7898 BTC [+]
Namjies: Ah, but the advertisers can't be sure of the quality of the publisher.
Namjies: They'd prefer to pay for results.
Namjies: Publishers can figure out which advertisers pays the most by being better at conversion.
Namjies: But I don't see why advertisers wouldn't pay for results.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 55393 @ 0.00349995 = 193.8727 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 28571 @ 0.00349995 = 99.9971 BTC [+]
Namjies: I'm not even sure how much is circulating, but not much.
Namjies: half of 1 million is issued on MPEx
Namjies: And a much small amount actually circulating
Namjies: rg, how much is circulating?
Namjies: Last I heard 175k I think but it might be more
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13486 @ 0.00052383 = 7.0644 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8114 @ 0.00052392 = 4.2511 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6886 @ 0.00052392 = 3.6077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5414 @ 0.00052393 = 2.8366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15914 @ 0.00052393 = 8.3378 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.000524 = 1.2503 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13340 @ 0.00052371 = 6.9863 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1360 @ 0.00051987 = 0.707 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052388 = 2.2637 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19729 @ 0.000524 = 10.338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005202 = 2.2478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8529 @ 0.00051987 = 4.434 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13817 @ 0.00051987 = 7.183 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00051914 = 5.8575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4443 @ 0.00051914 = 2.3065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00339377 = 1.0181 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00051939 = 8.9854 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00051939 = 9.0374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.000524 = 2.227 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051922 = 2.2435 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1774 @ 0.00051914 = 0.921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5905 @ 0.00051862 = 3.0625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052365 = 2.2627 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052373 = 2.263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15017 @ 0.000524 = 7.8689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051886 = 2.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00051873 = 0.8969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052381 = 2.2634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 918 @ 0.000524 = 0.481 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7361 @ 0.00052418 = 3.8585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052395 = 2.264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17529 @ 0.00052418 = 9.1884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9710 @ 0.00052418 = 5.0898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4992 @ 0.00052431 = 2.6174 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13248 @ 0.00052436 = 6.9467 BTC [+]
dub: dopeness byond beliefness
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6967 @ 0.00339667 = 23.6646 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00339377 = 0.8484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052032 = 2.2483 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00052021 = 7.439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9166 @ 0.00051862 = 4.7537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00051588 = 2.4055 BTC [-]
Guest13968: whats that keyboard they have on the techincs
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.75000, Best ask: 12.78998, Bid-ask spread: 0.03998, Last trade: 12.78999, 24 hour volume: 33686.06210018, 24 hour low: 12.49010, 24 hour high: 12.79701, 24 hour vwap: 12.62702
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052425 = 2.2653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00052436 = 0.9973 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26527 @ 0.00052443 = 13.9116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051423 = 2.222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18004 @ 0.00051454 = 9.2638 BTC [+]
Ukto: in case you didnt see it
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.18899, Best ask: 13.18900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.18900, 24 hour volume: 45398.29533466, 24 hour low: 12.52550, 24 hour high: 13.24000, 24 hour vwap: 12.84589
gigavps: good afternoon mircea_popescu
Ukto: its a good afternoon
Ukto: i figured once coin choke started to hit, it would go up
mircea_popescu: it'll be so fucking funny on the 12th. i guess btcjam for them ?
mircea_popescu: ukto tbh i was thinking it'd hit sooner (so did many people, to wit the november options slate)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052435 = 2.2657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13301 @ 0.00052443 = 6.9754 BTC [+]
Ukto: everyone was holding thoguh, with teh same expectation
Ukto: since everyone held their breath
Ukto: now ppl are starting to let go, but have less and less to let go
Ukto: whats up with btcjam ?
mircea_popescu: Ukto i was just saying, the icbit people will have to get the 2,3,500 btc they'll owe me somehow.
Ukto: didnt think btcjam was making any real progress last i looked atit
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, im curious who's the first person to sue/get sued in the rota thingee.
Ukto: pigeons is always happy :P
Ukto: unless pirate is around :P
Ukto: now that I look at btcjam
Ukto: i think its more of what I was wanting to do
Ukto: there was a lending site I saw
Ukto: that let ppl invest in ppl for loans etc like that
Ukto: however, you got shares
Ukto: for every $25 you put in
Ukto: and could then trade the shares if you wanted
mircea_popescu: but i'm curious now, does anyone even get the rota reference ?
mircea_popescu: it's a reference to the oldest court system still in functional use to this day
EskimoBob: military police force in São Paulo ?
EskimoBob: I am not going to even comment on that bull shit. You ar
dub: that anna arden is certainly very rapable
mircea_popescu: anonymous loser trying to cling to what she imagines is "famous people" to "become famous" herself.
pigeons: she should just "leak" a sex tape
Namjies: Someone should probably buy that 16k S.BVPS shares I couldn't afford.
FabianB: so mircea_popescu ia the pope of bitcoin
Namjies: I think there's around 200k circulating and I own 130k already.
Namjies: 1/2 of the 1 million total shares
Namjies: Not sure of the exact amount.
mircea_popescu: to offer in this IPO a total of 150`000 (one hundred thousand) shares, as follows : one block of 30`000 (thirty thousand) shares at a price of 0.0022 BTC each ; one block of 75`000 (seventy-five thousand) shares at a price of 0.0024 BTC each ; one block of 45`000 (fourty-five thousand) shares at a price of 0.0026 BTC each.
mircea_popescu: a right you are. was 150k originally + whatever he sold after that if anything
Namjies: He might be the one who bought shares and sold back at 0.00349
Namjies: From which there's 16k left.
Namjies: He said he was buying shares around 0.003 and putting them back for sale.
Namjies: S.BVPS is a good stock anyway.
assbot: [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.00349995 / 0.00349995 / 0.00349995 (83964 shares, 293.87 BTC), 30day: 0.002 / 0.00303219 / 0.00349995 (182572 shares, 553.59 BTC)
Namjies: If I had been quicker, could have paid them 0.003 instead of 0.0035
Namjies: 50 BTC / 500 000 issued on mpex = 0.0001BTC per share or 1/35
Namjies: The div is paid on 500k shares only.
Namjies: That's assuming no growth of profit.
pigeons: down to 1 partner not awol, and just barely
pigeons: grubles is mia, rg has a job
Namjies: I talked to him the other day.
Namjies: He's just not as active as usual.
Namjies: He's moving with a new provider and getting a new design rolled out too for the website.
Namjies: Should get him 24/7 support for his customers and automatic provision of VPSes instead of manual.
Namjies: Otherwise, as far as I know, customer amounts stay stable, not really moving much.
Namjies: Haven't seen grubles talking at all lately.
Namjies: [16:30] <gribble> grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 5 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <grubles> gribble, stop hitting yourself
Namjies: [16:31] <gribble> grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-hosting 27 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 45
Namjies: eh, looks like he want on vacation somewhere in the savannah or something and got lost or eaten.
Ukto: thats good news.. [15:39] <amphipod> Dec04 21:37:11 mtgox x31 410.2572 @ 13.36583058 USD
Ukto: price went up more past 13.20
Ukto: curious how high the rally will get today
Namjies: Damn... maybe I should have sold options instead of buying S.BVPS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00051548 = 7.0363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2490 @ 0.00051475 = 1.2817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00327747 = 6.3911 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.00327078 = 16.0268 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00323801 = 0.1619 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Namjies, how much S.BVPS did u buy?
Bugpowder: I sold you the S.BVPS. Nice profit on that trade.
Bugpowder: Was worried I cornered the market, thought the float was only 150K.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30041, Best ask: 13.30939, Bid-ask spread: 0.00898, Last trade: 13.30939, 24 hour volume: 60464.88859745, 24 hour low: 12.55000, 24 hour high: 13.50000, 24 hour vwap: 12.98665
mircea_popescu: a no. last month i covered on my own money, like 25k of the 41k capital
Bugpowder: yeah I noticed that change from "lender of last resort"
Bugpowder: As I recall a few months ago, you contribution was listed differently in the MPOE bondholders results.
Bugpowder: something like 6. mircea_popescu lender of last resort
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1831 @ 0.00051475 = 0.9425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00051474 = 0.8879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6879 @ 0.00051362 = 3.5332 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12915 @ 0.00051094 = 6.5988 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I think we see 15... Not sure if we will HOLD it though.
Bugpowder: Although I think we are finally running out of things that can blow up to create panic sales.
mircea_popescu: you kidding ? they have something like 1mn in "preorders"
Bugpowder: how is that money going to recycle back into the economy?
mircea_popescu: i tell you, if some of the larger players get burned on bfl they might just go out.
Bugpowder: that's already a messed up situation
mircea_popescu: if he's out the 5-10k btc there on top of the recent glbse crapfest + whatever lawyer cost etc
mircea_popescu: one example picked out of what, a dozen or two people.
Bugpowder: do you think the deepbit problem is why the hash rate is down?
mircea_popescu: im possibly the cluelest veteran when it comes to mining.
Bugpowder: Namjies, how much would you have spent for the stock?
mircea_popescu: pigeons "If you make a payment to us by an unauthorized method, your best recourse would be to contact the financial institution or the payment provider company you used, and request that they reverse the transaction."
mircea_popescu: that's the first time i've seen a merchant begging for this.
Bugpowder: sellers remorse is the 1.3M of S.MPOE @ 38000
Namjies: Bugpowder, would have skipped if higher.
Namjies: I was late to buy around 0.003
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00050368 / 0.00051623 / 0.00052443 (1249621 shares, 645.09 BTC), 30day: 0.00047 / 0.00050943 / 0.00053881 (97679619 shares, 49,761.45 BTC)
Bugpowder: I am just getting over the depression
Bugpowder: It would have made up for all the fucked up F.GIGA losses
Namjies: so ended up having to cough up the BTC at 0.0035
Namjies: Otherwise I'd have created puts and sold those puts.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051096 = 2.2079 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6825 @ 0.00051094 = 3.4872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10554 @ 0.00050909 = 5.3729 BTC [-]
Namjies: Which can be very profitable right now.
mircea_popescu: You can simply take the number of Bitcoins you need… and multiply it by this number, to see how many dollars you need.
pigeons: A Reputation you can Trust: The founder of BuyBitcoin.com, Bruce Wagner, is the most famous person in the Bitcoin world, and is considered to be an expert on Bitcoin, and the Bitcoin Economy.
Namjies: Scoundrel "Bitconman" McFuckerscammer's Fine Digital Coins Shop, LLC.
mircea_popescu: he could just call it mybitcoin.com and be done with it
pigeons: well you can't say you didn't know where he wanted to fuck you
Bugpowder: Well... its cheaper than the physicals at memorydealers.com
pigeons: “I’m very pleased with my bitcoin purchase, everything was smooth. Amazing that you even process bank deposits on Saturdays and Sundays too!”
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well ya but custom rounds are always expensive.
pigeons: What are your daily transaction limits? I would be interested in large USD deposits to your bank account.”
mircea_popescu: doesn't make sense to run one for less than a few million pieces, so.
Bugpowder: casacius sells them direct for like 1BTC over face.
Namjies: I just wonder if BitVPS will really improve in term of customers now after the changes.
pigeons: Namjies: he's gotta migrate everyone to openvz, doesn't sound fun
Bugpowder: obviously not updated in a long time
Bugpowder: Actually... the 10BTC silver one is not horrible either.
Namjies: And not migrating everyone.
Namjies: Old boxes on international servers will be kept.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i like the Shop by Price $0.00 - $1,000.00 (5) $1,000.00 - $2,000.00 (1) part best.
Namjies: The new, automatically provisioned VPSes will be on Xen with a specific provider tho.
pigeons: ok but domestic kvm folks will probably leave
iz: Bugpowder: is your name a bomb the bass reference?
mircea_popescu: people w/o blogs really have no idea how useful one is.
Namjies: In your case, useful to hear yourself speak?
Namjies: Doesn't look like people are reading your blog much. No comments. We only get to read something when you link us to it.
Namjies: I have a feeling it lacks audience.
Namjies: I had one once and scrapped it.
Namjies: I don't see visitors stats
mircea_popescu: for one, how many times do people comment on your clothes ? and is this an argument in favour of going around naked ?
Namjies: I wouldn't mind going around naked.
mircea_popescu: for another, people make a lot of comments on btctalk.
Namjies: Not always good, but blog usually do get a few comments ever 100-200 readers.
mircea_popescu: suppose you could have a btctalk that consisted of only the 0.1% of comments worth reading from the 1% of people you actually think anything of.
Namjies: Something like 10% of the population should just go one day to work naked and keep it like that. Instant impossibility to apply nudity ban.
mircea_popescu: Namjies i do have a nudity-for-slaves rule in place, but it's one thing to have nubile young women naked around the house
mircea_popescu: and quite another to have the general population in say the bus
Namjies: I'm just saying, if the population wanted, repealing laws would be easy.
mircea_popescu: prolly a good idea to pick more sensible laws to repeal.
mircea_popescu: fwiw nudity isn't even illegal, just mostly impractical.
Namjies: It's technically going to get you arrested.
Namjies: It's not legal to go around public places naked.
Namjies: I guess Canada/US is not part of the civilized world.
Namjies: It's usually acknowledged the human body is not in itself indecent.
Namjies: If we ban public nudity based on the fact it can bother some to see it, we might as well ban breathing because some could be bothered by seeing it.
Namjies: Or anything else someone might not want to see.
mircea_popescu: again, nudity is not banned afaik. causing a disturbance is, which i can see the point.
Namjies: Well someone seeing something not directed at them is not disturbance.
mircea_popescu: ya ya, but if people start crowding and blocking the road and stampeding each other this'd be a problem.
Namjies: But even not doing anything particuliar.
Namjies: Try just walking on the sidewalk naked. You'll get arrested.
Namjies: Someone will complain and police will show up.
mircea_popescu: people are funny anyway. last time i took the girls out for a shoot last winter there were some people happening to walk their dogs now and again.
mircea_popescu: the dogs on seeing nude women were moderately interested, as in, hallo ?
Namjies: Nice. Although I'm not surprised for San Francisco.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, people tend to confuse things. police gets called cause "omg naked person", they have to show up (cause they were called, it's how it works)
mircea_popescu: the officer then talks to the person in question. if the guy gets all beligerent yea he's getting arrested. was he arrested for being naked ? well... not really.
Namjies: Maybe in Romania, but in the US/Canada?
mircea_popescu: well, you keep insisting on discussing places which have no rule of law.
mircea_popescu: in the us/canada whatever the cop feels like will happen.
mircea_popescu: the person gets raped, maybe, the person gets arrested for conspiracy, maybe,
mircea_popescu: Dec 04 02:25:56 <Namjies> Stop putting /dtng/ links in here.
Namjies: No. I just tend to click all links before checking them and I'm not particularly interested in seeing intercourse.
Namjies: If we allow public nudity...
Namjies: Same goes for everything else as long as it's not directly aimed at someone.
Namjies: Although I suppose it's more the lack of warning that bothers me. I stay around for bitcoin * asset news and you always present the links as "In other news/This is interesting/etc."
Namjies: that there's a database error?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050942 = 2.2012 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8677 @ 0.00050909 = 4.4174 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1402 @ 0.00050631 = 0.7098 BTC [-]
dub: is the latest flash completely fucking broken
dub: thats what you get with riceOS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00050631 = 2.7594 BTC [-]
dub: I build one little house for these habitat for humanity fucks and they hound me till I die
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051542 = 2.2271 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00051548 = 3.3764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00051941 = 8.9339 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9259 @ 0.00052443 = 4.8557 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051463 = 2.2237 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21845 @ 0.00051433 = 11.2355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051604 = 2.2298 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00051607 = 0.8515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052232 = 2.2569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19618 @ 0.00052237 = 10.2479 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 672 @ 0.00052443 = 0.3524 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051789 = 2.2378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13729 @ 0.00051774 = 7.1081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00051547 = 0.1804 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051553 = 2.2276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14230 @ 0.00051547 = 7.3351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052302 = 2.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10780 @ 0.00052332 = 5.6414 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051572 = 2.2284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6779 @ 0.00051547 = 3.4944 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052308 = 2.2602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13153 @ 0.00052332 = 6.8832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052298 = 2.2598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00052332 = 2.7302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7162 @ 0.00052443 = 3.756 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052441 = 2.266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3179 @ 0.00052443 = 1.6672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00052446 = 3.6712 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.00052446 = 2.7046 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00052446 = 3.0943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19643 @ 0.00052446 = 10.302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5707 @ 0.00052459 = 2.9938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3942 @ 0.00052459 = 2.0679 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17358 @ 0.00052461 = 9.1062 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it boggles how inept someone must be to try and leech bitcoin creed off genjix.
pigeons: nothing, i just knew linking to a genjox video for rile mircea_popescu up
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: who is the guy speaking in the first video?
mircea_popescu: i dunno who were the other schmucks around there, but i guess yet another service going nowhere on half a mil of angel capital.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11542 @ 0.00052461 = 6.055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8939 @ 0.00052465 = 4.6898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.00052467 = 3.7687 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I dunno, is it wrong Im bitter?
mircea_popescu: "The only way to prove you are who you say you are purely online"
mircea_popescu: sorta like, you know, retarded pgp implementation that fails to work i bet.
Diablo-D3: why do people keep implementing things again and again
Diablo-D3: like, just to say reinventing the wheel doesnt cover it
mircea_popescu: because there's some idiots who think they too can be "investors" in "technology"
mircea_popescu: even if they don't understand either capital or engineering.
mircea_popescu: these idiots keep pushing money out, and by now a sort of circus/sideshow act has developed
mircea_popescu: sort of like the 419 nigerians, except these are usually poor inner city youths (with or without an acne problem)
mircea_popescu: and they do... what you see in that youtube. cockgrabbing basically.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: maybe Im in the wrong business
mircea_popescu: why ? if you wanted to be in showbiz your best bet would be growing tits and working vegas anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052385 = 2.2636 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13079 @ 0.0005237 = 6.8495 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I should just be serial startupping
pigeons: heh he demonstrates silk road in his presentation
pigeons: as his first application of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: actually delivering something would prolly have everyone fall over.
Diablo-D3: its a C-like language that is very erlangy in thought process
Diablo-D3: I already know up front Im reinventing lisp at some point
pigeons: then takes a phonecall during his presentation
mircea_popescu: actually i'm publishing this. too much truth content to let it slide.
Diablo-D3: pigeons: it was fucking up the microphone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00052444 = 1.3635 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I dunno, I just want to do something that actually improves computing for people
Diablo-D3: and then retire as a multi-billionare.
mircea_popescu: people do not deserve any improvement. let them wallow.
mircea_popescu: if you're doing something do something you need yourself.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1721 @ 0.00052444 = 0.9026 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20060 @ 0.00052467 = 10.5249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1135 @ 0.00052472 = 0.5956 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: he cant explain how the math works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00052472 = 2.0915 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00052482 = 3.4974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1586 @ 0.00052482 = 0.8324 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11814 @ 0.00052485 = 6.2006 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you forgot to clip the bitter line
Diablo-D3: because the bitter was going for a different rant and you sidetracked me
Diablo-D3: said rant: millions of dollars, none of them going to dmc.
mircea_popescu: don't feel to bad, inaba lost it when he found out what mpex goes for.
noagendamarket: you could always invest in james mccarthy's new startup
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18157 @ 0.00052485 = 9.5297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3356 @ 0.00052485 = 1.7614 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18348 @ 0.000525 = 9.6327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18115 @ 0.00052508 = 9.5118 BTC [+]
kuzetsa: yeah, Jim MCDonalds or something like that.
kuzetsa: at least I didn't say MCHammer
kuzetsa: ... no, McDonalds was worse :(
pigeons: < noagendamarket> you could always invest in james mccarthy's new startup < nameterrific? ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052382 = 2.2634 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.0005237 = 0.4865 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Software Engineer on the solaris testing team, quite impressive what can i tell you
mircea_popescu: i guess i was a senior software engineer on the blizzard testing team back when wow was in closed beta, right ?
Diablo-D3: Im a godlike software tester for both id software and valve on linux.
Diablo-D3: seriously, on my business cards, I use "Deity at large"
pigeons: no software tester is called "business analyst now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0005237 = 3.0113 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but srsly, i wonder how long does it take to query a db on solaris.
dub: fuck genjix in his pimply ass
dub: what a fucking toolbag
noagendamarket: putting the worst of society al in one place always works out well...
dub: bitcoins are like good cause like were hackers and fings, and silkroad and fing
mircea_popescu: indeed, looking forward to the torching of amsterdam at the hands of the goths
pigeons: someone jumped in and saved him at the end
dub: oh and technology like wikileaks and fings
mircea_popescu: so im making a romanian dicelist, cause apparently romanians are too retarded to have one already
dub: and internet guns and fings
dub: and im really enfusiastic and I would make a demonstration but i dont have bitcoin
noagendamarket: he could always give a demo about how to survive on noodles and bad cereal
mircea_popescu: then we wonder why people don't take bitcoin seriously.
mircea_popescu: well... if my first contact with bitcoin were something like this i'd still be laughing at you all.
pigeons: you should watch it mircea_popescu
dub: bitcoin is like a brick
pigeons: dub is hitting the highlights at least
noagendamarket: genjix could steal from the supermarket really good in that jacket
dub: and its based off of maffmatics
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005248 = 2.2677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3856 @ 0.00052508 = 2.0247 BTC [+]
dub: I dont think I can watch the questions
dub: he doesnt understand bitcoin at all
dub: the best thing he can do for bitcoin is shoot himself in the face
noagendamarket: Homeless people wear green jackets to blend into the plants at night
dub: they are just laughing at him
pigeons: a guy in the audience tells people don't laugh, its really complex, if you want to understand about it look on wikipedia
dub: computing maffmatical riddles for a small reward and its based on electricity
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052379 = 2.2633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3142 @ 0.0005237 = 1.6455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22787 @ 0.00052344 = 11.9276 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: you need to watch this, to understand what a complete shitcock he is
dub: haha some random asshole tries to explain it for him, gets it completely wrong and he agrees with them
dub: its really hard to watch
noagendamarket: I havent cringed that much s9ince the last season of big brother uk
mircea_popescu: i had a girl make me a transcript of nefario's speech about two months ago and then i had to give her sick leave the next day.
dub: this guy is hundreds of times worse than nefario
pigeons: you would like this one, i promise
dub: he is actually retarded
pigeons: i'm really not, this is something you would enjoy
dub: yeah mircea_popescu its actually painful to watch, like some kind of s&m thing
noagendamarket: can you have someone committed to a mental institution ?
noagendamarket: why is someone speaking about bitcoin when they dont have any ?
dub: he infers pretty strongly that he invented bitcoin
noagendamarket: where can you contribute to a bounty to have someone get a cream pie thrown in their face
dub: also, he's a hacker, yes hacker got that hacker, hacker HACKER hacker, that cant switch off a mobile phone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005248 = 2.2677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00052508 = 3.402 BTC [+]
dub: I feel like he just raped my wallet.dat
pigeons: you have your bitcoins in your little wallet file on your computer and no one in the world can take them away from you
dub: someone transcribe it for the forum
dub: it'll be fucking hilarious
dub: mircea_popescu: cue -pr
dub: one of the questioners is trolling him hard
mircea_popescu: she'll get hives and be extra mean to everyoner for a week
noagendamarket: lol @ going into a room full of bankers and talking about illegal drugs
pigeons: well you can also use it to fund projects that print weapons...
dub: yeah and wikileaks and fings
pigeons: yeah technologies like wikileaks
dub: hah I forgot about that
pigeons: if you irretreivably damage your cassacius coin, you can still suck the bitcoin out of it
pigeons: genjix will get better with practice :)
pigeons: who was the guy who said its like a prime number that there are only 1 million of?
pigeons: at least then people were like, oh ok
dub: I tried to steal from my employer and got fired, suxs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00052508 = 4.2805 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: We plan to review proposals on a quarterly basis, with the first grant submission deadline
mircea_popescu: dude, somebody needs to explain to gavin what side of the cock he's on.
noagendamarket: *submits a proposal to buy weed on silk road and resell for profit
pigeons: i'm gonna send one proposal for each btcjam listing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052352 = 2.2621 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4294 @ 0.00052344 = 2.2477 BTC [-]
dub: Brief overview of your proposal: buy 3d printer and materials to print an internet gun and shoot amir with it
mircea_popescu: i've been trying that. iranians are idiots pretty much.
pigeons: mircea_popescu: its a big crying match though in -dev jgarzik kicked someone for wanting to promote to iran
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15119 @ 0.00052344 = 7.9139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00052307 = 4.0538 BTC [-]
dub: my conspiracy theory that there is a dev cabal working to keep bitcoin under ground by promoting scams and retardation is looking more and more likely
dub: no -dev is actually about dev, they police it well
mircea_popescu: <jgarzik> But in particular, it is the height of stupidity to encourage bitcoin use in (a) countries under sanction by the US and Europe
dub: agree with jgarzik too, its illegal and that is the public face of bitcoin dev
dub: stupid, unenforced law aside
dub: well sha is owned by the US govt
mircea_popescu: i don't grasp the constant need to allign with something or the other.
dub: and exporting it to embargoed countries is illegal
mircea_popescu: "let's not translate this program to iran cause bush doesn't like khomeini" ? wtf is that.
pigeons: i think i found a market. debt counseling services for bitcoin
dub: theres a strong demand for face punching services
pigeons: the pie throwing was a good idea
pigeons: genjix had a teen camgirl service
mircea_popescu: camgirl is to callgirl what medieval reenacting is to rape and pillage.
mircea_popescu: but you know, i find it very dubious that silkroad matters if there's not a sex-for-bitcoin thing.
noagendamarket: if you send bitcoins to a hooker 2 hours beforehand techincally its just 2 adults meeting for sex
mircea_popescu: noagendamarket certainly could not make a prostitution case stick as things are now. so... yeah.
dub: wait, prostitution is still illegal in places?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051919 = 2.2434 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2679 @ 0.00051917 = 1.3909 BTC [-]
dub: pigeons: I like nefario's question "how do I get in on this?!"
pigeons: "But really, how do you meet people like this in real life?"
pigeons: i wonder how many of the addresses in the list giga got belong to nefario
pigeons: well i guess it wouldnt help in that case, cause of the process giga is requiring
noagendamarket: start an underground asset then go running to the government when you hit a snag = profit!
noagendamarket: I hope the government screws him as badly as anyone who bought shares
pigeons: "it was a legal grey area before, now i know a lawyer"
noagendamarket: I have to take all your money because i saw a lawyer on the simpsons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00051956 = 1.2111 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00051963 = 7.4567 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5364 @ 0.00052508 = 2.8165 BTC [+]
noagendamarket: do lawyers usually advise you to steal all the underground currency you hold ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005192 = 2.2435 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5771 @ 0.00051917 = 2.9961 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00051832 = 1.4036 BTC [-]
noagendamarket: I am a bad ass except when i actually speak to a lawyer, in which case not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052477 = 2.2675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052477 = 2.2675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052479 = 2.2676 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00052479 = 0.964 BTC [+]
noagendamarket: I wonder if cryptostocks or mpex shut down would the owners even get a scammer tag unless theymos owned shares in them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00052473 = 2.0727 BTC [-]
pigeons: shut down? or shut down and over a month later hasn't given the btc or asset info?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00052473 = 0.1947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2484 @ 0.00052479 = 1.3036 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24595 @ 0.00052508 = 12.9143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00052099 = 3.8814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1653 @ 0.00052099 = 0.8612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5289 @ 0.00052508 = 2.7771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5558 @ 0.00052512 = 2.9186 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051843 = 2.2401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4595 @ 0.00051832 = 2.3817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051834 = 2.2397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00051832 = 8.9172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15775 @ 0.00051822 = 8.1749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051975 = 2.2458 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14329 @ 0.00051988 = 7.4494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051963 = 2.2453 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4821 @ 0.00051988 = 2.5063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10778 @ 0.00052512 = 5.6597 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15030 @ 0.00052526 = 7.8947 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8370 @ 0.00052526 = 4.3964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4428 @ 0.00052541 = 2.3265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00052557 = 6.885 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00052559 = 1.6467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14790 @ 0.00052559 = 7.7735 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15704 @ 0.00052564 = 8.2547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00332634 = 11.6422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00052004 = 11.5449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2096 @ 0.00052564 = 1.1017 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14378 @ 0.00052566 = 7.5579 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4176 @ 0.00052567 = 2.1952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00052004 = 1.4041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9775 @ 0.00051822 = 5.0656 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275 @ 0.00051742 = 0.1423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8024 @ 0.00052567 = 4.218 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00052569 = 7.1757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00052573 = 5.1522 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00052576 = 1.8801 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2350 @ 0.00332634 = 7.8169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15924 @ 0.00052576 = 8.3722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4676 @ 0.00052606 = 2.4599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051757 = 2.2364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13906 @ 0.00051742 = 7.1952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6397 @ 0.00051739 = 3.3097 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00052137 = 4.197 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051762 = 2.2366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11609 @ 0.00051739 = 6.0064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00052198 = 3.8888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052575 = 2.2718 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18329 @ 0.00052606 = 9.6422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 175 @ 0.00332634 = 0.5821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00326961 = 3.4331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1277 @ 0.00323801 = 4.1349 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052172 = 2.2544 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25479 @ 0.00052147 = 13.2865 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052592 = 2.2725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8929 @ 0.00052606 = 4.6972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052172 = 2.2544 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00052147 = 1.1321 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00052082 = 7.1873 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4694 @ 0.00051739 = 2.4286 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00051721 = 0.7831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15586 @ 0.00051721 = 8.0612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.00051618 = 2.2139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3740 @ 0.00051618 = 1.9305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052605 = 2.2731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 571 @ 0.00052606 = 0.3004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12395 @ 0.00052606 = 6.5205 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12613 @ 0.00052612 = 6.636 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.0005247 = 0.446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3471 @ 0.0005247 = 1.8212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00052488 = 7.0334 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5733 @ 0.00052596 = 3.0153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051802 = 2.2384 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10929 @ 0.00051796 = 5.6608 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000518 = 2.2383 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4193 @ 0.00051618 = 2.1643 BTC [-]
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mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr broke out in hives reading it. i haven't read it myself.
jcpham: i can't read it because of the "uh's"
dub: would be funnier translated into english
dub: like the english 50 cent twitter account
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3643 @ 0.0005164 = 1.8812 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3514 @ 0.00051758 = 1.8188 BTC [+]
dub: click the link at the top
dub: jcpham: you may need a strong drink to get through that
mircea_popescu: jcpham there's a link in the intro giving context/source etc.
jcpham: i can't handle the uh's
jcpham: it's bad public speaking and it bothers me a lot
pigeons: i just wanted you to watch it mircea_popescu
dub: its good to watch it
mod6: ugh i see why she got hives. so much bad information from that guy.
kakobrekla: i have seen it before and ill see it again.
mod6: lol when people ask me how btc comes from, im gonna tell 'em:
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29554 @ 0.00051758 = 15.2966 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu, thanks mpoe-pr for transcription... i can now try to digest all that wisdom
noagendamarket: pigeons I guess nefario shut down glbse and will start a clone site meaning the shareholders get screwed too
pigeons: i imagine it would have to be attempted under a new identity
pigeons: i don't think he believes he has any trust left
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 981 @ 0.00051051 = 0.5008 BTC [-]
pigeons: oh yeah this is the "legit" thing
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla she's shy. and besides! wtf business am i running here.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1565 @ 0.00328056 = 5.1341 BTC [+]
pigeons: i'll genjixroll you one day
dub: a place I worked had a customer that claimed we gave him bowel cancer and killed him
dub: because he could only get 9something Mbit out of his 10Mbit cable connection
dub: and all teh years complaining about it had caused the stress that caused the cancer etc
mircea_popescu: and also that one time, at night, he shoved the antenna up his ass.
dub: i mean if I knew hot to give cancer out over the internet, we wouldnt have this problem with genjix
noagendamarket: if only you could punch people in the face over the internet
mircea_popescu: the only thingthat'd do would be a service of internet gloryhole
mircea_popescu: where "straight" pasty fatasses would suck each other off
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15558 @ 0.00051017 = 7.9372 BTC [-]
dub: jesus fuck I spent a lot in getting drunk the other night
Namjies: What the heck is that transcript for?
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> there's a link in the intro giving context/source etc.
dub: amir speaking at a finance conference
dub: ah, bought case of bollinger
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6256 @ 0.00050643 = 3.1682 BTC [-]
Namjies: Which conference? Why? Who's Amir?
gribble: genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy.
dub: Namjies: Amir is founder of interscamgo
dub: also chief bitcoin fuckwad and oxygen waster
jcpham: i miss antagonizing MNW
mircea_popescu: it boggles to think that at some point bitcoin was so in the shit people like these were either apparently or actually contributing
jcpham: nah i just miss MNW coming on IRC and talking shit
jcpham: oh and betting people bitcoins he doesn't have
jcpham: goat calls me names so he and i aren't associates
Namjies: I feel like Bitcoin are being grossly misrepresented...
jcpham: which is very humorous
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00050643 = 1.6712 BTC [-]
Namjies: How do they chose their panels for conferences? Take the guy shouting: "Me! Take me! I are largest expert Bitcoin!"
noagendamarket: someone should show up and ask questions about the various scams of intersango
Namjies: I could have done a presentation 100 times clearer and informational without even knowing the exact way Bitcoins work within the code. Just the general simplified concept.
Namjies: Anyone else could have done it.
Namjies: Why didn't he have a presentation prepared?
noagendamarket: during the occupy protests the government sent in mental patients to make it look bad
noagendamarket: if i was a banker i would find the most retarded bitcoiners around and put them in front of audiences
smickles: just to let the chan know, S²CM just got its shareholder infos
Namjies: Oh right... Kraken had some units bought by Patrick himself.
Namjies: So when he paid 50% back... I could now not pay him and have some more.
jcpham: smickles is my new boyfriend!
Namjies: and I just got the Kraken list.
jcpham: guys maybe nefario isn't a fuckwit after all
Namjies: He is... looking at all what he did. But he tries to be at least honest even if he made huge mistakes...
kakobrekla: he acts like a chicked with its head chopped off, runs around for a comple of minutes w/o it
jcpham: kutcher should've invested in coinbase
kakobrekla: smickles did you get the data for all shares?
mircea_popescu: <Namjies> How do they chose their panels for conferences? Take the guy shouting: "Me! Take me! I are largest expert Bitcoin!" << pretty much
smickles: kakobrekla: all shares appear to be accounted for (assuming trust for the data ofc)
pigeons: you guys should be nicer to genjix
jurov: yes poor genjix. they woke him up at 3am and forced him to do presentation quickly
pigeons: and then handed him his backpack and kicked him right out
Namjies: It's a conspiracy from the banks, they paid him well to do that on purpose so Bitcoins would look bad! (Made with the support of How to Start Another Movement of Conspiracy Nuts in One Line for Dummies)
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jcpham: shit the banks can pay me and i'll make it look worse
pigeons: he just wasn't used to talking to that type of audience
mircea_popescu: Sep 16 01:13:21 <nefario> I haven't even written my talk for tomorrow
Namjies: Bitcoin Conferencers: Mission Preparation Zero - In theaters January 4th.
jurov: "Whats wrong with this? The guy seems very genuine." reddit rules
noagendamarket: Its more cringeworthy than the time atlas called into the bitcoin show with bruce fagner
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Namjies: Actually, for people who thinks Bitcoins are for nutcases or are nutcases themselves, that guy will seem very genuine indeed.
Namjies: The world is starting to go round again.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14867 @ 0.00050932 = 7.5721 BTC [+]
Namjies: Why is it all in yml? Couldn't he send a csv?
Namjies: Now I have to do a search and replace to replace delimiters superflous data to commas.
Namjies: Then make that into a spreadsheet.
mircea_popescu: be happy your yml parses. iirc giga was saying his didn't.
Namjies: I use notepad++ to do the search and replace...
Namjies: then open office to open the list with the comma delimiters.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16567 @ 0.00051016 = 8.4518 BTC [+]
Namjies: At worst if there's a bad line, you'll see it when doing the search and replace in notepad++
mod6: just use vim like :% s/x/y/g
mod6: where say, you want to replace colon with comma: s/:/,/g
mod6: thats my vim tip of the day, tyvm
mircea_popescu: the power of bash is like bitcoin : before you learn how to use it you don't understand why you should
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5646 @ 0.00051092 = 2.8847 BTC [+]
Namjies: Sounds like the usual speech about just EVERYTHING.
Namjies: Religious people use the same speech. You don't understand why my god is so great until you know it and you won't understand how you lived without it before.
Namjies: "My thing is the greatest, you'd understand if you did like me."
Namjies: If I was you, I'd probably think like you indeed since I'd be you.
mod6: (14:50) < mircea_popescu> after you don't understand how you lived before.
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mod6: ^^^ this is correct though. once you learn how to use a terminal or a scripting language or bitcoin, you'll be like "how did i ever do anything before??"
Namjies: Summary: I don't find the statement convincing.
Namjies: mod6: I beg to differ. You can leech of others who could make it for you. Same result, less work.
pigeons: no but you never get what you want when you want it, you get what they made
mircea_popescu: you can either make your own money or marry some rich dude
Namjies: Except it's a different kind of relationship with the marrying example.
mod6: lol Namjies, that was far from the point. some where between A & Z, someone has to actually do some shit.
mod6: and when you find a new too that kicks ass, it makes you stunned that you'd ever gotten by without it.
Namjies: The marrying example, the woman kind of prostitues herself for the guy's money. For coding, the developer kind of prositutes work for money. And not the other way around. The guy hiring the dev is more like the rich guy, not the woman marrying it.
mod6: but to each their own, everyone has got a way. and i'd say further that when leaving the ways of the layman behind, you have to adopt more efficent tools to help you compete in the market place.
Namjies: Pay the other for something they have.
jcpham: noagendamarket in the comments at the bottom he admits to mining bitcoins
mod6: For coding, the developer kind of prositutes work for money. << Is this not true with any service based industry - Time & Services for Capital?
mircea_popescu: Namjies money and sex, in a simplified consideration, are both valuable. there's not a rule that he who has the money is in charge.
mircea_popescu: in the other example, money or sex and skill are each valuable.
mircea_popescu: again, there's not a rule that he who pays is in charge.
Namjies: mircea, no, not necessarily.
Namjies: When you pay someone, the other might be in charge/making decision.
Namjies: I suppose the situation can be interpreted both ways as such.
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla cock is usually hard to swallow, especially if it's one's first time and the thing is as thick as mine.
dub: I need to uniognore inaba to see that :(
dub: aaand it wasnt worth it
kakobrekla: >In fairness, I can't spell your name either, Mr. P can't, your name is just too much to spell.
noagendamarket: When I promote bitcoin I always wear a homeless jacket
mircea_popescu: i wasn't expecting that today's portion of drama would come out of that obscure youtube
noagendamarket: Im just surprised genjix hasnt applied for a bitcoin foundation grant yet
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noagendamarket: I wonder why the cia hasnt setup a hamas donation fund for bitcoins yet
noagendamarket: then they can make a song and dance about bitcoin funding terrorism in the senate
noagendamarket: I mean techinically theres nothing stopping anyone doing that
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00051758 = 1.1143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34291 @ 0.00051769 = 17.7521 BTC [+]
dub: why bother when Pirate and Amir are doing the job for them
noagendamarket: may as well finish it off with a right hook to the jaw
dub: I assume the CIA are either content to let us marginalise ourselves for the moment, or using bitcoin themselves on a scale that warrants leaving it alone
dub: someone: you know bitcoin could be used to fund terrorism
noagendamarket: after all he demolished a couple of buildings for them
kakobrekla: coins at 1osama havent been moved in long time
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6259 @ 0.00051825 = 3.2437 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00051892 = 0.8822 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1001 @ 0.00328057 = 3.2839 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.00328056 = 0.3248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00051892 = 10.6898 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahahah this entire caldwell whining that the transcriber didn't censor the ums is really hysterical
dub: haha nefario deleted his comment
mircea_popescu: lol maybe he takes it seriously and never mentions bitcoin again.
noagendamarket: I think james will need to change his name by deed poll if he ever want5s to open another business
mircea_popescu: i mean it'd be technically fraud, you can only change your name by poll if you're not doing it to escape debts etc
noagendamarket: unless hes got an a ctual lawsuit hes free to do anything
mircea_popescu: but in the event of an ulterior lawsuit if it turns out he changed his name it may spell additional trouble.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00051892 = 15.9827 BTC [+]
noagendamarket: why would anyone sue him if he has sent back most of the asset info and btc ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00051892 = 2.3092 BTC [+]
noagendamarket: unless they have thousands of dollars to waste for no reason
pigeons: maybe with today/yesterday's lists,certainly not before
Namjies: Not before. With today's, He might be getting close.
Namjies: and claims from before I received lists seems to match.
Namjies: From old users which pre-date GLBSE's closure to top it.
Namjies: Unless they're all conspirating together the lists are probably accurate.
noagendamarket: I dont think hes scamming in the same way patrick harnett is scamming over kraken
pigeons: noagendamarket = stockholm syndrome
Namjies: I don't think so either. Seems like he chickened out and is error prone, but otherwise honest. Still, it's a mess.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9527 @ 0.00051965 = 4.9507 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2964 @ 0.00052028 = 1.5421 BTC [+]
Ukto: what is your plans for things at this point?
Ukto: thought any more on it?
Namjies: Paying people back and closing things, probably.
Namjies: Might still operate BTC-BOND tho.
pigeons: well while difficulty is going up perhaps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00051495 = 2.0341 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: pigeons i don't even want to see the wave of mining bond failures if diff went down 80%
Ukto: Namjies: would you consider BF if you decide to keep btc-bond?
Ukto: my glbse replacement
Ukto: mircea_popescu: BF went live a bit ago
Ukto: has 1 asset setting up to sell atm heh
Ukto: not the graetest asset, but its better than starting with 0
Ukto: Namjies: alright. just wanted to toss it out. :)
Namjies: If I had to use a platform, I'd probably use the Belize based LitecoinGlobal/BTCT.co
Ukto: if you get curious you can always play on sandbox.bitfunder.com
noagendamarket: "We (BitFunder) do not accept responsibility for anything.
Ukto: noagendamarket: do you think any of the other agreements are any better?
Ukto: how well that worked out
Namjies: I'm mostly concerned about either having a system with easy proof of ownership or at least regular backups of holders data.
Ukto: Namjies: my system uses btc addresses to publically list holders data live
Namjies: colored coins would be the best option as far as I'm concerned.
Ukto: which makes it easy for ppl to migrate to
Ukto: yeah to colored if they wanted
Ukto: just disable trading on teh asset, and move
noagendamarket: decentralized exchanges are far worse than glbse disasters
Ukto: I wont bust you for leaving
Namjies: ownership deeds on the blockchain tools are not really developed yet tho
noagendamarket: its hard to beat placing a lien on someones actual property if they fail to pay
Namjies: why? Because anyone can do anything on decentralized?
Namjies: I hardly see the difference... anyone could do almost anything on GLBSE.
Namjies: The difference is that decentralized, data is not lost and public yet anonymous as much as the user wishes to be.
Namjies: User still has to investigate anything before purchasing.
noagendamarket: actually it might make people be more careful without seat belts
noagendamarket: btcjam has 50% default rate and they use credit checks....
Namjies: Technically, even a regulated market could be issued on decentralized and have their official app tracking official deeds and for trading.
Diablo-D3: someone needs to tell these guys bfl is most likely a scam
mircea_popescu: for one, they cost money. for the other, pfff. who's btcjam
Namjies: Assuming any government would allow such smoother regulations where they regulate only who can get issued into their official market without regulating trades.
Diablo-D3: noagendamarket: thats... not a good thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00051495 = 8.4452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00051094 = 1.2774 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00051079 = 6.8446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0005074 = 2.5877 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i know. what i'm saying is, you don't just call 911 and get a credit check result.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: they could be paying for it
Diablo-D3: why the fuck are they checking people's _credit_
Diablo-D3: my credit is not exactly 800 points here, doesnt mean Im not a legitimate investor here
Namjies: Well credit ratings include those "stains" on your loaning habits.
Namjies: If the rating is good, not necessarily 800 points, they can attribute more points for credit rating I suppose.
Diablo-D3: Namjies: yes, but wouldnt a lower score make you bitcoin friedly?
Diablo-D3: plus, in the US (in every state but 2), stuff like credit cards are unsecured debt
noagendamarket: credit score doesnt say anything about your ability to repay only that you have not paid before
noagendamarket: it doesnt say you are an inveterate gambler for instance :P
Namjies: Good score says you pay on time and don't overloan. It's a statistical indicator about if the loaner is more or less likely to pay back on time.
Diablo-D3: I mean, look at what banks have been doing
Diablo-D3: they've been intentionally forclosing on people's houses illegally
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13408 @ 0.00052028 = 6.9759 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.00052075 = 0.829 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: even when the people have not missed a payment, a few months later a sherif shows up to throw them out
Diablo-D3: which is 100% illegal in at least 4 ways
Diablo-D3: Namjies: barring? fuck, banks dont exist then
Diablo-D3: they retroactively were never invented
Diablo-D3: credit scores are worthless shit now
noagendamarket: if a bank started offering bitcoin loans I wonder what the default rate would be
Namjies: The loaners would default and the employees would defraud... I mean default the bank further
noagendamarket: even payday lenders have better default rates than bitcoin loans lol
Diablo-D3: and Im pretty sure anyone can run one as long as they comply with the FCRA, FACTA, and FCBA
Diablo-D3: and all the appropriate consumer information protection laws
Diablo-D3: (which is fucking easy, believe it or not)
Diablo-D3: like, all those companies that go LOL WE LOST CUSTOMER DETAILS
Diablo-D3: operating systems have everything you'll ever need for this built in
Diablo-D3: hell, hire a child pornographer or a terrorist, they already know how to do this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00328056 = 3.3035 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00326684 = 1.3067 BTC [-]
noagendamarket: but then some retard puts the encryption password in the sites code lol
Diablo-D3: you encrypt the disk and network io
Diablo-D3: hell, you can buy raid controllers that use random keys
Diablo-D3: even if you steal the drives out of the rack, it does you nothing, no one knows the key
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050767 = 2.1936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0005074 = 4.9725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00050731 = 6.2399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29 @ 0.00050725 = 0.0147 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: also, did I mention, nefario has sent me an asset list for dmc
mircea_popescu: "Joseph John Aiuppa (pronounced, "I-U-PA") (December 1, 1907 – February 22, 1997), also known as "Doves," "Mourning Doves," "O'Brien," or "Joey Doves," was a Chicago mobster who became a leader of the Chicago Outfit."
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I want to say pigeons is from good fellas
dub: what is the bitcoind synatax to list addresses by account?
Diablo-D3: dub: listtransactions 'name' 99999999999
noagendamarket: the mafia needs to get into bitcoin loans. that might improve the default rate
Diablo-D3: dub: oh, you want every address used by an accont?
dub: pretty sure its listreceivedbyaccount "name" but it doesnt work
Diablo-D3: dub: btw, you CAN do bitcoind help
Diablo-D3: you can do help legitimatecommand too
dub: it shows (incorrect) command syntax only, no help
Diablo-D3: bring it up with sipa and gmaxwell then
Diablo-D3: seriously, is he a card carrying homosexual?
Diablo-D3: how many dmc shares did you own at the end
dub: i did this yesterday
Diablo-D3: also, WHAT THE FUCK FORMATTING IS THIS
da2ce7_d: did you get neafro's account balances?
Diablo-D3: of all the 9000 ways of acceptably doing this
da2ce7_d: nothing a bit of perl cannot solve.
Diablo-D3: pigeons: given any xml format, I can load it in perl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00051098 = 3.5258 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: there is at least 3 modules that just load it as hashes
dub: oh, its stupidly getaddressesbyaccount
dub: because you know, having list and get prefixed commands randomly achieve list and create functionality is rad
Diablo-D3: noagendamarket: I dunno, I prefer Amazon for lots of things
noagendamarket: I wonder if nefario added extra commas for people he doesnt like
Namjies: Diablo-D3, copy-paste the superfluous data in search & replace. Replace by comma
Namjies: it will become a nice email,address,amount csv!
Namjies: In Notepad++ you can copy/paste linebreaks/tabs/etc
Diablo-D3: vim has been able to do regex since before you were born
Namjies: Well solve it with vim then
Namjies: Well what's the issue? It's the worst formating ever... and? You solve that in a few seconds...
smickles: Diablo-D3: you got that yaml thing too?
smickles: yaml requires spaces in place of tabs
Diablo-D3: what the fuck is this shit its lol
Namjies: YAML = YAML Ain't Markup Language
smickles: a lot of plugins for bukkit used it for permissions files and such
Namjies: The perfect method to have human readable lists with superflous spaces and stuff!
Namjies: Because humans can't open a csv in an appropriate program for readability...
Diablo-D3: <nefario> super gay powers unite, Ill form the head. No, the other head.
pigeons: humans can't open a csv in a spreadsheet program?
Diablo-D3: well, if this is yaml, perl has a plugin for it
smickles: nefario gave me a bunch of info w/o any privacy requirements attached
Diablo-D3: so I could just post the entire yaml to the intertubes and then nefario gets sued
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051098 = 2.9637 BTC [+]
smickles: I want to go on record that I would sell this data for 1000000 BTC
Ukto: nefario send out more list?
Ukto: Diablo-D3: yeah, i wrote a custom yaml importor
Ukto: his crap annoyed me
Diablo-D3: Ukto: erm, but it takes three regex
smickles: anyway, the data is potentially out there anyway, i mean, he sent the data w/o encryption
Diablo-D3: or one if you feel like getting clever
Ukto: not the ones I was given to test with
Ukto: i was not writing in vim
Ukto: I made an autoamted system for other ppl to upload the yaml file into my system
Diablo-D3: and in perl, you can just use the yaml module anyhow
Ukto: well, i made the importor based on yaml standards, not know what crap nefario might do
Ukto: and I hadnt seen how simple the file data was at the time yet
Ukto: until after i made it
Diablo-D3: yeah, yaml advertises itself to be fucking simple
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051139 = 2.2097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20779 @ 0.00051157 = 10.6299 BTC [+]
Ukto: i only spent what.. 30 min? to make the importer :P
Ukto: but then the claim management system
Ukto: i spent a few hours on it
Ukto: wanna spend a few more to add some extra niftyness
Diablo-D3: actually, I wonder if perl ships with the yaml module now
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-perl 0.84-1 all YAML Ain't Markup Language
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-syck-perl 1.21-1 amd64 Perl module providing a fast, lightweight YAML loader and dumper
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-tiny-perl 1.51-1 all Perl module for reading and writing YAML files
Diablo-D3: and for some reason, I already have them installed
Diablo-D3: I wonder what Im using that uses it
Ukto: did he post anywhere who all got lists?
Diablo-D3: Im tempted to just say I never got mine just to cause trouble
Diablo-D3: I should pay him back for all the trouble hes caused me
Diablo-D3: I wonder if I should like just show up at his house with everybody and just gangrape him
Diablo-D3: I mean, Im not gay, and most of my investors arent gay, but theres nothing like a hatefuck.
Diablo-D3: okay SOME of my investors arent gay
dub: so this is quote lulzy
dub: nefario posts on reddit in support of Amir using socky
dub: suggestion is made that he get back to fixing his fuckup
dub: a bunch of asset lists get sent
pigeons: didnt he delete his comment?
pigeons: it was "this guy [taaki] doesn't seem bad, he seems real enthusiastic, why don't you like him, he's just nervous"
pigeons: when we mentioned in this channel that dublinclontarf is nefario, he deleted it
dub: it was after the comment directed at him to be fair
pigeons: i still want mircea_popescu to watch the video
pigeons: he had "the girl" transacribe it
kakobrekla: bitdaytrade>>You should be really stopping trashing my name,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051103 = 2.2082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16988 @ 0.00051098 = 8.6805 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20691 @ 0.0005106 = 10.5648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6511 @ 0.00051157 = 3.3308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 898 @ 0.00052075 = 0.4676 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051021 = 2.2046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00050995 = 6.0067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 186 @ 0.00320667 = 0.5964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1506 @ 0.00320333 = 4.8242 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that first link there is me talking to the worst possible audience : some rural community of ~200 souls in the depths of romania
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051982 = 2.2461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8255 @ 0.00051999 = 4.2925 BTC [+]
dub: lol at the camera rotation in the first
mircea_popescu: anyway, they're not prepared speeches, either of them.
kakobrekla: at 5:50 second speach i hear some "kilograme"
Namjies: Processing lots of claims and updating spreadsheets.
Namjies: Because manual work is so much better than platform work eh.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, that last speech is basically me advocating bitcoin, of sorts. in 2008 iirc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051019 = 2.2045 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00050995 = 3.7119 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 543 @ 0.00321526 = 1.7459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005115 = 2.2102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18029 @ 0.00051154 = 9.2226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051027 = 2.2049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3342 @ 0.00050995 = 1.7043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0005092 = 2.6478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3741 @ 0.0005089 = 1.9038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051142 = 2.2098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00051154 = 2.5173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20199 @ 0.00051999 = 10.5033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051983 = 2.2462 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00051999 = 2.3426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 841 @ 0.00052075 = 0.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7201 @ 0.00052075 = 3.7499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00052112 = 4.7422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5999 @ 0.0005217 = 3.1297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00050748 = 1.9056 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 566 @ 0.00050748 = 0.2872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7334 @ 0.00050725 = 3.7202 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00328234 = 9.5188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052145 = 2.2532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3851 @ 0.0005217 = 2.0091 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00052176 = 10.8526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3881 @ 0.00052289 = 2.0293 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5165 @ 0.00052347 = 2.7037 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [09:16:11] <kakobrekla> at 5:50 second speach i hear some "kilograme"
Diablo-D3: [09:16:18] <kakobrekla> is this about cherries?
Diablo-D3: my penis is often weighed in kilograms by british chicks.
[\\\]: only by the bitches that failed mathclass and never heard of using mg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15075 @ 0.00052347 = 7.8913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10340 @ 0.00052372 = 5.4153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3743 @ 0.00052373 = 1.9603 BTC [+]
Namjies: right, (milli)kilograms. That could be shortened to their accurate denomination: grams.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051981 = 2.2461 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00051977 = 16.8146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00051788 = 8.4414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00051671 = 6.6656 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00051278 = 0.7328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0005138 = 3.1856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051307 = 2.217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24745 @ 0.00051278 = 12.6887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2575 @ 0.00330307 = 8.5054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 588 @ 0.00333234 = 1.9594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333813 = 3.3381 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.0033437 = 1.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00052108 = 10.5519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.0033437 = 8.0249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00052108 = 4.4552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00051628 = 7.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00051628 = 12.1842 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051628 = 2.9944 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.00051628 = 2.6821 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00051279 = 10.0507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1717 @ 0.00051278 = 0.8804 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005148 = 2.2245 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19805 @ 0.00051503 = 10.2002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4916 @ 0.00052231 = 2.5677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1107 @ 0.00328234 = 3.6336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2793 @ 0.00325533 = 9.0921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051309 = 2.2171 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2988 @ 0.00051279 = 1.5322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31691 @ 0.00051278 = 16.2505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052225 = 2.2566 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12984 @ 0.00052231 = 6.7817 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00052373 = 4.4229 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052361 = 2.2625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6712 @ 0.00052373 = 3.5153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3167 @ 0.00052474 = 1.6619 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00051741 = 5.8985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051295 = 2.2165 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8379 @ 0.00051278 = 4.2966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052312 = 2.2604 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00052311 = 10.7761 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: [12:17:58] <mircea_popescu> 0! is defined as =1
Diablo-D3: okay, I fail higher math, what is 0!?
gribble: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052207 = 2.2559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16097 @ 0.00052235 = 8.4083 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3382 @ 0.00052408 = 1.7724 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052379 = 2.2633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00052408 = 15.4494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00052408 = 5.267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052231 = 2.2569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00052223 = 0.9029 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29871 @ 0.00052408 = 15.6548 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052373 = 2.263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15991 @ 0.00052408 = 8.3806 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2983 @ 0.00052474 = 1.5653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5156 @ 0.0005253 = 2.7084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8943 @ 0.0005253 = 4.6978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052624 = 2.9469 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6507 @ 0.00052645 = 3.4256 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00052616 = 6.1561 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.000525 = 0.9188 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255 @ 0.00052645 = 0.6607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10045 @ 0.00052656 = 5.2893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24153 @ 0.000525 = 12.6803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4005 @ 0.00052656 = 2.1089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00052656 = 4.3441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00052665 = 3.0282 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00052665 = 3.6076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00052677 = 5.9788 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00052677 = 8.0069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10361 @ 0.00052683 = 5.4585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9363 @ 0.00052683 = 4.9327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.0005269 = 1.3631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32647 @ 0.000525 = 17.1397 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19553 @ 0.00052376 = 10.2411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97 @ 0.00052376 = 0.0508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18603 @ 0.00052263 = 9.7225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.0005269 = 16.6237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4016 @ 0.0005269 = 2.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18334 @ 0.00052709 = 9.6637 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8097 @ 0.00052709 = 4.2678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052264 = 2.2583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17181 @ 0.00052263 = 8.9793 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052686 = 2.2766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1569 @ 0.00052709 = 0.827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00052718 = 2.1351 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00052718 = 2.3776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3130 @ 0.00052271 = 1.6361 BTC [-]
Namjies: Hmm... I have... an interesting investor in BTC-BOND it seems...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12382 @ 0.00052718 = 6.5275 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00052724 = 1.7494 BTC [+]
Namjies: From the founder of a SEC registered trading platform? Assuming the email is accurate.
Namjies: I would have liked a reply through email to verify that.
Namjies: I just have doubts about that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00052479 = 9.2363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2089 @ 0.00052701 = 1.1009 BTC [+]
Namjies: Odd thing is he registered on Bitcointalk.org after I sent the email out. So he knew the full email and btc address. Although there's also the announcement on the forum and if he provided false information, he could then have seen the announcement and registered another account to PM those info to appear to... But why take so much trouble to appear as some other person?
Namjies: Whatever it is, I'm intrigued.
Namjies: It's not that big of a company either, focused on alternative investments and owns a large chunk of BTC-BOND in terms of the average holder but a bit of play money for anyone with larger capital.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1191 @ 0.00052271 = 0.6225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21609 @ 0.00052263 = 11.2935 BTC [-]
Namjies: It looks credible. If it's fake information, the user went to great extent to hide his true identity.
Namjies: Hmm, I guess the amount of people suitable is not lacking.
Namjies: mircea_popescu: is there a bot puting those 1000 ask/bids on options? Is that MPEx default price for options?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052519 = 2.2693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00052521 = 2.0373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21471 @ 0.00052521 = 11.2768 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15179 @ 0.00052675 = 7.9955 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005233 = 2.2612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14560 @ 0.0005232 = 7.6178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5769 @ 0.00052263 = 3.0151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052672 = 2.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00052675 = 0.3271 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12158 @ 0.00052701 = 6.4074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052298 = 2.2598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12238 @ 0.00052263 = 6.3959 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6491 @ 0.00052218 = 3.3895 BTC [-]
Namjies: looks like its around noon in Europe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052232 = 2.2569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00052218 = 3.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00052122 = 4.3261 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8306 @ 0.00052095 = 4.327 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00052263 = 2.2473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052095 = 1.5629 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1 count=10 2>/dev/null | base64 -w 0 | rev | cut -b 2- | rev
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7994 @ 0.00052095 = 4.1645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8806 @ 0.0005202 = 4.5809 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052674 = 2.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15779 @ 0.00052701 = 8.3157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052535 = 2.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00052532 = 5.2795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.0005202 = 5.4512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1905 @ 0.0005202 = 0.991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00051984 = 10.8647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3225 @ 0.00051871 = 1.6728 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 725 @ 0.00051871 = 0.3761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00051835 = 10.5743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 532 @ 0.00051724 = 0.2752 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 934 @ 0.0033361 = 3.1159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3566 @ 0.00327384 = 11.6745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15168 @ 0.00051724 = 7.8455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00051701 = 6.9796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00051669 = 6.4586 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11232 @ 0.00051596 = 5.7953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00051751 = 0.2329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1668 @ 0.00051596 = 0.8606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13682 @ 0.00051484 = 7.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7134 @ 0.00051484 = 3.6729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 197 @ 0.0005133 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9624 @ 0.0005133 = 4.94 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20029 @ 0.0005133 = 10.2809 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00051278 = 2.6352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00051164 = 4.4769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1778 @ 0.00050978 = 0.9064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 481 @ 0.00327384 = 1.5747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1024 @ 0.00325533 = 3.3335 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1404 @ 0.00324728 = 4.5592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7291 @ 0.00051536 = 3.7575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00050978 = 5.0071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00050899 = 1.0943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3970 @ 0.00050861 = 2.0192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00050841 = 2.449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00050841 = 5.262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00050725 = 2.2649 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9835 @ 0.00050718 = 4.9881 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14464 @ 0.00051249 = 7.4127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 627 @ 0.0033435 = 2.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.0033437 = 2.9191 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 686 @ 0.00051605 = 0.354 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.0005082 = 6.0984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3161 @ 0.00050718 = 1.6032 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2004 @ 0.00050718 = 1.0164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6096 @ 0.00050708 = 3.0912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.0033437 = 0.1337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00334569 = 5.6877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00051022 = 10.8167 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8815 @ 0.00050708 = 4.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00051751 = 4.5541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00052054 = 2.6027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052701 = 2.3715 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052685 = 2.2765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3478 @ 0.00052701 = 1.8329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13569 @ 0.00052724 = 7.1541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00335574 = 5.8725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00050745 = 3.8566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050718 = 2.1915 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4691 @ 0.00050708 = 2.3787 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052498 = 2.2684 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5703 @ 0.00052473 = 2.9925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00052243 = 1.2277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1826 @ 0.00052111 = 0.9515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15974 @ 0.00052111 = 8.3242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052069 = 2.1348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20226 @ 0.0005181 = 10.4791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052194 = 2.2553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26541 @ 0.00052197 = 13.8536 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6938 @ 0.0005271 = 3.657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051835 = 2.2398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.0005181 = 0.2482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052146 = 2.2532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00052147 = 10.7944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00052384 = 1.3882 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00052384 = 1.1153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252 @ 0.0005181 = 0.1306 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00051778 = 12.0643 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00051742 = 2.7423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18010 @ 0.00051555 = 9.2851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005158 = 2.2288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11872 @ 0.00051555 = 6.1206 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052706 = 2.2774 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4890 @ 0.0005271 = 2.5775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37782 @ 0.00052724 = 19.9202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12207 @ 0.00052725 = 6.4361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00052579 = 0.6835 BTC [-]
mod6: Blue Horseshoe loves Anacott Steel.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052702 = 2.2773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11043 @ 0.00052725 = 5.8224 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10389 @ 0.00052728 = 5.4779 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052709 = 2.2776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11657 @ 0.00052728 = 6.1465 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2022 @ 0.00052737 = 1.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3278 @ 0.00052737 = 1.7287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.0005275 = 2.1744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.00052579 = 1.5884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13504 @ 0.00052575 = 7.0997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052588 = 1.9458 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052725 = 2.2782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22178 @ 0.0005275 = 11.6989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5501 @ 0.00052775 = 2.9032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00052588 = 0.3266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.00052575 = 5.5093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052743 = 2.279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10753 @ 0.00052775 = 5.6749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4296 @ 0.00052775 = 2.2672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17295 @ 0.00052793 = 9.1305 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9809 @ 0.00052841 = 5.1832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052588 = 2.2723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00052575 = 2.7428 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11662 @ 0.00052537 = 6.1269 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052835 = 2.283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16325 @ 0.0005284 = 8.6261 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052557 = 4.6513 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4325 @ 0.00052537 = 2.2722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2091 @ 0.00052841 = 1.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9609 @ 0.00052848 = 5.0782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10991 @ 0.00052848 = 5.8085 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3509 @ 0.00052848 = 1.8544 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16812 @ 0.00052848 = 8.8848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00052859 = 10.0696 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00052877 = 2.8289 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27488 @ 0.00052903 = 14.542 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005257 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052554 = 2.2709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5958 @ 0.00052537 = 3.1302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052567 = 2.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4555 @ 0.00052537 = 2.3931 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00052268 = 3.7063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4933 @ 0.00051758 = 2.5532 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4417 @ 0.00051758 = 2.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5533 @ 0.00051555 = 2.8525 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe.
jcpham: who had the cufflinks again?
jcpham: i remember those but forgot about them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052744 = 2.2791 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20079 @ 0.00052779 = 10.5975 BTC [+]
jcpham: yeah it was a forum thread
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051834 = 2.2397 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15672 @ 0.00051811 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25107 @ 0.00051651 = 12.968 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00051651 = 6.4564 BTC [-]
smickles: 17:31 < mircea_popescu> ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe. <<< lolwut?
smickles: heh, what caused you to make that statement
smickles: kakobreklaaa: cut a hole in the sleeve of your t-shirt
mircea_popescu: smickles namjies was asking if it's mpoe that puts the 1k bids on options
smickles: ya know, come to think of it, it's not that directly obvious, is is?
kakobreklaaa: mircea_popescu did you get some physical from the guy whos name is unspellable?
smickles: kakobreklaaa: Mike Caldwell is unspellable?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052776 = 2.2805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33188 @ 0.00052779 = 17.5163 BTC [+]
jcpham: i'm ADHD so that may not apply
jcpham: basically jengix's conference vidoe
jcpham: the original source coul've been subbed freely
jcpham: oh nevermind it isn't free
mircea_popescu: "PSPs are allowed to hold fiat currency on behalf of third-parties and offer payment services, it's exactly what a bank does, minus the issuing of credit."
mircea_popescu: my cock is exactly like a cunt minus the bleeding thing
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jurov: all bondholders get the part of loss based on their investment, right?
jurov: then, they have no incentive to lower the requested interest
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052881 = 2.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22029 @ 0.00052903 = 11.654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052901 = 2.2859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6319 @ 0.00052903 = 3.3429 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: their incentive is that if someone asks for less that someone gets paid and they get nothing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1403 @ 0.00335574 = 4.7081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00334751 = 10.0425 BTC [-]
jurov: while potential reward is depending on requested interest, the risk is not. so it makes sense to maximize potential reward
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052812 = 2.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11929 @ 0.00052793 = 6.2977 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: potential reward is = to the highest interest someone asks, for everybody.
jurov: plus the demand for bonds is consistently higher than supply, this is the catch
mircea_popescu: so the actual self-interest is to ask for 0% and hope someone else asks for 100% or w/e
mircea_popescu: the demand is actually consistently less than the suppluy.
mircea_popescu: november was the first time in like half a year that the demand overstripped supply.\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052812 = 2.282 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13479 @ 0.00052793 = 7.116 BTC [-]
kakobreklaaa: on a side note, i had a surge of new bitcoin forex accounts and 90% of the people never used bitcoin before
jurov: i see it as a gamble, you either receive the interest, or lose exactly the same part as other players
jurov: well it's true it needs more exact research... i'll maybe put it into spreadsheet over historical data what would happen if i had lowest vs. highest bond rate
mircea_popescu: it's pretty simple tho : if you had 0% rate you would always be included, and receive whatever's paid, 4%, 9%, 9.9% etcv
mircea_popescu: if you asked for 9.9% you'd be included in november but not in august, sept oct etc
mircea_popescu: this mathematically converges to the actual true rate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052898 = 2.2857 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00052903 = 3.4371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6132 @ 0.00052922 = 3.2452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005292 = 2.2867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00052922 = 0.5181 BTC [+]
kakobreklaaa: Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions.
jurov: yeah, the more people mix into it, the better
kakobreklaaa: dunno, id rather see bfl keeps its shit for themselfs, with the rest im not bothered
jcpham: is Coin Publishing LLC a MNW umbrella organization?
jcpham: and is Dr. Evil a charter member?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005281 = 2.2819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19879 @ 0.00052793 = 10.4947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052804 = 2.2817 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00052793 = 3.3413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1075 @ 0.00052793 = 0.5675 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29925 @ 0.0005248 = 15.7046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052504 = 2.2687 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14930 @ 0.0005248 = 7.8353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2149 @ 0.00052193 = 1.1216 BTC [-]
dub: forums getting dawsed again?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00052232 = 5.4844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00052193 = 7.9855 BTC [-]
dub: giga bought into bitcoin magazine?
dub: dude is losing the plot
dub: Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions.
dub: kakobrekla: in that list he is the only dissapointment
dub: as in, he wasn't previously in my assclown list
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052832 = 2.2829 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00052843 = 6.2244 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: isn't 20 mission the thing tradehill people (mckenna et co) made with the money they stole off customers ?
kakobrekla: 20:24.15 ( kakobreklaaa ) dunno, id rather see bfl keeps its shit for themselfs, with the rest im not bothered
kakobrekla: 20:24.34 ( kakobreklaaa ) and 20 missions?
kakobrekla: 20:24.39 ( mircea_popescu ) is that vps giga's thing ?
kakobrekla: 20:24.39 ( kakobreklaaa ) isnt that in default or smth
dub: google is clearly the great satan
dub: casascius is a moron apologist
kakobrekla: so they sold a share to a janitor at google
dub: yeah thats a funny inclusion
dub: 'google was involved in this deal'
dub: gigavps: please tell us that your janitor invested not gigacorp
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052199 = 2.2555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4349 @ 0.00052193 = 2.2699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23098 @ 0.00052057 = 12.0241 BTC [-]
dub: so anyone know if vlad and the resit of the cryptoanarchy in the UK set are still involved?
dub: in that case it might be for the best
dub: if I see another guy fawkes mask on that shit im going to be evben butthurter
Ukto: anyone hold any shares of Cognative ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9553 @ 0.00052057 = 4.973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00052025 = 2.7298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10853 @ 0.00052025 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16264 @ 0.00051887 = 8.4389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00052276 = 0.7841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00052935 = 4.076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00052939 = 7.3585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00052276 = 0.1678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2479 @ 0.00051343 = 1.2728 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 440 @ 0.00335242 = 1.4751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1842 @ 0.00051343 = 0.9457 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20732 @ 0.00051325 = 10.6407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00052923 = 2.1963 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I should get some sort of award manufactured
Diablo-D3: some sort of giant gold plated popped popcorn kernel
Ukto: wasnt that last time too?
Diablo-D3: and lying about the continued state of lying and shippingness
Ukto: not sure why. as if they lied.. and didnt ship
Diablo-D3: infact I find the whole thing hilarious
Diablo-D3: Im the only voice of reason most of the time
Ukto: i couldnt make the kidna risk that bfl required
Ukto: to ??? get your product
Namjies: Making manual payments to BTC-BOND/KRAKEN holders for the last weeks and repurchase.
Namjies: Got to send them a customized email stating from which address I sent it so they know it's from me and for what since GLBSE payout address is shared.
Namjies: As well as remove them from the mailing list and update spreadsheets.
Namjies: On top of calculating what to pay to each of them.
Ukto: thats why a claim system is nicer
Ukto: even if your shutting down
Namjies: Major pain and error prone.
Ukto: >,> .. just being honest, not necessarily plugging
Namjies: I use a spreadsheet to track claims against the list. Once people confirm, I consider shares claimed.
Ukto: great thing about the claim system, is when you pay divvies, it pays them out to holders, and to claims pending
Ukto: so you dont have to track divs for unclaimed shares
Ukto: but you can go in and update/change it at any time
Ukto: "manage" the claims even
Ukto: so if you buy someone out, you can just mark a claim as claimed and close it
Ukto: if I can help someone out, thats the idea. off of something thats just being shut down I dont make anything.
Ukto: Would just rather see the site be usefull in someway to someone
Namjies: I only hope one thing... that google drive doesn't fail me and lose the spreadsheets
Ukto: shouldnt.. backup just in case
Namjies: I'd have to track back all paid out people from payments I sent out.
Namjies: I already have google drive program backing to my PC.
Namjies: Should be fine and at worst, I can see all the payments in the blockchain sent from my personal address.
Ukto: just keep a copy iand you wont have to worry abou tit
Namjies: Too much work, I'd have to make a copy whenever I update the spreadsheets.
Namjies: There's already the payment sent out on the blockchain as fallback data.
Namjies: My BTC address and GLBSE associated address are easy to check for transactions.
Namjies: You never know when the 1 every 10 year total failure in a Google service might occur.
Diablo-D3: they just have content on multiple continents concurrently
Namjies: If the redundancy works, it's not a failure...
Namjies: Which is the whole point of redundant systems...
Diablo-D3: failures happen all the time, its how they ahndles it that matters
Namjies: Yes, failure of specific hardware. But the system as a whole keeps functioning and as such didn't fail.
Namjies: Well damn. A good chunk done.
Diablo-D3: I should write a perl script to process these
Diablo-D3: but the whole thing of opening an editor just to put like 3 lines in it? meh
Namjies: I just copy-paste address, email, shares
Diablo-D3: I just wanna see the accuracy of his statements
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4008 @ 0.00052943 = 2.122 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <Diablo-D3> and lying about the continued state of lying and shippingness <<< theyre the bitcoin flagship corp, neh ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: something like that
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2487 @ 0.00335868 = 8.353 BTC [+]
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mircea_popescu: for i got lost reading in there for about an hour, that' for!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00053078 = 2.6539 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12258 @ 0.00053118 = 6.5112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44922 @ 0.00053122 = 23.8635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00053127 = 4.6752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46588 @ 0.00053134 = 24.7541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16798544 = 167.9854 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.13806513 = 138.0651 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.10442777 = 104.4278 BTC [+]
Namjies: No idea but that seems like a bad move to me
mircea_popescu: if it ends up over 16 those c140t lose money for sure.
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EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: now he knows where the clit is ... lol
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EskimoBob: I was reading this drama "F.GIGA.ETF to be delisted on December 1st, 2012". mircea_popescu, looks like you pulled a glbse trick on your clients.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: how does it feel to mimic your greatest "enemy" :)
Diablo-D3: HE CANT HEAR YOU OVER HOW BLOATED HIS WALLET IS
EskimoBob: wallet? I think it's his head, that's bloated.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.00053173 = 0.4919 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00053173 = 8.6672 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00053173 = 6.4228 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: JWU42, how do you compensate shareholders, buyback at 0.06 is reasonable
PsychoticBoy: or is that shitty I dont want to pay back shareholders idea comming from your scammy partners
jcpham: PsychoticBoy: JWU42 contacted me to remind me of my shares
PsychoticBoy: but never said anything abot buyback or dividend which both must be paid
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24621 @ 0.0005286 = 13.0147 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: I got the idea that most BIG glbse players such as YABMC (JWU42 and scammy friends) and GIGAMINING (gigavps) do not intent to pay
PsychoticBoy: and they were the ones cashing in big time, our money
jcpham: it's pretty easy to point at other people and call them scammers after you give them your bitcoins
jcpham: resolving the matter privately, amicably; that's difficult
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21965 @ 0.000527 = 11.5756 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: 2 are continuing on another exchange and 1 has a good buyback so....... this is not difficult to deal with
EskimoBob: so, gigavps has earned his scammer tag finally?
jcpham: damn giga you scammin still?
Azelphur: gigascammer, one billion scams :p
jcpham: gigavps these gpus I bought a year ago were not as described
gigavps: no problem jcpham, talk with my lawyer
jcpham: we aren't friends anymore
EskimoBob: who is your lawyer? What's his name?
gigavps: EskimoBob, for someone who is on the internet a lot, you sure have trouble finding information
EskimoBob: what's your name? Mister "all so fkn legal" now
EskimoBob: gigavps: is it possible, that I have better thing to do?
gigavps: guess not, your sitting here talking with me
EskimoBob: than dox your hairy scammer ass...
jcpham: 10btc I spill all the beans
jcpham: I'll tell you what I know about trendon too
EskimoBob: looks like mircea has pulled a "glbse" on his super duper exchange and fucked all the pt holders
EskimoBob: was'nt he establishing some type of a court or some other shit for justice?
EskimoBob: can he be the first client of his own court? LOL
jurov: what "glbse"? weren't you warned well in advance?
EskimoBob: fuck your toy court and every ass hat judge there :) LOL
Ukto: I saw your posts on the forums (just recently started looking at them) and knew I recognized it
gigavps: EskimoBob has a special language he uses when posting on the forums
EskimoBob: what post? the left one or the one on the right side?
jcpham: you can call me an asshat, but calling it a toy-court and implting that i'm not impartial is incorrect
jcpham: you should know your place EskimoBob
gigavps: it's a mix between angry and incoherent
Ukto: the mods whitelisted me.. but I still cant post for some reason. lol
Ukto: I can pm ppl at least
Ukto: EskimoBob: you know where you live?
Ukto: then you know your place? :P
EskimoBob: so how is this toy court going to work?
jcpham: i imagine with mircea_popescu though stripper will be involvewd
Ukto: thats 2 diff ppl making an MP + stripper reference around me in 24hrs
EskimoBob: so it's just another virtual circle jerk?
EskimoBob: Ukto: you see, mircea is old and ugly and only way he gets any is if he pays
jcpham: you see, I don't know, so I'm just joking around
jcpham: like i don't have some fucking attitude problem
Ukto: although, I was reading hte post guruvan vs mpoe-pr... reeses made a point that if a normal stock was delisted, its value is generally trashed for the reason it was delisted.. but in this case.. the stock/s were not "delisted" for reasons of financial stability.. thus, if a stock like AAPL (exmaple) were delistd due to the xchange shutting down, it still has value, right?
jcpham: i saw a triple rainbow
pigeons: why do birds suddenly appear, evertime you are near
EskimoBob: triple? damn I have seen this only once
jurov: if f.giga.etf is supposed to have some value, why nobody asked mircea to arrange buyback on december 1st?
jcpham: go home rainbow, you are drunk
Ukto: jurov: as of now, MP is of the opionion it has no value
Ukto: since it was delisted
Ukto: regardless of the reason for delisting
jcpham: what exactly was f.giga.etf
Ukto: and he doesnt believe he should have to submit his claim to gigavps, thus will not
jcpham: who was the asset issuer, step one
EskimoBob: delisted usually never equals "no value"
Ukto: he bought shares of giga from giga direct? or on glbse
Ukto: and re-posted them on Mpex
jcpham: so MP was the asset issuer of f.giga.etf
jcpham: and what was the function of it
EskimoBob: sold this shit to others and now tells everyone, it has no value (and deletes the security) :)
EskimoBob: hold on, i have seen this before! GLBSE!
jcpham: you guys are all scandalous
Ukto: I have only stated non scanalous things
Ukto: I am just trying to est. real world happenings vs "financially uneducated" as "mpoe-pr" is calling everyone
Ukto: A. MP/OE states that stocks were delisted from glbse, and therefore worthless. Thats the real financial market. However, if NYSE shuts down, MSFT shares are not worthless.
Ukto: B. Acting as a passthrough for shares to giga, means to buy/sell, and claim when need be.
EskimoBob: Ukto: she is a not as smatr as she thinks.
Ukto: though I guess no where MP laid out any responsibilities to do such
jcpham: well it seems to me that f.giga.etf totally depends on data from glbse
jcpham: measured, tracked, statistical data
EskimoBob: ans she has some serious attitude problems. She ws involved in some spamming scams etc
Ukto: so it oculd fall on the shareholders shoulders for not requiring a "detailed contract" from MP of responsibilities
jcpham: which doesn't exist or may not
Ukto: gigavps: was your asset backed by hardware ?
Ukto: i could look it up but I think your here :P
pigeons: well it was backed by hashes
Ukto: pigeons: some ppl say that worst case scenario the would sell hardware to take care of shareholders, since thats where the btc was spent
pigeons: the contract was you get the proceeds of 5 mhash per share
pigeons: and he intends to continue despite being glbsed
Ukto: i thoguht he was just closing ?
Ukto: that means that the claims woudl earn the passthrough fund dividends
Ukto: and regardless of glbse going down
Ukto: those share values on the passthrough should remain
Ukto: and remain tradeable
Ukto: giga has to actually do his part
pigeons: well mircea_popescu claims that "he always stated" that he intended the passthrough to be zero work/maintenance
Ukto: and MP has to do his part on behalf of the PT
jcpham: i see everything you guys are saying but isn't it a huge pain in the ass for MP to operate his etf without any information
jcpham: might as well just pause it or shut it down entirely
pigeons: MP did shut the passthrough down entirely
Ukto: jcpham: my view, is that as long as the shares receive dividends, and he can distribute those to the share holders on the mpex list, then its full tradeable w/ value on mpex. no information on GLBSE is required to operate/maintain the passthrough fund. price at glbse does not matter, since it trades at its ownprice on MPEX.
Ukto: so neither market value, depth, or histroy on GLBSE have anything to do with an asset on MPEX
Ukto: unless I missed something
Ukto: and if gigia is just paying out divs
pigeons: with glbse gone MP doesnt get the dividends to pass through anymore
Ukto: pigeons: but he plans to pay out the divs, to those who claim
Ukto: as if GLBSE was still in place
pigeons: giga does, MP does not plan to claim
jcpham: i don't like this idea of a passthrough
jcpham: i never participated in anything like it
pigeons: MP says that making claims was not part of the deal
Ukto: it put responsibility on MP
Ukto: pigeons: i have not seen the contract, i dont think. but he may be partially correct
Ukto: if MP never promised to 'care for' the the passthrough
Ukto: "it is what it is, good luck" type of thing
jcpham: and that is what it seems to me
pigeons: he did make public statements that he would not do any further work other than paying dividends
Ukto: thats the investors fault I think
Ukto: for trusting MP to do what they think is the right hting
Ukto: without a written out obligation
Ukto: pigeons: he removed all records of the asset from accounts though, is my udnerstanding
Ukto: how could he payout divs?
pigeons: i mean before the glbse closure
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Ukto: yeah, he suggested I do a passthough of mpex on Bitfunder.. i think I will def. avoid it now
Ukto: jsut because I dont want to end up in a similar situation
Ukto: not that I would have a hard time spending a little effort to make shareholders "Customer" happy
Ukto: even if its ot required
Ukto: i think more effort would go into fighting it anyways
pigeons: yeah i figured originally i would have an easier time getting GIGA divdends from MP than from nefario if GLBSE went south, and I was wrong, but oh well
pigeons: about a month ago MP made it clear this is what would happen and so i sold the rest
Ukto: regardless, just because he may not feel, because it is not written down, that he has an obligation to the shareholders to "try" to take care of them, does not mean that people do not have the right to issue a scammer tag, for not "Trying", since he did not explicitly write that he woudl NOT adminitrate the account beyhond divs. (unless he did?)
Ukto: *ignore mass mispells
Ukto: btw, anyone had contact with tcatm in the last 12 weeks he dissapeared from irc?
Ukto: I tried emailing him a few times, and no response et all :/
Ukto: oh pigeons: while we are such an upbeat news for asset exchanges..
Ukto: any thoughts for bitfunder? :P
Ukto: Other than "please dont screw the customers" ?
EskimoBob: talked to nefario. Some retard is calling him every day and is leaving really ugly messages to his voice mail. Who ever you are, you are not helping at all. Damn fuckwits
pigeons: no i dont have a lot of thoughts right now
pigeons: hahah i would have thought it was you Bob
Ukto: prolly that kid from china
PsychoticBoy: I am also going to rent a ¨WALL¨ around me :D hehe seems to work
PsychoticBoy: Ukto, how it stands, for now, ppl would like to see me move to bitfunder
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Ukto: been going back and fourth on a final decision on microtime
Ukto: hehe thanks kako :)
Ukto: though i never saw the habelockinvestments.com url before since it goes off of my window lol
Ukto: i have an AI field for the trades that has no particular purpose since the system uses its own trade txn id. was debating using that
Ukto: but one of my biggest security bugs, is I don't like giving any information that cold tie anything directly from the outside world to the db
Ukto: well, the id is used internally to reference the txn id
Ukto: not "bugs" but, things that bug me
Ukto: yeah, tweet/json trades
Ukto: think I will just put a microtime field on
Ukto: for security reasons, I just dont feel like showing those numbers to the public hehe
EskimoBob: "pigeons | hahah i would have thought it was you Bob " - LOL :) I do not do crap like that.
Ukto: then again, if someone has the time/microtime, it wouldnt be hard to locate the record anyways in teh table if that was the point
Ukto: just my design musings outloud. :)
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mircea_popescu: <jurov> if f.giga.etf is supposed to have some value, why nobody asked mircea to arrange buyback on december 1st? << why did it trade 3 days out of 30 for the 30 days BEFORE the announcement moreover.
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> he bought shares of giga from giga direct? or on glbse << i bought bonds before the glbse ipo. they were transformed into glbse shares when giga decided later to put up with nefario's bs. i didn't want to, but i didn't make a huge point out of it either because at the time nefario hadn't yet quite shown himself for the huge cock he was/i didn't know better.
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> well mircea_popescu claims that "he always stated" that he intended the passthrough to be zero work/maintenance << should i quote ?
Ukto: but were your shares listed within glbse?
Ukto: and 'assigned' to you?
Ukto: or were those outside of/beyond ?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11825 @ 0.00053182 = 6.2888 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> pigeons: he removed all records of the asset from accounts though, is my udnerstanding << you srsly should read that 3 hour discussion. the shares were removed from current holdings. all historical info is still there, and also here, on the twitter feed, etc.
Ukto: i.e. was giga paying you divs seperately ?
Ukto: then I was very wrong. :)
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> yeah i figured originally i would have an easier time getting GIGA divdends from MP than from nefario if GLBSE went south << this would be true. however, glbse going south + giga going taxid/etc is a different story.
Ukto: good morning mr giga :P
gigavps: maybe you could explain a bit further
Ukto: guess it is afternoon now isnt it
mircea_popescu: it seemed logical at the time, simplify everyone's maintenance of it.
gigavps: some parts of the world ;)
mircea_popescu: also, it seemed friendlier to smalltimers, as in, not have to require minimum x hundred btc investment.
mircea_popescu: the problem with being friendly to small timers is that then you end up stuck with a horde of very silly people.
Ukto: so basically, it boils down to, you did the passthrough, told everyone you had 0 plans to do anything that requires any actual time or effort, good luck have fun. now shit hit the fan, and your sticking to what your siad since gigavps wants tax docs/id etc that you never agreed to provide should they be requested. right?
Ukto: regardless of any potential share value
mircea_popescu: well, not regardless. if the stuff giga does ends up having a value in fact
Ukto: and gigavps, I take it, your stuck not able to give out anything unless mircea_popescu provides said documentation right?
Ukto: then it is a stalemate.
mircea_popescu: giga finally is done with his process sometime. say january.
mircea_popescu: etf guy emails me going listen! i had 1000 etf shares. giga paid 0.15 btc! I should get something!
Ukto: people can bitch and whine at mp ALL they want, but if it was made clear that he had no responsibility to do any effort towrads the actual shares, then its up to thsoe people to seek whatever based on their own views. end of story
Ukto: mircea_popescu: what if gigavps begins normal div payouts regularly?
Ukto: and you havent 'claimed' ?
Ukto: would you continue to pay out divs out of your pocket?
mircea_popescu: alternatively, guy goes "here's a signed statement of no further claims, pay me X". if x is reasonable he'll also get it.
mircea_popescu: all this is very fucking c ommon and veryfucking sane, except for people that really have no idea howfinance works.
Ukto: and people blowing up and loosing their mind and getting attiudes
mircea_popescu: Ukto i doubt it makes much sense for giga to pay dividends "normally". i would expect he makes some sort of final settlement.
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mircea_popescu: i don't intend to make any more than one payment to claimants, which'd be final and negotiated.
Ukto: gigavps: you were planning to shut down, right? someone mentioend earlier you wanted to continue? But that did nto soudn right to me
mircea_popescu: it's impractical to keep fiddling with the shit forever.
gigavps: Ukto if i was going to shut down, i wouldn't be going through all of this mess
gigavps: mircea_popescu we don't have to worry about that because i'm NOT SHUTTING DOWN
mircea_popescu: i thought the entire problem was you didn't have a way to identify owners that's reliable
Ukto: so he plans to contiune (at some point) to pay dividends and get back to business as usual
gigavps: is the US, it is mandatory to keep records of who you are doing business with
Ukto: see what happens when we talk things through? :)
mircea_popescu: you seriously are going to be paying weekly btc after your claims are complete ?!
gigavps: wtf did you think i was going to do
Ukto: no, but sometimes a 3rd person helps alot
Ukto: (if that person is trying to work things out.)
mircea_popescu: gigavps da fuck. won't that even cost more than the payments to administer ?!
mircea_popescu: i thought you'll go here is a final payment offer, lala.
Ukto: yes, hes trying to do it as "right" as possible
Ukto: even if it costs outof his pocket
jcpham: so legit he hurts himself
Ukto: thats been the whoel odeal that ppl have been confused on I think
gigavps: well, maybe you should ask me what i'm doing
gigavps: instead of deciding for me in your head
Ukto: gigavps: well, now that things are working out, lets play nice :P
mircea_popescu: gigavps i did notice you never actualyl said what you were doing with the claims once complete, so i figure it's because it's the obvious thing
Ukto: lets not start a new fued :P
jcpham: sounds like a classic communication breakdown
Ukto: now _everyone_ can take teh knifes off of everyones throats, and relax a bit
gigavps: my wife does say that my style of communication is to offer less and wait for questions
gigavps: i'm not really fond of people who can talk for days on end....
Ukto: hey, if I can help someone with my annoyance, so be it :P
gigavps: mircea_popescu i'm writing the software to handle this now....
mircea_popescu: but wtf i mean suppose someone sends notice of non payment
jcpham: gigavps: use notepad.exe
mircea_popescu: now that you're all in written form. what do you do, explain the court that you in fact DID pay
gigavps: but i use sublime text for the most part
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1101 @ 0.00331829 = 3.6534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2099 @ 0.0033 = 6.9267 BTC [-]
Ukto: just use excel to store all your data and track it
gigavps: mircea_popescu the contract is for bitcoins, that is not changing
Ukto: heh, apples filemaker pro :P
jcpham: multi-user access database
jcpham: I'm not really going to be happy about bitcoin until I have the balling asics
jcpham: gpu mining is for the birds
jcpham: thank god for the shares i have left at coinlab
Ukto: i turned my gpu off a few days ago
Ukto: thinking about putting it on ltc for amusement
Ukto: jcpham: how did you get all those shares at coinlab ? >:P
jcpham: i gamed the shit out of their PPS
jcpham: i think i got the whole hour of 199%
jcpham: hashpower.com is sortof like gpumax.com
jcpham: in that you can buy other people's rigs for the highest price
jcpham: so if I can buy at 115% and mine ona pool paying 120%
jcpham: coinlab is lucky they came around after gpumax
Ukto: you mean, you are lucky? :P
Ukto: or that they get to pay you more?
jcpham: if hashpower was 1TH/s
jcpham: probably break their pool though
Ukto: it might soon enough
Ukto: working on vardiff atm
Ukto: also, weex no longer requires invites. :)
Ukto: its now open-beta lol
jcpham: hashpower->weex->my wallet is instant btw
Ukto: and weex min withdraw is 0.1btc now
Ukto: I will prolly setup a btc auto-withdraw thing for both HP and weex at somepoint.
Ukto: might be an xmas gift
jcpham: then i could forget about my miners
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12979 @ 0.000527 = 6.8399 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: So, didn't you really know that gigavps would be continuing payments?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052718 = 2.2779 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28329 @ 0.000527 = 14.9294 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: Well, I knew it, that's way I was still interested...
gigavps: i'm not sure why i would be paying all of this money if i didn't want to continue. but i digress
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli gimme a quote ? it's possible girl might have missed it.
rdponticelli: I wouldn't bother for 8 or 9 btc, but it's the link that's worthwhile
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli what we do, even if for 8 or 9 btc, has the value of creating precedent
mircea_popescu: so in general it's worth arguing things to their ends.
rdponticelli: mircea_popescu: I would have to search for the quote...
rdponticelli: But I clearly understood the continuity from what I gathered from the thread...
mircea_popescu: well mind you, what you understood and what it says may be different things.
rdponticelli: Yeah, may be, but everybody else seems to have understood the same
rdponticelli: It's that's so difficult to filter out the shit on that forum...
mircea_popescu: im just agreeing lol. srsly, wouldn't surprise me if the girl missed out something, jsut on sheer volume
jurov: mircea_popescu, all my mpex commands time out :S
jurov: other can do STAT without problem?
mircea_popescu: yeah. was like... tech picked up, person said hi tech said "it's back"
jurov: my bots finally DOSed it :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 25121 @ 0.00300001 = 75.3633 BTC [-]
smickles: ok, s²cm begins paying out as soonits machine syncs with the blockchain
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00052885 = 1.6923 BTC [+]
smickles: Bugpowder: a former glbse asset
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.10186609 = 101.8661 BTC [-]
jcpham: yeah Azelphur you should hurry
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.13567008 = 135.6701 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.16560208 = 165.6021 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles for my curiosity, what repay scheme do you use ? everyone who claims % equal to what you have liquid + settlement/final payment once 100% liquidates ?
smickles: yeah, since we have not liquidate 100% of the assets yet, everyone gets an equal share of btc on hand, then an equal share of the btc from each sale as they occur
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: this cunt you hired to do your PR is kinda stupid. Possibly both of you are clueless and she is the fool who is just posting that nonsense you have told her to write
smickles: er, equal share, being their proportion according to how many shares they had
mircea_popescu: lmao. you are trying to hide behind the skirts of MY pr ?
jcpham: i think she's abrasive too mircea, put a muzzel on her
EskimoBob: jcpham: she is just perfect for mircea_popescu
mod6: i actually like how she drops the hammer on people on btctalk
jcpham: i used the word abrasive
jcpham: which isn't *that* bad
mod6: If i was on there, I would +1 many posts.
smickles: abrasives are good, acetone, for instance, is greate at removing nail polish
Ukto: i already have 1 bride, dont need more
EskimoBob: Ukto: you do not want that sociopath :)
EskimoBob: fuck you and your rota, mircea_popescu. Honestly
EskimoBob: at the rate you are going right now, you are probably the first asshole in front of that toy court
jcpham: toning down on the condescending remarks would help boobs mcghee
jcpham: i doubt she needs friends though
Ukto: whats the diference between a # and a @ on twatter?
smickles: EskimoBob: I'd like to thank you for causing me to be quoted so often :)
jcpham: hashtags are like subject links
Ukto: jcpham: thanks capt, obvious
Ukto: so I would create a channel ?
jcpham: so #ukto in every tweet
jcpham: would make it easy to search for you
jcpham: or anyone talking about you
Ukto: mircea_popescu: for bitfunder
mircea_popescu: 1`000 O.BTCUSD.C120T @ 0.16560208BTC = 165.60208000BTC (= 2`200.85 USD). 20 #trade #bitcoin #btc #options
Bugpowder: twitter is an excellent professional tool
jcpham: every few months i log in and respong to smickles
Bugpowder: its the ultimate customized newsfeed, with real itme
EskimoBob: Bugpowder: there is nothing professional about twatter
Bugpowder: great for marketing people, tech people
mircea_popescu: i had a pretty large following, never quite saw the usefulness of it.
EskimoBob: sure, if you believe in 140 char drivel and # tags. No thanks
Bugpowder: The usefulness is not from who follows you so much as the quality of who you follow
jcpham: twitter is about information
jcpham: but it stresses me way out
mircea_popescu: but a year or two ago i used to be active. i guess its great if you're trying to hook up
Bugpowder: basically my twitter feed is a stream of a bunch of interesting links to things I care about, sprinkled with snarky commentary
Bugpowder: In the last year, serious science people have really gotten on board
Bugpowder: this allows you to have a dialogue with important people in your field and others you are interested in
mircea_popescu: honestly, i much prefer irc. just the logging alone. twitter sucks for looking in the history.
mircea_popescu: and im a history-type. even newspapers, i buy today, read in 6 months. or a year.
Bugpowder: yeah but IRC is limited in the scope and is a timesuck
smickles: mircea_popescu: twiter is like rss, but shit
Bugpowder: is a reasonable comparison, but its not shit.
Bugpowder: its much better than rss, because the links are screened by real people for content quality
Bugpowder: as long as you follow people that don't post stupid shit
pigeons: what is mpex hosted on a bitvps now or something?
Bugpowder: ANyway, I like it and find it useful.
pigeons: oh i guess not since it came back up quickly
smickles: it's like how facebook is like having your own website, but shit
mircea_popescu: smickles i guess if he has a tight knit circle and they use it, its as good as the circle
mircea_popescu: pigeons in its defense, it's the first time it was down in like six months.
Bugpowder: facebook is for friends and bullshit
smickles: pigeons: huh, bitvps went down? i'm irsiing from a bitvps server
jcpham: pigeons has jokes smickles
mircea_popescu: he saw mpex being down in the backlog and wet his pants. then saw it came back up. stuck with sticky fluid on loins.
jcpham: where the fuck are you from mircea_popescu
jcpham: are you telling me Frineds isn't playing every weeknight on TBS in .ro?
mircea_popescu: jcpham man, my only exposure to it was the one time i was picking up this chick. i was with some other dude, she was with like 3-4 friends of hers. and they were watching... you guessed it...
mircea_popescu: so this other guy pointed out that show'd be great to watch when they're all like 48 or something.
jcpham: so is chandler and ross and rachel
mircea_popescu: oh come on. unattractive old chicks and losery douches hanging around and kevetching ?
jcpham: i don't remember the rest
jcpham: some of them fucked each other too
jcpham: but not while the show is running
mircea_popescu: i think the show where they fuck is a different format
jcpham: i don't want to see that show
jcpham: unless they are given drugs and weapons also
jurov: serious clicktivism or what
jurov: *downvotes everything*
mircea_popescu: basically, some geeky/nerdy/internet types found btc first. finance types found it second, are marginalising them and it hurts.
pigeons: usagi is a licensed bank in japan
jurov: yeah. and there's some banks livensed in nigeria on #bitcoin-otc
Namjies: Bitcoin is not becoming a bank... a minor bitcoin exchange is turning into... something.
Namjies: That doesn't, in itself, forces anything unto bitcoins.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5053 @ 0.00052796 = 2.6678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052702 = 2.2773 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6476 @ 0.000527 = 3.4129 BTC [-]
Namjies: hmm, writer in this case, not anchor
Namjies: I didn't know Bitcoin had staffers or official representation. Or that the bitcoin network would now support bank transfers thanks to this bby becoming a registered payment service provider!
mircea_popescu: Namjies it just goes to show the general population has not the first clue as to wtf is going on.
mircea_popescu: it's real bad, show them a goose they swear they've seen a shoebox sorta thing.
Namjies: No, the general population has no clue as to how news are mostly rumors, not even researched facts.
Namjies: They vaguely correlate with an actual event. How much it does is never known.
jcpham: weak wallet screenshot
mircea_popescu: that is
https becoming an isp quote is really on point. wtf they know, random strings.
jcpham: better wallet screenshot. inspires confidence
Namjies: nope... I can read "and there's some banks livensed in nigeria on #bitcoin-otc" on it.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30220 @ 0.00053122 = 16.0535 BTC [+]
Namjies: Doesn't inspire confidence
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18588 @ 0.00053122 = 9.8743 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12975 @ 0.00053182 = 6.9004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9737 @ 0.00053198 = 5.1799 BTC [+]
smickles: i'd screenshot my wallet if I din't mostly use raw transactions now
jcpham: i can't wait until i hit 1000 txns
smickles: i'm going to start playing around with multisig soon too *squee*
mircea_popescu: and smickles you can get a gui wallet up to display any wallet.dat you wish.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.000527 = 8.3003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10005 @ 0.00053198 = 5.3225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00053209 = 4.6292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43084 @ 0.00053214 = 22.9267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6911 @ 0.00053214 = 3.6776 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Subscriptions require a PayPal account, but there is an option pay annually (non-recurring) where you can just use credit/debit card, without a PayPal account. Get in touch for details.
pigeons: yeah, i see coinbase on there, which i haven't tried, not a big hosted wallet fan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053185 = 2.2981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15416 @ 0.00053214 = 8.2035 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052728 = 2.2784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10129 @ 0.000527 = 5.338 BTC [-]
Ukto: Once I get the new logo I need to stick it up
smickles: lol, google ad: "Homeland Security Program - www.AMU.APUS.edu/HomelandSecurity - Expand Your World with a Degree in Homeland Security."
jurov: that would make me think why i'm considered target audience
Ukto: not sure why it didnt have the price
jurov: the numbers in the end are timestamp?
smickles: jurov: well, back when I had graduated highschool, each branch of the military did attempt to recruit me into their intelegence divisions. ... until i told them that I had authority issues. maybe DHS didn't get the memo
jurov: smickles, good for you
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00053214 = 2.0642 BTC [+]
Ukto: jurov: timestamp at the end
Ukto: jurov: heh, you know, when I mentioned I was setting up for the twatter crap, etc, no one bothreed to throw it out then :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10579 @ 0.00053214 = 5.6295 BTC [+]
jurov: i think teh protocol doesn't concern itself with twatter... but timestamp is nice addition
jurov: besides, live.coinbr.com rather uses RSS and JSON directly from source
Ukto: so I figured I to use glbse's basic layout so it would be easy fo kakobreklaaa to add
Ukto: the actual api-json listing will be quite a bit nicer
jurov: "source" i mean polimedia.us
JWU42: missed the comments from psychoB earlier this morning
Ukto: jurov: so you just want the timestamp changed? hehe
jurov: i have absolutely no issue with the timestamp
Ukto: I think I am completely misunderstanding what your wanting then hehe
kakobreklaaa: also timestamp is there because of twitter will mute 'dupe' orders
Ukto: I will add micerotime onto the ts then
jurov: Ukto, i'm not wanting anything particular, just poking a bit
Ukto: jurov: I am happy to do w/e for ppl. Just need to understand what it is. (I can be dense. ;)
Ukto: thanks for pointing that out kakobreklaaa
jurov: dense? you're in good comapny then ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1076 @ 0.00052726 = 0.5673 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3245 @ 0.00052726 = 1.711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4028 @ 0.00052707 = 2.123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5370 @ 0.0033 = 17.721 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> jurov: heh, you know, when I mentioned I was setting up for the twatter crap, etc, no one bothreed to throw it out then :P << i had a number of times, but it's not for twitter, it's in general.
mircea_popescu: JWU42 i wouldn't get too excited. a lot of people are dealing with a lot of greif as best they can.
JWU42: mircea_popescu: yeah - understood
JWU42: but it is fair to say that my wo partners current fiscal mess is impacting YABMC
mircea_popescu: the day glbse went down everyone in the know was "oh shit, check out the wave of 20 dollar investors tsunami nao"
JWU42: as some have said on the forums - it is similar to the morgage meltdown here
JWU42: the handful of larger lenders didn't realize how intertwined they were
JWU42: and played it far too loose (self included)
JWU42: and the one major event of Pirate brought many down
JWU42: but to his question - I have every intent TO pay
JWU42: timing and amount is the question - especially if it ends up that 2/3 of YABMC cannot pay (HK and PH)
mircea_popescu: last iirc from hashking was something ridiculous like 1/3 in 3 years.
JWU42: yeah - that is what I read
Namjies: mircea: That sums pretty much 90% of people on my lists.
JWU42: they are both in deep for sure
JWU42: I am in deep - just not as deep
JWU42: the losses are more personal and not OPM
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053192 = 2.2984 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12383 @ 0.00053214 = 6.5895 BTC [+]
JWU42: for those not following (other peoples coins)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49991, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.49991, 24 hour volume: 32116.39802185, 24 hour low: 12.97500, 24 hour high: 13.54900, 24 hour vwap: 13.35262
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00052707 = 0.1544 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9815 @ 0.000527 = 5.1725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00052312 = 6.8006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2114 @ 0.00052289 = 1.1054 BTC [-]
Namjies: rg, don't forget to distribute this month!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052307 = 2.2602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6229 @ 0.00052289 = 3.2571 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.0033 = 15.51 BTC [-]
Namjies: I spoke to him less than a week ago.
Namjies: But he said he's been working 60+ hours weeks so aye, he's not always here to talk.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053193 = 2.2985 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9779 @ 0.00053214 = 5.2038 BTC [+]
smickles: jebus giga, the amount of shit you eat, yet you yourself shit flowers
smickles: srsly, insert insult, exit plesant statement
mircea_popescu: smickles the worst part is that the most heard explanation as to why people won't list is that "they don't want to put up with the shitheads on the forum etc"
Namjies: Ah yes, on that part, Giga has been examplary. No matter how many insults you throw at him, not resort to getting mad and start name calling too.
Namjies: Who says they won't list what?
mircea_popescu: Namjies and as you can see, it does precious good, they still do it.
Namjies: Well it doesn't do much to improve the situation. But it prevents the situation from worsening.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005231 = 2.2603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8479 @ 0.00052289 = 4.4336 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i fail to see the difference. mpoe-pr brings a bigger stick, giga is always nice. overall the count of idiocy thrown at either is the same.
mircea_popescu: which is unsurprising, seeing how it's a function of the number of idiots running around, not a function of what they do
Namjies: If he were to insult back people, a bit like Usagi or some others did, well it's akin to extinguishing fire with kerosene. It's counter-productive.
Namjies: But people are angry at a situation and makes a colorful statements. You can take the time to answer the (more or less) coherent parts nicely or insult back. Replying someone accusing you of scamming you with a nice "fuck you too" is not very useful.
mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is, the results are about the same whether you beat up the idiots or are nice to them.
mircea_popescu: of course, if you're an idiot yourself the results won't be the same (hence, usagi)
Namjies: If you insult them without anything else, it just gets them angrier.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053192 = 2.2984 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00053214 = 1.2127 BTC [+]
Namjies: Hence why I state staying calm when an angry mob hurls insults at you is preferable to screaming back at them.
Namjies: Not that not screaming back at them calms them.
Namjies: Or has any positive results.
mircea_popescu: you can scare them straight. you just need to have the guts to actually do it.
mircea_popescu: if you do it half way... well... that won't be pretty.
Namjies: Well perhaps you'll be able to demonstrate that then... I hardly see how, for example, Giga could scare people away.
smickles: oh jeeze, I just received the first claim which does not match with the data from nefario
Namjies: Most have been corrected by now in updates sent by Nefario
Namjies: Not a single false claim so far, as far as I know.
smickles: this one was a ~1% shareholder apparently
Namjies: Eh, I had claims not on nefario's first list for up to ~20%
smickles: if nefario's list is to be believed, that's not possible in my case
Namjies: Ah, goes over the issued shares?
smickles: naw, nefario's list accounts for > 95% of shares
smickles: I thought it was a complete list at first
Namjies: Mines were far from complete. Unnoficial claims and updates from nefario are become less and less.
Namjies: At this rate there will be ~10%-30% unclaimed on each issue.
smickles: I feel for this person's position, /they make a claim /me says it doesn't match /they must think i just told them to sit and spin left 3 times
Namjies: Except BTC-BOND, I had 269 BTC loans from that
Namjies: of which 2 x 100 BTC claims and 1 x 50 BTC
Namjies: 3 people pretty much had all of it.
smickles: what did you need an exchange for then?
Namjies: Eh, I didn't know who had anything.
Namjies: People don't typically lend such large sums on the OTC.
Namjies: It was also simplier to manage more loans, wether a fraction of a BTC or large amounts.
smickles: well, i was speaking terms of hindsight, and annoyance at this whole situation
Namjies: Ah, well it's still an easy one to manage even with the situation.
Namjies: oh hey, I have 31 shares of SS apparently.
smickles: well, sign something with the claim address and send that message and sig to me signed by your WoT id, preferrably
smickles: well, sign something with the claim address and send that message to me signed by your WoT id, preferrably
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052304 = 2.2601 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7229 @ 0.00052289 = 3.78 BTC [-]
smickles: well, sign something with the claim address and send that message and signature to me signed by your WoT id, preferrably
smickles: oh yeah, you need to tell me the addy too, so that I can verify the first sig w/o guesswork
Namjies: Can't I just receive payments at shown address when available eh?
Namjies: As for a statement from me... well I'm currently authed, do I really need to sign what I say to you?
Namjies: If I had to change payment address, I'd sign with the GLBSE address.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053205 = 2.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3232 @ 0.00053214 = 1.7199 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.00053214 = 0.8003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6543 @ 0.00053227 = 3.4826 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052294 = 2.2596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10949 @ 0.00052289 = 5.7251 BTC [-]
smickles: Namjies: fine with me on all counts, except that I don't recognize the format of that signature
smickles: i'm used to them looking like IIRqUyEb9WhOKj/kDzSzNaOTPM5Of/FHwMyVC5z3+HU+3Sjt1G0jUwOFP9rUfKAEZTU4I5bUTXDkv+MS9F4CZc0=
Namjies: Different clients, different methods of signing
smickles: let me look into what that entails, unless you want to do additional work, that should be fine :)
Namjies: It entails opening armory, opening the message signing dialog in the tools menu and clicking on the import signature button
Namjies: Then you get a nice window to paste a signature block.
smickles: aw, c'mon, i can't dig thru the armory code to find the method they use and write a python script to imitate the verification?
smickles: oh hey, i see .py files anyway
Namjies: If you prefer to do it that way.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00052282 = 3.9734 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005224 = 2.2573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00052229 = 4.1674 BTC [-]
smickles: ok, found the relevant section of code
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1301 @ 0.00333853 = 4.3434 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052278 = 2.2589 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3180 @ 0.00052282 = 1.6626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00052621 = 5.4989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.0005302 = 6.5215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4649 @ 0.00053227 = 2.4745 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00053178 = 1.1965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053216 = 2.2995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00053227 = 1.5478 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00053232 = 7.7729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053198 = 2.2987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00053232 = 0.9821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00052558 = 1.8133 BTC [-]
Ukto: hmm, miss anything intersting?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052577 = 2.2719 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052568 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00052558 = 4.1784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00052432 = 1.4199 BTC [-]
Garr255: I trust him. He also manages litecoin global
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.0005246 = 6.2165 BTC [+]
Ukto: garr: i saw some weirdness earlier
Ukto: when i first logged in
Ukto: there were a bunch of trades listed for the asset
Ukto: then they all dissapeared
Ukto: went down to just 3
Garr255: Ukto, I've never seen more than the 3, that is odd indeed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.0005246 = 1.023 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00053025 = 11.1618 BTC [+]
Ukto: it was much earlier
Ukto: listed all the transactions within about 2 min of each other
Ukto: it was interseting, the total was the difference between total shares and outstanding
Garr255: Ukto, it must have been the way the shares were moved from the holding account to the newly created shareholders' accounts
Ukto: and then they reset the trade history
Garr255: burnside made an awesome script that does everything, so yeah that's likely what happened
Ukto: At first I about fell out of my chair in awe of the transactions hehe
Ukto: when I saw it had reset, I figured it was probably just that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17392 @ 0.00052432 = 9.119 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6408 @ 0.00052229 = 3.3468 BTC [-]
Ukto: i was debating throwing all my solo-mined ltc at some shares of ltc-global
Ukto: built up quite a stash
Ukto: I saw you pushed off the big div payout to next week
Ukto: if you make a div payout, what happens to the divs that goto the ppl who have not claimed yet?
Ukto: I kinda figured the divs would have gone out to all the holders at re-launch
Ukto: rather than making them hold back from selling any shares, and dilute it with the new ones
Ukto: but thats just me. hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16530 @ 0.00052804 = 8.7285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053018 = 2.2909 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1079 @ 0.00053025 = 0.5721 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052808 = 2.2818 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4679 @ 0.00052804 = 2.4707 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13941 @ 0.00052804 = 7.3614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1309 @ 0.00052229 = 0.6837 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052242 = 2.2574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00052229 = 1.6081 BTC [-]
Garr255: Ukto, All of the already issued and unclaimed shares' dividends go to a holding account, where the shares and respective dividends are held until they are claimed
Namjies: I have just received a payment on my GLBSE address
Ukto: but thats after you do the big div payout
Namjies: Small and from an unkown source
Namjies: What? GLBSE addresses were given to all issuers and I had lots of things.
Ukto: what assets did you hold ?
Ukto: i wasnt allwoed to claim my few shares of things on glbse
Ukto: somehow my 2fa or account in general would not work
Ukto: nefario wouldnt fix it
Ukto: couldnt claim. end of story.
Namjies: When I bought back things from my lists, I at least sent an email detailing how the amount was calculated and from which address to which address it was sent.
Ukto: and uhh, i dont recall what else anymore...
Ukto: like 10 mroe shares of something else
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12387 @ 0.00052229 = 6.4696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9413 @ 0.00052192 = 4.9128 BTC [-]
Ukto: i only used the account 3 more times after my account was 'hacked' that time magically
Ukto: and then got tired of nefario and stopped touching it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6492 @ 0.00052192 = 3.3883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00052087 = 3.1252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6308 @ 0.00052067 = 3.2844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.0005239 = 7.6227 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00052067 = 0.1822 BTC [-]
smickles: lol, i think the spammers are swapping notes,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00052067 = 5.3889 BTC [-]
smickles: Hello, I represent the late Titus Carver...
Namjies: I know why I always get a Bad Signature from gpg
Namjies: I always get a bad signature when copying a gpg signed message from windows command line.
Namjies: Would you happen to know how to solve that?
Namjies: Says unkown certificate... and shows a fingerprint in my list of trusted certificates...
Namjies: fuck this gpg signing thing, why does it never want to work properly?
Namjies: Anyone on linux and has gpg?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053007 = 2.2904 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.00053025 = 1.6549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18558 @ 0.00053238 = 9.8799 BTC [+]
Namjies: I had to manually sign, encrypt, submit to MPEx and then decrypt and then verify file for it to work
Namjies: The windows command line must be screwing the formatting
mod6: maybe got some ^M's in there
mircea_popescu: <Namjies> Different clients, different methods of signing << this is such a horrible thing ;/
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> i only used the account 3 more times after my account was 'hacked' that time magically <<< you too ?!
mircea_popescu: dude srlsy, six months ago nefario was in here explaining how omg wtf am i fud-ing his great exchange by saying the session get hijacked
Namjies: Could you explain further?
Namjies: about the s//r//n//n/ thing?
Namjies: I can say one thing. In notepad, I cannot see linebreaks for the correct file I obtained manually with gpg signing, but I can for the copy-paste from windows command line. In Notepad++, I can see linebreaks for both.
Namjies: So it's obviously a formatting issue
Ukto: back in may, around the middle of may to end
Ukto: he told me some other ip logged into my account, and dumped som 100btc worth of JAH shares down teh tube
Ukto: and withdrwa the btc
Ukto: was enough to kill the buys on the asset
Ukto: when i asked for the other ip
Ukto: end of story, have a great day.
Ukto: at that point my system was supposedly infected, which it was not, or i reused a user/pass
Ukto: which I actually did from btc-e
Ukto: I honestly do question btc-e :P but it was still my fault as Diablo-D3 pointed out, for not having 2fa
Namjies: woohoo... I manually sanitized my copy-paste from windows command line
Namjies: by using show all characters in Notepad++ and making all the whitespace match
Namjies: Windows command prompt also adds extra linebreaks because it refuses having lines longer than X characters.
Namjies: I'm glad to know I can actually use gpg correctly
Namjies: I can see why gpg was giving me so much problems now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053206 = 2.299 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5679 @ 0.00053238 = 3.0234 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Namjies the problem is that new lines in windows are /r/b
mircea_popescu: and to think all those idiots were making a living wall around nefario, the forum is incredible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052146 = 2.2532 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4087 @ 0.00052117 = 2.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052566 = 2.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.000526 = 5.512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 580 @ 0.1714009 = 99.4125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14923 @ 0.00052117 = 7.7774 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12853 @ 0.00052067 = 6.6922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00052091 = 1.2241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00052091 = 1.0267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16671 @ 0.00052067 = 8.6801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 316 @ 0.2247916 = 71.0341 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052082 = 2.2505 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19318 @ 0.00052067 = 10.0583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 734 @ 0.00052062 = 0.3821 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1613 @ 0.00335868 = 5.4176 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 68 @ 0.00336177 = 0.2286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12135 @ 0.00052062 = 6.3177 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052119 = 2.2521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00052126 = 4.952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15229 @ 0.000526 = 8.0105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1632 @ 0.00336177 = 5.4864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 718 @ 0.0033662 = 2.4169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052591 = 2.2725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.000526 = 2.0209 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6746 @ 0.00052628 = 3.5503 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 200 @ 0.25429173 = 50.8583 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052959 = 2.2884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00052979 = 1.3775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15266 @ 0.00053238 = 8.1273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12942 @ 0.00053238 = 6.8901 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21403 @ 0.00053248 = 11.3967 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000528 = 2.2815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3191 @ 0.00052777 = 1.6841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4453 @ 0.0005235 = 2.3311 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 940 @ 0.20783398 = 195.3639 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005237 = 2.2629 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16179 @ 0.0005235 = 8.4697 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 940 @ 0.12671029 = 119.1077 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I just trolled someone using math and logic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1262 @ 0.00053246 = 0.672 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The US Government isn't dependent on income for spending because it makes the money. The US government doesn't work like your checkbook, your household, your state, or even Greece. It goes by different economic rules, so it can run a massive debt and not go bankrupt. It can always pay that debt back (although some caution is warranted when doing so, because the debt itself often serves a purpose)."
mircea_popescu: i like these people running around. it's like... btctalk on a global scale
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: your pr-cunt has thrown a nice pile of shit in to the spinning fan. Where did you find this idiot?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: read my comment next
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: did I or did I not troll?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I want to see if anyone takes the bait on this one
EskimoBob: is she with you from your spamming days?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 apparently child porn didn't stick so we're moving on.
mircea_popescu: have i been a paid assassin or is that up next in 2013 ?
mircea_popescu: teh ciucius have to be moar careful, they'll run out of ominous things too soon at this rate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13068 @ 0.0005235 = 6.8411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2031 @ 0.00052062 = 1.0574 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 701 @ 0.00052051 = 0.3649 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob o, were you aggitated cause you thought she was saying you're a scammer ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052069 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2743 @ 0.00052051 = 1.4278 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: JWU42, when are you planning to pay the oustanding dividends of YABMC and buy them since you closed the operation?
PsychoticBoy: You can forget that your scammer friends (hashking still ows me 150 BTC and Patrick Harnett)
PsychoticBoy: You got all the shareholders information, or are you playing dumb like most issuers
PsychoticBoy: hmmnz looks like I am talking to my dick, got no answer.... yet
PsychoticBoy: JWU42, most mining bond/share issuers already bought their outstanding shares back, Where are you waiting for?......Christmas?
PsychoticBoy: I already got my lists of ABM, PGM and FDBF so
PsychoticBoy: ABM 99% complete PGM 45% complete FDBF 85% complete
Diablo-D3: Im going to have to relist DMC to shut it down
PsychoticBoy: Relisting or a buyback at reasonable price would be the best thing to do for asset issuers
Diablo-D3: Im relisting to get a reasonable price
PsychoticBoy: You dont want an angry Mob at your house, do you?
Diablo-D3: nefario basically fucked up dmc's future
Diablo-D3: but Im going to have to take a different route to get there
Diablo-D3: and Im going to have to buy back all the dmc shares over the next few months before I can even start
Diablo-D3: and since Im not an asshole, Im going to use my own money to do it
PsychoticBoy: Strange thing is.... not to be a dick, but usagi claimed he had 148 ABM shares but my list is almost 100% complete but no one got 148 shares or close..... hmmmmn
Diablo-D3: I thought he was saying he was going to refuse to
PsychoticBoy: that means usagi lied, also to BMF share holders, who had 148 shares of ABM according to usagi
Diablo-D3: I dont think usagi even gives a fuck anymore
PsychoticBoy: BMF spreadsheet showd last time I can look, 148 shares ABM
Diablo-D3: I wasnt stupid enough to give him coins, so hey
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: wait, whats his email?
PsychoticBoy: cpa@tsukino.ca, bmf@tsukino.ca, usagi@tsukino.ca
PsychoticBoy: I can give DeadTerra a email to check if he has more email addresses of usagi/tsukino/ Oliver Richman etc
PsychoticBoy: nope I read the whole list and no email seems to fit usagi
PsychoticBoy: so he did say to share holders of BMF that they owned 148 shares of ABM
PsychoticBoy: lets get a screeny of that , can probably find one on the forum
PsychoticBoy: he also sold the BFL singles BMF bought, did he?
PsychoticBoy: oooh to CPA or NYAN, but its both usagi so TO HIM SELF!!
Diablo-D3: so theres 320 shares unaccounted for
Diablo-D3: so lets assume he had more than 320 DMC
PsychoticBoy: most shares are claimed, probably the only ones who where left out are the ones that recieved a double payment or did not claim
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4319 @ 0.0005253 = 2.2688 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I think da2ce7 is the largest shareholder lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6206 @ 0.00052051 = 3.2303 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.00052032 = 17.925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13044 @ 0.00051967 = 6.7786 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2 @ 0.0005253 = 0.0011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14779 @ 0.00052536 = 7.7643 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005251 = 2.269 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3229 @ 0.00052536 = 1.6964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14423 @ 0.00052536 = 7.5773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00052797 = 4.8573 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18171 @ 0.00052882 = 9.6092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 400 @ 0.20725089 = 82.9004 BTC [-]
JWU42: PsychoticBoy: MOST mining companies?
JWU42: please explain who
JWU42: bought back their shares
JWU42: Pureminingm Bitbond and Giavpa have not
PsychoticBoy: I was planning but I am relisting at Bitfunder
JWU42: and as I said there will be no buyback at .07
JWU42: and just reading your other question now
JWU42: when we payout - I am waiting to hear from hashking and Patrick on their status
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1882 @ 0.00336739 = 6.3374 BTC [+]
JWU42: as each of us had an amount of hashes to pay 2x weekly
JWU42: PsychoticBoy: I believe you are correct
PsychoticBoy: sure, maybe they did not even own that much hartdware
JWU42: hashking did for sure
JWU42: I had my portion covered about 2x
PsychoticBoy: In case they dont pay up, you cant afford 0.07 but if they do then its a reasonable price
JWU42: so I know we have ~38% of the coupons ready (my share)
JWU42: .07 is NOT a reasonable price
PsychoticBoy: onlyu the coupon? no buyback money? you are also broke then
JWU42: Paying out some portion of the coupons cumulated
JWU42: I don;'t know when and how much
JWU42: due to the PH and HK issues
JWU42: all this is in the thread
PsychoticBoy: and, I have pay`d for lifetime (perpetual) 1 mh/s shares
JWU42: I have been accumluating my portion of the coupons
JWU42: well - 1 Mh/s will be worth a few satoshis in a year
PsychoticBoy: so taht I did not have to buy new hardware, now I have to compensate that hashes, no you have
JWU42: What good is 1.5 Gh/s going to do for you
mircea_popescu: so apparently bakewell's thing got declared worthless.
JWU42: hell - it makes less than 1.4 BTC a week now
PsychoticBoy: 1.5 Gh/s is a lot for some, lets say I am that some ppl
JWU42: Yes, as did I with other assets
JWU42: we are all getting screwed and elarning a lesson
JWU42: We threw around BTC like it was play money
JWU42: there was not enough professionalism in the ventures being run
JWU42: few people have the working capital to weather a shitstorm
PsychoticBoy: I am doing the best I can, at this point most issuers are just taking
JWU42: and those that didn't happened to be big players and have killed many others in the process
JWU42: PsychoticBoy: Maybe I try to consolidate the ownership of YABMC to 5-10 holders and then payout until ASIC arrives
JWU42: PsychoticBoy: you seem to be missing the point that there will be a payout
mircea_popescu: <JWU42> PsychoticBoy: Maybe I try to consolidate the ownership of YABMC to 5-10 holders and then payout until ASIC arrives << how's this work ?
JWU42: I have my portion of the BTC
JWU42: mircea_popescu: no idea - just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
JWU42: mircea_popescu: the benefit is a simpler payout
mircea_popescu: if you want free advice, publish a clear piece delineating what you owe, what the other two owe, make a fixed date and a fixed payment.
JWU42: acocutning for share transfers = HUGE PITA
mircea_popescu: sure, the regular idiots will make a lot of noise, but in principle it's the solution.
JWU42: mircea_popescu: I think that is where it is heading....
mircea_popescu: well, don't muck it up by first throwing things at the wal.
JWU42: I am trying to give PH and HK a chance to respond
mircea_popescu: dude. if ph was gonna respond it was going to be before i started ruining his life.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't even bet he has what to respond with by now.
JWU42: I believe, as PsychoticBoy said, both are not in a position to pay anything
JWU42: HK's hread says he owes thousands of BTC
mircea_popescu: another fuckwit empowered by the forum to act a part he wasn't cut for.
JWU42: The fucking Vegas meeting did many of us in
mircea_popescu: funny thing, the same know it alls are all offended nao. but anyway, it's how it goes.
JWU42: that was P's hail mary to keep people from pulling BTC
JWU42: as many were starting to
JWU42: oh well - that is my mess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4877 @ 0.00052605 = 2.5655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00052382 = 6.0501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00051967 = 3.6928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2767 @ 0.00051962 = 1.4378 BTC [-]
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051973 = 2.2458 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 783 @ 0.00051962 = 0.4069 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6146 @ 0.00051886 = 3.1889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00052859 = 1.617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5041 @ 0.00052882 = 2.6658 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobreklaaa ya i guess the asic comps are the next thing to pop.
mircea_popescu: "Swiss investigators raided his home and seized portable storage devices containing terrabytes of classified information, running into hundreds of thousands of printed pages."
davout: i'm in a playful mood, but i can't get a simple STAT working on MPEx
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 445 @ 0.2247937 = 100.0332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.0033995 = 169.975 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3118 @ 0.00337418 = 10.5207 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4333 @ 0.00333853 = 14.4659 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: did you get the updated list from James?
EskimoBob: let me check my list, I think I had some of that DMC horror :)
gribble: Current Blocks: 211389 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 290 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3408747.30061292 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.877070602787
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: I see a pm. I dont see an email in the pm.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051908 = 2.2429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14704 @ 0.00051886 = 7.6293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15475 @ 0.00051835 = 8.0215 BTC [-]
jurov: The first thing to know about this person is that she is psychotic. Or psychic. However you spell the word
jurov: i understood it like mpoe-pr = erin pavlina
jurov: erin is a psychic living in vegas
jurov: no. perhaps usagi is under psychic influence... hilarious
mircea_popescu: im saving myself for when it's discovered she's marylin monroe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051839 = 2.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8825 @ 0.00051835 = 4.5744 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11504 @ 0.0005183 = 5.9625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00051972 = 0.4937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3371 @ 0.00051972 = 1.752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18056 @ 0.00052003 = 9.3897 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12201 @ 0.00052215 = 6.3708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005219 = 2.2551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14829 @ 0.00052215 = 7.743 BTC [+]
JWU42: hey - it is progress
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051897 = 2.2425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7622 @ 0.00051873 = 3.9538 BTC [-]
JWU42: and nothing but a test for nwo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 35052 @ 0.00339949 = 119.1589 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 70448 @ 0.0033995 = 239.488 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052195 = 2.2553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3370 @ 0.00052215 = 1.7596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23709 @ 0.00052495 = 12.446 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052662 = 2.2755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1229 @ 0.00052644 = 0.647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052707 = 2.2775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9029 @ 0.00052742 = 4.7621 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4595 @ 0.00052742 = 2.4235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00052882 = 1.9693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3531 @ 0.00052899 = 1.8679 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3092 @ 0.00052644 = 1.6278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11241 @ 0.00052637 = 5.9169 BTC [-]
pigeons: "$8,000 for 8 months of WordPress hosting"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052878 = 2.2849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3979 @ 0.00052899 = 2.1049 BTC [+]
pigeons: can't lose S3052 is on staff
pigeons: "Humorously, Invoice 10002 has a line item (bottom of the first page) for the time spent creating and paying invoice 10001. "
kakobreklaaa: >>replying to user bitarrow who contacted me by PM on the forum 0.08hrs 6.4pounds
kakobreklaaa: >>responded to mihai threads insults and accusations in staff channel on skype 0.67hrs 53 pounds
pigeons: well he warned us all of the pirate ponzi, he deserves a little something for the effort
pigeons: well they probably get the bitpay fee back as a bonus
noagendamarket: they can advertise the BFL scam on behalf of bitpay endlessly
noagendamarket: I dont always give 12 month interest fee loans but when I do its for equipoment that nevver arrives
pigeons: Diablo-D3: what is a watchable "anime" from netflix?
pigeons: oh i thought vladimir was one of those guys very concerned about the pirate ponzi
pigeons: maybe i have him confised with some of the other nice russians
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00335055 = 4.3557 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the other few russians i know about were quite on board buying debt and all.
mircea_popescu: "So what you are saying is, you kicked out the only person who is not a crazy person,"
mircea_popescu: he repeatedly threatened the shareholders to block an investment that would have brought over $65,000 in new capital and probably would have saved the company.
Ukto: pigeons: netflix/anime: none
Ukto: they are all dubbed
noagendamarket: If I see a bitcoin mag in the newsagents Im secretly going to wipe dogshit on the cover
Namjies: does it have to be animes?
mircea_popescu: The above statement contains multiply slanderous false statements of facts. Which is likely result of libel campaign perpetrated against myself
mircea_popescu: so what's the real story here ? anyone actually know ?
pigeons: Namjies: no anything. i'm housitting
Namjies: There's Futurama assuming you haven't already seen it.
pigeons: i think i'll defy advice and go with bruno
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00052672 = 1.3168 BTC [-]
pigeons: sasha baren cohn (borat) is a flaming hairdresser who baits people in alabama on camera
mircea_popescu: is anyone willing to halp ? there's no way i can remember it all.
Namjies: I forget within an hour...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00052672 = 0.9592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12179 @ 0.00052637 = 6.4107 BTC [-]
Namjies: there's MNW large bet, Patrick Harnett, Pirate, GLBSE, Tradehill, Hashking, Usagi, Diablo-D3, Theymos/Mods, and the list would go on.
pigeons: BTCex is a russian exchange took everyones money, came back, ignored it for like a year than did it again down for maintenence last 3 months
Namjies: Lots of drama around these
pigeons: bitomat was when their aws ami used ephemeral storage and they terminated the instance and lost their wallet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052885 = 2.2852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16177 @ 0.00052899 = 8.5575 BTC [+]
pigeons: moonco.in with the fake ICE page
mircea_popescu: when did phantomcircuit mail the list of intersangro emails ? sometime q3-4 2011
Namjies: I think all this drama requires a musical theme full of drama and madness.
pigeons: yes and bitlex stopped paying in his ponzi multiplier and just ignored the english forum for 2 years but stays on the german one
noagendamarket: what about ziggy and mybitcointrade or whatever it was
kakobreklaaa: i dunno but noone mentioned bfl, they are preety shit :)
Namjies: Anything ASIC related created some drama...
kakobreklaaa: there was plenty of drama around bfl in the past
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 228 @ 0.00052899 = 0.1206 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27818 @ 0.00052945 = 14.7282 BTC [+]
jurov: because they so totally don't look at all alike
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18649 @ 0.00052945 = 9.8737 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1251 @ 0.00052952 = 0.6624 BTC [+]
jurov: imho it would be easier to list oldest standing btc enterprises
jurov: 1. mtgox (though they use borderline scammy payout practices already)
jurov: 2. maybe few pools
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16166 @ 0.00052952 = 8.5602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10634 @ 0.00052967 = 5.6325 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00052967 = 8.2629 BTC [+]
jurov: no idea what else. britcoin/intersango? virwox?
Namjies: He's just listing long standing BTC businesses.
jurov: yes, just off my head. vircurex had found a spot in my heart for its uncontented ugliness
jurov: mpex never came close.. but then they fixed it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052838 = 2.2831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00052805 = 10.1386 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4129 @ 0.00052654 = 2.1741 BTC [-]
jurov: intersango works afaik,just only in gbp
mircea_popescu: last i know the guy was pretty much telling everyone to fuck off/ not taking new accounts etc
jurov: they have shut down usd part or like that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052961 = 2.2884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4735 @ 0.00052967 = 2.508 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8244 @ 0.00052997 = 4.3691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00335055 = 6.7011 BTC [+]
Ukto: ABM launched onto bitfunder
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 206 @ 0.00052997 = 0.1092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15414 @ 0.00053067 = 8.1797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1580 @ 0.00053117 = 0.8392 BTC [+]
jurov: Ukto, you have deleted testing acct? it says it doesn't know my email
Ukto: jurov: db was wiped at launch
Ukto: your accoutn may have been copeid to sandbox
Ukto: depending on when you signed up
jurov: np, i was just interested in assets
jurov: and the information is completely useless as to estimate the value
jurov: one probably would have to dig in btctalk to know how much MH/s they have, how much do they pay for electricity, etc.
jurov: Ukto, are they required to post monthly/quarterly report at least?
jurov: with nice disclaimer in the bottom "This is a lie in our opinion." lmao
jurov: actually, this is a step beyond burnside's "none of this exists and all is for educational purposes"
Ukto: either way you get the same result 'this stuff is basically only worth something, as long as the community deems it worth something'
mircea_popescu: pigeons : make a btcjam offering, "Need 1337 BTC to make scanlab.name clone except ours will be much better (can't disclose much of the plan sorry)!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1970 @ 0.00053117 = 1.0464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00053129 = 10.2539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3144 @ 0.00053179 = 1.6719 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8627 @ 0.00053248 = 4.5937 BTC [+]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 50 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <smickles> yeah, i don't think mp is married because he has too many women to do it legally in his country
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00053248 = 5.4845 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: am i the only one who finds it a little odd that the pic url is
jurov: even if it's genuine, i'd fear i'll put some beverage on that table and accidentally spill it
jurov: maybe that's planned, they vanish, taking all bitcoins and say "sorry i have spilled coffee on it"
jurov: or perhaps "some unspecified bodily fluid"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00053248 = 12.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00052834 = 2.219 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052747 = 2.2792 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052738 = 2.2788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1002 @ 0.00052716 = 0.5282 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "sorry, the mining bond is closed because i got pissed and i pissed on the rig"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052736 = 2.2787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20244 @ 0.00052716 = 10.6718 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6204 @ 0.00052716 = 3.2705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7396 @ 0.00052654 = 3.8943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053227 = 2.2999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2970 @ 0.00053248 = 1.5815 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7109 @ 0.00053271 = 3.787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052871 = 2.2846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2279 @ 0.00052864 = 1.2048 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053253 = 2.3011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7276 @ 0.00053271 = 3.876 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 100 @ 0.2515799 = 25.158 BTC [-]
smickles: thestringpuller: yo mircea_popescu scorcery is as scorcery does
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053252 = 2.301 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.00053271 = 2.5458 BTC [+]
Namjies: I stopped reading your blog when it started prompting me for a fee.
smickles: Namjies: you get one credit every 7 days, up to 4 or 5, iirc
Namjies: Well fee/registration/etc.
smickles: dude, mircea_popescu shakaru, i think, got away with 5kbtc and 20kusd
Namjies: It's not about loss, it's about drama
smickles: ya, and that's all that's been reported
smickles: i didn't report the fact that he made betwee 300 and 600 btc worth of software sales that he neglected to pay to me
smickles: you should add gavin's bitcoin faucet to the linode hack, it was a minicule amount, but it was a 'sentimental' theft
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053242 = 2.3006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5093 @ 0.00053271 = 2.7131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8536 @ 0.00053276 = 4.5476 BTC [+]
smickles: wow, it feels like the total should be roughly equal to the amount of available btc
mircea_popescu: heck, fuck it, he's worth the mention on the drama alone
Namjies: Don't forget to include Bitcoin itself in that drama list
Namjies: and Silk Road. and those US people who had concerns about Bitcoins
Namjies: and pretty much everyone and everything that ever was in the vinicity of anything bitcoin related.
Namjies: Just to be on the safe side.
smickles: heh, i gave it to the /r/etards
smickles: mircea_popescu: have you figured the total estimate yet?
smickles: I don't want to hit the '+' key that many times, it'll break
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00052871 = 0.8988 BTC [-]
Namjies: Seriously, these people can find a billion thing that's just no findable. How that thing was stumbled on I have no idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2621 @ 0.00052871 = 1.3857 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11171 @ 0.00052864 = 5.9054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9111 @ 0.00052654 = 4.7973 BTC [-]
Namjies: Old website with basically the same logo as ButterflyLabs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052666 = 2.2757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12181 @ 0.00052665 = 6.4151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64 @ 0.00052654 = 0.0337 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 488 @ 0.00052637 = 0.2569 BTC [-]
smickles: no such thing as a valid point people
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052647 = 2.2749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00052637 = 5.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00052637 = 6.0796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053262 = 2.3015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8228 @ 0.00053276 = 4.3835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005325 = 2.3009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18173 @ 0.00053268 = 9.6804 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26006 @ 0.00053268 = 13.8529 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8363 @ 0.00052637 = 4.402 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14888 @ 0.00052195 = 7.7708 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053249 = 2.3009 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5986 @ 0.00053276 = 3.1891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00053284 = 5.8612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6143 @ 0.00053287 = 3.2734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1731 @ 0.00053294 = 0.9225 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: e have received questions from publications such as BBC and from Emirates Airlines’ Open Skies magazine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17518 @ 0.00053055 = 9.2942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052204 = 2.2557 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00052195 = 6.6178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053052 = 2.2924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20629 @ 0.00053055 = 10.9447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00052226 = 1.9846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 400 @ 0.21815916 = 87.2637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1196 @ 0.00053055 = 0.6345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 938 @ 0.00053294 = 0.4999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1516 @ 0.00053303 = 0.8081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6370 @ 0.00053303 = 3.3954 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3830 @ 0.00053304 = 2.0415 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00052226 = 0.2721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00052195 = 2.7815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16326 @ 0.00052224 = 8.5261 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1823 @ 0.00052195 = 0.9515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16206 @ 0.00052057 = 8.4364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6971 @ 0.00052052 = 3.6285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052062 = 2.2496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13279 @ 0.00052056 = 6.9125 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052069 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10221 @ 0.00052056 = 5.3206 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19958 @ 0.00052052 = 10.3885 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7652 @ 0.00052052 = 3.983 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8124 @ 0.00052049 = 4.2285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052209 = 2.256 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5979 @ 0.00052224 = 3.1225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005207 = 2.2499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00052049 = 3.0079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00052049 = 6.5582 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4237 @ 0.00052049 = 2.2053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18863 @ 0.00052043 = 9.8169 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052192 = 2.2552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00052224 = 4.2573 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00052259 = 1.6341 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 175 @ 0.20324472 = 35.5678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052258 = 2.2581 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6379 @ 0.00052259 = 3.3336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.00052259 = 1.9994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18451 @ 0.00052332 = 9.6558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7559 @ 0.00052565 = 3.9734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0005255 = 2.1546 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00052156 = 4.3488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052057 = 2.2494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9959 @ 0.00052043 = 5.183 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6982 @ 0.0005203 = 3.6327 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell davout you know bitcoin-central is popping cert warnings
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 221 @ 0.0005255 = 0.1161 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7064 @ 0.00052565 = 3.7132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052542 = 2.2703 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4927 @ 0.00052565 = 2.5899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00052893 = 3.2794 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00053191 = 11.4361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2835 @ 0.00053119 = 1.5059 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12943 @ 0.00052873 = 6.8434 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3422 @ 0.00052495 = 1.7964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00053191 = 2.101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16078 @ 0.00053304 = 8.5702 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052437 = 2.2658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00052434 = 1.6144 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053299 = 2.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30092 @ 0.00053304 = 16.0402 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15443 @ 0.00053305 = 8.2319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 180000 @ 0.00339 = 610.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 39226 @ 0.00339 = 132.9761 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 294 @ 0.00339 = 0.9967 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 890 @ 0.13290581 = 118.2862 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 95000 @ 0.00339 = 322.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 101750 @ 0.00339 = 344.9325 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17216 @ 0.00053262 = 9.1696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7034 @ 0.00053305 = 3.7495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8394 @ 0.00053305 = 4.4744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4056 @ 0.00053313 = 2.1624 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052857 = 2.284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00052845 = 1.0458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00053111 = 2.1776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005303 = 2.2914 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11915 @ 0.00053023 = 6.3177 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16335 @ 0.00053023 = 8.6613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5915 @ 0.00052845 = 3.1258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00052845 = 7.1869 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1756 @ 0.00052845 = 0.928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21540 @ 0.00052722 = 11.3563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6304 @ 0.00052434 = 3.3054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052455 = 2.2666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8217 @ 0.00052434 = 4.3085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00052353 = 4.9474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052083 = 4.4271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.00052257 = 4.1706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18497 @ 0.00052083 = 9.6338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00052083 = 1.4844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00052257 = 2.002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 221 @ 0.0005291 = 0.1169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00052939 = 2.6734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.00013201 = 66.00300001 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053085 = 2.2938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14133 @ 0.00053119 = 7.5073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3946 @ 0.00053313 = 2.1037 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053289 = 2.3026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00053313 = 0.9218 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00053313 = 3.1988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4994 @ 0.00053071 = 2.6504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053013 = 2.2907 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8029 @ 0.00053003 = 4.2556 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1869 @ 0.00052543 = 0.982 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052134 = 2.2527 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00052131 = 4.4723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052144 = 2.2531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00052131 = 6.2969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00052131 = 2.0331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10754 @ 0.00052131 = 5.6062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3653 @ 0.00052083 = 1.9026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3943 @ 0.0005203 = 2.0515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052181 = 2.2547 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5237 @ 0.00052188 = 2.7331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4442 @ 0.00052242 = 2.3206 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6025 @ 0.0005203 = 3.1348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18233 @ 0.00052024 = 9.4855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00052059 = 1.7461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 967 @ 0.00052059 = 0.5034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00052024 = 5.6795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15866 @ 0.00051965 = 8.2448 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00053013 = 1.4955 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1402 @ 0.0033995 = 4.7661 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 698 @ 0.0034 = 2.3732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17555 @ 0.00051965 = 9.1225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052105 = 2.2515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00052139 = 6.2827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00053013 = 0.7952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00053048 = 3.7929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00053313 = 6.4509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053294 = 2.3028 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00053313 = 1.5509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7684 @ 0.00053315 = 4.0967 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052661 = 2.2755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7429 @ 0.00052653 = 3.9116 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00051965 = 3.1179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053293 = 2.3028 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12316 @ 0.00053315 = 6.5663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8613 @ 0.00053316 = 4.5921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00053316 = 9.4103 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051974 = 2.2458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16284 @ 0.00051965 = 8.462 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 445 @ 0.00051965 = 0.2312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5738 @ 0.00051917 = 2.979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00051907 = 4.2045 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00051869 = 3.0406 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 211535 | Current Difficulty: 3438908.9601591 | Next Difficulty At Block: 211679 | Next Difficulty In: 144 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3378632.47116087 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.75277943373
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051902 = 2.2427 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005188 = 2.2417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23949 @ 0.00051869 = 12.4221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1047 @ 0.00051869 = 0.5431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5103 @ 0.00051833 = 2.645 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu is a "counterstrike-playing-forever-alone-keyboard-hero"
Namjies: Aye, no one to loan me 100 BTC for BitVPS shares as collateral?
smickles: has there been any development in the uncertainty with BitVPS?
Namjies: People just say rg is not much around, as far as I know.
smickles: well, for a time they weren't fulfilling their shareholder contract obligations
smickles: rg said he wanted to sell bitvps to his boss
smickles: also, rg may have said that he doesn't care about bitcoin now that he has a job
smickles: the rest of it, and rg not being around much are from my reading of #bitvps
smickles: also, gruble (iirc) ran off with the paypal account
Namjies: He did say he was working 60+ hours weeks hence why he wasn't around much. But if I leave him a PM he answers me after some time.
smickles: when i pm him he doesn't answer :(
Diablo-D3: Namjies: btc-mining is yours, right?
mircea_popescu: dunno what the big deal is, catfish jumped out of water since 4evar.
smickles: Namjies: I might lend 100btc with MPBOR as colat.
Namjies: Last I heard last week, he had a new provider for servers. (Maybe his boss? Maybe that's the company he works for). He'd keep the BitVPS front and dividends as usual but would rent servers there. He's apparently very happy about it. Lower costs for him, and he gets 24/7 support free from the provider. Plus automatic provision upon payment.
gribble: doffx was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Doffx> That is for sure.
Namjies: He'd keep all the old nodes around the world for current customers.
Diablo-D3: Namjies: answer meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Namjies: I was answering smickles first, sorry.
smickles: mircea_popescu: sweet, savory comments, that's what's up
Namjies: I'm not sure about BTC-MINING. I have to get a hold of Amazingrando.
Diablo-D3: amazingrando probably like fled to pirate's house in the gayman islands
smickles: Namjies: it is his boss/company that he works for that is the new provider, nice rigs apparently too.
smickles: mircea_popescu: cbeast? isn't he one of those animal derivetive transformers?
Diablo-D3: smickles, mircea_popescu, I know one of you two fucking know this
Diablo-D3: smickles: no, you want nethack for that
smickles: jeez even such as wikipedia get it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00338347 = 2.7068 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 470 @ 0.0033 = 1.551 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: why the fuck has no one beat coins out of him yet
smickles: i did hear him claim to move down under
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I thought we already knew that
Diablo-D3: its probably the maximum message limit
Diablo-D3: you can only do like 100 tweets a day or some shit
Diablo-D3: just wire your own irc bot up or some shit
mircea_popescu: there was another trade in s.dice with those two, for like 8k
mircea_popescu: i had no idea your entire fund was worth like 100 btc.
smickles: mircea_popescu: I warned you that the twitter api use rules had changed
PsychoticBoy: <mircea_popescu> i had no idea your entire fund was worth like 100 btc.<< I have only bought back 20% of 1000 shares which represent 1 BFL single so
Diablo-D3: I think everyone here should get hn accounts
Diablo-D3: then flag that story and downvote zhoutong
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0034 = 4.08 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Mihai never denied this. His whole point had been that his girlfriend deserves cash and/or equity because Vladimir's wife had already been paid cash/equity."
mircea_popescu: hahaha o god ty bitcoin for being here for when there's nothing on snl
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you're basically proposing we all get another set of btctalk accounts. ffs.
Diablo-D3: ie, people with lots of money read this stie
Diablo-D3: well, lots of money and/or access to lots of money because they run lucrative tech startups in the bay area
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised
Diablo-D3: I know a guy who has a lot of money and finds it fun to troll irc
Diablo-D3: then again, he wrote most of the code that modern ircds use (including the one you're talking on right now)
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: also, who the fuck is mpoe_pr?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053292 = 2.3027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00053316 = 3.7742 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and stop acting like a meat condom
Diablo-D3: <FakeMPOE_PR> EVERYONE, MY LORD AND MASTER, MIRCEA, DEMANDS THAT YOU THROW EGGS AT NEFARIO'S HOUSE
mircea_popescu: how do you figure mpoe-pr is less "real" than diablo-d3 ?
Diablo-D3: because Ive been using it since 1991 and its not named "DMC-PR"
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure if it weren't for mpoe/mpex she wouldn't be touching that forum with a 10 foot cock.
Diablo-D3: and since you dont have a ten foot cock, we'll never know
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052569 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7829 @ 0.00052556 = 4.1146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14171 @ 0.00052556 = 7.4477 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00052472 = 2.1928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053312 = 2.3036 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 981 @ 0.00053316 = 0.523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0033 / 0.0033888 / 0.0034 (437077 shares, 1,481.17 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00333957 / 0.0034 (1711907 shares, 5,717.04 BTC)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.27092, Best ask: 13.27093, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.27092, 24 hour volume: 27457.97185821, 24 hour low: 13.02100, 24 hour high: 13.53000, 24 hour vwap: 13.24630
mircea_popescu: smickles "He also charted the losses over time and used it to speculate that we may soon see a 1 million BTC loss soon." <<< too many soons
Namjies: mircea_popescu, next week's bread will be sourdough because of the sour aftertaste it will leave.
smickles: heh, apparently, people who come come look at my blog, now -on average- view a second page of it as well :D
Namjies: Sounds like all an achievement.
Namjies: Also, who else was not aware BitVPS dividends seen on MPEx is split on 500k shares, not 1 million?
Namjies: Apparently, few others than those who received dividends know about it.
smickles: Namjies: it's a quirk of the way mpex works
mircea_popescu: yeah. because only half the shares are actually available to issuer.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> [MPEX] [S.BVPS] [PAID] 500000 @ 0.00013201 = 66.00300001 BTC << i think anyone who's on irc knows about it
mircea_popescu: yes. because shares are non-voting the owner can never sell more than half thr shares
mircea_popescu: this is actually enforced by he never having more than half the shares at all.
Namjies: Ah. I didn't know it was forced on all issuers.
mircea_popescu: otherwise someone could issue 1mn shares, sell 999k or w/e and just go all vladimir
Namjies: SatoshiDice has only 10% issued on MPEx, not 50% tho, if I recall correctly?
Namjies: So it can be less too. Just not over 50%
smickles: woah, was that nearly a 4% dividend?
mircea_popescu: smickles was a pretty huge dividend yeah. im kinda sorry i sold mine
assbot: [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.00200004 / 0.00309201 / 0.00349995 (194457 shares, 601.26 BTC)
smickles: er, i was looking at the s.dice price, i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1000 @ 0.003725 = 3.725 BTC [+]
Namjies: I guess someone wanted the remaining ask
Namjies: and another appeared for 1.5k at 0.004
Namjies: I bought most asks by now.
mircea_popescu: this not counting options of course, that's be another 2.1k
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052483 = 2.2678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10879 @ 0.00052472 = 5.7084 BTC [-]
gribble: use the 'gentime' command instead
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 32500000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3438908.96016, is 7 minutes and 34 seconds
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 325000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3438908.96016, is 12 hours, 37 minutes, and 26 seconds
smickles: Namjies: you have the market cornered on s.bvps then?
smickles: mircea_popescu: sounds like you're getting into dmc math
Namjies: I have 77% of circulating shares (175k)
Namjies: Assuming rg didn't sell any more.
Namjies: So that sounds about accurate.
smickles: nanotube should claim that profile
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21629 @ 0.00052472 = 11.3492 BTC [-]
Namjies: RG has ads in many places I think. I thought he hosted a few well known bitcoin service and had his link place on those.
Namjies: I'm not sure if he pays for ads or if there's deals for them.
Namjies: I always say BitVPS as a good choice on MPEx
Namjies: Only reason I didn't get more before was the ~6% weekly profit I was making trading on GLBSE instead.
smickles: you offered it to me, seems i was smart to decline
Namjies: Yes, there was. I had brendio get back my pass-through shares and transfer them to me on MPEx when I got my account. Soon after, GLBSE closed.
mircea_popescu: jesus god will i never get this motherfucking oil sorted out
Namjies: Well luckily I didn't borrow on GLBSE at a high interest. 0.5% weekly was very high already. Sure there was large margins for trading on price differences but I was fearing a large loss was inevitable. Wasn't expecting GLBSE closing tho.
Namjies: No, I forgot how that works however.
Namjies: Yes, there was interest too for balances related to that but it was abolished I believe. Probably because MPEx's capital meet the demand in full?
mircea_popescu: no, mostly because there's no sane way to use the balances.
smickles: oh you know, but it's a secret
mircea_popescu: on the firm belief that a system that's not built to thrive on trolls isn't built to last.
smickles: hey, i thought the mpoe statemtnets weren't behind the wall :|
smickles: it's like i temp. deleted that cookie for no good reason :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00052764 = 9.5239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11963 @ 0.00052472 = 6.2772 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6747 @ 0.00051833 = 3.4972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 517 @ 0.00051831 = 0.268 BTC [-]
Namjies: Aren't those statement published on bitcointalk too anyway?
Namjies: Well I'll be AFK for a bit.
EskimoBob: is brendio still in hiding? I like to dump that BitVPS PT crap on him he sold to GLBSE
dub: woah Namjies is double hyphenated
Namjies: How much was there in that pass-through when GLBSE closed by the way?
EskimoBob: he lurks around the forum but is not answering to pm and questions.
Namjies: also, what do you mean, dub?
dub: actually I think a single name has to have two hyphens
gribble: brendio was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 40 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <brendio> *nef
EskimoBob: So mircea_popescu, how do you like that "short sell" gigamining idea?
dub: whereas you have one in each name
dub: if that is your real name, which it seems to be
Namjies: EskimoBob: I bought almost all of BitVPS on MPEx by now. How many shares were circulating in the pass-through?
dub: Namjies: thanks for the payout anyway
EskimoBob: Namjies: I do not now put this is probably in the forum
dub: my first glbse recovery
Namjies: There's only 39k shares left I don't own.
EskimoBob: I have few and I like to get rid of them but brendio is gone
Namjies: If he had more than that owed, I probably bought em off of him by now that means.
Namjies: Ah, maybe he doesn't have more than that. He might have those 39k shares I'm missing.
Namjies: Before GLBSE closed, I had passthrough shares I had transfered to MPEx and were removed from the pass-through. Maybe others did the same.
Namjies: Hopefully he still have those shares.
dub: Namjies: what did the kraken pt ipo at? was it 0.1?
Namjies: Including over 100 BTC from me because I was keeping more deposited than I had sold so divs were always covered.
Namjies: Which means monthly profit total was ~1700 USD this month.
Namjies: Well, they didn't go under at all.
Namjies: New provider with cheaper nodes for better. Plus 24/7 support.
Namjies: Is what rg will be getting from his new employer apparently.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0005308 = 1.327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053284 = 2.3024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00053316 = 0.1376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00053317 = 2.3459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6521 @ 0.00053319 = 3.4769 BTC [+]
Namjies: Hey Roth. I see you have your eye on the bot.
Rothgar: yea, looking good if it weren't for that smell
Rothgar: assbot, take a shower and I'll take you out
Rothgar: assbot, I might be able to arrange a threesome if you clean up.
Namjies: Yeah, don't go around flirting too much. I've seen you with danieldaniel earlier. You'll get your conquests jealous!
Rothgar: OK maybe I should take it private.
jurov: namijes, you can do 'BUY|S.BVPS|2000' nao :p
jurov: apparently mpex considers price above 9999 to be malformed order
Namjies: Well I fear the day shares will be worth over 131000 USD a piece
Namjies: That's like 500x the price of shares of top corporations.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053292 = 2.3027 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00053319 = 4.5742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9044 @ 0.00053328 = 4.823 BTC [+]
jurov: oh, just few more rounds of quantitative easing will do
EskimoBob: PsychoticBoy: how many shares did you sell?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053323 = 2.3041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20956 @ 0.00053328 = 11.1754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 973 @ 0.00053329 = 0.5189 BTC [+]
Namjies: How many he sold is irrelevant. 1 share = 1/1000th
Namjies: If he sells 1, then the person who bought it owns 1/1000th.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00053329 = 7.5461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 775 @ 0.19181095 = 148.6535 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: a, jurov, yes, 9999.99999999 BTC is the most you can pay for a unit.
jurov: it's not enough for precious last bvps share
jurov: hehe, it's actually 999999999999. unless mircea uses floats
jurov: like other professional futures platforms
Namjies: mircea_popescu, I suppose there's a very low count issued.
mircea_popescu: Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK-A) -NYSE 131,090.00 150.00
Namjies: MPEx would support Berkshire Hathaway prices, no higher.
smickles: dub: i meant the battleship comment ;)
smickles: mircea_popescu: my comment on your post is my most viewed blog post
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052338 = 2.2615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.0005232 = 4.5409 BTC [-]
smickles: it got accused of blogspam too :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052321 = 2.2608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2329 @ 0.0005232 = 1.2185 BTC [-]
smickles: i guess that they didn't understand I was highlighting something you said at the end of what many may consider a ;tldr
mircea_popescu: ya well. part of free market is no matter what happens there'll be someone to explain why it's wrong/dangerous/etc.
mircea_popescu: "It's really unfortunate that the link you referenced contained too many wrong understandings and misrepresentations. "
smickles: mircea_popescu: even better ZT to D3: "You're a credible person,..."
mircea_popescu: smickles o, he's going to assume something stupid ? o noes! that hurts me SO BAD
mircea_popescu: but anyways : i suspect some pretty big news coming out of mpex today.
pigeons: nameterrific makes a good mpex listing, good move
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.23552546 = 235.5255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.18937934 = 189.3793 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29021761 = 290.2176 BTC [+]
pigeons: mircea looks like jerry seinfeld
smickles: and is interested in converse shoes :o
pigeons: on his blog he looks like kramer
mircea_popescu: i don't think there actually exist 100 in the whole world.
pigeons: not a special fucking snowflake now
smickles: ;;isdown encyclopediabitcoinica.com
gribble: Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "issucky" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6023 @ 0.0005232 = 3.1512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12327 @ 0.00051816 = 6.3874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00051822 = 1.166 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2071 @ 0.00051822 = 1.0732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1042 @ 0.00051816 = 0.5399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00051803 = 9.5318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7437 @ 0.00051765 = 3.8498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9613 @ 0.00051765 = 4.9762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4187 @ 0.0005176 = 2.1672 BTC [-]
sgornick: Ended up winning the monthly BitLotto too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00052466 = 1.9937 BTC [+]
Namjies: It's probably... well... Hanna...
Namjies: just like my address is 1Namjies
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00052466 = 0.2733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00052498 = 8.7672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052528 = 2.889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00052643 = 2.4105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051763 = 2.2367 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13613 @ 0.0005176 = 7.0461 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10623 @ 0.0005173 = 5.4953 BTC [-]
sgornick: 1Namjies: Thanks. I guess I don't follow this channel close enough as the name didn't initially ring a bell.
Namjies: Well I haven't actually seen any Hanna. All I know is that address is not associated with any user of the otc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6836 @ 0.0005173 = 3.5363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.0005172 = 7.4477 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13964 @ 0.00051713 = 7.2212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12660 @ 0.00051848 = 6.564 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6886 @ 0.00051713 = 3.561 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8680 @ 0.00051669 = 4.4849 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1680 @ 0.00051669 = 0.868 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00051648 = 4.0802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00051644 = 3.8217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2615 @ 0.00051603 = 1.3494 BTC [-]
dub: just went to my first auction
dub: dude was a slippery son of a gun
dub: like literally the auctioneer was sweating so much im surprised he didnt slip over
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20085 @ 0.00051603 = 10.3645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9615 @ 0.00051599 = 4.9612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3685 @ 0.00051599 = 1.9014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00051591 = 4.798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8501 @ 0.00051585 = 4.3852 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00051585 = 0.8506 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4151 @ 0.00051572 = 2.1408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12093 @ 0.00051572 = 6.2366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10016 @ 0.00051565 = 5.1648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18234 @ 0.00051565 = 9.4024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.00051555 = 1.5807 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051792 = 2.2379 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3801 @ 0.00051799 = 1.9689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00051798 = 2.0201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051563 = 2.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21679 @ 0.00051555 = 11.1766 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6308 @ 0.00051555 = 3.2521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11142 @ 0.00051535 = 5.742 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 421 @ 0.00051798 = 0.2181 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18679 @ 0.00051799 = 9.6755 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051556 = 2.2277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20808 @ 0.00051535 = 10.7234 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14114 @ 0.00051523 = 7.272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00051523 = 3.9157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6838 @ 0.00051523 = 3.5231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27103 @ 0.00051486 = 13.9543 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6447 @ 0.00051486 = 3.3193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5053 @ 0.00051476 = 2.6011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17069 @ 0.00051476 = 8.7864 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1828 @ 0.00051476 = 0.941 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00051466 = 11.9401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 799 @ 0.00051459 = 0.4112 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0005167 = 2.0926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19183 @ 0.00051459 = 9.8714 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.0005167 = 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7893 @ 0.00051702 = 4.0808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051488 = 2.2248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7468 @ 0.00051459 = 3.843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00051452 = 2.9585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00051407 = 2.3647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16445 @ 0.00051405 = 8.4536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7797 @ 0.00051405 = 4.008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18937 @ 0.0005132 = 9.7185 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.0005147 = 1.7757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.0005132 = 8.4935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6367 @ 0.0005132 = 3.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 833 @ 0.00051284 = 0.4272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00051284 = 8.7952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051611 = 2.2301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.00051631 = 5.746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051615 = 2.2303 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4408 @ 0.00051631 = 2.2759 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051612 = 2.2302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00051631 = 5.2989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22466 @ 0.00051702 = 11.6154 BTC [+]
markedathome: been away for a while (shortly before the bitcoinica collapse) ... know about the glbse drama, what else has been happening?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051302 = 2.2168 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37343 @ 0.00051284 = 19.151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13386 @ 0.00051276 = 6.8638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051337 = 2.2183 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14529 @ 0.00051339 = 7.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 843 @ 0.00051339 = 0.4328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14007 @ 0.00051702 = 7.2419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051302 = 2.2168 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11264 @ 0.00051276 = 5.7757 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4065 @ 0.0005127 = 2.0841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EWTI] 1000 @ 0.066794 = 66.794 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 5 @ 0.13220833 = 0.661 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 100 @ 0.13220833 = 13.2208 BTC
markedathome: oh noes, don't tell me you've taken up dragon's tale. I saw someone get many btc loans to get out of the hole they got into on that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00051694 = 0.853 BTC [+]
markedathome: better return than satoshidice? or more variable in luck?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2671 @ 0.00051694 = 1.3807 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14434 @ 0.00051702 = 7.4627 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00051799 = 3.9212 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00051925 = 22.0681 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052016 = 2.9129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00052043 = 8.483 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13218 @ 0.00052054 = 6.8805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00052057 = 14.0033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00052102 = 8.5708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2778 @ 0.00052586 = 1.4608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6663 @ 0.00052643 = 3.5076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25952 @ 0.00052697 = 13.6759 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00052786 = 12.3255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00052944 = 4.4928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9326 @ 0.00052959 = 4.939 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00052962 = 6.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00053012 = 15.3205 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00053025 = 5.0374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00053079 = 7.5638 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27330 @ 0.00053116 = 14.5166 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28822 @ 0.00053159 = 15.3215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00053192 = 8.3511 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00053226 = 25.1227 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00053253 = 1.0496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00053262 = 5.992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7089 @ 0.00053273 = 3.7765 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00053275 = 15.9825 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15603 @ 0.00053321 = 8.3197 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39377 @ 0.00053329 = 20.9994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00053339 = 6.5607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36032 @ 0.00053343 = 19.2205 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00053348 = 3.761 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00053358 = 5.4959 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00053371 = 11.6349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25315 @ 0.00053381 = 13.5134 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00053381 = 2.0018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00053384 = 11.958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00053384 = 13.7731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.00053391 = 20.2886 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00053395 = 3.2037 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47873 @ 0.00053395 = 25.5618 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00053398 = 16.2063 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1990 @ 0.00053409 = 1.0628 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155 @ 0.00053409 = 0.0828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00052861 = 3.8324 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052861 = 4.6782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15855 @ 0.00053409 = 8.468 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00053426 = 15.3333 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00053427 = 2.8829 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00053433 = 8.2287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4149 @ 0.00053436 = 2.2171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34350 @ 0.00053445 = 18.3584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00053454 = 4.1961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00053454 = 16.838 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00053477 = 10.9093 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.0005349 = 14.9505 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00053506 = 6.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.0005352 = 10.0082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00053522 = 4.5761 BTC [+]
markedathome: just found coinbr.... anyone want to supply me with a referral code?
markedathome: you don't, anyone who refers gets some portion of that new users fees as a referral bonus.
Cylta: what the current price for mpex accounts?
sgnb: kakobrekla: where do you get that from?
kakobrekla: use a referral souch as 27AF75321F2489E8
mircea_popescu: hehe yeah, if you use an already reg'd fingerprint each gets 5 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4155 @ 0.00053534 = 2.2243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23945 @ 0.00053535 = 12.819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 200 @ 0.20633112 = 41.2662 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3088 @ 0.00053535 = 1.6532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12462 @ 0.00053539 = 6.672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10481 @ 0.00053531 = 5.6106 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00052725 = 7.1706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00052592 = 2.0248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3819 @ 0.00051885 = 1.9815 BTC [-]
markedathome: thanks. will sign up shortly, but probably not put that much through for a couple of weeks or so.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5688 @ 0.00053539 = 3.0453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00053542 = 12.1005 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00053555 = 6.373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00053561 = 2.5977 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9928 @ 0.00053562 = 5.3176 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24759 @ 0.00053562 = 13.2614 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30095 @ 0.00053576 = 16.1237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00053582 = 4.3134 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00053593 = 5.8416 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00053594 = 17.0965 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32140 @ 0.00053598 = 17.2264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7190 @ 0.00053601 = 3.8539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8660 @ 0.00053601 = 4.6418 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00053604 = 5.5748 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 264 @ 0.00053607 = 0.1415 BTC [+]
sgnb: mircea_popescu: oh... I thought only the sponsor would get 5 BTC
sgnb: I would have looked for one ;-)
mircea_popescu: "If you already have an account and someone mentions your keyid when they sign up for a new account each of you will be credited 5 BTC."
sgnb: I know, I've just read it again
sgnb: I missed the "each of you"
mircea_popescu: it's supposed to work as a simple way for 3rd party developers to finance themselves.
mircea_popescu: make X service, have a user sign-up a day, suddenly you're making 150 btc a month.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11686 @ 0.00053607 = 6.2645 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6114 @ 0.00053627 = 3.2788 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MSIG] 50 @ 0.25711156 = 12.8556 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 150 @ 0.13220833 = 19.8312 BTC
jurov: fuck, looks like bitvps screwed my connection again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005296 = 2.2884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5117 @ 0.00052934 = 2.7086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053128 = 2.2957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5940 @ 0.00053135 = 3.1562 BTC [+]
jurov: has anyone a way to contact rg directly? i filed a ticket, but don't want to wait 12hrs again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052961 = 2.2884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27879 @ 0.00052934 = 14.7575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00053082 = 2.9726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053127 = 2.2956 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3660 @ 0.00053135 = 1.9447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3619 @ 0.00053627 = 1.9408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052941 = 2.2876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4054 @ 0.00052934 = 2.1459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8961 @ 0.0005291 = 4.7413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00052862 = 2.2202 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6264 @ 0.00052678 = 3.2997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053178 = 2.2978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0005315 = 9.1418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1056 @ 0.00052678 = 0.5563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2653 @ 0.00052678 = 1.3975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00052541 = 11.3489 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052192 = 2.2552 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24053 @ 0.00052191 = 12.5535 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052525 = 2.2696 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00052541 = 2.7736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052197 = 2.2554 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7647 @ 0.00052191 = 3.991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9632 @ 0.00051331 = 4.9442 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12988 @ 0.00051331 = 6.6669 BTC [-]
jurov: coinbr.com finally back online, without any word from james or anyone
jurov: *digs quickly to db to add'em all to coinbr*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5580 @ 0.00051331 = 2.8643 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6285 @ 0.0005127 = 3.2223 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2585 @ 0.0005125 = 1.3248 BTC [-]
smickles: ha!, i need to reset my cookie, but i can see that title mp
jurov: mircea or anyone, these futures can be manually exercised like options?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6715 @ 0.0005125 = 3.4414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 435 @ 0.0005124 = 0.2229 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4365 @ 0.0005124 = 2.2366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8777 @ 0.0005119 = 4.4929 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052531 = 2.2699 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118 @ 0.00052541 = 0.062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9251 @ 0.00053054 = 4.908 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4749 @ 0.00052231 = 2.4805 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053599 = 2.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13189 @ 0.00053627 = 7.0729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00053634 = 4.5053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2041 @ 0.00053639 = 1.0948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005355 = 2.3139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00053533 = 5.8774 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053622 = 2.317 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4294 @ 0.00053639 = 2.3033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053632 = 2.3174 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17829 @ 0.00053639 = 9.5633 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053552 = 2.314 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00053533 = 1.9159 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053566 = 2.3146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12079 @ 0.00053533 = 6.4663 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6163 @ 0.00053533 = 3.2992 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8387 @ 0.00053154 = 4.458 BTC [-]
markedathome: so i have to ask, what is with the cherry lorry?
mircea_popescu: markedathome some idiot kept bringing nonsensical/broken examples in a thread discussing patrick harnett
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9849 @ 0.0005357 = 5.2761 BTC [+]
markedathome: the one where mpoe-pr was calling for the scamtag? i've just started to skim the thread on bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: jcpham you need to learn how to spell that one day lol
jcpham: keyboardism is sometimes fail
jcpham: get off my cock mircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10763 @ 0.00053154 = 5.721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437 @ 0.00052796 = 0.2307 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.23833615 = 238.3362 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.29381295 = 293.813 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.19133839 = 191.3384 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6845 @ 0.0005357 = 3.6669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00053639 = 6.7317 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86 @ 0.00053639 = 0.0461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1869 @ 0.00053645 = 1.0026 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053624 = 2.3171 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3231 @ 0.00053645 = 1.7333 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8461 @ 0.00053671 = 4.5411 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 290 @ 0.12538418 = 36.3614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IEDG] 50 @ 0.07767461 = 3.8837 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 50 @ 0.20633112 = 10.3166 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INKG] 50 @ 0.07407914 = 3.704 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ISP5] 50 @ 0.10896071 = 5.448 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053642 = 2.3179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.00053671 = 2.0282 BTC [+]
mod6: Cool, the Futures Contracts are up on mpex!
kakobrekla: i have a feeling some people are really paid to troll on the forums
mod6: I gotta add the MKFUT to bitotter, that shouldn't be hard.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052798 = 2.2814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21029 @ 0.00052796 = 11.1025 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053599 = 2.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00053626 = 2.2523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1260 @ 0.00053671 = 0.6763 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00053683 = 5.1804 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13194 @ 0.00053708 = 7.0862 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "It's been a long time and while I realize there is a huge demand for these units, I no longer wish to purchase them due to what amounts to an act of god regarding my financial position. So I will make the following request, sil vous plais;"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17156 @ 0.00053708 = 9.2141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6344 @ 0.00053708 = 3.4072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053192 = 2.2984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18979 @ 0.00053185 = 10.094 BTC [-]
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, just doing a bit of copy/replace :)
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: what is usagi up to now?
mod6: anyway, getting that part in there was easy. i wish i didn't have any other jobs :(
Ukto: what does that thread have to do with weexchange?
mircea_popescu: but, i meanwhile remember it was great's. you two working together ?!
Ukto: Graet is the Aussie director
Ukto: which allows us to handle AUD
Ukto: I handle USD and CAD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005321 = 2.2992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2286 @ 0.00053185 = 1.2158 BTC [-]
Ukto: its one of the reasons why it appears we are the last exchange to natively handle AUD, you need an AU director
dub: god made me retarded so I ripped you off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053214 = 2.2994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2435 @ 0.00053185 = 1.2951 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00052796 = 1.6071 BTC [-]
dub: what was the name of that race horse on glbse?
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MPTG] 1 @ 0.12516851 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 1 @ 0.20633112 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INKG] 1 @ 0.07407914 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ISP5] 1 @ 0.10896071 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EWTI] 1 @ 0.06666667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 1 @ 0.27682136 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EHOG] 1 @ 0.22636576 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACOG] 1 @ 0.05710061 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ASBG] 1 @ 0.11396016 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.AWHG] 1 @ 0.0670108 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACCA] 1 @ 0.18675666 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ALCG] 1 @ 0.10096628 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 1 @ 0.13219995 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MSIG] 1 @ 0.25711156 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IEDG] 1 @ 0.07767461 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052796 = 2.9038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9740 @ 0.00052796 = 5.1423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00052574 = 1.4458 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10187 @ 0.00052302 = 5.328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9663 @ 0.00052001 = 5.0249 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 18 @ 0.13219995 = 2.3796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13510 @ 0.00052377 = 7.0761 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28315 @ 0.00053193 = 15.0616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19256 @ 0.00053708 = 10.342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00053711 = 3.1152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00053725 = 13.3775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00053731 = 5.3731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57250 @ 0.00053732 = 30.7616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00053738 = 6.2873 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2588 @ 0.00053743 = 1.3909 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.0005375 = 10.4813 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00053774 = 14.3039 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00053787 = 3.0121 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48742 @ 0.00053804 = 26.2251 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00053824 = 2.8527 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00053831 = 8.0477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6405 @ 0.00053839 = 3.4484 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14702 @ 0.00053847 = 7.9166 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00053877 = 4.1485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7182 @ 0.00053893 = 3.8706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053871 = 2.3278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053873 = 2.3279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15858 @ 0.00053893 = 8.5464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053535 = 2.3132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26479 @ 0.00053501 = 14.1665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053516 = 2.3124 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6410 @ 0.00053501 = 3.4294 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.000535 = 17.0398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00053882 = 4.3106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053883 = 2.3283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 510 @ 0.00053893 = 0.2749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18 @ 0.000539 = 0.0097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053883 = 2.3283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.000539 = 0.2043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053898 = 2.3289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13939 @ 0.000539 = 7.5131 BTC [+]
kakobreklaaa: ciuciu: And to paraphrase Mircea and his friends, it is OK to look at porn, even to make it as you both do.
kakobreklaaa: im kinda dissapointed you left mnw on that list
kakobreklaaa: im not trying to dunk you here just mnw does not belong there
kakobreklaaa: just making bitcoinland looking worse than it already it and to a newb who ready that post it will look like mnw got away with 10k or whatever
jcpham: link me to the newest drama
jcpham: i read that one already
kakobreklaaa: MCX’s solution may not be on the market yet, but once it is, it will quickly be accepted at a broad array of retailers processing more than $1 trillion in payments annually. No other solution can say that.
mircea_popescu: "Here's yet another sign that bitcoin is a legit currency: A new bank for bitcoin is up and running at Bitcoin-Central.net."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29088 @ 0.00053819 = 15.6549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2497 @ 0.000539 = 1.3459 BTC [+]
Ukto: does deadterra come on irc?
Ukto: i swear ive seen the nick here before
gribble: deadterra was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <DeaDTerra> <dub>: your kidding me right... since when to I send links to viruses...
Ukto: irc failed over to alt nick
Ukto: someone else regd my name
Ukto: by the time i got ukyo registerd
Ukto: i am considering changing irc
Ukto: mircea_popescu: on all my sites
jurov: i'm halfway there with 2fa
Ukto: mircea_popescu: well then, buff em :P
Ukto: jurov: if you need help, lemme know :)
jurov: yes, already figured the hardest part and can show qr codes... but there was another work plus i got some flu again...
jurov: and must confess, my priority recently was rather to tune the bot...
Ukto: heh, I know how proirities go! :)
jurov: but now i ran out of ideas how to improve it without redoing whole thing, coinbr can get some love
mircea_popescu: btw, just to remind everyone that i'm still taking mm's for the futures.
jurov: and i'm ready to equip mm's with a code... as i spammed everywhere
Ukto: .. merged mining? :P
jurov: hehe, no market makers for futures
jurov: and my idea is, someone like that may find coinbr foundation useful
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13267 @ 0.000539 = 7.1509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00053916 = 2.6958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3783 @ 0.00053939 = 2.0405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24617 @ 0.00053939 = 13.2782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1883 @ 0.00053991 = 1.0167 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Ukto "This site is pretty awesome compared to others I've looked at. It has an easy and intuitive interface which makes buying and selling shares really easy."
Ukto: post has hardly hit 31 views
Ukto: dont think the post itself will cause any major uproar :P
Ukto: I honestly was not even going to bother
Ukto: a couple possible issuers asked me to
jurov: bah. does it have one-click price setting like coinbr?
Ukto: it has one click price cancel! :P
Ukto: besides, usually when you enter a price, you use the keyboard, the click one time to submit
Ukto: so wouldnt everyone have 1 click? :P
Ukto: you dont HAVE to click a text box.. you can tab to it.. :P
Ukto: clicking is optional
Ukto: so BF is NO-Click price setting :P
jurov: mircea, you should replace whole mpex page with blank screen & command prompt
Ukto: that would just... wow.
jurov: Abort, Retry, Fail?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00331325 = 2.8163 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 589 @ 0.0033 = 1.9437 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: davout don't worry, the current set of groupies will be soon replaced by a larger, worse one.
davout: mircea_popescu: asshole :D
davout: mircea_popescu: btw i haven't rated you on otc yet, but i will
Ukto: is that a threat? :P
Namjies: Those thing don't move as much in value. The 2% fee might get annoying.
jurov: Namjies but bitcoin moves
Namjies: I'd probably sell them to go long on Bitcoins.
Namjies: "The future is here with futures"... or some marketing of the sort.
davout: you WISH you were regulated as I am :3
mircea_popescu: Namjies yeah, selling them would be a decent synthetic btc buy
mircea_popescu: who's that gypsy douche you're so infatuated with anyway ?
davout: he's my own personal god
davout: he's called django reinhardt
mircea_popescu: are you allowed in bitcoin if your personal god isn't galt ?
davout: and i use it as my avatar and public face because it looks slightly more professionnal than spongebob squarepants
davout: this guy is awesome to listen to
davout: and he's awesome to play
davout: not that i'd ever play like him
mircea_popescu: i like guys who are aware that they look like spongebob irl.
davout: is that this guy has lost TWO FUCKING FINGERS ON HIS LEFT HAND
davout: before he even got this guitar style
davout: "a familiar rock awaits you somewhere" -> oh god, i didn't understand this one right away, but when i did it fucking cracked me up
davout: MPOE-PR being the usual bitch :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005386 = 2.3273 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00053845 = 2.1807 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6729 @ 0.00053818 = 3.6214 BTC [-]
davout: i still haven't decided if you are actually different people of if she's just your other personality
davout: but i don't think it really mattes
pigeons: i think at least he really puts on women's panties when he gets into the role
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053982 = 2.3326 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4726 @ 0.00053996 = 2.5519 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jurov possibly the worst touch-up job on that pic. is it supposed to be half "digital" that 1 dolalr note ?
davout: mircea_popescu: timestamped picture or she lives in your brain
davout: i need a break from the forums
jurov: davout, so you came here?
davout: i had to go *somewhere*
davout: and i didn't really feel like meditation
davout: oh this, and mircea summoned me
jurov: nothing wrong, just poking a bit
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 112 @ 0.13219995 = 14.8064 BTC [-]
jurov: did you ask coinabul on physical delivery at least for that?
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EWTI] 60 @ 0.06666667 = 4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6610 @ 0.00053996 = 3.5691 BTC [+]
jurov: like, what did they say?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27514 @ 0.00053996 = 14.8565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054001 = 10.1522 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14628 @ 0.00054002 = 7.8994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11736 @ 0.00054005 = 6.338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00054006 = 20.5763 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00054012 = 2.2145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29894 @ 0.00054039 = 16.1544 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00054056 = 6.7029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00054064 = 1.5289 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3622 @ 0.00054064 = 1.9582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8078 @ 0.00054074 = 4.3681 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053848 = 2.3268 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00053818 = 6.393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00053827 = 2.3259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1579 @ 0.00053818 = 0.8498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.000538 = 1.8717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00054048 = 2.3354 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13372 @ 0.00054074 = 7.2308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00054052 = 2.3356 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00054074 = 16.9522 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00054098 = 12.713 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.0005411 = 8.0353 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12712 @ 0.00054132 = 6.8813 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00054134 = 2.409 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17251 @ 0.00054139 = 9.3395 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00054142 = 15.1327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00054177 = 13.4359 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8639 @ 0.00054205 = 4.6828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00054211 = 5.6922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00054222 = 4.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00054226 = 12.3093 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00054236 = 9.0303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00054249 = 5.3707 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00054251 = 4.9097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00054253 = 9.006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00054267 = 9.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00054284 = 4.5599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21506 @ 0.00054296 = 11.6769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00054306 = 11.4314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00054313 = 9.722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12532 @ 0.00054313 = 6.8065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24264 @ 0.00054328 = 13.1821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45350 @ 0.00054331 = 24.6391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00054332 = 8.1498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19520 @ 0.00054333 = 10.6058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00054333 = 7.2535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.0005435 = 14.0223 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00054357 = 7.1751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.0005436 = 9.8392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.0005436 = 15.2752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00054378 = 9.7065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27212 @ 0.00054402 = 14.8039 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00054437 = 10.0708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00054438 = 7.0225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00054453 = 12.5242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00054526 = 15.6762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00054558 = 4.5283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00054571 = 14.5159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33902 @ 0.0005458 = 18.5037 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00054593 = 19.5443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00054615 = 11.1961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0005463 = 8.1945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00054774 = 11.0643 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00054782 = 36.3205 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25167 @ 0.00054807 = 13.7933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13033 @ 0.00054826 = 7.1455 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00054854 = 6.5551 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73350 @ 0.00054887 = 40.2596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48750 @ 0.00054905 = 26.7662 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, mpoe-pr says "he puts on women's panties, and posts on bitcointaaaaalk"
Ukto: havent seen u post on there in a while
Ukto: at least int he threads i read
davout: i want to see you in women's panties mircea
mircea_popescu: anyone has any theory as to why hash rate isn't dropping ?
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -6.67681208754 % based on data since last change | -5.57782548461 % based on data for last three days
davout: people are simply speculating that the future value will make them profitable retroactively
pigeons: i was trying to link to the contract & prospectus page
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00055037 = 11.3376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00055101 = 11.1855 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11711 @ 0.00055 = 6.4411 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 25000 Shares Will Be Issued With An Approx. Value Of 1.0 LTC Per Share.
mircea_popescu: Funds raised will be invested into various loans including but not limited to
mircea_popescu: In the extremely unlikely event that we operate at a loss for more than 90 days,
Ukto: think i shoulda posted the bitfunder thread in teh main marktplace instead of securities? :/
Ukto: it, itself isnt a security
Ukto: cryptostocks lists in the main marketplace
pigeons: note: we are not really the mob
mircea_popescu: C) SHAREHOLDERS as OWNERS of a public company are OBLIGATED to act IN GOOD FAITH with regard to the company and its operation, including GUARDING TRADE SECRETS
Ukto: what if they break C ?
mircea_popescu: this is pretty good. guard them trade secrets of the 25k share 1 ltc nominal non-mob mob thingee
mircea_popescu: they probably trade $15 to suzy for massage services, which is their trade secret.
pigeons: bet you wish you were more user friendly now
Ukto: i thnk hes glad hes not
mircea_popescu: Ukto i was starting to be concerned i'm a little TOO friendly
Ukto: mircea_popescu: just swich the site to the console system :P
mircea_popescu: o hey! the entire corp is less than what i made playing dragon's tale for a coupla days
Ukto: is dragons tale full of ads?
mircea_popescu: D) The litecoinglobal.com website operates as a non-fiduciary clearinghouse
mircea_popescu: providing transactional intermediation between private parties
pigeons: it means they trade cocunuts
mircea_popescu: wait a second. any user owning 10 shares in the exchange gets to vote on new issues ?
mircea_popescu: suppose i make 20 accounts, buy 10 shares and round-robin them around. = 20 votes => your momma's a whore inc (YMAH, inc) approved
Ukto: and you can vote how you want
Ukto: no counts as 2 negative votes
Ukto: yes counts as 1 positive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00055 = 3.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3109 @ 0.00055101 = 1.7131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00329871 = 2.1442 BTC [-]
davout: you see, that's the problem with success
davout: one spelling mistake gets amplified by all the wannabe legitimate regulated businessmen
davout: stop being so jealous mircea, one day you'll be regulated too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3454 @ 0.00055007 = 1.8999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6747 @ 0.00055101 = 3.7177 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1753 @ 0.00055154 = 0.9668 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: speaking of regulating, i should probably create some way for btc people to short euro and us financial institutions
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 867 @ 0.00055007 = 0.4769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20783 @ 0.00055 = 11.4307 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28795 @ 0.00055 = 15.8373 BTC [-]
jurov: who sets up these s.mpoe manipulations?
jurov: right after i sell it to repay a loan, someone pushes price up and puts a wall on 0.00055
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 869 @ 0.00329871 = 2.8666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 781 @ 0.0032912 = 2.5704 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:X.EWTI] 1day: 0.06666667 / 0.06678667 / 0.066794 (1061 shares, 70.86 BTC), 30day: 0.06666667 / 0.06678667 / 0.066794 (1061 shares, 70.86 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:X.INDQ] 1day: 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 (251 shares, 51.79 BTC), 30day: 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 / 0.20633112 (251 shares, 51.79 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:X.MGCG] 1day: 0.13219995 / 0.13220548 / 0.13220833 (386 shares, 51.03 BTC), 30day: 0.13219995 / 0.13220548 / 0.13220833 (386 shares, 51.03 BTC)
Namjies: Well looking to get a 100 BTC loan filled for 4 weeks.
mircea_popescu: Namjies someone could just put the 100 in mpoe bonds and make 9.9% if last month holds ?
mircea_popescu: the e-gold operation maintains microsoft sql servers detailing
mircea_popescu: "From these images of the servers and copies of the databases, I was able to
mircea_popescu: reconstruct the customer profiles and transaction histories for e-gold account holders by
mircea_popescu: transferring the database information on each account holder into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0032912 = 5.2659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055037 = 2.3781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00055008 = 4.053 BTC [-]
Namjies: Open-source/non-profits/software cos adopt bitcoins every day.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055137 = 2.3825 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00055154 = 16.6565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00055161 = 11.2528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9893 @ 0.00055239 = 5.4648 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000553 = 5.53 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25186 @ 0.00055318 = 13.9324 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055014 = 2.3772 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17607 @ 0.00055008 = 9.6853 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055295 = 2.3893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 214 @ 0.00055318 = 0.1184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00055719 = 7.9121 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00055937 = 9.9008 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056086 = 2.4235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9137 @ 0.00056111 = 5.1269 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 200 @ 0.27682136 = 55.3643 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00056111 = 5.4708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056014 = 2.4204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22743 @ 0.00056 = 12.7361 BTC [-]
smickles: 78749045d632e04f6c7bea776d1921bf1e76ed0e361d464fb2de861b2c38f595
smickles: when numbers match up in that way, it's damn spooky
smickles: check the input and total output on that tx. the input was the conversion of one of our assets. The fact that it matched up, made me think that I did something horribly wrong until i rechecked the numbers
smickles: and, 100 even? with so many destinations going out to the satoshi?
dub: when you sign a contract for $950k, you expect a motherfucker to call you back
dub: its almost nerve racking and shit
Namjies: You paid a few random holders and it ended up being EXACTLY 100 BTC?
Namjies: I recognize my address as well as some of my holders in there.
dub: praps a whiskey to calm the nerves
Namjies: How I manage to remember those addresses when I have a hard time remembering someone's name until I heard it for the thousandth time is beyond me.
smickles: dub: 950k? I can't even relate, best I've done is ~100k and they bought me gin
smickles: Namjies: I wouldn't call 'em random, they are the few who have made a claim so far
dub: heh, gave the guy a 95k check
Namjies: For example suppose you were paying 200 BTC or a round number and the current claimers happened to have a somewhat round number of shares, the payout would probably end up being a round number too.
smickles: yeah, but i didn't expect it to happen because I'm not dealing with nice round percentages, and it included peeps who were getting their second payment and peeps getting their first and second payment in one
mircea_popescu: guy comes to trilema, asks for futures explanation post. half hour later, futures explanation post. i hope he's impressed.
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INKG] 25 @ 0.07407914 = 1.852 BTC
dub: how does vorhees manage to not be called an idiot more often?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056063 = 2.4225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3479 @ 0.00056067 = 1.9506 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12721 @ 0.00056067 = 7.1323 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 267 @ 0.00056111 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
dub: what we need is a bitcoin crusade
dub: to impale these 'serial entrepreneurs' on pikes and mount them at the gates of the intertubes
dub: a final solution for this tide of fucktardation
toffoo: dub: why do you think that? personally I think evorhees is about as far from "idiot" as one can get in the world of bitcoin writers/commentators. maybe that's why no one calls him that.
dub: toffoo: because he's advocating people talking to the media at significant conferences about bitcoin being for drugs and CP?
dub: that I don't see any displays of credibility other than an approach of; start a thousand 'businesses' and hope a couple stick
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00056111 = 0.9516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21328 @ 0.00056277 = 12.0028 BTC [+]
dub: clearly hitting a winner with dice, so far
dub: well the thread he created that in response to
dub: voorhees seems to have an atitude of its more important to try alot than have success
mircea_popescu: i guess they be rumspringa-ing. still finding their bearings.
dub: sure but doing so in the pretense of representing the best and brightest of bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: Don't hate on someone just because a silly quote is pulled out and trumpeted by a journalist... you should know better.
mircea_popescu: Further, you can assume that most people have heard the blackmarket side of Bitcoin already. So by being frank about that, you can sometimes earn some honesty credits when you're meeting with people.
dub: there is acknowledgment and there is advocacy
mircea_popescu: and then there's the completely unfounded belief that conferences matter in any sense
dub: understandign that the media is want to twist things, extreme caution should be excercised in taht regard
dub: so its ok to cry 'misquote!'
dub: better not to raise it imo
mircea_popescu: well that's all the excitement i can take for one day. later all
mircea_popescu: i recently ran a web probe for bitcoin. it's save to say every last internet scammer/"finance" whatever/general bulshitter/scammer knows of btc by now.
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pigeons: yeah a few years ago i knew a whole town, the sherrif, the barber, the teachers, everyone put all their money into one of those
pigeons: you would think they would be running out of suckers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1220 @ 0.0040975 = 4.999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056797 = 2.4542 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00056811 = 1.5623 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00332457 = 5.4855 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9359 @ 0.00056811 = 5.3169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4482 @ 0.00056797 = 2.5456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056566 = 2.4442 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 528 @ 0.0005655 = 0.2986 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151 @ 0.00056337 = 0.0851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056781 = 2.4535 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1836 @ 0.00056811 = 1.043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.0005694 = 5.7225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00056954 = 4.357 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00056956 = 10.4799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 343 @ 0.00057041 = 0.1957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057024 = 2.464 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15957 @ 0.00057041 = 9.102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00057252 = 1.6889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8622 @ 0.00057389 = 4.9481 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00057644 = 0.7206 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00057644 = 3.084 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43000, Best ask: 13.43001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.43000, 24 hour volume: 27962.67052584, 24 hour low: 13.26911, 24 hour high: 13.55000, 24 hour vwap: 13.44979
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5438 @ 0.00057644 = 3.1347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00057644 = 7.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4863 @ 0.00057693 = 2.8056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056364 = 2.4355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10399 @ 0.00056337 = 5.8585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5480 @ 0.00056272 = 3.0837 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 875 @ 0.00333151 = 2.9151 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056681 = 2.4492 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17317 @ 0.00056674 = 9.8142 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9612 @ 0.00056272 = 5.4089 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056299 = 2.4327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11508 @ 0.00056272 = 6.4758 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13877 @ 0.00056033 = 7.7757 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16664 @ 0.00056 = 9.3318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.0005587 = 1.1699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0005587 = 6.8999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15376 @ 0.00056021 = 8.6138 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28824 @ 0.00056105 = 16.1717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00056105 = 5.0775 BTC [+]
gigavps: or evening where you are :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7498 @ 0.0005587 = 4.1891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3202 @ 0.00055643 = 1.7817 BTC [-]
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded.
markedathome: just had a thought, wonder if anyone is doing something along these lines with assets/dividends to avoid glbse probs.
markedathome: 1) electrum style asset register where priv keys are stored with the user,
markedathome: priv keys are used to buy/sell against a register?
markedathome: can't see how bitcoin/litecoin global /btc.to etc are avoiding all the glbse style damage.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00055839 = 2.4011 BTC [+]
gigavps: unless all exchanges start to dox their clientele and do proper reporting for different countries, they will eventually come under the thumb of tax reguators
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056077 = 2.4231 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19454 @ 0.00056105 = 10.9147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055873 = 2.4143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4525 @ 0.00055839 = 2.5267 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11304 @ 0.0005563 = 6.2884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2296 @ 0.0005563 = 1.2773 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25754 @ 0.00055554 = 14.3074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000561 = 2.4241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3172 @ 0.00056105 = 1.7797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00056145 = 1.8528 BTC [+]
markedathome: anyone know what the minimum btc trade on mtgox is? I appear to be getting an unreadable red message with Ple|Gre|Equ cut off by the stupid layering html scheme that has a background with a higher priority...
imsaguy: markedathome: classic.mtgox.com
jurov: um, nobody added a new GPG story past 2 weeks?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 383 @ 0.00333151 = 1.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2750 @ 0.00336849 = 9.2633 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00339513 = 5.0927 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17 @ 0.0034 = 0.0578 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056119 = 2.4249 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20929 @ 0.00056145 = 11.7506 BTC [+]
smickles: jurov: yeah, I got halfway thru a story, then haven't had time since :(
smickles: I modeled mine off of "Ragged Dick"
smickles: and I hope to finish it sometime soon and publish it regardless of the MP contest
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055836 = 2.4127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00055831 = 2.8474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5346 @ 0.00055554 = 2.9699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6083 @ 0.00055198 = 3.3577 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055219 = 2.386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10979 @ 0.00055198 = 6.0602 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00056111 = 1.5711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00056111 = 0.8534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00056145 = 0.0118 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19358 @ 0.0005621 = 10.8811 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: markedathome congratulations, you've sorta half-done mpex.
mircea_popescu: <markedathome> just had a thought, wonder if anyone is doing something along these lines with assets/dividends to avoid glbse probs.
markedathome: sorry - i thought you thought that i had posted in the thread above.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise yes, gpg is the correct way to handle that.
dub: mircea_popescu: ignoring the 'joke' defense jgarzik answers pretty well
dub: wrt the joke defense, its a pet annouyance that people seem to think an unidentifiably sarcastic remark equals humour, notwithstanding, parroting the most commonly held myths about bitcoin hardly even qualifies as that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056189 = 2.4279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005619 = 2.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 726 @ 0.0005621 = 0.4081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11682 @ 0.00056762 = 6.6309 BTC [+]
dub: and 'any PR is good PR'? please
dub: I'd have to think about it, not your girl. while I usually agree and get a few chuckles the delivery is often counter productive
dub: maybe Meni despite his problems
mircea_popescu: heh. ok, i'm abandoning this conversation, you're beyond confused.
mircea_popescu: although we'll know better once they hit a major crisis
markedathome: they aren't PR as such, but they do their own business pr IIRC. they are good for their business and sometimes intercede in other business events. don't know about their abilities as bitcoin proponents unless there are some audio / vids around
mircea_popescu: markedathome the only point was about which pr is good/bad.
markedathome: is evorhees the one who did the new hampshire thing back in march / april this year?
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACOG] 1602 @ 0.05710061 = 91.4752 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACOG] 898 @ 0.05713408 = 51.3064 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.AWHG] 1000 @ 0.0670108 = 67.0108 BTC
dub: looking increasingly like im not going to have a house this week
dub: agent is being a dick, going to withdraw our offer if he hasnt communicated in the next 3 hours
mircea_popescu: maybe that 16 yo 7/11 clerk he's been eyeing for weeks finaly gave it out in the parking lot.
dub: well for the ~$50k commision im sure he could rent a number of 16 y/o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056054 = 2.4221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00056025 = 12.5496 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00055198 = 1.1476 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 291 @ 0.27682136 = 80.555 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 159 @ 0.27703788 = 44.049 BTC [+]
jurov: i almost got another one, but the writer bailed out off the project
jurov: dunno, it's not education exactly. i used to wrote hilarious essays as a child
jurov: then it got worn off somehow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00055716 = 5.0423 BTC [+]
dub: thats cool, firebug in the coud
jurov: if that IBAN thing resembles anything like bank account they'll require IDs pretty soon
mircea_popescu: and ofcourse it does, that's what iban is, euro acct number.
jurov: they don't specifically mention that anywhere
davout: jurov: what is your question ?
jurov: davout, whether you're going to ask IDs
davout: we already ask for IDs if you deposit more than 250€
davout: or if you withdraw to a bank acct
jurov: thanks. that information is quite hard to find.
davout: it's buried in the AML/KYC policy in the ToS
davout: i agree it could be a little clearer
davout: unlike mtgox we don't freeze funds if you refuse to ID
davout: we simply send funds back from where they came
davout: which is basically what the law is saying
davout: mtgox does lots of shit it isn't legally required to do
davout: theoretically we should ID everyone all the time
davout: but we told our financial partner that it would just not work in the bitcoin world so they agreed on having a threshold under which we won't require IDs
dub: mircea_popescu: you own pingdom?
dub: yea, firebug is a ff extension that does teh same thing as pingdom locally
dub: alos, when I say 'in the cloud' its with tounge in cheek and means 'on the internet'
dub: becuase thats what cloud is a stupid marketing term for
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005675 = 2.4522 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16078 @ 0.00056762 = 9.1262 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles neither mpoe nor mpex nor i mm the new futures.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: save a copy of that post somewhere just in case it goes
Diablo-D3: I dont care where he got them or who he is, I do not imagine they will stay on the forums for very long
Ukto: can we ban Tiggr for now ?
Ukto: pigeons: dont make me sad bro :P
mircea_popescu: bfl is really inept. who the fuck announces their 3rd delay on the 2nd product after having promised "not to repeat the 1st product delays"
dub: ;;later tell tiggr join less channels tard
pigeons: which comes first, pirate repayment or bfl asics?
mod6: lol the ole 500,000 BTC question
Ukto: Diablo-D3: just wanted to say. You'r awsome. :P
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8879 @ 0.00057107 = 5.0705 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: so at some point Im going to have to put DMC on bitfunder
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16301 @ 0.00057107 = 9.309 BTC [-]
mod6: Thanks for posting that.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1330 @ 0.00056915 = 0.757 BTC [-]
Ukto: Diablo-D3: apparently, someone did not like you suggestion. :P
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ISP5] 1000 @ 0.10179952 = 101.7995 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1371 @ 0.00057579 = 0.7894 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1802 @ 0.00057808 = 1.0417 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Cause they're French. They don't have the technology."
Diablo-D3: they spent all their points on cooking skills instead
Diablo-D3: [03:31:08] <Ukto> Diablo-D3: apparently, someone did not like you suggestion. :P
davout: mircea_popescu: the french community frowns upon your shenanigans
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21579 @ 0.00057517 = 12.4116 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: ALSO WILL SOMEONE BAN NIGGR ALREADY?
davout: as long as they're not too close to my bike i'm fine
jurov: Ukto, so burnside is after you now? :D
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3121 @ 0.00057679 = 1.8002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4948 @ 0.00057808 = 2.8603 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00057815 = 1.3587 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2660 @ 0.00057989 = 1.5425 BTC [+]
davout: sucks your cooking points aren't that high
davout: there are some cooking spoons with +3 cooking for sale on SR
Diablo-D3: tits only improve cooking skills if they wear nothing but a cooking apron
Diablo-D3: IN MOTHER RUSSIA, WE COOK WITH THIS.
Diablo-D3: TODAY IS 12/12/12, THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH
jurov: Happy End Of The World Day!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8679 @ 0.00057989 = 5.0329 BTC [+]
jurov: i end to think the world already died. the old one.
Ukto: its about to come...
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057978 = 2.5052 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1013 @ 0.00057989 = 0.5874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5366 @ 0.00058078 = 3.1165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10330 @ 0.00058078 = 5.9995 BTC [+]
Ukto: I should probably walk away from teh forums
Ukto: before I manage to piss someone off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2956 @ 0.00338189 = 9.9969 BTC [-]
Ukto: I think I suck at PR :P
Ukto: tell me how bad it is
Ukto: I just get mad about my writing being crap
pigeons: its good ukto, just write less :)
Ukto: MUST HAVE 100 PAGE RETORTS
Ukto: will cause ppl to want to reply more
jurov: Ukto, i decided to refrain from in-depth analyzing of burnside's stuff and just write about coinbr. I recommend similar approach
Ukto: lesson I learned years ago on forums
Ukto: then id/when a troll picks up on it
Ukto: and respond to everyone else
Ukto: jurov: meh, he posted in bitfunders launch thread
Ukto: I had to offer something back as a thank you. :)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00058093 = 3.2218 BTC [+]
Ukto: as I said, I have nothing aginst him, never ment to make it seem that way. Just responding.
jurov: not sure if you understood me
Ukto: and I just wrote some shitty english
jurov: plainly, analyzing about the belize stuff is just wasting your time
jurov: leave that to mpoe-rp., she's paid to do it
Ukto: did you see, I got an eye roll from someone? :P
Ukto: while I was writing the response, his post kept comming to mind. :P
Ukto: In fact, I now feel the urge to respond to it
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3046 @ 0.00058195 = 1.7726 BTC [+]
Ukto: "At least they're honest ::)"
Ukto: WHY is a smiley face.. an eyeroll animation1?!?
Ukto: or is that waht 4 eyes is
jurov: Ukto, that 5:10am reply is really fine, don't see any problem wit it
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057215 = 2.4723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8279 @ 0.00057214 = 4.7367 BTC [-]
Ukto: damn it.. now its 6:10am
Ukto: just syncd... not even 60 seconds
Ukto: where are you seeing that?
Ukto: Diablo-D3: did you like my (just edited) post to friedcat ? :P
Diablo-D3: yeah, I saw it before you posted it in here
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1505 @ 0.00332457 = 5.0035 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00057582 = 0.4532 BTC [+]
Graet: oh looks like i should submit a claim to DMC
Graet: wonder how many i had lol
Ukto: didnt you say you were going to give them to me? :P
Diablo-D3: graet: well, theres 320 not claimed yet
Graet: i *think* i had like 40
Graet: do you have a list with addy u can check?
Graet: i'll email or something :)
Diablo-D3: just give me the first 3 digits of the address
Diablo-D3: you had 70 shares, and its already in here
Ukto: he'll eventually throw something at me :P
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Ukto: when he decides to stop staying silent :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00057582 = 1.1395 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 500 @ 0.12483526 = 62.4176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.15545821 = 77.7291 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 580 @ 0.09155695 = 53.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057219 = 2.4724 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6973 @ 0.00057214 = 3.9895 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056935 = 2.4602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1379 @ 0.00056915 = 0.7849 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 940 @ 0.06441525 = 60.5503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10037 @ 0.00056942 = 5.7153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2896 @ 0.0005757 = 1.6672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005692 = 2.4595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00056915 = 6.7074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00056697 = 3.4585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 661 @ 0.12418574 = 82.0868 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29035 @ 0.00056697 = 16.462 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is cute. what's the point of having something that makes 3 btc a month listed as a security ?
jcpham: sounds like gpu mining
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5285 @ 0.00056473 = 2.9846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16615 @ 0.00056473 = 9.383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11347 @ 0.000564 = 6.3997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 90 @ 0.12361654 = 11.1255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 10 @ 0.09249376 = 0.9249 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you know, your drama timeline isnt really correct
Diablo-D3: Remember, I bought back half the shares before the glbse collapse
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12097 @ 0.00056309 = 6.8117 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1425 @ 0.00056439 = 0.8043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00056441 = 1.6368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6575 @ 0.00056523 = 3.7164 BTC [+]
dub: jurov: he started tweeting
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9329 @ 0.00056523 = 5.273 BTC [+]
dub: I predict that lulz will ensue
Diablo-D3: I cleaned out all the bfl crap from the custom hardware forum
Diablo-D3: bfl can have one thread and thats it
dub: you should delete all posts except for a DMC one
iz: jcpham: i cracked RSA in a similar way one... just guessed the private key.. :b
jcpham: i had several people tell me yesterday that wouldn't work
iz: yeah, those types of locks aren't very secure, espesically if you can see the key
jcpham: the long story is this server was in ocean city, nj when the hurricane came through
jcpham: 1st floor, 4 blocks from the coast 18 inches above the water line
jcpham: it got shipped to me and the people that shipped it are incompetent
Bugpowder: Anybody watching satoshidice today?
Bugpowder: Up 11,000 bitcoins profit in the last 24 hours
zerokwel: i played that game so much when i was younger
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12041 @ 0.00056729 = 6.8307 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00056729 = 2.4393 BTC [+]
B0g4r7: Looks like nefario erroneously sent me some extra BTC.
B0g4r7: What a comedy of compound errors.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1247 @ 0.00057082 = 0.7118 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: pigeons: The more time passes since the last time everyone saw pirate, the less chance IMO of him paying back. On the other hand, strictly speaking I would say "before" an event which I think will never happen is an ordering of events that I couldn't really bet on anyway.
midnightmagic: semantically it seems wrong, but I couldn't tell you how I would phrase it any other way. :-)
markedathome: B0g4r7: if you don't send it back you won't get included on the lists. Of course the fact that nefario hasn't bothered to email the people who've been paid double, and you have to hunt down the payback address, is of course, nothing to worry about
midnightmagic: So I guess.. the possibilities are: 1) bfl doesn't deliver ever, pirate pays, 2) bfl delivers, but pirate pays first, 3) bfl doesn't deliver ever, pirate never pays, 3) bfl delivers, pirate never pays.
kakobrekla: they will both deliver. bfl a finger in the ass. pirate a fist.
midnightmagic: i would like to point out that people thought the same thing the first time bfl made weird claims that could only be possible in exceptional circumstances.
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markedathome: 3) <--- bfl doesn't deliver ever, pirate never pays, 3) <--- bfl delivers, pirate never pays.
B0g4r7: Yea, I don't care about being on any lists. I had no assets.
B0g4r7: If he contacts me and asks for it back, I'll send it along. He has my email.
mircea_popescu: <Diablo-D3> Remember, I bought back half the shares before the glbse collapse << 1 btc per ?
markedathome: though I can't help thinking it is a Douglas Adams H2G2 character
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> Up 11,000 bitcoins profit in the last 24 hours << is it one of those cases where they only pay the losers cause some bets are stuck or w/e and it seems they made a killing ?
jcpham: oh em gee wordpress accepts bitty bitty bit coins
mircea_popescu: <B0g4r7> What a comedy of compound errors. << lol! you mean just now ?!
mircea_popescu: jcpham wp is quite the scam. a domain costs like 30 usd through them
jcpham: i pay gandi a few hundred a year
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kakobrekla: i know the people needed but prolly cant pay them enough
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah. that guy suggesting formal proof is actually a very smart grad who could prolly do it, but... yeah.
mircea_popescu: unless it gets going it won't be possible tgo pay them
mircea_popescu: jcpham ahahaha! in your place i'd have just drilled the lock. well done.
jcpham: the funny thing is that I don't own that equipment
jcpham: the owners a) didn't try very hard to provide the key b) provided the wrong key after 2 weeks
B0g4r7: I'd heard you can just take a ballpoint pen apart and use the plastic body tube to open a barrel lock.
B0g4r7: Hm, interesting idea on the code reviewing service.
B0g4r7: One problem I see is that, to do a proper review, the reviewer should already possess a thorough understanding of the codebase.
B0g4r7: Not understanding the history of the codebase, why things were done in the ways they were, the intent behind certain pieces, etc, it's hard to do a decent code review.
mircea_popescu: it seems to me the reverse : foreign eyes are unlikely to make the same mistaken assumptions
B0g4r7: Well, that's true too.
B0g4r7: I guess I'm picturing big complex projects that have a lot of big complex subsystems that all interact.
mircea_popescu: for all the pretense BTC coding has trouble with race conditions and not keeping things in ramdisks
B0g4r7: So, like, if you already know what IMediaMessageModel does and is meant to be used for, it's easy to review a piece of code that uses it.
mircea_popescu: obviously the review service could grow with the BTC to the point it's a university in its own, 500+ tenured professors etc.
B0g4r7: Seems like it could have value though. Especially for smaller codebases.
midnightmagic: wtf. another mining hashrate company with a pretend backing of 1 single bfl fpga?
B0g4r7: Or those that are more [properly] modularized.
midnightmagic: how the fuck many people are going to be suckered before they stop buying someone else's mining?
Ukto: anyone know what guruvan is smoking crack on my thread about?
B0g4r7: There's one born every minute.
Ukto: litecoinglobal "converting" ltc ot "ltcl" or something
B0g4r7: LTC Lite. Won't full you up, never slows you down.
Ukto: "Check the home page on litecoinglobal.com - it clearly states that you convert LTC to LITS to use in the securities exchange game available on the site."
Ukto: I see nothing on that site...
Ukto: about convert anything
mircea_popescu: <midnightmagic> wtf. another mining hashrate company with a pretend backing of 1 single bfl fpga? << those won't go away lol.
jcpham: i should've made a mining asset
jcpham: at least my rigs have been running this whole time
midnightmagic: $2500 invested?! how the hell do they ever expect to make their money back on just one single?!
jcpham: free capital for mining!
mircea_popescu: the biggest winner aka gigavps is mired down in his current legal crap and i doubt overall he has a net + to show for it
mircea_popescu: and all the rest of the losers made less than what their time's worth
mircea_popescu: such as PsychoticBoy's amuysing 3 btc a month "asset".
jcpham: i could buy 3btc/day otc and call it an asset
Ukto: mircea_popescu: to each their own, right? :P
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic isn't he stuck paying a lawyer to review documents ?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I don't know. I didn't read anything about that on any of the channels I'm in.
jcpham: ukto litecoinglobal has soooo much text to read
midnightmagic: I guess so! Where should I be looking for this then? :-)
jcpham: I CTRL+F for LITS and found nana
mircea_popescu: giga ended up trying to reconstruct the lists nefario gave ghim and verify them through having people submit info (ids, taxids, affidavits)
B0g4r7: He's going ahead with the AML BS that Nef gave up on?
jcpham: not to be critical of anyone or thing (assets)
mircea_popescu: which caused people to thow a fit, esp since many are not in the us and it can cost a good chunk in the eu
jcpham: i haven't attempted anything like this because i do not have the time for it
Ukto: jcpham: he said "it clearly states tthat you convert LTC to LITS" ... find says 'convert' is not on the page, neitehr is 'LITS'
jcpham: i'm not serious enough about this economy for it
Ukto: so I dont know what hes smoking
jcpham: at least i realize it though
Ukto: and burnside even ignored him
jcpham: i would need tiome to devote to managing an asset
jcpham: maybe the part-timers should stop
jcpham: at least i know i'm half-ass
mircea_popescu: not just btc. they should stop everything, fucking, going to school, ghoing to work, everything
PsychoticBoy: <mircea_popescu> such as PsychoticBoy's amuysing 3 btc a month "asset".<< it is only for fun not that I need to earn anything with it, I have a day time job
mircea_popescu: but i'm more interested in your response to deprived's post if any ?
jcpham: so PsychoticBoy admits his assets is a game
jcpham: not to make light of it
jcpham: i just wonder how many more assets were games
B0g4r7: I think they have to be, to be more legal.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Ah, I see. You're directly involved via an MPOE passthrough? Are you running the passthrough or just the exchange on which the passthrough operates?
mircea_popescu: there's a reason people keep whining about "easy to use"
jcpham: i'm not even saying it is a bad thing
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the passthrough held some shares, it's been dissolved meanwhile. also look in the forum for discussion, it was a little dramatique
midnightmagic: also, tell your PR lady to ransom another boobs pic. :)
PsychoticBoy: but I have to leave you guys, I have to work, later
jcpham: "tits mcghee" aka mpoe-pr needs to show more boob
midnightmagic: PsychoticBoy: You implied that there would be additional mining devices by using the plural "(`s)" in the original IPO.
mircea_popescu: need i remind everyone the forum failed to delivered when she offered to show pics ?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Double down! :-) Wait how much were they ransom'd for?
mircea_popescu: it was early on, back when the howler hole thought it's too cool for her or something
jcpham: pornhub/brazzers guy got arrested for tax evasion yesterday
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i routinely gave them as examples of really shitty porn lol
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: In the usual case. But rarely.. "some" of their stuff was fucking gold.
jcpham: need to get in touch with him, tell him about bitcoin
PsychoticBoy: so I implied nothing, I never promised anything
mircea_popescu: "they're estimating his income in the hundred million range. personally I think they grossly underestimating it."
PsychoticBoy: theymos already said I wont get a Scammer Tag so Jeuk suck my ballz
B0g4r7: google "just how big is youporn"
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 55 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <smickles> :o
jcpham: well obviously you give away the free porn to drive traffic to the paysites
jcpham: but i dunno why anyone would pay for porn
mircea_popescu: paysites are making jack shit. 100mn was possible in the 90s not in 2012
jcpham: i can't see anyone spending 29.95/month for porn vids anymore
jcpham: they'd need to be real twisted
mircea_popescu: i spend 20-30 dollars on pretty much any game i try on general principle.
jcpham: i'll spend 20-30 bucks on just about anything
midnightmagic: That's such b-s. Nobody in their right fucking mind would pay for just one bfl single mining in perpetuity at $2500 per.
B0g4r7: I thought an FPGA Single was $599...
midnightmagic: And msg #4 in that thread doesn't say anything about how the current shareholders won't see any profit from a second bfl unit.
mircea_popescu: <PsychoticBoy> theymos already said I wont get a Scammer Tag so Jeuk suck my ballz
jcpham: maybe he's bad at math.
midnightmagic: It's just as misleading as goat was with his "hashrate" b-s which was really just an odds-less bet against difficulty going up.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11286 @ 0.00056112 = 6.3328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6872 @ 0.00056027 = 3.8502 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Ooo that's some good writing. I like it when they're poetic.
B0g4r7: I doubt any former glbse assets have "succeeded"
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACOG] 650 @ 0.05713408 = 37.1372 BTC [+]
B0g4r7: As in produced a positive ROI for shareholders.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic it's funny cause it's pot calling kettle black
B0g4r7: Is that since listing?
mircea_popescu: yeah over lifetime, was listed i think april dissolved early oct.
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ASBG] 400 @ 0.11396016 = 45.5841 BTC
jcpham: my glbse haircut wasn't entirely as bad as i expected
midnightmagic: wtf man, still shaking my head at psychoboy.. I wonder if he has an -otc profile.
mircea_popescu: 16913 Kelticfox 19 ElevatedDownfall 2012-12-08 12:20:17 8 Pleasure doing business again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again.
jcpham: ;;rate ElevatedDownfall 3 has repaid [calc 6.3/7] of his BTC loan so far
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ElevatedDownfall has changed from 2 to 3.
jcpham: ;;rated ElevatedDownfall
gribble: You rated user ElevatedDownfall on Wed Dec 12 13:55:29 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: has repaid 0.9 of his BTC loan so far.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu All the transactions are in the blockchain and look legit. None of the "UNKNOWN" status ones. Everything confirmed.
jcpham: ;;rate ElevatedDownfall 3 has repaid 6.3BTC of a 7BTC loan so far. No interest yet, either :(
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ElevatedDownfall has changed from 3 to 3.
Bugpowder: Some are listed as OVER MAX, when there were double 250BTC bets on the same address on the same magic number, but some of those were winners and some losers and I don't think they are counted
jcpham: that was repayment on the second loan
Bugpowder: So, S.DICE would pay out 14,500 BTC, 4.3% dividend this month, IF the month ended now.
smickles: < midnightmagic> What's smickles doing? << launching a bitcoin focused accounting company
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 39 @ 0.12999995 = 5.07 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Who would have thought all the futures action would be in soybeans and corn?
smickles: mircea_popescu: did you get that 'later tell' i sent you?
smickles: oh, i need to notice things it seems
smickles: or i did't get a hilight near it :|
Bugpowder: oh sweet, someone is buying my gold futures. I cut my prices on gold, nasdaq and crude. The 2% insurance fee is going to hurt a bit though.
mircea_popescu: anyway : neither mpoe nor myself are mm'ing the new futures
Bugpowder: I need to get home to read that article.
smickles: jezus fuck data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAJoAAAAtCAIAAADZUuWNAAACtElEQVR4nO2b63KEMAiFodP3f2X6Y1dFkkBumkv5ptPR1tXIyYmEuEhE4CwNIhwi/o5tSSkIyHcJ/n1fRPz+JgKAn8GtcVpAFNsu58rwB6W7cwc+ih66upzrwzzqcm6Fy7kVLudWuJxb4XIuCGLqPy7napxloBgu51IEZSDB7DVbUaT97xBdKsbWTtydq3EvAwlczgVJr2m6nFvhcm7F7KmQzoOr2SJvXOSdDXfnVsznTmmLQc1Ykx3dma6Bbc92cqo1sOTxqV3lU/znabIvUSvny/eTiVUDix9z/qW0KzyH0kiVvdwZvAol4aERIcvpCh1RLqE00mIHOYnfplIDE6ER2utdoe9oFEh1zbj0RlqMl/Mep+
smickles: ;;calc 13.3903/[ticker --last]
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: usagi is the guy who did the insurance policy for PsychoticBoy right? CPA or whatever?
midnightmagic: And there he is in the scammer thread defending PsychoticBoy.
midnightmagic: Have these fucktards ever heard of the notion of conflict of interest?!
midnightmagic: How many knobs are being polished in one big circle-jerk, I wonder, but am not curious enough to bother finding out.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic in general, if someone is flaming at mpoe-pr it's already a good indication he's part of the cj
midnightmagic: I'm unreasonably irritated at the notion that PsychoticBoy isn't going to get a scammer tag for that.
mircea_popescu: there's > 50 people who peeled the glbse muppets of a couple to a few hundred btc.
midnightmagic: Revealed intent after the fact was that he sold $2500 of shares for an item that was $1300.
midnightmagic: That's fraud right there, because he never clarified. He used weasel words to suggest he was going to use the money to expand. He never actually said, "No, it's just for one single."
midnightmagic: All those >50 people need scammer tags too if they're that blatant about it.
mircea_popescu: in general, if it's not 10k btc + it seems hardly worth the hassle.
midnightmagic: Something about the nature of small-time thieves bothers me more than the pirate scam thing does.
mircea_popescu: just because btc is open source game currency does not make it any less game currency.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: "II.2. The Rota supersedes the jurisdiction of any other court, institution, group, organisation, corporation, reigning monarch, city fool etc." :-)
Ukto: mircea_popescu: except that the games claims to have no monetary value, wheras his site does not claim bitcoins have no monetary value.
Ukto: the biggest issue is just that hes trading actual corporate stock on his 'fake' site
Ukto: and contridicting the whole thing
midnightmagic: HAH "Even more, he was paying himself for the time that was required to pay himself"
midnightmagic: .. thinking about it, it would be the quickest way to convince me to exit bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: Ukto nobody has the authority to make such claims in bitcoin.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3671 @ 0.00056027 = 2.0568 BTC [-]
Ukto: that bitocin has no monetary value?
Ukto: youare 100% correct atthat
midnightmagic: Purity of philosophical intent would be compromised.
mircea_popescu: the reason wow makes the claim it doesn't is because by not making it they'd claim the opposite
Ukto: burnside can not claim BTC has no value (which is being traded for virtually realistic shares of his real corporation)
Ukto: I agree with you? on all points?
Ukto: which of my comments am I now contridicting?
Ukto: i think that is where my confusion is comming from. :)
Ukto: alright lets go with that then :P
Ukto: I dont have apoitn sometimes
Ukto: i think he was trying to justify his sites as the same as wow and secondlife
Ukto: and I was just pointing out they are very different animals
mircea_popescu: “Tubes are going to destroy our industry,” says Sunny Leone, 29, an Indian-American knockout who is celebrating eight nominations this evening. “Fans don’t understand that if they don’t pay for porn, we can’t make a living. They’ll have to watch crazy European porn.”
Ukto: when you compare their behaviours and actions side by side
pigeons: ;;google sunny leone pictures
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1468 @ 0.00336715 = 4.943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1852 @ 0.00338189 = 6.2633 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 396680 @ 0.003395 = 1346.7286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057053 = 2.4653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12179 @ 0.00057082 = 6.952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005705 = 2.4651 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2974 @ 0.00057082 = 1.6976 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Berlin (Germany) - A German man became so frustrated at his computer that he threw it out of his window, and the police reaction was essentially "we understand".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057397 = 2.4801 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00057416 = 3.4903 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53866353 = 538.6635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62061168 = 620.6117 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00057416 = 10.5071 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1168 @ 0.00057416 = 0.6706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9782 @ 0.00057483 = 5.623 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057332 = 2.4773 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1623 @ 0.00056471 = 0.9165 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i was hoping for the bitmag stuff to bridge us over till the weekend and then maybe bfl stuff
mircea_popescu: but seriously, the first fizzled, the 2nd is like... meh...
mircea_popescu: what the hell, you telling me bit4x trades 10-100k btc a month nao ?!
kakobrekla: noone can do a serious dent in the book
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00056651 = 2.436 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the simplest solution would maybe adding text reading : This not valid past X date, where X is maybe 24 hoursi n the future
mircea_popescu: this way a merchant would be pretty boneheaded to allow it. in conjunction with a "To be used exclusively on Y" it should do the trick.
Ukto: mircea_popescu: ROFLOL
mircea_popescu: nanotube but yes it's why i've never used that method, only ;;eauth
nanotube: mircea_popescu: yea the signed message bit could use some foolproofing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.003395 = 9.8455 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00057059 = 5.7915 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00057219 = 11.4724 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11778 @ 0.00057457 = 6.7673 BTC [+]
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Ukto has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate kakobrekla 3 #bitcoin-assets, smpake, bit4x and so forth
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 2 to 3.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user znort987 has changed from 1 to 1.
mircea_popescu: much to my surprise kakobrekla is actually older than me
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7842 @ 0.00056903 = 4.4623 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00057457 = 5.6434 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 406 @ 0.00057483 = 0.2334 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53843543 = 538.4354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.62039873 = 620.3987 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: tbh i don't think there's anything wrong with public discussion, leaves a record
Ukto: I just wanted to see if he will end it. :P
Ukto: Would you could you, on a train? would you could you, please refrain? :P
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.13522323 = 135.2232 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.18543554 = 185.4355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.24475155 = 244.7516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005746 = 2.4828 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3651 @ 0.00057483 = 2.0987 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.003395 = 13.2405 BTC [+]
Ukto: burnside: I am still curious why the servers in panama and not the us or belize?
Ukto: esp. when you have your own hosting company
burnside: eh, belize didn't have any good options
Ukto: I've been poking fun at you all day in here. :P
burnside: panama seemed at the time to have good connectivity and the boxes were cheap
burnside: I didn't want to expose the hosting company to the risk.
Ukto: wouldnt it just be another customer?
burnside: I could tell 'them' that. Do you think they would belive me?
Ukto: or are you afriad your shareholdings would tie things together too much?
Ukto: so you are worried about 'them' :P
burnside: nah, honestly, I went into this just wanting to code a cool site and sell it.
burnside: nobody bought, and I had already coded it.
Ukto: noithing like taking on another project you didnt want :P
Ukto: the css updates were nice tho
burnside: I have to grow it to where someone else thinks it's worth taking over.
Ukto: well, just keep selling your shares at 200l each, and youll get there :P
burnside: I was surprised how easy css3 makes it... it's been a while since I've done html/css stuff.
Ukto: kakobrekla: whats that?
kakobrekla: 02:17.13 ( burnside ) I have to grow it to where someone else thinks it's worth taking over.
burnside: I've been clear in many threads across many posts that we're looking for large investors to become involved.
burnside: investors outside the US that are willing to do the AML share registration and be corporate officers, etc.
kakobrekla: 02:16.28 ( burnside ) nah, honestly, I went into this just wanting to code a cool site and sell it.
burnside: yup, one leads into the other.
burnside: think for a second about how I get from (A) to (B)
burnside: (A) get investors, let them do the business pieces. (B) I get to be the programmer and do the part that is fun for me.
Ukto: er D? none of the above. lol
burnside: I did my part (B), and (A) never showed.
Ukto: well, at least you got someone in belize to act as a local director
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burnside: I'll keep doing my bit, and hopefully (A) will show.
burnside: yeah, we have a local director and local nominee shareholder.
Ukto: Although, wont Belize shut the corporation down eventually? Or is it a non profit?
burnside: I do have to file annual tax returns
burnside: not sure what the tax rate is.
Ukto: most countries require that a company has to show actual profits (Sometimes of amounts) within X years, or they shut down the corp and deem it as a hobby
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 400 @ 0.18676245 = 74.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 600 @ 0.23601245 = 141.6075 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 800 @ 0.29397906 = 235.1832 BTC [+]
burnside: Since the company itself will only be converting enough commodities to cover costs, I'm not super worried about it.
burnside: We will have to show a profit in 5 years, but that becomes an exercise to tackle in year 4.5.
Ukto: you said the company does not profit in currency
Ukto: "Further, we are not exchanging virtual goods for real currency. So there is no exposure there either. The company does not profit in currency. "
Ukto: So I was confused by that
burnside: well, there's right now. there's tomorrow. there's next month. next year. and 4.5 years from now. which do you want?
Ukto: The commodity has a value, the govts generally want you to est. that value when you give it to people
Ukto: there is bartering value
burnside: that is true. in the us you're supposed to track the bartering value
Ukto: i think you may have covered in the tax stuff with gigamining you said
Ukto: when you give out a commodity to people
Ukto: and you are supposed to declare
Ukto: that with your businesses taxes, as an expense of sorts
Ukto: you can get that value easily, by taking the amounts held back and converted to currency
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45815 @ 0.003395 = 155.5419 BTC [+]
burnside: you have to keep in mind that for BTC Trading Co, I have to approach taxes from the perspective of the Belize gov't.
burnside: For me personally, I have to approach taxes from the US gov't.
burnside: So yes, I will be reporting any profit on any crypto that I convert to USD.
dub: man I just got the shit shot out of me playing paintball
dub: including a point blank to the back of the head team kill
gribble: Error: 'tumblr.com' is not a valid nick.
dub: tumblr.com has no A record
dub: its just the a records too, ns/mx is fine
dub: and should take ~7 seconds to fix
dub: they suck and gay nigger assoc of america?
mircea_popescu: "when i use my picture viewer i can click through some pictures then my mouse turns into that little loading circle thing and wont go away and it gets like a grey tint over the picture. If i try using the task manager i try to end the program but it dosent go away and the x wont work either? and when i was using itunes i was playing a song and then i tried switching to another one and it started making a loud noise tha
mircea_popescu: t did not sound good and i couldnt shut down my computer at that point like the power button wouldnt even work and i had to take the battery out." this just for dub.
dub: think im growing another knee where I got hit at close range on the knee
dub: a purple and black version
dub: mircea_popescu: wat?
dub: i once worked internet helpdesk dude, you cant teach me about pebkac
mircea_popescu: i never did, but it amuses me to torment people with it
dub: funnily I see more retardation in the engineering and security space than residential internet users
dub: [13:53] <Diablo-D3> I cleaned out all the bfl crap from the custom hardware forum
dub: 13:53] <Diablo-D3> bfl can have one thread and thats it
mircea_popescu: a midnightmagic - usagi pit fight, i could watch that.
midnightmagic: If he provided the insurance, he has no business commenting in there and vouching for Douchebag McDoucherson.
mircea_popescu: "All you mining hashrate-based companies were betting against your customers"
mircea_popescu: not only is this correct, but let's not forget the scam was actually initiated, proof-of-concepted and prototyped by that asshole meni rosenfeld
midnightmagic: Also, usagi would be crushed like an insect, were I a warlike individual. I am not, and so what would happen is, the crowd would yell "Fight" and I'd offer usagi some coffee and sit down for a game of cribbage.
mircea_popescu: who is possibly the brain behind half btc scams to date.
midnightmagic: I meant that as a querulous-but-interested question-mark.
mircea_popescu: then hk did something, then giga did his in april, then a bunch of smaller guys
mircea_popescu: including psychoticboy, ciuciu and the rest of the follower crowd
dub: anyone with an idea of costs to putting a dev or two under nda?
dub: I assume its fairly boilerplate stuff with a few lawyer hours required
mircea_popescu: cost as for the nda drafting or as to the dev signing ?
dub: shouldnt be any cost to making the dev sign?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00057335 = 13.0724 BTC [-]
dub: job is under nda, take or leave mr dev
dub: I don't get paid more when I sign NDAs
mircea_popescu: if they do you can probably expect a significant paycheck increase.
mircea_popescu: problem with being a dev is that previous ndas tend to fuck you over when you start new projects
mircea_popescu: in the case old employer wants to fuck over a start-up, he can
dub: it sorta comes with teh whole design engineer PD
midnightmagic: Well, here's the thing. If the price is competitive, then ROI is possible.
mircea_popescu: the trick to making one acceptable is drafting it VERY narrowly
mircea_popescu: which is why you may need a decent lawyer and some time.
dub: im not asking how much I have to pay a de
dub: oh, I was thinking 10's
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic honestly, i don't think any glbse user has any recourse for anything whatsoever. the contracts weren't even signed ffs (when they existed)
mircea_popescu: it was a joke through and through. so, they paid, they played the investors. the beer's drunk, the smoke's smoked, bye.
midnightmagic: Legitimizing preying on ignorance means that you legitmize preying on anyone. It presupposes that the only person who shouldn't be blamed for losing their own money is basically God.
midnightmagic: Therefore, any fraud, against anyone, no matter how obtuse they were with their money management, is wrong.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's what glbse was. legitimizing preying on ignorance
mircea_popescu: deliberately inflating unwarranted presumptions of the suckers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00057343 = 3.9567 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: You Europeans have a really dim view of the people you call "suckers" I'm learning.
mircea_popescu: fine. deliberately inflating unwarranted presumptions of innocent ignoramuses apt to believe something is true because 50 different screen names all "Agree"
mircea_popescu: and the one pr two who say otherwise are "evil" because "different"
dub: midnightmagic: there are a couple of primary assumptions that are qutie different in say america to many other places
dub: midnightmagic: one is 'that person walkign the other way down the street probably doesnt want to kill me and take my shit'
dub: in eastern europe in particular that would be assumed false afaik
mircea_popescu: dub : earlier today was someone at the gate. guess who ?
mircea_popescu: cabdriver i had used 3 days prior. he was returning a scarf some slut forgot in his car.
dub: someone not tryign to kill and steal from you?
mircea_popescu: "he would have come sooner but it's kinda far out so he waited for a ride close"
midnightmagic: dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear.
dub: mircea_popescu: out of heart kindness or fear of you guttin ghim?
dub: midnightmagic: derp :)
mircea_popescu: ten years ago i'd have agreed with you on he later score, but fact is nobody knows me here
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00057137 = 6.2279 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and the last murder in this (300k pop) town was about 3 years ago
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3931 @ 0.00057489 = 2.2599 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: tun means cannon in romanian which makes this sorta funny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005715 = 2.4695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6279 @ 0.00057137 = 3.5876 BTC [-]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;calc 13.3903/[ticker --last]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.70000, Best ask: 13.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.70000, 24 hour volume: 38587.41290478, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.79989, 24 hour vwap: 13.61205
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assbot: [MPEX:X.EWTI] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.06666667 / 0.06678667 / 0.066794 (1061 shares, 70.86 BTC)
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mircea_popescu: that may be something to do, since it takes a little skill to use
smickles: only one or two people actually seem to talk to the organizer of such things
thestringpuller: i would have to create some account with a third party like you smickles
thestringpuller: and I'd have to get people to give you money to put in that account to put into MPBOR
thestringpuller: usually gas skyrockets every winter but this winter it didn't
mircea_popescu: "For what it's worth, I think bASIC should also have a scammer tag. I don't get how they had a working prototype and suddenly have no design."
Ukto: my family ownes mineral rights to alot of natural gas wells around texas etc
Ukto: if NG is not in demand
Ukto: they basically shut the wells down
Ukto: so when winter comes
Ukto: there are so many wells ready to pump, theres not enough demand
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057015 = 2.4636 BTC [+]
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Ukto: not doign a tree this year
Ukto: when the youngest is 3
Ukto: then ima piss teh wife off
Ukto: and get a flocked tree
Ukto: (the ones that have been sprayed with teh white shit)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8183 @ 0.00056959 = 4.661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2817 @ 0.00057277 = 1.6135 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057193 = 2.4713 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13670 @ 0.00057203 = 7.8197 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: for the shit stirrers to stir the f*cking shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056744 = 2.4519 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1171 @ 0.0005672 = 0.6642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9108 @ 0.0005668 = 5.1624 BTC [-]
Ukto: man.. I stop posting.. and the fourms go silent :P
Namjies: It's an illusion... but so long as you don't hear it.
Ukto: prolly would not have picked BF anywho tho
Namjies: By the way, I still lack 72 BTC funding for my loan. Anyone interested to lend me till the 10th of January?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.0005668 = 8.2469 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ima make so much money by diff not going over 9000 next year...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000572 = 2.4716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 230 @ 0.00057203 = 0.1316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00057288 = 5.2705 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.00057305 = 5.9345 BTC [+]
Namjies: Is that your impression of people mass buying ASICs?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00056684 = 1.8989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00056684 = 0.5504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7242 @ 0.0005668 = 4.1048 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13487 @ 0.00056631 = 7.6378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057202 = 2.4717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5579 @ 0.00057233 = 3.193 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057229 = 2.4729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17610 @ 0.00057233 = 10.0787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2269 @ 0.00057305 = 1.3003 BTC [+]
jcpham: sexy. also learned everytime i edit i spam twitter
mircea_popescu: then it was gonna be now and now it's gonna be january... it ain't happening
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056639 = 2.4474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8294 @ 0.00056631 = 4.697 BTC [-]
Namjies: Well on a sidenote, GLBSE giving out info wasn't happening either...
Namjies: Although it was also a possibility
Namjies: Seems it's going to be partial info so far.
Namjies: Well it's either not happening or getting at least screwed up somewhat.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056643 = 2.4475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14388 @ 0.00056631 = 8.1481 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9291 @ 0.00056471 = 5.2467 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00056793 = 10.8475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6536 @ 0.00056471 = 3.6909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11214 @ 0.00056203 = 6.3026 BTC [-]
dub: where is th elatest from bfl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22416 @ 0.00056203 = 12.5985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 784 @ 0.00056193 = 0.4406 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00056193 = 8.3166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10178 @ 0.00056589 = 5.7596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1504 @ 0.00056276 = 0.8464 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17096 @ 0.00056293 = 9.6239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056226 = 2.4295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4982 @ 0.00056861 = 2.8328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10060 @ 0.00056877 = 5.7218 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2040 @ 0.00056877 = 1.1603 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2613 @ 0.00056946 = 1.488 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24402 @ 0.00057002 = 13.9096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00056844 = 4.1053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056307 = 2.433 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00056274 = 10.3263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15114 @ 0.0005604 = 8.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 878 @ 0.00056651 = 0.4974 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056982 = 2.4622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15819 @ 0.00057002 = 9.0171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15332 @ 0.00057054 = 8.7475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00057038 = 1.9393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056044 = 2.4217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.0005604 = 2.7942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4128 @ 0.00056027 = 2.3128 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.00056019 = 7.2892 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00056009 = 0.5601 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53 @ 0.00056008 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056043 = 2.4216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19329 @ 0.00056008 = 10.8258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00056637 = 1.6142 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00056008 = 1.8583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6882 @ 0.00055966 = 3.8516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 921 @ 0.00057038 = 0.5253 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00057054 = 4.004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8878 @ 0.00057067 = 5.0664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5611 @ 0.0005707 = 3.2022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057045 = 2.4649 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5441 @ 0.0005707 = 3.1052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3988 @ 0.00057102 = 2.2772 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00057083 = 2.4666 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1935 @ 0.00057102 = 1.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13644 @ 0.00057146 = 7.797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11922 @ 0.00057146 = 6.8129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78 @ 0.0005717 = 0.0446 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: "Diablo-D3 | there are bfl posts everywhere that need to be dealt with" - why?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.0005717 = 5.9743 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5582 @ 0.00334312 = 18.6613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00334136 = 8.0193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00056776 = 6.5292 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00055997 = 2.4196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4998 @ 0.00055966 = 2.7972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2694 @ 0.00055949 = 1.5073 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1668 @ 0.00333738 = 5.5667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1797 @ 0.00335085 = 6.0215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 630 @ 0.003395 = 2.1389 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00056274 = 1.3506 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00056249 = 1.0805 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0005625 = 11.9813 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00056275 = 10.7485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10462 @ 0.00056419 = 5.9026 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056212 = 2.4289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18653 @ 0.00056207 = 10.4843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056397 = 2.4369 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5638 @ 0.00056419 = 3.1809 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1370 @ 0.0005717 = 0.7832 BTC [+]
Ukto: I think theymos should make a Troll tag
Ukto: and let ppl donate towards it on ppl
Ukto: so you would donate X btc to (person)
Ukto: once that person earns 10btc in troll donations
Ukto: they get Troll tagged
Graet: getting Graet ? i'm a Bitcoin-asset? you are floating me?
Ukto: now shut up and get back in the box
Ukto: need a club for ppl accused of being scammers that got away
Ukto: I think I made some big progress for BF tonight
Ukto: looks like I may have 1~3 new assets for BF
PsychoticBoy: lets call it a I got nothing to do so lets pollute some threads with bullshit¨ tag
Ukto: PsychoticBoy: you should take a brether and relax :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00056505 = 3.5598 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: some ppl on the forum make my blood boil, not only mpoe but lots of other mentally disabled ppl
Ukto: for some people, its their job
Ukto: I am backing off from the forums a bit
Ukto: you should set that as a title
Ukto: just shuev it ppls faces
Ukto: could mean any number of things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056228 = 2.4296 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5879 @ 0.00056208 = 3.3045 BTC [-]
Ukto: isnt that the point of forums?
PsychoticBoy: I dont care any more, ppl are taking to much drugs (silk road) bitcoin is bad hmmkay
PsychoticBoy: look at the replies ppl make on the forum, cant be natural
Ukto: havent watched since season 3 or so
Ukto: thought I did catch an episde of garrison as a woman screaming "Yeah! I'm a monkey! give this money what she wants! Put it in my monkey hole!"
Ukto: didnt know monkey hole was a real term for smething until then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00056504 = 2.4415 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8891 @ 0.00056505 = 5.0239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10309 @ 0.00056505 = 5.8251 BTC [+]
Ukto: i think he was venting lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6201 @ 0.00056772 = 3.5204 BTC [+]
Ukto: I was watching a youtube video
Ukto: was working out a deal for BF
Ukto: to get some good assets.. (kinda related to mpex) and trading volume
Ukto: but were still closing on the details. :)
Ukto: hoefully get to relesae details later today/tomorrow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6304 @ 0.00056772 = 3.5789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4771 @ 0.00056208 = 2.6817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6375 @ 0.00056207 = 3.5832 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00057057 = 9.015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00057057 = 1.7973 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30502 @ 0.0005717 = 17.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00057192 = 10.9809 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8562 @ 0.00057193 = 4.8969 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5059 @ 0.00057226 = 2.8951 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10899 @ 0.00057305 = 6.2457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00057311 = 6.8773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27419 @ 0.00057433 = 15.7476 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00057487 = 7.4158 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00057498 = 9.2572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00057508 = 10.4952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00057518 = 16.7953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00057518 = 11.8199 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00057519 = 15.5876 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1543 @ 0.00057582 = 0.8885 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00057661 = 11.0997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24613 @ 0.00057781 = 14.2216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00057795 = 13.8997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.000578 = 5.9534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00057817 = 13.0377 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00057821 = 10.4656 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25737 @ 0.00057858 = 14.8909 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00057868 = 12.3259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00057954 = 4.1437 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00057959 = 6.3175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00057969 = 5.0723 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13145 @ 0.00057996 = 7.6236 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00058009 = 12.0369 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00058024 = 7.4851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0005805 = 6.7338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12256 @ 0.00058051 = 7.1147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00058095 = 4.0376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00058095 = 9.8181 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00058115 = 6.6832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6989 @ 0.00058126 = 4.0624 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39550 @ 0.00058171 = 23.0066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00058188 = 6.3425 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11427 @ 0.00058195 = 6.6499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00058227 = 1.4266 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00058237 = 4.2513 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17045 @ 0.00058238 = 9.9267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54350 @ 0.00058258 = 31.6632 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6257 @ 0.00058265 = 3.6456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00058277 = 2.8556 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00058303 = 9.0953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35234 @ 0.00058318 = 20.5478 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4347 @ 0.00058376 = 2.5376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00058378 = 4.0281 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00058407 = 17.6389 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00058481 = 6.7253 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22294 @ 0.00058493 = 13.0404 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24811 @ 0.00058536 = 14.5234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00058574 = 11.2169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17998 @ 0.00058607 = 10.5481 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00058667 = 9.5334 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25071 @ 0.00058681 = 14.7119 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00058699 = 14.2345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00058726 = 8.2216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00058784 = 9.6406 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00058787 = 2.5843 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29666 @ 0.00058799 = 17.4433 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5814 @ 0.00058862 = 3.4222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00058907 = 2.1207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.0005891 = 16.6126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00058962 = 13.3549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21633 @ 0.00059022 = 12.7682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00059089 = 5.7021 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13209 @ 0.00059167 = 7.8154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00059263 = 9.1526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00059349 = 6.7955 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 847980 @ 0.0006 = 508.788 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: manufacturing is late August to September, 2012. The chips are supposed to be
mircea_popescu: deployed and start hashing in October to November, 2012.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing quite as grand as reading old asic corps threads.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00059638 = 10.9138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10235 @ 0.0006 = 6.141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0006 = 4.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9821 @ 0.0006 = 5.8926 BTC [+]
sgnb: mircea_popescu: why not currency futures?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.0005994 = 4.3157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20956 @ 0.0006 = 12.5736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.0005994 = 4.5554 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00059725 = 6.4503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34465 @ 0.0006 = 20.679 BTC [+]
B0g4r7: A million is chump change. Go for a quadrillion like those derivatives guys.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.47526087 = 475.2609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.40134783 = 401.3478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25837 @ 0.0006 = 15.5022 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 well i was talking about mkt value not about notional trade. also, 1 mn btc = 1 quadrillion soon enough :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.00059725 = 18.4849 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.DEC] 1 @ 0.0327929 BTC
B0g4r7: lol asics. So now ngzhang has confirmed that Avalon is also skipping the MPW step and going directly to full wafer production.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059757 = 2.5821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8079 @ 0.00059725 = 4.8252 BTC [-]
B0g4r7: Kinda looks like way, for all 3 vendors.
thestringpuller: I thought of that meme with the dog holding the test tubes
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.62001, Best ask: 13.62002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.62001, 24 hour volume: 36800.77371952, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.79989, 24 hour vwap: 13.61761
B0g4r7: revenue stream defines you!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00059991 = 1.9797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5260 @ 0.00059725 = 3.1415 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00059638 = 4.2343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3640 @ 0.00059161 = 2.1535 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i'm curious actually when will mpex dividend payments outstrip mining revenue for that month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1356 @ 0.00332457 = 4.5081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2144 @ 0.00332298 = 7.1245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00059991 = 0.6125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24429 @ 0.0006 = 14.6574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18677 @ 0.0006 = 11.2062 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1699 @ 0.00060004 = 1.0195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00060004 = 5.7604 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: cash flow is a better term, albeit a great volume of capital flows through btc, most btc transactions are satoshi dice...
thestringpuller: btc needs to be used for large payments and create some kind of cashflow climate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14149 @ 0.00060004 = 8.49 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00060106 = 3.7867 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00060152 = 14.7372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0006124 = 6.2465 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16107 @ 0.00061252 = 9.8659 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACOG] 175 @ 0.05713408 = 9.9985 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: however my concern is that as btc businesses grow, those business owners won't want to invest in other companies, due to the astronomical chance of losing money
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INKG] 44 @ 0.07458535 = 3.2818 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller depends a lot on what busienss and who runs them
mircea_popescu: nobody will ever want to invest in childish glbse-level bullcrap.
PsychoticBoy: mircea could you asked that hooker of yours to quit crapping on forum threads since she/he/you are/is fucking annoying
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 600 @ 0.23166011 = 138.9961 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: but if that shit stirrer got nothing bright to say, then its better to say nothing
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ALCG] 500 @ 0.10144961 = 50.7248 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: right. the principle is good, stick with it : if you have nothing intelligent to say stfu.
B0g4r7: There's a lot of that going around on the internets.
PsychoticBoy: here in the west we puke on east european crap spewers
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well glbse is akin to this asic nonsense, a lot of money just disappearing with nothing to show
thestringpuller: which is the symptom of a dying business, or an abomination that is called a business
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if bfl actually croaks that'll be a valley of tears.
mircea_popescu: leaving alone that the two other asic troops came out with comparable news.
thestringpuller: but if nothing can be produced with the capital less people will be willing to invest
thestringpuller: people should start simple, like selling large amounts of commodities
B0g4r7: I wonder what the BFL books look like. I understand they only caught up on FPGA orders long after they started taking asic money.
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 something like, +1-200k on fpga, +2ish mn from vc +3ish mn from pre-orders -.5 mn for expenses -2ish mn for failed run -.8mn for refunds
B0g4r7: I also wonder how many worthless million-dollar masksets they've bought so far.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: all I'm saying is that only a few businesses have sustainability and a sustainable income stream, you attract capital by creating jobs or creating "useful shit"
B0g4r7: Assuming they've not snorted it all.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, creating jobs as a pretend-value proxy is a government racket.
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ISP5] 120 @ 0.10902456 = 13.0829 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i mispoke, i forget I"m speaking to mr. rothbard and not mr. keynes (i kid), value creates income streams in which other people can access a job is merely trading time and some kind of skill to contribute to the business in exchange for access to the revenue stream
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ASBG] 120 @ 0.11401584 = 13.6819 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: a business that creates sustainable value will have recurring revenue to show for it
thestringpuller: the thing about it is that most code review for large projects is done in house no?
B0g4r7: That's how we did it at the software house.
thestringpuller: i feel like your target market would be financial firms who connect to the banks
B0g4r7: The only external review was one "security audit" of some sensitive code.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i feel as though this would be best suited for smaller projects
B0g4r7: Internally, on the other hand, every single commit got peer-reviewed, and went through rounds of revisions if recommended, before being merged into Trunk.
thestringpuller: so the most credible programmer I know atm writes compilers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059936 = 2.5898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00059905 = 0.257 BTC [-]
jurov: hehe looks like genjix/amir has made some friends around here in slovakia
mircea_popescu: <B0g4r7> The only external review was one "security audit" of some sensitive code. << this is exactly it tho
jurov: i just got an information "amir is going to organize another bitcoin conference"
jurov: "but in novemnber, he wants to have 2000 paople there"
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> so your base expense is like like what 32000 a month? << that's 2k btc. no big deal.
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ACCA] 3 @ 0.18677491 = 0.5603 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15871 @ 0.00059905 = 9.5075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059167 = 2.5566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15860 @ 0.00059161 = 9.3829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5489 @ 0.00059133 = 3.2458 BTC [-]
B0g4r7: My brother makes indie games.
mircea_popescu: meh. that teppy guy made a game, it looks pretty grim.
B0g4r7: Compete with rockstar huh.
B0g4r7: I'll bet a lot of Rockstar's success can be attributed to slick marketing.
thestringpuller: they almost went under when EA went on an acquisition spree
thestringpuller: but they built a lot of stuff in house that likely sells for quite a bit
B0g4r7: Rockstar Studios, makers of GTA, Manhunt, and other fucked-up titles.
mircea_popescu: i think i played some nude/porn mod for it for 5 minutes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059211 = 2.5585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00059221 = 2.8598 BTC [+]
B0g4r7: I played it for a while. It gets old in a hurry for me.
B0g4r7: I much prefer to play Zelda or similar.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059153 = 2.556 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4584 @ 0.00059133 = 2.7107 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: 06:34 < mircea_popescu> there's nothing quite as grand as reading old asic corps threads. <-- to which corp are you referring?
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EHOG] 59 @ 0.22696117 = 13.3907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059168 = 2.5566 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3380 @ 0.00059133 = 1.9987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00059055 = 6.3484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8233 @ 0.00059 = 4.8575 BTC [-]
gribble: use the 'gentime' command instead
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 5 days, 14 hours, 1 minute, and 34 seconds
dub: jurov: you should organise to film someone reasonably eloquent challenging Amir on his bitcoin 'expertise'
jurov: maybe mpoe-pr can come from timisoara, it's just 500km to here... not sure if i'll be able to pay her, tho :)
jurov: perhaps we can collect
dub: I vote we send Mircea
jurov: haha. infact the chocolate fatory is in kittsee right here over the border
jurov: hehe... i actually expected it few weeks earlier, so i got these loans
jurov: the day i repaid last of them, it went amok
kakobrekla: cause we bought with the repaid loan money!
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00055949 / 0.00058083 / 0.00061252 (4203825 shares, 2,441.74 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00051854 / 0.00061252 (102523166 shares, 53,162.72 BTC)
jurov: oh nooo, just some 240btc
mircea_popescu: you boing-boing to this genjix thing jurov is organising ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00059 = 2.065 BTC [-]
jurov: this was my reply translated "i want to make some money, not thrown down new world ordewr or wharever like amir. that will be just side effect"
jurov: oh no... my keyboard skillz
mircea_popescu: we're finally in the < 20% a year inflation, which makes us akin to developing countries.
jurov: haha we have kinda developing country demographic, too
jcpham: YO I HEARD 4CHAN ACCEPTS BITCOIN NOW
jcpham: Pass purchasing is currently disabled, please come back in 2 hours.
mircea_popescu: Due to some confusion in writing correctly, this thread made fun & i lost my anger.
mircea_popescu: I request mods to delete this thread, as it has no use.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 752 @ 0.00332298 = 2.4989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2448 @ 0.00332218 = 8.1327 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00059 = 10.502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059217 = 2.5588 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4511 @ 0.00059221 = 2.6715 BTC [+]
Ukto: what does this stupid threat keep bumpig & resetting to unread even though its locked???
kakobrekla: the guy is obviously retarded attention whore
Ukto: any forum mods on hand?
Ukto: hes really gotten under my skin lately
Ukto: knowing how late he was awake, hes gotta be asleeper by nice
Ukto: do they mods actually check the 'report post' stuff ?
Ukto: or is that a days later thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059219 = 2.5589 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00059221 = 3.5112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.61654734 = 616.5473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.5342946 = 534.2946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00059009 = 1.323 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53425942 = 534.2594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.61651474 = 616.5147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00059221 = 5.3595 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00059221 = 2.6709 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17598 @ 0.00059858 = 10.5338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2142 @ 0.00059925 = 1.2836 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.00059009 = 1.2268 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28995 @ 0.00059 = 17.1071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.61641271 = 616.4127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.53414929 = 534.1493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005901 = 2.5498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24679 @ 0.00059 = 14.5606 BTC [-]
Namjies: I would say trolling account?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00059 = 7.67 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: These bursts of high volume started the day after Erik came back from his meeting in Macau with casino owners. Maybe casinos there are doing some robustness testing? It's pocket change for them.
mircea_popescu: i know i wouldn't make an offer before i tried to break it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059295 = 2.5621 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3279 @ 0.00059308 = 1.9447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059305 = 2.5626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6469 @ 0.00059308 = 3.8366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2545 @ 0.00059495 = 1.5141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059005 = 2.5496 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7784 @ 0.00059 = 4.5926 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: SD Profit after fees: 16230.26831626 BTC (1.306%) end of nov
mircea_popescu: SD Profit before fees: 20620.58601763 BTC (1.478%) 10 dec
Ukto: when do divs get paid?
pigeons: so disappointed, i thought it was a dtng link
Ukto: I am working on uhh.. making it possible to get sdice shares w/o having mpex account before then.
Ukto: hopefully by this weekend
Ukto: mircea_popescu: no offense
Ukto: just the fact that I wont be buying directly on mpex hehe
Ukto: you prefer being a wholesaler
Ukto: fewer individuals, and more bulk users
Ukto: i just ment sorry that I wont be directly giving you the fees
mircea_popescu: course, i don't see how you'd have a PT w/o actually holding the shares
Ukto: mircea_popescu: hopefully "we" will annonce soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059871 = 2.587 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.0005989 = 8.7913 BTC [+]
Ukto: just waiting to work out the final details
jurov: coinbr will probably offer limited free account to finally get rid of this passthrough nonsense
Ukto: jurov: the PT is for a BF asset
mircea_popescu: jurov sounds more like some sort of synthetic offering
Ukto: i planto buy some shares myself
jurov: ok, i don't hold my breath. if you offered S.MPOE options/ futures, now that would be interesting
Ukto: but it would be an an mpex passthru to s.dice yes
Ukto: as a passthrough asset? not really possibly... a fund that manages them.. sure.. but not direct passthroughs
Ukto: BF wasnt really setup with the idea of assets that regularly end
Ukto: wasnt the initial intention
Ukto: not that its not doable mind you...
Ukto: using the current functionality it woudl work just fine I suppose
mircea_popescu: Ukto i think futures may be doable. options tho... not so much
Ukto: just issue shares at X price... let ppl trade them.. and use force buyback and Y price
Ukto: look who you are talking to
Ukto: I have the otc-style btc/(aud/cad/usd) options on weex
Ukto: was debating transfering that code into BF for btc/(asset) options trading
Ukto: crypto did somethign similar.. doesnt seem to be getting used there
Ukto: but neither does their site in general
pigeons: i think the mpbor etf would be good too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059882 = 2.5875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.0005989 = 3.5161 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12658 @ 0.00059925 = 7.5853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00060049 = 0.9608 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: actually a mpbor etf is pretty much the only legitimate etf in btc space i can see
mircea_popescu: because it takes some thinking to get the capital split up right to optimize your reward
mircea_popescu: lol i think smickles is so happy for having escaped glbse he's not gonna for months
Ukto: anyone here know Cartnh? from the forums ?
jcpham: smickles superb premium deluxe coin llc dot com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00060049 = 13.0607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00060136 = 11.3356 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.0006018 = 1.2337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0006018 = 5.0852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7398 @ 0.00060263 = 4.4583 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2151 @ 0.00060263 = 1.2963 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6399 @ 0.00061001 = 3.9035 BTC [+]
Ukto: burnside: you tehre?
Ukto: the bids tabe for an asset on btct.co is listing a price of ? 1.0E-5
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12076 @ 0.00059992 = 7.2446 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i was thinking of using base 7 for all numbers on mpex
kakobrekla: its alright after some time you just go after the pattern
jcpham: i feel sick when i sel my bitcoins
kakobrekla: thats a good plan not errybody can follow
dub: [16:40] <mircea_popescu> i was thinking of using base 7 for all numbers on mpex
jcpham: sooner or later i have to sell something to profit
kakobrekla: just make it anal while you are at it.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.75004, Best ask: 13.75005, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.75004, 24 hour volume: 23515.12067156, 24 hour low: 13.40011, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.67913
jcpham: this always happens when i sell
jcpham: similarly if I were to buy them, the price would go down
Ukto: that asshat did it again
Ukto: relocked his thread to bump it
Ukto: Diablo-D3: you awake yet? :P
kakobrekla: markedathome heh, well.. wristwatches... theres is a reason why i dont wear em.
dub: Ukto: he's generally not on IRC when asleep
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 283 @ 0.00332218 = 0.9402 BTC [-]
Ukto: the guy keeps bumping his thread
Ukto: was suggested hes unlocking, empty editing ro something, and locking it back
Ukto: he's done it at least 6 times that I have seen
Ukto: "Today at 03:25:26 PM with a smiley face
Ukto: he just keeps changing the emote it looks
Ukto: i am tired of it showing up as unread. :P
dub: yeah, Oh look the bitcoin forum is full of shit and syphalitic fuckheads, I am shocked!
Ukto: call it annoyence at him just pumping extra advertisement for btct.co in a shitty way
jcpham: what am i missing on the forum!>!?!?!?
Ukto: i thnk thats the honesty behind it
dub: jcpham: for once there is some drama
Ukto: <-- drama queen today
jcpham: where can i get my popcorn
dub: someone doesnt like someone else on the internet, all is lost
Ukto: dub: HE NEEDS SCAMMER TAG
kakobrekla: yeah errybody should get scammer tag by default when they register
jcpham: yeah the girl that just came in loved that picture btw
dub: need a ff plugin to ignore everyone without decent wot rating
kakobrekla: what forums needs is global shitlist groups
kakobrekla: so you have a bfl group and a mpex group and a hmm...
kakobrekla: and each group has a common ignore list
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone here capable of explaining ripple to me ?
dub: ignore if ignored by n*people I dont ignore
dub: bootstrap it with big list of tards (ie ~half the people on there)
dub: yeah but you have a slider that controls n
dub: adjust if you are looking for info or a laugh at some tards
jurov: someone needs to sell shirt with btc logo on front and "Every Day I Write Here The Name Of Someone Who Scammed Me" on back
Diablo-D3: it'd be full by the end of the week
jcpham: i'm not sure about ripple mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: I just noticed the password is saved in my phone's browser.
Diablo-D3: DMC would need like 3 tshirts just to start with
jcpham: almsot seems like a way to extend credit in a p2p manner
jcpham: like p2p fractional reserve
mircea_popescu: so basically this has all the disadvantages of getting married
Diablo-D3: I dont see why we keep trying to loan money
Diablo-D3: I mean, loaning money to businesses is one thing, loaning it to private citizens is another
Diablo-D3: the reason the world financial system is falling apart is because we keep loaning people money
jcpham: iirc ripple allows o fund from many currencies
Diablo-D3: without all the fake bank fees, most of america would have a shitload of money
jcpham: so your stash would be how to vouch for other people or something?
Diablo-D3: the average american has $50k in debt
jcpham: i don't get it either because loaning people money has already burned me
Diablo-D3: the average american pays more than $50k of interest and fees in their lifetime
jcpham: i leverage my debt is funny USD all the time
jcpham: to increase my position
jcpham: i don't see how it works in ripple though
jcpham: and they gave it to me!
jcpham: do you not have a mortgage
jcpham: my bank owns my half-million dollar home
Namjies: Ah, well if the lend it on a house...
jcpham: however now i have an expensive house to borrow against
Diablo-D3: I thought you meant they loaned you half a mil in real money
Diablo-D3: not free, now they can come and take your house any time they wish
Diablo-D3: seriously, all they have to do is go to a court, claim you failed to pay your mortgage for several months, and then give a false address to ship the court notice to
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you know foreclosure is a net loss for a bank
Diablo-D3: you fail to show up to a court case you never were informed of, the bank gets a default judgement, then begins eviction
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it should be illegal, really
Diablo-D3: if anything, the government should
Diablo-D3: in virtually all cases, the government loaned the money to the bank to loan out in the first place
Namjies: By that logic, why not abolish banks and replace them with government owned banks? And extend that logic to just everything else?
Namjies: Cause all the money used to buy everything is the property of the government to start with so why wouldn't it own everything bought with it?
Diablo-D3: Namjies: well, we already DID do that
Diablo-D3: we replaced the entire industry with a piece of software
mircea_popescu: <Namjies> Cause all the money used to buy everything is the property of the government to start with so why wouldn't it own everything bought with it? << bullshit.
Diablo-D3: Namjies: and no, if I have $10 actual dollars in my pocket, its mine
Diablo-D3: banks, unless they're very small regional banks or they're credit unions, are in debt to the government
jcpham: i agree about it not being real money though
Namjies: Yes, so maybe instead the right thing to do would be not print money and give it to banks all the time.
Diablo-D3: the federal reserve does, which illegally prints money
dub: ITC: man that lives with his mom gives property investing advice
Namjies: Does "real money" actually exist?
Namjies: All money is always something we greatly overvalue compared to their inherent use or even complete uselessness. All for the sake of easier trading.
Namjies: No money has inherently the value it represents. It's all symbolic and trust.
dub: Diablo-D3: I don't know who else here lives with his mom and gives property investign advice
dub: he gave property advice?
Diablo-D3: dub: I dunno, who here is young enough to live with their mother?
dub: are you trying to say that you finally moved out?
dub: last count you lived with your mom
dub: you need to bait less obviously
dub: but im sorry for your loss man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059604 = 2.5755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15006 @ 0.00059589 = 8.9419 BTC [-]
dub: lol I just fucked up
dub: accidentally defaulted a whole router instead of just one of teh redundant routing engines
Ukto: what routing software are you using?
jcpham: relamen do it in assembly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.003395 = 6.4505 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00059589 = 2.3836 BTC [-]
dub: markedathome: I know some people in GOOGs network team, not sure I'd qualify
markedathome: google's crash earlier this week was due to misconfigured routing engines (for the chrome sync I think)
markedathome: i would hate to be on the SRE teams... "oh let's pull this out and see what happens to the live system"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00059618 = 3.0638 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059707 = 2.5799 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16340 @ 0.0005972 = 9.7582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 484 @ 0.0005972 = 0.289 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17798 @ 0.0005996 = 10.6717 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8586 @ 0.00060161 = 5.1654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18714 @ 0.00060161 = 11.2585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2864 @ 0.00060403 = 1.7299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5826 @ 0.00060692 = 3.5359 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Another 1800 profit for S.DICE in the last 20 minutes
Namjies: How do you check actual profits?
Bugpowder: Pull the data into an excel spread sheet and add the columns
Bugpowder: but this is good for the periods in between posts.
OgNasty: Came to answer any questions folks might have. Live with the Og...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060625 = 2.6196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9429 @ 0.00060609 = 5.7148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060632 = 2.6199 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2829 @ 0.00060609 = 1.7146 BTC [-]
pigeons: OgNasty: are you gonna list on bitfunder?
Ukto: hows thew nw club? :)
OgNasty: pigeons: bitfunder looked illegal to me... just like GLBSE...
OgNasty: I have no desire to trust another random stranger with an illegal operation.
OgNasty: Perhaps a pass-thru in the future maybe...
OgNasty: Ukto: The club is going great so far.
OgNasty: Far superior to any competition.
OgNasty: kakobrekla: Link to topic of discussion.
OgNasty: Even gigavps runs in fear. lol
OgNasty: Looks like that's all the questions...
OgNasty: Take care bitcoiners. Stay safe.
dub: the mighty corolla once again has a contiguous exhaust system
dub: no longer giving the impression of a passenger jet driving down teh road
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00332571 = 5.82 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00060609 = 13.8492 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6692 @ 0.00060609 = 4.056 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: "Don't worry, I was trained by special ops." "I don't care if you were trained by ninjas, my mother has eyes in the back of YOUR head"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19608 @ 0.00060583 = 11.8791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7042 @ 0.00060692 = 4.2739 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1667 @ 0.00060264 = 1.0046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1763 @ 0.00060127 = 1.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00060127 = 10.6425 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2437 @ 0.00060127 = 1.4653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00060124 = 12.2653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9013 @ 0.00059816 = 5.3912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2487 @ 0.00059816 = 1.4876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00059589 = 3.9591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17266 @ 0.00059431 = 10.2614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00060154 = 6.3162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00060154 = 11.5496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3723 @ 0.00060154 = 2.2395 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3532 @ 0.00060692 = 2.1436 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00060725 = 5.4653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5198 @ 0.00060814 = 3.1611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060779 = 2.6263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00060814 = 0.2913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059924 = 2.5893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 690 @ 0.00059917 = 0.4134 BTC [-]
Namjies: That kid probably either regrets this or find it really funny by now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12310 @ 0.00059917 = 7.3758 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6426 @ 0.00059431 = 3.819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059454 = 2.569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5608 @ 0.00059431 = 3.3329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13771 @ 0.00059419 = 8.1826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060787 = 2.6266 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00060814 = 4.153 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Whoever is dropping the big coin on S.DICE better not make all their money back by the end of the month or I am gonna be pissed
Chaang-Noi: talked to m00t yesterday about bitcoin :) pretty epic
☟︎ Chaang-Noi: yeah, but he sent me btc for the failedattempt at the 4chan pass
Chaang-Noi: yeah, but he does not do everything...
Chaang-Noi: i see how handing out btc refunds however is something he would want to do
Chaang-Noi: id say he is active, but im pretty sure he does not do close to most of the work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00060779 = 5.1358 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: been there about 10 years but never had direct contact with m00t, no need to i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12194 @ 0.00060814 = 7.4157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9109 @ 0.00060934 = 5.5505 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060919 = 2.6323 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15279 @ 0.00060934 = 9.3101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8235 @ 0.00061001 = 5.0234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060807 = 2.6275 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00060779 = 4.2418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00060779 = 0.5902 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.0006036 = 3.0053 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: satoshi dice is still getting insane action
smickles: copumpkin: well, only if you were the shit before. I'd say that sort of state change is noteworthy
copumpkin: cause it's amazing how different those are
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060985 = 2.6352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00061001 = 0.5972 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: If this keeps up, shareholders are either going to get a 10% dividend this month or jack shit
gribble: Time since last block: 42 minutes and 45 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.65002, Best ask: 13.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 13.65001, 24 hour volume: 22675.12090777, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.68949
Bugpowder: Anybody have a favorite place to scrape BTC and futures prices from for a MM bot?
Bugpowder: thinking of providing some more liquidity for the market in some futures
smickles: Bugpowder: you don't like scraping btc prices from mtgox/bitcoincharts?
Bugpowder: for my google doc of my fund positions
smickles: err, that's the news feed on yahoo :|
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4182 @ 0.00060982 = 2.5503 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I have been using barchart.com for the futures
plate: what futures you tracking?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060389 = 2.6094 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11029 @ 0.0006036 = 6.6571 BTC [-]
copumpkin: I buy futures on forward contracts
Ukto: Buglouse: bitcoincharts is quickly becoming out of date
Ukto: tcatm has been very afkish
Ukto: he hasnt removed at least one dead exchange
Ukto: and has yet to add ours (emailed him a month ago)
plate: but I used to do futures
Bugpowder: plate I'm currently offering Gold, Nasdaq100 and Crude for sale on MPEX, but I haven't implemented a true market maker position yet
Bugpowder: Trying to figure out what will have the most volume. I thought those would, but people seem more into Corn and the Nikkei
Bugpowder: Well MPEX is market making for all of their futures, but I am trying to bring the spread down a bit for buyers of those
plate: if you want free money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139 @ 0.00060982 = 0.0848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9787 @ 0.00061001 = 5.9702 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3316 @ 0.00061091 = 2.0258 BTC [+]
plate: ride out EUR/JPY to 112.. then if it holds there.. ride it to 120
Bugpowder: I'm only trading with bitcoin denominated securites now
Bugpowder: I want to win from a fiat perspective, even when I'm losing
smickles: thestringpuller: i'm not familiar with the crude market
plate: fiat.. isn't it all fiat?
plate: future ES... ride it to 1500
Bugpowder: I have plenty of exposure in SP500
plate: think its like 12.25 pip
Bugpowder: but trading is tough to win over the long term
Bugpowder: and bitcoin market is small enough that maybe I can play around being a MM and make a little on the spread
plate: europe is like an ATM right now
Bugpowder: give him money to gamble in Forex with
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061075 = 2.6391 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19284 @ 0.00061091 = 11.7808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15646 @ 0.00061126 = 9.5638 BTC [+]
smickles: EVERYBODY, PROJECT SPLENDIFEROUS IS LAUNCHING!!!1!! GET IN BY SENDING BTC TO 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6 NAO!1!
smickles: thestringpuller: ^ i'm helping :)
dub: im like, its smickles, has to be legit, send
smickles: thestringpuller: but srsly, do you have the good idea already?
plate: kakobrekla: market wise
plate: I'm long EUR/JPY.. euro is strengthening and yen is weakening
thestringpuller: a simple media company. i am currently pitching s tvshow/game to adult swim
plate: chinese currency is entering the forex markets in Feb '13
thestringpuller: when we finish the first phase of pre production for the pilot i can have sit downs with the script and potential studio financeers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060383 = 2.6091 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.0006036 = 0.9609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3487 @ 0.0006022 = 2.0999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00061126 = 8.9256 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2711 @ 0.00061131 = 1.6573 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000611 = 2.6401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4939 @ 0.00061131 = 3.0193 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.00061185 = 2.839 BTC [+]
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm not sure that I can help out all that much with funding that sort of project
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00060399 = 1.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16175 @ 0.00061185 = 9.8967 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pigeons : they made one of those bike leasing companies here
pigeons: sounds perfect for a btcjam loan
pigeons: ok i'm not telling anybody anymore of these, I'm just gonna start listing them on btct/cryptostocks/bitfunder
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> Whoever is dropping the big coin on S.DICE better not make all their money back by the end of the month or I am gonna be pissed <<< lol. y the haet ?!
pigeons: yeah i think they will do best on btcjam
pigeons: i'll list as psychoticboy/gigavps/meni/mpoe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.00336629 = 4.8811 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3350 @ 0.00336178 = 11.262 BTC [-]
pigeons: i still can't believe you hire someone to do your trolling for you
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> Well MPEX is market making for all of their futures << not at all ?
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i said it then, i thought (iirc smickles asked ? )
Bugpowder: It's interesting that the options MM clearly has very different assumptions about the future price of BTC than the futures MM
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059693 = 2.5793 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1278 @ 0.00059678 = 0.7627 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't even think it's mm-ing per se, i think people just threw some bids up
Bugpowder: Those bids disappear every few minutes and reappear, adjusted
mircea_popescu: cause that'd indeed be mm-ing but so far haven't seen it
pigeons: mpex patented "invisible hand" order matching algorithm
Bugpowder: any advantage to doing SPLIT over MKOPT? Or is Split just good for straddles and strangles?
plate: I thought patenting algos was a no-no because then you devulge the secret sauce
pigeons: you can have the secret, you need a tpm computer to run it
mircea_popescu: All MKOPT orders are assesed a 2% fee (SPLIT orders are free).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006117 = 2.6432 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.00061185 = 0.5084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3048 @ 0.00061252 = 1.867 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: on the sad news front, seems nobody knows how to price the idiffs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060774 = 2.626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006076 = 2.6254 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13008 @ 0.00060754 = 7.9029 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: “Europe and the eurozone have proved that they are capable of eliminating the challenges that confront them,” said France’s socialist President Francois Hollande.
bonafide: that and lazy people who want a handout
bonafide: I cant stand left wing nuts in the US
mircea_popescu: then the fuckwit french finance minister "lambasts" rich people
bonafide: France: lets raise taxes to 75% on the rich!!!... theRich: okay lets move out of Franch
bonafide: the rich will just get sick of taxes
mircea_popescu: it's like a stupid bitch that marries some rich dude, won't cook, he tells her she either gets with the programme or gets lost
bonafide: and leave and give up citizenship
mircea_popescu: well... shoulda fucken listen when we were jus' talkin'.
bonafide: mircea_popescu where you located?
mircea_popescu: which seems will never actually join the eurozone at this rate.
bonafide: well that could be a good thing
bonafide: Germany will get sick of supporting Greece, Spain and soon France
bonafide: that will be the collapse of that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061222 = 2.6454 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061246 = 2.6464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7458 @ 0.00061252 = 4.5682 BTC [+]
bonafide: EUR, USD, and JPY are printing money like its a fad
bonafide: I deal with left wing nuts all day
bonafide: people wanting free hand outs, expecting something for nothing
mircea_popescu: no, it's not "just" money. it's money. you're just an idiot.
bonafide: they want to tax more to spend more
bonafide: uhmmm you need to reduce the debt
bonafide: instead of leveraging to the hill
bonafide: thanks for getting me all worked up haha
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.67790, Best ask: 13.78850, Bid-ask spread: 0.11060, Last trade: 13.66412, 24 hour volume: 23631.23995353, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.69064
mircea_popescu: "Generally, pushing the security down to the hardware level in conjunction with software provides more protection than a software-only solution. "
mircea_popescu: this is so stupid. wikipedia, land of the useful idiots. who came up with this ?
bonafide: some analyst at BAC said gold to be at 5000$/oz in two years
bonafide: with QE infinity in place, probably
bonafide: with hyper inflation around the corner
bonafide: mircea_popescu that's abold statement
bonafide: depends on what these freaks decide with internet regulating
bonafide: an EMP can take out all of btc.. can't take out gold
mircea_popescu: btc can be implemented to work over carrier pigeons tcp/ip stack reimplementation
mircea_popescu: with shaved headed monks doing the hashing by candlelight.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060768 = 2.6258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00060754 = 0.1774 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10773 @ 0.00060648 = 6.5336 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Figures released Thursday from the Greece’s statistics office showed unemployment at a record high of 24.8 percent in the third quarter of 2012
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00060668 = 1.6987 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: 90.00000000 BTC for 90 O.BTCUSD.C140T contracts. 90.00000000 BTC for 78 O.BTCUSD.P140T contracts.
Ukto: now that forum dick is chaning the emotes on posts in his own thread
mircea_popescu: which for calls is always 90, but for puts varies with how itm they are
smickles: ooooh, these look fun. I was dissapointed to see the diff options go just as I had figured out how to profit on them
mod6: I was uber busy today too, just got a chance to finally look at these :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2911 @ 0.00061218 = 1.7821 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but hey, with great risk comes great reward. you could in principle make ~70x your money in a year-ish
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 280 @ 0.0040975 = 1.1473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 20 @ 0.0067 = 0.134 BTC [+]
Namjies: hmm, the 20 is my fault. And that was my sale order -.-
Namjies: I wanted those 280 shares and wondered if I'd hit into my own sell order.
smickles: alright, i've come up with a fair price for idiff.dec
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 1.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 458 years, 51 weeks, 5 days, 15 hours, 30 minutes, and 9 seconds
Namjies: Consider the fee a donation. (A decadent ~1/3 of a cent. Don't spend it all in one go!)
gribble: Current Blocks: 212143 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 1552 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 20 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3146223.08545920 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.64530067389
smickles: really? there's a case to hear?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00061218 = 0.8632 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2690 @ 0.00061252 = 1.6477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120N] 1 @ 0.37686567 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.74690, Best ask: 13.74691, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.74690, 24 hour volume: 22405.29779859, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.69301
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120N] 1 @ 0.23017945 BTC [+]
smickles: I'd like to short it, but i dunno
smickles: i'd be like that one guy and netflix or soemthing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00338548 = 6.771 BTC [+]
smickles: Whitney Tilson < mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: smickles amusingly, netflix not mentioned on his wiki page :DF
smickles: also, any miner large enough should be selling an amount of those xdiffs equal to the number 2([easiest shares per minute]*[minutes untill settlement])
smickles: they should sell at a price which is a little above the current diff
smickles: mircea_popescu: it's simple arbitrage, sell the future, "buy" the shares
smickles: 25*[shares]/[current diff] then
smickles: that's the current fair pps right now, correct?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00060668 = 0.9228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00060648 = 2.8074 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;calc (2.9*(25/[bc,diff]))*8968*2
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060651 = 2.6207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6198 @ 0.00060648 = 3.759 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9881 @ 0.00060111 = 5.9396 BTC [-]
smickles: so i should sell about a third of a contract at say 03400000 satoshi
mircea_popescu: smickles : you should post this novel sorcery as a comment in the futures post
bonafide: provigil should be given to everyone
mircea_popescu: for the record, iso name for btc would prolly be xbt or something
smickles: well, when it happens, i may change
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060126 = 2.598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3441 @ 0.00060111 = 2.0684 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: cme are such idiots. who told them e-micro can be 1/10 standard
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14455 @ 0.00060111 = 8.689 BTC [-]
bonafide: yea.. that's fucking the scariest part
bonafide: how does someone who goes to college
smickles: mircea_popescu: posted. let me know if i've made an ass of myself :D
bonafide: even remotely think socialism is good
bonafide: a friday rally of eur/jpy to 112 would be phenom
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 6 seconds
bonafide: that this guy is bitching about
bonafide: if he's so sure that the site is money laundering scam ran my criminals... why did he attempt to use it in the first place
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00060421 = 3.3534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00060518 = 3.8732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0006123 = 2.2349 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 28175 @ 0.003395 = 95.6541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 111259 @ 0.0034 = 378.2806 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00332218 / 0.00338831 / 0.0034 (176597 shares, 598.37 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00336838 / 0.0034 (2087328 shares, 7,030.92 BTC)
mircea_popescu: remarkable what small % of moving funds are mtgox trades
Namjies: I'm not really against socialism... at least not for the health/education part. Probably the only thing I approve spending for is education/health. I would not mind helping others for that. Money handouts however...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 671 @ 0.0006123 = 0.4109 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16299 @ 0.00061252 = 9.9835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2580 @ 0.00061382 = 1.5837 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Namjies the problem with education paid for by other people is that it creates the disrespectful assholes we see today.
smickles: Namjies: is socialism divisible/severable like that?
bonafide: I agree education needs to spending
bonafide: but the teacher unions are ridic
mircea_popescu: i would rather have millions of smart kids die iliterate than billions of idiot kids think it's ok to give their opinions when adults talk.
Namjies: How does free education creates those disrespectful assholes?
mircea_popescu: because they don't risk anything. goes to school, doesn't learn, no big deal
bonafide: appropriations are never given where they're given
mircea_popescu: if going to school was an exception, and his only chance out of the slum and something he'd work hard for, it'd be different.
bonafide: you create one social net and then before you know it.. it's like the aids virus
Namjies: You mean college/university free education or primary/high school education?
bonafide: everything has a social safety net
mircea_popescu: kid must know that if he's kicked out of school that means prison, digging ditches or sucking cock
mircea_popescu: and in general, kids must know they're worthless at a much earlier age than the current system
mircea_popescu: where they imagine they're the king of the world for the first 2-3 decades and then discover they really have no value.
bonafide: I'm so sick and tired of this self esteem crap
Namjies: Hmm... that sounds somewhat cliche. I don't see many people acting that way. I might be blind tho.
bonafide: giving awards to make kids feel included
mircea_popescu: Namjies well, we're discussing principle. impossible to attack with anecdote.
Namjies: But I do agree education is quite soft on kids.
mircea_popescu: problem with it being soft on kids is tghat there's nothing they can accomplish anymore.
bonafide: me, living in the US... I see people using depression as a scapegoat
bonafide: fucking... other countries its called hard on your luck.. get over it
smickles: hey, did greece recently issue a fuckload of bonds, then buy them all back at 30% par?
mircea_popescu: anyway. that aside health i can see as a function of govt, in many cases. mostly trauma.
bonafide: think Germany gave them the money
Namjies: Regardless, I'd feel better off if even the worst individuals would still get that education. They're already bad enough with it.
mircea_popescu: i was ranting about how the eurozone is not good enough for romania to join earlier.
smickles: in that spirit, who want's to lend me 10000 btc?
mircea_popescu: Namjies no. this devalues education for everyone else.
bonafide: Namjies: the problem is... some people just dont want to learn
Namjies: So what? If they can't afford it, don't educate them?
smickles: I think that means homeschooling
Namjies: I can hardly see how I can expect a 5 year old kid to pay his first year of primary school. The whole costs...
mircea_popescu: not the govt job. if rich people want to pay for their education let them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00061345 = 7.5148 BTC [-]
bonafide: social promotions within schools shouldnt exist either
bonafide: mircea_popescu: exactly... survival of the fittest
bonafide: instead of weeding out the idiots, now we encourage them to strive
Namjies: Right... so instead of helping the kid into society, exclude it because his parent sucks and don't care.
bonafide: and we get a bunch of half ass dedicated people working, wanting handouts
bonafide: <mircea_popescu> society should be exclusive not inclusive.
bonafide: couldn't have said it better myself
Namjies: I don't see why we should exclude good individuals on behalf their parents are retarded/bad.
Namjies: Stupid people don't all breed retards and rich people don't all breed bright individuals.
Namjies: Same goes for just about anything else.
mircea_popescu: good is not unrelated, randomly occuring, fallen from the sky
Namjies: Yes, but the 6 year old has no means to pay the costs of his education, even if he was a potent individual and was willing to.
mircea_popescu: but don't assume he is for me and expect i give you the money.
mircea_popescu: a fine example : i made a contest on my blog, for peopel to write fiction. reward was 5btc minimum + up to 100
bonafide: mircea_popescu: I have an idea
Namjies: Hmm, such a thing would be impossible. We couldn't have a standard procedure to determine the desrving ones if each member of the society wanted that they personally approve of said person.
mircea_popescu: of the thousands of people who saw it and hundred+ that talked to me about it, i got 3 submissions.
bonafide: Namjies can self impose an 80% tax on himself
bonafide: so that he can support the kiddies
mircea_popescu: why ? cause people were busy dickingaround on facebook ? fuck that.
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mircea_popescu: that is the very point of money : they who have it are smarter than you, and you should listen to them.
bonafide: the problem is now... even the people who aren't smart have money
mircea_popescu: pigeons bonafide only because of the current state sponsored moral hazard
mircea_popescu: sure, let's tax 50% of society and give it out to the worst least worthy recipients
mircea_popescu: if taxes were a reasonable 0.08% i guarantee you jessica simpson would be back to waitressing.
Namjies: Idiots get their hands on vast amount of money. Most often from more intelligent parents. Those idiots also tend to damage their heritage badly.
bonafide: they get multi-million dollar contracts
mircea_popescu: Namjies that problem is purely theoretical these days.
bonafide: and are just as broke as they were before when their careers end
mircea_popescu: bonafide yes, because the foodstamp fed multitudes have discretionary spending.
mircea_popescu: and i guess now i'm the go to rightest-wing guy in btc huh.
Namjies: Ah, but those idiots who make stars rich still have money. That means they either work or get handouts. If we abolish handouts, then that would happen regardless.
mircea_popescu: Namjies if the money they spent came from their work it'd at least be defensible.
mircea_popescu: as in, music doesn't suck today, it's just i have divergent tastes to the world.
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Namjies: What about public infrastructure? Acceptable to fall on government's desk?
mircea_popescu: Namjies im pretty sure if given the same revenue (80% gas accise + car tax + etc) the public sector would be doing a much better job with roads
mircea_popescu: but this point is amply debatable because in fact large projects require large agents and at that size the diff between govt and corporation is mostly academic
mircea_popescu: the principles informing decisions are more important than the exact incorporation form.
mircea_popescu: “I'm a young and involved activist about to start my double major in environmental studies and politics, and I'm very, very angry about what is going on in this country. I blame this country's problems on the exploitations of corporations and a blind worship of the "free market" and "self-regulating capitalism" (Tell me, how does that work again? Oh yeah, it doesn’t morons). Following the deregulation of the banki
mircea_popescu: ng sector and the repeal of Glass-Steagall (the financial regulation act that would have prevented the financial crisis), this country has gone down the drain.
mircea_popescu: this stupidcunt thinks she may have political opinions ? aged 20 ?
mircea_popescu: kids that aren't beaten enough develop this very superficial "we know shit" conviction, and then the result is btctalk lending & usagi financial expertise.
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Namjies: Hmm. Again a bit cliche example.
mircea_popescu: we've taken things too far. much too far. sure, confidence is a good thing, kids were opressed 50 years ago etc. but by now it's way overdone.
mircea_popescu: way, way overdone. college mostly consists of elderly people asking kids what they think. who the fuck cares what 20yos think ? they're dumb as rocks by the very definition.
Namjies: I've seen high-school/college level teachers having such teachings.
mircea_popescu: i mean, it works once a semester or something. but it can not be the whole curricula.
Namjies: I'm all for government having certain responsibilities. Others don't or want different responsibilities.
mircea_popescu: and then name one govt person who got into any sort of trouble for fucking up.
Namjies: It depends on the government... not all governments have the same responsibilities.
Namjies: I was about to say, don't it all boil down to what priorities each individual has and what they are consequently willing or not willing to pay/be taxed for?
mircea_popescu: in all times and places government is this "we'll do our best, expect nothing in return" proposition.
mircea_popescu: this works great if we're a village of 100 people and most of them love the one guy in charge
Namjies: Well on that point, everything is easier to manage when it's small. For large country, where those in charge can have a hard time even seeing the consequence of their actions... it messes things up.
Namjies: It's also more complex. It conveniently allows to shift blame on a million other thing.
mircea_popescu: but you know, just because something is impossible to do (large state) doesn't mean you should try anyway
Namjies: It might not be impossible... but so far large governments are very inneficient as far as I care.
mircea_popescu: well, here's it from my pov : we dicked around for 100 years trying to make this welfare state work. it failed, pack it up.
mircea_popescu: i don't mind the experience, really, but it's unconscionable to pretend like it didn't happen.
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Bugpowder: mircea_popescu Will the reserve requirements for X.IDIFF.MAR be reduced to 0.09777BTC/contract and released to the buyer following the close of this December's future?
mircea_popescu: the reserve requirements will be reduced for new contracts, but old contracts will be unchanged
Namjies: And on my point of view, I would like to offer every kid a chance at education regardless of the parent's means as well as health care. That would be purely based from personal priorities.
Bugpowder: how will buyers know if they are getting a contract with a higher limit or not?
Namjies: I however hardly approve cash handouts and I'm saddened by the inneficiency of government at providing.
mircea_popescu: Namjies i would agree, but every deserving kid. it's important.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder they don't. in case of margins overrun the contracts are awarded proportionally.
mircea_popescu: say there's 90 contracts at margin high, and 10 at margin low
Namjies: Yes. I'd approve with the deserving kid part. But there is an issue with that. If we exclude a kid for not making any effort/causing trouble, what do you do?
Bugpowder: so the loss cap for any futures creator is based on the percentage of new vs. legacy contacts
mircea_popescu: i think we're talking at crosspurposes. yiou mean for future asset buyer or creator.seller ?
Namjies: Well parents can't decide for their children how to act and neither can a kid do for his parent. Left out to the means of parents, kids who would be productive with proper education are left out. If we provide but exclude undeserving kids, but the parent are productive, they're left with a kid to provide for, which would also keep them away from work.
mircea_popescu: Well parents can't decide for their children how to << whart ?! why not ?
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Bugpowder: asset creator has a max loss of the difference between the mean collatoral level and the price he sold it for
Namjies: They can't decide how they act.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes, practically. as far as mpex is concerned at most he gets no collateral back, at best he gets all collateral back.
mircea_popescu: Namjies how they actually act or how they should act ?
Namjies: How they act. They can't control his brain as far as I'm aware.
Namjies: If the children is unwilling to behave regardless of what the parents do.
mircea_popescu: an inability to make a kid act exactly the way you want is in general clear proof you're an idiot.
Namjies: Although we could consider that by having a child, you accept this possibility and choose to provide or do something with your child.
Bugpowder: So a price of over 0.097 for the MAR contract is not a guaranteed loss for an asset buyer on the open market, since collateral reqs are at 0.28 right now. Will the buyer be able to know how many contracts are at the low and high level? I imagine that would factor in risk/reward and purchase price calculations
mircea_popescu: Namjies no, we couldn't. having a kid is NOT a contract with the state.
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mircea_popescu: that aside, i agree the system is imperfect for these reasons, but i see no alternatives.
Bugpowder: just trying to figure it out.... some aspects are opaque
Namjies: A contract with the state? What are you talking about?
mircea_popescu: i mean i guess alternatively i could just shave the collateral each quarter, and return it.
mircea_popescu: Namjies as in, having a kid can not be considered a promise to anything nor an agreement to anything.
Bugpowder: for example, I was going to sell for .0888
mircea_popescu: having a kid is a sovereign right above and beyond any convention, much like breathing.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder risk discovery would b easyer, but the risk of sudden collapse would be notable.
Bugpowder: but with this collateral scheme, I'm going to sell for over .097 to protect myself.
Bugpowder: but the buyer may not realize when the contract was struck
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder im really very much interested in discussing this in depth, i think it's very important.
Bugpowder: what about quarter closes, all margin reqs are reset to the new difficulty with the new multiplyer
Bugpowder: anything that drops under that levels gets liquidated
mircea_popescu: suppose diff is above margin then. all positions = wiped.
Bugpowder: yes but that is known and predictable
mircea_popescu: but then we could just have a single 3 month contract that resets
Bugpowder: from the current diff level at the settlement date
Namjies: Yes, but if the government discharge a kid from the public system and returns it to it's parents... Wouldn't we consider that parents chose to be responsible? If they can't beat the life out of it/put it in a grinder, they have to do something with it.
Namjies: If any parent can, then idiots would be permitted to kill their productive child be interpreting the child correcting their erros as disrespect. They could even kill him just because they feel like it.
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Bugpowder: Well there are other variations, like a margin level that is adjusted for all asset creators that reflects the mean of the margin requirements of the population of contracts at time each was struck. This current liquidation value could be displayed on the contract trading page.
Bugpowder: it would then adjust in a smooth manner
Bugpowder: but someone could trigger liquidation with a large order
mircea_popescu: so basically, display the mean collateral per contract ?
Namjies: If kids are property, then every human is property.
Namjies: And as such, if a couple wants slaves, they can manufacture them.
mircea_popescu: if they can't legally have a beer, then don't tell me they're people.
mircea_popescu: and the entire history of positive pop growth over millenia was exactly it : manufacturing slaves.
Bugpowder: Well. I gotta sleep. I have put some trial contracts out for sale. If they don't sell by next Weds, I wonder if potential buyers will understand that the contract is not an auto loss for them at my ask.
Namjies: Ah, so being legally allowed to have beer makes humans humans now? That's probably one of the weakest argument I've ever heard you say.
Namjies: It's not like you would believe the state can choose who can or cannot drink? That doesn't sound like you.
Bugpowder: people will think that any price over .097 is autoloss for MAR
mircea_popescu: Namjies yes, if you don't recognise them some rights then they're slaves.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder an important point here is that i would imagine actual margins being blown to be rare.
Bugpowder: but many people are more optimistic about ASICs than I
Bugpowder: and they are my potential customers
Namjies: Hmm, well I don't approve of persons having sovereignty over life and death of any human being, even kids.
mircea_popescu: Namjies me either, but the fact remains once you strip humans of some rights you can't pretend they're still humans.
mircea_popescu: they're not. so, either kids can do what they please or else they're slaves. no synthetic middle of the road so we can argue both ways
Namjies: Well, yes, I would still do. It depends on what you consider "human" however. I'm using it refering to the specy.
Namjies: Not their legal/rights status.
mircea_popescu: i was using it in the social participation sense. citizen.
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Namjies: Well I suppose they are indeed not really citizens.
midnightmagic: Kids have fundamental rights, and can sue for emancipation.
midnightmagic: They are only not citizens insofar as they can't vote and aren't held responsible for their own actions.
midnightmagic: But they do have human rights which are inalienable regardless of how old they are.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic we're discussing the philosophy of it rather than the practice.
Namjies: You treat them the same way tho, wether they're half or whole. You treat it as food.
mircea_popescu: hence the distinction between practical (how society treats them) and philosophical (what they are)
midnightmagic: Consensus is a pretty powerful thing. Children are incapacitated people, until they either come into their responsibility, or prove they have it early.
mircea_popescu: truth is not something that is arrived at by consensus, nor is value.
mircea_popescu: and yes, consensus is society, which is what makes it dirty.
midnightmagic: If you have 99 people in a room repeating the same thing, the final will, 30% or so of the time, believe it too, even if their eyes tell them differently. Asche's conformity tests.
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mircea_popescu: midnightmagic no. the social representation of reality is consensus
midnightmagic: When I say "reality" I mean, "What a single human believes is reality." Not the objectively measurable thing itself.
mircea_popescu: the romans were in agreement that they kick ass, just as odoacer marched in.
mircea_popescu: consensus is in general the best tool to identify when you're about to get fucked.
Namjies: But if society is not based on consensus, on what do you propose it be based?
mircea_popescu: Namjies i do not propose society not be based on consensus. i just say we need to understand thinking is an anterior, more important thing than society.
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mircea_popescu: and so what society does has no bearing on the thinking side of things.
midnightmagic: That would be a rationalist's point of view. Unfortunately most humans are not rationalists.
mircea_popescu: i mean, "society" was in consensus earth is the center of the universe. lalala, big deal.
Namjies: But similarly, if consensus is required, how could someone have rights over life and death of another individual, even if only a child?
mircea_popescu: Namjies i don't propose that. i am just pointing out the inconsistency involved.
midnightmagic: Reality is not governed immediately by rational thinking, neither society. Thus, consensus by mass hallucination is what society arises from; more's the pity when the masses have already accepted a certain lesser reality as truth prior to it becoming enshrined in law.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic well if female children are screaming bloody murder...
midnightmagic: with giant open-air vents to the outside, and lots of noise at the neighbour's place.
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mircea_popescu: why not just get a spot on an industrial zone like sane people
Namjies: Ah. Here, I am simply considering the benefits of protecting individuals on which harm is done. (and not helping someone is not harming him)
Namjies: That's exactly what I said.
midnightmagic: I'm pretty sure we have achieved a matched set of priors. :)
Namjies: And for those requesting help, consider case by case wether to or not.
mircea_popescu: but in principle, the problem with society is this : no 100% solution will ever exist. so, in general, we need to understand and accept that some kids will get raped, some people will get shot etc. trying to make a system where these are impossible results in an unworkable system
Namjies: It is often beneficial to help kins if they don't live from your help.
mircea_popescu: and i help people all the time. the catch is that i never help people in systematic ways.
mircea_popescu: taxes are bs, nickle to panhandler is bs, tithe in church is bs, these are failure modes.
Namjies: Ah, but perfection is never achievable. Should we not strive for it as much as possible regardless?
mircea_popescu: you gotta double your dime with at least a dime's worth of your intelligence.
Namjies: But yes, people should not be systematically helped, on that I agree.
mircea_popescu: there's very nice farmer markets here. i bought 56 lei worth of smoked cheeses and other nice stuff. there was a beggar there, when he saw my cashroll he got all excited.
mircea_popescu: so i gave the salesgirl 60 and told her to give the guy food worth of the change
midnightmagic: For a long time I just tried to convince them of a better way to think. That doesn't work, basically ever. The last decade or so I've been trying to refine civil human compassion.
mircea_popescu: simple game of who gets this euro ? the "needy" or the working ?
midnightmagic: I am not prepared nor financially capable of providing for basic human needs and wants..
mircea_popescu: a 1 lb chunk of homesmoked, homemade cheese is like 20
mircea_popescu: one of the main reasons im here. better food than france, about on par wine, 1/10 the prices.
midnightmagic: $10 for it. That's an okay price, I would pay for that.
midnightmagic: I've been trying out some nice smoked meats.. shinckenspeck.. what prosciutto wishes it were.
midnightmagic: I smoked my own heritage bacon a while back. Did I tell you about that?
mircea_popescu: then he wonders why police tries to keep an eye on him
midnightmagic: If my Dad hadn't the foresight to insist I keep my BBQ as far away from the house, I would be homeless right now.
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midnightmagic: I ruined the first two sets of pork bellies, and the farmer was so pissed off at me for ruining the mean (even though I'd paid for the damn stuff) she made me butcher the last one myself.
Namjies: Hmm, so we don't really disagree. But at first what you say always seem to point to that your beliefs revolves around an "all for myself" basis where no help/cooperation of any sort is acceptable (and similar with anything else, always seem like an extreme "never".) When in fact you either don't agree with how it's done or how it should be applied or when it's acceptable.
mircea_popescu: if everyone's done dumping the k's of btc on mpex for five minutes
Namjies: I often end up wondering, why are we arguing on the topic?
midnightmagic: And then let Aumann's agreement theorem take over! :-)
Namjies: I always wonder if you willingly make your initial statements seem like an extremist "never" to promote discussion or simply for the sake of keeping it short.
mircea_popescu: and also for the sake of keeping them rare. idiots tend to self-select as they can't cope with it.
Namjies: So... to start another discussion... why was it that you placed such high registration fees on MPEx?
mircea_popescu: because there's no practical way to check people's disposable income.
mircea_popescu: that measure they have irl of qualified investors is pretty smart.
Namjies: And you wanted to keep low cash investors out like the ones on GLBSE.
Namjies: The ones which might have a few shares paid with faucet like websites.
mircea_popescu: i want to keep people unable to meaningfully contribute in the market out of it.
mircea_popescu: meaningfully contribute means of course help with price formation.
mircea_popescu: this has been stated in the inverse, as "keeping drama out"
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Namjies: Ah. But isn't keeping the drama out basically coming out to avoiding certain kind of issued shares like the ones that were allowed on GLBSE? Not the size of investments?
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mircea_popescu: at the macro level (which is what i do for mpex) you are well advised to use macro tools. a barrier to entry for instance.
Namjies: The way I see it, if they're not good investors, there's not really any incentive to protect them from entering the market. Any purchasing power small or large pressures prices up or down.
Namjies: I suppose this is what coinbr is for tho.
mircea_popescu: for instance, so you understand better that i mean : in the discussion for psychoticboy's asset relisting, mpex got 1 vote, out of like 30.
Namjies: Same as small investors go through a brokerage firm to get a few shares.
mircea_popescu: mpex would never list some asset making 3 btc a month, let alone something as dubious as those were. but it doesn't have to not list it :
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Namjies: Well I see the point of not managing low income assets. Not worth the support. However for traders, there's always trading fees. But to avoid providing tech support to them, keep them out with a large fee. Enters coinbr which acts like a brokerage firm. And requires a monthly fee for having an account and higher trading fees.
Namjies: I suppose considering this, it makes a lot of sense.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with having brokers serving any market niche. irl there's ameritrade and optionsexpress and etc doing online accounts
mircea_popescu: in other words, my core mission still is to equip btc with the weaponry it needs to win the war with fiat. this hasn't and won't change.
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Namjies: I often forget you want to manage MPEx as a stock exchange and that the fee I paid is actually to get a "seat" of sort.
mircea_popescu: if i call it a stock exchange i actually mean the words.
Namjies: It's a small fee although the total capitalization on MPEx is also low. If it keeps going to become one of the major stock exchange for Bitcoins, that "seat" would be quite a good value however.
mircea_popescu: otherwise its a 30 units fee on a 20mn total monetary mass.
mircea_popescu: so, as btc goes up (and in no small part because of mpex) the fee scales. is perfect-ish
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Namjies: I still disapprove of MPEx not having it's own domain however. Especially because of the dtng board kept on same domain. Although I don't mind it, I know many people with large capital and qualified to participate will be repulsed by that fact. If you recall stating some were more sensitive on the topic in other cultures, like in America, or something to that effect.
mircea_popescu: anyway. total cap on mpex (stocks only) is just about to breach 1mn btc.
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mircea_popescu: in fact this is the first online thing of that level. never before was a stock exchange ever had this
mircea_popescu: Namjies i actually was planning to both sell dtng and move mpex
Namjies: Hmm, I would find it interesting to see how people would react to that change.
mircea_popescu: the beauty of how it's designed tho, is that i can run it symultaneously of multiple domains
mircea_popescu: and servers. i don't mean mirror it, i mean actually run it.
Namjies: Well multiple domain isn't hard. Multiple servers shouldn't be too much hassle either with current cloud/cluster services and virtualization capabilities.
Namjies: Although it does require work.
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Namjies: Not quite developed yet. Plus there's data safety concerns using a public cloud. Private cloud would be useful if you need to provide cloud like services for elastic subprojects. Otherwise, for your needs alone for one project, a cluster.
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Namjies: I also want to see what bitcointalk's trolls would then find to it. Other than that you're romanian. Complaining based on nationality...
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off to town for a little. catch you later a bit.
Namjies: That the fee is too damn high would probably be the only remaining complaint.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6208 @ 0.00061923 = 3.8442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5871 @ 0.00061952 = 3.6372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7013 @ 0.00061952 = 4.3447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0006198 = 2.1073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10376 @ 0.00062079 = 6.4413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061536 = 2.659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5371 @ 0.00061514 = 3.3039 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17230 @ 0.00061422 = 10.583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 416 @ 0.00061422 = 0.2555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00061321 = 1.1344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3597 @ 0.00060815 = 2.1875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062075 = 2.6823 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2274 @ 0.00062079 = 1.4117 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8392 @ 0.00062132 = 5.2141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 762 @ 0.00062188 = 0.4739 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5188 @ 0.00062188 = 3.2263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062197 = 1.4616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2612 @ 0.00062222 = 1.6252 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1442 @ 0.00332218 = 4.7906 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00062222 = 4.1689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00062197 = 14.1498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00061875 = 1.2375 BTC [-]
Ukto: u were asleep again?
Diablo-D3: I just didnt feel like being awake again
Ukto: i know that feeling
Ukto: wokring from home, and keeping my own schedual.. sometimes you just want another day to pass by before getting back up
Diablo-D3: Ukto: btw, re: that bitfunder thread
Diablo-D3: dmc already took the first one I thought
Ukto: Put it in the thread and I'll mark it down. ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00061875 = 1.7944 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15831 @ 0.00061875 = 9.7954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00061872 = 5.3829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10849 @ 0.00060876 = 6.6044 BTC [-]
Ukto: wow, gald you put alot of details for ppl :P
Ukto: you make a great example. :P
Ukto: I guess I will fill it in for you
Diablo-D3: Ukto: I approach forums the way I approach perl
Ukto: "My understanding is the plan for DMC to continue trading and paying out dividends and plan to try to buy back the shares over time. Right?"
Ukto: Diablo-D3: As little interaction as possible?
Diablo-D3: Ukto: and no, no paying of dividends
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9222 @ 0.00060876 = 5.614 BTC [-]
Ukto: Will the shares be worth anyone else really buying then?
Diablo-D3: depends entirely how much they pay for them
Ukto: I guess thats true...
Diablo-D3: if you take the first half of shares I bought back as an aggregate, people made back more than they originally invested already
Diablo-D3: not all shares were sold for 1BTC, even though that was originally the plan and trolls keep bringing that up
Diablo-D3: well, the market was shitting itself and I was trying to get a much larger stake of it
Ukto: you should pass my troll tag idea to theymos... Let ppl donate btc towards people getting TROLL tagged... if it hits 10btc they get tagged... :P
Ukto: 50 gets you Super Troll
Diablo-D3: fuck, I'd be epic troll by the end of the week
Ukto: see? would make theymos happy
Ukto: told psycho he needs to set his title to 'Staff Troll'
Ukto: could mean either way
Ukto: for the discussion boards I am putting on BF... I am requirng ppl to have a linked weex account to post. :P
Ukto: (most will need that anyways)
Ukto: did you already tell the shareholders there would be no divvies paid out?
Ukto: can already imagine ppl throwing a fit if not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00060876 = 0.5655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7703 @ 0.00060668 = 4.6733 BTC [-]
Ukto: thats how it was for the first half of the buyback right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4863 @ 0.00060913 = 2.9622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14554 @ 0.00061902 = 9.0092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1183 @ 0.00062222 = 0.7361 BTC [+]
Ukto: ahh, guess the buyback started the day before/of the shutdown, or therebouts
Ukto: *Reading thread*.. dont see anything about no divs.. :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13205 @ 0.00062222 = 8.2164 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00062241 = 6.1133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3073 @ 0.00062256 = 1.9131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00060668 = 2.7173 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12796 @ 0.00060668 = 7.7631 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22404 @ 0.00060667 = 13.5918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4196 @ 0.00060667 = 2.5456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00060488 = 11.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18204 @ 0.00060371 = 10.9899 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00060966 = 9.2059 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Ukto: yes, they're already aware of no dividends
Diablo-D3: there was a shareholder vote on it to do it for a limited time, then nefario locked my glbse account and tried to use his attempted removal of me as ceo as a cover for his bullshit
Diablo-D3: Ukto: theres no dividends to pay anyhow
Diablo-D3: dividends were generated from the mining assets we had while I was trying to save up the money to kick off the rest of the plan
Diablo-D3: ever since glbse went down, no one has been able to pay dividends
Ukto: was just my comments on somoene moaning over BF's tos
Ukto: which is the only one that hhas a promise to the users, instead of nothing at all
Ukto: its like star wars.. lets vote for to turn the republic into an empire! yay!
Ukto: it sounds prettier!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00060969 = 2.6217 BTC [+]
Graet: gl with that Diablo-D3 :)
Diablo-D3: all this countertrolling (ie, countering of trolls) has made me hungry
Ukto: amended: "Also, I noticed that you have never posted in the GSDPT thread before, other than to +1 btct. It just made me curious if you happen to own any shares of GSDPT?"
Ukto: i think thats what I just did. countertrolled
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00060966 = 1.3717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10696 @ 0.00060578 = 6.4794 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5918 @ 0.00060578 = 3.585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 696 @ 0.00060371 = 0.4202 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8931 @ 0.0006027 = 5.3827 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1655 @ 0.00060257 = 0.9973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3428 @ 0.00060969 = 2.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061451 = 5.5306 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9772 @ 0.00061639 = 6.0234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3172 @ 0.00060734 = 1.9265 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00060729 = 8.745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.0006066 = 1.3649 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39756 @ 0.00060734 = 24.1454 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9742 @ 0.0006179 = 6.0196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14027 @ 0.00062256 = 8.7326 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7075 @ 0.00062258 = 4.4048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14035 @ 0.00062098 = 8.7155 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3365 @ 0.00062258 = 2.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00061506 = 13.5313 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10363 @ 0.0006066 = 6.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2717 @ 0.00060944 = 1.6558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5283 @ 0.00062258 = 3.2891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16829 @ 0.00062258 = 10.4774 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3071 @ 0.00062272 = 1.9124 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.0032948 = 6.9191 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1034 @ 0.0032948 = 3.4068 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1575 @ 0.00328789 = 5.1784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0006164 = 1.1712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.0006164 = 11.0952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17096 @ 0.00061562 = 10.5246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3725 @ 0.00061398 = 2.2871 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3650 @ 0.00330342 = 12.0575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0033178 = 1.9907 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00061488 = 3.5048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2169 @ 0.00061398 = 1.3317 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.00060912 = 18.3041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00060912 = 0.2436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1987 @ 0.0006066 = 1.2053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7313 @ 0.00060564 = 4.429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13187 @ 0.00060564 = 7.9866 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5213 @ 0.00060502 = 3.154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9609 @ 0.00060502 = 5.8136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2799 @ 0.00060257 = 1.6866 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3692 @ 0.00060213 = 2.2231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00060499 = 8.6211 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6233 @ 0.00060499 = 3.7709 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4667 @ 0.00060286 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00060286 = 0.6529 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00060262 = 1.6271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12408 @ 0.00060213 = 7.4712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4059 @ 0.00060154 = 2.4417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23591 @ 0.00060154 = 14.1909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1909 @ 0.00060111 = 1.1475 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17516 @ 0.00060985 = 10.6821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8034 @ 0.00060985 = 4.8995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00061054 = 1.9598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4190 @ 0.00061054 = 2.5582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2210 @ 0.00061063 = 1.3495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00060922 = 13.6465 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6632 @ 0.0006083 = 4.0342 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20129 @ 0.00061063 = 12.2914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6422 @ 0.00061262 = 3.9342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 291 @ 0.00061602 = 0.1793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12068 @ 0.0006083 = 7.341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4532 @ 0.0006048 = 2.741 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00060639 = 10.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9909 @ 0.00061602 = 6.1041 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0006164 = 2.8046 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9329 @ 0.00062272 = 5.8094 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13095 @ 0.0006233 = 8.1621 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5705 @ 0.0006233 = 3.5559 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00062351 = 14.3407 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18495 @ 0.00062357 = 11.5329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6255 @ 0.00062357 = 3.9004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17745 @ 0.00062422 = 11.0768 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22064 @ 0.00062215 = 13.7271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136 @ 0.00062215 = 0.0846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3164 @ 0.00061602 = 1.9491 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062422 = 2.4032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5705 @ 0.00062422 = 3.5612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00062706 = 1.0942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9878 @ 0.00061602 = 6.085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4525 @ 0.00061368 = 2.7769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10293 @ 0.00061015 = 6.2803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15884 @ 0.00062706 = 9.9602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22075 @ 0.00060319 = 13.3154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00060316 = 6.5744 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9319 @ 0.00060111 = 5.6017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00060093 = 2.6417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 558 @ 0.0033178 = 1.8513 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00061934 = 5.3263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00061967 = 5.2672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062706 = 2.0693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00061154 = 8.4393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00060802 = 9.5459 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00060556 = 12.1718 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13129 @ 0.00060489 = 7.9416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0034 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00060635 = 5.0933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00061634 = 6.1634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00061634 = 3.0817 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00060635 = 1.6978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6621 @ 0.00060489 = 4.005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11311 @ 0.00060459 = 6.8385 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1345 @ 0.00060318 = 0.8113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00060318 = 6.7858 BTC [-]
gigavps: i'm starting to think the scam accusations section of the forums is getting over used
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9622 @ 0.00060318 = 5.8038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00061767 = 9.3577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00062226 = 7.2182 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00062226 = 0.9956 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00061724 = 9.9067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4383 @ 0.00060318 = 2.6437 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4340 @ 0.00060225 = 2.6138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00060225 = 9.8468 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news : SD Profit before fees: 30628.62760334 BTC (2.055%)
jcpham: link me to this new bfl drama
jcpham: don't make me read up in the buffer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00061881 = 3.2178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10210 @ 0.00060225 = 6.149 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4054 @ 0.00060093 = 2.4362 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2636 @ 0.00060054 = 1.583 BTC [-]
jcpham: i tried to read it but I was staring at her avatar the whole time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3351 @ 0.00060054 = 2.0124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10414 @ 0.00060775 = 6.3291 BTC [+]
smickles: Ya know, If I really had confidence in that formula, I would sell a crapload of futures based on the projected costs of a farm and equipment and use the btc to buy a farm and equipment
smickles: to quote the owl, "let's find out"
smickles: using a single BFL product as an example
Diablo-D3: I'd sell futures and then take the money and buy lots of mining hardware
Diablo-D3: and then no matter what happens, I end up with lots of cash
smickles: if you sell at the right price, that is a good move
Diablo-D3: Im trying to figure out how to turn other peoples money into my money without betting
smickles: Diablo-D3: i'm talking about this formula: I believe that any sufficiently large miner can make relatively safe profits by selling these contracts in an amount derived by the following formula:
smickles: ([easiest difficulty shares per minute] * ([current block reward] / [current difficulty])) * [minutes until settlement] * 2
smickles: They should sell at a price per contract greater than the projected expenses for the time period divided by the number of contracts.
smickles: The amount received in excess of projected expenses should be risk free profit. Which, btw, is received in advance of the work being done. Which enables the miner to buy more equipment and repeat the process.
smickles: Diablo-D3: that formula might work for you, if you know shares per minute and projected costs
Diablo-D3: plug the current numbers into that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1286 @ 0.00060775 = 0.7816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00060716 = 0.7893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4703 @ 0.00060054 = 2.8243 BTC [-]
smickles: well, what's a good number for cost per Gh?
Diablo-D3: per month? what, electricity or what?
smickles: electricity and proportional equipment cost
Diablo-D3: okay, so we're working with a 2 year pay off number or what?
smickles: based on a 5970 and the internet i came up with .3 btc per Gh per month
Diablo-D3: on 5xxx or 69xx or 7xxx thats roughly, eh
smickles: a 2yr payoff is ideas, as that would equate to tax depreciation
Diablo-D3: like, my 7970 does 675 mhash overclocked
Diablo-D3: [01:59:09] <gribble> The expected generation output, at 675.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 0.100726636919 BTC per day and 0.00419694320496 BTC per hour.
smickles: anyway, if my estimate is near enough to correct, the formula says that a miner with 30Gh/s and .3btc/Gh/month costs would break even selling 54 contracts at 0.03322320 btc each
Diablo-D3: smickles: lets say $380 for the 7970, btw
smickles: Diablo-D3: so they should probably sell at .034 or .035ish
smickles: Diablo-D3: let me help you get into the proper mindset, it's not 380 USD it's 27.5 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11110 @ 0.00060054 = 6.672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5452 @ 0.00060027 = 3.2727 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: so 4.444~ btc per 30 day month per 1gh, $562.96 per 1gh
Diablo-D3: [02:02:17] <gribble> BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.50006, Best ask: 13.60400, Bid-ask spread: 0.10394, Last trade: 13.50005, 24 hour volume: 51438.51375095, 24 hour low: 13.31012, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.69112
smickles: Diablo-D3: 27.5 btc is your cost per Gh per month?
Diablo-D3: 4.444~ btc generated per 30 day month per 1gh, 41.7 btc per 1gh to buy
smickles: that's about 1.14/month equipment costs
Diablo-D3: and btw, that doesnt include the cost of the rigs
Diablo-D3: so theres going to be a cost per 7 of those
Diablo-D3: so lets say 300 watts per overclocked 7970
Diablo-D3: or 0.0533328 cents per 1gh per hour
smickles: crap mircea_popescu I forgot to specify that I was talkign about the idiff.dec
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00060871 = 8.8263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00061129 = 1.9867 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: 41.7 / 24 = 1.74, then 2.84 per month in power usage
mircea_popescu: seems my 1btc/gh/month was under smickles. not .3 but 3.
smickles: ack, well, the high price certainly fits the volatility
Diablo-D3: and remember, the price is even worse
smickles: also, who's going to buy a 79XX now
Diablo-D3: you're looking at roughly $200 per 7 of those plus another 50 watts
Diablo-D3: so 1.45 btc per gh, 6.06 watt per gh
Diablo-D3: 0.06 btc per gh per month over 2 years
smickles: and, is that 838 shares per minute?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00061129 = 8.4052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5318 @ 0.0006129 = 3.2594 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: smickles: hrm, what kind of shares? diff 1 shares?
Diablo-D3: it takes 4.295 seconds to go through the entire 2**32 space
Diablo-D3: there is, on average, 1 diff 1 share per 2**32
Diablo-D3: so you pay 0.099 btc per month to get 603492 shares.
smickles: so that's 257 shares per minute then?
thestringpuller: sir smickles the bitoin certified accountant, i have idea for you
Diablo-D3: smickles: erm dude, 60 / 4.295 = 14
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2282 @ 0.0006129 = 1.3986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11818 @ 0.00061899 = 7.3152 BTC [+]
jcpham: 3GH/s is ~40-43 shares per minute
Diablo-D3: it has nothing to do with hardware
Diablo-D3: 2**32 / 1000000000 = seconds it takes at 1gh to deplete the range
jcpham: well my equipment has done 40-43 shares/minute
Diablo-D3: jcpham: no, Im saying, it has nothing to do with hardware
smickles: mircea_popescu: so it turns out my assumptions were way off
Diablo-D3: jcpham: so you're right in the right range
jcpham: 41.31 according to my stats
smickles: mircea_popescu: or Diablo-D3 facts are way off
jcpham: i understand what you are saying Diablo-D3
smickles: heh, (my last statement was humor ;)
jcpham: I cannot wait until this asic shit materializes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1382 @ 0.00061899 = 0.8554 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: that many btc per month for 2 years per gh
smickles: hey, how come cgminer tell me that i get 3 shares per minute on 200Mh/s?
jcpham: 200 MH/s might be 3 shares/min
jcpham: depends on where you are submitting shares
jcpham: and whether they are all accepted or not
Diablo-D3: smickles: 1000mh / 200 = 5, 4.295 * 5 = 21.475 seconds
jcpham: coinlab pps is still keeping me paid
smickles: and 60 Gh/s is only 14 shares per minute?
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 0.12 / 1000 * 6.06060606061 / 13.50 * 24 * 30
jcpham: better than diff/block reward
Diablo-D3: that many btc per month for electricity per gh
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 0.0387878787879 + 0.0607931163487
Diablo-D3: total cost of ownership over 24 month period.
smickles: ok, Diablo-D3 tell me straight, how many diff 1 shares per minute does 66 Gh/s expect to produce?
Diablo-D3: smickles: well, if 1gh does 14 per minute, its 14 * 66
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3518 @ 0.00061983 = 2.1806 BTC [+]
jcpham: i agree with what Diablo-D3 said. armchair math
Diablo-D3: [02:28:11] <gribble> The expected generation output, at 1000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3370181.79928, is 0.149224647288 BTC per day and 0.00621769363698 BTC per hour.
smickles: Diablo-D3: and the cost per Gh per month you figured?
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 4.47673941864 - 0.0995809951366
Diablo-D3: thats your profit per month per gh
Diablo-D3: btw, I did that math using 12 cents per kwh
Diablo-D3: you'll have to substitute your own in for serious math
Namjies: Still no one in here willing to lend me 100 BTC I presume?
Diablo-D3: US depending on where you live is usually between 8 and 12 for residential
Diablo-D3: you'll still be making 0.4476 per month and paying out 0.099 per month
Diablo-D3: if diff increases 100x, you're fucked
smickles: Diablo-D3: the idea is to factor out the diff changes
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 4.47673941864 / 0.0995809951366
mircea_popescu: smickles tbh i always thought miner wants to buy diff nto sell it.
Diablo-D3: diff cant increase more than that in the first 24 months
jcpham: i have at least 6 weeks of 0.00012427 US DOLLARS PER SHARE left at coinlab
jcpham: maybe asic will be here by then
Diablo-D3: ;;calc 4.47673941864 / 0.0387878787879
Diablo-D3: diff cant increase that after 24 months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00060837 = 6.2662 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: smickles: so how much would you be selling the futures for?
Diablo-D3: smickles: anyhow, I did the hard part of the math for you I think
Diablo-D3: diff can't go above 115x what it is now with btc at 13.50
Diablo-D3: gigavps: this is a profit calculation
jcpham: i think my asic purchase is only profitable for me up to a 30x diff increase
Diablo-D3: gigavps: with 12 cents a kwh power, and avalon units using 400 watts for 66gh, and btc at $13.50
jcpham: so a diff of 90 mil would end my mining
gigavps: no one is delivering asics
jcpham: predictinator says diff is going down down down
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -9.6845456433 % based on data since last change | -15.4954531067 % based on data for last three days
Diablo-D3: so we'd need roughly 388 million diff for avalon to become unprofitable
smickles: Diablo-D3: so you said that the cost of equipment and elec. per month per gh was ~.09958?
Diablo-D3: [02:25:27] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 0.12 / 1000 * 6.06060606061 / 13.50 * 24 * 30
Diablo-D3: [02:25:27] <gribble> 0.0387878787879
Diablo-D3: [02:26:11] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 0.0387878787879 + 0.0607931163487
Diablo-D3: [02:26:11] <gribble> 0.0995809951366
Diablo-D3: [02:21:36] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 1300 / 66 / 13.50 / 24
Diablo-D3: [02:21:37] <gribble> 0.0607931163487
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2702 @ 0.00339777 = 9.1808 BTC [-]
jcpham: smickles if you need a partner to operate mining equipment for you...
Diablo-D3: dollars per kwh to watt hour times 6.06 watts convert to btc convert to day convert to month
jcpham: smickles let's create a mining asset and take the bitcoins!
Diablo-D3: [02:24:52] <Diablo-D3> ;;calc 400 / 66
Diablo-D3: [02:24:52] <gribble> 6.06060606061
Diablo-D3: smickles: 1300, 66, and 400 are dollars, gh, and watts from the vendor per unit
Diablo-D3: smickles: so you should be able to script that easily
smickles: i need to research futures a bit more :o
Diablo-D3: smickles: wait, what was the last you saw?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00061517 = 4.5215 BTC [+]
smickles: Diablo-D3: it's not about your numbers, it's about my formula, the delta of diff futures etc
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.60781728 = 607.8173 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.52540165 = 525.4017 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: whats the chances of diff increasing 115x from right now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00060837 = 3.9544 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00060491 = 11.8865 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: abracadabra looks to buy more gpus <<< prolly a safer investment
jcpham: gpu mining is profitable if you have free power and enough time
jcpham: that time variable just got bigger though
Diablo-D3: yeah, if you have free power, you can just get unlimited gpus
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 90 @ 0.08471093 = 7.624 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34640, Best ask: 13.34641, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.34640, 24 hour volume: 63684.39592991, 24 hour low: 13.00000, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.59704
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6232 @ 0.00061517 = 3.8337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19054 @ 0.00061572 = 11.7319 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: did i not chat with you about this happening?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.52536606 = 525.3661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.60778466 = 607.7847 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 78 @ 0.1599 = 12.4722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 922 @ 0.17157857 = 158.1954 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.12227209 = 122.2721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.23049813 = 230.4981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00060798 = 2.1121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1546 @ 0.00061572 = 0.9519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.00062459 = 4.9973 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18326 @ 0.00060975 = 11.1743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1239 @ 0.00060491 = 0.7495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00060317 = 1.3523 BTC [-]
smickles: ok, so, when you are mining, are you essentially buying diff, or selling diff by the action of mining?
Diablo-D3: smickles: you're selling a service
smickles: your work pressures the diff to increase, so you are, in effect selling diff
mircea_popescu: when you are mining you are taking virtual diff and turning it into real diff.
Diablo-D3: what your service is worth is a function of diff and btc prices
mircea_popescu: thus it helps to have a supply of already bought virtual diff
smickles: if mining is equiv. to selling diff, then buying diff futures nixes it, and any leftover value (the extrinsic value) is profit
smickles: X.IDIFF.DEC settles in BTC on the third Wednesday of December each year before midnight GMT as equal to the network difficulty then current, truncated to an integer and expressed in satoshi.
smickles: it's worth an amount of satoshis equal to the diff rate on dec 19th at midnight
smickles: so when you mine btc, you are essentially doing the same thing as selling that contract
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5749 @ 0.00062459 = 3.5908 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1071 @ 0.00062706 = 0.6716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062714 = 4.1579 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I create the futures, sell them, and then mine like no tommorow?
Diablo-D3: well who creates the futures then?
Diablo-D3: because whoever is mining wants to bet the diff will only go up
mircea_popescu: no, whoever is mining wants to insure against diff going up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00061947 = 4.3673 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: if they're playing the future game?
Diablo-D3: because the more mining hardware they own, the more the diff goes up
smickles: Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu and I are talking about two different things, him: insureance, me arbitrage
smickles: it's possible to calc a point to buy at where anything on one side of the line is risk free profit
smickles: you'd have to keep the mining farm operating
mircea_popescu: look, it's really simple. you have 1k btc, want to mine. case A : you buy mining gear worth 1k btc. mine. as diff goes up you make less btc from mining
Diablo-D3: smickles: but why wouldnt I just sell mining contracts instead?
mircea_popescu: case B : you buy 900 BTC worth of mining gear and 100 btc worth of diff futures
mircea_popescu: as diff goes up you make less from mining but some money from the future
Diablo-D3: okay, so you DO want diff to go up if you want to win at futures
smickles: Diablo-D3: because people shouldn't actually buy those mining contracts, the fact that there is a market for that shit baffles me
Diablo-D3: smickles: well, I was using it as virtual hash power for dmc before we got dmc
Diablo-D3: nefario was kind enough to steal a lot of dmc's money doing that
smickles: Diablo-D3: what's the max diff increase per occurrance?
Diablo-D3: smickles: its fast enough we can cross that 115x in 24 months if we had the hardware to do it
lyspooner: smickles, the future is very good for miners to buy
Diablo-D3: smickles: but we'd have to go from 17TH to like 17EH or something
mircea_popescu: the problem is that as hash output increases the 2k blocks go by faster, so the 400% is not related to time
mircea_popescu: you could get 1mn% in a few hours with enough power added
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: trying to play that game doesnt work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00062165 = 10.4437 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: people were like "what if I power cycled a 51% mining cluster"
lyspooner: "not related to time"... it's defined by time, if you just rid your antiquated idea of what time is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18020 @ 0.00062714 = 11.3011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7108 @ 0.00062729 = 4.4588 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17993 @ 0.00062729 = 11.2868 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5907 @ 0.0006273 = 3.7055 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lyspooner: well, Ive used difficulty as a unit of time before
Diablo-D3: makes a lot of calculations a lot easier
lyspooner: the blockchain has been described as a distributed timestamp
Diablo-D3: its more of an ordering protocol than anything
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16672 @ 0.0006241 = 10.405 BTC [-]
lyspooner: yes, that incremental blockheader is a very beautiful thing. although the block reward halving party wasn't as exciting as a new years countdown
lyspooner: memorylessness of waiting for a block
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1513 @ 0.0006241 = 0.9443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9087 @ 0.00062386 = 5.669 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34963, Best ask: 13.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01037, Last trade: 13.34963, 24 hour volume: 67793.60594621, 24 hour low: 13.00000, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.57774
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.2315999 = 231.5999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.17242083 = 172.4208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.12284241 = 122.8424 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14093 @ 0.0006273 = 8.8405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2899 @ 0.00062746 = 1.819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00062386 = 4.679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00062727 = 11.2909 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Each successful applicant will receive $37. This will cover the cost of six months of hosting at prgmr.com and a productivity-enhancing hot beverage.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062398 = 2.6962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062394 = 2.696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4763 @ 0.00062386 = 2.9714 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10495 @ 0.00062146 = 6.5222 BTC [-]
jcpham: $37 is all you need to suceed!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006215 = 2.6855 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9505 @ 0.00062146 = 5.907 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3874 @ 0.00061993 = 2.4016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7497 @ 0.00061993 = 4.6476 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't need 37 to succeed and i specifically do not need some nobody giving it to me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00337576 = 6.5827 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062701 = 2.7093 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1133 @ 0.00062727 = 0.7107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006271 = 2.7097 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1967 @ 0.00062727 = 1.2338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11901 @ 0.00062746 = 7.4674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00062779 = 1.0986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13949 @ 0.00062784 = 8.7577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00062729 = 5.1751 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.54501, Best ask: 13.54502, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.54501, 24 hour volume: 69716.29959509, 24 hour low: 13.00000, 24 hour high: 13.90119, 24 hour vwap: 13.56544
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062769 = 2.7122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.00062784 = 2.3098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2603 @ 0.00062729 = 1.6328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061999 = 2.679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00061993 = 4.4195 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00061947 = 1.5177 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2115 @ 0.00061872 = 1.3086 BTC [-]
pigeons: mircea_popescu: who runs that?
mircea_popescu: -pr is making it her life mission to skewer btctalk noobies it seems
mircea_popescu: i guess she's run out of old trolls to bite the heads off
pigeons: heh, "free vanity addresses"
jurov: just read scrollback.. so we are bribing asset/passthrough issuers now? and mpex.co :)
mircea_popescu: Hello everyone, my name is Yifu. Despise my fairly-lengthy involvement with Bitcoin, most of you do not know me.
pigeons: i also love how people think a month is a long time
mircea_popescu: gotta give it to them : they won' be around in 2-3 of those so. their mark must be left in a week preferably.
pigeons: i mean i've been reading this forum for a month, therefore i've got fairly lenghty involvement in the project
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11408 @ 0.00062518 = 7.1321 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.00062768 = 0.9993 BTC [+]
pigeons: doesnt look like bfl or cable[pair will
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00339777 = 3.3978 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Let's assume Tom sold 1000 units, that's give or take 50TH/s,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00339777 = 0.8291 BTC [+]
jurov: maybe that was already discussed, but what if i do 1.mkfut 2. sell all the futures 3. difficulty skyrockets
jurov: they'll get forcibly liquidated even if nwner is different now?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061877 = 2.6737 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11279 @ 0.00061872 = 6.9785 BTC [-]
jurov: ok, but what if i did not have enough collateral?
jurov: new owner will suddenly see the futures liquidated?
mircea_popescu: Also unlike other futures contracts X.IDIFF.* are not subject to an insurance fee. Consequently, in the event of a net seller's deposited collateral being exceded by current difficulty a proportional number of open contracts will be forcibly liquidated.
mircea_popescu: jurov it's a little kludgy, but i see no other way to do it.
mircea_popescu: hopefully mining market matures soon and we can move to a saner method
jurov: in the meantime, asic suppliers have got ideal instrument for insider trading
jurov: as using them to mine bears the risk someone spotting them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00062273 = 0.1868 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so they buy diff before they deliver cause thye know they will ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4021 @ 0.00062273 = 2.504 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.00062262 = 5.5905 BTC [-]
Namjies: I'd abuse the heck out of those futures if I knew I was about to dump massive hashing into the network.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17271 @ 0.00062262 = 10.7533 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00061872 = 1.4719 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062431 = 4.8384 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.00062768 = 1.7129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2272 @ 0.00062784 = 1.4265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9530 @ 0.00062848 = 5.9894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 719 @ 0.00062914 = 0.4524 BTC [+]
Namjies: Anyone can fill that last stretch?
dub: guruvan seems to have lost it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006189 = 2.6743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6979 @ 0.00061872 = 4.318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062881 = 2.7171 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11881 @ 0.00062914 = 7.4748 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9148 @ 0.00062962 = 5.7598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00062973 = 9.0366 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: no one use MPW this time. include us, BFL ,bASIC, asicminer, etc.
mircea_popescu: just like a Chinese network catchword: we are all fighting without pants. (我们都已经脱了裤子干了)
mircea_popescu: i guess today i learned how you spell insanity in chinese.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062163 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17629 @ 0.00062161 = 10.9584 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 58823 @ 0.0034 = 199.9982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062944 = 2.7198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062969 = 2.7209 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00062973 = 3.558 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00063006 = 9.3249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12573 @ 0.00063011 = 7.9224 BTC [+]
smickles: there is now a spread on idiff.mar
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 265 @ 0.0034 = 0.901 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5214 @ 0.00062313 = 3.249 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0034 = 340 BTC [+]
dub: guns dont kill people, people who say 'guns dont kill people' kill people with guns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0034 = 1020 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0034 = 1020 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.00339807 / 0.0034 (930860 shares, 3,163.13 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00337654 / 0.0034 (2870204 shares, 9,691.38 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300000 @ 0.0034 = 1020 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: did the bot just get stuck or what?
Diablo-D3: three identical orders totaling 3k?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 18500 @ 0.0034 = 62.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 320000 @ 0.0034 = 1088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INKG] 150 @ 0.07458535 = 11.1878 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2524 @ 0.00062162 = 1.569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 725 @ 0.22344233 = 161.9957 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ISP5] 550 @ 0.10152287 = 55.8376 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1797 @ 0.00062162 = 1.1171 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23171 @ 0.00062161 = 14.4033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00062039 = 11.4152 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4698 @ 0.00061872 = 2.9067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00061846 = 9.5243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00061837 = 8.1006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00061804 = 2.2867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00061771 = 5.2814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00061402 = 1.5351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00061071 = 11.7867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061064 = 5.4958 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.0006095 = 6.3388 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00060938 = 10.1157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0006087 = 16.6784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19148 @ 0.00060854 = 11.6523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9669 @ 0.00060793 = 5.8781 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17858 @ 0.00060317 = 10.7714 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19309 @ 0.00060027 = 11.5906 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: I'm going to solicit rich people to give me money then I'll give it to you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1686 @ 0.00062313 = 1.0506 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: if someone gave me 10,000 dollars I would just put that into btc then give you the btc
pigeons: give it to me, i'll do interesting things with it
thestringpuller: can you give me a solid investment platform pigeons for my investors?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller actually s.dice looks set to make 5ish % this month
thestringpuller: I think the future market is a good start, once you're able to buy manufacturing level volumes of commodities, people may use BTC as a primary trade vehile.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i been trying to get futures with phys delivery for a year now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006298 = 2.7214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 939 @ 0.00063011 = 0.5917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18090 @ 0.00063048 = 11.4054 BTC [+]
evoorhees: well, slightly less than that for Dec so far
evoorhees: we were introducing people there to bitcoin
evoorhees: it'll be a while before those connections make their way to bitcoinland
thestringpuller: evoorhees: I thought you'd be too busy having fun in New York to drop in on us.
evoorhees: no store in macau yet to buy btc :)
evoorhees: actually I'm stuck in bed right now cause a fucking spider bit me and it got infected
evoorhees: so I'm on antibiotics and have to keep my leg elevated
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063037 = 2.7238 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6156 @ 0.00063048 = 3.8812 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11144 @ 0.0006306 = 7.0274 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: we should get phys delivery of cocoa by doing a deal with the columbian cartels
thestringpuller: yes because signatures from romanian mobsters will help so much
evoorhees: Diablo... that's a stupid petition lol
evoorhees: bleh... just another big government program
pigeons: well the mugs were to get btc people interesting in giving a little coin to the effort to get a kiln
Ukto: pigeons: it happens
Ukto: I am not afraid of the competition that I will go mudslinging everywhere
Ukto: I have made arrangements for some assets now
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: the idea you had about certified code review, why not extend that to a code-factory
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <smickles> there is now a spread on idiff.mar
thestringpuller: well the thing is mircea_popescu is that with the growing complexity of building code, it may be better for there to be an architect who can design it and to have code monkey's build it
Ukto: that sound like a pita x,x
Ukto: evoorhees: sounds ike a great dividend month comming up :P
Ukto: I will probably be buying some shares myself via Terra once he gets things listed
Ukto: although I was planning to avoid buying shares on my own exchange, I really don't see much of a problem with it
thestringpuller: I feel like giving dividends to shareholders is a waste of capital
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00063005 = 8.1276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062528 = 3.7517 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: haha! i got assbot and all the split people can't see it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1245517 @ 0.0034 = 4234.7578 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.0033994 / 0.0034 (2813127 shares, 9,562.97 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00338584 / 0.0034 (4754221 shares, 16,097.04 BTC)
Guest6144: thestringpuller: another as of when?
Guest6144: BitFunder was in public beta testing in June
Ukto: also, hashpower, and weexchange
Ukto: oh, and I own some of btct.co
kakobrekla: hp pft, ill open an international bitcoin machines
Ukto: Internation house of Bitocoins? IHOB? :P
pigeons: a seller's profile on a site i'm looking at : "im the most honest person i know"
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 103 @ 0.12366005 = 12.737 BTC [-]
pigeons: special magnetic breacelets that take 5 strokes from your gold game if you believe enough, 5 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EWTI] 133 @ 0.0614575 = 8.1738 BTC [-]
Ukto: thestringpuller: DHL :P
Ukto: they are reliable, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00063014 = 7.7507 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.0006306 = 0.1261 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.0033994 / 0.0034 (2813127 shares, 9,562.97 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00338584 / 0.0034 (4754221 shares, 16,097.04 BTC)
Bugpowder: somebody needs to buy my futures so I can buy S.DICE before it hits 6000000
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12353 @ 0.0034 = 42.0002 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I'm selling at current settlement value for fucks sake
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8106 @ 0.0006306 = 5.1116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 244 @ 0.00063066 = 0.1539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0034 = 6.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.00063066 = 3.2075 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10626 @ 0.00063067 = 6.7015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00328789 / 0.00339941 / 0.0034 (2827480 shares, 9,611.77 BTC), 30day: 0.00308319 / 0.00338588 / 0.0034 (4768574 shares, 16,145.84 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062555 = 2.703 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6775 @ 0.00062528 = 4.2363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00062478 = 9.4342 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26536 @ 0.00062348 = 16.5447 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063065 = 2.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8374 @ 0.00063067 = 5.2812 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063072 = 4.2258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.0006308 = 1.8609 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1205 @ 0.00063101 = 0.7604 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: alrighty, too much excitement for one day. catch you all later!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062381 = 2.6955 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14228 @ 0.00062348 = 8.8709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00062302 = 14.018 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41025 @ 0.0006189 = 25.3904 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17194 @ 0.00060654 = 10.4288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3718 @ 0.0006058 = 2.2524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2439 @ 0.00060027 = 1.4641 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00060016 = 18.0048 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300000 @ 0.0006 = 180 BTC [-]
Namjies: Hey, SatoshiDice got slightly purchased today.
Bugpowder: not a bad days profit in sales fees
Bugpowder: All the other stocks have gone up massively
Bugpowder: only S.DICE priced the IPO correctly
Namjies: So other stocks were underpriced?
Bugpowder: let's see it for a few months in a row
mircea_popescu: yes this month. the thing is, i think after the variousdebacles startying with pirate people were loath to dump the 100k it should have commanded.
mircea_popescu: but at any rate, take the yearly ffigure : 32k, since april.
mircea_popescu: there's never been an asset returning 10% a year IN BTC
Bugpowder: I have sellers remorse on S.MPOE and S.BVPS
Namjies: How much did you sell S.BVPS?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120000 @ 0.0006 = 72 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Panic selling kept me solvent in the GLBSE era.
Namjies: I sent him a PM not to forget to pay dividends on the 9th and he paid out on the 9th.
Namjies: Not sure if because I took the time to remind him or not.
Namjies: Hmm, on GLBSE, panic selling was what I was NOT doing.
mircea_popescu: hey pigeons, there's a half frozen hungry desperate dieing pigeon in my yard.
pigeons: would you want bread? how about a juicy worm
kakobrekla: afaik bread is no good in winter for birds
EskimoBob: do not give them dark bread, it has too much salt and this will kill the poor bastards
EskimoBob: strange, we have pigeons too but they do not freeze even when it's -40C
EskimoBob: your pigeons over there need winter coats :)
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob i was going to ask for a few bitcoins off pigeons to pay for it.
EskimoBob: get some thread and start knitting
EskimoBob: fluffy pink thread is probably nice for southern pigeons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062839 = 2.7153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13860 @ 0.00062805 = 8.7048 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00338595 = 6.4333 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6923 @ 0.0034 = 23.5382 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Cant the price go super high, all the calls get exercised, then the price crash. Like in the Pirate crash month.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3019 @ 0.00062686 = 1.8925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7831 @ 0.00063514 = 4.9738 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063509 = 2.7442 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12069 @ 0.00063514 = 7.6655 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00063522 = 9.1472 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5737 @ 0.00063547 = 3.6457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4651 @ 0.00063608 = 2.9584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13357 @ 0.00063539 = 8.4869 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11349 @ 0.00063608 = 7.2189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 951 @ 0.00063787 = 0.6066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0033353 = 6.6706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0033341 = 5.668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 800 @ 0.16532973 = 132.2638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 900 @ 0.21548437 = 193.9359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19306 @ 0.00063539 = 12.2668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6911 @ 0.00063787 = 4.4083 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3439 @ 0.00063789 = 2.1937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063551 = 2.746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20387 @ 0.00063539 = 12.9537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1181 @ 0.00063096 = 0.7452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063115 = 2.7272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7579 @ 0.00063096 = 4.782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12694 @ 0.00063096 = 8.0094 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: Im tired of seeing the mpoe and dice exchange.
Diablo-D3: dude, I bark at all trees concurrently
EskimoBob: pigeons: send me your username at litecoinglobal and I can do the transfer
Diablo-D3: twitter is not a generic messaging protocol
Ukto: good luck with the sales! :)
Ukto: hope you guys get the equipment you need
Ukto: think it should work out
EskimoBob: I need that :) Sorry, for not going with your exchange. BTW; we can do a PT, if you like that idea
Ukto: it really isnt a competition
Ukto: and you are more than welcome to
Diablo-D3: yeah, I think we need more than one exchange
EskimoBob: Ukto: if we get this rolling, it will be awesome. There is no more "if" there is "when"
Ukto: As I was talking to deadterra bout his s.dice PT
Ukto: we both agreed that we should have at least 4~5 exchanges
Ukto: for when the next topples
Ukto: and exchanges should work together
Ukto: so issuers can be on all of them
EskimoBob: gone form one, shows up on next one
Ukto: i kinda want to use a version it as a backend for my system
Ukto: I am setting up my api
Ukto: where terra can easily and automatically transfer share for users between exchanges
EskimoBob: exchanges need to afree on data exchange protocol and become each others backup
Ukto: at least in / out of bf
Ukto: if the other exchanges go down, he can go by the last list he had.. which might be outdated somewhat
Ukto: except that someone else might have a newer version
Ukto: since its all public
Ukto: was debating doing a signed version of the asset list
EskimoBob: pushing trades to other exchanges can't be that hard or a resource hog
Ukto: its not a resource issue
Ukto: its a responsibility issue
Ukto: the excahnges dont want to be responsible for shares between the exchanges
Ukto: so that puts all the work onto the issuer
Ukto: kinda like how carnth did his gold deal
Ukto: between ltc-globla and btct
Ukto: he lets ppl move teh stuff between em
EskimoBob: lets say we have 4 exchanges and they keep eachothers trade history and balances updates (encrypted) for each other
EskimoBob: if one drops down, anyone can pick up and relist
Ukto: mircea_popescu: yeah, i already spent the time to make twitter feed, even same format as glbse to make it weasy for kakobrekla, now he wont use it cause twatter will eventaulyl disco it
Ukto: EskimoBob: as long as you have up to the second latest copy of the data
Ukto: crypto isnt doing any of it to my knowledge.. listing data
Ukto: privately to issuers or public
EskimoBob: yes, but we are not talikng about 1000 trades a second here
kakobrekla: accually it was mps idea to phase twitter out
Ukto: btct sends the issuer a list every X hours
Ukto: bitfunders list is live
kakobrekla: its eating trades even when you appy the microtime patch
Ukto: so as long as someone has a copy its within some reason
Ukto: i want to post trade data
Ukto: like the twatter deal
Ukto: so if somoene has a holdings from 10 min prior to a shutdown or some shit
Ukto: its signed and proven
Ukto: i SHOULD have X shares
EskimoBob: you send out balances and trade data
Ukto: thats alot of data heh
Ukto: the problem is you woudl have to show trade data between public addresses
EskimoBob: and now your exchange gets blown up
Ukto: then ppl can see trading history of users
Ukto: tha gets to be less anon
EskimoBob: the trades can me restored to the latest ping from your exchange
EskimoBob: messages can or actually have to be encrypted
Ukto: doesnt help the public
Ukto: if the priv key has been taken hostage
EskimoBob: so you can see your own trades and prove those are yours
Ukto: theres a bit to consider.
mircea_popescu: in any event more use of pgp can not hurt the new exchanges.
Ukto: I want to finish the core functionality extensions
Ukto: mircea_popescu: agreed
EskimoBob: this is just a rough idea. You guys are smart enough and can make it into something that works
mircea_popescu: it's one point that's been gained through experience so far, gpg is good.
Ukto: I just updated the trading graph to have the volume panel.
Ukto: gonna add the depth chart a bit later today/tonight
Ukto: still debating if I will bother with candle/ohlc.. since the open/close would be midnight.. it would just be showing day to day high/low and midnight price...
Ukto: althgouh I will be enabling trend line drawing :P
Ukto: so ppl can draw a lot of lines aiming downwards over timer
Ukto: at least the mining ones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0006273 = 2.0074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 120 @ 0.1534485 = 18.4138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.000625 = 4.875 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: Ukto: add the price:return line. This will look soothingly straight, when price falls, and divs fall
Ukto: return? talking about the graph?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: and this is why all the fkn trading bots are no good
mircea_popescu: actually, this is why mpex doesn't allow instacancellation of orders :)
Ukto: EskimoBob: wow, I feel completely lost as to what you are talking about now. :P
Ukto: stock graphs.. Mh/s ?
EskimoBob: you see, miningbonds (the perpetual ones) usually lose value over time and so do the returns they pay
EskimoBob: mining contract charts will look ugly and depressing over time if diff keeps crawling up the hill
EskimoBob: so, if you add a line for contact price ratio to what Mh/s produced, you probably get a nice flat line
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4506 @ 0.0006273 = 2.8266 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7944 @ 0.00062845 = 4.9924 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: adding a line for what "Mh/s" produces at any point in time, is not that bad. You get that from difficulty
EskimoBob: and this is actually "predicting" the mining contract share price
Ukto: when you say adding a line, a graph ?
EskimoBob: for mining contracts, that pay N Mh/s as div
Ukto: woudl require a few more fields
Ukto: not all pay 100% pps
Ukto: i would then have to connect to a bitcoind or json from somewhere to get diff
Ukto: for each timeperiod
Ukto: not that it isnt doable
Ukto: just a bit of work to put it all together
EskimoBob: diff changes are not that frequent
Ukto: mircea_popescu: you sure do have a lot of time on your hands :P
Ukto: EskimoBob: but when the graph is generated, live, it has to do a diff lookup for each payouts date/time
Ukto: the graph will every time you add to it :P
EskimoBob: yes, but your diff history...actually the result from the calculation of what 1 Mh/s can produce is cashed and can be used for every miningbond
EskimoBob: if it's a 1000 Mh/s then x 1000 and so on
EskimoBob: compared to trade data, this is like nothing
Ukto: as I said, its easily doable in a multitude of ways, I just want to think through the best way to do it. right now, I am still trying to focus on the core systems
Ukto: while playing with the graphs, I am working on the api system, and comprehensive documention for it
EskimoBob: sure, this is just "bells an whistles"
Ukto: I stuck it in my list already. :)
EskimoBob: let me dig around in old GLBSE thread. I had many ideas over there. :)
Ukto: en facte, one thing on my list
Ukto: is discussion boards
Ukto: a set of sub boards per asset
Ukto: as well as some for the site itself
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21201 @ 0.000625 = 13.2506 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: Ukto: here is one that just popped to my head - large block trades that can be executed outside/inside best bid/ask
Ukto: well.. if they are not dark, then bots will change the price :P
EskimoBob: large block trades that can be executed ___outside/inside___ best bid/ask
EskimoBob: never really listed in order book but show up in trades
Ukto: so how would it work. you pull up the asset page, see the order book and the best bid/ask
Ukto: want to do.. 1,000 shares
Ukto: and the best ask is say 1btc
Ukto: what happens next. :)
EskimoBob: Lets say good people at EMIF.LTC-TRADING or LITECOINRS-PT come to me an say - lets do 20K shares trade at price X
EskimoBob: Ukto: large blocks are off the orderbook usually and agreed on the side
Ukto: so it would be a "direct trade"
Ukto: not neccesarily in large blocks
EskimoBob: yes and now... depends what you mean by that
EskimoBob: you need to set min limit for those.
Ukto: I am already planning to be able to send X shares to Y person for Z price
Ukto: with my direct trades, it would be doable at any amount, it just wont show on teh trade history
Ukto: showing it on trade history would leave a giant opening for abuse
Ukto: like to forcefully raise or lower the traded price i think
Ukto: i am kind of confused by ltc-global's "internal asset transfer"
Ukto: it has a value/share field
Ukto: not sure if you can trade for a price directly..
Ukto: or what that fields for
FabianB: mircea_popescu: what happend to mpex.us?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.000625 = 4.625 BTC [-]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: yup, works again :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5456 @ 0.00062845 = 3.4288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6292 @ 0.00063176 = 3.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1952 @ 0.00063789 = 1.2452 BTC [+]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: i know, was reading backlog, noticed that post and was wondering if .us still redirects or points to mpex directly like the other domains
FabianB: so i tried and noticed it not working
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063788 = 2.7563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29 @ 0.00063789 = 0.0185 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00062506 = 1.4808 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1952 @ 0.00062506 = 1.2201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29198 @ 0.000625 = 18.2488 BTC [-]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 2 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <smickles> I consider myself amature, but i've been told what I have done is impressive by amatures
mircea_popescu: wait. smickles considers himself a mature ?! as in, old pornstar ?!
thestringpuller: what if the personor entity acting as the clearing house had, access to the physical asset via normal channels, fiat on hand to pay for said asset, and btc's on hand. in theory couldn't he sign a pgp contract granting ownership to future holders upon settlement?
thestringpuller: so like mbor (i forget initial for bonds) you could have multiple clearing house entities to deliver physical assets traded on mpex
mircea_popescu: most people who'd be competent enough to do it either don't want it because it'd likely be low volume to start or legal concerns
thestringpuller: im good friends with a cocoa distributor and I own a warehouse so its possible
thestringpuller: however i wouldnt want to have a paper trail between fiat and btc in the us after the glbse fiasco
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.000625 = 9 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder there's an important point to consider in the discussion of X.IDIFF margins as the quarters roll by which we skipped over last time.
thestringpuller: now that i think of it, it wouldn't really matter. if the cocoa comes staright from the distributor, then there is no reason to use am exchange except for pricing
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder if you deposit 2.3btc today for the SEP and then as MAR rolls by the diff actually went way up like 9x, the new collateral is just 3x, but 3x the NEW price, which is 9x.
thestringpuller: the us, but delivery to end user could originate from anywhere
mircea_popescu: no, what i mean is. suppose X has 500 contracts to take delivery on
thestringpuller: or he is selling it to the coffee shop and he gives that address
mircea_popescu: or more like DAT ? you don't clear customs/taxes do you
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: one moment i am on a phone lemme change olatforms
EskimoBob: mmm... no idea. Trading cocoa beans?
mircea_popescu: so. your delivery model is something like what exactly ? CIF ? DAT ? DAP (FIS) ?
thestringpuller: DAT would be directly from distributor to clinet correcnt?
mircea_popescu: "Seller pays for carriage to the terminal, except for costs related to import clearance, and assumes all risks up to the point that the goods are unloaded at the terminal."
mircea_popescu: FIS is the ancient "free in store", buyer pays custom duty if any.
mircea_popescu: but incidentally, what exact cocoa is this ? bean ? processed ? powder ? what specs ?
thestringpuller: i can get beans straight from the farms, as long as I have contracts to sell them against, ergo the clearing house
EskimoBob: cocoa beans taste... umm... interesting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.000625 = 5.0006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00062473 = 6.0286 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1499 @ 0.00062432 = 0.9359 BTC [-]
pigeons: i drink it all day every day
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well this is certainly interesting. what fee would you need for delivery and what min/max volumes ?
thestringpuller: ideally mircea_popescu my vision was that of buyer X has some Y number of contracts on cocoa, I would need to know his "end game" as where he wants the cocoa to end up, is it part of a portfolio or would he be "sub-distributing" to say coffee shops or a bean roaster
thestringpuller: if he just wants to pick up said asset, and store it in his house from port or whatever delivery terminal that can be arranged, but given we're dealing with the internet (this person could be any place on earth), then there has to be some kind of shipping network
thestringpuller: mainly all I need is a good delivery egineer, the fee would depend on volume
thestringpuller: well ISYS/logistics engineer like those guys who yell at the warehouse packers to make sure UPS is "moving at the speed of business"
mircea_popescu: 1. upon settlement date all held contracts are to be delivered, mpex prepares list of fingerprints and amounts, signs the list and sends it to you.
mircea_popescu: 2. people on the list send you signed messages stating disposition of their cocoa
mircea_popescu: 3. you execute within a fixed timeframe, possibly for a fee.
mircea_popescu: well, if beneficiary fails to state you don't deliver.
thestringpuller: if all contracts are coming from a geographic convergence point (close to the same area) rather than a divergent one, the cost is significantly lower
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing any volume yet, haven't gotten to that
thestringpuller: for instance if this were barrels of oil and not crates of cocoa
thestringpuller: i have a question about 1: upon the settlement date, the clearing house would immediately purchase said physical assets immediately (whatever total volume dependent on the list from 1 and 2), from money on hand, however would mpex reimburse them (in btc that is)
mircea_popescu: when the time comes, everything outstanding you deliver.
thestringpuller: i thought the settler and buyer were usually the same or am I confused?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00336465 = 10.094 BTC [+]
rbenzaquen: mircea_popescu: Hi , Is there any place that help me to understand how can I start working with mpex.co?
rbenzaquen: mircea_popescu: Thanks, I have installed gpg in my linux box, do I need to generate a pub key?
mircea_popescu: yes, you generate a public/private keypair. one second
rbenzaquen: mircea_popescu: great, I'll do that now. something I don't understand, how you co-relate your gpg public key with BTC public key?
rbenzaquen: mircea_popescu: If I want to make an order, how do I pay it?
mircea_popescu: say you want to deposit 100 btc. it says "deposit 100.48973984 BTC"
rbenzaquen: ok, So , I'll start creating my gpg pub key. and start playing, thanks very much for your help!!
rbenzaquen: I'll look fwd to learn and start operating.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1751 @ 0.00062432 = 1.0932 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5512 @ 0.00062381 = 3.4384 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10537 @ 0.00062344 = 6.5692 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6863 @ 0.00062344 = 4.2787 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12837 @ 0.00062254 = 7.9915 BTC [-]
rbenzaquen: mircea_popescu: can I ask you one more question?
rbenzaquen: Invalid Signature, do not trust this data.
rbenzaquen: Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx, perhaps you didn't sign the key? try running
rbenzaquen: I did not send 30BTC, I don't know to where.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7596 @ 0.00062254 = 4.7288 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: so, who is going to do the PT for ART? :)
mircea_popescu: rbenzaquen well if you signed the key it should be ok.
EskimoBob: rbenzaquen: there are "brokers" who can execute your trades for you, so you do not have to cough up the excessive account sign up fees :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00063069 = 2.0182 BTC [+]
Namjies: mircea_popescu: fancy. I say the change.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 750 @ 0.00336465 = 2.5235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0034 = 4.93 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.55000, Best ask: 13.59990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04990, Last trade: 13.55001, 24 hour volume: 22995.40107950, 24 hour low: 13.05001, 24 hour high: 13.62989, 24 hour vwap: 13.48703
smickles: thestringpuller: do I know any basic linear algerbra? I should think so
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00062343 = 7.8552 BTC [-]
smickles: so a clearing house... it basically holds stuff and keeps a record of who owns it and makes it easy to transfer ownership of the things?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13925 @ 0.00062343 = 8.6813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6896 @ 0.00062254 = 4.293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062182 = 1.71 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00061952 = 3.2704 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50 @ 0.00061934 = 0.031 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00061934 = 3.9947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00061907 = 3.3739 BTC [-]
smickles: so the icbit situation speaks directly to the need for a btc clearinghouse
mircea_popescu: "o no, we are not bucket shop mpoe-pr speaks lies!1!11!"
smickles: < smickles> so a clearing house... it basically holds stuff and keeps a record of who owns it and makes it easy to transfer ownership of the things? <<< i'll add requiring collateral to this
smickles: it's certainly plauseable that they were trying to pop the longs
mircea_popescu: Nov 17 19:58:23 <_Fireball> so, would you be a man and write an apology?
mircea_popescu: Nov 17 19:57:25 <_Fireball> honestly, by reading your blog post, I see that you have little idea how futures exchanges work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00061907 = 2.3525 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: everything that is posted here at least
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00061907 = 9.348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061876 = 6.5589 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00061876 = 0.4331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061823 = 6.5532 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sooo, rg just announced in a private channel that bvps is undergoing a merger/sale/something.
Namjies: me, arij and phungus will probably take over BitVPS. He just disclosed the 3 of us in OTC.
Namjies: How the remaining shares will be shared and how BitVPS will be managed is not known for now.
mircea_popescu: Namjies so you plan on delisting it ? or do a sort of m/a thing ?
Namjies: It would remain as is for MPEx.
rg: one of my sale stipulations
Namjies: Profits split on 1 million shares.
rg: is that everything stays the way it was
rg: except for the fact that i work for one of the companies that hosts a bitvps server
rg: i will be in the shadows
rg: offering them hardware for cheap
rg: its quite funny how i got this job
rg: i used to get into it wit hthier support all the time
rg: one day, boss contacts me
rg: 'hey. you're smart. will you work for us?'
rg: mircea: i started as a level 1 tech
rg: i am now support manager and a lead on the operations team
rg: i accomplished this in less than 2 months.
rg: and i love my new company
mircea_popescu: step 1. become support manager + lead ops. step 2. ???. step 3. linode hacked.
rg: and they love/need me
Namjies: Oh, that's what happened...
mod6: no one got scammed. cool your jets.
Diablo-D3: cant put that geanie back in the bottle
rg: youre just mad cause i replaced your boyfriend at rapidxen
Diablo-D3: YES RG, I AM TOTALLY HAVING LOTS OF SEX WITH NENOLOD _ALL THE TIME_
Diablo-D3: SERIOUSLY, WE'RE HALF WAY THROUGH THAT 55 GALLON DRUM OF LUBE WE GOT OFF AMAZON
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1232 @ 0.00063069 = 0.777 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ha ha jokes on you, steve would have to pay millions if you did that
Diablo-D3: and by millions, I mean he'd just beat you with a pipe until you stop moving
rg: yeh steve is crazy about legal stuff
rg: if anyone mentions legalities in a ticket
rg: i have to immediately hand it over to him
rg: one guy threatend to sue us cause i didnt answer his ticket within an hour
rg: i basically told him to go fuck himself
rg: only to find out later that it was a HUGE mistake
rg: and i shouldve jst handed over the ticket
Diablo-D3: yeah dude, when someone says sue you have to say go fuck yourself on legal letterhead
rg: even if theres no real case,i still have to hand it over
Diablo-D3: preferably, one of those law firms that have like four names
rg: i wouldnt wanna fuck with enzu's lawyers
Diablo-D3: (the more names on the firm, the more they bill you for. true story.)
rg: and i can tell you their retainer fee is ridic
Diablo-D3: if steve told me he writes a million dollar check to them every year I wouldnt even bat an eye
EskimoBob: so, if you guys are done circle jerking over a 4 name law firm, tell wtf is going on with BitVPS?
Diablo-D3: oh, rg is just scamming his shareholders
EskimoBob: fuck, the sale of those damn PT's took too fkn long (getting the list etc).
Diablo-D3: < does company have shares? > -> yes -> < does company accept bitcoin? > -> yes -> ( SCAM! )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11018 @ 0.00063069 = 6.9489 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2682 @ 0.00063596 = 1.7056 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: I asked about few weeks ago, is BitVPS going under and some cunt here was assuring me, that everything is fine blaa blaa blaa
rg: if i continued to half ass it, yes, it would go under
rg: but im stopping that before it happens
EskimoBob: will they honour the old shares/contracts?
rg: thats one of my contract stipulations
Diablo-D3: RUN FOR THE HIIIIIiiiiIIiiIIIiiIIiiIILLLLS
Diablo-D3: RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE
rg: The following stipulations will be imposed on this deal:
rg: 1. Customers will not be moved
rg: 2. Nothing will change for customers except better service.
rg: 3. arij/someone buys the automated VPS software (something like $50/mo)
EskimoBob: if I can selle my few PT shares back, I am happy. After that, you guys can do what ever you want :)
rg: you can do whatever you want
rg: the only thing thats changing is now bitvps will have a proper staff
EskimoBob: sounds like good news... so lets see
rg: Diablo-D3: i have selected Namjies (BTC-Mining), arij and phungus
rg: phungus has 18 years of linux admin under his belt
rg: and BTC-Mining is well.. the man
rg: and arij is a good guy
rg: i really dont think it will be bad
rg: theyre all trustworthy
rg: i wouldnt let them in if they werent
Diablo-D3: but if he doesnt pay on those btc-mining shares, Im going to beat his ass like a drum
rg: the best part about it is
rg: this is who i wanted to do bitvps
rg: cause an 18 year experienced linux admin is bad...
rg: BTC-Mining is smart with numbers and a good programmer
dub: I've used linux wince 2001 so I know my stuff
Diablo-D3: well, he'd have to have been using linux 6 years longer than me
Diablo-D3: he'd have to have been using linux when it was 3 years old
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5206 @ 0.00063596 = 3.3108 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063773 = 2.7556 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 475 @ 0.00063789 = 0.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00063797 = 12.9508 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2898 @ 0.00063831 = 1.8498 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: I moved permanently to Linux on 2002
smickles: oh, 1 order of magnitude off, i guess
dub: EskimoBob knows his stuff
rg: the first linux i used...
rg: redhat 4.2 was the last good redhat release
Diablo-D3: I moved to linux shortly before potato became stable so....
Diablo-D3: I dual booted for 2-3 years before that
EskimoBob: yeah, potato. is still call debian "potato"
Diablo-D3: I know stable is glacial, but jeez
Diablo-D3: buzz, rex, bo, hamm, slink, woody, sarge, etch, lenny, and squeeze
Diablo-D3: with wheezy testing, and jessie is the next testing after that
Diablo-D3: pretty sure I havent left anyone out
rg: not only was RH my first linux
rg: i got it in a magazine
rg: remember when magazines/books used to come with CDs
EskimoBob: and papers had adds: super fast new CPU 333Mh !
Namjies: I'm not that knowledgeable. I'm not a programmer either.
mircea_popescu: <Diablo-D3> cant put that geanie back in the bottle <<< diablo scammed spelling.
smickles: my first linux was given to my by a friend in the halls of highschool on a floppy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6672 @ 0.00062774 = 4.1883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4276 @ 0.00062507 = 2.6728 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: if we are to completely avoid regulation, i.e. paying 0 taxes to the man to support the welfare kids, wouldn't we have to ship from say a private island? or like the middle of the ocean?
thestringpuller: no ideas at all? like fo realz, how would go cryptoanarchy on it?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15378 @ 0.00062613 = 9.6286 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: we should just overthrow the government in a small country and ship from there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3222 @ 0.00063375 = 2.0419 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: because they fail at life, thinking that going to art school for $20,000 a semester would train them to write the shitty movie that they're parents are paying for
smickles: thestringpuller: I can't currently try to pull off illegal things
smickles: and I mean, specifically, things which are illigal where I am or where my immediate family is
thestringpuller: btc based physical future delivery isn't illegal in the US is it?
smickles: thestringpuller: i'm unsure, but I think we'd only pay tarrifs if we imported things
thestringpuller: we'd buy directly from willing cocoa farmers and that would set the baseline price for the market
thestringpuller: from there it's underwriting the future contracts in a fashion similar to the mpoe bot
thestringpuller: i only keep bringing the bot up because he tends not to lose money in the longterm
mircea_popescu: the mpoe bot is b-s tho. i don't imagine you need something like that if you have price and forecast inputs from the farmers.
smickles: thestringpuller: you wan't to do actual publicly traded futures in 'merica?
thestringpuller: it's be btc based though so it wouldn't be limited to america
smickles: I'm sure there are a ton of regulations to comply with then
smickles: do you have a lot of capital to launch it?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i fail to see the sense, if the cocoa isn't produced in the states why centralize it there ?
smickles: get an employee in columbia or wherever
thestringpuller: i mean I can send people to columbia or wherever the fuck the farm is and they can set up a trailer office there
thestringpuller: i mean if you can make it so I have control and it's in another country (some vehicle to do that) I'd rather go that option
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062518 = 2.7014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10689 @ 0.00062507 = 6.6814 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: logically, a lawschool student incapable of drafting incorporation papers isn't able to graduate.
thestringpuller: smickles: what is your take on this physical delivery of futures
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm not familiar enough on practicing the business in 'merica to render much of an opinion. but Ideally, it sounds easy. make contract, honor the contract
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17185 @ 0.00062507 = 10.7418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00062292 = 4.8532 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: smickles what about the underwriting model? the mpoe bot seems to make most of it's money because it prices the contracts effectively
smickles: there are models for futures too, actually, it's possible to even use b-s, as options and futures can be converted to one another
thestringpuller: there are 2-3 people in the coffee world who would be interested in funding this endeavor
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller basically, you know what delivery costs, you know what you can buy cocoa for, so offer that
smickles: If you really need help with a pricing model, I can probably help you punch the numbers into one of the standard formulas
thestringpuller: well less help with the model and more with the accounting, I would like to retain your btc accounting services
smickles: ah, you want me to do bookkeeping and reports for you?
Diablo-D3: no one expects the spanish inquisition
Diablo-D3: frankly, I think they're hiding in the fridge
Diablo-D3: open it to get a soda BAM, forum threads spill out with scam accusations
Diablo-D3: just someone who got scammed by nefario
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00062292 = 2.2681 BTC [-]
smickles: thestringpuller: you must know i'm not an expert in commodities trade regulation
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: cocoa is sold all over the wold. Why not talk to some of the guys?
EskimoBob: maybe you can use existing delivery networks to get your goods moving
thestringpuller: it'd be like someone using gold bars to buy oil or something
EskimoBob: you do not ship currency, you ship goods
smickles: thestringpuller: from what i'm reading, it is generally illegal for 'mericans to offer futures to other 'mericans, unless it is done on a US regulated exchange
EskimoBob: you get paid in BTC and this is your business
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: I am not sure why is this even important. BTC is just a way to transfer fiat
thestringpuller: also with physical delivery of a futures contract I imagine with something like cocoa it'd be a way to move cocoa from a place of high supply to low demand
thestringpuller: by from market X that is in indonesia during a good season sell beans to coffee shops in new york
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062318 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00062292 = 2.534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00061823 = 1.7978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10679 @ 0.000618 = 6.5996 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13474 @ 0.00061761 = 8.3217 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: do you see that BTC has actually nothing to do with that :) You need to move goods - few metric tons of beans ?
mircea_popescu: well, futures are not commonly used for procurement irl, but that may be different for btc i guess
smickles: thestringpuller: it seems that my company might have to register with the NFA
EskimoBob: you need to use established shipping routes, wholesellers etc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061771 = 2.6691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00061761 = 0.9394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7958 @ 0.00061732 = 4.9126 BTC [-]
smickles: ah, thestringpuller foreign business that do futures business with us customers need to get an exemption from the cftc
EskimoBob: for start. Go sell a bag of beans you get wfom local whole seller and see what happens. Then try to buy a bag from X and send get it to your destination Y and see, what happens.
mircea_popescu: smickles at the leves involved i would imagine this would simply count as contract sourcing.
smickles: so if you want to do this, you either need to 'know your customer' or not live in 'merica
EskimoBob: you can live where ever you want but you need to have a actual company in those countries :)
thestringpuller: even if the physical side oftheoperation is being run by romanian orphans
EskimoBob: and that's why I am telling to use distributors that are set in those countries. Not sure, what the value is you actually add to the deal but this is up to you to figure out ;)
thestringpuller: smickles: i refuse to be regulated, if money launderers want to by lots of coffee let them
smickles: heh, thestringpuller i don't see anything about the accountant needing to be registered with the nfa
EskimoBob: get yourself a 65 Kg bag and see, what you can do with it :)
EskimoBob: and I recommend looking around a bit. who is your competition for start
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5272 @ 0.00061732 = 3.2545 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: ask yourself: what is the value I am offering to my clients?
EskimoBob: figure out your businessmodel and for start, test it on paper
smickles: thestringpuller: I don't think I could take you on as a client if I suspected your business operated in violation of the gov't's rules
smickles: thestringpuller: essentially, if you set up a foreign company to do this, and get a lawer to look it over and say it's ok, then I could
thestringpuller: “The thing that needs to be emphasized is that futures contracts are risk management tools,” Harangody says. “They are not intended to be procurement contracts” due to the expense and difficulty of meeting the exchange’s requirements. It’s easier to exit your responsibilities in the futures contract and go into the spot market and buy or sell those commodities, he adds.
smickles: but, as I am trying to become a CPA in the future, there are ethical guidelines I need to adhere too
thestringpuller: I think as mircea_popescu said, it'd be more like a contract settler
smickles: I just need to be reasonably sure that it's not illegal for you to do ;)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: would physical delivery be a stepping stone for a procurment market?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2020 @ 0.00061732 = 1.247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00061715 = 4.9989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0006162 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00061574 = 9.2361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00061533 = 13.3219 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3825 @ 0.00061469 = 2.3512 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what value do you see physical delivery bringing to btc?
thestringpuller: is it just because that's the way contracts were always done?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062348 = 2.6941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5755 @ 0.00062368 = 3.5893 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: othwise futures markets fail to work, as icbit is on the verge of proving
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006235 = 1.247 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the bot itself turning a profit and mpoe showing a profit are diff things
smickles: thestringpuller: basically, the bondholders took some of their own principal
mircea_popescu: well, take nov. the bot made about 2k btc trading about 20k each way.
mircea_popescu: but because it used ~40k btc to insure its trades and they ended up auctioned for like 9.9%
mircea_popescu: smickles i really have to come up with a better accounting scheme for this, it confuses EVERYBODY
smickles: mircea_popescu: if you capped the % to not return principle, it wouldn't show a loss
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2321 @ 0.0006235 = 1.4471 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13795 @ 0.00062368 = 8.6037 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles yeah i guess, but for one i'd end up with having to round interests.
smickles: mircea_popescu: or, you could but a line item in underneat the 'loss' line explaining that X of the loss was returned principle
smickles: that way, unless there actually was a loss, the two would cancel each other out
mircea_popescu: i think ima end up hiring free accounting support for random members of the public
mircea_popescu: by now mpex is obscure enough to warrant a fucking qualification
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm just suggesting to put the equivilant of this "1,961.31822035 BTC extra, which were also needed to pay the bondholders was actually taken out of their bonds" right under the -1`961.31822035
mircea_popescu: basically, bondholders asked for 9.9%. mpoe made enough to pay ~5%. the rest came out of their capital, as a sort of amortisation of a bizzare kind
mircea_popescu: eventually you passively get all your capital back if the business sucks.
mircea_popescu: well 1. you mean mpoe or the bot and 2. make money for whom ?
mircea_popescu: it ALWAYS makes money for shareholders on the grounds it can never lose any.
thestringpuller: can the bondholders exit their bond position and get their entire principle back in a liquidation event?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063363 = 2.7379 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3078 @ 0.00063375 = 1.9507 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7001 @ 0.00063861 = 4.4709 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the thing is see, if bot trades 20k contracts it matters A LOT
thestringpuller: but it seems like the bot is getting reemed on the capital expenses
gribble: Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well people can always put their btc in more bonds
mircea_popescu: cause that's what bondholders ask for. its an auction model
mircea_popescu: if someone puts 5k at 1%, someone else 2% at 3% and someone 100 btc at 25%
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1664 @ 0.00063005 = 1.0484 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: that amount of capital needed to trade drives up the price of capital expesnes
mircea_popescu: and in any event, i don't think THE ENTIRE world of BTC paid 2k interest on deposits last month.
mircea_popescu: so you know... MPOE is the financial center of lending by a fat margin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17588 @ 0.00063861 = 11.2319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3361 @ 0.00063861 = 2.1464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00063864 = 15.2316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00063925 = 0.6322 BTC [+]
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5011 @ 0.00063925 = 3.2033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6267 @ 0.00063949 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2622 @ 0.00063995 = 1.6779 BTC [+]
gribble: Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0006337 = 3.5487 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2657 @ 0.00063005 = 1.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3393 @ 0.00062981 = 2.1369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00062981 = 13.0056 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;rate mircea_popescu -10 FUCKIN SCAMMER!!! Has MILKed me for over 0.1336 BTC!! PROOF!!
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 2 to -10.
kakobrekla: 00:29.46 ( mircea_popescu ) look under bed
kakobrekla: 00:29.49 ( kakobrekla ) 1P9rQm6AfVXuzPtQf8B9pT4aeoPFAzKZ72
kakobrekla: 00:29.49 ( mircea_popescu ) it's where i always find mine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4594 @ 0.00062981 = 2.8933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062725 = 6.8998 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6656 @ 0.00062505 = 4.1603 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: alright, outweight the missing 0.074% of the settelment payment
kakobrekla: ;;rate mircea_popescu 3 made good on the deeds.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -10 to 3.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3628 @ 0.00063989 = 2.3215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12517 @ 0.00063546 = 7.9541 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but i mean... a pentium 4 is worth more than 5 bux no ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16894 @ 0.00062505 = 10.5596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4003 @ 0.00062182 = 2.4891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.0033341 = 7.5017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19643 @ 0.00062573 = 12.2912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8894 @ 0.00062696 = 5.5762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00063278 = 8.3527 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9663 @ 0.00063428 = 6.129 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: to see if it was a fair transcription the first time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.0033341 = 3.3108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062354 = 6.4225 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.55130, Best ask: 13.55131, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.55130, 24 hour volume: 15218.16247989, 24 hour low: 13.44216, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.54337
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0034 = 4.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00063009 = 5.4188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0006315 = 5.5572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00337621 = 8.2717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000624 = 1.248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1797 @ 0.00062354 = 1.1205 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00062282 = 2.8338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5476 @ 0.00062111 = 3.4012 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 570 @ 0.00334008 = 1.9038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062135 = 2.6849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4724 @ 0.00062111 = 2.9341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3489 @ 0.00062082 = 2.166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062033 = 4.4974 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2966 @ 0.0006161 = 1.8274 BTC [-]
Namjies: What? Would it be going in the other direction than the strings you're pulling?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062268 = 2.6906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169 @ 0.0006226 = 0.1052 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00061958 = 3.0731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0034 = 11.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006306 = 2.7248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2474 @ 0.00063083 = 1.5607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3355 @ 0.00063293 = 2.1235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062828 = 2.7148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00062841 = 4.4485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16835 @ 0.00062841 = 10.5793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6165 @ 0.00062952 = 3.881 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10027 @ 0.00062469 = 6.2638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062257 = 2.6901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1802 @ 0.00062222 = 1.1212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062252 = 2.6899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24779 @ 0.00062222 = 15.418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062333 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00062364 = 0.3923 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12005 @ 0.00061958 = 7.4381 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 745 @ 0.0006194 = 0.4615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.0006194 = 5.3609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4071 @ 0.00061301 = 2.4956 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5748 @ 0.00061301 = 3.5236 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 914 @ 0.00061254 = 0.5599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9538 @ 0.00061202 = 5.8374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00061667 = 14.4917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0034 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Ukto: I hope you reset your passwd after that :P
Ukto: finished setting up the stuff for terra
Ukto: working on another little something thats like a 10min peice of code
Ukto: iz not spring 2013 yet
Ukto: go away future boy!
Ukto: vomiting, ER visits... high blood pressure, stress...
Ukto: occasional diarea of the mouth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3871 @ 0.00061942 = 2.3978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2893 @ 0.00062072 = 1.7957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00061709 = 2.5609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061291 = 2.6484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5132 @ 0.00061274 = 3.1446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061573 = 2.6606 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00061601 = 5.6365 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00062072 = 4.3941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9903 @ 0.00062072 = 6.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9097 @ 0.00062364 = 5.6733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00061659 = 11.1603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00061274 = 6.3682 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00337085 = 4.7192 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: how is this rota thingy going to enforce anything?
EskimoBob: and the point of the whole thing is?
mircea_popescu: well, the problem with "enforcing" is that it takes effort. X does something stupid and now Y has to drop whatever he's doing, expend time and energy FORCING X to do the right thing ?
EskimoBob: so what you just said is that rota thingy is pointless
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062333 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14033 @ 0.00062364 = 8.7515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2796 @ 0.00062381 = 1.7442 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: no, this hyperbole bull shit is not working on me :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062352 = 2.6942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7192 @ 0.00062381 = 4.4864 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you're not very well equipped to think, is the problem. but otherwise, hey.
EskimoBob: you can not even explain your own idea the ... wtf
EskimoBob: you have the problem with thinking :)
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu, more substance, less opinions ;)
Ukto: EskimoBob: you seem up early :P
EskimoBob: or what ever you so pompously stated
Ukto: couldnt sleep? too excited over the asset? :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6869 @ 0.00062348 = 4.2827 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.00062348 = 4.976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5394 @ 0.00061274 = 3.3051 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00061206 = 0.1377 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061233 = 2.6459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14075 @ 0.00061206 = 8.6147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7354 @ 0.00061202 = 4.5008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061229 = 2.6457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35091 @ 0.00061202 = 21.4764 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061207 = 2.6448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00061202 = 7.209 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00061425 = 0.9214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3438 @ 0.00061202 = 2.1041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00061134 = 0.6725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19662 @ 0.00061083 = 12.0101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00061425 = 1.7328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0006144 = 5.7139 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00062041 = 6.6074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1629 @ 0.00062381 = 1.0162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062271 = 9.3407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00061962 = 5.136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18576 @ 0.00061083 = 11.3468 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061103 = 2.6403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00061083 = 4.8738 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.AWHG] 220 @ 0.06231503 = 13.7093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 230 @ 0.2576593 = 59.2616 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6033 @ 0.00061083 = 3.6851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00061077 = 12.0627 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3617 @ 0.00060993 = 2.2061 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6433 @ 0.00060993 = 3.9237 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9517 @ 0.00060927 = 5.7984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061734 = 2.6675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00061762 = 0.265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061728 = 2.6673 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3465 @ 0.00061762 = 2.1401 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006175 = 2.6682 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2256 @ 0.00061762 = 1.3934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13523 @ 0.00061951 = 8.3776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00337085 = 0.3371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 315 @ 0.00334008 = 1.0521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1535 @ 0.0033341 = 5.1178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3727 @ 0.00061951 = 2.3089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2564 @ 0.00062381 = 1.5994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2009 @ 0.00062388 = 1.2534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062388 = 1.7157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061407 = 2.6534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11279 @ 0.000614 = 6.9253 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.0006206 = 14.7082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2459 @ 0.0006206 = 1.5261 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6271 @ 0.000614 = 3.8504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00061293 = 5.0119 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what else does btc need to win the war on fiat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062353 = 2.6943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5641 @ 0.00062388 = 3.5193 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4017 @ 0.00062415 = 2.5072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061317 = 2.6495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00061293 = 4.0723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061325 = 2.6499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00061293 = 3.0211 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: I will be old, but not dead. Come by to see me, and bring a bottle.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062396 = 2.6961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3833 @ 0.00062415 = 2.3924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00062479 = 14.995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00062564 = 11.6056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10806 @ 0.00062635 = 6.7683 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11326 @ 0.00062952 = 7.1299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 814 @ 0.00062981 = 0.5127 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: you want to pay for civil engineering projects with BTC eh?
thestringpuller: mpex and silk road I think are the only two businesses with enough BTC volume to even consider large LoC's for projects.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061315 = 2.6494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00061293 = 4.1373 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00060927 = 1.5433 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1096 @ 0.00060884 = 0.6673 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: instead of everyone spending millions and waiting around for months for the banks to bother moving the locs around
thestringpuller: but we aren't at a point yet where BTC is liquid enough to use for end user payment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060907 = 2.6318 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3466 @ 0.00060884 = 2.1102 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this isn't consumer tho. suppose you want to buy 5 container's worth of cutlery.
thestringpuller: (because we all know chinese factories are just a 90 year old china man running in a hamster wheel)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14227 @ 0.00061414 = 8.7374 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: 4 generations have lived and died from order time to delivery
mircea_popescu: In a scheme traced to a Russian computer and a hacker who calls himself "vorVzakone,"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1541 @ 0.0033341 = 5.1378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.0033268 = 4.0221 BTC [-]
Ukto: thats the most useless news report
Ukto: man, after all these years.I cant belive someones try to hack banks! WOW
Ukto: so fucking tired -_-
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller looky. in normal commerce you go to your bank, get a loc, forward it to your supplier, signa contract, get telivery
Ukto: i finished writing the code I wanted
mircea_popescu: this takes about a month and costs about half a million dollars.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12073 @ 0.00061414 = 7.4145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7938 @ 0.00060884 = 4.833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2762 @ 0.00060866 = 1.6811 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: sure but liquidity is an issue for large volumes there is no dark pool exchange that would handle large volumes of that much
thestringpuller: after the horror stories I hear about MTGox, trading back into a form of fiat seems...annoying
Ukto: double that, with a mcdonalds gift certificate a day :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3391 @ 0.0033268 = 11.2812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 759 @ 0.00332404 = 2.5229 BTC [-]
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also (1 more message)
gribble: Error: "bid" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "bc,buy" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: there's a "bid up to X would buy so much and cost so much" command
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061389 = 2.6526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4077 @ 0.00061404 = 2.5034 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 101863.18 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 2321158.05691 USD in total.
EskimoBob: "mcdonalds gift certificate a day" lol, you must hate yourself :)
Ukto: was just trying to come up with something wtf'ish to toss in
EskimoBob: didn't you have some health problems few days back?
EskimoBob: so you can gracefully refuse the job offered?
Ukto: heart burn mebbe...
Ukto: Diablo-D3: saws it :P
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 14.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
gribble: There are currently 88031.165 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 1043490.39366 USD in total.
thestringpuller: "As a complete aside: putting a 5mn BTC buywall @ $200 each up in MtGox might actually be the most rational use of a billion dollars currently. You'll end up with 2-3 mn BTC and the price will be permanently in the hundreds. Profit."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00061869 = 6.3106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20005 @ 0.0006228 = 12.4591 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: wow, you guys still have petrol in 80'is? I haven't see anything below 92 for years :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061714 = 2.6667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8129 @ 0.00061713 = 5.0166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062249 = 2.6898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5645 @ 0.0006228 = 3.5157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1984 @ 0.00062688 = 1.2437 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062673 = 2.7081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00062688 = 3.9255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061714 = 2.6667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00061713 = 3.4535 BTC [-]
Ukto: doesnt jurov have somethign to do with coinbr?
Ukto: or is my memory hazzy like usualy
Ukto: then who is rini17 ?
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <usagi> ahh well I guess I can't stick around... stuff to do ^^ good luck
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006267 = 2.708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00062688 = 3.9675 BTC [+]
Ukto: I predict Santa will skip your house this year. :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061723 = 2.6671 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00061713 = 0.1389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6354 @ 0.00061229 = 3.8905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000615 = 1.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061263 = 2.6472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061259 = 2.647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00061229 = 1.5283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3362 @ 0.00060866 = 2.0463 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: $ ~/code/bitcoin/namecoin/src/namecoind getinfo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00061764 = 1.9764 BTC [+]
jurov: Ukto, wouldn't you be perturbed if deadterra ignored you completely and instead chose some other trolls?
jurov: in the end, maybe i'll have the last laugh and be glad i did not get pulled into the mess
jurov: but ignoring my offer completely? a bit unnerving
jurov: especially that we was like "i don't have time for this, gsdpt will be dissolved"
mircea_popescu: anyone running mpex can check on this bizzare "Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx, perhaps you didn't sign the key?" error ?
jurov: i don't get it (the error, i mean)
jurov: mircea, if you did not change the addy, you'll get this error
mircea_popescu: i think some clients are failing to redirect properly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061457 = 2.6556 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.0006147 = 0.6891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1108 @ 0.00061481 = 0.6812 BTC [+]
jurov: Azelphur, so you put mpex.co into browser and end up on trilema?
Azelphur: so yea, it's probably just that people have DNS caches that havn't updated yet
jurov: if it's only chromium, i think is not dns, instead the chromium cached the permanent redirect that was there before
jurov: no, it went to polimedia.us/bitcoin/ or so
Azelphur: wfm without the trailing slash, didn't have a trailing slash before
jurov: ahh i confused it with mpex.us , sry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4241 @ 0.00332404 = 14.0973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1040 @ 0.0033099 = 3.4423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5650 @ 0.0033085 = 18.693 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00330569 = 14.8756 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3624 @ 0.00330328 = 11.9711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00330166 = 13.867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2758 @ 0.00328363 = 9.0563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00328102 = 4.2653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00327777 = 13.9305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2269 @ 0.00326356 = 7.405 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.00325795 = 10.2625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00325586 = 5.535 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00325365 = 9.9236 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3850 @ 0.0032516 = 12.5187 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3215 @ 0.00324185 = 10.4225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00323884 = 2.2672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 503 @ 0.00323631 = 1.6279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47242 @ 0.00061481 = 29.0449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1558 @ 0.00061787 = 0.9626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.00323631 = 0.9677 BTC [-]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: doesn't matter :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.0032254 = 10.4826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7300 @ 0.00318027 = 23.216 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00200001 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00181006 = 1.8101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00181003 = 1.81 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00181002 = 0.905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180051 = 1.8005 BTC [-]
Azelphur: as I say it works, don't fix what ain't broke (tm) :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180027 = 1.8003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 33651 @ 0.0018 = 60.5718 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: whoever got the 33k is making like what, 10% this month on divs
mircea_popescu: "Looking at the amount of information I have to wade through, I've decided to (attempt) to appoint a liquidator."
Bugpowder: Once again, stink bids FTW. 1) Place bid 2) Wait for panic 3) profit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061346 = 2.6508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00061331 = 10.0889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1529 @ 0.00061128 = 0.9346 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061786 = 2.6698 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00061787 = 3.2926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 175 @ 0.12333771 = 21.5841 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: eskimobob Panic due to the successful doublespend attack
EskimoBob: Bugpowder: I was reading it too but sounds like it got fixed.
mircea_popescu: a little silly seeing how it was fixed already i thought
EskimoBob: I am not so worried about the possible double spend but how easy it is to copy that business and take away the clients by adding few cool features
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3405 @ 0.00061757 = 2.1028 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: if you need to perm change rules to only allow confirmed bets
Bugpowder: then the volume will go down on the small bets at least
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: gambling is really ugly on low business, I have told this before. I am not going to poke that pile of shit with any stick :)
Bugpowder: martingale betting is less fun if you need to wait for a confirm
mircea_popescu: you're not going to do anything other than just talk, basically.
mircea_popescu: forum muppets just like you were all about duplicating sd back in august i think.
Bugpowder: I wish the asshole who sold would sell into my bi
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you go and poke that pile of shit if you like
EskimoBob: not me, I am not going to do shit like that.
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 70 @ 0.03470276 = 2.4292 BTC
EskimoBob: you are welcome to think like that. I do not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 916 @ 0.00061757 = 0.5657 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: you must be one of those people who think there is mob involvment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00061787 = 6.3412 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1507 @ 0.00062202 = 0.9374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14492 @ 0.00062344 = 9.0349 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: see pm again, about the other idea you had
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 20 @ 0.07995 = 1.599 BTC
mircea_popescu: for instance, mar diff is rated 8mn, june diff is rated 3.5mn ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061141 = 2.6419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9271 @ 0.00061128 = 5.6672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4508 @ 0.00061099 = 2.7543 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I feel like its just one dude who is like, I wonder how this works, lets buy some!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062332 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00062344 = 3.1534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15552 @ 0.00062652 = 9.7436 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061127 = 2.6413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3629 @ 0.00061099 = 2.2173 BTC [-]
jurov: just some really free (as in, no monthly payments) coinbr account
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22000, Best ask: 13.29696, Bid-ask spread: 0.07696, Last trade: 13.21005, 24 hour volume: 19323.13716275, 24 hour low: 13.21002, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.47200
jurov: figuring out other ways to screw the users, and whether it's worthwhile at all
jurov: no no, you have "Standard" account
jurov: this plan would be for freeloaders, if they desire it so much, let em have it
Bugpowder: thestringpuller Just to MAR ones... To test the system. I usually can't figure out how the futures or options contracts work before I have some coins in them :-P
mircea_popescu: " I feel like its just one dude who is like, I wonder how this works, lets buy some!" << now we know who :D
mircea_popescu: jurov i did find it a little funny people were like.. PAYING assets to list. competition eh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062628 = 1.8162 BTC [+]
jurov: hehe, yes. i considered dropping some vitriol like "and now deadterra ecretly hopes to pocket the 10btc"
jurov: but let be that someone else who points out, not me
jurov: no it's not. i'd went much more beyond some rant on btctalk if it was the case.
EskimoBob: ASIC circus is moving from ass kissing to ass kicking
EskimoBob: really dense and hand rounded vaporware
EskimoBob: or is it glossware? They had pretty pictures :)
thestringpuller: i feel like everyone is underestimating the difficulty of mass producing an IC that's never been printed before
jurov: meh, SHA256 circuit certainly exists
jurov: it's not like thay have to draw all the gates and program all that vhdl
thestringpuller: they probably copy-pasted VHDL and had a copy paste error :P
EskimoBob: if those show up in March, we can say that that was fast.
thestringpuller: the micro electronics research facilities at technical universities cost hundreds of millions to build
thestringpuller: just because someone can deploy a bitstream to an FPGA doesn't mean they can print a mask, and build an IC from it
EskimoBob: how many coins was sent in preorder boom?
EskimoBob: I pulled bigger number out of my ass - 2 million
thestringpuller: "The design is complete. It’s just a matter of waiting for production and delivery. The boards, enclosures, and assembly teams are standing by, anxiously awaiting delivery of our 100% custom BFL ASIC chips so we can begin assembly and start shipping. "
thestringpuller: any competent electrical engineer would surely pass on a job offer from them
Diablo-D3: TAKE IT TO THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD
EskimoBob: what other topics have you forbidden, oo big Diablo-D3 :)
thestringpuller: "The design is complete. It’s just a matter of waiting for production and delivery. The boards, enclosures, and assembly teams are standing by, anxiously awaiting delivery of the chips so we can begin assembly and start shipping."
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: keep reading, it get funnier
jurov: already seen that sentence somewhere
Diablo-D3: the bfl thread is sinking in bullshit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4120 @ 0.00061888 = 2.5498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201 @ 0.00061888 = 0.1244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23299 @ 0.00061864 = 14.4137 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30003, Best ask: 13.30004, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.30003, 24 hour volume: 19902.69578499, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.46254
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00062628 = 0.8899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1499 @ 0.00062633 = 0.9389 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4114 @ 0.00062019 = 2.5515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 207 @ 0.00062019 = 0.1284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11841 @ 0.00062048 = 7.3471 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7352 @ 0.00062173 = 4.571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062128 = 2.6846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062114 = 0.6211 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10879 @ 0.00062113 = 6.7573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00062113 = 0.1994 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6310 @ 0.00061864 = 3.9036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7726 @ 0.0006152 = 4.753 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 458 @ 0.000611 = 0.2798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061116 = 2.6408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 542 @ 0.000611 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11663 @ 0.00061099 = 7.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7124 @ 0.00060935 = 4.341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060969 = 2.6345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17411 @ 0.00060935 = 10.6094 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00060866 = 2.476 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3741 @ 0.00062173 = 2.3259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10459 @ 0.00062633 = 6.5508 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40000, Best ask: 13.40001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.40000, 24 hour volume: 20990.42923800, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.44749
thestringpuller: he talks about how the money supply has been poisoned by the state
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 580 @ 0.15006733 = 87.0391 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 72450 @ 0.00339995 = 246.3264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062616 = 2.7056 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142 @ 0.00062633 = 0.0889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 393 @ 0.00062652 = 0.2462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00062688 = 0.2865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15987 @ 0.00062756 = 10.0328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00306352 / 0.0034 (212632 shares, 651.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337216 / 0.0034 (5019919 shares, 16,928.01 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062439 = 2.698 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10929 @ 0.00062422 = 6.8221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 448529 @ 0.0034 = 1524.9986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00329178 / 0.0034 (661161 shares, 2,176.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337445 / 0.0034 (5468448 shares, 18,453.01 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062721 = 2.7102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8513 @ 0.00062756 = 5.3424 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6839 @ 0.00062759 = 4.2921 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder lol do you watch the ticker and log into irc when stuff happens ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062752 = 2.7115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00062759 = 8.8358 BTC [+]
Namjies: Hmm, who made the windows branch for pympex?
EskimoBob: kakobrekla: did kakobrekla wrote the assbot?
EskimoBob: I did not notice I had your name on the line from k+"tab"
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EWTI] 306 @ 0.062088 = 18.9989 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: do you have the code publicly available?
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 118 @ 0.1898046 = 22.3969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 132 @ 0.18822917 = 24.8463 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: greedy is writing a bot for LTC markets. I recommended assbot to him
EskimoBob: why invent the wheel if there is something as mature :) like assbot
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00060866 / 0.00062199 / 0.00063995 (2639341 shares, 1,641.66 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00052868 / 0.00063995 (100948276 shares, 53,369.34 BTC)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.20002, Best ask: 13.34900, Bid-ask spread: 0.14898, Last trade: 13.19897, 24 hour volume: 21718.03350525, 24 hour low: 13.19890, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.44090
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.31127, Best ask: 13.43100, Bid-ask spread: 0.11973, Last trade: 13.30405, 24 hour volume: 44367.91893869, 24 hour low: 13.13111, 24 hour high: 13.62000, 24 hour vwap: 13.34416
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7845 @ 0.00063266 = 4.9632 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.0032933 / 0.0034 (689013 shares, 2,269.13 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.0033742 / 0.0034 (5507863 shares, 18,584.64 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063147 = 6.1884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5106 @ 0.00063266 = 3.2304 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22614 @ 0.00063266 = 14.307 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00325109 = 3.2511 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00325109 = 0.3251 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00325109 = 0.6502 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Why can't anyone break this code? they claim it might have involved a "one time pad"
mircea_popescu: uh... can't we super-compute the code on out of there real quick?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00325109 = 2.7634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 150 @ 0.00325704 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063155 = 2.7289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00063147 = 3.7257 BTC [-]
dub: he must have some broke ass friends if anyone is going to jump at $1
mircea_popescu: moreover, i'd be surprised if 1 in 10`000 facebook accounts actually has a human being behind them
mircea_popescu: what he did is basically akin to generating a number of random email addresses, sending them mail, waiting for answers.
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: i've already had my staff contact him, one of them got a tongue-lashing for not following my instructions to do it a long time ago
dub: well, all of my fb friends are real
dub: on my real fb account that is ;)
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: i actually just gave the staff member in question a tongue lashing about this
dub: mircea_popescu likes to tounge lash his employees too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00062885 = 7.2003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00062885 = 9.8101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: coingenuity the risk is always that there's going to be some unhappy customer wedged into some obscure corner
mircea_popescu: i know it costs me plenty of money to try and keep on top of things and i'm only moderately successful at it.
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: actually, he's high on my priority list- the manufacturer of the product he ordered has been doing a total restructuring of their supply chain so i'm having to work with their delay
coingenuity: the issue is that i told my staff to tell him what was going on, but they failed to do so and now he's worried
coingenuity: either way, the person in charge of talking to him has been yelled at, that customer will be sorted shortly
coingenuity: (it should also be noted that he's the only cust still waiting on that product, we luckily had hundreds of oz on hand when the manufacturer took a dump so caught the delay preemptorily)
coingenuity: needless to say, i am far from amused with that particular manufacturer at the moment >.>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062896 = 2.7045 BTC [+]
coingenuity: and, i appreciate you bringing it to my attention, as always- i keep tabs personally on every single order so if someone starts to feel neglected, i like to hear about it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3019 @ 0.00325704 = 9.833 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3900 @ 0.00331655 = 12.9345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4450 @ 0.00332543 = 14.7982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3778 @ 0.00333037 = 12.5821 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 30180 @ 0.0034 = 102.612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15147 @ 0.0034 = 51.4998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00340395 = 7.4887 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 153 @ 0.00341965 = 0.5232 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108 @ 0.00062885 = 0.0679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20392 @ 0.00062766 = 12.7992 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1097 @ 0.00341965 = 3.7514 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00344363 = 5.5098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.0034661 = 6.5856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5722 @ 0.00346716 = 19.8391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1154 @ 0.00347241 = 4.0072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2203 @ 0.00349493 = 7.6993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.0035011 = 11.0285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 27174 @ 0.003695 = 100.4079 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00331734 / 0.003695 (798140 shares, 2,647.71 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337604 / 0.003695 (5616990 shares, 18,963.22 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00062896 = 4.2769 BTC [+]
smickles: does that say 1day low of .0018?
smickles: why couldn't that have been my buy at .00032 D:
mircea_popescu: "I have a webhosting that is of alright speeds in terms of loading pages and stuff, " lol
smickles: at one point in time, that was the best bid
smickles: yeah, it was at the height of that mr.big criticism too
smickles: mircea_popescu: care to say what the current volatility is according to mpoebot?
mircea_popescu: "My wife and I don't have many services to sell here, except for this. She started out as a small B cup, then had a BA surgery (350cc) to bring her to a D, then another about 18 months ago (600cc), to bring her to a DDD. Since then she has really started to take care of her body and has worked out a bunch."
dub: is this the asian breast implant thread?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1511 @ 0.00062896 = 0.9504 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00062896 = 2.0869 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6086 @ 0.00063266 = 3.8504 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00063283 = 1.2631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062797 = 2.7135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1171 @ 0.00062773 = 0.7351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4758 @ 0.00062766 = 2.9864 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10269 @ 0.00062746 = 6.4434 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063256 = 2.7333 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5348 @ 0.00063283 = 3.3844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3131 @ 0.00063312 = 1.9823 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062748 = 2.7113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00062746 = 1.4626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.0006273 = 6.1789 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062928 = 2.8318 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063283 = 2.7345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4867 @ 0.00063312 = 3.0814 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: As many of you know, I'm reaching 18 years old this year, and even though the Bitcoinica venture was extremely exciting and eye-opening for a teenager, I have to admit that I could have displayed a higher level of maturity and professionalism in some matters.
mircea_popescu: Also, I also have to admit that a lot of the business circumstances were well beyond my scope of understanding. I assure you that I have learned the relevant lessons and I will do a much better job in my next project — NameTerrific.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006316 = 2.7291 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10629 @ 0.00063144 = 6.7116 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063268 = 2.7338 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00063302 = 14.0214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9252 @ 0.00063312 = 5.8576 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063145 = 2.7285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00063144 = 6.5626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00062969 = 0.5138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1346 @ 0.00063088 = 0.8492 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3415 @ 0.0006273 = 2.1422 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00062653 = 9.7739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2331 @ 0.00062541 = 1.4578 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00060866 / 0.00062191 / 0.00063703 (2516188 shares, 1,564.85 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00053022 / 0.00063995 (99764148 shares, 52,897.21 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.0033162 / 0.003695 (787254 shares, 2,610.69 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337604 / 0.003695 (5616990 shares, 18,963.22 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0022 / 0.00319418 / 0.0067 (181977 shares, 581.27 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5 @ 0.0067 = 0.0335 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.0067 / 0.0067 / 0.0067 (5 shares, 0.03 BTC), 30day: 0.0022 / 0.00319428 / 0.0067 (181982 shares, 581.30 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5590 @ 0.00062586 = 3.4986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00062586 = 3.1669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063147 = 3.9151 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063292 = 2.7348 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4819 @ 0.00063312 = 3.051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062571 = 2.7037 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00062541 = 2.8262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062516 = 5.8765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1860 @ 0.00062422 = 1.161 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 640 @ 0.00062422 = 0.3995 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15554 @ 0.00062332 = 9.6951 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6556 @ 0.00062324 = 4.086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15144 @ 0.00062324 = 9.4383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00062308 = 0.7514 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11644 @ 0.00062308 = 7.2551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062237 = 5.2279 BTC [-]
smickles: WTS: O.BTCUSD.P10000T @ 8.61 BTC
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.14892, Best ask: 13.14893, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.14892, 24 hour volume: 56690.90771471, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.62000, 24 hour vwap: 13.30401
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00355493 = 15.1085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1427 @ 0.00062175 = 0.8872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00063242 = 3.921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063281 = 2.7344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3315 @ 0.00063312 = 2.0988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063246 = 2.7329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13523 @ 0.00063242 = 8.5522 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3006 @ 0.00062361 = 1.8746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063295 = 2.735 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00063312 = 1.8544 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063305 = 2.7354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8637 @ 0.00063312 = 5.4683 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7642 @ 0.00063354 = 4.8415 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006238 = 2.6954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00062361 = 4.5393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063294 = 4.9053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3521 @ 0.0006333 = 2.2298 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0006333 = 0.5066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12458 @ 0.00063354 = 7.8926 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6384 @ 0.00063407 = 4.0479 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1190 @ 0.0006343 = 0.7548 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063422 = 2.7405 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5341 @ 0.0006343 = 3.3878 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062392 = 2.696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10179 @ 0.00062361 = 6.3477 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063162 = 2.7292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17579 @ 0.00063169 = 11.1045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 760 @ 0.00063169 = 0.4801 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4134 @ 0.0006343 = 2.6222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00063463 = 7.6473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5173 @ 0.00063515 = 3.2856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062602 = 2.705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00062593 = 0.3937 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062627 = 2.7061 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21979 @ 0.00062593 = 13.7573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006262 = 2.7058 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4542 @ 0.00062593 = 2.843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5493 @ 0.00062361 = 3.4255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7544 @ 0.00062215 = 4.6935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063503 = 2.744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18229 @ 0.00063515 = 11.5781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062248 = 2.6897 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3056 @ 0.00062215 = 1.9013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8203 @ 0.0006221 = 5.1031 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063483 = 2.7431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2403 @ 0.00063515 = 1.5263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6285 @ 0.0006352 = 3.9922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063494 = 2.7436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16545 @ 0.0006352 = 10.5094 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1708 @ 0.00063544 = 1.0853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.12854229 = 128.5423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.09560885 = 95.6089 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 300 @ 0.15390384 = 46.1712 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063543 = 2.7457 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20192 @ 0.00063544 = 12.8308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1648 @ 0.00063573 = 1.0477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00063573 = 1.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 702 @ 0.00063573 = 0.4463 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00063588 = 9.4746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5048 @ 0.000636 = 3.2105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062799 = 2.7135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5279 @ 0.00062768 = 3.3135 BTC [-]
jurov: mircea_popescu, what is the minimal amount now to buy mpoe bond? 100BTC?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063592 = 2.7478 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2079 @ 0.000636 = 1.3222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1568 @ 0.00337553 = 5.2928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.0006289 = 11.5403 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062777 = 2.7126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14179 @ 0.00062768 = 8.8999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006286 = 2.7162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.0006289 = 3.742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00063361 = 2.933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006279 = 2.7132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062768 = 4.4251 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000628 = 2.7136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8322 @ 0.00062768 = 5.2236 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063588 = 2.7476 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21129 @ 0.000636 = 13.438 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: AssWob, wtf is wrong with you? Can't you us a fkn comma?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063569 = 2.7468 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8729 @ 0.000636 = 5.5516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063069 = 2.7252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16623 @ 0.00063042 = 10.4795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063064 = 2.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2099 @ 0.00063042 = 1.3233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 480 @ 0.00062768 = 0.3013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063566 = 2.7467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.000636 = 6.8872 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006351 = 2.7443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4822 @ 0.00063509 = 3.0624 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 340 @ 0.00062768 = 0.2134 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13467 @ 0.00062642 = 8.436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063567 = 2.0977 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7133 @ 0.00062642 = 4.4683 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062309 = 4.9224 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6217 @ 0.00062251 = 3.8701 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1883 @ 0.00062251 = 1.1722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18097 @ 0.0006221 = 11.2581 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00062128 = 4.6596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5320 @ 0.00062089 = 3.3031 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00063567 = 0.649 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13541 @ 0.00063583 = 8.6098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062109 = 2.6837 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13508 @ 0.00062089 = 8.387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00062089 = 6.3778 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6960 @ 0.00062042 = 4.3181 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006358 = 2.7473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 659 @ 0.00063583 = 0.419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.000636 = 7.1041 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006357 = 2.7469 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7007 @ 0.000636 = 4.4565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000636 = 6.5826 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: this is nice. Mpex has now 2 stocks, that get trades. Good job :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12714 @ 0.00063571 = 8.0824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062053 = 2.6813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12499 @ 0.00062042 = 7.7546 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5665 @ 0.00061785 = 3.5001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063372 = 2.7383 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7972 @ 0.00063403 = 5.0545 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19657 @ 0.00063582 = 12.4983 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 843 @ 0.00063155 = 0.5324 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063596 = 2.748 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5659 @ 0.000636 = 3.5991 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00063601 = 6.0421 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2470 @ 0.00063603 = 1.571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5407 @ 0.00063603 = 3.439 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063164 = 2.7293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8192 @ 0.00063155 = 5.1737 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8887 @ 0.0006154 = 5.4691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063587 = 2.7476 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10523 @ 0.00063603 = 6.6929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10206 @ 0.0006361 = 6.492 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061544 = 2.6593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12288 @ 0.0006154 = 7.562 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19691 @ 0.00061423 = 12.0948 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.15754, Best ask: 13.23870, Bid-ask spread: 0.08116, Last trade: 13.15754, 24 hour volume: 78551.08864463, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.22707
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063605 = 2.7484 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8174 @ 0.0006361 = 5.1995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062819 = 2.7144 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00062811 = 7.7126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00348748 = 6.2775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2800 @ 0.00351386 = 9.8388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2121 @ 0.00062811 = 1.3322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00062294 = 3.6753 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22102, Best ask: 13.22103, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.22102, 24 hour volume: 82987.55553313, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.23176
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10888 @ 0.00062294 = 6.7826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062164 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.0006216 = 4.7733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062289 = 2.6915 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41 @ 0.00062294 = 0.0255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3088 @ 0.00062705 = 1.9363 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062162 = 2.686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18121 @ 0.0006216 = 11.264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11671 @ 0.00062835 = 7.3335 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2456 @ 0.0006287 = 1.5441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062855 = 2.716 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16344 @ 0.0006287 = 10.2755 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5270 @ 0.0006361 = 3.3522 BTC [+]
jurov: oh, hello mircea_popescu, we are perpetrating something with Ukto
jurov: and want to know, what is minimal investment into MPOE bonds
mircea_popescu: usagi : "Through a mathematical trick I have been able to"
jurov: and January ones can be bought until December 29 midnight, yes?
Ukto: didnt smickles's asset on glbse make some good profit?
Ukto: and one of the arb bot guys..
Ukto: pr "I can't actually think of one that did make money, off the top of my head. Which?
mircea_popescu: course most glbse idiots were too busy buying the scams to put much money in
Ukto: mebbe she was just trolling
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: where is this post by usagi? is it the one jurov just gave us?
mircea_popescu: Look at how btct.co, litecoinglobal.com, bitfunder.com, cryptostocks.com and so on get their clients.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062806 = 2.7138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.00062786 = 5.6376 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, it was one of his numerously amusing threads, something about a liquidator
B0g4r7: I wouldn't touch anything floated by usage through a 10-element proxy chain.
Ukto: mircea_popescu: what, you dont like bribery?
Ukto: eerrr "Promotions" >,>
mircea_popescu: Ukto i have no problem with it, just, the guy is so completely confused he's amusing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00369 = 16.605 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: could you find that thread perhaps? when you have time that is.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: my investors would rather build a commodity market instead of strictly futures physical delivery so that will be added to the plan.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9521 @ 0.00062786 = 5.9779 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7486 @ 0.00062512 = 4.6796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7800 @ 0.00354739 = 27.6696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00348391 = 12.1937 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3010 @ 0.00335248 = 10.091 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00333474 = 10.0042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00333086 = 14.1562 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00332979 = 6.3266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5302 @ 0.00330789 = 17.5384 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4400 @ 0.00327318 = 14.402 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00324542 = 12.9817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00320002 = 1.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12338 @ 0.00320001 = 39.4817 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5443 @ 0.00320001 = 17.4177 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2855 @ 0.00319749 = 9.1288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2952 @ 0.0031637 = 9.3392 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5950 @ 0.0030817 = 18.3361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 454 @ 0.00180001 = 0.8172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6346 @ 0.0018 = 11.4228 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i wonder, does somebody figure this is some sort of attack or something ?
pigeons: some people can't figure out the user-friendliness of mpex so they place a market order?
thestringpuller: bugpowder missed winning the sdice sell off lotto 3 times already lolol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 270635 @ 0.00369 = 998.6432 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00339706 / 0.003695 (1130674 shares, 3,840.97 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00338786 / 0.003695 (5977543 shares, 20,251.09 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062169 = 2.6863 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6405 @ 0.0006216 = 3.9813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00061737 = 0.8026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2974 @ 0.00061695 = 1.8348 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I am not allowed to buy more coins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061706 = 2.6663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7106 @ 0.00061695 = 4.384 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00061479 = 9.1604 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6473 @ 0.00061423 = 3.9759 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Yah. I did not expect T2 to go this early in the div cycle
Bugpowder: I already fucked up the MPOE trade
mircea_popescu: i tell you tho, this is starting to emerge, my trading hat is humming in delight
mircea_popescu: a not so bad, for some reason i had it in my head you missed out on 1.5-2k btc
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ALCG] 170 @ 0.09331194 = 15.863 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062324 = 2.693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2801 @ 0.00062342 = 1.7462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3828 @ 0.00063252 = 2.4213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MHGG] 100 @ 0.25889911 = 25.8899 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061732 = 2.6674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14329 @ 0.00061725 = 8.8446 BTC [-]
pigeons: oh it was me who bought the dics cheap, from old orders
Ukto: no, he's using both BF and btct
Ukto: when burnside gets him set up
Ukto: and letting shareholders decide which they want via the claim process
Ukto: so far more than 9 shrehodlers have claimed, BF has got the majority.
Ukto: but thats prolly the last I will mention of such things >,>
Ukto: might be taken the wrong way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8911 @ 0.0006171 = 5.499 BTC [-]
Ukto: what terra calls it
Ukto: Gamma SatoshiDice Pass Through
Ukto: might have him rename it to G.SDICEPT
Ukto: mine is doing 'group'.(name)
Ukto: so if can be G.SBLAH
Ukto: or w/e if he does more assets
Ukto: so if you were to be an issue for say 4 things, you could name them all MP.(name) or whatever
Ukto: "News" - "TRAGEDY AS ENTERTAINMENT"
jcpham: i'm not trying to be offensive, i swear
Ukto: thats why I dont pay too much to the news
Ukto: mircea_popescu: plugger. you already pasted that :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00061725 = 4.5677 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: OneFixt actually come to think about it, maybe that's what the guy selling s.dice down to 18 was doing
OneFixt: can i borrow some shares"? =)
mircea_popescu: then again, you thought they were too expensive when they were doing 20ish iirc.
OneFixt: sure, but i wouldn't have acted on it back then
OneFixt: markets can be too expensive or too cheap for longer than most of us can stay solvent
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: would you allow me to run decentralized commodities on mpex? if i get a plan in order
thestringpuller: im having analysis run on supply prices for like cocoa and wheat and other things from small local farms
smickles: OneFixt: I have shares you can borrow :)
OneFixt: hehe, i'm thinking about it
thestringpuller: smickles: put what you're holding for me into s.mpoe and hold
EskimoBob: yawn ... James is still compiling the lists
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
smickles: thestringpuller: ident first ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6241 @ 0.00061896 = 3.8629 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9893 @ 0.0006171 = 6.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00061423 = 3.0318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1230 @ 0.00061337 = 0.7544 BTC [-]
smickles: thestringpuller: just in case it's actually you, I'll reserve a price of 0.00061896
smickles: I guarantee him shares at a price of 0.00061896 in the amount his balance on account will allow
thestringpuller: he will likely just assign those shares to me at said price
smickles: that way, if the price skyrockets, thestringpuller doesn't lose out just 'cause he can't ident right now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00061337 = 13.5555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4178 @ 0.00062313 = 2.6034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3819 @ 0.00348764 = 13.3193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 224865 @ 0.00369 = 829.7519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 160576 @ 0.003695 = 593.3283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10740 @ 0.0037 = 39.738 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Dec 17 06:25:38 <mircea_popescu> lol i guess everyone can now book the 3 / 34 gain
jurov: *cue mothership docking clip*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061791 = 2.67 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14679 @ 0.00061819 = 9.0744 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I gotta say... I am feeling really fucking good about my S.DICE holdings
jurov: fucking good? so.. better than sex?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061354 = 2.6511 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1070 @ 0.00061337 = 0.6563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3659 @ 0.00061233 = 2.2405 BTC [-]
Doffx: Yay, I got my Sdice pass-through shares claimed on Bitfunder. Now if I could just sell them on mpex
smickles: < Bugpowder> I gotta say... I am feeling really fucking good about my S.DICE holdings << I gotta say... I'm feeling really fucking good about mistyping a command and buying 50btc of S.DICE a while ago
smickles: that said, I hope to never transpose the price and the amount on a command again
jurov: Doffx, deadterra insinuated this is possible, ask him directly
jurov: oh you already claimed them
Doffx: Yeah, was I not supposed to>
smickles: can you prove that you control an address for me :)
Bugpowder: from the acitivity in the first 16days alone
smickles: heh, yeah, I'm sure some people are preparing to short after divs are paid
iz: what's the current block number for the bitcoin blockchain?
gribble: Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
iz: ;;help bc,sincelastblock
gribble: Time since last block: 1 day, 6 hours, 8 minutes, and 11 seconds
gribble: Error: "bc,lastblock" is not a valid command.
iz: i'm questioning the validity of the bot's data
gribble: Error: "bc,count" is not a valid command.
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 34 seconds
smickles: iz: i've never seen the bc,lastblock but ;;tslb seems to work
Doffx: Ill have to see if Deadterra can still buy those shares
iz: the timestamp is 2012-12-16 13:04:49 in UTC and my computer says today is Mon Dec 17 18:10:04 UTC 2012
iz: smickles: is tslb really working? or maybe that is broken
iz: okay, thank you mircea_popescu
iz: exactly the info i needed
smickles: iz: tslb seems to be in sync with blockchain and my local machine
mircea_popescu: Doffx i would imagine you can be delivered shares no ?
smickles: mircea_popescu: actually, it's 212553
smickles: even as of the time of your writing
Doffx: I have them on bitfunder now, I really have no clue what my options are.
gribble: Time since last block: 29 seconds
smickles: yeah, tslb works fine, it seems
mircea_popescu: you know smickles that icon really does make the bottle look like a dildo
Doffx: Oh cool someone bought some of my shares already
Doffx: Where is the bitfunder bot?
mircea_popescu: i guess someone will end up making a share transfer agreemend and end up unwinding most of the passthrough huh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00061817 = 0.0884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5725 @ 0.00061819 = 3.5391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00062348 = 4.7067 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3200 @ 0.00365174 = 11.6856 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00340932 = 10.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3592 @ 0.00340931 = 12.2462 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.00320001 = 160.0005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0032 = 16 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 208 @ 0.00180002 = 0.3744 BTC [-]
Doffx: Haha, I figured that might happen.
Bugpowder: actually, only 208 shares bot at .0018
jurov: Doffx, there's no such thing as bitfunder bot. deadterra decided to consider even coinbr as a competition
jurov: so they divided the "cake" between bitfunder and btct only
Doffx: Oh I was kidding around.
Doffx: What was this 10 BTC thing with Bitfunder?
Doffx: Said something about 10btc being split but I couldnt find info on what it was talking about
jurov: oh, hairs were been split aplenty
Doffx: I use Hashpower, and weexchange, and have talked to Ukto so I went with bitfunder.
Doffx: I already sold 100 shares woo!
Doffx: I don’t know anything about the other exchanges, I have not been keeping up with the bitcoin word these days.
Ukto: terra didn't formally announce it in the thread out of uh.. fairness? to the other exchange
Ukto: but allowed me to notice ppl on it at teh claims page
smickles: alright, time to put in a low bid on s.dice
Ukto: Doffx: once things are settled and terra says go, 10btc will be split out amongst the BF claimers (claim data is maintained)
Ukto: so the fewer shreholders pick BF, the moreyou get :P
Doffx: Haha, id rather more picked it, id give them my share to make it more succesful.
Doffx: I think you understud my meaning.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0023177 = 2.7812 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6000 @ 0.00282866 = 16.972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061297 = 2.6486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00061276 = 10.5088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26679 @ 0.00061233 = 16.3364 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm now facinated by the differences in option valuation between mpoebot and the one i've written
smickles: mircea_popescu: no, it's subtle
smickles: it's why I asked about the volatility last night, the calc of that could be the difference
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I'm here. Ahhh it feels good to type on a real keyboard. So many more WPM's
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006232 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062343 = 2.6938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00062348 = 1.626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 200 @ 0.09066871 = 18.1337 BTC [-]
smickles: d'ya'll think people are shorting s.dice on this double spend news?
thestringpuller: okay so as we talked about with physically delivery of futures, I started analyzing the possibility of physical delivery for procurement. Since BTC volume is so low it would end up being procurement for local stores and not full fledged chains.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 525 @ 0.12333198 = 64.7493 BTC [-]
smickles: C13 ?!! C12! where's my C14! :P
mircea_popescu: someone should make a top of the weirdest trades on mpex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061266 = 2.6473 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061256 = 2.6469 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7062 @ 0.00061233 = 4.3243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4396 @ 0.00061184 = 2.6896 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the sdice for 18 is not quite as big as the idiff.jun for 0.03
jurov: yes it was VERY yummy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15513 @ 0.0037 = 57.3981 BTC [+]
jurov: dunno who put it there, but i'd get gay with them
smickles: i'm not sure that an individual can have too much money to benefit by more
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, what diff does it make if it's chains or stores ?
smickles: large amounts should just shift their timescales beyond their own expected lifetime
thestringpuller: most people who would want end-user procurement of a commodities contract would be someone likely to distribute to a small coffee shop
thestringpuller: on market price as long as they could sustain end user prices in the coffee shops and bakeries
mircea_popescu: what makes you think that most buyers of the future would buy to have it delivered ?
smickles: there is a lot of markup to eat into on coffee
thestringpuller: but I suppose if someone who had a future that matured and had a distribution network may want delivery
thestringpuller: but I'm more talking about being able to purchase commodites at a market price via btc
mircea_popescu: what sense does it make to have a centralised spot market when nobody can take centralised delivery ?
mircea_popescu: spot markets evolved historically and make sense in conjunction with a delivery spot.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7849 @ 0.0037 = 29.0413 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "define" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: oh in that case would delivery in BTC be slightly decentralized due to it's internet nature?
jurov: oh and i *swear* i saw X.IDIFF.SEP selling for 2 satoshi, but once i got ahold of my coinbr acct, it vanished
mircea_popescu: which isn't a bad thing, but it doesn't make sense to lump it all under a generic name
thestringpuller: the example I mulled around in my head was a case where MPEX would have a listing for something like Cocoa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006232 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: that listing would correlate to any number of suppliers that constitute a BTC union
thestringpuller: so there would be likely 2 factors in pricing: geographical location of the supplier (i.e. freight) and 2. the base price the supplier is offering on his commodities
mircea_popescu: which is what makes this slightly inadequate for a spot-type exchange traded thing
thestringpuller: in a spot exchange the supplier delivers to the exchange no?
thestringpuller: i feel like chicago has a lot of train yards and people deal with it there
thestringpuller: which seem to be influenced by the location of the exchange
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00351473 / 0.0037 (1526236 shares, 5,364.31 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340547 / 0.0037 (6468105 shares, 22,026.96 BTC)
thestringpuller: yes but in since volume will start low on MPEX vs the 1000's of farms that sell on CME
smickles: ;;sell 1 S.DICE @ 0.2 "%/day" Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average
gribble: #12371 Mon Dec 17 11:18:07 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 S.DICE @ 0.2 %/day (Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average)
thestringpuller: thus someone in istaanbuul can sell columbian coffee to spoiled americans
mircea_popescu: that's not really tyhe point. the point is that if you're decentralizing the clearing house why are you centralizing price formation
mircea_popescu: cause cocoa for (instanbul to budapest) is different from price in (cote d'ivoire to atlanta)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00062348 = 5.3308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00062348 = 2.0887 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i don't understand how price formation is centralized if it is primarily influenced by the supplier?
jurov: if they had 500 mpoe-pr's ? why not
thestringpuller: but what would be the physical trade floor is a computer terminal connected to the internet
smickles: ;;sell 1 S.MPOE @ 0.2 "%/day" Lending S.MPOE at .2% per day based on the 1day average
jurov: thestringpuller, why should someone in the California (if coffee would be grown there) have the same price as someone in Nepal?
smickles: mircea_popescu: someone taking my deal with s.dice could've already made a bunch of btc
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller let's get it this other way : there's 20 geographically distinct markets. in one of them there's a shortage. that guy goes and buys moar cocoa. drives price up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00062345 = 11.8456 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: people in 19 markets pay more cause some douche peed in his cocoa stores.
smickles: mircea_popescu: the sell at .0037, buy at .0018, ruturn the shares
smickles: (that's just the optimal example)\
smickles: thestringpuller: client privledge
mircea_popescu: it's more likely to findsome btc in the park lying on the ground.
smickles: mircea_popescu: would it be profitable if they did the sell at 35 buy at 32?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00062348 = 20.6372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062586 = 2.3783 BTC [+]
smickles: like I said, the 37/18 was just the optimal situation. (something that all those elliot wavers seem to forget)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i feel like your example is indicating arbitrage is built in
thestringpuller: like with spot exchanges (like CME I guess), wouldn't one supply shortage result in some trader doing argritrage?
mircea_popescu: arbitrage is meaningless if you can't close the cycle.
thestringpuller: so if there is a shortage in one location, then wouldn't he have to transport it from a farther location?
thestringpuller: i feel as though new trading strategies would arise due to this
EskimoBob: lol at this cocoa price bs. Over 4 mil tons of cocoa gets produced per year
dub: EskimoBob: yeah but every american consumes 4 mil tonnes of chocolate per annum
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3996 @ 0.00273502 = 10.9291 BTC [-]
dub: on thunderchunk in the fatobar system
thestringpuller: so mircea_popescu if I can prevent a geogrpahical shortage in one location from affecting the entire market, the main issue you see will be solved?
EskimoBob: over here it's 6 mil tons and it goes straight to ass
mircea_popescu: no thestringpuller. the main issue is that a single price is meaningless for a fragmented set of random submarkets.
jcpham: shit kurweil works at google now
mircea_popescu: maybe a composite, maybe just a simple auction-type site
EskimoBob: you guys have talked about this for days now. Let me ask this: what is this added value you offer for clients?
kakobreklaa: 20:33.46 ( @gribble ) markedathome was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 33 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <markedathome> mcorlett: i'll help test if it is needed within the next 4 hours
Ukto: at least I admit it
thestringpuller: Well mircea_popescu if you are willing to believe in me, I will pull it off.
mircea_popescu: hehe. one of the advantages of starting slow, you catch these things before they do damage
mircea_popescu: "Does anyone actually think MPEX is worth $8.4 Million USD? Seems WAY overvalued to me (like 1-2 orders of magnitude)."
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006088 / 0.00062618 / 0.0006361 (2450793 shares, 1,534.65 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053193 / 0.00063995 (100441234 shares, 53,428.11 BTC)
mircea_popescu: i love the shock people get when they discover that... wait!!!! while we knew better and ignoed gpg and didn't user irc and etc stuff was happening!
EskimoBob: and look, he has no need for a hysterical sociopath cunt, to represent him :)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.24012, Best ask: 13.24013, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.24012, 24 hour volume: 77060.65520210, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.49800, 24 hour vwap: 13.20606
jcpham: at least mpex isn't named magic the gathering online exchange
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: make it hundred billion
EskimoBob: looks bigger and more important :P
jcpham: i'm not going to click the link, but you guys feel free to verbally describe it to me
Doffx: I wouldnt call it sex, but there us nudity.
Doffx: is* you should check it out.
jcpham: i can't work for .001 hourly
jcpham: i'll never eat with those wages
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well what is the safe zone for right now is 5-6% no?
jcpham: did you just come on to me
thestringpuller: thanks for the discussion on that idea mircea_popescu, much appreciated. I guess we'll talk again soon.
Ukto: well.. as long as he doesnt cum onto you, your prolly safe
Ukto: just dont goto Romania :P
mircea_popescu: Doffx i like how her tattoos seem to be drowning on her
Doffx: I would have thought you mostly liked the bag in her hand :P
dub: Look at how btct.co, litecoinglobal.com, bitfunder.com, cryptostocks.com and so on get their clients. Learn something. Evolve, for fuck sake!
dub: EskimoBob: would that be the, relying on your customers to be retarded method?
mircea_popescu: beingtall on the short bus has the advantage you don't sniff aanyone's farts.
smickles: where I went to school, the short bus had the intelegent peeps on it, social welfare allowed the large busses to be taken up by the 'short bus' peeps
dub: the only short bus reference I am aware of is that movie with lots of gay sex in it
dub: is there some other meaning?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062553 = 2.5334 BTC [-]
Ukto: seemed like a waste to keep re-creating assets
jurov: we did not found a sane way how to cram it into one asset
Ukto: since theres a month of fundraising
mircea_popescu: a sio this way it can trade/invest/trade/invest sorta thing ?
Ukto: 1 month of fundraising, then it buys bond, a month of trading
mircea_popescu: jurov prolly need some verbiage abouty what if 100btc aren't raised.
Ukto: we thought you would cover the shortfall
smickles: mircea_popescu: hell ya i can spell :D
jurov: haha, no i'm sure there will be someone interested around #otc to provide few tens of btcs or so
mircea_popescu: i don't have any more money, i bought the bitfunder passthrough to cryptostocks shares investing in s.mpoe
jurov: and we will cover something ourselves
Ukto: how are the murder laws in Romania nowdays? :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00062553 = 0.1695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18179 @ 0.00062586 = 11.3775 BTC [+]
Ukto: I has stack of 200 now... >,>
Ukto: Did you see the dividend reinvestment stuff on BF?
Doffx: Well after the dust has settled it looks like I made quite a bit from the passthrough
mircea_popescu: so it should take 1.9%. for many months through variance it was more like 1%
mircea_popescu: it is after all perfectly possible it just jumps to 3% for a few months...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062576 = 2.7039 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1321 @ 0.00062586 = 0.8268 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062711 = 2.5084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20346 @ 0.00062767 = 12.7706 BTC [+]
jurov: hahaha, mpoe-pr endorses us :P
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: A stock can be made of a composite of price non?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2370 @ 0.00062767 = 1.4876 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16167 @ 0.00062836 = 10.1587 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6963 @ 0.00063252 = 4.4042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062365 = 2.6948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2252 @ 0.00062345 = 1.404 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12827 @ 0.00062181 = 7.976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00357565 / 0.0037 (981811 shares, 3,510.62 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340505 / 0.0037 (6472101 shares, 22,037.89 BTC)
dub: kinda ripping off the 007 bond on glbse
dub: just he james bond word play aspect
thestringpuller: is there a way to return the ask bid and last price on a stock?
thestringpuller: smickles: how long will you ve offering the lending deal on S.DICE
EskimoBob: dub: when did you become mircea_popescu sock puppet? LOL
dub: EskimoBob: someone needs to offset your frothy mouthed table thumping
Ukto: i have been pretty busy all morning
Ukto: havent even had a chance
thestringpuller: Ukto: if you find it and it is workig ehat is your price for all 3
Doffx: Hell, its much worse than burning.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062189 = 2.6872 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00062181 = 7.3243 BTC [-]
Ukto: thestringpuller: sure.
dub: EskimoBob: at some point I recall enjoying the odd diatribe you emmited but now you just seem to show up and blather incoherently in any thread containing a poster you dont approve of. You are basically ciuciu 2.0
dub: a table thumper is that person in the corporate world that operates by being overly forcefull, loud and petulant. They sometimes get results because other parties give in to their position because its easier to just make them go away but ultimately nobody wants to deal with them and they end up managed out of any position of relevance
jurov: EskimoBob, try to read that shit in "Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through" thread after yourself. really
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063105 = 2.7268 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1848 @ 0.00063129 = 1.1666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062571 = 2.7037 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.00062553 = 1.363 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: jurov: someone made a post after me you do not like?
jurov: no. you did and apprently forgot
EskimoBob: I see that angry "PR" joke blabbering something. Maybe you need to talk to her?
dub: WRT that quote about how these other 'exchanges' get their clients, seems to me that they are just mopping up the jizz left behind by nefario and the only clients they will get are those still convinced the GLBSE model works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063107 = 2.7269 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 887 @ 0.00063129 = 0.56 BTC [+]
dub: people willing to completely ignore teh probable illegality of it all or convinvced that thesse 'JUST FOR TESTING NOT A REAL EXCHANGE LOL' clauses in the tos will protect anyone
EskimoBob: i think they need to add a picture of a unicorn and PGP key. Then it will be OK?
jurov: not unicorn. mermaid
Ukto: cryptostocks changed their graphs
Ukto: to the same one I use
Ukto: they didnt pay tho :P
Ukto: and, didnt configure it fully
dub: the redeeming factor of MPEX is you actually have to at least have some significant motivation if not >0.1$ of a clue about finance to get a seat, it'll be hard to argue that the typical mom and pop retards fell into investing on it
Ukto: its misconfigured volume wise
EskimoBob: jurov: and maybe a questionable use of .us TLD helps and lets not forget some porn for spice. Then everything becomes legal
Ukto: when the volume seciton on their graphs group up trades, its displaying the lowerst volume count
dub: oh were back to porn, hi ciuciu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063094 = 2.7263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16865 @ 0.00063129 = 10.6467 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3064 @ 0.00063252 = 1.938 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Ukto: it's probably good to cut of the huge spikes so the regular stuff is still visible
Ukto: I was debating making it aler
EskimoBob: one huge trade renders the whole chart useless - what's the point
EskimoBob: taller? will not really help you if the difference is huge. It's just a waste of space
Ukto: oh, i just ment in general
Ukto: its too squat I think
mircea_popescu: <jurov> not unicorn. mermaid << dragon approves of this notion.
Ukto: I need to hide an esteregg on the site somewhere
Ukto: and pay ppl 100satoshi to find it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062563 = 2.7033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15229 @ 0.00062553 = 9.5262 BTC [-]
Ukto: I just came up with an interesting idea.. on how to use the rules for liars poker.. in an multi-player browser based isometric game....
Ukto: the stupid shit that comes to mind when your sleep deprived.
Ukto: spawned from unircorns and rainbows
mircea_popescu: ok, might as well make it public : re how many users mpex has : as per the monthly reports up until the end of nov it collected 2200 BTC in new user fees.
EskimoBob: 2 chart has mostly this chicken shit at the bottom, because few proportionally large trades
Ukto: EskimoBob: your saying done have it like the first chart, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062586 = 2.7043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1592 @ 0.00062553 = 0.9958 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: yes and no. This was just a illustration to show what happens to vol chart
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2594 @ 0.00062181 = 1.613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5666 @ 0.00061993 = 3.5125 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14427 @ 0.00061185 = 8.8272 BTC [-]
Doffx: How much did it collect in just Nov?
EskimoBob: if you cut off the unusual spikes, you get nice useful chart like the first one there
mircea_popescu: so basically "o, can i short it ???" "yes, smickles lends shares" "but can i short it without going into mpex".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.0037 = 4.255 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: no need to get all hysterical about it mircea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063225 = 2.732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2595 @ 0.00063252 = 1.6414 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00063307 = 12.1866 BTC [+]
jurov: haha so he was the one who suggested installing pimpex on server
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob srsly ? here i sit on a humongous pile of bitcoins and you think you'll somehow manage to engage me in random interwebs dickery ? as if we're both equals, ramen fed nobodies floating abot ?
PsychoticBoy: dont be egocentric mircea, You are not THE bitcoinman
mircea_popescu: depends whose. rich people show each other's wallets all the time.
thestringpuller: old guys walk aroubd shameless in locker rooms all the time
PsychoticBoy: btw most among us have more than enough bitcoins (and other assets/money) otherwise we could not sit around on IRC more than 8 hours a day
PsychoticBoy: work 8-10 hours a day, bitcoin related 8-10 hours a day hmmn when does a man sleep
PsychoticBoy: I have, can give you some good headaches overtime
PsychoticBoy: I still got a lot of ¨old¨ coins mined in 2010
jurov: kids, you need to know how to build things that *work* first
jurov: yea, i couldn't fathom putting out fires every time new asset is listed like someone
jurov: better throsing exception than acception a fractional number for a quantity
jurov: or even , god save us, negative one
PsychoticBoy: btw nice asset/passthrough you brought up on BitFunder jurov
jurov: ukto is a nice boy, it was worth it figuring something out
PsychoticBoy: I makes it more of an exchange, now you have mining, sdice and mpoe on Bitfunder
Ukto: mebbe i should shut it down now
Ukto: not trading 1mil btc/mo yet
jurov: shut it now when you still can.. when it grows sentient, nobody will be able to!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063219 = 2.7317 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00063228 = 1.0932 BTC [+]
jurov: mpex is already sentient and we all see where it ends
Ukto: doesnt sound ver menacing
mircea_popescu: 1 for asshole, 1 for mouthole, 1 for urethrahole 1 for earhole
Ukto: you need tenticals with sub-tentical spikes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00063228 = 10.6539 BTC [+]
jurov: indeed. mpex is the Beast they have prophesied
jurov: maybe you have pic of it in some dark corner of /dtng/
dub: to use correct terms back and front bum
Ukto: also debating a horrid idea
Ukto: of adding ltc/nmc to weexchange
Lyspooner: what are the chances that there is a better coin than bitcoin that we haven't heard of yet
Ukto: i digure I can layer on like 50 altchains
jurov: Ukto, don't forget to make it as ugly as vircurex was.. I miss it
jcpham: they gave away "pay what you can" cards a few weeks ago
dub: wat about peepee coin
jcpham: did i just see shitting dick nipples
PsychoticBoy: I make my own bitcoin fork called PsychoCoin, 5 min a block, 50 coins and a difficulty change every week
jcpham: i'll need a drink first
jcpham: ;;google "shitting dpples"
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: when you pull that usb key out of your ass, where you keep that "big pile of bitcoins" you sit on, sell half a coin and go get yourself something nice. You know, it's this time of the year. ;)
Ukto: LOL % of chart that looks like pac-man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063074 = 2.7254 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7529 @ 0.0006306 = 4.7478 BTC [-]
Ukto: "wikipedia is very important to us because without it we would not have known the exact volume of a dose of fresh boar sperm" ... cant we do without that?
PsychoticBoy: forget all altcoin, there is only 1 coin, Bitcoin
jcpham: ukto those guys are foul
jcpham: if when ordering you put in 0 dollars
jcpham: they told you to go fuck yourself
Ukto: on teh donation check
Ukto: the command says "for telling us how much boar sperm costs
jcpham: the term "boar sperm" conjures up images
dub: important information
Ukto: could you imagine.. working some place, accepting donation payments
Ukto: opening an envelope that says for providing the price of boar sperm?
dub: livestock sperm management is something important to all of us
dub: and is srs fucking bzns
dub: every sperm is in fact sacred
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063211 = 2.7313 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10435 @ 0.00063228 = 6.5978 BTC [+]
dub: my uncle is a champion inseminator
dub: the tech in that industry is fucking crazy
Ukto: can he inseminate PsychoticBoy?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1686 @ 0.00063228 = 1.066 BTC [+]
Ukto: 'but thought better of it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1064 @ 0.00063307 = 0.6736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.0006336 = 1.0454 BTC [+]
Ukto: and decieded to use it as a comment instead
dub: every dose of jizz is tracked, gpsed, monitored for temp, consistency, flavour etc
Ukto: gotta taste test it
jcpham: boar sperm tastes like bacon
kakobreklaa: mircea_popescu seems like folks here need jizz futures on mpex, how about it
dub: jizz trading is one of the oldest markets
jurov: coming right after K.KBRL
dub: and not just in the way you're thinking
kakobreklaa: yeah jizz future, that could be the first future with physical delivery on mpex
dub: certainly an untapped resource from bitcointalk
dub: you have an existing market of furious masturbators
smickles: < thestringpuller> smickles: how long will you ve offering the lending deal on S.DICE <<< I haven't put a time limit on it
jurov: smickles, and do you provide an api? my bot is interested
jurov: seriously. poor thing, finds itself in the wrong end of the book, bitching and moaning
jurov: if it could just short trade all would be jolly
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006088 / 0.00062639 / 0.0006361 (2557080 shares, 1,601.75 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.0005322 / 0.00063995 (100725071 shares, 53,606.21 BTC)
jurov: thestringpuller, don't tell me you did not notice its tracks in this very thread
smickles: jurov: I'm not even working on an api yet. Are you serious?
jurov: half serious... while i can lend to the bot myself, it trades small amounts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063089 = 2.7261 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4671 @ 0.0006306 = 2.9455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14066 @ 0.0006265 = 8.8123 BTC [-]
jurov: but it could be interesting elsewhere
smickles: jurov: i'm working on a options market maker right now. after that, i'll look into an automated share lender
gribble: (gpg info [--key|--address] <nick>) -- Returns the registration details of registered user <nick>. If '--key' option is given, interpret <nick> as a GPG key ID.
smickles: oh god damn, i'm taking this fail to a /q
mod6: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062674 = 2.7081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2179 @ 0.0006265 = 1.3651 BTC [-]
dub: boar sperm is why we eat bacon, sperm whale is why the sea is salty
smickles: yeah, pig is porcus in latin, not homo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063332 = 2.7366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.0006336 = 10.5178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6602 @ 0.00063463 = 4.1898 BTC [+]
dub: yeah I'll admit to not having first hand knowledge ehre
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063431 = 2.7409 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14602 @ 0.00063463 = 9.2669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6946 @ 0.00063463 = 4.4081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063531 = 4.0025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006361 = 1.2722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9732 @ 0.00063617 = 6.1912 BTC [+]
dub: I spend a considerable amount of time in the sea, we can just pretend teh myth is true
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.29000, Best ask: 13.29001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.29000, 24 hour volume: 72257.80506675, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.48500, 24 hour vwap: 13.19301
dub: thats a decent dip no?
mircea_popescu: and with that i bid you all a very good bowl of punch.
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00359628 / 0.0037 (877988 shares, 3,157.49 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00340582 / 0.0037 (6489978 shares, 22,103.71 BTC)
smickles: mircea_popescu: you missed my redux of a cause de garcsons
mircea_popescu: as in acausedesgarcons.com/ - Le blog gay des beaux garçons qui se mettent à nu ?
smickles: lol, you expect me to be able to spell french words? we're talking about me here :D
mircea_popescu: i get this feeling as if for many people bitcoin is pretty much the wtf gift that keeps on giving
smickles: well, i think that has to do with the fact that it's not 'established' yet
smickles: that establishment prolly having a lot to do with the volatility
smickles: hey! ya wanna know what my volatility mistake was earlier?
smickles: well, i wrote all the code myself, based off of theory
smickles: turns out i coded it for variance, not volatility!
smickles: a simple change in input for sigma to sigma² fixed it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28145 @ 0.00063171 = 17.7795 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so with the new inputs the differences from mpoe reduced or amplified ?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.07713857 = 77.1386 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.11328195 = 113.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.15615809 = 156.1581 BTC [+]
Ukto: whats the proper term.. for letting people "over bid" ? place total bids for more money/btc then they have ?
Ukto: I cant think of how to term it for some reason
mircea_popescu: it's nothing you should do w/o adequate capital on hand.
Ukto: Sigh, most people wont understand the question
Ukto: i'll have to spell out the question on the faq
Ukto: Q: Can I put up more total bids than BTC/Shares available? (Margining)
Ukto: That sound reasonable?
Ukto: just trying to write the question is a format the even dumb ppl can understand
Ukto: yeah, then you get ppl who wont undertsand it and still ask if they can overbid
Ukto: Remember, BF has the retard users too
mircea_popescu: Q: Can I put up bids adding up to more BTC than I have ? Can I sell shares I do not own ?
Ukto: kk, i got it covered
Ukto: Q: Does the site allow Margining?
Ukto: A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset.
Ukto: Q: Can I put up more total bids than BTC/Shares available (Margining)?
Ukto: A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset.
Ukto: Q: Can I place bids/asks adding up to more BTC/Shares than I have?
Ukto: A: No. Every bid reserves the total amount in either BTC or shares for that asset.
Ukto: I don't think it will be missed. :P
Ukto: If you are going to cater to retarded people, speak their language
Ukto: in as many forms as possible
Ukto: thats what I am working through
Ukto: alomst done with teh list
Ukto: about to post and let em know his wishes have been granted
Ukto: wasnt trying to call him dumb with teh faq questions
Ukto: was putting that in for others tho
Ukto: so i wont be missed
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, why are you keeping weex and bf separate ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, the forum delivers : "I destroyed my credit before i was 20. I need a fresh start. Bankruptcy attorneys in my area are telling me $800 for their service. I know i can do it myself for under $100 but i dont know what im doing."
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 1000 @ 0.15599534 = 155.9953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.11311101 = 113.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1000 @ 0.07697019 = 76.9702 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.17254855 = 0.8627 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 495 @ 0.18305995 = 90.6147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00063171 = 10.2021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062847 = 2.7156 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 462 @ 0.00062842 = 0.2903 BTC [-]
Ukto: Now.. to do jimmys request
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063149 = 2.7287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00063171 = 3.1522 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1639 @ 0.00063658 = 1.0434 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062871 = 2.7167 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00062842 = 8.0124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00062523 = 0.9691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2729 @ 0.0006216 = 1.6963 BTC [-]
maximian: mircea_popescu: mpex says it doesn't recognize my signature
maximian: yeah, but I just tried issuing a stat manually, and it failed
Namjies: I'll still finish this one. Might take ~1 week of work. Hopefully it will get better.
Namjies: Otherwise I'm sure I'll find a taker for the template.
maximian: mircea_popescu: I changed mpex_url, now it hangs when I run it. I tried issuing an order by following section 6 of the FAQ and pasted the clear signed message directly via the web interface, and it replies with "Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first."
gribble: Nick 'maximian', with hostmask 'maximian!~maximian@S01062cb05d389a4b.vc.shawcable.net', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: please ident or else send me an email signed with the respective key
maximian: could I just send you the clear signed STAT command I issued?
mircea_popescu: hm. listen, but you're not supposed to paste clearsigned stuff in there
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to clearsign it first, and then encrypt it with the exchange's key
maximian: yep, I pasted the encrypted version
mircea_popescu: email me somethign signed so i actually know it's you.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00368608 = 6.2663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4277 @ 0.00368848 = 15.7756 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20023 @ 0.003699 = 74.0651 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.003699 = 184.95 BTC [+]
gribble: Nick 'dub', with hostmask 'dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub', is identified as user dub, with GPG key id 110C3582E5C480CF, key fingerprint B2956C98270DCC89E2E94A17110C3582E5C480CF, and bitcoin address None
dub: I got around to registering
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062771 = 2.0714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062164 = 2.6861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6158 @ 0.0006216 = 3.8278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00061923 = 3.8213 BTC [-]
Namjies: clickable servers with specs inscribed for ordering
Namjies: I still need to make the specs styling.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5284 @ 0.00061923 = 3.272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28766 @ 0.00061649 = 17.734 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15603 @ 0.00063186 = 9.8589 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3047 @ 0.00061649 = 1.8784 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: stop reloading that portn page mircea_popescu and it will speed up the rest
mircea_popescu: no, actually, i think some scriptkiddie is trying his version of a dos. the server's been doing 1-1.5Gbps for the past hour
EskimoBob: did anyone receive the updated lists from James last night?
EskimoBob: too early to ask that probably, most are still sleeping over there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00063302 = 6.2669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063657 = 2.7506 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7145 @ 0.00063658 = 4.5484 BTC [+]
Ukto: A friend on skype msgd me saying he got a claim email, logged into the 'trash' account, withdrew, and ended up with a ?-0.000195 balance.
Ukto: looks like the now 'free withdraws' is charging accounts the bitcoin transaction fee.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40000 @ 0.003699 = 147.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INKG] 244 @ 0.06858952 = 16.7358 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061651 = 2.6639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20483 @ 0.00061649 = 12.6276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00061612 = 10.3816 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30003 @ 0.00061502 = 18.4524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00061483 = 9.0073 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00061242 = 8.5739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1572 @ 0.00061132 = 0.961 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00061129 = 8.2524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00061086 = 6.7195 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7098 @ 0.00061056 = 4.3338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00061011 = 1.6473 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12118 @ 0.00061003 = 7.3923 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00060983 = 20.3683 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00060981 = 7.8361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36978 @ 0.00060942 = 22.5351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00060923 = 13.6163 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8140 @ 0.00060923 = 4.9591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1391 @ 0.00060908 = 0.8472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17079 @ 0.00060901 = 10.4013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90312 @ 0.000609 = 55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10760 @ 0.0006088 = 6.5507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30457 @ 0.00060872 = 18.5398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2015 @ 0.00060866 = 1.2264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22317 @ 0.00060852 = 13.5803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00060846 = 13.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7071 @ 0.00060833 = 4.3015 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060833 = 0.6083 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14882 @ 0.00060832 = 9.053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00060826 = 16.423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9203 @ 0.00060799 = 5.5953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00060789 = 13.1304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00060758 = 10.7845 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00060758 = 17.0122 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00060716 = 7.8931 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20638 @ 0.00060716 = 12.5306 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11348 @ 0.00060692 = 6.8873 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00060666 = 19.5345 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30910 @ 0.00060665 = 18.7516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00060638 = 5.8819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00060626 = 15.7931 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00060618 = 11.0325 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00060612 = 10.9102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00060604 = 11.7875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00060599 = 17.7555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00060599 = 1.9295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10353 @ 0.00060578 = 6.2716 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00060543 = 0.9687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13125 @ 0.00060537 = 7.9455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00060513 = 18.638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4313 @ 0.00060482 = 2.6086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26694 @ 0.00060471 = 16.1421 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20182 @ 0.00060468 = 12.2037 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00060437 = 9.9419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00060405 = 10.3293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00060386 = 14.7644 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18703 @ 0.00060354 = 11.288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062202 = 2.6877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00062237 = 2.7876 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060376 = 2.6088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3297 @ 0.00060354 = 1.9899 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.0006034 = 13.1843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22482 @ 0.00060295 = 13.5555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00060291 = 7.1143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21398 @ 0.00060289 = 12.9006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00060286 = 2.2909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00060278 = 13.2913 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00060256 = 9.641 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.0006023 = 14.3347 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23201 @ 0.00060199 = 13.9668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00060164 = 9.5962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00060146 = 14.7658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00060081 = 11.4154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12830 @ 0.00060079 = 7.7081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00060052 = 5.4047 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00060029 = 22.1507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00060015 = 8.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00059957 = 2.5482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00059934 = 5.8136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.0005993 = 7.0717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15259 @ 0.000599 = 9.1401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00059899 = 4.3726 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00059807 = 4.635 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19336 @ 0.00059804 = 11.5637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00059792 = 1.8536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00059784 = 10.0138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00059782 = 13.451 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22370 @ 0.00059731 = 13.3618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0005972 = 15.8258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00059689 = 3.5217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00059656 = 11.0364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3256 @ 0.00059655 = 1.9424 BTC [-]
pigeons: someone taking profits to put into MPOE bonds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22444 @ 0.00059655 = 13.389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00059631 = 13.4766 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49100 @ 0.00059618 = 29.2724 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00059589 = 6.376 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00059566 = 6.1353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00059565 = 10.4239 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00059556 = 14.6508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00059541 = 17.9814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9034 @ 0.0005938 = 5.3644 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27509 @ 0.00059329 = 16.3208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00059328 = 6.9414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00059325 = 8.4242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00059201 = 1.776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00059081 = 11.9934 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00059055 = 11.7815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36009 @ 0.00059 = 21.2453 BTC [-]
pigeons: i would take profits, but what am i gonna buy?
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059 / 0.00061393 / 0.00063658 (3496257 shares, 2,146.48 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053446 / 0.00063995 (102053951 shares, 54,544.36 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.003699 = 11.282 BTC [+]
pigeons: its just mircea_popescu trading with himself to try and look bigger than bfl
pigeons: they are doing something with themself
pigeons: "won't ship before jan 14" so they are still on schedule when they dont ship then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00059 = 59 BTC [-]
pigeons: i made one to jurov which he promptly repaid and couldn't find any more
mircea_popescu: in a sense btc finance is locked down. too few worthy assets.
Ukto: I like that CoinBr.MPBPT fund on BitFunder. it looks like it will do good. >:P
jurov: haha, it promptly became >90% of bitfunder trade volume
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00059 = 13.7175 BTC [-]
jurov: hi mircea popescu, i'm checking your "bonds historical data" against my own spreadsheet
jurov: and Oct 12 ROI effective doesn't make sense to me
jurov: or is here anybody else who invested in october bonds?
jurov: *rereads october statement* indeed there was a loss and my spreadsheet lies :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00058989 = 2.9495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00058988 = 2.625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1233 @ 0.00058982 = 0.7272 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11469 @ 0.00059 = 6.7667 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: btc diff has dropped back to september level. Lets see, when the fear kicks in and stops the fall.
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 100 @ 0.21 = 21 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17707 @ 0.00059 = 10.4471 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00058983 = 5.8983 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 673 @ 0.00058982 = 0.3969 BTC [-]
jurov: what fear has to do with hashrate?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1150 @ 0.00363031 = 4.1749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00362384 = 5.7981 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller mod6 is working on an android app for mpex too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00058983 = 5.8983 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00058982 = 5.4263 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: lemme buy some trilemma credits real quick while you're around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2794 @ 0.00058982 = 1.648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00058844 = 4.358 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Lol "If you won't pay for nice things you can't have nice things because there can't be nice things."
jurov: thestringpuller, let's talk about the app later, i'm going afk for few hours now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00058844 = 5.5902 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.23689, Best ask: 13.24600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00911, Last trade: 13.24600, 24 hour volume: 29923.83800899, 24 hour low: 13.02386, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.26171
Ukto: already sold almost 250 shares of the MPBPT
Ukto: thestringpuller: havent had a chance, just added a depth chart to weex
Ukto: whats up with MPOE?
Ukto: mircea_popescu: 25btc
Ukto: so 1/5th in under 24hrs
Ukto: prolly came from that
Ukto: he broke his weex link
Ukto: deposited 1btc into BF
Ukto: it clearly told him it was not broken
Ukto: i watched in teh logs as he forced it :P
Ukto: then he sent in a ticket
thestringpuller: wouldn't I be guarenteed to be a bond holder if I put an interest of 1%
Ukto: "no deposit! not instant! you lied?!?"
Ukto: within 3 minutes I replied that it was fixed and his deposit was available
Ukto: and that his broken shit is fixed
Ukto: the weexchange merchant link
Ukto: you dont deposit/withdraw btc to BF
Ukto: you have to signupo for an account at weexchange :D
pigeons: you are the weex link. goodbye
Ukto: mircea_popescu: I am surprised as hell, no one has made a big deal out of having to sing up for weexchange
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5494 @ 0.00058844 = 3.2329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24854 @ 0.00058738 = 14.5987 BTC [-]
Ukto: ppl have asked if it was safe..
Ukto: but none have been mad
pigeons: and i want to murder the happy couple on the login page
Ukto: mircea_popescu: did you release some earlier? :P
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller people have had a lot of grief waiting with mpex lol
kakobreklaa: 16:18.30 ( Ukto ) you dont deposit/withdraw btc to BF
Ukto: pigeons: I have a slightly diff pic. same couple, diff pose. :P
Ukto: kakobreklaa: damn straight
Ukto: weex has had almost 100+ new signups in a week
Ukto: is that teh girl in the park or w/e?
mircea_popescu: it's one of the girls bending over. as girls are wont to do.
kakobreklaa: being silly to your users is nothing to brag about
Ukto: what is that blurred out thing next to her? a kid?
Ukto: i see it on some bottles now
pigeons: omg does cicicicicu know you have nekkid pictures?
kakobreklaa: mircea_popescu omfg why the fuck are the drinks censored
kakobreklaa: "you can watch pussy but you cant watch coke"
Ukto: thats what confused me
Ukto: oh man. I just realised both popular assets on BF rely on mpex :P
jcpham: especially those instant payouts
pigeons: ooh how about weex->mpex vendor link
Ukto: define mpex vender?
Ukto: I will be opening the merchatn api in jan/feb
jcpham: weex and hashpower get featured in that video
Ukto: pigeons: yeah, but what other sites?
jcpham: hurry and watch it before i mark it private again
pigeons: just say, "i will be opening the merchant api when bfl ships"
Ukto: This is a private video.
Ukto: pigeons: talk to the boss man over there
Ukto: jchysk: whos video si that?
Ukto: and why does it look like old 35mm film?
jcpham: didn't edit myself out enough
kakobreklaa: is shaking like a crack whore deprived of crack
jcpham: because it needs to look old because the music is old
Ukto: i dont even see an vol control on the video
jcpham: youtube pulled it because of coptright
Ukto: whos rights dfid you infringe on ?
Ukto: i can guess the song then
Ukto: based on all the $$'s
Ukto: yeah, you should def. add bitfunder :P
Ukto: I guess the russian is happy
Ukto: already spent his whole 1btc
Ukto: all but like 4k satoshi
Ukto: guess he wasnt from reddit :P
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00360924 / 0.0037 (984870 shares, 3,554.64 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00341118 / 0.0037 (6611778 shares, 22,553.98 BTC)
jcpham: i actually did all that to test the software
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00058971 = 2.5481 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18428 @ 0.00059 = 10.8725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2601 @ 0.00059017 = 1.535 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 18 minutes and 15 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00058998 = 2.5493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7808 @ 0.00059017 = 4.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28871 @ 0.00059079 = 17.0567 BTC [+]
Ukto: re: limo pic, her hand is super scary looking
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for the link. i actually like Spinner much better and I've been looking through some of their code - the schildbach has lost my btc at least 2x.
mod6: Spinner has been pretty great for me so far... and I've been looking through the code. Its using the BCCAPI which has some KeyManagement stuff in there.
mod6: I need to look into it more.
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 58 seconds
Doffx: Cool, made 20% return on my Sdice.
Doffx: Took longer than I wanted but im happy to come out ahead.
Doffx: No, on my passthrough
Ukto: did sdice just issue divs?
Ukto: Doffx: or do youmean from terras ?
Doffx: No mine all sold on bitfunder
Doffx: Divs for Sdice is like on the 5th or 4th of each month I thought
smickles: last night, i was dreaming that I needed to wake up for the s.dice divs
Ukto: your concentrating too much
mircea_popescu: ok so a guy paid for trilema credits two hours ago. i credited him. transaction still unconfirmed
smickles: Ukto: have you told kakobreklaa , is it going to be pulled into assbot ?
Ukto: smickles: he wunt do it
Ukto: cause twatter will done day end the api
Ukto: smickles: i made that format just so all he would have to do is swing the old glbse code to it :P
Ukto: apparently its too much work >:P~
Doffx: Its ok smickles I no longer own any.
kakobreklaa: twitter is no good, it eating trades even if the msgs are unique ( mircea_popescu made the complaint)
kakobreklaa: i already wrote new api for this shit that is made for just for it
Doffx: It will now be put in to my master plan investment
Ukto: i figured twatter just didnt like MP either :P
kakobreklaa: and i told this at least 3 times in the chan
smickles: kakobreklaa: i know, but something is infinitely better than nothing
Doffx: I am finally 15 BTC in the Green after all my equipment and investments
Ukto: I honestly dont care about twatter
Doffx: Christmas came early
smickles: mircea_popescu: did you check to see if you got double spent?
smickles: mircea_popescu: i mean to say that it would be interesting if you were double spent
Ukto: 4,200 of the g.sdice asset just traded on BF
pigeons: "Posting in this thread and coming up with opinions and ideas are stupid and just distract us from the real work we need to do.
pigeons: uhoh, he said my magic words though
pigeons: "We have posted many updates, always been transparent, never scammed anyone, and always have done what we say we will do. "
kakobreklaa: 18:12.02 ( Ukto ) 4,200 of the g.sdice asset just traded on BF < assbot de manual.
Ukto: i got like 13 things to get done today :P
Ukto: I have to now drop off some bday invites for the kids party @ school
Ukto: cause wife didnt send em
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> i got like 13 things to get done today :P << it is impolite to refer to women as "things"
Ukto: mircea_popescu: shh
Ukto: my wife might hear you
Ukto: can you unlock that video again?
Ukto: wanted to show Doffx :P
Doffx: I need a tutorial on wex
Ukto: just click 'use' on the box and point at weex
jcpham: i did a bad job editing my name out
Doffx: Haha Pink Floyd I love it aleady jcpham
thestringpuller: Some guy representing a firm came on the news shortly after the drop from nearly 700+ a share to 500 a share and said, "We have faith in AAPL, we have begun selling puts for the winter season"
thestringpuller: I do wonder Mr. Popescu, where is all that BTC going to end up?
Doffx: Its ok apple will Litigate themselves some more profit and all will be ok
Doffx: Great little vid jcpham
jcpham: except it has my nick in it in a few places
thestringpuller: it's a good theory though to dump profits from MPOE and put it into MBOR bonds given the statistics
thestringpuller: Also: "Icbit.se offers a BTC/USD future which I wouldn’t however recomend." Makes me lol
thestringpuller: I guess the way I see it, is broad spectrum MPEX is the only thing I haven't lost money on.
thestringpuller: trust and loyalty are hard things to build in a world with little regulation
thestringpuller: with the insurance geniuses, and welfare kids who think they are brilliant stock brokers...
thestringpuller: "I. MPOE a suferit ceea ce s-ar putea foarte bine sa fie insider trading." <- I'm more referring to.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4 @ 0.00059079 = 0.0024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00059227 = 1.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059964 = 2.591 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12829 @ 0.0005998 = 7.6948 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: It sound like someone who knew pirate was going to default, manipulated the options market...
thestringpuller: I've been reading your code review business idea article again
thestringpuller: I didn't realize it was specifically targeted to BTC based code projects.
thestringpuller: I guess it makes sense. For example the issue they found in Ukto's code on bitfunder
thestringpuller: the insurance side is where the real profitability comes in
mircea_popescu: it'd have saved the bitdaytrade investors 4k btc if they insisted on an audit
thestringpuller: or other security firms who do this for contracts worth millions
kakobreklaa: bitdaytrade would have never go out live if it would be a subject of code review
thestringpuller: gets audited by this company, its the willingness to ensure your audit?
thestringpuller: because my biggest fear is what if you don't catch that small bug
thestringpuller: you'd have to have thorough penetration testing before the audit is "approved"
mircea_popescu: the point of insurance is to mitigate disasters not to avoid them.
kakobreklaa: its not about making it unhackable, is about making it hard enough to do
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22870, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.12129, Last trade: 13.21656, 24 hour volume: 28522.62314613, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.26900
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I'm going to make a ticker app for MPEX when I go on vacation
pigeons: don't use the api, scraping ftw
kakobreklaa: if you are going to parse html do it with regex so its at least completley wrong
jcpham: scrape all content with sed
jcpham: one time i wrote some wget scripts to scrape the funny images from 8 differnet funny image sites
jcpham: the next morning i hat 400,000 funny jpgs
mircea_popescu: one time i made some wget scripts to fuck with technorati. the next morning i had the #1 spot.
[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]: one time, I made some shit up in an irc channel and bragged about it
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is mpex-vwap.php the only stat json that's publicly availabe
Ukto: [\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]: and the this one time, and band camp...
jcpham: it was a tuba, not a flute
Ukto: jchysk: thats movie 1 vs 2
Ukto: get your facts straight
mircea_popescu: dja have any idea when's the last time you said something ?
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mircea_popescu: Buy our FireSteels and you'll never worry about being able to start a fire.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: what about this link?
[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]: if you're stranded long enough that you run out of lighter fluid, you're probably gonna die anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11071 @ 0.0005998 = 6.6404 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7029 @ 0.00060014 = 4.2184 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so add your negligible yet soon to dissapear attempt in there.
thestringpuller: no one believes in EskimoBobs dream of creating a BTC-based art studio?
mircea_popescu: if bitcoins were backed by buckteeth fat girl butts...
pigeons: he suggests you let people who browse the bitcoin wiki know that they can get "art" for bitcoins
mircea_popescu: "The Real Skin All-American Whopper measures 7 inches with an insertable length of 5.5 inches, 1.25-1.5 inches in width and a circumference of 4.5-5 inches, and is realistically sculpted for the size, feel, and pleasure of the real thing."
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is lonely fuck who just stirs up shit. Do not take that delusional retard too seriously ;)
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mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> thestringpuller mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth-json.php
jcpham: i have not started a fire with my firesteel yet
jcpham: you scrape it and make sparks
jcpham: like a survival fire starter
jcpham: requires fibrous tender
jcpham: rubbiung sticks and blowing
thestringpuller: Usagi can fucking rant on the forums but not get me my fucking BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00060014 = 3.0307 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30001, Best ask: 13.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 13.30002, 24 hour volume: 28406.18807176, 24 hour low: 13.10250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.27054
gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 40 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11171 @ 0.00060014 = 6.7042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3829 @ 0.0006002 = 2.2982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.0006002 = 1.8006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059918 = 2.5891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00059883 = 7.4255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11895 @ 0.00059238 = 7.0464 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: shoulda used a Lorentzian instead of a Gaussian price movement model...
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder shoulda not been in a market where self-aggrandizing idiots put 5% of the m3 into ponzis
EskimoBob: fuuuuccckkk usagi is back and off the fkn meds. Not that shit again ... LOL
Bugpowder: Does Black-Scholes have a ponzi correction term?
Namjies: No, haven't received your claim from GLBSE yet.
thestringpuller: well I'll just go to my corner and continue reading about relativity then
EskimoBob: Namjies: James told me he sent out (or promised to send) a updated list and assured me that my name is on the list
EskimoBob: unless you are talking to someone else Namjies :)
Bugpowder: It's why 100-year black swan events happen every 8 years.
thestringpuller: I've learned more in this IRC channel than I ever did in public school
dub: I was looking at some property in a 100-year flood plain the other day, supposedly expected to flood every 3-5 years
thestringpuller: lol Bitcoin magazine charges 100 bucks for a 12 issue subscription?
mod6: (11:34) < thestringpuller> I've learned more in this IRC channel than I ever did in public school
EskimoBob: Vlad ripped the magazine off and it sounded like that wast the end
mod6: thestringpuller: I do actually need help. And for sure in the future there will be tons more to do.
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> lol Bitcoin magazine charges 100 bucks for a 12 issue subscription? <<< yes, they will deliver the 12th issue in 2044
mod6: well, i started a #BitOTTer channel for technical discussions.... but basically how this works is it doesn't persist anything at this time
mircea_popescu: a magazine is one of those pointless things whores employed by rich men fill their time with.
mod6: it connects to mpex (currently just over inet, tor ability is coming, probably in beta, tor works with perl version) and grabs all the JSON and parses it.
thestringpuller: like for instance I was reading in JSON from a server that had data on it
mod6: ahh, yeah, nothing with GSON. i tried to get my head wrapped around how to use it with android and the funky mpex json, but I couldn't make it work
mod6: i just muscled past it with my own solution
mod6: well, sort of.. i love to make it really nice and awesomesauce, but having it work is much better.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060018 = 2.5934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1929 @ 0.0006002 = 1.1578 BTC [+]
mod6: So in the future, I really hope to get to revise a lot of stuff that I've already learned on the alpha project... but its sort of too late to turn around.
thestringpuller: well if you want I can be your jr. dev, just assign me tickets and I"ll send you patches
mod6: I was talking about building BitOTTer as an android tool for mpex in march/april, but noone was really interested... until later, and then I really had to turn up the gas to try to catch up.
mod6: If you're really serious, I do have quite a bunch to do. It sounds like you know what's up.
thestringpuller: I'm a Java EE developer and spent a few years doing Android Dev
mod6: I can work out something in the form of small btc payments on a per-diem basis or something...
mod6: wow. even more awesome. well, you won't be forgotten if you help with this project in some way.
mod6: Right now i have a nuts-o day job, thats more like an everyhour job. I am looking forward to making 2013 the year I can leave that behind :D
mod6: thats great, this is all java, nothing too complicated really at all.
mod6: just had some problems with spongycastle/bouncycastle trying to get the KeyStore to work the way I wanted. I got SOOOOO close, but it was eating up too much time.
thestringpuller: in fact I don't think you can use traditional SSH keys on it
thestringpuller: hold on i spent weeks getting SSHd and SCP to run natively on my droid
thestringpuller: but you have to convert you DSA/RSA keys into dropbear format
mod6: lol, i just saw a picture of a kowala eating a guys face
thestringpuller: I assume pgp will be similar since the android keystore is a little weird
mod6: yeah, i had to get down to the nuts and bolts
mod6: i had to get the public key packet, secret key packet... extract the private key from the secrete key spec then create a x509 cert and construct that with the pub and priv keys.
mod6: only bitch of it is... once I pull the cert out on the other side, i can't get out the private key.
mod6: only the public key. the api is limited here.
mod6: yeah, i don't think it matters
iz: you shouldn't be storing priv keys on a pgp (or gpg) keystore
Namjies: EskimoBob: what's your email/bitcoin address for GLBSE? PM me. I'll check again but my last list was received some time ago.
iz: that's not how it's meant to work
iz: priv key remains private, public keys are on the keystore so you can look them up
mod6: at that level I was working with PGPPublicKey, PGPSecretKey and PGPPrivateKey and converting them to their native java analogues
iz: yeah, that sucks then
thestringpuller: iz: so for things that are "private" it stores them locally in a weird fucked up way
mod6: iz: yeah, i know, but im trying to come up with a clever way to store the users private key incase the device is stolen or hacked, you don't want to lose thatkey.
mircea_popescu: listening to you ppl talk im slowly realising apple is the new microsoft.
iz: encrypt it w/ a password
mod6: apple is pretty nuts, i'll convert to iOS someday if there is enough interest... but that'll be its own can of worms.
iz: well, if you loose your wallet, ppl can take your cash out too
mod6: iz: so in the mean time, I have a AES256 class that I wrote that will utilize AES and enc/dec the key... at least that way, its protected by the symmetric key
thestringpuller: mod6: one thing you an do is encrypt local data for the app
thestringpuller: each app runs under it's on PID, and UID, so no other app can access it
iz: mod6: yeah, that seems good enough for now... does android have DRM crap that you can hijack for that?
thestringpuller: iz: not DRM persay, but if you root your phone you can do an encrypted FS
mod6: iz: hm, I really wish! if they do, I'm missing it. I'm not super well versed in Android though, a lot of stuff is new to me here.
thestringpuller: but then you're limiting yourself to only "experienced" users
mod6: and what worries me, is like I was saying to mircea_popescu the other night. all these cell providers leave backdoors through the os to turn shit on/off or to steal your data/coins.
iz: yeah, i took a quick look and it seems like the android DRM is about playback restriction and doesn't really have a pub/priv key that is used
mod6: So... I'd like to put something in place thats non-native in a way I guess. Another layer to the onion so to speak.
mod6: thestringpuller: this maybe the way to go. i'll have to talk to you more about that. or do some searching there... need to see how that works out.
mod6: I see, you're just saying to enc all the files in the local dir?
thestringpuller: most people don't encrypt that shit but I don't see why you couldn't
mod6: Well, I could do that for sure. Infact, it started out that way, and then I was like, "why am i encrypting this public key..."
mod6: Good stuff man. Thanks to everyone for all your comments on this today.
thestringpuller: also it's nearly impossible for a rogue app to read from memory
thestringpuller: because essentially the only time the private key would be "exposed" is when it's in memory decrypting data
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.0006002 = 5.3718 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: but i feel you it is a pain not having a place to store the private key
mod6: yeah, it makes it tough. i was worried about this before the project got off the ground, and it didn't disappoint.
mod6: But... i'm pretty much past it, for now. I'm looking forward to getting it out here soon and then working on the beta.
thestringpuller: most bank apps are web based and connect to a webpage based ap
thestringpuller: i don't got much on there cause I just don't have anything to collaborate with I usually just keep everything local
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18776 @ 0.0006002 = 11.2694 BTC [+]
mod6: Thanks again for the help/comments guise. :)
jurov: thestringpuller, next time just look into live.coinbr.com sauce
jurov: it uses some secret mpex apis
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.0006002 = 6.4522 BTC [+]
dub: more flash crashes this patch than ever before
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059499 = 2.571 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18779 @ 0.00059474 = 11.1686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00059991 = 2.5922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6651 @ 0.0006002 = 3.9919 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9115 @ 0.0006002 = 5.4708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9335 @ 0.00060397 = 5.6381 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: sometimes you act way too much like my first girlfriend
smickles: i'm going to go have a smoke instead of continuing this list
mircea_popescu: i thought it was moar like, 1. you beat up on naked girls ; 2. you do magics with money ; 3. you're pretty fucking scary ; 4. you have the biggest beard i ever saw outside of like, a deceased patriarch
Ukto: anyone with a BF account happen to be awake?
Ukto: do you happen to have any orders placed atm?
Ukto: Just wanted to make sure ppl could see the 'my ask'/'my bid' and cancel button on the orders list
Ukto: pigeons: did you see the new depth graph? kinda crappy, but not bad for a first start
Ukto: gonna try to add that selector line like on the trading graph
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0036 = 6.12 BTC [+]
Ukto: 387 shares sold (0.1 value)
Ukto: so it COULD make it
Ukto: if anything get pretty close
Ukto: been aboud 140shares per day so far
Ukto: if it maintains, then yeah, should have enough
Ukto: ppl will be stepping away
Ukto: so it may not, hard to say
Ukto: the only real attention BF is getting, is the securities forum, and that reddit post jurov linked it in
mircea_popescu: kind of a hard sell for btc veterans. i imagine it must be attractive to new ppl.
Ukto: well, the bonds have a reasonably good history
Ukto: though a 2~4% gain, with the risk of that nasty looking possible-pirate month scares alot of ppl it seems
Ukto: thats the only complanit I have seen
Ukto: sat least ppl like it
mircea_popescu: otherwise the bonds do tend to collect about enough capital each time
Ukto: or choose it over other options
Ukto: the test with the sdice asset
mircea_popescu: originally people were putting like 2-3k in, cause it's what it used, then it had that 8k month i covered for
Ukto: is showing to be almost 4:1 now
mircea_popescu: recently it had that 40k month, i imagine it'll get filled close to that again
Ukto: yeah, too bad I didnt get any in for this month. ;)
Ukto: the ppl who chose bf
pigeons: 2 out of 3 dentists prefer glbse
Ukto: in shareholder counts. share counts, pffft, almost no comparison
Ukto: until he decides to go on a drive bomb run
Ukto: got the selector line now in teh depth graph
Ukto: what other graphing type info
Ukto: any use for a polar chart... mebbe a nifty pie?
Ukto: I woudl do OHLC & Candles... but as I said before.. its a 24hr market... seems that open/close is pointless data
mircea_popescu: someone seems to be usiong some sort of sql injection to replace item images
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00355763 = 12.4517 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 363 @ 0.0035 = 1.2705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063658 = 10.1853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006348 = 2.743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063453 = 3.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063623 = 2.7491 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00063658 = 0.1273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37477 @ 0.00063666 = 23.8601 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063467 = 2.7424 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20879 @ 0.00063453 = 13.2484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063477 = 2.7428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172 @ 0.00063453 = 0.1091 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8076 @ 0.000629 = 5.0798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00062922 = 0.6594 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The top 5 percent of households in Washington, D.C., made more than $500,000 on average last year, while the bottom 20 percent earned less than $9,500 - a ratio of 54 to 1.
mircea_popescu: take from the rich, take from the poor, give to yourself.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063633 = 2.7496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10079 @ 0.00063666 = 6.4169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00062922 = 2.0594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 728 @ 0.000629 = 0.4579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00062794 = 2.0088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006282 = 2.7145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.00062794 = 3.6427 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062679 = 4.8576 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2943 @ 0.00062428 = 1.8373 BTC [-]
pigeons: hmm dunno how that mpoe short will go
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00063163 = 2.6566 BTC [+]
jurov: pigeons, maybe you can try issue bonds on bitfunder :D
jurov: on the other note, it's interesting how quickly it recovered
EskimoBob: this is a simple fix to broken IPO market.
Ukto: working to fight javascript
Ukto: and its inability to do real math
Ukto: thats all easy stuff
Ukto: if he says otherwise
Ukto: I'll look at it late tonight, or over the weekend
Ukto: but the 'how to' do it is already written in my head. just gotta put it in :P
Ukto: and since you didnt post it in bf's thread, I dont feel the need to have to timestamp reply "Done!" :P
jurov: EskimoBob, I start to get impression these IPO "flaws" are completely in your head
Ukto: jurov: more shares have sold
Ukto: assuming final exams, and holiday dont hamper things
Ukto: should hit the minimal needed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2036 @ 0.00062428 = 1.271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062247 = 1.4628 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2664 @ 0.00062111 = 1.6546 BTC [-]
Ukto: which means next month should easily hit it
Ukto: assuming the bonds dont get eaten :P
jurov: for example users can resell the promotional MPBPT shares and thus make us sell less... but I don't believe it will be significant part nor give a shit about that.
jurov: Ukto, looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable
jurov: but anything can happen, ofc. some folks around have their doubts about mtgox ... and then all bets are off
pigeons: "looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062111 = 6.8943 BTC [-]
Ukto: what doubts about gox?
jurov: mtgox payout delays for some fiat currencies are going longer and longer
Ukto: for a year and a half
Ukto: pigeons: I dont want to know
jurov: i don't understand people who put up with that. some year ago my sepa transfer took 2weeks, so i told fuck you mtgox and never looked back.
Ukto: i updated the calc feature on BF
Ukto: if the total btc to buy is more than available, it turns red
Ukto: if teh share amount to sell is more than available, then btoh the amount and total fields turn red
Ukto: js is randomly bitching about the 7th and 8th decimal places tho
Ukto: 4 * 0.00000111 is fine.. but 4 * 0.00000011 = 4.4e-7
Ukto: even though its the same number of places on the output
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2136 @ 0.00062111 = 1.3267 BTC [-]
jurov: Ukto, can't you convert stuff to satoshi as first step and back as very last one?
EskimoBob: jurov: i have a feeling, you have never ever participated in any real life IPO and you are way outside of your area of competence. :)
Ukto: just an annoying pita
jurov: EskimoBob, that is not an argument. instead you could have directed your energy into explaining why the "flaws" are so serious to warrant such bitching ;)
EskimoBob: Ukto: wht do you even fuck around with decimals? Not a good idea in any financial system
jurov: cause if so many people resell instead of going long, that is imho bad price setting, or the stock is considered risky for long-term investment, etc.
EskimoBob: jurov: did you blink for too long when reading it? The "flaw" is described ;)
jurov: nothing that can be solved by forbidding to resell during IPO
Ukto: EskimoBob: just on the web display
EskimoBob: jurov: I guess you have to read up what IPO is for
Ukto: since people type decimal format into a price box
Ukto: you have to start from decimal
EskimoBob: Ukto: but you still do math in that "layer"?
Ukto: jurov: yes, turn the text price into satoshis, but when i go to divide bak to show it in decimal format, i still get 1e-7 & 1e-8
Ukto: i do the mat at the sataoshi level
Ukto: the issue is converting it back to decimal format for dispalying
EskimoBob: OK, i see, this is a display problem
Ukto: its javascript being shitty
jurov: Ok, I think there is some js formatting function, don't remember exactly
Ukto: i think I can do toFixed...
Ukto: thats what I just said
EskimoBob: / Example: toPrecision(2) when the number has 5 digits (3 before, 2 after)
EskimoBob: / It will round to the tens place expressed as an exponential
EskimoBob: result = num.toPrecision(2); // result will equal 5.6e+2
EskimoBob: / Example: toPrecision(4) when the number has 8 digits (4 before, 4 after)
Ukto: thats why I ended with tofixed
EskimoBob: result = num.toPrecision(4); // result will equal 5000
Ukto: EskimoBob: ive seen the apge :P
EskimoBob: is there a "round" or some crap like that for formatting the final number?
EskimoBob: function roundNumber(rnum, rlength) { // Arguments: number to round, number of decimal places
EskimoBob: var newnumber = Math.round(rnum * Math.pow(10, rlength)) / Math.pow(10, rlength);
Ukto: i think I will also put a light red background color in the text box
Ukto: just in case the red bold text isnt enough
Ukto: turns totals to red if insufficient funds or shares
Ukto: and changes the text box background color to a light red of the price, or share amount field thats in the wrong
evoorhees: everyone excited for Christmas? :)
Diablo-D3: who says thats mutually exclusive?
evoorhees: what do you mean, thestringpuller?
evoorhees: Mayan end of world comes first... it's on Friday
Diablo-D3: friday isnt end of the world, its just the end of being sober
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: it's not my code :)
evoorhees: thestringpuller: is this a good suprise or bad suprise?
jurov: thestringpuller is adding insta-doublespend function into his dice android client
evoorhees: how do you guys think SatoshiDice makes money? It just double spends all the money back to people ;)
evoorhees: won't be discovered until the whole thing collapses on the day of the mayan apocalypse
evoorhees: thestringpuller: do you know Ira, the developer of coinapult?
pigeons: hey goes by bearbones on here
Ukto: I was gonna poke terra but hes still off skype
EskimoBob: has anyone done business with ciuciu?
evoorhees: thestringpuller: well if you're actually doing something for coinapult I'd like to put you in touch with him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00061895 = 4.5183 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: evoorhees: lemme get prototype out and we can have meeting
thestringpuller: its inspired from a blogpost you wrote on bitinstant during the brazil conference.
jcpham: it was a slip, i swear ;p
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30711, Best ask: 13.38399, Bid-ask spread: 0.07688, Last trade: 13.30711, 24 hour volume: 24066.25823172, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.28970
EskimoBob: jcpham: there is plenty of twitchy asshats around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00061895 = 2.4139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00061742 = 0.247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061875 = 2.6736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00061891 = 1.5132 BTC [+]
smickles: good forenoon mircea_popescu :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061756 = 2.6685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7464 @ 0.00061742 = 4.6084 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, I too think it would be better to value based on the free float
mircea_popescu: if i sell you one acre out of a 10 acre plot of land would you propose the value of the plot is based on your acre ?
smickles: because of the control you _can_ exert on the price
smickles: I think that both forms of valuation are important
smickles: but considering that you own (and presumably won't sell) ~95% of shares, those 95% wouldn't be considered for a lot of market cap valuation purposes
mircea_popescu: but the presumption is false, which is why im writing. brb.
smickles: for example, the S&P 500 only considers free float market cap
smickles: one could consider the free float to be 50% of shares tho
chippewa: I'm Rodrigo with a new nick name
smickles: yeah, taking a strict definition, only 50% of shares are 'locked in'
smickles: I'm not aware of any institutional holders who would claim ownership and buy/neutral/sell position
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059079 / 0.00061942 / 0.00063666 (697023 shares, 431.75 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053538 / 0.00063995 (102520389 shares, 54,887.71 BTC)
smickles: ;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000 - 500000000)
smickles: ;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000)
smickles: so there you have free float market cap followed by implied valuation
smickles: (as best as I can figure from all available information)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1876 @ 0.00061891 = 1.1611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1374 @ 0.000619 = 0.8505 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: unless, of course, you have made a statemtent that you don't intend to ever sell some of that available 50% (the remaining 45% iirc)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061883 = 2.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.000619 = 2.9582 BTC [+]
smickles: oh, and mircea_popescu even considering the quality of the source (investopedia): "
smickles: "The free-float method is seen as a better way of calculating market capitalization because it provides a more accurate reflection of market movements."
smickles: lol, wtf is a 'satoshisecond'?
smickles: what is that 2weiX going on about anyway? 5% cut? 10% cut? do they not realize you essentiall have a 95% cut?
mircea_popescu: <smickles> because of the control you _can_ exert on the price <<< if I have 500k btc i CAN exert the same exact control on the price as if I had 1bn shares.
mircea_popescu: what difference does it make ? of course I have resources. so do others.
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: who told you he is rich?
mircea_popescu: by getting the biggest guns, aiming them well and sticking to it.
smickles: clearly, he made his monies as a blogger
mircea_popescu: smickles you know, it was driving the romanians insane cause romanian incomes are really small and i was making a ton with the blog
smickles: thestringpuller: see, now you are putting conditions on it
smickles: thestringpuller: we ought to free ourselves a bit more before we get too concerned about koreans
mircea_popescu: i ain't pissing for anyone else and neither am i freeing them.
smickles: dammit mircea_popescu be more subtle, the whole 'freeing ourselves a bit more' can go on indefinitely, we'd never actually get to the point of freeing koreans :P
smickles: what mindgames are you on about now?
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: search his website address and word spam :)
mircea_popescu: smickles but more's the point, were you aware of the sales plan for s.mpoe ?
mircea_popescu: for the record, that twitter is run by a webhost for whom I was providing a honeypot address.
smickles: mircea_popescu: the auction part, yeah, but since it changed, i've been unsure
thestringpuller: smickles: bob marley mang: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds"
pigeons: have no fear for atomic energy none of dem canna stoppa da time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061769 = 2.669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16186 @ 0.00061742 = 9.9936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4843 @ 0.0006151 = 2.9789 BTC [-]
jcpham: sorry i only skimmed the headline
mircea_popescu: I don't understand why people rag on mpex. They complain about btc related businesses getting compromised. They complain about bots manipulating the pricing and "fake" walls on mtgox. mpex doesn't have any of that crap and people bitch about it - I don't get it.
mircea_popescu: waaah, I want rounded corners and lots of slick js and css...
mircea_popescu: waaah, slick-xchange got 0day'd via cornerrounder.js and all the accounts are locked/stolen...
mircea_popescu: waaah, people who know nothing about security are creating btc websites and getting hacked...
mircea_popescu: waaah, mpex uses proven encryption but gpg is hard and the submit screen is plain...
mircea_popescu: waaah, bitcoin should be taken seriously as currency...
mircea_popescu: waaah, mpex is charging a fee for signup as if it was a real business but I want to slop 0.05 btc back and forth on options and 30 btc to open account is ridicuous....
mircea_popescu: ok, that guy made my day. how do you tip people on reddit ?
mircea_popescu: jesus this bitcoinstuff is ocmplex. anyone with the tipping set up want to send one for me ?
pigeons: i just learned EskimoBob doesn't have tourrette's ;)
smickles: mircea_popescu: you forgot the 'waaah, mpex regularly makes people hundreds of btc, but I think derivitives are evil for no good reason and I didn't take the time to understand that bond thingy, so i'm jelly'
mircea_popescu: smickles i was just quoting. i could make that list five meters long
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it makes pretty decent web stuff afaik. what can i tell ya.
mircea_popescu: noway. it says clearly on the return slips, i am the 94%
smickles: thestringpuller: damn man it's worse than one percent, mircea_popescu is the 5%!
smickles: hmm, I retract my occupy statment
smickles: at this rate, i'll soon be in opposition :P
smickles: er, nix that =, replace with a +
mircea_popescu: so basically that idiot ver just sunk blockchain.info ?
pigeons: he calls himself "bitcoin jesus". seriously.
jurov: nothing about eskimo. just that he despises IPOs with tiered pricing that enable trading, cause what if the first investors resell, blabla... he's funny
pigeons: its been edited a bit by now
smickles: i can be part of this occupy mpex for 29.06 more months
mircea_popescu: not only is he dishonest, but he wants to lie about it.
pigeons: my biggest problem is that he freaked out over 4 btc
pigeons: then its not so cool that he abused his pull with a seperate company to check on the dude's address
mircea_popescu: and i'm not terribly enchanted with piuk either, he won't list it but he sells stakes to random asshats ?
EskimoBob: LOL. jurov, you are still going on about IPO stuff? Did I hurt your feelings some how?
jurov: no, exactly opposite. i found it hilarious
EskimoBob: if you have questions, pleas ask but don't be a dick about it, acting all insulted and what not
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: are you going to add this to the drama timeline?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller don't really intend to update it, maybe make another dec 2013
EskimoBob: jurov: laughing is good. Helps you get over your problems
jurov: eskimobob, i wrote my pionts/questions to btctalk
jurov: and deprived said similar stuff right after that
mircea_popescu: so basically what's this, failed issuer manages to not sell anything and wants market controls to prop his dubious venture ?
mircea_popescu: pigeons ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131648.0
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: have you ever actually bought a single share of stock in a real ipo in real world?
mircea_popescu: iirc i published account screenshots showing decent holdings a while back. did you ?
Diablo-D3: you've said some questionable shit too
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob you know, most idiots in btc harp about how clueless i am.
EskimoBob: I do not have to. You do it yourself every fkn day, mp
jcpham: dmc mines exclusively on nvidia gpu's
Diablo-D3: jcpham: nope, Im using a giant POWER cluster now
smickles: thestringpuller: Bitcoin's value is backed by drama
jcpham: old jokes never get old
Diablo-D3: smickles: you know, I think you might actually be right
smickles: little did you know, Bitcoin was actually an invention of the entertainment industry
Diablo-D3: everytime Ive seen the price spike, theres been heavy drama in the forums
kakobrekla: they couldnt sell dvds no more, so they made bitcoin
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25807, Best ask: 13.33999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08192, Last trade: 13.25807, 24 hour volume: 26701.70585636, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.29278
smickles: gwaa, the AZ copr. comiss. should hurry up already
dub: wat, EskimoBob is paying dividends on his art mining with no art mining equipment backing it
dub: its a weed and lentils ponzi
Ukto: your ponzischeming?
PeterL: dub: You bring up a valid question, how is EskimoBob paying dividends if he is not making any profit yet?
mircea_popescu: PeterL because he bought one single share in a single irl ipo once.
smickles: will you not say 'valid question' validity is a property of arguments, not questions
mircea_popescu: validity is a property of questions as well, as it's a property of statements in general
jcpham: it's 35 minutes past noon
smickles: mircea_popescu: statements can contribute to validity if they are part of a valid argument :P
smickles: inb4 someone makes a scope argument
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, we're clearly disagreeing on founding principles :D
PeterL: they say the only bad questions are the ones you don't ask, so if he asked a question it must be valid, right?
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 13 seconds
mircea_popescu: PeterL don't take things too bad, people rib each other lots here.
PeterL: no, I was agreeing with you, I think
smickles: heh, yea, in fact, you could put me down by the fact that I was ribbing you with a flu flu philo position
pigeons: wait we don't really hate each other?
smickles: you know that's a sign of autism now?
dub: mircea_popescu, apparently running a mining bond without hardware to back it up is a scam, according to such experts as EskimoBob
PeterL: isn't a mining bond without mining equipment a scam?
pigeons: that's interesting, i thought it was just a natural manifestataion of the desire living things have to get high
dub: PeterL: if you say so
Ukto: I got a diff sit and spin when searching
PeterL: otherwise it would just be a ponzi?
mircea_popescu: PeterL i guess it would depend on what info is used to establish payouts. but in any case it would heavily depend on the issuer's credit.
dub: the infos to hand is that payouts are established from the pocket of EskimoBob
pigeons: honest question. is there a difference between from his pocket vs. from stock sales?
dub: another pertinent question would be where are teh lentils, weed, deodorising crystals for the hairy women etc getting funded from
dub: hippies don't grow on trees
pigeons: how do you know a hippie has been staying at your house?
PeterL: But if one is selling a "mining bond" without doing any ming, it would at least be dishones charaterization of what they are selling?
pigeons: PeterL: some people were selling the btc output of x mhash
mircea_popescu: PeterL well it could be a synthetic short deal, which'd be fine. "i'll pay youy whatever mining pays you defined as X Y Z"
PeterL: yeah, I guess it depends on how exactly the agreement is worded
dub: PeterL: there were a number of 1mh/s bonds issued on glbse that were not backed (at least not fully) by actual hardware, the wording was that the bondholder would recieve btc equal to the output of 1mh/s
PeterL: EskimoBob: are you using the term "girls" disparagingly? Seems kinda rude to 50% of the population?
pigeons: why do so many hippies move to Oregon?
pigeons: they heard there was no work there
PeterL: dub: The issue goes down to wether the investor is trying to just make money or increase the security of the network?
dub: PeterL: uh if the contract says you get the equiv of 1mh/s who cares how
EskimoBob: pigeons: and the weather is not too good over there
dub: PeterL: I'll asnwer that question for you, EskimoBob cared
pigeons: What kind of cigarettes do hippies smoke?
dub: which is why its funny that he is doing the same thing
EskimoBob: dub: how am I exactly "doing the same thing"
PeterL: EskimoBob: you are paying weekly dividends, yes?
dub: I wouldnt bother trying to actually explain it to him
PeterL: just checking to see if I have the correct facts ...
dub: I have to pay those form my own pocket for now. Obviously I can not nor do I plan to do this forever. Smiley
dub: This is why getting the coin together and ordering the equipment is really important. But hey, this is only the first week.
dub: first week of the ponzi is always the hardest
jcpham: i'd like to hear more of the story of clipse myself
jcpham: obviously he was gambling an entire pool's worth of coins
EskimoBob: it's probably good idea to post your questions to forum so I can answer them
jcpham: he ran a pool that paid higher than normal PPS
jcpham: he became more and more active on irc. until the end.
pigeons: he said he paid more cause hopping. then theh money ended up with pirate. then he was gone
jcpham: i think he paid more because he had it at btcst
jcpham: and that's the only reason he paid more
jcpham: because he could afford to
PeterL: oh pirate keeps coming back to bite everybody
jcpham: clipse talked a lot of shit about selling virgin wallet.dat's with solo mined coins
pigeons: he had a pony avatar, so i'm guessing youngun
iz: i think clipse lost a lot of money w/ the pirate thing
iz: or he was just a very angry opinionated guy
dub: someone doxxed clipse its in the forum somwhere
dub: Neill Roelofse, 27 and he lives in Cape Town, Bellville.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061874 = 2.6736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4379 @ 0.000619 = 2.7106 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: did james sent out the new list? (in few last days)
Ukto: this morning/last night
Ukto: he completed alot of peoples lists
Ukto: sounds like they were non-glbse-claims even
Ukto: no btc addy was supplied for the person I talked to
Ukto: ppl who didnt claim
Ukto: two ppl have told me the new list, NOT yaml file, buy csv this time
Ukto: no btc addys, just email and share count
EskimoBob: Ukto: OK, thanx. This is good news
mircea_popescu: Namjies, i got a btc with your name on it, what addy do you want it at ?
jcpham: i use telnet-tunnel for secure
EskimoBob: telnet? brr... do people still use that stuff?
pigeons: he just wanted to see some routes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061537 = 2.659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.0006151 = 5.523 BTC [-]
dub: theres plenty of stuff that only supports telnet
dub: its not like its over the internet
EskimoBob: rrr... this cifs-utils samba drama
Namjies: Eh fuck. ASICMINER has not resumed trading yet eh...
Namjies: Well send there please 1PRsPqFgWjdbbDywFXvVTvp2hUUbDnMzKX
dub: send what? some stolen bitcoinica coins? one sec
Ukto: dub: you admits it!
Ukto: Give it back! my preciousssss.....
Namjies: For about 1000 ASICMINER he wanted to short.
Namjies: But since it's not trading anymore...
Namjies: That might be it. I kind of let those go after GLBSE closed and forgot the number since then eh
mircea_popescu: pity glbse closed. i was making nice dough shorting bullcrap
dub: I had a few of those, whats happening with them?
dub: was kinda hoping they would win the asic race and I could sell them for 10btc each
Namjies: People apparently didn't like the 3d effect so I removed it.
Namjies: rg did release a statement, I believe
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47493, Best ask: 13.50799, Bid-ask spread: 0.03306, Last trade: 13.47493, 24 hour volume: 34702.98997692, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.33504
Namjies: Aye. I guess I'm not good enough yet at 3d effects
Namjies: Plus arij/phungus seems to like more simple designs.
Namjies: Instead, but I'm trying to make something more potent if possible. And actually unique and custom.
Namjies: I don't get 5 credits per week.
mircea_popescu: (the way it works tho, is you have 5 slots, and they expire in 7 days. so if you use all the same day you get 5 more in 7 days)
Namjies: Yes, I've been like 2 months without any credit every time I go on the blog
jurov: Namjies, do you have admin console for switzerland, or just jerking over the site design so far?
jurov: could not get enough time from james to upgrade the kernel, or fix ipv6 address
kakobrekla: members of rota should get free credits.
jurov: hush, kakobrekla. i shall submit the FSA stuff on venetfx to rota. just for lulz.
jcpham: yes, how is the rota coming along
Namjies: ask phungus/arij, I don't have access to servers yet.
Namjies: I'll be doing design/tickets/management tasks.
Lyspooner: any plans to list single-stock futures? imagine MPEX listing an option on MPEX that expires into MPEX shares
kakobrekla: jurov, go ahead, MP will just short it (the fsa)
jurov: kakobrekla, maybe rota will order FSA to register you promptly
jcpham: i'd like to say thanks and that these judges look impartial to me
jurov: or, on second thought, rota will ask fsa to UNregister you. so that you will stay completely outside of law as is proper in btcland.
mircea_popescu: i don't think fsa is advanced enough to have a pgp sign
kakobrekla: fsa has got nothing to do with bitcoin clients in the first place, it is as irrelevant as MNW's signature
pigeons: speaking of MNW's signature, remember, only you back bitcoins
jurov: Namjies, are these phungus/arij in irc somewhere?
jurov: bitvps client area cert just expired
pigeons: jurov: #bitvps #bitcoin-otc
Namjies: indeed, #bitvps channel would be where to find us.
dub: mircea_popescu: the judges sit for a year at a time?
dub: "disqualified for lack of proper form" heh
dub: sounds like, did not show adequate commitment
jcpham: i misspelled adjudicator in mine
jcpham: i can only imagine how bad the denied application was
dub: in the team america sense of showing commitment
jcpham: i hope no one ever has a dispute
dub: yeah, seems like a shitty job to me tbh
dub: but all power to those willing to do it
jcpham: i think the judges are more than reputable
jcpham: excluding me of course
dub: of course, you're just a cunt
dub: speaking of cunt, someone I work with drove into the carpark behind me today
dub: i am a whole buttload of raspberry jelly
jcpham: i have the 1996 version
Ukto: feel free to pay me. :P
jcpham: did i just get made fun of
jcpham: my supra predates pirate
Ukto: Undecided. Please check back later. :P
jcpham: it's as close as anybody will ever get
jcpham: i've only sat in one fr-s
dub: im waiting for the RC model to drop next year
dub: then I'll beg mrs dub to let me have one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 64558 @ 0.0036 = 232.4088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00364467 = 6.0137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8927 @ 0.003699 = 33.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 174865 @ 0.0036995 = 646.9131 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In India, for legal works, which has to be done by timely & correctly, we need to bribe 1000+ INR.
mircea_popescu: For illegal or other works, then maybe up to 10 times or more.
dub: possibly swap the engine from my corolla into it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250000 @ 0.0036995 = 924.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368019 / 0.0036995 (536763 shares, 1,975.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343144 / 0.0037 (7135181 shares, 24,483.96 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 25000 @ 0.0036995 = 92.4875 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: jcpham: Oh awesome.. are you the guy who was telling off that guy with the camera in your face, and then who clipped buddy with your car?
dub: midnightmagic: sounds like a video of coingenuity that was floating around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.0036995 = 425.4425 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: Whoever the poor guy is, he's sitting outside and he keeps repeating, "Fuck OFF jason, fuck OFF jason, jason FUCK OFF." Except I'm not sure "jason" is the right name I'm quoting.
EskimoBob: intersango closed the GBP trading down for good
EskimoBob: I guess if you can not send out GBP to bank accounts, it is pointless
EskimoBob: LOL, the comment following: Great, now close the rest of the site.
jcpham: that's not me midnightmagic
jcpham: or i don't think it is
jcpham: i want to see this video
EskimoBob: now all they need to do is rename it to "3 stooges" and be done with it
davout_: phantomcircuit said that people would be able to cash out with international wires with not-yet-known fees
EskimoBob: davout: did you see the SEPA transfer fee? it's 10 EUR! LOL, it actually cost only 0.36€
davout: EskimoBob: SEPA transfer fees vary depending on the bank
davout: EskimoBob: when bitcoin-central was still dealing with the fuckers at the Rietumu bank it was a whopping 15€
davout: anyway, it all sounds fucked up
EskimoBob: so, we have 6026 shares of ART left for now
EskimoBob: what, you guys are not happy for me? :)
mod6: jurov does brokerage
Anduck: do you wanna be ma broker for S.DICE?
dub: midnightmagic: thats coingenuity afaik
Anduck: and how much Azelphur takes as fee?
Anduck: cuz i would prefer Azelphur cuz he's here and i like him
Azelphur: I don't do brokerage, so try the others first
Anduck: how much ya take fee for s.dice brokerage?
smickles: it seems to be the cheapest on the market
smickles: no fees other than that commission on buys/sells
smickles: and I give .1% apy on btc balances
Anduck: smickles: are you trusted?
Anduck: i don't really remember - sorry
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com . User smickles, rated since Wed Jan 4 18:28:52 2012. Cumulative rating 78, from 48 total ratings. Received ratings: 47 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 47 positive, 5 negative. Details:
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jcpham: anduck don't let gribble fool you
dub: Azelphur: you should pop my rating cherry
gribble: You have not yet rated user dub
gribble: You rated user jcpham on Thu Aug 16 09:11:10 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: None.
gribble: You rated user smickles on Wed Aug 15 10:56:42 2012, giving him a rating of 5, and supplied these additional notes: Top notch community member..
Azelphur: ;;rate dub 1 Asked me to pop his rating cherry
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
jcpham: smickles if we've rated each other, does that mean we are in collusion?
Azelphur: dub: how do you not have a rating after all this time
gribble: You have not yet rated user dub
jcpham: i think i have ratings for pigeons also
dub: ;;rate Azelphur fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC
gribble: Error: 'fulfilled' is not a valid integer.
dub: ;;rate Azelphur 1 fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Azelphur has been recorded.
dub: Azelphur: I only regged yesterday
jcpham: ;;rate dub 1 wastes much time on irc
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
pigeons: i imagine you'll be hearing from the investor
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
EskimoBob: I guess so. Guy placed like 290+ BTC
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub . User dub, rated since Wed Dec 19 14:09:17 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dub dub: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 owns MPEX, hasnt stolen my BTC
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu . User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu dub: the first person not to steal my btc?
gribble: Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@84.245.71.31', is not identified.
jurov: need to do business?
pigeons: more fun to not auth and see what happens
pigeons: now we watch EskimoBob crash the price of litecoin as he cashes out to buy his equipment
jcpham: if litecoin price crashes, does anyone really lose?
jcpham: i keep hearing about it
jcpham: i think there is an exchange
mircea_popescu: i must confess, of all drama sources for this wednesday the last thing i was expecting was r.ver going berserk.
mircea_popescu: btc drama has much in common with spanish inquisition.
EskimoBob: pigeons: :) I have to do this really carefully. No hurry or this will get ugly :)
gigavps: or as he calls himself, "bitcoin jesus"
jcpham: bitcoin jesus like historical jesus
jcpham: or bitcoin jesus water into wine
pigeons: "I'm Roger Ver, the most prolific Bitcoin investor the world has ever seen"
jcpham: all of us are like historical jesus
gigavps: well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot
jcpham: i didn't get to see the spasm
jcpham: so he actually used those words
pigeons: no he actually spelled most as "post"
gigavps: he's a little full of himself after that comment
jcpham: gigavps are you taking roger's money?
gigavps: coinlab is paying me 25% moar for the next three weeks
jcpham: i think i have like 6 left
gigavps: he was part of the $500k round
jcpham: that's crazy over 4btc
pigeons: so the big thing now is that blockchain.info had previously claimed that links from "anonymous" addresses were not logged
pigeons: yet there was an admin interface to look this up
jcpham: oopsie, forgot to tell ya'll about that. we have to spport people
Bugpowder: damn. buyer didnt cut into the S.DICE Tier 3.
Bugpowder: just the the market buy through and we are gonna be at .005
mircea_popescu: <gigavps> well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot << i think btcppl don't get enoug hsleep.
Bugpowder: In a liquid market, price will drop the value of the dividend payment.
jurov: eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service
Bugpowder: some people will sell right before the divvy to maximize thier sale price
Bugpowder: some will be buying right after on the dip
Bugpowder: someone will make more money than the other person
Bugpowder: but in an efficient market, it will drop divvy value
pigeons: less bubblicious than mpoe
Bugpowder: everything hinges on if S.DICE can keep up the betting volume
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder it doesn't make so much sense to drop div value seeing how this is a btc sort of company. no assets.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i never saw a bubble consisting of price movement from 32 to 37.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu I disagree, market prices in the value.
Bugpowder: S.DICE was slowing down until the whales showed up
mircea_popescu: ya i think it was trading more on momentum/inferred momentum than anything
mircea_popescu: ahaha digging through old posts, 2 Aprilie 2012 One website offering Bitcoin options trading was ‘listed’ this month for an implied valuation of half a million dollars. Sursa : Reuters.
jurov: hmm...in fact i remember coinbr getting some funding from similat whale-ish addy
smickles: < jurov> eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service << mwahahah
Bugpowder: There is still a lot of time left before div payment and trading volume tends to increase prior to payment.
jcpham: yeah i had to close that blockahin link
jcpham: i hope that's a lucky bot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061898 = 2.6746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.000619 = 2.3392 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i kinda rue the day one of these whales discovers what reverse martingale is and tears sdice a new one.
jurov: in other news, it looks like s.mpoe trades thinned to a trickle
dub: I think this roger ver business is grounds for a round of panic selling anyway
gribble: Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43403, Best ask: 13.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.06096, Last trade: 13.49499, 24 hour volume: 34245.99274865, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37071
pigeons: i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin
gribble: Error: "tickle" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin << werd.
dub: most prolific bitcoin masturbator throws toys, SELL WHILE YOU CAN
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if im the only btc investor that gets laid.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13887 @ 0.000619 = 8.5961 BTC [+]
jcpham: is whether or not giga is a scammer based solely on the GIGAMINING asset or some other event?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you already know whats going on there
Diablo-D3: nefario thinks he can win in court by not giving giga the info or the btc
dub: bitcoin, its democratastic
Diablo-D3: seriously, 3M has been after me for my chest hair, its the most abrasive shit ever
dub: what would be the point?
dub: the only reason to sue in rota is if the other pary has a reputation to lose
dub: nefario will need a new identity to get anyone other than amir to trust him
jurov: well,in fact i tried to inflict upon Ukto the agreement that if violated, shall be judger by rota
jurov: but he said he forgot pgp passphrase :/
gribble: Nick 'Ukto', with hostmask 'Ukto!~Kami-Sama@99-30-79-193.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
jurov: no that is not fully correct. in fact he first said that his software has no clearsign function
jurov: he uses kleopatra on windows or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000619 = 1.9598 BTC [+]
pigeons: ;rate Ukto -1 he uses kleopatra on windows or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4784 @ 0.00061999 = 2.966 BTC [+]
jcpham: sue me in romanian court and pay for my plane ticket
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0036 = 18 BTC [-]
jcpham: like romancing the stone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00061999 = 11.1598 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu, why messing with tickets. just put a reward on jcpham. dead or alive
jurov: (for court, he's better alive i guess)
mircea_popescu: "bring one jcpham impaled on an 68 inch sperm whale cock, preferably alive. reward 11 btc"
Diablo-D3: the BFLS and BFLS.RIG tickers are inaba's
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128556 @ 0.00061999 = 79.7034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484344 @ 0.00062 = 920.2933 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and he started them BEFORE he was hired by BFL
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, honestly, he should
Diablo-D3: yeah, he should just shove a fair ratio down their throats
pigeons: someone asked me if there was bfl or if it was all a scheme by inaba
pigeons: i know some folks who have visited the shop and met everyone
Diablo-D3: bfls and bfls.rigs represented the same ratio of ownership of their hardware
Diablo-D3: I forget what it was, but it was like 1/200th of a single or a rig respectively
mircea_popescu: pigeons o that actully happened ? i thought it was just planed
Diablo-D3: and singles into rigs is a integer number
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00062222 / 0.00063666 (2141211 shares, 1,332.30 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053683 / 0.00063995 (104071550 shares, 55,869.67 BTC)
Diablo-D3: so you CAN figure out how much ownership a share of BFLS is on rigs
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368484 / 0.0036995 (671563 shares, 2,474.60 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343671 / 0.0037 (7280181 shares, 25,019.89 BTC)
mircea_popescu: this is like,... the first time ever something trades moar in a day than s.mpoe i think
pigeons: no not yochdog, but folks have been there more than once and gotten the tour, talked to everyone etc
Diablo-D3: pigeons: people who I dont trust, however
mircea_popescu: pays in a month the sort of divs fiat corps pay in 5 years
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49452, Best ask: 13.51990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02538, Last trade: 13.52000, 24 hour volume: 34243.77923978, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37348
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: whats the equiv APY on that
pigeons: i am sure the people i am talking about aren't lying. that doesn't mean these people aren't being scammed by bfl
Diablo-D3: like, friedcat is going to send me a board for evaluation and DM dev
Diablo-D3: we'll know in 5 seconds flat if its the real deal or not
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 if you put in 3200 to buy 1% of S.DICE at ipo you now have ~3684.84 btc worth of shares + 139.42 btc worth of dividends, for a total gain of 624.26
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: how many days ago was IPO?
mircea_popescu: and well... she was bad pr and they were bad investors. win-win.
mircea_popescu: but all the action recently is prolly due to the ~15k they're making this month
mircea_popescu: which adds another 150 btc to that equation, taking total net to 770ish
assbot: [MPEX] [X.AWHG] 134 @ 0.06165072 = 8.2612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 45 @ 0.25573768 = 11.5082 BTC [-]
jurov: btw, how X.IDIFF.DEC settled?
gribble: Error: "difficulty" is not a valid command.
pigeons: Ukto: offer to settle X.IDIFF via hashpower.com
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.60000, Best ask: 13.60061, Bid-ask spread: 0.00061, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 38724.18251965, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39880
assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.07995 / 0.07995 / 0.07995 (20 shares, 1.60 BTC)
smickles: and at a better price than mpoebot
Bugpowder: don't want to get locked out of my account
smickles: and I don't have a bot running yet either
mircea_popescu: I know there was some trading going on, but the volume was almost non-existent, as most people held on to the shares. Regardless of what may have happened on the exchange, the shares were never meant to be a trading stock and for all intents and purposes, I used GLBSE as a glorified excel spreadsheet to handle the distribution of the mined funds in a fast, easy manner. From the volume, I think most people agreed with
mircea_popescu: "Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours. "
pigeons: "Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours."
mircea_popescu: is it like... a curse ? someone set them up da voodoo ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062 = 7.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00062 = 1.829 BTC [+]
Anduck: what does it matter is it real or fake??
mircea_popescu: people have lately gotten in this habit of claiming any large round tit is the result of surgery.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062 = 4.619 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7738 @ 0.00062 = 4.7976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00062 = 8.184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13153 @ 0.00062 = 8.1549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00062 = 6.5608 BTC [+]
dub: ;;rate jcpham 1 drives a Toyota
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jcpham has been recorded.
EskimoBob: yawn... nice weather we have today! -15 and windchill -24
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00062 = 8.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8220 @ 0.00062 = 5.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4738 @ 0.00062 = 2.9376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.0006195 = 4.1705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7874 @ 0.00061946 = 4.8776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12512 @ 0.00061935 = 7.7493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00061925 = 1.2075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00061903 = 7.0879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0006189 = 1.671 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00061887 = 4.4559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00061849 = 2.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061837 = 4.2049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061793 = 2.9043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12132 @ 0.00061767 = 7.4936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6422 @ 0.00062 = 3.9816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350838 = 3.5084 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00062 = 6.1678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00351012 = 1.053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5802 @ 0.00062 = 3.5972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.00062 = 4.8174 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2118 @ 0.00062 = 1.3132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6731 @ 0.00062 = 4.1732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00062 = 6.107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15946 @ 0.00062 = 9.8865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10913 @ 0.00062 = 6.7661 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062 = 3.038 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5531 @ 0.00062 = 3.4292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00062 = 7.688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37086 @ 0.00062 = 22.9933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00350838 = 2.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00062 = 9.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368607 / 0.0036995 (658562 shares, 2,427.51 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343695 / 0.0037 (7293593 shares, 25,067.73 BTC)
thestringpuller: smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: are you waiting for sdice to pass some serious gas and keel over?
Ukto: pigeons: Can I get your opinion
Ukto: on the changes I made?
Ukto: i changed the ordering buy/sell boxes
Ukto: and added some quick fill buttons
Ukto: and some highlighting
Ukto: to remind you before hitting the button
pigeons: yes i didn't like the reverse order
pigeons: hey it looks fine to me. but i just press buttons
Ukto: I was able to save some screen space by shrinking them down
Ukto: think its less confusing saying Max Cost, and Min Earned ?
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: It's not going to kill over but it's a mini bubble atm
Ukto: Did you know that firefox.. has a 3d view for webpages?
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: did you sell some or are you just planning?
Ukto: i have alwayas used firebug 0,o
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: if people start eating into the .0037 ipo then I will
thestringpuller: Ukto: but now I hate you because you are using too much CSS and javascript
Ukto: did you even have one to start with ?
Ukto: I have been using a crap ton of in-line css
Ukto: so I gave up on the css sheets
thestringpuller: why do people want to make their stock exchanges so pretty?
EskimoBob: Ukto: why those buttons on trade history page? (SELL)
Ukto: EskimoBob: click em
Ukto: the are jus pretty markers
Ukto: and its obviously confusing
Ukto: so I will be changing it out
Ukto: less than 1 btc since it lanched
thestringpuller: you could be usin' that time to collect yo money elsewhere
Ukto: thats what this is all about
Ukto: I'll go look in just a few, how about that
Ukto: no more giving me shiz :P
Ukto: and you wear a BF badge :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Ukto:What if switch assetlist and market in the menu
EskimoBob: I rather see the market data first
Ukto: EskimoBob: the sub-nav is diff for logged in/not
Ukto: the blue is pretty hard on the eyes
Ukto: compared to the easy to read blue letters below
Ukto: they are within a twitch of a space of click
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062 = 10.54 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: this is called "porno blue" for some historical reason. Actually all the 256 palette colors are :)
thestringpuller: i think the btc community uses more bootstrap than anyone else lol
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: no, if you believe anything that lunatic PR baba says, then everyone is a complete retard in btc world, except her of course
thestringpuller: I don't care about anything that goes on in the forums tbh
EskimoBob: or is there any other PR-jokes around?
EskimoBob: OK, time to get ready for the meeting.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00062 = 5.332 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44569, Best ask: 13.52978, Bid-ask spread: 0.08409, Last trade: 13.44569, 24 hour volume: 48118.47436117, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.45404
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00062 = 3.751 BTC [+]
Ukto: thestringpuller: you recognize the char in the avatar?
Ukto: thats a character from an old anime
Ukto: first time I ever used it
Ukto: was digging through some files from a real old computer, came accross a scan of an animation cel I have, and used that
Ukto: cleaned it up a bit, remove dhte background
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00062 = 7.13 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: 6 hours later I finally solve my LaTeX formatting issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
pigeons: i know they dont have those in romania, hence no startups
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu you should just take down the mpex front end site
thestringpuller: and say, "you bitches complained too much about Web 2.0, now you shits get nothing. Good luck"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00062 = 6.293 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: are girls under 18 illegal to exist or illegal to be naked in your jurisdiction ?
jcpham: it's actually 19 in my state
thestringpuller: in high school this girl put pictures of herself on the internet to piss off her ex
jcpham: we protect them for an extra year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062 = 1.178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00061987 / 0.00062 (2624777 shares, 1,627.03 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053765 / 0.00063995 (104594132 shares, 56,235.22 BTC)
thestringpuller: I'm trying to see your correlation between DWAVE and the ASICS market
thestringpuller: Sarcasm on the internet is like being sarcastic to an autistic child for me
thestringpuller: I remember reading about this a few years back when I was getting into HPC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2640 @ 0.00062 = 1.6368 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "It is actually much worse than the imbeciles attempting to convince the world they have a working quantum computer, as at least some of the quantum computing community laughs at them in public."
jcpham: Our current superconducting 128-qubit processor chip is housed inside a cryogenics system within a 10 square meter shielded room. If you are interested in finding out if this quantum computing system meet your needs please contact us for more information: sales@dwavesys.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: note the same bad grammar as is par for "asic" "companies".
jcpham: just need a 10 suare meter shielded room
jcpham: and you can hack the planet, i mean blockchain
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is Ver so high on your shitlist now that Bitinstant and Friends are blacklisted too?
mircea_popescu: he's not particularly high on my list, he did something stupid and got thrashed for it, apologized, hopefuly got the lesson
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: remember our discussion about the composite Cocoa trading
iz: jcpham: also, it's not 128 qubits entangled with each other, it's like.. clusters of 4 (or 8 or some smaller grouping)
iz: that work in parallel
jcpham: it seems like i read the announcement on that company a month or so back
jcpham: and the technical discussion was basically like " it isn't a quantum computer"
iz: yeah, a while ago they made news when lockheed bought one of their things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4210 @ 0.00062 = 2.6102 BTC [+]
jcpham: i have issues with my words being picked apart by clowns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4807 @ 0.00062 = 2.9803 BTC [+]
jcpham: or i can just read and practice restraint
jcpham: i don't actually have to contribute to absorb it all
jcpham: i think sequencing is now like 98% accurate
jcpham: i thought i read the other day how they took sperm plus egg from different hosts
jcpham: and sequenced 98% of baby
Bugpowder: what have they synthesized that has folded properly
Bugpowder: but you get a yield of 98% per step
Bugpowder: the right sequence can auto-fold in the right environment
Bugpowder: but synthesizing a 300AA string with any yield is not so easy
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062 = 3.937 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: the research spawned from that paper of what I'm talking about
Bugpowder: First red flag "The Media Laboratory
Bugpowder: Worked at the media lab as an undergrad
Anduck: sorry i cant open links atm
Anduck: what possible uses are there for that?
Bugpowder: The maestro looks like a nice tool for screening new genetically encoded indicators
mircea_popescu: ahahah so EskimoBob is really an estonian undergrad with some bs archeology programme ?
mircea_popescu: lmao on the interwebs all the dogs don't know they're dogs anymore.
Bugpowder: There aren't that many cool applications for these arrays in a dish though. the brain isn't flat
Bugpowder: and brain slices are dying and have no connections to other areas
Bugpowder: the most interesting stuff you can do with the MEAs is studying retina
Bugpowder: This company makes some useful stuff.
Bugpowder: you can record from many sites in the awake behaving brain
Bugpowder: I have used them and also done some custom design work in house
Bugpowder: hence, not optimistic about ASIC delivery windows
Bugpowder: just getting the probes off the chip and flat took over a year of refinement
Bugpowder: balancing the stress levels of each layer
Bugpowder: not sure if that would be an issue with commerical ASICs though
Bugpowder: There is a new project that is going to do much more advanced probes with a $5M budget
Bugpowder: collab between several funding agencys
Anduck: or well they can but in the end, nah
Anduck: it's totally possible to make an asic
Anduck: but might take time if there isnt some very good hw makers making one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00062 = 5.952 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: if you have the funding, you can get it done, eventually
mircea_popescu: the ideal situation would have been for 2-3-4 companies coming to market within weeks
Anduck: afaik there are some stuff current btc-asic makers are fighting
mircea_popescu: that is not going to happen with the sort of muppets doing it
Anduck: there will be none in a month
Anduck: they dont even have the chips
mircea_popescu: Anduck i meant within weeks of each other, not within weeks of now
Anduck: almost missed this train cuz of traffic
Anduck: ill be bach in a sec to talk bout asics n stuff
thestringpuller: we spend too much time robbing each other why not just rob a really rich person
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00062 = 3.255 BTC [+]
jurov: thestringpuller, was it you who bitched about some rich friends that can't be convinced to go btc and instead smoke weed?
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -13.2747973704 % based on data since last change | -15.1045589685 % based on data for last three days
gribble: Current Blocks: 212920 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 775 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 29 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2922796.99440957 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.2747973704
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how do we get 1bn into BTC besides robbing someone? this is taking too long
mircea_popescu: just, rich person puts a wall on mtgox, 5mn btc demanded at 200
mircea_popescu: that's the end of it, btc will never be under 3-400 after that.
jurov: Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the kitchen table : "i swear to god this soup makes me blush"
thestringpuller: the 1bn foundation (rich people give us your money so we can make a bidwall, promising 50% ROI)
Ukto: jurov: do they get enough readers?
Ukto: btctalk or elsewhere
jurov: Ukto i got several times more visits from reddit than btctalk
jurov: well, i still don't know exactly what is ukto asking about
jurov: just thrown in some observation for coinbr
Ukto: [10:45] <jurov> Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?
smickles: < thestringpuller> smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid<<< indeed
Ukto: I was just responding asking its worth it
jurov: Ukto I was talking about the link you posted
jurov: it smell like request forgery or whatever it's called
Ukto: stupid forums linkerary
Ukto: there, last line of his post :)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i meant in the "o, what will they think what will they say will they agree" sense.
Anduck: whatcha guess, when will the first one be ready?
Anduck: remember, they need to make asics, put them on a board and program the whole thing for it
mircea_popescu: Anduck im pretty sure asics will be delivered by a company
thestringpuller: the design needs to be done before announcement time and the fabrication needs to be happening before a ship date is even conceived
thestringpuller: BFL let their PR get out of hand and they are probably blowing money on expensive cars and shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6428 @ 0.00062 = 3.9854 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00351012 = 2.8292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00351012 = 0.8565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00353878 = 2.8523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1394 @ 0.00353878 = 4.9331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 376 @ 0.00355273 = 1.3358 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00355273 = 0.0213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062 = 7.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00062 = 8.68 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: he rants about how 3/4 of their "10 bn" was made by airbnb and some other shit site
Diablo-D3: I have discovered the most wrong thing on youtube ever
Anduck: i had some BFL-FAIL shares of yours
Diablo-D3: nefario hasnt published the goddamned fucking list yet
Diablo-D3: the fucking 30 some BTC is sitting right here waiting to go
Anduck: he did tell me how much i had shares
Anduck: they published the list atleast of some shares, right?
Anduck: i just asked nefario if i happened to have some shares
Anduck: i had forgot i had ASICMINER
Diablo-D3: a lot of people won. a LOT of people lost, and they didnt even own success shares
Anduck: i only thought i have a little BFL-fail and BITVPS
Diablo-D3: re asicminer, friedcat is just going to launch his own exchange
Anduck: do u have any ASICMINER shars
mod6: (09:33) < thestringpuller> nickserv
Anduck: do u have any BFL, DD3?
Anduck: thestringpuller are you the puppet master?
Diablo-D3: Anduck: NO ONE HAS ANY BFL, DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Anduck: Diablo-D3: happy christmas man!
Anduck: thestringpuller: aight
mod6: thestringpuller: just workin.
mod6: actually, im about to run out and see if I can get my new phone.
mod6: i hate the cell companies. vzw are a bunch of savages.
mod6: anyway, wish me luck. bbs :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15792 @ 0.00062 = 9.791 BTC [+]
smickles: It’s trading at 27 now, and the only way it ever touches IPO levels is through the continued good orifices of Fairy Godmother Bernanke.
mircea_popescu: used to like graham 10 years ago, but by now he sounds like a stuffed manequin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00062 = 2.108 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I had almost totally blown up my account
Bugpowder: was down to $500 in front month puts in RIMM
Bugpowder: then they dropped about $20 a day for three days in a row
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062 = 5.89 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Somehow I lost all my money shorting the market with front month options in 2007 and 2008
mircea_popescu: but i literally did not have enough capital to go as short on rimm as i wanted.
mircea_popescu: 5 dollar 140 and 12 dollar 145 puts was much nicer than 4:1 margin on stock
smickles: mircea_popescu: so how many S.MPOE are floating around the market now, I see that therea are a little under 50mn for sale right now
mircea_popescu: smickles well the last announcement in nov i had 958mn iirc ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062 = 5.549 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I would just read Denninger's blog and be like, must buy puts on CFC, Downey
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: thoroughly mind numbing idiocy working its way towards the sitcom
mircea_popescu: your sitcom can be either of two things : funny or successful.
mircea_popescu: if you mean fun in the sense of submissive women you'd be better off doing porn than daytime tv.
thestringpuller: the funny thing about that clip is start up businesses really do that when they get their initial funding...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12853 @ 0.00062 = 7.9689 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: they hire a basketball player to sit around and shoot hoops all day
thestringpuller: you could create the same system locally using a an NFS share along with a few scripts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062 = 3.41 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it gradually but graciously allows that market to use it.
mircea_popescu: Google used to give me a page of the right answers, fast, with no clutter. Now the results seem inspired by the Scientologist principle that what's true is what's true for you. And the pages don't have the clean, sparse feel they used to. Google search results used to look like the output of a Unix utility. Now if I accidentally put the cursor in the wrong place, anything might happen.
mircea_popescu: The way to win here is to build the search engine all the hackers use. A search engine whose users consisted of the top 10,000 hackers and no one else would be in a very powerful position despite its small size, just as Google was when it was that search engine.
mircea_popescu: me being here, a few others being here is what supports btc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 319 @ 0.00350838 = 1.1192 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: possibly. succes is always the sound of the cool kids club going to shit.
mircea_popescu: and it's inevitable in the sense all decay is inevitable
mircea_popescu: so if you really want success, just make cool kids clubs.
mircea_popescu: they'd better be REAL cool as opposed to the play=pretend, circle-jerk, self-granted cool any backwater town kids bestow upon each other for lack of alternatives.
thestringpuller: heh, I'm a scientist I would rather see money in the hands of people like Bugpowder
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 106 @ 0.0035 = 0.371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 894 @ 0.00349819 = 3.1274 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062 = 1.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062 = 2.604 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062 = 5.828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00062 = 6.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
Ukto: so I knew it was comming
iz: what ever happened w/ pirate and btcst? did anyone ever sue him or whatever?
mod6: i thought mircea_popescu was just fucking with you all
iz: haha, wait.. no.. not really? really?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062 = 2.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2036 @ 0.00350019 = 7.1264 BTC [+]
mod6: (13:07) < mircea_popescu> o so pirate paid ?
mod6: I thought this was a total joke. ^^^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35095 @ 0.00062 = 21.7589 BTC [+]
mod6: so he paid up with all the account holders? everyone still got screwed via the bonds though.
mod6: YESTERDAY, ALL MY BTC SEEMED SO FAR AWAY
mod6: NOW IT LOOKS AS THOUGH PIRATE PAID
mod6: SO I BELIEVE IN YESTERDAY
mod6: (that last part was a joke - I never gave pirate or btc&st anything)
EskimoBob: LOL, looks like the bitcointalk retards have opened a comedy club
EskimoBob: I was laughing so hard that I had tears in my eyes. At least they are entertaining
mod6: Yes, good deal thestringpuller. Hmm.. I gotta check and see if I can squeeze in like an hour here... one sec.
mod6: haha. im usually around, but yeah.
mod6: I can take an hour after the next 50 minutes. I gotta prepare a bit for this IBM call I've got at 4.
mod6: does that work? otherwise sometime later tonight is fine too.
mod6: lets see... it would be 16:00 EST
mod6: that I'm availble, i have my call at 16:00 CDT
mod6: No sweat, i'll come back here in a bit and try to find ya.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52003, Best ask: 13.60699, Bid-ask spread: 0.08696, Last trade: 13.52003, 24 hour volume: 34745.59293995, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.51611
dub: so pirate paid back, ewxpect a big sell off, time to get in first before teh panic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00062 = 14.043 BTC [+]
dub: I want my $10 xmas bitcoins goddamit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: you have no idea. I was just reading what The Augustocroppo was writing. I mean, this guy.... fuuuuck :)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24678951 = 246.7895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]
Ukto: what exactly, are you about?
smickles: does mpexagent return an ordernumber when it places an order on mpex?
jurov: no, it would have to create one
jurov: you have to call statjson and match the order later
smickles: how do you associate mpexagent orders with their mpex counterparts to cancel them when desired?
smickles: thestringpuller: yes, I take it that I didn't notify you of that?
smickles: jurov: I was hoping that you had it all in one simpe function which i could draw inspiration from :|
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7896 @ 0.00062 = 4.8955 BTC [+]
jurov: that code is not in mpexagent, it's cinbr secret sauce
smickles: can I see it an buy it off of you if it fits my needs?
smickles: thestringpuller: i've made hundreds of btc off of similar things
smickles: meh, I know what I need to do, the fee for copy/pasting most of it seems too high to me jurov ;)
smickles: thestringpuller: a while ago I wrote an elliot wave based multiexchange+bitcoinica trade bot
smickles: it was worth a lot to some people
smickles: and the guy selling it for me sold a bunch more copies than he told me about, so I could've made a lot more too :/
jurov: well, maybe you'll come back in 2 months, with foul cries about quantum order waveforms
Ukto: jurov: your supposed to compile it, and sell recurring licensing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
smickles: jurov: I promised only 6 months of support
jurov: no, seriously. we can make an agreement, but i won't release it cheapy
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> whoa buying code <<< MPEx has built an ecosystem
jurov: * will raise fee to 10BTC/hr for consulting then
smickles: jurov: I just want the one part that fetches an order number from a recently placed order, I don't think that's worth 99btc
smickles: it's probably better for me to write it myself anyway
jurov: but that's actually largest part of it
smickles: 'cause i'd have to adapt your code to my bot
smickles: mircea_popescu: why doesn't it return an order no?
jurov: because it is likely the order never got an id and got executed instead
mod6: when you place any order, it returns the order number in the reciept
mod6: sorry, its only in the STAT
mod6: it does return a statement of what order was placed though.
mod6: but yeah, no number. but this was by design.
mod6: to eliminate some HFT type stuff right?
mircea_popescu: not exactly. the system you're talking to has no idea/not the authority to know what order id the order will get or how will be executed
mircea_popescu: and as the entire thing is stateless the only thing you can do is examine the state later
mod6: My original plan here was just to display the order id's through the JSONSTAT
mod6: maybe jurov's is simialr?
jurov: mod6, you have to gather transactions, subtract them from the order you placed if they match
smickles: I wonder if i can get away with a 'cancel the order that looks sorta-kinda like <this>' function
jurov: and *then* matche the order with the list
smickles: mircea_popescu: this is why mpoebot places orders for limited time, isn't it
mod6: orders can have expiry's or not
mod6: or is that different?
mircea_popescu: i mean... it'd be in any case more effiicent to place limited time orders given that the bot knows how often it runs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00062 = 2.263 BTC [+]
smickles: bah, i would be satisfied with buying mpbor, but I suspect the thing i'm writing will be more profitabled
jurov: incidentally, i just met a friend who want to do hft bot
jurov: he was enraged with mircea's anti-hft preacutions
smickles: what? like no liquidity-adder rebate?
smickles: isn't that how hft makes most of its money?
jurov: no, the slow order placing/cancellation
mod6: yeah HFT would make me leave mpex
mod6: because i don't want to fight a fucking bot to place an order
mod6: that article on ZH really blew my mind. i'd be like fuck it. market tis brok3d.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00062 = 8.091 BTC [+]
mod6: everything that can be done to preserve the organic market of mpex should be
mod6: it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs
smickles: well, damn, i don't think I can put off order number fetching any longer
jurov: cue that boromir meme "you don't simply fetch order number in mpex"
smickles: mircea_popescu: would you not like it if I had a ~500 iteration loop which called statjson until it saw the order pop up, if at the end of the 500 iteration it haddn't, it would just assume it got executed?
jurov: smickles, what i'm trying to explain, you have to account for transactions
jurov: cause if half the order gets executed, only other half get an ID
smickles: jurov: I know, but I'll be putting only one order up at a time, so if anything shows up with that mpsic, that's it
jurov: ah, then okay. but you still have to filter txs from previous orders.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> no, the slow order placing/cancellation << order placing isn't slow ?
jurov: yes! it shows in statjson in only 2 to 20 seconds !
mircea_popescu: <mod6> it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs <<< i know. atm i actually do have an edge over nyse/etc.
jurov: ofc. for certain value of "fast".
mircea_popescu: the twitter to assbot latency is larger than the mpex.co to order queue latency by a degree of magnitude
jurov: like i'm using assbot...puhlease
mod6: mircea_popescu: i agree. If I was there in the pits and my client called me to place a market order immediately and i was being front run by an algo, i'd go banananas.
smickles: it seems, i'll stat, order, stat for diff untill i can reasonably assume that it was fully filled
jurov: yes, just that code that can "reasonably assume" it is far from trivial.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00062 = 12.958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]
jurov: w00t all promotional shares of CoinBr.MPBPT shares sold :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00062 = 6.355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @ 0.00062 = 6.4796 BTC [+]
jurov: nobody wants teh codez. cheapskates.
jurov: them scammers? never
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00062 = 3.7615 BTC [+]
jurov: really, if a bank approached me for that.. that would blow me off
mircea_popescu: they have no way of knowing you exist, not like socgen trolls irc
jurov: so you meant it the other way around? me going to the bank, offering interface to that mpex thing?
mircea_popescu: that's when what you learned fucking with it will command 10btc/hour
jurov: yeah, i'd be rather be fucking with something else, but that will be, too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5395 @ 0.00062 = 3.3449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10490 @ 0.00062 = 6.5038 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05998, Last trade: 13.56001, 24 hour volume: 36180.25779632, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.52947
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062 = 4.867 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00062 = 2.852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 320 @ 0.18066152 = 57.8117 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.57214, Best ask: 13.59090, Bid-ask spread: 0.01876, Last trade: 13.57214, 24 hour volume: 37126.85270592, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.53985
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00062 = 2.232 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.01899, Last trade: 13.59890, 24 hour volume: 37146.18653791, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.54030
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00062 = 1.39 BTC [+]
smickles: thestringpuller: ya know, rather than doing multiple ;;tickers, if all you want is up to date exchange rates, /j #bitcoin-market
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11237 @ 0.00062 = 6.9669 BTC [+]
mod6: there is a bitcoin price widget too for android.
mod6: check that out later when your velocity is lower.
mircea_popescu: smickles yes. jurov's representation is muchly exagerated :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4976 @ 0.00062 = 3.0851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14393 @ 0.00062 = 8.9237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.00062 = 2.6238 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1795 @ 0.00350019 = 6.2828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1768 @ 0.00350489 = 6.1966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00357336 = 2.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 837 @ 0.0036 = 3.0132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24539864 = 245.3986 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17780145 = 177.8015 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.12218421 = 122.1842 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17711205 = 177.1121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24469787 = 244.6979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5 @ 0.00331001 = 0.0166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00062 = 3.689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.00062 = 8.189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00062 = 4.712 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062 = 2.511 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 370 @ 0.02807186 = 10.3866 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6843 @ 0.00062 = 4.2427 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.48844982 = 488.4498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41387733 = 413.8773 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Unfortunately, I have very bad news. I cannot currently proccess your withdrawals. The situation is very complicated and it's all my fault, that's why I feel terrible about it. I tried to make this up, to keep the site afloat and somehow recover the funds, but it's not possible anymore. Right now there are 1786 BTC pending withdrawal, which I can't honor...
sgnb: mircea_popescu: will it be fixed eventually?
mircea_popescu: and tbh i think keeping money in anything other than mtgox and those frenchypoofs with the eu partnership is at this point cruising for a bruising.
mircea_popescu: the exchange market is going out of the "we can do anything" phase, there's no room left for one man and his hopes operations. which means pretty much all the extant ones will close down, and likely miost of them will close down ugly.
mircea_popescu: spot sellers a la d&t DBordello etc are probably safe for a while yet, but in general it's a closing window.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00062 = 5.053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00062 = 2.6375 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00062 = 4.3512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062 = 4.1106 BTC [+]
sgnb: mircea_popescu: you lost BTC because of bitmarket.eu? is there any public announcement of issues on their side?
mircea_popescu: what is with this expectation! it's getting ridiculous
sgnb: well, everything in bitcoinland is a scam, isn't it? :-)
mircea_popescu: in fairness, i should probably learn about quotation marks
mircea_popescu: but you know... i was here before pirate. some people preferred bitcoinica to mpoe. those people got screwed. it was a choice tho wasn't it.
Graet: um yeah, i misunderstood too, was looking in forum for your announce mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: well at any rate i'm not going bust over 1700 btc omfg.
markedathome: um... "there are 20161 19980 BTC missing (edit: I subtracted my funds that also were deposited on Bitmarket), and Bitcoinica claims total for around 50K USD"
mircea_popescu: basically, he was trading 20k of OPM on the strenght of 180 of his own
mircea_popescu: and then took that leverage and did a 5:1 on top of it at bitcoinica
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @ 0.00062 = 2.3399 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and he says he has experience. yet even hedge funds stop shy of 100:!
mircea_popescu: bitcoin had ~60k hosts last sept but is around 18k now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00062 = 1.8761 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: it's actually getting better, slowly, but still better than July/August
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00062 = 2.2531 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 700 @ 0.05261037 = 36.8273 BTC [-]
gribble: rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <rg> good times
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.08460123 = 84.6012 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00062 = 8.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062 = 1.674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5776 @ 0.00062 = 3.5811 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00062 = 8.99 BTC [+]
markedathome: mircea_popescu: people dropping bitcoin-client for electrum/armory/ webwallets?
markedathome: though i am getting annoyed with electrum - what is it with "developers" using glorified text files as a database?
mircea_popescu: "The percentage of working age Americans with a job has been under 59 percent for 39 months in a row."
mircea_popescu: i was perturbed enough a year or so ago when i found out who mircea monroe is
jurov: yes. wait when usagi finds out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062 = 6.169 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and we could have babies and name them all mircea mircea
jurov: so you'll change last name to mircea too?
mircea_popescu: "eNumbered is the choice of Occupy, Anonymous and Silk Road users." << ahaha people are seriously retarded enough to think this is a selling point ?
mircea_popescu: apparently they've taken egold and added some ponzi to the mix.
markedathome: that sounds vaguely solidcoin2.0ish - does it have account depreciation built in as well?
Ukto: I hear ppl make scam accusations, and other sregard him decently
Ukto: he hasasked to list BMF on BF
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00062 = 0.682 BTC [+]
Ukto: does he have plans to pay back?
Ukto: he doesnt even have a scammer tag (yet)
Ukto: and wrote he is trying to make good on BMF
Ukto: why bother relisting then?
Ukto: some asset usagi has been running
Ukto: i am looking into it now
Anduck: where the asset invested?
Ukto: as soon as I find the thread ill tell you :P
Anduck: how many of you know him irl?
Ukto: I havent personally seen anything negative re: smickles. only positive++
Ukto: thestringpuller: here is how I am seeing it
Ukto: If he's listng just to liquidate, (he is already offered to pay the listing fee to use the service so meh), but.. even if its liquidation, at least it will help the community get something back
Ukto: rather than all exchanges turning him down
Ukto: and he says fuck it and buys nothing back
Anduck: why did it got messed up?
Ukto: i cant find a detailed thread
mircea_popescu: Ukto well, he's nutty and fucked up a set of imaginary assets.
mircea_popescu: you're probably looking at more drama than it's worth.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24595 @ 0.00062 = 15.2489 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Anduck he had a miningthing (bmf), an insurance thing (cpa) and a braindamaged cdo thing (nyan series)
mircea_popescu: none of these actually ever did what they were supposed to. the bmf thing never had actual mining gear, for isntance.
mircea_popescu: as to smickles i never met him irl but he's been my broker for a while and upstanding.
Anduck: what makes you trustful?
Anduck: what makes people trust you?
Anduck: don't you know yourself??
Anduck: do people know you irl?
Anduck: well why do people trust you
Anduck: if i made a exchange and named it "anducks exchange" , would people use i?
mircea_popescu: possibly not at first. it's been going for a while tho.
Graet: people act in a trustworthy way and people trust them
mircea_popescu: Graet his q is pretty stumping tho. i mean, why do people trust one!
Anduck: pirate built a nice trust and then boom scammed
Anduck: thestringpuller: i guess pirate made you monies too xD
Graet: asking someone why ppl trust them is a rather loaded question
Anduck: Graet: have you met him irl?
Graet: ask some of the ppl that trust him why they do would makle more sense :)
Anduck: do you even know where he lives?
Anduck: what makes him not to run with your moeny?
mircea_popescu: i think some people met pirate or else someone hired for the job at some point
Graet: no, but i havent met you either, nor most of the 150 odd ppl that trust me and mine on my pool
Anduck: people STILL think pirate will come back and pay-WILL HE?
jcpham: so i'm reading this vladimir vs. magazine thread
Anduck: they met pirate and so pirate got like 100k more btc from them or something
Graet: so meeting someone proves?
mircea_popescu: Graet arguably tho, much less trust is needed to mine on a pool. at most they lose a few day's hash
mircea_popescu: then again, there was that pool-cum-ponzi combo recently
Graet: my point is trust is built, not just given
thestringpuller: Ukto: usagi run assets are bad news but dont take our word for it
Anduck: Graet: well do you have any kind of agreement on anything
mircea_popescu: moreover, if someone knew why people trust them they could hack more trust i guess
Graet: Anduck, agreement with who?
Anduck: i mean.. with mircea_popescu
Anduck: what if mircea_popescu now took all the monies xD
Anduck: mircea_popescu: tell me what makes you not to run with the money?
Graet: he interviewed me for his magazine ~ 18 months ago
Graet: apart from that we have cjhatted on irc. i dont see your point
Anduck: people trusted _some random guy from internet_ with their life savings (btcst)
Anduck: wasnt it enough a lesson
Anduck: i am not saying mircea_popescu isnt trustful
mircea_popescu: Anduck people get divorced all the time, is that a lesson not to get married ?
mircea_popescu: ok, i got a better one maybe. cars crash all the time, is that a lesson not to drive ?
Anduck: but you drive the car yourself
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00062 = 8.401 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i made a script to tell me how much mobey youve made based on the shares left
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: i'm currently worth some 10s of k's in cash and some 100s of k's in stock
Anduck: sell all shit n run like ni...ni...nig....RUNN!!
mircea_popescu: nobody can stay retired for long before they're 60 or so i don't think
jcpham: i'm sortof getting bored with all of this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.00062 = 5.523 BTC [+]
jurov: coinbr.com now working...outside bitvps
jurov: live.coinbr.com not yet
jurov: whole thing is such a farce...james did not pay for internet conenciton to switzerland datacenter
jurov: he is noit reachable now and new owners supposedly can't do anything about that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30710 @ 0.00062 = 19.0402 BTC [+]
jcpham: i payed it last month btw
pigeons: will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS?
jcpham: if I hadn't rebooted my PC in the last month
jcpham: I'd have the swiss login
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00062 = 3.875 BTC [+]
Ukto: As of this point, I am waiting for Usagi's ticket reply
Ukto: on what his plans are for sure
mircea_popescu: pigeons quite possibly. giving them a little time to come up with proper reports and everything
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00062 = 10.168 BTC [+]
jcpham: i've paid the swiss bill 3 times now
jcpham: if that tells you anything
jcpham: 2x i had to find out from rg that the bill was due
jcpham: and that's why my vps was offline
jurov: and new owners knew nary of that?
jcpham: i've already grpp'd my logs and i don't have th login info anymore to pay it again
jcpham: i had it in a pm but it is gone now
JWU_42: apologies it got to this for those who invested
JWU_42: jcpham: appreciate your patience with this...
jcpham: tbh if you never pay i won't complain
jurov: jcpham, okay but you're the owner? or why does namjies &co act surprised over this?
jcpham: sorry jurov i know nothing
jcpham: my swiss vps has been offline 3x now and i've payed the bill to get it backonline
jcpham: and by "payed the bill" I payed the swiss datacenter to get everyone's vps's back running
jcpham: rg seemed to forget about switzerland
JWU_42: jcpham: I might need to take you up on that depending how this goes ;)
jcpham: we're talking maybe 10btc total
JWU_42: that is NOT the plan, however
jcpham: which i want but it isn't going to help or hurt me
Ukto: [09:43] <pigeons> will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS? <-- I musta missed something, did RG sell?
JWU_42: the most vocal people are folks with <100 shares
jcpham: at one point in time at close 1000 shares
JWU_42: I understand their frustration - I lost out on several GLBSE assets as well - but like you - for a dozen or so BTC - not worth the emotional energy to spaz over it
JWU_42: but everyone has their right to be pissed
jcpham: people need their drugs off sr
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062 = 3.596 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jcpham maybe you should get in touch with ajit/namjies ?
jurov: we're all so in touch
pigeons: rg not meticulous with paperwork? no way
jurov: thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6662 @ 0.00062 = 4.1304 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's long but i really want to hear what the wise think.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it <<< haha good policy.
Anduck: man i made it in the post
Anduck: damn irc logs can be pasted anywhere!!
Anduck: u included my jokes in it! goddamnyou"
Anduck: monies and the nignigrun
Anduck: btw mircea_popescu: what makes mpex superior to other exchanges??
jurov: Double Cherry Truck insignia?
jurov: every time i reread the faq, a new surprise
gribble: Time since last block: 31 minutes and 26 seconds
mircea_popescu: JWU42 what's the total yabmc story ? about 20k or so ?
Anduck: mircea_popescu: wtf is that crap doing in the FAQ page
Anduck: "awards" and other stuff that makes "REAL WORLD PEOPLE" think it as a joke
Anduck: one running a system like that should not treat is as a joke in any way
mircea_popescu: i guess it makes real world people think of it as a joke.
Anduck: i mean - it just seems to me like some kid made a site .......
Anduck: well if you want people to use your service
Anduck: it's not the best way to also make people interested in BTC
Anduck: when all the services are semi-jokes
mircea_popescu: i guess is the advantage of the rich - they see more humour in life ?
Anduck: some may think it's too much fun
mircea_popescu: here's the difference : this service is doing things right and has a little humour. the others are mostly humourless hacks doing things wrong.
jurov: actually most other sites look like they are made by kids
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00062 = 4.278 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Anduck: if someone (mircea_popescu) writes about himself in third person, you know something is off. Especially, if they plaster their own name on every silly thing they think they "invented".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00358628 = 0.6419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00062 = 8.835 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller hard to say. mtgox and sdice are there for sure.
mircea_popescu: possibly the one asic maker that actually delivers is there too
Ukto: LTC-Global created security BMF
Ukto: I guess that was Usagi's response to "What are your plans for BMF?"
Ukto: He opened a ticket on BF wanting to list BMF
Ukto: mircea_popescu: yes
jurov: meh. i'll believe it once someone licenses coinbr code at fair price
mircea_popescu: i sent rowit.co.uk folks a mail see if they're up for it
Ukto: someones getting jealous :P
Ukto: unless crypto posted something that I somehow missed, and he doesnt want to link
gribble: Time since last block: 6 minutes and 1 second
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.54311, Best ask: 13.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00688, Last trade: 13.54311, 24 hour volume: 28976.00583363, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.55264
smickles: what? i see c11, c12, c13 and they skipped c14 (where my orders are) and went to c15!
smickles: < Ukto> smickles: ? << what's up?
smickles: < Anduck> how many of you know him irl? << probably none, you anywhere near tucson AZ?
Ukto: smickles: Usagi had opened a ticket on BF asking to list BMF. I replied asking what his intentions were with the asset. He seems to have a pretty questionable history.
Ukto: I got an email from btct.co a few min ago saying that BMF had been listed.
smickles: mircea_popescu: oh, I guess that would've missed me anyway then :P
Ukto: So I guess he didnt wanna answer my question. :P
smickles: yeah, don't question usagi if you want him to pretend to do something
Ukto: I dont midn shrugging the scamish assets onto the others
Ukto: It's really more of a positive thing I think
smickles: anyway, i think my WoT rating of him puts my position clearly, he defaulted, an made good after default, but that's no reason for me to trust him now.
Ukto: at least he made good so *shrug*
Ukto: defaulting seems to have happened more than once for him in the past.
PsychoticBoy: I want to get rid of 115 gigamining shares since I am not going to send my personal information to a kid behind his computer calling himself a lawyer, someone wants to take them
smickles: i bet you can with psy's life rights or something
smickles: power of attorney in this matter
smickles: is romainia like a weekend trip's distance from finland?
Anduck: 1k btc aaand i'll do it
Anduck: (includes tickets to there and back + a simple job with no harm to anyone)
EskimoBob: Ukto: is BMF getting re-listed? Oh nooo.... :) I hope usagi has learned something from his previous fuck ups
smickles: Anduck: well, yeah, i was going to suggest you find out if mircea_popescu actually has a sex dungeon, but I wasn't going to pay hardly any btc to help out the venture.
Ukto: read the asset details
Ukto: you will get some laughs
EskimoBob: you understand that you have to go to Russia or take 2 boats, if you want to use a train for that
EskimoBob: PsychoticBoy: sounds like it. Round #2, lots of miscalculated NAV's and other BS :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5366 @ 0.00062 = 3.3269 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: hmm, i see several better sticks available
PsychoticBoy: Explain how your products and services are competitive.
PsychoticBoy: --- Nobody could compete with us when I listed on the GLBSE, We blew MU, SS,
PsychoticBoy: MINING and other funds out of the water. We were about 5 times bigger than every
PsychoticBoy: other fund on GLBSE put together (from what I've seen of people's balance
PsychoticBoy: statements). For some reason or other, people liked how I ran things.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: lol "(Have to admit, I wasn't expecting this, and I lost the original BMF contract
EskimoBob: when GLBSE went down. I'll propose this, and I'd like to make any changes you
EskimoBob: I guess this is what you get, when you delete your own posts
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: total was about 8K BTC
smickles: lol, SS stayed small intentionally
smickles: Usagi himself even claimed he wanted to place 10000 btc with us
smickles: mircea_popescu: use that pic of me with a smirk holding the camera, it's like i'm holding his poney-tails
mircea_popescu: well, usagi is a valuable dramadition to any exchange that'll have him.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00062 = 3.007 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: Why doesn't MPEx display open interest on options like MPOE used to?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 821 @ 0.00358628 = 2.9443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 369 @ 0.00355917 = 1.3133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 410 @ 0.00349819 = 1.4343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12621 @ 0.00062 = 7.825 BTC [+]
smickles: breaking news, s.mpoe is worth as much as we want to trust mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: re the open interest... already so many numbers in there ;/
mircea_popescu: re blog comment : for every 500 btc i make smpoe must appreciate by 5k ? is this sustainable ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0036 = 5.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11475 @ 0.00062 = 7.1145 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: so they are on a verge of going out of business?
gigavps: did someone steal EskimoBob's handle
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob tis unclear. new team trying to turn things around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: I hope they do and good luck with that.
gribble: Current Blocks: 213054 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 641 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2919948.29465722 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.3593239604
EskimoBob: BTW, 5519 shares left and div date is 22 so get in and enjoy
EskimoBob: something that crawls up at 4-7% per week has to drop sooner or later
gigavps: EskimoBob i thought you only bought turds, i didn't know you were selling them
EskimoBob: i do not do mining gigavps so thy can not be turds
EskimoBob: turd business is all yours, gigavps
mircea_popescu: i guess everyone was hoping for price spike, that didn'ty happen so miners are going offline
gigavps: asic will arrive soon enough
mircea_popescu: also means miner market is pretty much saturated/no more dollars pouring in
mircea_popescu: which means asic companies have all the money they will everget, period.
EskimoBob: and imaginary ASICS have not materialized so what else is there to expect
mircea_popescu: if they fail to make asics in these runs, there's no asics in 2013 at all.
JWU_42: no asic in 2013 = butthurt for me
EskimoBob: so it's more like May if history repeats... and it usually does
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob may is impossible. either jan, feb or march in degrading order of likeliness
gigavps: EskimoBob does have a point there
JWU_42: well - October/November = Feb/March for BFL
JWU_42: this was proven before
gigavps: has bASIC stopped communicating all together?
gigavps: saw a couple posts of disgrunted people in the forums
kakobrekla: money flow cumulative is at all time high
gigavps: i do find it interesting that he was only active when he wanted everyone's money
JWU_42: and saw they are rebuying (or he) fpga stuff at $.20 on the dollar
JWU_42: maybe my numbers are a tad off
gigavps: kakobrekla where did you get that stat?
gigavps: it's higher than at the $29 peak
gigavps: so the moneyflow scale is on the right?
JWU_42: might color the axis red and blue
JWU_42: make it easier to discern
kakobrekla: money flow oscilator owns with bitcoin
JWU_42: interefsting that price hasn't moved much despite the moneyflow
JWU_42: last time you had this moneyflow price went up about 4x
kakobrekla: its pooling data with sierra chart plugin
mircea_popescu: for one, outflow far exceeds total inflow at most points.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00062 = 0.93 BTC [+]
JWU_42: or some other currency
kakobrekla: volume made on uptick is bull on downtick is bear
JWU_42: maybe i am not "getting" the graph
mircea_popescu: you can't have more outflow than the total inflow to date.
JWU_42: mircea_popescu: I see your point...
mircea_popescu: it would propose most outflow goes through gox but not most inflow, which is nonsense
mircea_popescu: gox is used miostly for inflow, people take money out privately.
JWU_42: I would think the opposite - most epople sell via mtgox as price is highest (generally)
JWU_42: and buy elsewhere where prices are lower
mircea_popescu: the buyers are many and small timers, the sellers are few and sell large chunks
JWU_42: Then I break the rules
kakobrekla: perhaps we should call it cumulative delta
JWU_42: rules isn't the best word choice
mircea_popescu: that's a sentiment guesser not a historical descriptor.
kakobrekla: its actual trades that happend with market orders
mircea_popescu: how do you even distinguish market from limit orders on mtgox, do they mark them in some api output ?
kakobrekla: if one buys at market its obvious that on the other side there is a lmit order to be filled
mircea_popescu: a trade can be eitgher limit crossing limit or market crossing limit
mircea_popescu: i thought you said above this data is market orders only ?
kakobrekla: with mtgox you cant place a bid limit over ask
kakobrekla: its more useful for btc than anything else
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00062 = 8.1226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00062 = 5.4858 BTC [+]
JWU_42: the one MP posted just above
JWU_42: but not something that gets me excited to lend
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850000 @ 0.00062 = 1767 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 420 @ 0.11564518 = 48.571 BTC [-]
Anduck: + they talk horribad english
mircea_popescu: "or you can cover your debts with a loan from yourself by this EU third party whom mystifies stuff, which is state business again.. and any government is fraudulent."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6483 @ 0.00062 = 4.0195 BTC [+]
Anduck: mircea_popescu: the first comment. i understood nothing
Anduck: except the final part, that one i got
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062 = 4.185 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9098 @ 0.00062 = 5.6408 BTC [+]
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm chatting here via a bitvps server :o
Namjies: Not all servers are alright.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062 = 4.464 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: This doesn't mean that it's doom and gloom. (though we've had plenty of that already). What it means is that I won't have time to maintain the miners, keep things running, or run the sites/infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: A) BTCSYN will be shut down, and we'll figure out a sane way to do that (liquidate and pay out to shareholders using this list)
mircea_popescu: B) Someone else will need to pick up the torch and continue operation (At the vote of shareholders).
mircea_popescu: IF we decide to liquidate (ie no other alternative is presented) be aware that the debt to enterpoint is larger than our current liquid assets, and the liquidatable value of those other 4 boards isn't very high with ASICs around the corner. Ideally another alternative will be possible. We'll see in the newyear.
Namjies: I usually understand that by the immediately following statement mentionning that X business is going down.
Namjies: or the failure statement including things that you're not even in business in.
mircea_popescu: i don't remember who it was i was quoting, but a few people were spooked.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47429, Best ask: 13.56797, Bid-ask spread: 0.09368, Last trade: 13.47425, 24 hour volume: 29638.17165934, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.54771
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062 = 2.4713 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062 / 0.00062 / 0.00062 (3767064 shares, 2,335.58 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00054214 / 0.00063995 (104595129 shares, 56,705.52 BTC)
Namjies: There wasn't much in that quote other than money was lost and the business was attempted to be kept afloat to recoup loss through fees or something like that.
Namjies: For once that could potentially have been applied to MPEx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
FabianB_: thestringpuller: make a new transaction with a fee
Namjies: a transaction with an higher fee has priority over the same output with a lesser fee, I believe.
FabianB_: depends on the miner (or pool), different pools implement it differently i think
mircea_popescu: a broadcast transaction pretty much never dies if i understand this correctly
kakobrekla: or else we could build infinitive queue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062 = 11.687 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 38 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00062 = 3.6822 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: how many dmc shares do you even have?
Diablo-D3: if its not a large fraction of the missing 300 some shares, why bother me over it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 96 @ 0.00349819 = 0.3358 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00348464 = 5.9239 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00346752 = 7.8019 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00346504 = 5.1976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00345578 = 8.6395 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00344559 = 3.6179 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5587 @ 0.00343861 = 19.2115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.00342636 = 16.1039 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00339841 = 2.039 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1041 @ 0.00337007 = 3.5082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7495 @ 0.00190012 = 14.2414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 208020 @ 0.00190011 = 395.2609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-]
Namjies: I should have had a bid in!
Namjies: Why didn't I have more BTC available for this!
Namjies: I wanted to have bids in...
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00161337 / 0.0036 (1753279 shares, 2,828.70 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00308387 / 0.0037 (9053859 shares, 27,921.00 BTC)
smickles: whoever got that 1394btc worth at .0014 should be happy
smickles: ;;calc (30000-16000)/100000000
EskimoBob: smickles: next div day will not be as nice as those so far
Anduck: did S.DICE just go down like hell
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob next div day its projected to pay as much as TOTAL so far.
EskimoBob: do the math. There will me more shares outstanding to share the income
smickles: it should pop back up soon tho
smickles: I see no fundamental difference b/t now and earlier
Namjies: EskimoBob, on MPEx, all shares even non-outstanding get dividends.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: are you telling me, that they can not sell any shares from III ?
Namjies: So no more shares to split. Beside, each share represent 100 000 000th of SatoshiDice income.
smickles: EskimoBob: the other 90000000shares are not treasury stock
Namjies: Evoorhees keeps 90% of revenue, the 10 million he's selling is for 10% of revenue.
Namjies: Otherwise SatoshiDice would be paying 10-20% per month...
EskimoBob: sure but the ones he has not sold in IPO can not get divs or ...
Anduck: smickles: day changed in finland
EskimoBob: fuck, this IPO is even bigger fuck up than I ever imagined
smickles: Anduck: you fins celebrate the 22nd?
Anduck: nah... we don't actually
Namjies: EskimoBob, the dividends shown on MPEx is for 10 million shares.
Anduck: i just happened to notice it at 00:00
smickles: heh, you had me baffled Anduck
Anduck: well uhmm whats happening to SD?
smickles: EskimoBob: i don't understand what you are upset about
Namjies: The other 90% Evoorhees keep.
Anduck: did my shares just lose all its value?
EskimoBob: smickle, I am not upset at all but who keeps the divs on shares not sold on IPO?
Anduck: what bitcoin address i sent
smickles: Anduck: someone just sold a bunch, for personal reasons it seems because there isn't any bad news out there
Namjies: Otherwise, what, someone buy one share and no one else and that person gets everything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00062 = 13.144 BTC [+]
Namjies: That share didn't finance the whole of SatoshiDice. SatoshiDice was already financed.
Anduck: big 0.1 bets to <1 handle winning streak incoming
EskimoBob: Namjies: you kno what treasury stock is and why shares have that "status"?
EskimoBob: Namjies: sdice wash NEVER financed
smickles: Anduck: if you look at the chart, this happend a couple of times already and it recovered within 24 hrs
kakobrekla: shuuttup smickles almost got the shares.
EskimoBob: he pulled a number out of his ass, mircea_popescu helped him to sell this garbage and now you have, what ever you have there :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00359 = 1.077 BTC [+]
Namjies: EskimoBob: it was, by evoorhees, for initial development and servers... that's still financement.
mircea_popescu: the largest revenue generator in btc, is what you have there.
Namjies: Plus no part of the 100 million shares was ever treasury stock.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: usagi thing? And hat is that?
mircea_popescu: you don't like it, stick to making mud pies or w/e you're making.
mircea_popescu: usagi thing. clueless stupidity acting as if it knows shit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00062 = 14.012 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: talk about yourself :)
Namjies: EskimoBob, there is nothing wrong in all of this... SatoshiDice was already an established business. It went public with 100 million shares owned by Evoorhees since he owns his business. Buying shares of S.DICE means you buy an interest in SD off of him.
Namjies: He's still entitled to any interest on shares not sold.
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: I am not a troll at all. If you do not understand, why you got fucked, sorry
Diablo-D3: so EskimoBob doesnt understand how companies go public?
mircea_popescu: Sep 04 22:47:33 <usagi> I know more about finance than you could possibly understand mircea
Namjies: The rest of the shares were never treasury stock.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: hehehehehehehheheeheh
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: did you go short?
Namjies: No, I think EskimoBob was simply under the impression the rest was claimed to be treasury stock when it's not.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00062 = 2.294 BTC [+]
Namjies: It's not, so no scam there. SD was paying about 1% per month.
Namjies: It was indeed low, quite low...
Namjies: But you could easily calculate and know that if you read before buying.
Namjies: Considering it's one of the most trustable business out there, that 1% is still good.
EskimoBob: i had only few shares of this crap for lulz, so I do not really care
mircea_popescu: no, you had only a few shares because that's all you actually can afford, and yes, you are quite the lulz.
EskimoBob: Namjies: do you see, how this business can really grow from where it's now?
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: your obsession of money only shows how poor you actually are. LOL
mircea_popescu: blind dog goes to mt fiji. "your obsession with clouds shows how small you really are".
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm sure mt fiji is within the size purvey of blind dogs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6359 @ 0.00062 = 3.9426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2701 @ 0.00359 = 9.6966 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: now, go reload your porn site, you lonely fuck :) and count your 2 coins, while you are at it LOL!
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu, pathetic little man, always counting other peoples money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4451 @ 0.00062 = 2.7596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00359 = 0.0108 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: what is it mircea_popescu, still have problems getting a women? Go see a specialist about your complexes
mircea_popescu: if this guy turns out to have actually BEEN usagi all along, and set up the arguing with himself and all, it'll be on boxxy level of sad.
EskimoBob: usagi was your big pall, mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla trying to remember, is she the one with the backtracing ?
EskimoBob: I can see, how you two dimwitted fucks fit
smickles: boxxy as in boxxy is dead, or boxxy the forum dweller?
Diablo-D3: boxxy as in you're behind 10 of them?
kakobrekla: i dont know what the shit was about that girl
smickles: I actually used gaia when this happened
Ukto: smickles: otehr than today major hack? 0,o
mircea_popescu: i'm not actually watching the chain. did they just lose like the house ?
Bugpowder: I would expect that after the BitVPS
mod6: it seems strange because div's havent been paid, you'd think someone would want to hang on until then!?
Ukto: mircea_popescu: hey.. just tryin to keep it real :P
Anduck: o crap i said it here it was meant pm !!!
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i sent you a gribble tell but then you joined and didn't id with nickserv and then d/c'd. did you get it ?
smickles: someone run the dooglus scrypt
smickles: maybe someone lost control of their gpg key
mod6: i was thinking fat-finger?
Bugpowder: The way to make money really is to just put insane bids out and be patient
Bugpowder: .0014.... sheeeit. Dividend is 10% at that price
EskimoBob: LOL: 15 More of the World’s Most Dangerous People, Selected by You .. #5 Satoshi Nakamoto. (wired.com)
mircea_popescu: well, so the question in my mind... why isn't s.mpoe tanking.
Diablo-D3: I should be a dick, and never allow you to claim shares
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: you can always go out and suck one? How about that?
smickles: EskimoBob: no f'n way satoshi?
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: you really need to get the latest updated list and clear up this crap.
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: nefario sends the lists out _when he feels like it_
Diablo-D3: you're lucky assets holders even have partial lists
EskimoBob: smickles: this is a readers voted list
Diablo-D3: WHY THE FUCK DID IT TAKE YOU SO FUCKING LONG TO GO THROUGH THE CLAIMS PROCESS
Ukto: i like the #1 selected
Diablo-D3: YOU'D ALREADY BE ON THE LIST IF YOU DID IT WHEN YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO
Bugpowder: Off to a pinot noir tasting dinner.
mircea_popescu: the only logical explanation was that he needed this long to falsify them
EskimoBob: me? I did it in day 10 or so, so calm the fuck down
Bugpowder: I sent in my claims in the first hour
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it matches what people have independently verified
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: and DMC's list is basically complete, its only missing like 3xx shares out of 11909
mircea_popescu: the fact that it matches what "people" have claimed means jack shit really.
mircea_popescu: OBVIOUSLY it would. that's why it takes 3 months to make them
Diablo-D3: they tell me what the list should say, and then I check the list
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, all significant claims of SS, I've tied to long standing WoT idents
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: I told you, I only hold few shares of your fucked up DMC :) It was a fkn disaster an looks like you still cant get your shit in order. Why are you angry at me? You are the manager.
smickles: mircea_popescu: i dunno, hudreds of btc is small, but is still nice change in your pocket
Diablo-D3: did I give nefario permission to close glbse? no
mircea_popescu: smickles ya but the trouble of making the shit up is likely not justifyied.
Diablo-D3: was he paid to do a job and failed to do it? yes.
Diablo-D3: it'd be like if NYSE just closed shop one day and burned the records
Diablo-D3: you couldnt blame the companies listed on NYSE
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: nyse is also RAN CORRECTLY
EskimoBob: yes, dear Diablo-D3, your shit. Did I make all those retarded decisions or was it you? Umm... lets think about it for a second, or do you need a minute?
Diablo-D3: Ukto: oh, and btw, if you fuck up like nefario did, I _will_ kill you.
Diablo-D3: Ukto: just letting you know ahead of time.
Ukto: Diablo-D3: I already have a suprise shut down date/time in mind. dont worry
smickles: Diablo-D3: you mean _kill_ right?
Ukto: sadly for me.. it wont be as effective
Ukto: since I have the public list
Ukto: I cant extort ppl for money or such
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: and no, I didnt make any "decisions". nefario claimed he vetted assets, and then let the assets do things that, if they were real companies on a real stock exchange, would be highly illegal
Diablo-D3: DMC only invested in companies. Those companies chose to scam investors, DMC had nothing to do with that decision.
Ukto: more like 6ft under
smickles: lol, inb4 same joke a third time
EskimoBob: so what are you telling me that you where just a mindless chicken, clicking buttons of "buy" and "sell" and swap?
smickles: I envision the muppets chickens
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: that pretty much saved DMC, yes.
Ukto: EskimoBob: he's trying to lay an egg. :P
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: so you tell me that you are incompetent chicken and not a portfolio manager?
EskimoBob: dude... I expected you to be something more
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: in the end, DMC bought back half the shares with the money made and still has about 2k btc worth of assets.
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: only 2k btc went into DMC.
EskimoBob: fuck.. I am so disappointed in you :(
Ukto: lets leave it at that
Ukto: no need to repeat :)
EskimoBob: 2K btc? really, ant after you where done, we had what? 0.02?
Ukto: heh. no need to nit-..peck.. >,>
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: yes, share price dropped. only about 100 shares were ever sold above 0.66
Ukto: so, apparently tor has 'torchat' now?
EskimoBob: dude, you lost 98% of investors coin :)
Ukto: is there a torfilexfer now ?
EskimoBob: go program stuff, you are good at it
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: okay so, 20k shares sold, 2k of btc went into dmc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00359 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: now, Im pretty sure you can do the math
EskimoBob: OK, lets leave it at that. I have no wish to make fun of you unless you beg for it :)
Diablo-D3: the average share sold price was already 0.10
Diablo-D3: I bought back half the shares, and we still had somewhere around that in assets
Diablo-D3: so 10k shares, average sale price 0.10, 2k btc in assets.
smickles: i'm still waiting for a torphone
Diablo-D3: lets say I only had 1k btc in assets, I still lost 0%, nor gained 0%.
Ukto: mebbe I should do like btct
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: so your math is highly questionable
Ukto: and post shares of BF for sale
EskimoBob: no it is really simple. It was X and then it was X-99%
Diablo-D3: yes, because I quit selling shares at full price
EskimoBob: or if you like: it was 1 and then it was 1/98
Diablo-D3: I did so with permission of the first shareholders, so you cant run that angle either
Diablo-D3: smickles: do me a favor and explain to EskimoBob how math works
smickles: Diablo-D3: ya know, the foundations of math are still being debated
Diablo-D3: smickles: now you're just trolling :<
smickles: Diablo-D3: not at all, look up mathmatical platonism vs empiricism
smickles: there's even a contingent of monists out there
smickles: and that's all confined to the scope of wether math actually exists or not
smickles: there's so much more controversy in math
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00062 = 0.558 BTC [+]
Ukto: mircea_popescu: what.. daily? :P
Ukto: hasnt even been open a month
Ukto: and for all .. what.. 57 trades? :P
Ukto: was just tossing out a good waste of money idea :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (507115 + 995840) * 0.0037 - (507115 * 0.0018 + 995840 * 0.0014)
mircea_popescu: so basically... someone(s) just made 3kish on mpex today.
kakobrekla: maybe it was same person - infini-cash
mircea_popescu: ooo i see what you mean, sold into his own bids, create panic, buy cheap ?
kakobrekla: yeah, theres a couple of explanations of what i said.
smickles: not bad pay for a day of irc, eh mircea_popescu ;)
Namjies: mircea_popescu: your fees are indeed only 0.2% and MPEx allows selling/buying from yourself...
Namjies: So market manipulation is perfectly feasible.
smickles: all the while the shareholders of s.mpoe make btc from it
smickles: what did s.mpoe start out at 0.00001?
mircea_popescu: Namjies well the problem with anon market, you can't impede self-dealing.
mircea_popescu: tbh, i'd rather have market participants not fall for it than market not allowing it.
mircea_popescu: not to mention on the macro level it impedes significantly momentum trading.
Namjies: I always thought that was stupid to protect people against faked trends. The price trend of a stock should not be what makes you invest in a stock. Unless you're daytrading.
Namjies: The value of the business behind, it's current dividends and current related events should matter.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9885 @ 0.00062 = 6.1287 BTC [+]
Namjies: If price is currently going down to top it, while news are good, all the better.
jurov: live.coinbr.com back online at last, bitvps seems to have fixed the issue. but must still refill recent data
mircea_popescu: La prova di assunzione per quell'unico ambitissimo posto di aiuto del vice corruttore laterale mafioso, consisteva nel risolvere un problema di contabilità nera, basata su codici segreti di esponenti piduisti dell'intrallazzone politico-camorrista.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Ukto: did you say fatponzi ?
smickles: crap, now i've gotta learn italian
mircea_popescu: the 70s/80s were very prolific in europe. france/spain had luis de funes (know him ?)
Ukto: if they ar enot american, then no
mircea_popescu: it still sucked, obviously, but at least wasn't quite as bad
mircea_popescu: Anduck cause over here we don't mind naked women and laughing at jesus&surogates.
jurov: i know the funes well, superfantozzi only a bit
jurov: and UK had benny hill
Anduck: y was meant to be "yes"
jurov: whatever. just that i remember him much more. we had only one tv and parents had no taste for monty python
jurov: and later, getting stuff with proper subtitles is pita. so i never saw much of teh pythons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
Ukto: are you being served...
Ukto: rowen atkin in general
mircea_popescu: im fluent so i don't used subtitles. it's a great boon.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu, you ears aren't fucked, that is a boon indeed
jurov: live.coinbr.com is now fully restored. s.mpoe daily chart is incredibly dull but the cause is somewhere else
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00062 = 1.302 BTC [+]
jurov: and the s.dice one sorely needs fix
jurov: Indeed someone is doing such trades on purpose to screw the charts.
jurov: indeed someone is overusing that word
jurov: indeed someone is talking with himself
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you should host a mirror of the blockchain
jurov: indeed. so btctalk can freak out "mircea is going to manipulate our preciousssss blockchain"
da2ce7: hey guys... we have a windows release of OT and Moneychanger :)
da2ce7: maybe it is time that people can start to look into using OT for asset mgmt
da2ce7: mircea_popescu: ^^ you may be esp intersted in this :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00062 = 5.642 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i was thinking about hosting one actually, mostly since i discovered clients are down under 20k
da2ce7: mircea_popescu: becasue we already have good linux and mac support... and there is many users for windwos.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00062 = 7.068 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well, this is enough excitement for one night. laters all!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00062 = 19.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00062 = 5.301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00161994 / 0.0036 (1762593 shares, 2,855.31 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00308214 / 0.0037 (9018148 shares, 27,795.20 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062 / 0.00062 / 0.00062 (3772948 shares, 2,339.23 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00054332 / 0.00063995 (103148077 shares, 56,043.36 BTC)
Anduck: how much profit s.mpoe makes a mo?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062 = 1.674 BTC [+]
Ukto: oh, i see, its not open for voting on btct
Ukto: brun just cant hide it from view
Ukto: i had an eamil from btct telling me BMF was adding, and to go vote
Ukto: no, votes are disabled on btct for it
Ukto: the relisting part, the liquidation part, or the fact that he wants the 5/10btc offer
mircea_popescu: wait, so btct doesn't really list by voting ? now i'm confused.
Ukto: if you mentioned wanting to list on btct
Ukto: he creates an asset
Ukto: and puts it in public view
mircea_popescu: so basically burnside is using the moderators to disclaim any liability in case anything goes wrong,
Ukto: even though its not 'live'
mircea_popescu: but otherwise they don't really get to decide anything
markedathome: does list by voting only occur for new assets not imported ones?
Ukto: so burnside creates asset (its in public view), then btct sends an email to everyone that there is a new asset and to vote, then issuer begins editing profile, then the issuer unlocks the asset for voting
Namjies: Wait, I'm importing BTC-BOND and it appeared instantly, but for voting.
Namjies: It can't be traded or anything and I have to wait for votes.
Namjies: I'm pretty sure there's actual voting required...
Ukto: Namjies: kinda curious honestly, why pick btct over bitfunder? (I dont ask about crypto for obvious interface reasons)
Ukto: it comes when the issuers unlock for voting
Namjies: Yes, I think arij and phungus will be really great for BitVPS.
mircea_popescu: the business model is pretty good, the brand is well known, this may well work. just needs more hours than 1 person has it'd seem
Namjies: no, rg was able to do it alone.
Namjies: He just got another job and working 65+ hours a week + juggling with BitVPS although neglecting it.
Namjies: on top of his 65 hours of work...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2007 @ 0.00062 = 1.2443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00062 = 3.069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1867 @ 0.00062 = 1.1575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7540 @ 0.00062 = 4.6748 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7799 @ 0.00062 = 4.8354 BTC [+]
Anduck: mircea_popescu: the bvps logo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00062 = 8.742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4907 @ 0.00062 = 3.0423 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10968 @ 0.00062 = 6.8002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11414 @ 0.00062 = 7.0767 BTC [+]
Ukto: I blame mircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062 = 5.208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6583 @ 0.00062 = 4.0815 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00062 = 7.564 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6628 @ 0.00062 = 4.1094 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00062 = 5.518 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
Ukto: what HAVENT you done?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00062 = 4.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7601 @ 0.00062 = 4.7126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2061 @ 0.00062 = 1.2778 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062 = 2.604 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: so, what gonna happen with bitmarket.eu nao
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062 = 6.51 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i cannot belive the balls the guy had to move clients funds to not only leveraged platform but also putting the funds in someone elses hands
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062 = 5.146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.00358998 = 4.308 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11332 @ 0.00062 = 7.0258 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the problem i envisage i drama doesn;t last like it used to
mircea_popescu: the ver privacy fiasco ? they're trying hard to resuscitate it but it died overnight
mircea_popescu: this bitcoinmarket idiot blows it in unimaginable stupid way ? next day it's all deflated.
kakobrekla: You know, I can't drink whiskey like I used to could.
kakobrekla: I get the shits every time, don't you know?
mircea_popescu: i hadn't been drinking much the past few years. recently i had dinner at a serb's restaurant with friends
mircea_popescu: very nice guy, family atmosphere, it morphed into an all nighter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3169 @ 0.00062 = 1.9648 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i ended up drinking 28 Slivovitz's and then walked out.
mircea_popescu: "1) GLBSE still owes us money, but the total debt is much less than 5000BTC. "
kakobrekla: at this point anyone can claim anything
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062 = 4.867 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35200, Best ask: 13.37197, Bid-ask spread: 0.01997, Last trade: 13.37198, 24 hour volume: 19786.24376264, 24 hour low: 13.35010, 24 hour high: 13.58998, 24 hour vwap: 13.47721
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00162128 / 0.0036 (1763793 shares, 2,859.62 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0030822 / 0.0037 (9019348 shares, 27,799.51 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2848 @ 0.00062 = 1.7658 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062 = 3.286 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: get like a really tall blonde with nice legs and big tits for one
mircea_popescu: and a really hot brunette with kardashian ass for the other
mircea_popescu: nah, this is crappy water mud. you want silicone gel mud.
kakobrekla: well thats why we have the pros around
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller people can code, people want to code. as a result we get piles of code.
mircea_popescu: people hate reading code, as a result the piles are shitty, useless, unaudited code.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller tbh mpoe bot is a miracle of longevity.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13445 @ 0.00062 = 8.3359 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15166 @ 0.00062 = 9.4029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8204 @ 0.00062 = 5.0865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062 = 6.944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00062 = 6.634 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, soon she'll be sent crowd funded flowers or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062 = 7.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 300 @ 0.04750236 = 14.2507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 300 @ 0.07196172 = 21.5885 BTC [-]
smickles: that sounds a bit off from what I had come to expect out of evoorhees
mircea_popescu: a well, other people's humour is a bit like other people's farts
smickles: well, at firs it seemd like a joke, but it had a weight to it
smickles: the dividend is down to .00012 per share now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00062 = 2.263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5899 @ 0.00062 = 3.6574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9355 @ 0.00062 = 5.8001 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.34401, Best ask: 13.39990, Bid-ask spread: 0.05589, Last trade: 13.34401, 24 hour volume: 19065.94294403, 24 hour low: 13.32130, 24 hour high: 13.58998, 24 hour vwap: 13.46577
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00062 = 27.838 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 574 @ 0.00358998 = 2.0606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062 = 6.944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062 = 3.596 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15058 @ 0.00062 = 9.336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00062 = 6.758 BTC [+]
jurov: it looks like mircea's selling the stock too cheaply
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062 = 6.386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00062 = 7.936 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: I also received a letter from that little shit bird usagi. Looks like all the crap he was spreading in the forum, that I do not hold any shares in those disasters he "managed", was a lie.
EskimoBob: I guess usagi is even a bigger liar than I ever expected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062 = 6.882 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: everyone and their grandmother managed to scam dmc.
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: while you're ramming your cock down the japanese princess's throat, link to my thread.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: you now how this shit storm is gong to end? Nefario will manage to clean up his part and is home free. Then rest of the scammy fucker have nowhere to hide
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: now some have to create a new scam to mask the previous one
EskimoBob: add * scammer list, except myself :)
EskimoBob: there is probably a bash script for that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5627 @ 0.00062 = 3.4887 BTC [+]
jurov: bash script for hiding the scams?
EskimoBob: jurov: you mean Read Mail Really Fast : sudo rm -rf /*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2031 @ 0.00062 = 1.2592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: or yo can practice in your home dir with ./*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: "hate" is too good for something as worthless as that crap :)
EskimoBob: my exchange? Why do I need one? I use ltcglobal for now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12051 @ 0.00062 = 7.4716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00062 = 9.362 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: rounded corners, lol. Yes, eye candy is how you pick a exchange to use
EskimoBob: btw, my wife makes the best gin&tonic in the world. I am going to have one...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: Diablo-D3, I was just reading that usagi did not own DMC shares, I got news for you, IIRC usagi`s BMF spreadsheet showed that BMF owned 148 ABM shares, now tell you what, No one owns near that number and also no email that fits usagi.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11287 @ 0.00062 = 6.9979 BTC [+]
Namjies: usagi has the email glbseuser@hotmail.com
Namjies: Not his official email usagi@tsukino.ca
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4072 @ 0.00062 = 2.5246 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9498 @ 0.00062 = 5.8888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00062 = 5.177 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1461 @ 0.00348056 = 5.0851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00347206 = 1.3506 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
Namjies: Does that mean he has more, then?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8420 @ 0.00062 = 5.2204 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: uhh in the case of that email address, yes that addy owns 210
Namjies: So I'm not sure, but it seems to be an issue regarding DMC only.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00062 = 4.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062 = 5.797 BTC [+]
dub: EskimoBob: hendricks gin, tonic, slice of cucumber
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6120 @ 0.00062 = 3.7944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00062 = 6.479 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9472 @ 0.00062 = 5.8726 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [04:01:30] <Namjies> usagi has the email glbseuser@hotmail.com
Diablo-D3: then hes going to have to publicily admit that
Diablo-D3: glbseuser is on the list with 1310
Diablo-D3: which is still less than he claimed
Namjies: Sales/purchases can occur between last you checked and GLBSE closed.
Namjies: Claims made before data was disclosed was last known amount.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6269 @ 0.00062 = 3.8868 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Namjies: Im not the party of interest here, though
Diablo-D3: usagi was claiming about half of the 10k shares
Namjies: Maybe he dumped a lot of them
Diablo-D3: possibly, but he never told his shareholders
Diablo-D3: and the market didnt support just dumping them in one go
Diablo-D3: glbse collapsed shortly after he made his last monthly reports iirc
Diablo-D3: because I bought half of the 20k before glbse collapsed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9664 @ 0.00062 = 5.9917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00062 = 5.208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00062 = 5.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062 = 6.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00062 = 7.533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00062 = 9.734 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25672, Best ask: 13.34999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09327, Last trade: 13.25565, 24 hour volume: 24767.51391968, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.58996, 24 hour vwap: 13.31611
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00061996 = 1.9839 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00061995 = 6.0445 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00061992 = 5.3933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.0006199 = 7.1908 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00061978 = 6.6316 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00061972 = 3.9972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1758 @ 0.00061967 = 1.0894 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00061966 = 2.4167 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00061956 = 0.6815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00061932 = 1.5793 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.0006193 = 2.0747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00061923 = 4.5625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3969 @ 0.00061904 = 2.457 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0006189 = 2.0424 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3011 @ 0.00061881 = 1.8632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00061878 = 4.6409 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00061874 = 4.7024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00061863 = 1.7322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00061861 = 14.1662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00061855 = 1.0515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0006184 = 7.0498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8310 @ 0.00061839 = 5.1388 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6913 @ 0.00061836 = 4.2747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00061834 = 4.8849 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00061834 = 4.1429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00061824 = 7.6662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00061822 = 6.9859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00061783 = 4.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7988 @ 0.00061773 = 4.9344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 863 @ 0.00061767 = 0.533 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00061761 = 1.7293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.0006176 = 2.7483 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00061755 = 4.786 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0006175 = 1.4511 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.0006175 = 14.2334 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47100 @ 0.0006174 = 29.0795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10470 @ 0.0006173 = 6.4631 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3945 @ 0.00061701 = 2.4341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4042 @ 0.00061695 = 2.4937 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00061671 = 6.8763 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7101 @ 0.00061664 = 4.3788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14626 @ 0.00061654 = 9.0175 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6113 @ 0.00061647 = 3.7685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00061642 = 3.6985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00061637 = 9.2147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8609 @ 0.00061635 = 5.3062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061625 = 4.1905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00061607 = 5.7295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8745 @ 0.00061603 = 5.3872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00061597 = 7.7612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00061596 = 5.482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061591 = 2.8948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6862 @ 0.00061586 = 4.226 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00061585 = 4.8652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00061579 = 8.6826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00061563 = 2.247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00061553 = 1.2618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3013 @ 0.00061553 = 1.8546 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3133 @ 0.00061547 = 1.9283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00061538 = 2.5846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00061517 = 2.7067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00061515 = 17.9009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00061513 = 2.2145 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5628 @ 0.0006151 = 3.4618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00061504 = 5.8736 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00061488 = 5.7799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061478 = 2.8895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00061475 = 11.4036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00061473 = 5.2559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00061457 = 2.6119 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00061456 = 7.4976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00061455 = 3.7488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00061453 = 6.3297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00061444 = 1.9355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00061441 = 3.1949 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10011 @ 0.00061435 = 6.1503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2043 @ 0.00061418 = 1.2548 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00061413 = 10.6244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22485 @ 0.00061409 = 13.8078 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00061409 = 1.2896 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00061408 = 3.5617 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00061398 = 11.2972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12502 @ 0.00061398 = 7.676 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00061389 = 8.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00061387 = 6.2001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00061384 = 1.3811 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00061383 = 4.2354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00061373 = 4.2654 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8720 @ 0.0006137 = 5.3515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9937 @ 0.00061362 = 6.0975 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00061359 = 6.7802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00061342 = 5.5208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00061336 = 3.4962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00061332 = 2.024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7218 @ 0.00061331 = 4.4269 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00061326 = 6.5006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9427 @ 0.00061312 = 5.7799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11997 @ 0.00061305 = 7.3548 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8889 @ 0.00061282 = 5.4474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25290 @ 0.00061273 = 15.4959 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00061244 = 3.9196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7786 @ 0.00061243 = 4.7684 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26643 @ 0.00061238 = 16.3156 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00061238 = 6.5525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00061236 = 4.1334 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00061235 = 4.562 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00061232 = 2.1431 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00061228 = 6.7963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00061227 = 3.5206 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00061216 = 4.0709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00061207 = 4.4681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1411 @ 0.00347206 = 4.8991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1794 @ 0.00340818 = 6.1143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 894 @ 0.00339076 = 3.0313 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00336639 = 2.8614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 51 @ 0.0032 = 0.1632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 820 @ 0.30712274 = 251.8406 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12335 @ 0.000612 = 7.549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00062 = 4.017 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00335672 = 2.3497 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062 = 6.851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00062 = 8.649 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00062 = 9.517 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: this was from hes web site but it was probably not updated. Only way to find out, what he really had, was ask James for a copy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00062 = 8.866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062 = 6.169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00322888 = 3.0674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062 = 2.976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062 = 4.805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00062 = 8.308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9017 @ 0.00062 = 5.5905 BTC [+]
pigeons: EskimoBob: I got the mug, awesome!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3395 @ 0.00062 = 2.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062 = 4.371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.13001, Best ask: 13.14780, Bid-ask spread: 0.01779, Last trade: 13.13001, 24 hour volume: 22196.08738081, 24 hour low: 13.01000, 24 hour high: 13.48547, 24 hour vwap: 13.24589
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2870 @ 0.00062 = 1.7794 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00062 = 5.58 BTC [+]
pigeons: yeah i might pick up some dice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00062 = 5.9446 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10682 @ 0.00062 = 6.6228 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4328 @ 0.00062 = 2.6834 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10655 @ 0.00062 = 6.6061 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9699 @ 0.00062 = 6.0134 BTC [+]
smickles: thestringpuller: good morning! Sorry that I missed you yesterday.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00062 = 14.663 BTC [+]
pigeons: you should have them draw for BTC
pigeons: bout to sell out Bob <@Litie> [GLOBAL/ART] Latest: 140@1.0 - Bid: 0.961 - Ask: 1.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00062 = 7.688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6546 @ 0.00062 = 4.0585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9626 @ 0.00062 = 5.9681 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: now put some prosciutto and cheese with that in the oven
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062 = 4.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00062 = 3.348 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hum, if i install bitcoind along bitcoin gui client, will it use same wallet right?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla o no, it was for chicken in white wine sauce
kakobrekla: to be honest sometimes i wish i could just eat elecricity or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9174 @ 0.00062 = 5.6879 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i dunno, i guess i dont like eating and shitting to much
mircea_popescu: and i just found out that my romanian literature teacher from hs just died
kakobrekla: i enjoy food sometimes, but most of the time its just to stop my belly from complaining
kakobrekla: would be easier to plug myself to 230v
pigeons: those are my 2 favorite things kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: i love cooking, and i love eating. i'm like an italian
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10391 @ 0.00062 = 6.4424 BTC [+]
pigeons: kakobrekla: i think you may need to do connect=127.0.0.1 in bitcoind.conf i dont remember
kakobrekla: i thought it was just about wallet.dat path
jurov: uh oh using bitcoind and bitcoin-qt with the same wallet? NOPE.
kakobrekla: accually if i get the latest client workin on ubuntu ... it has a console built in
jurov: you'll end up maintaining 2 copies of blockchain. bitcoin-qt is NOT a thin client afaik.
kakobrekla: but armory runs on top of bitcoind iirc?
pigeons: armory uses bitcoind for blockchain
jurov: yes? armory uses bitcoind rpc interface?
mircea_popescu: why do they distribute bitcoind with bitcoin-qt if they can't share the blockchain files ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+]
jurov: seems nobody bothered to implement that (or pay to be implemented).
markedathome: bitcoin-gui needs to talk rpc to bitcoind, which you set by the rpcport, rpcpassword in bitcoin.conf. bitcoind needs to be started first
jurov: yea, that's it. so i ended up using bitcoind CLI exclusively
jurov: well, that won't help you running bitcoind as service
pigeons: wxgui only before we even had bitcoind satoshi called it "headless bitcoin"
pigeons: i was thrilled when it came out
jurov: looks like we are mixing things. using CLI embedded in bitcoin GUI is one thing. RPC calling bitcoind running in the background is compeltely different thing.
jurov: the latter has advantage it is running all the time, it gets well connected and always ready with freshest blockchain
markedathome: right, bitcoind needs to run as a daemon, with rpcuser, rpcport, rpcpassword set in the bitcoin.conf
markedathome: a second bitcoind runs to connect and pass cli commands.
kakobrekla: 18:25.35 ( jurov ) the latter has advantage it is running all the time,
kakobrekla: i have at least 1 instace of bitcoin gui running all the time
markedathome: which should just be bitcoind sendfrom <fromaccount> <tobitcoinaddress> <amount> [minconf=1] [comment]
jurov: yes, running bitcoin gui all the time is an option, too.
markedathome: set up new one with -datadir ./somewhere-else and -conf ./newbitcoin.conf, if it is one off. otherwise you can get gui to connect to a daemon with the correct rpc settings
jurov: "can get gui to connect to a daemon with the correct rpc settings" But this is actually not supported!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7193 @ 0.00062 = 4.4597 BTC [+]
pigeons: jurov: ive done that quite a bit
markedathome: as in doesn't work, or devs have deprecated it?
pigeons: never knew it wasn't supported
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062 = 2.976 BTC [+]
jurov: nope. my 0.7.1 bitcoin-qt just ignored rpcconnect and is starting blockchain download from the very beginning
jurov: if it works for you i'm VERY interested
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00062 = 7.75 BTC [+]
jurov: with the same config, bitcoind works as supposed to (calls existing process via RPC)
jurov: so i'm convinced it is not supported
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
markedathome: can someone tell me what brackets round a channel name in kvirc channel list means?? kvirc faq/website/online help are singularly unhelpful
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00062 = 3.224 BTC [+]
markedathome: don't think so, there is no message saying disconnected or similar. google just tends to bring up lots of programmatic info as soon as the bracket is included in query.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28428 @ 0.00062 = 17.6254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13646 @ 0.00062 = 8.4605 BTC [+]
FabianB_: jurov: CoinBr.MPBPT-O, no more buys since a few days
jurov: i know, with the holidays it's normal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00062 = 7.378 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4805 @ 0.00062 = 2.9791 BTC [+]
FabianB_: i wonder whether it'll make it till end of month
jurov: no big deal, we'll fill the rest ourselves.
jurov: but i believe december 28th mpoe announcement may stir some additional interest
FabianB_: just in case, i would invest 10 more, but wouldn't if unessesary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062 = 6.851 BTC [+]
jurov: aas yoiu have seen, it may well backfire, like in case of fabianb :D
jurov: like, you have it all covered? oh, no need to invest, then. lol
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 520 @ 0.01498159 = 7.7904 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 800 @ 0.16843117 = 134.7449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 700 @ 0.05981764 = 41.8723 BTC [-]
pigeons: quit DoSin the comptetition ukto
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 500 @ 0.09645259 = 48.2263 BTC [-]
Ukto: is that the actual issue?
Ukto: BF hasnt had any trades lately. was kind of curious what btct's history looked like
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5094 @ 0.00062 = 3.1583 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2203 @ 0.00062 = 1.3659 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062 = 1.581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00062 = 8.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00062 = 6.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13090 @ 0.00062 = 8.1158 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00062 = 15.903 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3090 @ 0.00062 = 1.9158 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062 = 3.286 BTC [+]
jurov: maybe btct is working like slovak tax office - for some time their server was shut down outside working hours
kakobrekla: well its says "working hours" on the door doesnt it!?
FabianB_: well, real world stock exchanges aren't better :)
Diablo-D3: [07:12:17] <EskimoBob> this was from hes web site but it was probably not updated. Only way to find out, what he really had, was ask James for a copy.
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: so why doesnt he just say what the fuck the email is
Ukto: its the mental attitude
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00062 = 3.441 BTC [+]
Ukto: i have no control over it
Ukto: I was told to make twatter feed. I did. then I was told it was obsoleted. end of story.
FabianB_: kakobrekla: assbot doesn't like twitter streams anymore?
Ukto: FabianB_: the issue apaprently
Ukto: is that twitter will drop updates
Ukto: and is not accurate
Ukto: so I guess when I release the API for BF, he will just adhear to that
FabianB_: doesn't need to be 100% if it's just > irc
Ukto: yeah, i only made the twatter feed for itc heh
Diablo-D3: Ukto: yeah, just make a stupid telnet api
Diablo-D3: you can do it with like a dozen lines of perl
Ukto: json far easier an faster
Diablo-D3: you can stream the json over telnet
Diablo-D3: hell, you could run your own irc bot
Ukto: thought about it, but not worth the time/effort atm
Ukto: i have more important things I am working on atm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]
Ukto: than getting trades to show in irc
Ukto: would rather focus on gett the api system finished to publishing
Ukto: lsat real major thing the system needs
Diablo-D3: and then call a remote api in the daemon from your trade api AFTER its closed the
http request
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00062 = 7.595 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: usagi bitched at me in pm on the forum
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: Ive asked him to either tell the world what the email address is or give me permission to
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00062 = 5.394 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: he refuses to own up which email is his in the claims list
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00325183 = 0.6504 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.00326868 = 3.1052 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: and that does what exactly?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: he still refuses to tell me.
Diablo-D3: I intend on processing all of them anyhow
kakobrekla: FabianB_: theres a custom api now since twitter prooved to be unreliable even with the workarounds
Diablo-D3: all he has to do is confirm an address on the list
Diablo-D3: it doesnt matter, I want him to confirm it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00062 = 5.115 BTC [+]
FabianB_: kakobrekla: so you'll use the custom APIs of exchanges and integrate it in assbot? or do exchanges use assbot's custom api?
Diablo-D3: Im pretty sure google is not telling me what I want to know
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: the term you're looking for is troll, I think
Diablo-D3: seriously, why the fuck wont he just say what the email is
Diablo-D3: if he really did claim them, then whats the issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00062 = 3.131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062 = 7.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1022 @ 0.00329733 = 3.3699 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 578 @ 0.00332944 = 1.9244 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00062 = 3.069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6425 @ 0.00062 = 3.9835 BTC [+]
Namjies: Diablo-D3, I recalled he told that long ago and when I saw the email glbseuser@hotmail.com I asked him and he confirmed.
Namjies: There's no way it's not him, he knew the shares for that email before it was disclosed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
Namjies: It also match what he had before in his spreadsheet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18668 @ 0.00062 = 11.5742 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9938 @ 0.00062 = 6.1616 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: on? It will not start up, I have a pre-programmed sd card, all is right from RS
PsychoticBoy: i got a black screen and nothing seems to happen
PsychoticBoy: I should be capable of doing that with the use od diskimager
PsychoticBoy: but i ordered a pre-programmed sd card with it, so it should work properly
PsychoticBoy: The Raspberry Pi cannot find a valid image on the SD card. Check card is inserted correctly. Check that you have correctly written a Raspberry Pi image to the card. Did you have admin rights when you used the SD-card writer software? Without it the software might go through the motions without actually doing anything! To check if the writing process did actually happen Insert the SD card into a Windows machine and you s
PsychoticBoy: hould see bootcode.bin, fixup.dat and start.elf amongst others. See also, Known SD Cards. It is also possible that the image you are writing to the card is corrupt, as downloads do occasionally end up corrupted or truncated. You can check with the checksum utility if your download is correct.
PsychoticBoy: I checked the card and it has the named files in it
PsychoticBoy: thats the case but it should not be, the sd card is from RS and pre-programmed, sucky company
PsychoticBoy: tomorrow Ill buy a new sd card and flash it with the downloaded raspberry software
PsychoticBoy: does the size of the sd card matter? I have a 4GB from RS and I can buy a 16GB sd hc class 10 for 12eur
PsychoticBoy: and a brand like samsung or a cheap one like lexar
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: just buy the highest class that works with your device
PsychoticBoy: I am not a linux man, I bought the pi to learn linux etc
PsychoticBoy: I will buy the best zi can and make my wallet cry
Diablo-D3: I think this may be the first time Ive ever ran my own miner long enough to get 10k accepts
PsychoticBoy: nothing, my miner has accepted almost 4M shares and still no pot of gold
Diablo-D3: usagi isnow bitching about the 5btc
Namjies: I'm not a linux man either =/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00062 = 5.735 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: I am now writing the new debian for raspberry to the sd card delivered by RS, EskimoBob
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062 = 3.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: now lets seee hmmmn what does this button do???
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11917 @ 0.00062 = 7.3885 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: Now that I loged out and back in the prompt, can I just shut him off now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062 = 5.704 BTC [+]
markedathome: oh, I think I know - it is possible that the firmware files may have been for the 256MB version, though you still should have had something.
PsychoticBoy: I have flashed the sd card and now all is fine, was probably the 512mb issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00062 = 1.612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9801 @ 0.00062 = 6.0766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062 = 5.146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00062 = 12.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00062 = 7.192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062 = 5.797 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.05816915 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062 = 1.984 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00062 = 5.363 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8436 @ 0.00062 = 5.2303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9710 @ 0.00062 = 6.0202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 172 @ 0.00332944 = 0.5727 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 428 @ 0.00333047 = 1.4254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47852 @ 0.00062 = 29.6682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11133 @ 0.00062 = 6.9025 BTC [+]
WhateverIFeelLik: the check is due to arrive sometime in January, and I need the money before the end of December
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062 = 2.79 BTC [+]
smickles: WhateverIFeelLik: I might buy for 1.6 btc
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask WhateverIFeelLik!44071d66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.7.29.102 . User WhateverIFeelLik, rated since Sun Sep 9 21:02:35 2012. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=WhateverIFeelLik gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30221, Best ask: 13.39849, Bid-ask spread: 0.09628, Last trade: 13.30007, 24 hour volume: 14733.54087893, 24 hour low: 13.10200, 24 hour high: 13.40000, 24 hour vwap: 13.26361
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00062 = 4.402 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.04420246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00062 = 3.751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.03020824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12067 @ 0.00062 = 7.4815 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5744 @ 0.00062 = 3.5613 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.03005227 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4092 @ 0.00062 = 2.537 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062 = 4.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00062 = 4.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.02997932 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37001, Best ask: 13.38990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01989, Last trade: 13.37001, 24 hour volume: 14793.72595714, 24 hour low: 13.10200, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.27754
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00062 = 8.897 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7775 @ 0.00062 = 4.8205 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062 = 2.976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00062 = 4.309 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00062 = 1.767 BTC [+]
FabianB: Ukto: on weex, how do i know a gpg key got added? don't want to lock myself out by switching to gpg auth without it accepting my public key
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00062 = 13.64 BTC [+]
sgnb: mircea_popescu: is there a "text" (machine-friendly) version of mpex?
pigeons: that's funny cause some people keep asking him if there is a human-friendly version
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13610 @ 0.00062 = 8.4382 BTC [+]
sgnb: well, a more machine-friendly version would allow third-parties to build a more human-friendly version
mircea_popescu: sgnb you just don't set the html parameter and it answers in plaintext
sgnb: mircea_popescu: the latter
Ukto: FabianB: let me check for you
sgnb: didn't see this one
mircea_popescu: the old page said something like "validation comes up with 1k errors which is a source of great satisfaction to us"
pigeons: and used to drive ne0futur crazy
sgnb: so a friendlier interface would actually interest people?
pigeons: people claim it would, but i suspect they are just whining
pigeons: there is a friendly interface via coinbr.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1815 @ 0.00062 = 1.1253 BTC [+]
sgnb: well, it's yet another trusted third-party to add... it should be possible to make a purely web-based client to plain mpex so that its failure doesn't let the user screwed (à la blockchain.info)
sgnb: so none exists yet and it would interest people?
pigeons: how much it would interest people is probably unknown
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00062 = 9.982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5628 @ 0.00062 = 3.4894 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00062 = 6.634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062 = 4.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13349 @ 0.00062 = 8.2764 BTC [+]
FabianB: ;;rate Ukto 1 runs bitfunder and weexchange which supports gpg authentication, very nice
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Ukto has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00062 = 4.557 BTC [+]
pigeons: Q: Why was I gone for a month?
pigeons: By the way. The night that GLBSE shutdown I happened to be drinking. So I finished the bottle and I got really sick. This apparently lowered my immune system and I got some kind of very bad stomach flu."
Ukto: "I this makes you all happy" or w/e
FabianB: mircea_popescu: no, weexchange
FabianB: mircea_popescu: but the wallet of bf is handled by weex
Ukto: mircea_popescu: WeExchange has had gpg for a year now
Ukto: prolyl cause almost no one knows of weexchange :P
pigeons: hey guys, pirate is back, he was just drinking the last time we saw him and got realy sick
pigeons: "I am interested in hiring an accountant, although smickles is probably out of
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7063 @ 0.00062 = 4.3791 BTC [+]
Ukto: guess usagi took burnsides bribe :P
Ukto: He asked to use BF for BMF.. i debating it for a while,told him fine, as long as he actually pays ppl properly
Ukto: then eh went to btct
Ukto: and setup, after i set him up on BF
mircea_popescu: outside of usagi and eskimobob there's precious little left.
Ukto: which hes now being turned down @ btct.co
Ukto: so I am going to shut down his BF assset
pigeons: i'm actually suprised they are even voting against usagi on btct
Ukto: he just wants to use it to liquidate
pigeons: anyway, a "fund" of "mining bonds" doesn't seem like the best idea right now
pigeons: "Why the "Bitcoin Mining Sector"? because we believe it is the most stable and largest sector in the community right now."
pigeons: ah give the christmas gift of humor
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062 = 1.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: MASSIVE betting volume on S.DICE in the last few hours
Bugpowder_: Biggest betting volume ever for S.DICE this morning
pigeons: the guy who shorted it is hoping to break the bank
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00062 = 2.449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00062 = 1.24 BTC [+]
Bugpowder_: Still going. And now they are on a hot streak
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ heh. maybe it ends up +20k or some insane shit.
Bugpowder_: The most important thing for me is to see the volume is back
Bugpowder_: S.DICE will be a great investment for a long time
Bugpowder_: Well this month we are on pace for around 425,000 BTC bet this month
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00062 = 12.524 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
smickles: < pigeons> "I am interested in hiring an accountant, although smickles is probably out of the question" <<< too bad, i am curious tho, where'd you see that?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7471 @ 0.00062 = 4.632 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10820 @ 0.00062 = 6.7084 BTC [+]
markedathome: "The exchange is based on a different model than GLBSE or MPEx. The main concept of the new model is that PicoStocks is the legal owner of all assets. Users trading the assets can benefit from profits or buy and sell the assets to other users. PicoStocks is a legal person established under the jurisdiction of Marshall Islands. "
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5401 @ 0.00062 = 3.3486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00062 = 5.394 BTC [+]
markedathome: oh, i didn't expect you to put it in the list - I was wondering if anyone had heard much about it in the background?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00062 = 2.232 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically picostocks is the stock generation scam, yet again.
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <smickles> < pigeons> "I am interested in hiring an accountant, although smickles is probably out of the question" <<< too bad, i am curious tho, where'd you see that?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.35083, Best ask: 13.42890, Bid-ask spread: 0.07807, Last trade: 13.35083, 24 hour volume: 16486.50787807, 24 hour low: 13.16005, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.32690
JWU42: I couldn't keep up with the different assets he was involved with...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
pigeons: it says that prospectus was recently changed, but I still see your name in it
pigeons: hmm Ukto so you have been threatened unless you delisted usagi I see
Ukto: I stated quite clearly that 'some buttons were pressed on my side'. How he wishes to interpret that is up to him.
pigeons: I'm waiting for someone to respond to the "What do you want me to do, kill myself?" question he posed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062 = 4.371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5438 @ 0.00062 = 3.3716 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: *super mario bros 2 music* "This shit never ends."
pigeons: quoth usagi, "it's not my fault..."
pigeons: "and I tried to make things right and the community fucked me straight up the ass. What do you want me to do, kill myself?"
Diablo-D3: Namjies: usagi just got fucked straight up the ass by the community
Diablo-D3: I knew that 55 gallon drum of lube would come in handy
Namjies: What's up with the BTC community members always carrying 55 gallon drums of lube?
Diablo-D3: I dunno though, I keep telling usagi to quit dressing up like a japanese schoolgirl
pigeons: matthewh3, "I just created this new address in my blockchain.inf/MyWallet - 12LFYVWKz5wWaofhHGnB5EXtkJwGV2yGAy - as you can see it has the word GAy at the end. Can I get the private key for that address and sell it, is that possible.
Diablo-D3: being fucked straight up the ass by the community, apparently
gigavps: seems he's gone off the deep end
pigeons: funny you should mention him, I've been talking about that feloow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00062 = 6.324 BTC [+]
gigavps: he says he can't payout unless he's on an exchange
Diablo-D3: read last post of that page and all of page 2
gigavps: i thought he knew how to program? so if so, why can't he make a little payment system
gigavps: but he was in here saying that he was programming in rails or something
Diablo-D3: my mom died 2 months ago, you dont see whining like a little bitch about shit
pigeons: so the same illuminati that threatened nefario has come after Ukto
gigavps: the learn a language thing
gigavps: Diablo-D3 very sorry to hear that
gigavps: heh, there is no trying, only doing
pigeons: "I envision the next posting I make here being a scan of the surgery papers I turned down because there's a 15% chance I will die in surgery. Fuck you all. "
Diablo-D3: well, I gave up the whole learning a language thing. its easier to just write my own.
Diablo-D3: pigeons: oh, so hes getting the gender reassignment surgery?
gigavps: i guess the drama never stops on the forums
pigeons: gigavps: just usagi BS, not worth your time
gigavps: well, i've made an entire system to make payments, but since usagi can't program, i guess he won't be doing that
Namjies: Diablo-D3, but... you just did... once...
Namjies: Well more like plain instrumental
gigavps: i don't think it gets any more drama than that
Namjies: so, you have your own payment system for gigamining eh?
gigavps: i'm down about $25k so far for glbse closing
gigavps: maybe i should send a bill to nefario and ColdHardMetal
gigavps: this is not the first time i've thought about it
Namjies: Well technically the fees were for things like a lawyer for yourself and I don't think they had to keep anyone on their exchange if they didn't want to.
Namjies: You'd have more chance suing for damages caused by Nefario's rash decisions.
gigavps: i have been choosing to focus on positive stuff rather than negative
Namjies: Well, wouldn't be bad that Nefario knows... send him the bill regardless.
gigavps: we'll see how things fall into place for 2013
Namjies: I hope amazingrando gives signs of life.
gigavps: he relisted, just not paying
gigavps: Bitcoin Oz posted in my thread that he relisted
gigavps: doesn't do much good if you aren't paying
Namjies: We had a private deal. Shouldn't be impacted at all.
gigavps: so he just hasn't responded at all?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062 = 6.386 BTC [+]
Namjies: He hasn't been responding in quite some time.
Namjies: Dates back when he relisted and said he'd start paying again when he'd get his ASIC miners.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9042 @ 0.00062 = 5.606 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.36461, Best ask: 13.43961, Bid-ask spread: 0.07500, Last trade: 13.36411, 24 hour volume: 15856.68691214, 24 hour low: 13.18144, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.35680
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: we're tired of his shit
pigeons: he's had 6 posts since his "final public post EVER"
Namjies: I'm getting NO votes on BTC-BOND it seems.
Diablo-D3: I dunno, I wonder if hes trying to prevent me from paying DMC shares to him
Namjies: I'm going to announce it then.
thestringpuller: Diablo-D3: He's going to kill himself and I won't get my money!!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6791 @ 0.00062 = 4.2104 BTC [+]
Namjies: That BTC-BOND has been approved and you can make a claim.
Namjies: I actually paid many small holders.
Diablo-D3: OH SHIT ITS THE END OF THE WORLD FOR REAL THIS TIME
pigeons: no that's when mpoe-pr and bob make up
Diablo-D3: THERE WASNT EVEN 3 DOZEN ASSETS ON GLBSE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10214 @ 0.00062 = 6.3327 BTC [+]
pigeons: he had 200 shares of OBSI.HYPT = "hundreds of holdings" :)
Namjies: He has a lot more than 200 OBSI =P
pigeons: that was in the insured, low risk tranch
Namjies: That was in the through-the-roof risk range.
Diablo-D3: obsi quit because he got tired of the drama
Diablo-D3: its how I paid off half the dmc shares
Diablo-D3: "I am a worthless, petty, little fuck. Please believe me. All I want to do is pay out shareholders and I am done."
Diablo-D3: obsi wasnt a fucking faggot though
pigeons: markedathome: differnt bob, but good one
Diablo-D3: I dunno, maybe I should give usagi an offer
Diablo-D3: sign his immortal soul over to me and do my bidding
thestringpuller: give us a BTC address of someone who owes you money, we take care of the rest
pigeons: seems like it would be unprofitable
pigeons: the most productive btc debt collection i know of was shakaru, who still owes thousands
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 43 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> lol that's a point
pigeons: imsaguy collected money every time he earned some and distributed it to shakaru's creditors
Diablo-D3: I dunno, I dont get why the fuck everyone is so ... whatever
Diablo-D3: I was going to say greedy, but thats not the right word
Diablo-D3: fucking retarded is closer to what I want
Diablo-D3: Im so greedy, Im trying to make a company that makes a shitload of money just so I can be the CEO who makes a brazillion dollars a year
Diablo-D3: I mean, why the fuck steal a few thousand dollars when you can have them throw $20m at you every year
Namjies: Stealing a few thousands takes a lot less skills?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8078 @ 0.00062 = 5.0084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5252 @ 0.00062 = 3.2562 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Diablo-D3: don't you own a mining company that doesn't mine?
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: to classify DMC as only a mining company doesnt make sense
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: I dont get why everyone gets hung up on that
Diablo-D3: the mining hardware was going to be put in the data center
Namjies: Diablo "Mining" Corp. > Diablo Management Corp. or Diablo Microtechnology Corp.
Diablo-D3: Im just going to use the name I was going to use for the web hosting front
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: basically, it was just going to be mining, then I started fleshing the plan out
kakobrekla: could as well be Diablo Mythology Corp
Diablo-D3: the plan that we have now is the one I published, it hasnt changed
gribble: Current Blocks: 213470 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 225 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2977933.80142681 | Estimated Percent Change: -11.6387785945
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: did you miss most of the drama?
Diablo-D3: like, nefario tried to remove me as CEO of my own company
Diablo-D3: he locked my GLBSE account and did a shareholder vote
Diablo-D3: and then usagi tried to fuck dmc over and is apparently ragequitting for a second time
Diablo-D3: and several (actual) mining companies collapsed the mining market when they started selling shares that wernt backed by hardware and borderline pyramid scheme paid out dividends on said fake shares
Diablo-D3: in the end I won against everything, but meh
thestringpuller: then avoid the drama and deal with smart people in the illumaniti shadow world
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062 = 6.014 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: honestly, thats what Im probably going to do
Diablo-D3: like, at least two smaller VC groups are interested in my plan
Diablo-D3: but dont want bitcoin along for the ride
Diablo-D3: well, bitcoin paid for development of dm =P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062 = 9.3 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: I already bitched at mircea_popescu over that
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: I had 20k shares out there at maximum, but basically all of them were never sold for more than even a third of a btc
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: even though the plan was to sell shares for 1BTC each, that doesnt mean I had 20k
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: plus, I bought back half the shares
Diablo-D3: so if I lost 10k like he said, I'd have negative assets atm
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: DMC had about 3k BTC put into it, I lost about half off that, I made about half of that, and then I paid out about half of that.
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: in the end, the average investor made about 5-10% on his money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: yes BUT I did so with permission of early investors
Diablo-D3: infact, the idea came from one of them
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: what did you change it to?
thestringpuller: I'm not here to pass and judgement I just want the truth :P
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: can I pm you about the article I am writing on you?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: just add the part where I bought half the shares back at market value, which was higher than what people originally bought the shares for
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: happened shortly before the glbse shutdown
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: well, the end of the story so far is what I just told mircea_popescu
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: nefario shut glbse down, investors have to sit and wait until everything gets sorted out
Diablo-D3: I dunno why eskimobob keeps trying to attack me on this shit
Diablo-D3: its not like I have any beef with him
Diablo-D3: hes just annoying cunt at times, but thats about it
Diablo-D3: hes not a major dmc investor, and he bought shares at their lowest price as well
Diablo-D3: so when shit gets going again, hes probably going to make a profit
Diablo-D3: I mean like, both me and him agree usagi is a fucking asshole and an unstable one at that
Diablo-D3: so its not like we cant see eye to eye on shit
thestringpuller: and you're going to keep me from getting my money by causing usagi to commit suicide before i get paid
pigeons: burnside talked him down from the edge
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: hey man, I want usagi to be legit
Diablo-D3: he could be an asset to the community if he'd quit fucking around
pigeons: no he's no potential asset to the community
pigeons: other than as a cautionary tale
pigeons: on not letting your kids eat lead paint
Diablo-D3: all he has to do is dress up in that cute schoolgirl outfit he has from time to time
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you need to correct something else too
Diablo-D3: no, it was just obsi's pirate passthrough
Diablo-D3: obsi.1mhs and obsi.abmo paid out in full
pigeons: obsi claimed it was not a pirate passthrough
pigeons: but he claimed it was to different "sekrit" investments
Diablo-D3: and obsi hasnt defaulted on it yet either
Diablo-D3: hes still holding the door open in case pirate comes clean
pigeons: no he hasn't defaulted on it
mircea_popescu: imo the small ones that paid out in full pretty much worked as a prop
pigeons: because the contract says he invests in random crap that may never pay
Namjies: You might have a hard time keeping that 5-10% profit true, Diablo
pigeons: it was not claimed to be a pirate passthrough, you can look it up
Diablo-D3: Namjies: well, for the 10k, its already true and set in stone
Namjies: I'm reffering to BTC-MINING
Diablo-D3: Namjies: remember, most of them were sold to secure asicminer shares
Namjies: That might be a complete loss if amazingrando just disappears.
Diablo-D3: yeah, but you're not my largest asset
Diablo-D3: and if I just use my own money to buy back shares, it doesnt matter either way
Namjies: Might still wipe that 5% profit isn't it?
Diablo-D3: it depends entirely on the market, for one
Diablo-D3: I cant buy back shares for more than what people sell them for
Namjies: Hopefully he's just away. He's been busy ever since GLBSE closed down. I fear wishful thinking won't be of any help unfortunatly.
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: markets dont work that way
Namjies: of course it can still change based on market
Diablo-D3: Namjies: remember profit is not how well the company performs at this point
Diablo-D3: Namjies: its how much money originally went in to sell the shares, and how much money went out to buy the shares back
Diablo-D3: Namjies: as it stands, more went out then went in
Namjies: Ah, all is well then I guess.
Diablo-D3: even if I just sell them to myself as the last act of DMC 1.0, they get sold last.
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: I could be renting racks out for $20-30k a month. It would not cost even a fraction of that to maintain them.
Diablo-D3: something the community failed to generate.
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: when I said this was a million dollar plan, I wasnt kidding.
Diablo-D3: instead, they kept throwing it at shit that was an obvious scam from day one
Diablo-D3: thestringpuller: hes free to invest in 2.0 though
Diablo-D3: I think he'd like the way Im doing that
Diablo-D3: no more fucking shares, only real world straight across the board VC style funding
thestringpuller: that's what he's made off the last block of shares for MPOE
Diablo-D3: I dont even know if any of that is true
Diablo-D3: yes, but are the numbers real? we dont know
Diablo-D3: I thought about running an exchange once
Diablo-D3: and doing exactly that to generate interest on the exchange
Diablo-D3: I decided not to because that'd be unethical
Diablo-D3: but it also means that other people most likely have thought the same idea
smickles: I think "zaat" is "what's that?"
smickles: also we don't really participate in that any more than receiving gifts which people insist on giving us despite us saying not to
Diablo-D3: smickles: meh, Ive gone that route
Namjies: thestringpuller 75764 BTC? That's not possible.
smickles: I like to convert it all to cash and donate it to NASA
smickles: "it all" being the received gifts
Namjies: and SatoshiDice sold 7 million x at a minimum 0.0032 BTC per share... 22400 BTC minimum or over 250k USD
smickles: I say, if you want to celebrate somethin, let it be the advancement of mankind, not "the holidays"
Namjies: That is real numbers for sure.
smickles: thestringpuller: I may this year
smickles: I'm not sure if they accept donations tho
Namjies: I'd be surprised Evoorhees would lie/not complain.
thestringpuller: Musk said he wanted to wait until he had the cashflow to payback all initial investors
Diablo-D3: they just had their first positive quarter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062 = 6.138 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Namjies: why did you go with btct.co instead of bitfunder?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44450 @ 0.00062 = 27.559 BTC [+]
Namjies: Because of past history with litecoinglobal.com?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14408 @ 0.00062 = 8.933 BTC [+]
Namjies: Please great features to top it.
Namjies: Well cryptostocks is... well bad...
Namjies: bitfunder is new but good features.
Namjies: btct.co has past history and great features...
Diablo-D3: bitfunder has limited slots to pay 10btc to glbse assets
Namjies: I would have chosen MPEx first but I don't qualify I believe in volume or quality =P
Namjies: Except maybe BTC-BOND for quality...
pigeons: what do you mean btct.co has past history?
pigeons: oh past history with litecoinglobal i see
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062 = 1.798 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00062 = 7.409 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00062 = 1.922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]
pigeons: thestringpuller: well Diablo-D3 wouldn't be suprised if that one person is mircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11364 @ 0.00062 = 7.0457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11744 @ 0.00062 = 7.2813 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00062 = 25.296 BTC [+]
pigeons: probably doesn't need to be protected by so much plastic ;)
Diablo-D3: the bill is worth more than the face value
pigeons: well they ain't makin' any more of 'em
pigeons: however, there are plenty to go around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11946 @ 0.00062 = 7.4065 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: just for the absolute absurdity of it
Diablo-D3: I wouldnt mind having one framed on my wall
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11588 @ 0.00062 = 7.1846 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062 = 8.06 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42998, Best ask: 13.42999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.42998, 24 hour volume: 16577.37893915, 24 hour low: 13.21800, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38007
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20269 @ 0.00062 = 12.5668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10953 @ 0.00062 = 6.7909 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062 = 6.138 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00062 = 1.581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00353532 = 1.0606 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00062 = 4.5006 BTC [+]
pigeons: i think usagi is just still weak from the rum-induced stomach flu and will be back again
thestringpuller: pigeons: Fairy god-mother bernanke is gonna print him some money to cover his debts from what I've heard
thestringpuller: But srsly, looks like I may have to write off some things.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062 = 1.178 BTC [+]
pigeons: no as soon as he stops faking the numbers its over
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.38126, Best ask: 13.42958, Bid-ask spread: 0.04832, Last trade: 13.38002, 24 hour volume: 15154.09689906, 24 hour low: 13.21800, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38310
kakobrekla: he is faking the current gox price duh
pigeons: i was referring to Diablo-D3's thoughts from earlier today
thestringpuller: Then why wouldn't he forge the bondholder statements for August?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00062 = 8.866 BTC [+]
pigeons: he mentioned that mircea_popescu doesn't have any money, someone pointed out what was coming itjust from s.mpoe sales recently, and Diablo-D3 mentioned that we don't have verification of those numbers, and in fact Diablo-D3 had considered starting an exchange and faking activity
pigeons: but he is faking the gox price too
pigeons: i don't believe that. you know Diablo-D3, that's just how he thinks
thestringpuller: Diablo-D3 based on based on current standards is less trustworthy than mircea_popescu
pigeons: i'm saying he's the only person mentioning fake numbers, so when i mention it i am teasing Diablo-D3
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42920, Best ask: 13.42980, Bid-ask spread: 0.00060, Last trade: 13.42980, 24 hour volume: 15183.54987991, 24 hour low: 13.21800, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38328
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062 = 1.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 3 @ 0.0550204 = 0.1651 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062 = 8.618 BTC [+]
pigeons: i do not believe that mircea_popescu is faking anything
smickles: unsolicited, I don't believe that mircea_popescu is faking anything (60% confidence livel)
pigeons: i think he really is that annoying, its not fake
thestringpuller: pigeons: "i think he really is that annoying" << who is he?
pigeons: nevermind, it was a bad joke, no worries
smickles: pigeons: was that a lesswrong refrence?
smickles: like, the guy who wrote 'harry potter and the methods of rationality'?
pigeons: no any references are purely coincidental
assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13821 @ 0.00062 = 8.569 BTC [+]
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 minutes and 17 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> !ticker X.IDIFF.DEC
Bugpowder: hmm S.DICE whales still going at it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10386 @ 0.00062 = 6.4393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00062 = 5.8082 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: 77,000 BTC bet, 2500BTC S.DICE profit
Bugpowder: Every employee at spaceX still has to be personally approved by musk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00062 = 3.689 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4471 @ 0.00062 = 2.772 BTC [+]
gribble: Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 35 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Ukto> I stated quite clearly that 'some buttons were pressed on my side'. How he wishes to interpret that is up to him.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10082 @ 0.00062 = 6.2508 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062 = 9.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14538 @ 0.00064 = 9.3043 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00064 = 7.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00354404 = 2.8352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00064 = 3.328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00064 = 6.464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00064 = 2.912 BTC [+]
markedathome: It is Christmas Day. Good news, I don't have to work. Bad news, I don't get paid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
markedathome: dunno, I might then be committed for hearing voices?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064 = 1.792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4104 @ 0.00064 = 2.6266 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18634 @ 0.00064 = 11.9258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1665 @ 0.00064 = 1.0656 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00064 = 5.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2213 @ 0.00064 = 1.4163 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6407 @ 0.00064 = 4.1005 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00064 = 1.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00064 = 0.384 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00354059 = 17.703 BTC [-]
pigeons: nethead, Roger Ver's nemesis, has this forum sig: Disclaimer: Do not sent any coins by mistake, i will keep them.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064 = 7.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17107 @ 0.00064 = 10.9485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00064 = 3.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7155 @ 0.00064 = 4.5792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7636 @ 0.00064 = 4.887 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15452 @ 0.00064 = 9.8893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00064 = 11.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.09871751 = 98.7175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.04991307 = 49.9131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1000 @ 0.02201012 = 22.0101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.17407439 = 174.0744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1545 @ 0.00064 = 0.9888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30931, Best ask: 13.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04069, Last trade: 13.30931, 24 hour volume: 15246.85529519, 24 hour low: 13.14000, 24 hour high: 13.45000, 24 hour vwap: 13.34425
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00064 = 22.592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 820 @ 0.24943126 = 204.5336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00064 = 3.3606 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00064 = 25.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14522 @ 0.00064 = 9.2941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00064 = 1.28 BTC [+]
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smickles: thestringpuller: I hope you enjoy your holiday :)
smickles: heh, yeah, not likely to 'win the war' today
smickles: it's shapped up to be the largest drop in history
assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
markedathome: there are more for mar and jun, 20, 170 respectively
PsychoticBoy: are there European People that send Personal information to lets say gigavps?
PsychoticBoy: BEWARE: according to European law, We (European citizens) may not transfer our ID (our a copy of it) to a third party (Outside the EU, like gigavps lawyer)!!
PsychoticBoy: Here is a list of countries which by law are not allowed to send their ID to third parties (Countries outside the EU)
PsychoticBoy: so DONT send your personal info, It can be used for Identity theft
PsychoticBoy: Asking for your ID etc is a CRIMINAL action according to the EU law
PsychoticBoy: true this info comes fr4om the Dutch Law institute, I called them
PsychoticBoy: should be the same, dont send info to gox either unless they are EU company
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00064 = 1.2173 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: So in short, you are all (if EU citizen) in the right to not send him (gigavps or his so called lawyer) anything. You can evemn sue him because of this action
PsychoticBoy: To get him sued, ed start a lawsuit against him this will cost 700euro initial (we wont get it back if we lose the case)
PsychoticBoy: but I am prepared to pay this out of my own pocket
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00064 = 8.832 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: So if anyone is intrested in buying 117 Gigamining shares, let me know
jurov: psychoticboy, did they said exact name of the law?
jurov: and why would eu-based companies be exempt?
PsychoticBoy: hmmmn they probably did, but I was too upset/angry/mad or how you will call it, I have to call them back and let them send it too me by mail. for proof
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00064 = 5.76 BTC [+]
jurov: sorry we're unable to find teh document
PsychoticBoy: I explained the whole story to the lawyer/judge I talked with and they told me this: Dont send your ID to a non EU country registred company
PsychoticBoy: I said it was a person, then they said dont send data EVER!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6220 @ 0.00064 = 3.9808 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: cause the chance for identity theft is big+ it is a illigal action
PsychoticBoy: but I am going to my christmas dinner, see you guys later
markedathome: jurov: sorry, googled "european union distribution outside of personal documents" and 4th down. used the quick view link - didn't realise it was user specific
jurov: indeed it's dangerous to give anyone your ID number and illegal for third parties to process it
jurov: and usually ID card have it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25482 @ 0.00064 = 16.3085 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00064 = 6.336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: PsychoticBoy : how much will you sell gigamining shares for?
Bugpowder: I have yet to send in my AML data but will soon. Would be willing to pick some shares up at a reasonable price.
pigeons: rate stealth222 2 trust his code
pigeons: ;;rate stealth222 2 trust his code
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user stealth222 has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064 = 0.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00064 = 5.856 BTC [+]
jurov: lol that change several times yet
jurov: with all these whales
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064 = 2.496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00064 = 5.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00064 = 8.064 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00064 = 1.7325 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064 = 1.824 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: <Bugpowder> PsychoticBoy : how much will you sell gigamining shares for? 0.2 btc
JWU42: PsychoticBoy: thought you couldn't sell them
JWU42: wow - good timing giga
gigavps: stuffed from Christmas dinner
JWU42: laying on couch with laptop propped on distended belly ;)
gigavps: too many cookies, my mother makes some pretty awesome cookies
JWU42: hmm PsychoticBoy was around a bit ago talking about GIGAMINING
JWU42: not sure where he went
gigavps: well, selling gigamining since the close of glbse will most likely void any claim
JWU42: OK - that clarifies
gigavps: one of the huge reasons GLBSE closed was because they had no idea who their customers were
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00064 = 6.72 BTC [+]
gigavps: and they were supposed to be reporting gains/loses
gigavps: all of the new exchange will have the same problems
gigavps: i've read the TOS for some of the sites, and treating the exchange as a "experiment/learning" will not keep them out of court when the government comes calling
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2010 @ 0.00064 = 1.2864 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: I think I will get giga into court, I contacted O Hammerstein, my lawyer, and he wants action
PsychoticBoy: yes it is one of the best lawyers in The Netherlands (and expensive) but he is like a pitbull
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 774 @ 0.00354059 = 2.7404 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8728 @ 0.00064 = 5.5859 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00345868 = 1.7293 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: I am sick of people who make their own rules, Bitcoin is a semi annonymous coin traded in a free market
PsychoticBoy: He did not need my ID or such when I took my coins
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: man I wish dmc could afford a lawyer
PsychoticBoy: Now when things are getting ugly, he goes by the law etc F
thestringpuller: PsychoticBoy: I think I missed something. What did gigia exactly do?
PsychoticBoy: allthough I only own 117 Giga shares, does not mean I have to let ppl walk over me
PsychoticBoy: For real persons: a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, or, for corporations the document number and issuing jurisdiction of the incorporating charter and proof of current good standing.
PsychoticBoy: An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction. Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices.
PsychoticBoy: he is no EU company If he does own a company that is registred
PsychoticBoy: I dont mind payoing 1000euro for a lawyer to get him hanged
Diablo-D3: why are we tagging giga as a scammer?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15157 @ 0.00064 = 9.7005 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: has giga even done anything wrong yet?
PsychoticBoy: its only not a reasonable thing to do, ask for ppl personal data
PsychoticBoy: He wont get another btc from me as he already took more than 70 BTC (117 shares)
Diablo-D3: what, hes not buying the shares back?
PsychoticBoy: no You can claim be sending your ID, address etc and an affidavit
Diablo-D3: I wonder if his lawyer told him to do that
Diablo-D3: his lawyer knows more about this shit than any of us do
Diablo-D3: just another reason to excommunicate nefario, imo
PsychoticBoy: I have the feeling he just want his ass covered by a lawyer and not pay out shareholders
Diablo-D3: he may have actually violated the law somewhere
markedathome: thestringpuller: they have the right to request liquidation through a motion if that is allowed in the contract
PsychoticBoy: I talked with an lawyer here in Holland and he told me what gigavps or his lawyer is doing is in opposition to
PsychoticBoy: but as EU citizen I am not allowed to send him my details if I wanted that
Diablo-D3: if he is incorporated in a state that requires a list of all shareholders to be published
Diablo-D3: and yes, that actually IS such a thing
PsychoticBoy: He is playing by the rules (like he said) But if I am playing by the rules (Dutch/EU law) I get fucked hmmmn that can not be possible
pigeons: haha of course its possible
pigeons: us law and us law do not always ive
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: problem is, you fucked yourself when you invested in an american company
Diablo-D3: thats neither a good or a bad thing. its a statement of fact.
PsychoticBoy: so in otherwords this is a shitty situation for me, I am pushed into a cornerr
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: why not just comply with his request?
Diablo-D3: if his lawyer has advised him to comply with US laws, then the government is the one that made the rules, not him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00064 = 8.48 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: I own 2 shares of gigamining the other 115 shares are owned by FDBF so its a loss for investors if I dont do what giga said but its a matter of principle
Diablo-D3: then register fdbf as a company, then claim and pay out to your shareholders and then dissolve the company
PsychoticBoy: registering a company here in The Netherlands will cost me so NO
pigeons: investors who trusted you to look after their interests
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00064 = 9.44 BTC [+]
pigeons: so you lose their goodwill
Diablo-D3: and you may end up getting scammertagged on the forums as well
PsychoticBoy: I will not get tagged for not sending personal details, theymos already told me that
PsychoticBoy: so if the shares will not be claimed by me by sending personal data then its poof gone
Diablo-D3: find out how much it'll cost to register the company
Diablo-D3: if its more than the 117 shares are worth, I wouldnt do it either
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: thats why you form the company
Diablo-D3: you send him the corporate details
pigeons: I WANNA LOSE MONEY, ITS THE PRINCIPAL
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: you want to make this as hard as possible for giga
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1837 @ 0.00064 = 1.1757 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: no not really I offerd him to just pay me 0.1 btc per share and be done with it
PsychoticBoy: I will not send my personal data to a stranger
Diablo-D3: nope, its the fdbf corporate identity.
Diablo-D3: there are ways under EU law to hide the personal data of corporate officers.
PsychoticBoy: But the main thing is, sending personal data to claim, wtf
Diablo-D3: I already explained that one to you
Diablo-D3: its required by law in some states
Diablo-D3: all shareholders must be known to the state
PsychoticBoy: I know, at some point I can understand it, but but but
Diablo-D3: if hes following the law, then thats it
PsychoticBoy: Yeah but if I follow the law, then I am not able to send my data if I wish
Diablo-D3: I really doubt EU law wont let you claim an investment in a foreign company
PsychoticBoy: gigavps does not have a registred company that fits EU regulations
Diablo-D3: then request to giga that he does.
Diablo-D3: [06:53:20] <Diablo-D3> then request to giga that he does.
PsychoticBoy: It will cost him some time and money and maybe even a company change of activities so I doubt giga will do that
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place
Diablo-D3: so dont think you magically get out of this by not claiming
PsychoticBoy: You can buy mine, Ill give the email address and btcaddress and even the btc privatekey if you buy my shares
PsychoticBoy: <Diablo-D3> PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place << I probably did
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PsychoticBoy: Ok I will think things over, but I am most certain that all my gigamining shares must be counted as a loss
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Batteryfire!~solomonch@c-76-97-22-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net . User batteryfire, rated since Sun Dec 23 14:04:14 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=batteryfire PsychoticBoy: It is still not worth any possible identity theft etc
PsychoticBoy: good night all I am going to bed, have a very nice Christmas
pigeons: on the internet nobody knows you're a pigeon
pigeons: haha no, but i've been there ;)
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thestringpuller: ;;later tell PsychoticBoy perhaps you should file a case with the mpex court
pigeons: its a good idea, but i would guess giga wouldn't agree, he would seem to have more to lose
pigeons: i was thinking about only PB filing a complaint, but yes if there were a large number he would be more likely to need to address it
thestringpuller: cause ultimately if giga doesn't comply and PB has a good case giga will get labeled a scammer via WoT? or what are the other repurcussions of "non-compliance" to the judge's ruling
pigeons: i'm not sure, i think the defendent has to agree to the proceedings before they are heard
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1327 @ 0.00064 = 0.8493 BTC [+]
pigeons: also note the claim needs to be for over 100 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
Graet: yeah. by the time i fuck around and pay for stuff to send and the other fuckery..... i consider my gigamining bonds another rip off.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00064 = 4.576 BTC [+]
Graet: for someone that "only deals in bitcoins" it is not an acceptable solution
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064 = 0.832 BTC [+]
Graet: i need to convert bitcoin to fiat to pay for servers, but i pay miners on my pool in bitcoin yes
Graet: thyat was quoting giga
thestringpuller: we should get people to pull their money out of giga and put them into your pool ;)
Graet: um, ppl mine with gpus and f[gas atm, not reall an aption to "put money inb"
Graet: ozcoin.net if you arent aware :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00064 = 0.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00064 = 6.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles nope i have not. the values themselves aren't strictly fixed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00355774 = 5.3366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00064 = 4.192 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064 = 3.296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: so you think cities < village coz anonymity is hindrence for information?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9644 @ 0.00064 = 6.1722 BTC [+]
jurov: imho he did not meant that villages are better. just that cities are just considered unstable due to that information problem
jurov: i found it interesting, but rather one-sided consideration
jurov: it's not just goat stealers who find unbearable these "social mores" and impossibility to choose people you want to interact with
jurov: these greek cities were such...when you were expunged ("ostracised" word was born there) = social death. not sure if it's so much desirable
FabianB: yeah, i think of cities more of statistical stability by mass
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9492 @ 0.00064 = 6.0749 BTC [+]
FabianB: if i need to find that _one_ goat, of course the information in a village to find it is cheaper
FabianB: but if i want to find _any_ goat cheese, it's more likely i find one in a city (the village has goat farmers or it doesn't)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00064 = 7.168 BTC [+]
FabianB: as city person i'm not interested in a goat, only in it's cheese or meat
pigeons: Diablo-D3: there is another option besides bfl being a long con and bfl shipping, and that's bfl doesn't ship cause they fail and suck and design, production, logistics, management, etc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00064 = 2.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.00064 = 20.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00064 = 3.1494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00064 = 8.224 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45570 @ 0.00064 = 29.1648 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11054 @ 0.00064 = 7.0746 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00064 = 5.344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 697 @ 0.00064 = 0.4461 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [09:11:46] <Morblias> lol Diablo-D3. I love Josh's post. 'all rational people base their opinions on evidence' yet they give us 0 evidence ASICs exist. So therefore we can't have any opinions on BFL according to Josh?
Diablo-D3: [05:51:03] <EskimoBob> "Diablo-D3 | he cant payout to shareholders -- that would be illegal" - LOL, in this case he broke the law when he SOLD the shares for start and the circus he is running now... pff... is ugly and only to benefit himself
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: yes, it would be illegal to have sold them to begin with
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: it would have been the intention of not telling the government who his shareholders are that would make it illegal, btw
gigavps: Diablo-D3 they don't have to give info, they have ppl's money
Diablo-D3: gigavps: no, in some states you have to tell the state who owns part of the company
Bugpowder: gigavps Is there any way for me to buy shares of gigamining off of people who don't want to send in their AML stuff to you?
Diablo-D3: gigavps: its technically for partners, but unlisted privately held shares are the same for those states
gigavps: Bugpowder if i do that, i'm out of business
gigavps: i'd need to register with all the three letter acros
gigavps: would cost a whole boat load of $$$$
Bugpowder: hmm... ok. so I can only claim my own shares then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11179 @ 0.00064 = 7.1546 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12160 @ 0.00064 = 7.7824 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8116 @ 0.00064 = 5.1942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064 = 2.688 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1958 @ 0.00349579 = 6.8448 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39400 @ 0.00064 = 25.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00064 = 6.304 BTC [+]
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00064 = 2.976 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I guess thats the end of bitcointalk
Diablo-D3: so, if someone dox the entire BFL staff and their close family, well, I wont be able to stop that
Diablo-D3: why else would he want the hardware forum's front page all bfl threads
Diablo-D3: yeah, I think that day I threw all the bfl threads in offtopic was the most mod actions ever.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03968734 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.02400107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.01359389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064 = 5.184 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: welp, we now know who the enemies of the community are
Diablo-D3: and guess what, I outrank theymos in bitcoin deity status
JWU_42: the 9 months of clouds...
Diablo-D3: I wonder why theymos sided with the scammers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12672 @ 0.00064 = 8.1101 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13236 @ 0.00064 = 8.471 BTC [+]
jurov: bitcoin deity status - wtf?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: say moo, then ha ha, ha ha, ha ha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10464 @ 0.00064 = 6.697 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: well, its more of a muah
jurov: Diablo-D3, how so?
Diablo-D3: jurov: one of the first 100 users, wrote diablominer, brought the most people into the community, etc etc
jurov: meh. i could have been there too. remember trying some early version of bicoin-qt, it did not work.
jurov: i gave up and forgot till 2011
Diablo-D3: lol, bitcoin-qt didnt even exist yet
jurov: it's all mostly chance
gribble: Error: "ub" is not a valid command.
jurov: quite an oxymoron you got there
jurov: ofc i forgot, bitcoin gods have 55lbs barrels of lube handy
jurov: no, 55 gallon drums more exactly
pigeons: so i got emails from btct that usagi had created assets for CPA and NYAN but their gone
pigeons: oops looking wrong place there they are
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00064 = 29.568 BTC [+]
jurov: so bitcoin tabloid has new site...
jurov: and all old comments happen to be wiped
jurov: no, there's one dated dec 25 2012.. from vitalik buterin? didn't they get rid of him?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03956962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0232923 BTC [-]
jurov: I believe that rewards based social media is the next logical step in this fascinating evolution of human interaction.
jurov: oh my. kill with fire
jurov: I believe that the Arab Spring is just the beginning of this social “awakening” that we are witnessing world wide. I believe that every single dictator in power today will not be there in 10 years’ time.
jurov: mircea_popescu: truly something for both you and the girl to get hives from
Diablo-D3: and then bitfunder said "usagi isnt opening here, hes opening at btct"
Diablo-D3: then usagi said "wtf, you stabbed me in the back, ukto is a spy!"
Diablo-D3: and then ukto said "yes, my little cauliflower, I am the best spy that ever lived."
jurov: isn't the forum stuff making your throat stiff and dry?
jurov: oh yes, you use the lube
Diablo-D3: medic, eh, he say not drink so much beer, bad for liver, what would medic know, eh? he is only german.
jurov: and you are? czech?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00064 = 4.0614 BTC [+]
jurov: nuclear paper tiger
jurov: russians should make love, not booze
pigeons: then usagi said, "the illuminati who shut nefario down have threatened ukto, cause why else could ukto possible refuse to be associated with the great and terrible usagi?"
jurov: Grace of almighty above and his sexy virgin, have mercy with that poor soul.
pigeons: i saw jurov kissing santa claus
kakobrekla: May our Lord Jesus Christ wash this earth with His holy light and purge its darkest places from heathens and philistines.
pigeons: "And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes."
kakobrekla: i just pasted a quote from dead man, seemed apropriate
kakobrekla: if you havent seen that move (anyone really)... go watch it
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gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ident
jurov: smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code
jurov: thestringpuller, iirc you wanted to have some api?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064 = 1.792 BTC [+]
jurov: must add key auth then, i guess you don't want to mess with cookies
jurov: i have maybe 10 branches in git of various functions.... and as i know myself, i'll finish most of them at once. madness
smickles: < jurov> smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code <<< heh, actually, it took me about 20 min to write the code while taking care of my daughter and then a few hours trying to figure out why you thought it was so difficult
smickles: actually, I said that for humor. It would be more accurate to say that I figured we had different goals
smickles: my code does what I want it to do, I'm sure your code does what you want it to do
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00349579 / 0.00352604 / 0.00355774 (7437 shares, 26.22 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0030785 / 0.0037 (8872282 shares, 27,313.38 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00064 / 0.00064 / 0.00064 (656012 shares, 419.85 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.0005583 / 0.00064 (81022468 shares, 45,234.99 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00064 = 5.568 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10486 @ 0.00064 = 6.711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10153 @ 0.00064 = 6.4979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00064 = 5.431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00064 = 11.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1026 @ 0.00064 = 0.6566 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu What's max pain for btc OpEx this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4269 @ 0.00064 = 2.7322 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, I could imagine it being a difficult number to look at often
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.00064 = 0.8634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9825 @ 0.00064 = 6.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2540 @ 0.00064 = 1.6256 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44991, Best ask: 13.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.44991, 24 hour volume: 17358.44862787, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.35560
smickles: lol, somehow, i'm reminded of this girl in my highschool year, sara campen, she changed her name, legally, from what her parents named her (she already went by sara in defiance of them until she turned 18)
smickles: heh, I'm not out to destroy mpoebot
smickles: I wouoldn't mind thousands of btc per month or something like that.
smickles: i'd be the new mircea_popescu :D
smickles: meh, then it wouldn't be my thousands of btc
smickles: really, this market maker bot is an elaborate mission to taste real whiskey
smickles: i think the majority of my daughter's future tuition is my wife's motgomery gi bill
smickles: I dunno, I suppose I need to define the outcome :|
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0205393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00064 = 5.7222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00064 = 6.5741 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1day: 0.03956962 / 0.0413564 / 0.04481226 (3 shares, 0.12 BTC), 30day: 0.03956962 / 0.14250577 / 0.20783398 (12077 shares, 1,721.04 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00064 = 5.408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00064 = 6.464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00354391 = 1.5948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00064 = 5.6397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064 = 2.496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00064 = 5.92 BTC [+]
Ukto: Diablo-D3, pigeons: lol
Diablo-D3: hrm, if ukto has dead ringer, does that mean ukto is now the little girl?
Ukto: cute little girls.. the most dangerous weapons in teh world
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00064 = 12.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064 = 2.592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064 = 13.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00064 = 0.576 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45848, Best ask: 13.45882, Bid-ask spread: 0.00034, Last trade: 13.45848, 24 hour volume: 20579.82684084, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.37609
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7057 @ 0.00064 = 4.5165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00064 = 24.832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064 = 5.088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12914 @ 0.00064 = 8.265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4149 @ 0.00064 = 2.6554 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00064 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00064 = 7.872 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3038 @ 0.00064 = 1.9443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064 = 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00358469 = 0.086 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.28885, Best ask: 13.38625, Bid-ask spread: 0.09740, Last trade: 13.26462, 24 hour volume: 20206.19504333, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39122
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00064 = 4.5773 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.38451, Best ask: 13.39286, Bid-ask spread: 0.00835, Last trade: 13.39286, 24 hour volume: 19951.43758602, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39346
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00064 = 0.9024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00064 = 5.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00064 = 3.488 BTC [+]
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 18 hours, 15 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <mod6> \o/
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <smickles> i'll need a mentor!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00064 = 7.584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28359 @ 0.00064 = 18.1498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00064 = 16.096 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea, that's more like phat pipe
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you should a BCCAPI server for mod6 and I for mpex users
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00064 = 17.504 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: So if max pain is 13 and change, this should be a good month for MPOE no?
Bugpowder: I assume most of the MPOE holdings are short calls and puts?
jurov: Bugpowder, you trading dow futures in btc somewhere?
Bugpowder: the trouble with these BTC futures is that BTC/USD is the primary source of volitility
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00355333 = 6.5737 BTC [-]
jurov: isn't anyone trying to arbutrage 1broker.com ?
jurov: btc futures trading, done by some austrian student
smickles: 17:30 < mircea_popescu> volAtility omg <<< lil
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00064 = 8.96 BTC [+]
jurov: hard to say.. maybe it's like kakobrekla's forex thing
Bugpowder: how the f has this been the lead story on yahoo finance all morning
Bugpowder: One analyst saying. watch out! they have tricks of their sleeve!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00064 = 3.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4904 @ 0.00064 = 3.1386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00064 = 17.312 BTC [+]
gigavps: he's not making much sense
jcpham: well it's from bitcointalk.org first of all
jcpham: it's pretty clear gigavps
jcpham: you started talking about virgins and now everyone thinks you are a muslim
jcpham: coming soon: scammer terrorist tag
gigavps: i just want to know if ppl like vigin coins
gigavps: before i go sink 200+ hours into development
gigavps: but i guess i attract all of the crazies
jcpham: time for gigavps-sock account
gigavps: i have my first employee starting on Jan 2
jcpham: and she's mildly attractive
jcpham: and she really tells everyone to fuck off on the forum
gigavps: well, my wife is on the payroll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00064 = 3.776 BTC [+]
jurov: i don't get whole thing... you want to launder coins by means of own mining pool?
jcpham: at the expense of looking credible herself
gigavps: but she doesn't do anything with the business
jcpham: of course nothing like that currently exists
jurov: as in, ppl send txs with large fees exclusively to you, then when you mine a block, lo and behold, virgins
gigavps: you can also mine coins directly to paper wallets
gigavps: so the private keys can be mailed to ppl
jcpham: especially if it relied on like a print command that failed
jcpham: and the coins were lost
gigavps: paper wallets would be printed BEFORE HAND
jcpham: nah i say mine blocks directly to line feed printer
jurov: so sending block fees to an addy requires its private key?
gigavps: mining pools can use "tracker" addresses
gigavps: or like eligius, mine a portion of coins directly to a wallet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+]
jurov: gigavps, then no mailing necessary... ppl just send securely the txs with oversized fees, get back virgins to source address
gigavps: that is a possiblity if you are only accepting coins in payment
gigavps: but what if you want to accept bank wire, cc, etc
gigavps: you need to follow meatspace rulz
gigavps: aka, mailing something to a verified address
jurov: um i don't get it... accepting bank wire/cc anonymously looks like much bigger hurdle than transferring private keys securely
gigavps: well, accepting meatspace wouldn't be annon
jurov: actually it is has the same risks as sending cash by mail... except that receiver won't be aware someone copied the key en route
jurov: and blaming everything on you
gigavps: ooo, just made post 2100 to smack SAC upside the head
gigavps: i guess his rage is confusing him
jurov: sac, the block purity protector
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13247 @ 0.00064 = 8.4781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2346 @ 0.00064 = 1.5014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00064 = 4.5382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00064 = 7.072 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: im just wrappin up math of my kv1 fund, up 20.6% after the fees in first month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00354228 = 4.605 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00352003 = 5.28 BTC [-]
smickles: hmm, mircea_popescu does this mean you'll publish the options maturity number too ?
smickles: Or have I just not know where you put it this whole time
mircea_popescu: dioes the fact that i publish btc settlement values for futures mean that i will also publish btc settlement values for options ? yes, it does.
smickles: "this" being the fact that you published unrelated information of the futures :P
mircea_popescu: but i thought what you meant was, volumes, as in "x contracts"
mircea_popescu: which, you know, "Total 114763 of which Call, -20011 +20338 Put"
smickles: what I'm curious about was what you read from bitcoincharts as the average at maturity
smickles: it's a pain to look that up retrospectively
mircea_popescu: "2. A better reset is this un-documented procedure, used by beta tester ( I was on the FVS338). Is hold the reset button for 20 sec, pull the power while still holding the reset button for 20 sec, then power up still holding the reset for 20 sec. Then release the reset button."
mircea_popescu: lol. any sufficently advanced technology will be treated as magic.
smickles: "undocumented magic" sound like something illegal in 'merica
thestringpuller: sounds like eleves working in your basement as slaves who are also illegally ommigrated
smickles: damn, I wish I measured the temp which i brewed this coffee at :/
smickles: it tastes so much better today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8865 @ 0.00064 = 5.6736 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: kakobrekla, 15 euro profit. NOICE.
mircea_popescu: dumbass romanians only getting online to download xmas greetings.
jurov: lol, we shouldn't trade futures between ourselves.. we'll get to hate each other
smickles: I follow JP_Jackson's strategy
kakobrekla: i write bots with enky, kv1 is the first prototype, it uses kalman filtered velocity as a main indicator
kakobrekla: new ones commin out as soon as i get rid of mp breating behind my back ;>
kakobrekla: audnzd cadjpy gbpjpy eurusd at the moment
Bugpowder: ok. So where do bitcoins come into play?
kakobrekla: forex account is denominated in bitcoin
Bugpowder: Do you have to exchange to fiat and back to trade the pairs??
kakobrekla: no other fees, no swap, no tax no nothing
kakobrekla: you can get institutional acc with 500btc+ with a fraction of that spread but some other fees come into play there
Bugpowder: kakobrekla what is the fee structure for kv1? what is the leverage used?
pizzaman1337: This should clear automatically in 2-3 business days in most cases. We apologize for any inconvenience." for almost 2 weeks now.
smickles: heh, i'm glad noone actually took the bet. pizzaman1337 I should hope you'd recuse yourself from betting, as it was you who had the answer ;)
kakobrekla: Bugpowder, 1:500 but that high its not needed, theres max of 0.4 lots that it can open with 4 pairs now so it wont overtrade, fee is 20% of the profits because its a highly maintained system (closing trades are mostly manualy)
Bugpowder: what about losing months, is there a fee? Are previous month's losses subtracted from subsequent month's gains prior to calculating the performance fee?
smickles: betting is an interesting way of outting the baysian mind. if you are 100% sure of something, then you should have absolutely no issue betting 100% of your money, in fact, you should have no issue doing that and borrowing more to bet as well. Point being, people tend to say (and self deludedly believe) they are 100% sure of something, yet would hesitate to risk all they own on a bet to that end
kakobrekla: fees are only on profits, for now profits are paid out monthly, after a few months we will go with a closed fund probably, paying out monthly profits is not a wise idea in the first place but with much fluctuation now i dont have much choice
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03464639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00064 = 2.272 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.39889, Best ask: 13.39970, Bid-ask spread: 0.00081, Last trade: 13.39888, 24 hour volume: 20296.08468303, 24 hour low: 13.26355, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.40203
smickles: that C130T seems downright ballsy to me
smickles: if i'm correct, it breaks even at 13.475~
Bugpowder: kakobrekla Well.... 7 trades total? If your performance keeps up I may be interested.
smickles: we could see a 10 cent move in a day
smickles: and today's high on bitcoincharts shows 13.47 at that!
kakobrekla: then one was bad, and one was 0 cause we got cold feet, it would end up +20
Bugpowder: "we got cold feet" who is pulling the trigger, the software or a person?
kakobrekla: anyway, this is only the first version
kakobrekla: a result that would take a year before takes an hour now
kakobrekla: but shit need to be recoded then for mt4 unfortanetly :)
kakobrekla: anyway its tested on 4 years backtest or so
kakobrekla: had periods when it made little to nothing
Bugpowder: how do you backtest if a human pulls the trigger?
Bugpowder: right, but if you have a human pulling the trigger in the real implementation the backtest is not valide
kakobrekla: if i have a bot that will burn in 4 years
kakobrekla: well i gues it would depends on amount of trading
Bugpowder: market dynamics shift over many lengthscales
kakobrekla: if it will get through 4 years i dont expect it to blow in a month
Bugpowder: would be nice to see how it handles 07-08
kakobrekla: i could run a test if you are really that interested
kakobrekla: i guess at this point is best enky speaks as well.
Bugpowder: well let's defer this for a bit. Need to get back to wrok
Bugpowder: will be watching with interest though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064 = 2.112 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, it's probably interesting to see how any bot handles 07-08
smickles: kakobrekla: you should test your bot on usd/gbp years 29-30
smickles: damn, is there really no data from back then?
Bugpowder: "Stocks Pare Losses as House to Reconvene Sunday"
bonafide: hope you got enough for more than intraday holding
bonafide: I'm still tapping the jpy atm.. but getting out tmrw afternoon and taking gains
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
bonafide: fecal cliff wont steal my monies
Bugpowder: VOO (ETF); VFIAX (admiralty) VVIAX (admiralty) VBF (ETF); VISVX (regular); no exact admiralty VGPMX (regular); no admiralty VGENX (regular); VGELX (admiralty 100K) VGSIX (regular); VGSLX (admiralty) VWO (ETF); VEMAX (admiralty) VTIAX (admiralty) VTRIX (regular); no admiralty VWITX (regular); VWIUX (admiralty) VBIIX (regular); VBILX (admiralty) VIPSX (regular); VAIPX (admiralty for 50k) VBLTX (regular); no adm; VWLTX (
bonafide: I'm shuttin down my EUR/JPY positions and thinking of going long EUR/USD as a fecal cliff play
bonafide: the newly elected people in Japan got in, made their announcements
bonafide: but they don't get into office to actually set policy
Bugpowder: thestringpuller what is the evidence?
bonafide: I could stay long, but I like taking nice gains and reposition on the pullback
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Bugpowder: I think the verdict will be reduced
bonafide: MRVL is QCOM's direct competitor?
bonafide: I've been looking for a food equity
smickles: bad idea, obama is jesus, so nothing bad will happen to usd
bonafide: Obama does nothing for the dollar
bonafide: right now its a race between USD and JPY
smickles: thestringpuller: actually, 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
smickles: send btc there, it will help the wot
bonafide: it's not like I'm putting your money in harms way
smickles: it helps pay for the costs of running the wot
smickles: also, dev on v2 of the protocol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00064 = 0.6803 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: actually send to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp
pigeons: pigeons actually prefer meat
bonafide: I saw something on American Greed where some guy conned multi-millions from people by pitching the ideas that pigeons would soon replace chicken
pigeons: actually the native species of pigeon to north america went extinct cause it was overhunted overeaten, then when it was gone people settled for chicken
kakobrekla: flying rat (super powers) vs incapacitated bird (lame)
plate: pigeons: so what pigeons do we have now?
pigeons: the "pigeons" now in north america are escaped pet rock doves from europe
plate: they're fucking annoying
plate: they love mcdonalds
pigeons: A&P supermarket had a contest and the winner geneticly modified the hen to not have bloody meat so the jewish customers would eat it
pigeons: and that is what we eat today
plate: The jews always have their hands in everything
plate: Kosher Coke is good tho
plate: but that's just the real formula
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00064 = 7.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00064 = 7.552 BTC [+]
smickles: < pigeons> jews/aliens/gays < they're all reptoids anyway :|
pigeons: i meant the aryans that control the greys
pigeons: ;;google hillary clinton reptile eyes youtube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00064 = 112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00064 = 1.312 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41660, Best ask: 13.42967, Bid-ask spread: 0.01307, Last trade: 13.42967, 24 hour volume: 21857.94329942, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39289
Bugpowder: So who wants to bet on the S.MPOE dividend
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35550 @ 0.00064 = 22.752 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Do we know the yield on the MPOE bonds this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00064 = 16.576 BTC [+]
jurov: so you did pull these 25% this month?
jurov: i remember you making some mpbor-related threats to mircea
kakobrekla: oh and if anyone else is interested, kv1 is open for deposits till the 31st, 100btc min
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
jurov: anyway such bonds return could cause some last-minute rush for MPBPT. would be nice.
Bugpowder: what do you really think the bond rate will be?
smickles: well, unless the capital requirement is low this month
smickles: also, anyone whant to short s.mpoe?
smickles: thestringpuller: suppose people are buying it now expecting a large dividend, then receive next to nothing b/c the bondholders took it all
smickles: it's not released until settlement of the options
jurov: and that will be in 14hours
Bugpowder: well 110,000 contracts traded this month
thestringpuller: smickles: shareholders didnt get any reql dividends in nob
smickles: do you think there has been an increase in the amount of btc from the bondholders this month?
smickles: thestringpuller: shhh, you're giving people knowledge :P
jurov: smickles, i seriously consider lending some s.mpoe tomorrow, will you be there?
smickles: about how much ?, I'm not entirely a big fish yet
jurov: ;;calc 27/ 0.00064
smickles: I think I could do that, my terms are 0.2% per day, one interest payment minimum
jurov: okay. we'll see tomorrow
jurov: i'll be most of the day, best evening UTC
smickles: kk, I'm usually on at several points in the day any way, I'll make my presence known :)
jurov: btw, what about the dividends?
jurov: should i return them to you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
jurov: and do you want interest every day or in the end?
smickles: jurov: dividends will be returned to me, payment can be at the end if you want, or in daily installments
Bugpowder: Price has been pretty stable, so I think MPOE is going to do very well
Bugpowder: I bet bondholders get the full 9.9%
Bugpowder: how much will be left afterwards, who knows.
jurov: Bugpowder, you are deducting that from MPBOR announced there? but on december 29 there will be different rate announced
Bugpowder: I was talking about for the current month
Bugpowder: I just didn't look hard for the info
jurov: but afaik bondholders list for current month is not know yet
jurov: neither their requested rates
Bugpowder: MPBOR valid 30 November through 28 December: 9.9%.
jurov: dunno where mpbor is actually used. maybe for margin?
jurov: when mpex paid interest, mpbor was used as a basis
jurov: mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us?
smickles: I know it's at least used to determin how much of the mpoebot profits go to the bondholders, and how much of their principal is returned to them if they bid too high
jurov: yes, but it is computed every month in the end when options expire and then not used for anything else?
smickles: I would venture to guess that it does influence the margin cost somehow too
jurov: btw, one can have a peek to 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR as to how much capital was provided by bondholders. but requested rates are between them and mircea.
smickles: jurov: I dunno, also, i think 'high rollers' can request a unique addy
smickles: clearly, i'm not a high roller, as shown by the tags sending to that addy
jurov: haha yes blockchain.info readily identifies you there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064 = 7.1002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5932 @ 0.00064 = 3.7965 BTC [+]
jurov: argh, these steady trades against the wall unnerve me
jurov: no volatility anymore
jurov: so i shall put another loan request on btcjam?
Bugpowder: Req 4800 BTC to buy thru the annoying wall
jurov: ;;calc 7562321*0.00064
jurov: ic. no problem for btcjam
jurov: in fact, last time i requested such loan, usagi accused me that i do it only cause i want some movement to show on the graphs
jurov: perhaps i wont ever forget such hilarity
mircea_popescu: <jurov> mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us? << well it's used whenever someone wants a reference interest rate.
mircea_popescu: and yes, all bond deposits go to the bond address so people can see what's being deposited during each month.
mircea_popescu: smickles they can for their own account funding, but not for bonds
jurov: ok. so for example i can put on btcjam "interest rate: MPBOR + 1%" and everyone will know.
Bugpowder: how do you determine what bonds get accepted?
jurov: but if it's really going to get 25%.. that will be tough
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder all deposits over 100 btc are accepted. they only count towards a month's capital needs if they make the cut
smickles: jurov: you should do the rate based on what mpbor returns less the principal return
mircea_popescu: each month all bonds are sorted by their interest rate like in a normal auction
Bugpowder: and as the bids fill on the bot, more capital is accepted?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, more in general about mpbor : it's kinda intended as this hook for people to build stuff on. i dunno exactly what they'd build,
mircea_popescu: but im pretty certain it exposes something fundamental about btc macroeconomics
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00064 = 1.1168 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the needed capital is equal to the bot's maximal exposure during the month
smickles: wouldn't it make sense for lenders to build upon it somehow?
Bugpowder: arent the puts valued at (strike-current)/current
Bugpowder: hence if current -> 0, puts go to infinity
jurov: smickles, that was Q for me? i was only half-serious, don't intend such loans atm. but we'll see
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00064 = 14.528 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: "MtGox’s estimated gross monthly revenue of 3-4`000 BTC stands up some months to S.MPOE’s."
Bugpowder: Gox makes money from both buyer and seller
mircea_popescu: in the future there'll prolly have to be something more ellaborate done about it i guess.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder it's tough to estimate how much they make, cause of sliding % scales and whatnot.
sgnb: mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic?
sgnb: financing MPOE by lending xxx.00000888 BTC
jurov: sgnb, that's exactly the bonds we're talking about all time :)
Bugpowder: The absolute minimum gox makes on any trade is 0.5%
mircea_popescu: sgnb yes, ever since thebeginning this is how the bot was financed. it's not going to go away either
Bugpowder: between two accounts that have volume of > half the monthly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00355083 = 1.1398 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00353592 = 3.5359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00352003 = 3.696 BTC [-]
smickles: < sgnb> mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic? /me now watches 1JPvuc for a tx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00064 = 17.76 BTC [+]
smickles: jurov: how has that been selling?
jurov: the first discounted 50BTC sold out. the rest we're gonna fill in ourselves
jurov: unless thre will be some last minute action
smickles: jurov: do you disclose the rate you bid at?
jurov: we'll disclose it afterwards. but as i said at forums, we'll go somewhere very conservative like 4.8%
mircea_popescu: well it'll be de facto disclosed on month's end seeing how you'll be in the list
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
jurov: what to make of such pattern
smickles: Is there a concise name for the MPBOR rate less the % accounted for by the principal return?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00064 = 4.256 BTC [+]
smickles: aw, I was hoping the pattern would continue
pigeons: i call that rate one smickle
jurov: "rate one smickle"? not very concise
smickles: fuck concise, it's not like that was the only criterion
jurov: if it will be negative, we'll say
jurov: smickle jig , it is up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00064 = 5.984 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
jurov: check the E column :P
mircea_popescu: so i see jurov's pseudorandom number geenrator disguised as a trade bot is buying mpoe...
mircea_popescu: btw, from that link : "Utilizaţi un browser neacceptat. Este posibil ca unele funcţii să nu funcţioneze corect. Treceţi la un browser modern, cum ar fi Google Chrome."
mircea_popescu: you are utilizing an unacceptable browser. it's possible some functions do not function.
jurov: i have no objection at all if the bot survived reboot and uses bitcoins from some parallel dimension,
smickles: that diffusion pattern from some time ago was much cooler
jurov: nuff said. someone lend me 4800btc.
smickles: ok, mircea_popescu this close to expiry, my valuation of p130t shows a significant difference from mpoebot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if i don't sell ppl complain that i r manipulating the price by not selling
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8653 @ 0.00064 = 5.5379 BTC [+]
jurov: oh we (at least me) isn't complaining about you. nobody could predict it will create so strong hanging carrot effect
pigeons: so did eskimobob and ciucuicuicui
gribble: eskimobob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <EskimoBob> 50K ART is all gone :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+]
pigeons: i'm about to ignore assbot if he doesn't start reporting some different prices
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00064 = 4.832 BTC [+]
pigeons: mircea_popescu: loan jurov 4800 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00063994 = 1.0879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063973 = 6.2694 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00063946 = 1.3429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063945 = 2.9095 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00063943 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00063915 = 17.5447 BTC [-]
smickles: lol, assbot delivers to pigeons
jurov: i thought i have a bug on live.coinbr.com, that trade is not visible
jurov: but it's just completely insignificant
jurov: so much for pigeons power
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4818 @ 0.00064 = 3.0835 BTC [+]
jurov: eventually they will
jurov: and at 0.0007 whole thing will be worth 700k BTC
jurov: and mpoe will become bitcoin central bank
jurov: if it sin't already
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00064 = 6.528 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: I think soon there will be so much free wi-fi available, you could in theory use the internet for free.
jurov: thestringpuller, where do you live? it's already practice here
jurov: i found out they put a hotspot into public transport bus, too
smickles: I hear that in places like seatle, they actually have a functioning city-wide meshnet, a sort've independant internet
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> that's more BTC than pirate had << and more "had" than pirate's, too.
jurov: yes, it shows how insignificant it is
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when will mpex account holders have a copy of blockchain they can access via mpex and a BCCAPI server :P
mircea_popescu: that's actually a service people can provide themselves.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
smickles: thestringpuller: someone with accounts can automate deposits
mircea_popescu: actually, iirc kakobrekla's smpake either is or is going to.
smickles: damn, mircea_popescu beat me to it
jurov: and i'm well on the way to automate mpex deposits. already get email notifications
smickles: we can do instant deposits too
thestringpuller: all deposites go to <EditText android:id="@+id/edit_message"
smickles: say jurov has 10 spare mpexbtc, I want to deposit 10 btc, i send 10 btc to jurov he txfrs 10 mpex btc to my account
pigeons: does PUSH work with C.BTC?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean how ? 2k deposits happen routinely atm lol
jurov: mircea_popescu, FAQ says PUSH works for excluding cash
smickles: thestringpuller: if you have an mpex account, you can deposit any amount you want
smickles: how does it get processed? manual confirmation
smickles: a trained ape sees the tx, evaluates it, and flips a few bits on a hd
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you know, if you deposit 500 mn in 1mn bearer certificates in your bank account
mircea_popescu: automation and risk management are pretty much contrarian
pigeons: plus its pretty darn quick in practice, and its not like mircea_popescu is busy doing anything else if you wanna just bug him to process your deposit
jurov: haha, i could have been offering quick deposit service already, if i had the audacity to ask why faq says so
thestringpuller: waaaah i don't want to pay 20 btc for an account so I can slap around .05 btc on options
pigeons: he would welcome the excuse to get out of whatever else he is engaged in to process deposits
smickles: kakobrekla: didn't we already do a quick deposit b/t each other?
smickles: I needed liek 10 btc on mpex quick, someone obliged
smickles: when mircea_popescu was asleep
kakobrekla: funny how i can say that after a month or so
jurov: it just never occurred to me to test push with cxbtc
kakobrekla: but then i figured i should better recode first
jurov: OK, you can ask me as well to do it anytime, for amounts < 15BTC atm.
jurov: user interface on coinbr will follow soon
smickles: thestringpuller: it's how mpex displays your btc balance
jurov: smickles: no fee this year
smickles: "this year", he says. crackin' wise, this guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00064 = 8.384 BTC [+]
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
smickles: 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F
jurov: no, you send me 10btc
jurov: [02:06] <gribble> Error: Problem creating encrypted OTP file. :(
smickles: well, I wanted to get 10 more btc onto mpex, not 10 less
jurov: i'm confused. you want to fund or withdraw?
jurov: In order to make this deposit please send to the exchange address ( 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx ) the sum of 10.00296524 BTC exactly. Your transaction will be manually approved, so please allow up to 48 hours for funds to show up in your account.
jurov: smickles, when i see the tx, i'll push the C.BTC to 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F
smickles: jurov: though, when you automate it, the client should send 10 btc to you, and you send the 10.XX btc to 1Fx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00064 = 14.624 BTC [+]
gribble: You have not yet rated user jurov
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded.
jurov: i can't auth with gribble
smickles: i'll verify your identity later
smickles: for when your trained ape is offline
jurov: it's supposed to be faster
mircea_popescu: but... if you send the btc to mpex's address it still waits on mpex ?
jurov: smickles does not have to wait on mpex
jurov: only i have to, but i don't mind
jurov: cause i must have some reserve on mpex anyway
mircea_popescu: anyway, the way push is structured there's nothing to prevent a lot of further development here. i imagine one next step is a loans secured by shares business
jurov: smickles: and i prefer users to directly deposit to mpex cause of faster turnover
mircea_popescu: and in the end i guess mpex accounts will look a lot more like banks than anything
jurov: <rant>maybe they will look like bank when balance+all pending transactions will be consistent at all times</rant>
jurov: all *shown* pending transactions, i mean
jurov: serious scalping opportunity, i say
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+]
jurov: smickles is testing teh bot
smickles: clearly, it's an int division issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+]
smickles: srsly, mircea_popescu you need me to add this 15 satoshi of liquidity
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00000008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00064 = 3.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064 = 1.088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00064 = 6.592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7954 @ 0.00064 = 5.0906 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 24 minutes and 43 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00064 = 6.656 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 213943 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 1768 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3347057.04349520 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.3310481711
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12183 @ 0.00064 = 7.7971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00064 = 6.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064 = 8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00064 = 15.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
gribble: You rated user kakobrekla on Thu Oct 11 11:36:14 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: facilitated a short term loan.
smickles: ;;rate kakobrekla 1 facilitated a short term loan, smpake.com is awesome. use it.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 1.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00064 = 2.656 BTC [+]
pigeons: commission for the previous 2 users goes to jcpham
smickles: heh, I was an early user of smpake, this was just the first significant use
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064 = 0.448 BTC [+]
fulluser: or people actually hold shares for a long time
fulluser: if you could explain it briefly
fulluser: works abosolutely like real stocks ?
kakobrekla: you mean mpex? yeah just like real stock. the glbse stock are completley virtual tho.
fulluser: they change every 5 minutes or so like real world stocks
fulluser: and BTC varies way more than any coin
kakobrekla: you cant trade btc pair on forex, you can trade forex with btc
kakobrekla: well i thought you might find it useful since you mentined forex
kakobrekla: faq: Am I eligible for the 5 BTC bonus?
kakobrekla: When you open a Live account a 5 BTC bonus will be awarded to your balance. In order to withdraw the bonus, one must have have closed at least 5 trades on the Live account.
kakobrekla: sure, send me an email as it says on the site
kakobrekla: if you send me the info now ill reply you with a deposit addy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00064 = 7.2 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: if you can deposit today youll get an account on monday
fulluser: where i can grab gpg for windows
smickles: kakobrekla: checkit, i'm blowing the socks off the mpoebot's prices on the 13,14 strikes
kakobrekla: fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00064 = 10.88 BTC [+]
smickles: yeah, a little more bug testing, then I'll throw some btc at it, then later, I might seek funding for it too
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42174, Best ask: 13.43787, Bid-ask spread: 0.01613, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 19062.67342392, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38236
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7875 @ 0.00064 = 5.04 BTC [+]
smickles: lol, i just realized you could say that to any # up to 30ish
kakobrekla: 04:37.11 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser, you didnt sign the email
kakobrekla: 04:37.28 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3385 @ 0.00064 = 2.1664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064 = 5.312 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles you know it doesn't price on the last day right ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064 = 6.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13116 @ 0.00064 = 8.3942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064 = 8.128 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: yes, that's why i'm rockin' yo socks yo!
smickles: anyway, with the currently limited funds, i've expanded to the 12 to 15 range of strikes :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00064 = 9.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9867 @ 0.00064 = 6.3149 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
smickles: ok, assuming there are no more bugs, I've got a decent amount of optimization to do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00064 = 2.8346 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: you settlements are all bolloxed up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00064 = 4.2464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00064 = 7.0317 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: how many are the putting in one device?
Bugpowder: Whales are back betting on S.DICE again
JWU42: BFL is going to be sending me money very soon
JWU42: might eb cancelling
Bugpowder: S.DICE up another 1000 BTC this morning.
JWU42: looking at Dooglus post?
JWU42: oh yeah - you post in that thread as well
JWU42: with 250 BTC bets things can move quickly
Bugpowder: I think S.DICE is now >18,000 profit this month
JWU42: I use Gox for that
JWU42: not mixing but atleast losing some identity
JWU42: when i feel the need
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00064 = 15.232 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26956 @ 0.00064 = 17.2518 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the fact that they always repay to the address that sent make it impossible to use as a mixer ?
mircea_popescu: well so then wtf people keep going "o, it's used for mixing" as if it's some arcana they know about
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: btw jurov i always meant to ask, what's the br in coinbr stand for ? brazil ?
pigeons: well the coins you get back come from sdice, so there is at least that link
mircea_popescu: pigeons what i mean is, sdice does not sever the link. sure it varies the amt.
mircea_popescu: ianae, but i imagine the only way to correctly mix is to use a single inbound address.
mircea_popescu: in the same sense if not exactly in the same way as freshly minted coins
pigeons: i'll let you lousy criminals speculate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
pigeons: laundering that porn money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00064 = 7.712 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: mircea_popescu has had you on ignore for months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35694 @ 0.00064 = 22.8442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12754 @ 0.00064 = 8.1626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11485 @ 0.00064 = 7.3504 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: who will indirectly cost me 20 btc because he will drive usagi to suicide
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00064 = 15.616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064 = 6.912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00064 = 7.424 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: S.DICE lead down to 600 BTC on the morning
Bugpowder: bet count of 11,000 since 12-27-12 7:00
thestringpuller: looks like your speculation is proving right Dr. Bugpowder
thestringpuller: so Dr. Bugpowder what are you gonna do with your bonus paid for by the ghost of satoshi?
Bugpowder: SPLIT 14 strike options and sell them short
Bugpowder: and what range it does or does not stay within
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45011, Best ask: 13.48408, Bid-ask spread: 0.03397, Last trade: 13.45011, 24 hour volume: 20887.52776928, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.39768
Bugpowder: well as long as it stays between 11 and 17, I made money on options selling this month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11805 @ 0.00064 = 7.5552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00064 = 7.744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064 = 8.512 BTC [+]
gribble: What is the difference between MtGox and Dwalla?
thestringpuller: and the ones we find and citys and parks now are escaped pets
thestringpuller: I have an interesting idea for an offering but I will need to periodically perform reverse splits.
thestringpuller: (i.e. 1000 shares reverse split to 990 shares). Do any exchanges support share splits?
smickles: thestringpuller: probably not programatically, but I'm sure most, if run by good people, would do it manually
pigeons: oh good people, this is bitcoin
smickles: oh, thestringpuller you were quoting :|
pigeons: yeah they don't right-click either, i didnt know thye had problems with quote marks too
thestringpuller: they have trouble with giving me any keys other than apple button or options
smickles: so it turns out, you can't use gmail to send thousands of emails per day to yourself
smickles: "arg parser!" sometimes escapes my mouth in place of "aw, FUCK!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3175 @ 0.00064 = 2.032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33288 @ 0.00064 = 21.3043 BTC [+]
smickles: jcpham: so, because people are rightly trying to avoid the higher form taxes, the people who plan to be depandant on that specific sort of tax revenue are boned?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00064 = 2.304 BTC [+]
jcpham: something like that is what i read
pigeons: give him another nobel prize
pigeons: obama's was the peace prize for drone attacks, afghanistan and iraq?
jcpham: obama won a nobel prize?
jcpham: are you making that up?
smickles: and he got it after ordering things which resulted in innocent deaths
jcpham: if he gets one everyone else gets 100
smickles: and then went on to doing drone strikes which ended up killing children
smickles: and then pretending to cry about the deaths of children which he didn't cause
jcpham: pretty lame president if you don't kill somebody
smickles: and trying, maybe succeding to make it legal to kidnap and kill citizens w/o cause, documentation, trial, etc...
jcpham: you must think you have rights or something
jcpham: authoritarian regimes never allow citizens to affect change
jcpham: make sure to encrypt those emails kids
smickles: I don't even have a proper job, I'm not a good slave at all :/
smickles: but i suppose my wife being active duty makes up for my working for myself, rather than someone else
smickles: yeah, I don't want to get in trouble :|
smickles: if the law gets too out of hand, i'll try to move somewhere else first
smickles: kinda like the 'vote with you dollar' concept
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9799 @ 0.00064 = 6.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
jcpham: i'm sort of waiting for the day i'm branded a terrorist myself
jcpham: for using funny internet money
jcpham: market making, profit taking
smickles: mircea_popescu: "Your order #4828665 has been canceled" << see what's missing there?
jcpham: i lost a 6850 this week
jcpham: actually it has already been rma'd once
jcpham: to replace it while i rma it again
jcpham: i'll gpu mine until i have to pay for a power bill
smickles: uh-oh, jurov it's having trouble finding order #'s now :o
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40091, Best ask: 13.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04906, Last trade: 13.40091, 24 hour volume: 21262.83730854, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.41324
jcpham: i'm about to leave work myself
jcpham: just do it. screw those bosses and their work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00064 = 3.9078 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4436 @ 0.00064 = 2.839 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00064 = 7.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00064 = 7.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10154 @ 0.00064 = 6.4986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064 = 1.6 BTC [+]
gribble: Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245', is identified as user jurov, with GPG key id 677ABD62D0AEE7D7, key fingerprint BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7, and bitcoin address None
jurov: i heard there was some filthy impostor doing mpex fundings with smickles
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jurov: ;;rate Ukto 2 pleasure to work with him (no homo)
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gribble: Error: You cannot rate yourself.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21070 @ 0.00064 = 13.4848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14843 @ 0.00064 = 9.4995 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Latest Dooglas post is out. 33737.14961221 Profit for S.DICE
Bugpowder: If only these S.MPOE bots would train there sights on S.DICE we could get a decent valuation.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45768, Best ask: 13.49769, Bid-ask spread: 0.04001, Last trade: 13.49883, 24 hour volume: 23420.32427228, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42037
smickles: ;;calc 17700 / 100000000 / 0.0037
smickles: anyone have 5550 or so btc to lend?
jurov: Bugpowder, how exactly do you suppose the bots for s.dice would work?
Bugpowder: same way they are working for S.MPOE
Bugpowder: I haven't seen a sell on S.MPOE in 2 days
jurov: oh...er...how do you know these are bots?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.48878, Bid-ask spread: 0.06877, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41102, Best ask: 13.48877, Bid-ask spread: 0.07775, Last trade: 13.41102, 24 hour volume: 24188.07995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
jurov: i can imagine someone programmed a "bot" for dripping buys of s.mpoe
jurov: but that's just a script, not a real bot that makes decisions
Bugpowder: but its just super steady small lot buys
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00064 = 4.9862 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I hope it keeps up through the divvy payment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: it's like someone forgot to change the setting on their bot after the secondary offering
Bugpowder: And they have 1000s of coins to play with
jurov: but why would they do it?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00351365 = 0.0351 BTC [+]
jurov: no i mean.. do they fear that buying it all in one go would cause X?
Bugpowder: it's like they have a bot that hits the ask every 15 minutes
Bugpowder: and sells when the bid goes over the purchase price
smickles: maybe to try to catch some lower sells
Bugpowder: but it cant go over cause the secondary offering
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
jurov: smickles yes, their idea might be, to get better price.. but that's totally not working now
Bugpowder: The funny thing is.... it's not exploitable by us either
jurov: .. unless someone lends me 4800 btc, ofc
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245 . User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 17, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 8 positive, 1 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov smickles: jurov: what rate would you pay for ~100 btc?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41005, Best ask: 13.48989, Bid-ask spread: 0.07984, Last trade: 13.49995, 24 hour volume: 24497.02820033, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42369
jurov: i won't make a scratch on that wall with 100btc
Bugpowder: 3 more days like this and its gone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
smickles: someone should be watching known/suspected mircea addys for possible connection to these buys, on the off chance that a connection is made
smickles: I should just pretend to do it and make regular reports saying there is no connection to raise confidence
smickles: probably something to do with the slipage involved with a sale of a large portion of it
mircea_popescu: i been trying to calc stuff like that with about 0 success
kakobrekla: mpex has 30times the volume of largest SL exchange
smickles: then incorporate random walk theory mircea_popescu ;)
mircea_popescu: yest i looked into market, there were absolutely NO offers of s.mpoe
smickles: mircea_popescu: that's a spooky fact
smickles: maybe it's cause there arn't enough people will balls enough to short it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00064 = 1.472 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fact is, i've seen more nonsense in btc finance than all togetgher anywhere else all time.
kakobrekla: goes together with the crypto anarchism i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Well, its 3.38M shares of bids > .00058
Bugpowder: And if this tier sells thru, the bot might make a profit
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42002, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42002, 24 hour volume: 22418.93354803, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.43718
Bugpowder: yeah I wanted in at 62 but had no free capital
Bugpowder: I thought it was only like 300 shares that popped off at that price
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:23 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:24 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:26 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:27 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-]
smickles: lol, someone sold right b/f the end of the world
mircea_popescu: you seriously telling me it was a millenarist thing ?!
smickles: bitcoins, being man's great acheivement, are like aboriginal boomerangs to the greys
mircea_popescu: i'll say this, it may be the case we have a real market here on the strength of the criteria that it makes absolutely no sense.
smickles: no sense? it's an unyeilding techincal (chartist) breakout
smickles: and it has the best fundamentals of any freely available bitcoin investment
smickles: mircea_popescu: face facts, you're winning
Bugpowder: yeah, I only get as far as to tell people 'you are drawing lines on a chart. you are an idiot.
smickles: well, these bots Bugpowder was complaining weren't on s.dice too are probably running on TA
Bugpowder: Would have bot SP500 if I saw the drop
mircea_popescu: there's not going to be any deal and the stocks will continue to appreciate
mircea_popescu: they are completely divorced from any fundamentals, the nyse is currently running its very own version of the stock generation scam
Bugpowder: this is why I need to buy on the panic
smickles: lol, i can see it now. continue to buy and hold until taxes are lowered again
Bugpowder: the only way to keep pace with the printing is to own stocks
Bugpowder: taxes are never going lower than this
Bugpowder: going over cliff is US's best hope I think
Bugpowder: Also I don't mind paying more in taxes as long as everyone else must too
mircea_popescu: what do these shares represent ? the government runs the corp anyway.
Bugpowder: 110% return from the lows to today
mircea_popescu: if i don't trust a man he can't have any money from me on all the bonds in christendom
Bugpowder: I somehow feel that S.DICE shares have more risk than SPY.... but.. maybe I am not with the new way
Bugpowder: Did the S.MPOE bot hear us and get turned off?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45101, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 13.45101, 24 hour volume: 22730.04896326, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44036
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+]
smickles: people, buy/sell my options offers, there's still plenty of time b/f maturity :D
Bugpowder: is settelment done with 24hprc, 24vwap, or spot?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04878, Last trade: 13.45112, 24 hour volume: 22730.29997529, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44044
smickles: it's what is being reported by bitcoincharts
smickles: it was 13.33 only an hour or so ago
Bugpowder: but other have prices down at 13.1
mircea_popescu: but im pretty sure it's a vwap, because of its behaviour when volume occurs
mircea_popescu: so i think ticker is mtgox vwap only and 24hprc is all exchanges
jurov: ;;(14-13.36)/13.36
gribble: Error: "(14-13.36)/13.36" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;calc (14-13.36)/13.36
Bugpowder: I sold 100 calls and puts at 14 for about .20 average
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04876, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 22742.72980548, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44065
gribble: Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.
smickles: stable 2 months, i say, i sold about 40 contracts to the bot when they were 'N's at the beginning of the month and stand to make ~13% on them
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05885, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 23720.51157629, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44342
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.53299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08187, Last trade: 13.53300, 24 hour volume: 23778.70373198, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44439
smickles: that's been the high for a little while now
Bugpowder: it hasn't been about 13.50 for real for a while...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00064 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064 = 2.88 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44996, Best ask: 13.49987, Bid-ask spread: 0.04991, Last trade: 13.49996, 24 hour volume: 23899.71614026, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44574
jurov: feeling in the room is palpable
smickles: mircea_popescu: you should let the mpbor % leak ;)
smickles: that doesn't stop most leaks, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
smickles: thestringpuller: that's 111%, actually, didn't you ever read Bilbo's speach at his birthday at the beginning of the hobbit?
smickles: it was his eleventy-first birthday party
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.00064 = 6.5376 BTC [+]
Azelphur: smickles: are all the SS payments done now?
smickles: Azelphur: nope, and there's one in the pipe right now
smickles: i'm working on syncing the chain on that machine
Ukto: Diablo-D3: you there?
jcpham: afk mining on GTX 630's like a boss
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00064 = 2.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064 = 6.688 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: Completed txs: 670 | Completed txs vol: 5093 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145000 @ 0.00064 = 92.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00064 = 13.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800000 @ 0.00064 = 512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00064 = 2.336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00064 = 32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ 0.00000003 = 14 BTC
jurov: twitter says S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 14`252.99177745 BTC to 500`000`000 outstanding shares.
jurov: and assbot needs fixing to parse romanian numerals
Bugpowder: at least now we know mp has 14000 BTC
kakobrekla: mpex needs to upgrade teh api interface
smickles: damn, my mpbor troll didn't work :P
smickles: maybe it did, and I spooked money into sensible bids, who knows
Bugpowder: there wasn't much volatility this month, so maybe that ment not a lot of exposure
Bugpowder: so mad I didn't get my other 280BTC into S.MPOE before the fuckup
Bugpowder: Total capital : 7`292.03, of which
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00346166 = 7.0964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 126 @ 0.00355333 = 0.4477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1370 @ 0.00358687 = 4.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.00358998 = 1.7124 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00359072 = 2.334 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12499 @ 0.0036 = 44.9964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ = 1 BTC
mircea_popescu: hey, at least assbot doesn't go around paying 15k btc instead 0f 1.5k
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00063988 = 3.4528 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801
jurov: done. fortunately that i don't trust stat stuff and initiate dividing the cake manually.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12802, Last trade: 13.65000, 24 hour volume: 31339.88226787, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.66978, 24 hour vwap: 13.48579
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5915 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: does split use 24hprc for ITM put deposit calculations?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063988 = 3.1354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8482 @ 0.00063988 = 5.4275 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0006396 = 3.0701 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8944 @ 0.00063934 = 5.7183 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00063915 = 4.4408 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00063909 = 6.0074 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063896 = 4.0254 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3260 @ 0.0006388 = 2.0825 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00063877 = 6.9626 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12627 @ 0.00063873 = 8.0652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063833 = 7.9153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063831 = 4.149 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063802 = 1.5951 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.000638 = 41.47 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.000638 = 1.914 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.000638 = 4.6255 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.000638 = 6.5172 BTC [-]
smickles: that 'volatility sauce' is annoying as fuck :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.000638 = 3.6366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.000638 = 4.5828 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52109, Best ask: 13.59974, Bid-ask spread: 0.07865, Last trade: 13.52109, 24 hour volume: 32543.24138401, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.49578
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.000638 = 3.4452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.000638 = 7.8474 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.000638 = 0.319 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: Ukto: btw, nefario just sent me my final list
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: please say you have a good punchline for that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23198 @ 0.000638 = 14.8003 BTC [-]
smickles: alright, live test month of SOEBOT has begun!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.000638 = 17.226 BTC [-]
smickles: I've launched an options market maker bot in beta
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43475, Best ask: 13.49409, Bid-ask spread: 0.05934, Last trade: 13.49409, 24 hour volume: 34545.30775319, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.48996
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.000638 = 8.3259 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.000638 = 4.147 BTC [-]
smickles: thestringpuller: a bit over 100 btc for now
smickles: heh, yeah, one on each side of each strike which it's targeting
smickles: i'm fine with making 1/1000th of mpoebot's profit :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.000638 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4216 @ 0.000638 = 2.6898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.000638 = 5.2954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5892 @ 0.000638 = 3.7591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000638 = 2.3606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.000638 = 7.4327 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.000638 = 6.2524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.000638 = 1.2441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00346013 = 1.737 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: im talkin to one of his students or smth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.000638 = 4.6574 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000638 = 2.0199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.000638 = 2.0416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.000638 = 13.3342 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.000638 = 3.8918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.000638 = 1.4355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.000638 = 4.7531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12501 @ 0.000638 = 7.9756 BTC [-]
pigeons: 638 is even more boring than 64
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.000638 = 1.9778 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.000638 = 1.1484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.000638 = 8.932 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20372 @ 0.000638 = 12.9973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.000638 = 5.3911 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.000638 = 6.6671 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.000638 = 1.8502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.000638 = 5.1678 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5735 @ 0.000638 = 3.6589 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7257 @ 0.000638 = 4.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2607 @ 0.000638 = 1.6633 BTC [-]
smickles: incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,
smickles: incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,
smickles: incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,
smickles: kakobrekla: also, i use gox's v1 api from time to time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.000638 = 7.2732 BTC [-]
smickles: kakobrekla: i'm not sure, but I think they require valid user-agent headers too
smickles: oh, nvm, that was a silly answer
smickles: kakobrekla: i only do manual withdrawals, so I don't know how well I can help
smickles: kakobrekla: I don't use that api call to gen a key
smickles: I use the the site to manually fetch a key/secret pair for each app
smickles: hmm, I suppose only withdrawal requires the HOTP?
smickles: is there any documentation on v2?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7527 @ 0.000638 = 4.8022 BTC [-]
Ukto: dont get me started on their api
Ukto: i have to use a half mix between them
Ukto: i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13882 @ 0.000638 = 8.8567 BTC [-]
gribble: Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 minutes and 19 seconds ago: <Ukto> i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes
Ukto: was waiting for you to finish your comment
kakobreklaa: just wanted to see what your last line was
Ukto: [12:07] <kakobrekla> if you generate a code
Ukto: [12:11] * kakobrekla (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
kakobreklaa: 19:05.07 ( kakobrekla ) if you generate a code
kakobreklaa: 19:05.15 ( kakobrekla ) you use withdrawal api
kakobreklaa: 19:05.24 ( kakobrekla ) you need to change
kakobreklaa: 19:05.29 ( kakobrekla ) just as i need to.
kakobreklaa: 19:06.09 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v1 you need to share how da fuck you gen code with it
Ukto: i dont know wtf ver I use
Ukto: it was the only one at the time that I know of
Ukto: someone did a withdraw... 2? days ago
Ukto: I may just shut it down and say fuck it
Ukto: ill look in 1 sec and tell you
Ukto: gotta finish setting up some routing real quick
Ukto: v0 was so simple :/
Ukto: the hard part was trying ot figure out the docs
Ukto: seeing as the url is 0/
Ukto: I assume its not v1
Ukto: so we have what.. 2? days?
kakobreklaa: v2 returns simmilar to v1 but has ZERO docs
kakobreklaa: string(45) "Identification required to access private API"
kakobreklaa: You are currently making use of a system which will be deprecated on Mon 31 Dec 2012 12:00:00 AM GMT:
Ukto: i didnt get an email
kakobreklaa: well i see in my code that btc2code is a 0/withdraw.php call
kakobreklaa: so i guess you fall in that category as well
Ukto: i use mtgox_redeem and mtgox_createcoupon
Ukto: oh wiat, I wrote these functions
Ukto: last touched may 30th 2012
Ukto: gox was one of the main reasons for why I am spending so much on my API documentation
Ukto: fully interactive API documentation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.000638 = 1.7864 BTC [-]
kakobreklaa: blockchain info can do api withdrawals too eh
smickles: blockchain.info can do a lot of things, apparently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.000638 = 4.6255 BTC [-]
Ukto: blockchain also has issues
Ukto: and no responsibilities
Ukto: i have reported an problem with like 3 json responses
Ukto: starting months ago
Ukto: that they didnt fix yet
Ukto: mostly just json blockchain infos
Ukto: ill have todig it up
Ukto: their shit wont give block details above block 1551
Ukto: which is completely useless
Ukto: because it doesnt work
Ukto: I ended up doing a lot of work
Ukto: to get the same data
Ukto: thats just one of the issues
Ukto: so they just chose to not have data for the middle
Ukto: so it only urns on the last block
Ukto: otherwise it give syou non rawdata
Ukto: but anythen below the last block doesnt even give you a json error
Ukto: just a bunch of html
Ukto: its retarded as hell
Ukto: there are like 4 other things
Ukto: they just are not consistant enough
Ukto: that was teh most important one I needed
Ukto: and generally for blocks 2~6 blocks old
Ukto: simple way to verify random data :)
Ukto: for projects not yet public
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2961 @ 0.000638 = 1.8891 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.000638 = 5.8696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.000638 = 6.9542 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.000638 = 6.8904 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6403 @ 0.000638 = 4.0851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6178 @ 0.000638 = 3.9416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8759 @ 0.000638 = 5.5882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.000638 = 3.509 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.000638 = 4.466 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this
Diablo-D3: its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there
Diablo-D3: anyone who didnt get a shot either didnt get this or has full blown flu
Namjies: Can't it be plain cold if it's not full blown flu you have?
Diablo-D3: and flu is basically leathal for me
Namjies: How can you know it's not cold =/
Diablo-D3: I dont get colds. ever. I thought I said this.
Namjies: That's not a good arguments. You can't claim you're immune to every cold virus.
Diablo-D3: its a tradeoff from having allergies
markedathome: Discuss: web forums are the biggest step back in communications. They are bloated 2MBs of information per page for what should be approx 1-2000 words
Diablo-D3: markedathome: its not the concept of forums do that
Namjies: How do having allergies prevent cold? O.o
markedathome: mircea_popescu: can i do ignore, prioritise, highlight,kill a thread? I don't think so :-)
markedathome: Diablo-D3: it is absolutely the forum concept. a bunch of fucking idjits came along and completely missed the good things about threading in nntp/cosy/cix/bix/well and "re-implemented"
Diablo-D3: Namjies: it isnt supposed to, its a side effect
markedathome: and implemented all the bad. static pages built at each page request from a database...
Diablo-D3: markedathome: well thats the thing
Diablo-D3: the static page only needs to be about 200 bytes bigger than the content
Namjies: there's no such side-effect of allergies O.o
Namjies: You're telling me the fact your immune system reacts to certain substances makes it non-reactive to the cold virus?
markedathome: huh huh, well it uses mysql/progres-sql/db-de-jour, and php! and perl! and python! and ruby! and whatever took the "designer's" fancy that day
Diablo-D3: Namjies: allergies are an overactive immune system
markedathome: i'm surprised that no one had implemented a json decoder in xml for a brainfuck interpreted client running on java for a 3 page forum thread on the use of vinegar for descaling kettles.
Namjies: Diablo-D3 so how does that makes you immune to cold?
Diablo-D3: it just does for a lot of people who have severe allergies to stuff like trees and flowering plants
Namjies: Is that just an impression of yours or a scientifically recognized fact?
Diablo-D3: a lot of allergen sufferers have noticed this
Namjies: It might just be that allergies and cold are hard to distinguish, having similar effects.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 600 @ 0.2922464 = 175.3478 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 900 @ 0.2479297 = 223.1367 BTC [+]
Namjies: [16:20] <Diablo-D3> being sick sucks
Namjies: [16:21] <Diablo-D3> as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this
Namjies: [16:21] <Diablo-D3> its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there
Namjies: [16:23] <Diablo-D3> and flu is basically leathal for me
Namjies: If that's not flu nor cold, what the hell is it then?
Namjies: Well might be your first ever cold... some people rarely get symptoms and usually have asymptomatic colds.
Namjies: Well the two can be nearly identical, except for severity.
Namjies: If you have flu, you'd probably be sick like hell. Colds already feel like hell sometimes.
Diablo-D3: no, when I was a kid and got the flu, I would be in bed sick for 2 weeks
Diablo-D3: and my nose would flow with snot constantly
Diablo-D3: its the curse of being a severe asthamtic
asa1024: I have COPD and the docs wanted me to get a flu shot. I passed on it.
Namjies: yes. Hence why I'm proposing cold... the symptoms are mostly identical, except for severity and headache/muscle aches which are more frequent with flu.
Diablo-D3: Namjies: I have the headache and the muscle aches
Diablo-D3: Namjies: and it seems people who haven gotten flu shots are getting it
asa1024: oh yeah? well when it was pitched to me they didn't have any in stock
Namjies: So might be a weak flu or strong cold.
Namjies: Didn't you get flu shot and still have it?
Diablo-D3: asa1024: theres no reason for people not to get it
Diablo-D3: Namjies: its only among those who have gotten flu shots
Namjies: It seems unlikely to affect only those who have gotten flu shots.
Diablo-D3: so either they made the shot too strong, or theres something not quite right somewhere
Namjies: Unless the infection is due to flu shots themselves...
Diablo-D3: or its the zombie plague and we're all fucked\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.000638 = 2.4244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 738 @ 0.0036 = 2.6568 BTC [+]
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: do you have the power to get me out if bitcoin newbie jail on bitcointalk.org? I've been browsing there for a while but haven't posted.
kakobrekla: pizzaman1337 sorry cant do that, try PMing theymos to unblock you
kakobrekla: i dunno what is the post limit but i think its failry low
pizzaman1337: But what am I going to post about? I'd hate to just spam
pizzaman1337: there's a "please let me out" thread, I'll try that
kakobrekla: dunno, find a few threads where you can write at least one non offtopic sentence in and you are good
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.000638 = 6.4119 BTC [-]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 57 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <smickles> blockchain.info can do a lot of things, apparently
kakobrekla: im not going to through all that jazz.
kakobrekla: something like "darn it, too late again."
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: I can't post there until I'm out of jail
pizzaman1337: But I hit my limit of 5, I just need to wait for 4 hours to pass
pizzaman1337: not like that will get me my BTC from campbx anyway...
pizzaman1337: yeah, losing 150 BTC wouldn't be as fun as it sounds (not that it sounds fun...)
pizzaman1337: I should just use bitinstant next time and suck up the 4%
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6844 @ 0.000638 = 4.3665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3710 @ 0.000638 = 2.367 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: how about blockchain, i just saw today they offer the option to buy bitcoins
kakobrekla: there, smpake is shutdown, metapool and bitbet now use blockchain instead of gox, im ready to enter 2013 gox free
gribble: 1 BTC = 13.36400 U.S. dollars = 10.1073968 Euros
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.36400, Best ask: 13.39933, Bid-ask spread: 0.03533, Last trade: 13.36400, 24 hour volume: 26155.21784806, 24 hour low: 13.27000, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.48919
pizzaman1337: it goes through bitinstant, but where does bitinstant get their coins?
kakobrekla: but all i can see is deposit to exchange
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9752 @ 0.000638 = 6.2218 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: does blockchain.info make money on anything besides their mixer?
pizzaman1337: it's a nice site, they should find another way to monetize
pizzaman1337: speaking of that, are there any businesses that "need to exist" in the bitcoin world that would really help bitcoin?
pizzaman1337: it would be nice if it was easier to turn cash to btc and back...
pizzaman1337: the bitcoin debit card is really interesting for me for that reason
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4007 @ 0.000638 = 2.5565 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3926 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5122 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 nothing in the purvey of the average person with an internet connection, unfortunately.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063988 = 5.6309 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9313 @ 0.00063988 = 5.9592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00063988 = 2.4315 BTC [+]
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Namjies has changed from 2 to 4.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00063988 = 5.4044 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: pizzaman1337: good luck getting the banks on your side pizzaman1337 bitcoin liquidity isn't really an issue anymore
pigeons: ;;rate Namjies 4 repaid 1 month 100 btc loan great to deal with
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Namjies has changed from 4 to 4.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7232 @ 0.00063988 = 4.6276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00063988 = 5.567 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5915 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063988 = 4.9911 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00357926 = 7.1585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00063988 = 8.6384 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00063988 = 13.9494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00063988 = 1.3437 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10579371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.16041482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2211 @ 0.00063988 = 1.4148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.13653422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.12667655 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.09470433 BTC [+]
Namjies: Anyone knows how to precisely schedule dividends for 0:00 GMT on BTCT.co?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00063988 = 4.4792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.105975 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.16007948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.13677851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.12622478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3415 @ 0.00063988 = 2.1852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063988 = 6.6548 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00063988 = 4.7031 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00353938 = 1.4158 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13296 @ 0.00063988 = 8.5078 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00063988 = 3.5833 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10590116 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.1600014 BTC [-]
Namjies: Ah well... I just transferred the first BTC-BONDs to BTCT.co and user goes around selling them for 0.008 each. Would have liked to buy them back =/
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.13670042 BTC [-]
smickles: Namjies: such is the rational market
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.12614989 BTC [-]
Namjies: Well people never contact me and make the request for the 0.01 BTC per bond buyback =/
Namjies: I probably should have done that first.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3433 @ 0.00063988 = 2.1967 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4917 @ 0.00064 = 3.1469 BTC [+]
Namjies: I don't usually keep a bid wall tho, I use funds elsewhere.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1034 @ 0.00346561 = 3.5834 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00064 = 7.488 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00064 = 8.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2989 @ 0.00064 = 1.913 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I think I told him I got the final list
Ukto: then i distracted you
Ukto: with useless bullshit
Ukto: that I finally got working
Diablo-D3: then I spend the past 4 days alternating between dying and sleeping
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00064 = 5.376 BTC [+]
Ukto: Diablo-D3: pester away heh, i did enough to you already :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9221 @ 0.00064 = 5.9014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10377 @ 0.00064 = 6.6413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00064 = 3.552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 804 @ 0.00353458 = 2.8418 BTC [+]
pizzaman1337: Buglouse: maybe I just have the impression coins are that easy to get because campbx.com is holding on to mine...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16684 @ 0.00064 = 10.6778 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00064 = 14.72 BTC [+]
pigeons: one day i won't hate people who are happy
mircea_popescu: apparently, there's a bad vice.com article about everything
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many cents this experiment in becoming the new about.com actually cost.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4692 @ 0.00064 = 3.0029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3576 @ 0.00064 = 2.2886 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: looks like S.DICE is up to +20,000 this month now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7687 @ 0.00064 = 4.9197 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00064 = 15.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12386 @ 0.00064 = 7.927 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00064 = 3.936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00064 = 5.7222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7704 @ 0.00064 = 4.9306 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6799 @ 0.00064 = 4.3514 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00064 = 6.752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00064 = 3.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00064 = 5.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00064 = 16 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00357778 = 1.4311 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1007 @ 0.00355584 = 3.5807 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.0034757 = 1.2165 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1316 @ 0.00346561 = 4.5607 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1498 @ 0.00346013 = 5.1833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 628 @ 0.00345868 = 2.1721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4801 @ 0.00343244 = 16.4791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00063914 = 3.4194 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00063907 = 6.7741 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00063893 = 4.6003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1979 @ 0.00063817 = 1.2629 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8048 @ 0.00063794 = 5.1341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063773 = 6.8875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00063768 = 2.0406 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00063761 = 2.1679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00063747 = 3.8567 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6807 @ 0.00063742 = 4.3389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11883 @ 0.00063741 = 7.5743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00063741 = 12.4614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00063738 = 11.8553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8063 @ 0.00063727 = 5.1383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00063715 = 25.2949 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063701 = 7.9945 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15884 @ 0.00063683 = 10.1154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6453 @ 0.00063683 = 4.1095 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063683 = 1.5921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00063677 = 4.9031 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00063676 = 6.7815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00063675 = 4.3936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5423 @ 0.00063671 = 3.4529 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00063667 = 7.6719 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3737 @ 0.00063665 = 2.3792 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00063658 = 11.8086 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6724 @ 0.00063649 = 4.2798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00063646 = 2.6731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063643 = 0.6364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00063618 = 12.7872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7908 @ 0.00063617 = 5.0308 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00063605 = 3.7527 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9448 @ 0.00063604 = 6.0093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8396 @ 0.00063602 = 5.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063595 = 2.5756 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00063582 = 1.0173 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2735 @ 0.00063574 = 1.7387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00063571 = 2.7336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00063564 = 1.6844 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063529 = 2.0965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6769 @ 0.00063515 = 4.2993 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0006351 = 5.6524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063503 = 4.0007 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10409 @ 0.00063503 = 6.61 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2303 @ 0.00063502 = 1.4625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063496 = 5.5876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00063485 = 7.4912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00063483 = 25.298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00063469 = 1.2694 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00063469 = 3.5289 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3473 @ 0.00063468 = 2.2042 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 671 @ 0.00063467 = 0.4259 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00063461 = 1.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00063457 = 2.0624 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5806 @ 0.00063457 = 3.6843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00063456 = 4.6323 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00063454 = 2.5382 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14926 @ 0.00063452 = 9.4708 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00063439 = 4.6945 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00063434 = 9.0076 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11983 @ 0.00063433 = 7.6012 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00063423 = 3.8054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2967 @ 0.00063415 = 1.8815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29096 @ 0.00063406 = 18.4486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00063396 = 2.2823 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00063391 = 13.3438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00063377 = 5.2603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00063358 = 5.5121 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00063353 = 6.6837 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00063351 = 2.5024 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1515 @ 0.0006335 = 0.9598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00063342 = 15.2654 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0006333 = 4.4964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00063327 = 7.2509 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00063313 = 7.376 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063312 = 4.9383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00063309 = 15.669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063293 = 3.1647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00063292 = 7.2153 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063288 = 6.3288 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00063281 = 3.6387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11034 @ 0.00063273 = 6.9815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1450 @ 0.0036 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00064 = 7.936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13591 @ 0.00064 = 8.6982 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00064 = 15.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00064 = 4.224 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2094 @ 0.00064 = 1.3402 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4399 @ 0.00064 = 2.8154 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23144 @ 0.00064 = 14.8122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00064 = 7.008 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: could I pay you to come up with business ideas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1366 @ 0.00064 = 0.8742 BTC [+]
pigeons: how about a business that comes up with business ideas for thestringpuller
pigeons: 13KFuRvwqQ5ZCyDAuqopYcUCXgGpdoRR14
mircea_popescu: wait, you were going to pay me bitcents to come up with business ideas ?
Bugpowder: unless the portfolio distribution gets so out of whack you can't rebalance via shifting distribution of future income, why sell?
Bugpowder: It will be a bigger problem when I'm older and portfolio is much greater than income
Bugpowder: and maybe they really will go >$100 someday
Bugpowder: and I will look like a genius to all my friends
Bugpowder: and make a few of them some money on the way
pigeons: i look like a genius to all my friends because i go to the dentist
Bugpowder: well, I hope I haven't lost all my coins by 2012
thestringpuller: or unless some really really rich person comes in and manipulates the coins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6385 @ 0.00064 = 4.0864 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: the hedgies don't believe in bitcoin yet
Bugpowder: fuck that would drive the price up
pigeons: bitcoins are more illegal than skateboards i say
Bugpowder: bitcoin is the BRK-A of currencies.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00064 = 8.736 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: especially when the cops come and say "son there is no skating here"
pigeons: ;;google use a skate go to
pigeons: ;;google "use a skate go to"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00064 = 9.408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00064 = 3.904 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Bugpowder: what if a bunch of vendors just start accepting bitcoin? Wouldn't that as well drive the price up, albeit more slowly than a whale billionaire coming in.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00064 = 4.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1289 @ 0.0036 = 4.6404 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: The only sustainable rise is from market acceptance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7412 @ 0.00064 = 4.7437 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00064 = 3.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8761 @ 0.00064 = 5.607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00064 = 8.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7716 @ 0.00064 = 4.9382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00064 = 0.512 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00064 = 4.5626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: I'm EskimoBob I'm so cool, I'm making ART and selling it for bitcoins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00064 = 4.7405 BTC [+]
pigeons: i will loan you ART shares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8589 @ 0.00064 = 5.497 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00064 = 5.6 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu STAT is still fucked up for futures deposits
thestringpuller: yea but it keeps returning Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported: Unsupported format
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00064 = 15.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: I will send you a brainwashed scarlett johansen for 10mn shares of MPOE
Diablo-D3: end of the world, it was late, but here it is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00064 = 7.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7908 @ 0.00064 = 5.0611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00064 = 4.096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13975 @ 0.00064 = 8.944 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: evoorhees pimpin' S.DICE on the forum
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00064 = 6.816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0006392 = 13.1036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14570 @ 0.00063906 = 9.3111 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10772 @ 0.00063883 = 6.8815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00063849 = 1.8516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063805 = 6.8909 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4320 @ 0.00063695 = 2.7516 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00063488 = 5.9996 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00063485 = 3.9043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00063418 = 5.5808 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10358 @ 0.00063406 = 6.5676 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063385 = 6.8456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.0006334 = 5.4472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00063306 = 11.585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12516 @ 0.00063273 = 7.9192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00063271 = 4.429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7322 @ 0.00063264 = 4.6322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00063247 = 8.9811 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00063231 = 5.3114 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00063228 = 6.2912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31158 @ 0.00063203 = 19.6928 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7576 @ 0.000632 = 4.788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063195 = 2.5594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00063193 = 5.5926 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.0006319 = 13.3331 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00063172 = 1.7372 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9740 @ 0.0006317 = 6.1528 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00063153 = 5.3049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.0006315 = 13.8299 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00063147 = 3.8204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00063124 = 2.6828 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00063104 = 8.5821 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00063102 = 6.2155 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6796 @ 0.00063089 = 4.2875 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8756 @ 0.00063089 = 5.5241 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063084 = 3.4065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9690 @ 0.00063071 = 6.1116 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3640 @ 0.00063055 = 2.2952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9934 @ 0.00063048 = 6.2632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00063048 = 3.1209 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9591 @ 0.00063044 = 6.0466 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00063034 = 4.9167 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00063034 = 4.8851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00063032 = 2.4267 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00063023 = 1.8592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00063012 = 1.6383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00063011 = 7.3093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6279 @ 0.00062996 = 3.9555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00062978 = 5.3216 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00062965 = 2.3612 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: looks like the bot owner just realized what was happening :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062957 = 6.9882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00062953 = 8.8764 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062942 = 4.5318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00062908 = 7.6119 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062906 = 6.1648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00062904 = 3.4283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7303 @ 0.000629 = 4.5936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062898 = 2.7675 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062894 = 2.956 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00062893 = 8.3962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14234 @ 0.00062892 = 8.952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00062887 = 4.9052 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7135 @ 0.00062876 = 4.4862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13230 @ 0.00062876 = 8.3185 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.0006287 = 5.6897 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.0006286 = 6.726 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00062851 = 2.2312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8730 @ 0.00062849 = 5.4867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14872 @ 0.00062845 = 9.3463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00062841 = 6.0642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7633 @ 0.00062841 = 4.7967 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24805 @ 0.00062841 = 15.5877 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00062823 = 6.4079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062822 = 4.1463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00062816 = 5.7791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062809 = 8.1652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00062806 = 18.9046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18592 @ 0.00062796 = 11.675 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00062788 = 7.6915 BTC [-]
pigeons: shit i have no money in mpex to buy up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00062781 = 19.9016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.0006278 = 16.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062777 = 6.0894 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12240 @ 0.00062772 = 7.6833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00062771 = 16.7285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006277 = 1.632 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00062768 = 6.5279 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24966 @ 0.00062763 = 15.6694 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00062751 = 4.0161 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00062743 = 0.8157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062732 = 5.9595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062729 = 3.9833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13028 @ 0.0006272 = 8.1712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3136 @ 0.00062715 = 1.9667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00062712 = 7.0237 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4840 @ 0.00062708 = 3.0351 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00062706 = 6.2079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9904 @ 0.00062705 = 6.2103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00062698 = 10.2198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00062695 = 8.1504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.0006269 = 9.0901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00062687 = 21.7524 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00062686 = 7.8984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00062672 = 6.3612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43950 @ 0.00062669 = 27.543 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062663 = 5.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00062654 = 4.1665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00062644 = 7.8305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9688 @ 0.00062641 = 6.0687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29097 @ 0.0006264 = 18.2264 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2722 @ 0.00062636 = 1.705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.0006262 = 16.5943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6278 @ 0.00062619 = 3.9312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062616 / 0.00063518 / 0.00064 (3479023 shares, 2,209.83 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.00057298 / 0.00064 (74518119 shares, 42,697.42 BTC)
pigeons: enough of that, release the volatility!
Bugpowder: "‘Major setback’ in fiscal cliff talks" Yesss.
Bugpowder: ES down 26.70 after hours... probably more tomorrow
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45000, Best ask: 13.45006, Bid-ask spread: 0.00006, Last trade: 13.45006, 24 hour volume: 7984.25471044, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.50000, 24 hour vwap: 13.42313
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00064 = 3.296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7052 @ 0.00064 = 4.5133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2347 @ 0.00064 = 1.5021 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00064 = 3.0771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3858 @ 0.00064 = 2.4691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00064 = 4.064 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00064 = 1.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00064 = 16.352 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064 = 7.296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00348516 = 5.2277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1614 @ 0.0035004 = 5.6496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5219 @ 0.0036 = 18.7884 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064 = 4.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00064 = 8.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 54054 @ 0.0036 = 194.5944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12780 @ 0.00064 = 8.1792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064 = 2.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00357478 / 0.0036 (100846 shares, 360.50 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00307919 / 0.0037 (8771555 shares, 27,009.29 BTC)
smickles: thestringpuller: I noticed a hilight from you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00347687 = 4.5199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00347687 = 2.4338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4752 @ 0.00064 = 3.0413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9479 @ 0.00064 = 6.0666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 756 @ 0.00064 = 0.4838 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5380 @ 0.00064 = 3.4432 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00064 = 2.528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00064 = 6.048 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00064 = 3.072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00064 = 1.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00064 = 4.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00064 = 9.984 BTC [+]
Ukto: you know.. i havent see goat on irc lately..
Ukto: chang... you there?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00064 = 3.2384 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00064 = 1.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00064 = 3.616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00064 = 4.832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2140 @ 0.0036 = 7.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064 = 6.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00064 = 2.272 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47001, Best ask: 13.49500, Bid-ask spread: 0.02499, Last trade: 13.36634, 24 hour volume: 11919.39373294, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.45637
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2165 @ 0.00064 = 1.3856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3457 @ 0.0036 = 12.4452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0036128 = 5.4192 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2061 @ 0.00364366 = 7.5096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00365195 = 2.1912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 184750 @ 0.0036675 = 677.5706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 385000 @ 0.00368 = 1416.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 98307 @ 0.00369 = 362.7528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00366364 / 0.00369 (777923 shares, 2,850.03 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0031218 / 0.0037 (9438672 shares, 29,465.71 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 349193 @ 0.00369 = 1288.5222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 191347 @ 0.0036999 = 707.9648 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 68558 @ 0.0036999 = 253.6577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41704471 = 417.0447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49178391 = 491.7839 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00367707 / 0.0036999 (1387021 shares, 5,100.18 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0031565 / 0.0037 (10047770 shares, 31,715.85 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00064 = 5.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00064 = 4.864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00064 = 2.688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 3 @ 0.18636531 = 0.5591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.10171553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.1571495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.16782549 = 0.6713 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.09210954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 2 @ 0.20838298 = 0.4168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41704471 = 417.0447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49178391 = 491.7839 BTC [+]
Ukto: u get some action? :P
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37397, Best ask: 13.46467, Bid-ask spread: 0.09070, Last trade: 13.37394, 24 hour volume: 11910.87556799, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.46368
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * smickles fruktose
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15504577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
smickles: Namjies: there is not mpsic for btc
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17406879 BTC [+]
smickles: Namjies: however, stat reports btc as CxBTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15500665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17402496 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00064 = 2.752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15500665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45001, Best ask: 13.49880, Bid-ask spread: 0.04879, Last trade: 13.45001, 24 hour volume: 12002.95742282, 24 hour low: 13.35000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.46419
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17398581 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Is there a web feed of 24 hour vwap that I can scrape from somewhere?
Bugpowder: I am scraping mtgox last price off bitcoincharts which gives volativilty in my spreadsheet
smickles: but bitcoincharts 24h vwap is different
smickles: it seems the bitcoincharts # is based on all exchanges
gribble: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
gribble: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00064 = 5.184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15493302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17394246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11996 @ 0.00064 = 7.6774 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: its not in table or list format so I can't figure out how to pull it properly into the google doc. any suggestions smiles?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3983 @ 0.00064 = 2.5491 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I gotta write a sciprt to do it then
Bugpowder: I will figure this out later... mush watch this game
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 28 @ 0.0036999 = 0.1036 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15474813 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17373531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00064 = 1.408 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: TONY ROMO comes thru in the clutch
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41598735 = 415.9874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49067089 = 490.6709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15433309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17399111 BTC [+]
smickles: hmm, yeah, apparently my volatility measure is up there
smickles: I'm mostly workin out other kinks right now tho
smickles: but 10.43 seems like a long way to go down to to break even on that
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.15433309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14318 @ 0.00064 = 9.1635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C140T] 1 @ 0.19999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 1 @ 0.17399111 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41598735 = 415.9874 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49067089 = 490.6709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1day: 0.49067089 / 0.4912274 / 0.49178391 (4000 shares, 1,964.91 BTC), 30day: 0.47526087 / 0.56767292 / 0.62061168 (18000 shares, 10,218.11 BTC)
Bugpowder: over 80k bet on S.DICE this morning
Bugpowder: currently SDICE is up another 3000
Bugpowder: but 20 minutes ago they were down 3000
Bugpowder: They may surpass 500,000 BTC volume this month
Bugpowder: Wait a sec.... is that more than MPEX???
mircea_popescu: i guess the problem with sdice is that anyone can make competition for them etc
Bugpowder: If this volume keeps up after Jan 1...
Bugpowder: We are looking at expected revenue of 10,000/mo
mircea_popescu: well, very different things. mpoe was mostly profitable through share appreciation, dice mostly through dividends
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43996, Best ask: 13.44994, Bid-ask spread: 0.00998, Last trade: 13.43996, 24 hour volume: 15187.67923515, 24 hour low: 13.36000, 24 hour high: 13.59000, 24 hour vwap: 13.46604
mircea_popescu: tbh it's likely s.mpoe was overbought because the large blocks on sale for s.dice had a depressing effect.
mircea_popescu: i am curious if it will resolve by massive buys into s.dice or by sales of s.mpoe
Bugpowder: It's like 2000 BTC a minute swings
Bugpowder: Also fascinating, who is doing this?
mircea_popescu: single entity ? wide diversity ? something in between ?
mircea_popescu: isn't something like taint analysis usable in principle to do it ?
mircea_popescu: you're the research scientist cum brain surgeon, do something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26234 @ 0.00064 = 16.7898 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: You know more about bitcoin and network analysis than me
mircea_popescu: so basically someone bought 200k worth of btc and bet it all ?
Bugpowder: They are all going to be traced back to evorhees
mircea_popescu: i tell you what, if you can prove that one you're the new bitcoin star.
mircea_popescu: evoorhees ? possibly because most of it come from mpex lol
Bugpowder: This evoorhees recycling mpex share sales to goose volumes hypothesis is... disturbingly plausible.
Bugpowder: Its a small number of addresses that bet heavily for a day at irregular intervals
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00064 = 2.368 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: The dates of IPO share sales don't consistently lead the volume spike days though
Bugpowder: which you might expect if someone stupid would try to pull this off
kakobrekla: ;;rate pizzaman1337 1 a valued customer
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user pizzaman1337 has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, long or short interval, makes no difference in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: but on the other hand, mpex volume isn't 500k. it's 100k. not all of that is s.dice either. he'd have 20k or something to pump price with
mircea_popescu: drop in the bucket. unless he'd spin it like 50 times each coin, in which case it should be bleedingly obvious.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder that is an entirely plausible hypothesis also
Bugpowder: clicking through blockchain.info is not the right way to do this
mircea_popescu: well ya, thing is... crime usually gets caught not by whatever having been too difficult, but by it being trivial and nobody thinking of it.
Bugpowder: that's just about enough to sell through the S.DICE IPO
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 152067 @ 0.0036999 = 562.6327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 460 @ 0.00369999 = 1.702 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550181 @ 0.0037 = 9435.6697 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7887 @ 0.00064 = 5.0477 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00343244 / 0.00369289 / 0.0037 (4067561 shares, 15,021.09 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00327158 / 0.0037 (12729838 shares, 41,646.72 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400000 @ 0.00064 = 2176 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Thats the exact right strategy to buy S.MPOE though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3268 @ 0.00361906 = 11.8271 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
Bugpowder: that person that sold 1.5M @ .0018..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7196 @ 0.0037 = 26.6252 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: almost everything I panic sold has crashed
Bugpowder: S.MPOE was not a panic sell, just a profit taking trade that I didn't get back in on in time before uber rally
mircea_popescu: the thing is, on fundamentals sdice is so much better than lottery
mircea_popescu: no lottery can be run this efficiently. not in the same degree of magnitude either
mircea_popescu: that's nonsense, what value does ford provide to non drivers
Bugpowder: "In 2012, the Global Casinos and Online Gambling industry is expected to generate revenue of $126.6 billion"
mircea_popescu: conswevatively s.dice could have 1% of the entire market
mircea_popescu: hey, we want to travel but we can't afford 50 bux or w/e 8ball costs
Bugpowder: easiest way to case a place for robbery
mircea_popescu: it's a no starter for both ends of the deal. pretty much spiral of doom both ways.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00368818 = 9.036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2016 @ 0.00368818 = 7.4354 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15051 @ 0.00064 = 9.6326 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00064134 = 9.7484 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's how it works for most people, they do something early in their 30s and then enver live up to it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 634 @ 0.00368818 = 2.3383 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 266 @ 0.0037 = 0.9842 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Could not create connection to database server. Attempted reconnect 3 times. Giving up.
Bugpowder: S.DICE bettor is dossing blockchain to prevent discovery
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 181 @ 0.00361906 = 0.655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5519 @ 0.00360726 = 19.9085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1531 @ 0.00360726 = 5.5227 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: looks like the S.MPOE buy bot has switched to S.DICE :)
pigeons: stop calling me a bot. i'm dollar cost averaging.
Bugpowder: looks like they are ready to roll off the presses
pigeons: haha i love the shill commentary on that one
pigeons: "they might not actually have asic chips in hand like the competition, but wouldn't you rather have big mystery machinery?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1019 @ 0.00349157 = 3.5579 BTC [-]
pigeons: surely they wouldn't buy pnp machines if they were scammers? where else can you get a photo?
Bugpowder: blah 12-12-31 16:50:49 lessthan 6000 f76015a6 8bad83bc 1MqrpPC CONFIRMED 100.00000000 WIN 1066.55176666 5767
Bugpowder: man if every day had this level of betting action.... 15% avr monthly dividends....
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3381 @ 0.00356415 = 12.0504 BTC [+]
smickles: < thestringpuller> mircea_popescu: do you ever spend your bitcoins? <<< question successfully evaded :D
smickles: that's not really 'you' though
smickles: anyone want to sell me 2 MPExBTC?
smickles: or fund an unproven, possibly buggy, options market maker bot, possibly losing all your btc, or possibly gaining a little btc?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00065652 = 6.2041 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00065999 = 10.3123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47778 @ 0.00066 = 31.5335 BTC [+]
smickles: in all likelyhood it's lose some vs gain some, but losing all sounds scarier, and I don't want to deal with pussies
markedathome: mf bollox ... now down one click of death seagate 1TB truecrypt disk. and of course it is too late to get the usb-terminal cable to find out whether i can reflash the drive bios.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1 @ 0.18457935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.09886507 BTC [-]
Namjies: wait, someone had over 60k SS?
smickles: Namjies: it was a mixed payment of peeps who got all 3 payments in one, and peeps who got their third payment
Namjies: seems like a mess to manage
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65650 @ 0.00066 = 43.329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1469 @ 0.00354422 = 5.2065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2100 @ 0.00358157 = 7.5213 BTC [+]
markedathome: [18:29:47] <smickles> one click of death? --< one "click-of-death" seagate drive
markedathome: apparently it has some firmware that when it fails tries to write to somewhere in the outer solar system...
Namjies: It's a firmware that "smartly target the most empty space"
Namjies: The microscopic disclaimer vaguely mention that the empty space might not even be on a disk.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00361366 = 7.2273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00361366 = 3.2523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.0036969 = 8.1332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 728 @ 0.0036969 = 2.6913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2550 @ 0.00359888 = 9.1771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5504 @ 0.00066 = 3.6326 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: so, the only non automated message i got wishing me good luck in 2013 got into my email by mistake (not ment for me)
kakobrekla: even got some strangers pic along with it
Namjies: Well Diablo-D3, it seems like that person I was talking about actually is the claimed person.
Namjies: Highest investor profile I've seen yet.
mod6: Namjies: what's the deal with BitVPS -- are you guys going to publish a statement?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1055 @ 0.00359888 = 3.7968 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3445 @ 0.00350619 = 12.0788 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.00350619 = 8.4149 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: o, thank you pizzaman1337! I wish a prosperous year for you too :)
kakobrekla: brb gotta throw some wood in the chimney
smickles: chimney? Might I suggest that you aim lower, for the furnace ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00362226 = 5.0712 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: yeah, chimney... i guess a bad translation of a metaphore
kakobrekla: i would need to go to the roof to fill it through the chimney
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00350619 = 5.2593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1550 @ 0.00354441 = 5.4938 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @ 0.00359341 = 7.9055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00066 = 17.292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00359967 = 3.5997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00361855 = 8.8654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4012 @ 0.00361855 = 14.5176 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2738 @ 0.00361855 = 9.9076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 339 @ 0.00362226 = 1.2279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00362226 = 7.4256 BTC [+]
markedathome: and not even a bot in sight to have first trade
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00359821 = 2.5187 BTC [-]
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 27 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> chimney? Might I suggest that you aim lower, for the furnace ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00065735 = 3.8126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00065735 = 1.6105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00359821 = 0.7196 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1950 @ 0.00359341 = 7.0071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00065735 = 5.3245 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00065251 = 13.4417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13849 @ 0.0006515 = 9.0226 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00064494 = 3.0957 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00063986 = 0.128 BTC [-]
Namjies: Well anyone interested in the new BTC-BOND? An amazingly rock bottom low 0.03% daily.
kakobrekla: speaking of funds, KV1 deposits are now closed for Jan
kakobrekla: yeah, bitcoin forex fund ran by our robots
Namjies: Damn, I wasn't aware of that.