mircea_popescu: no but i mean the fucking lameness of it. dood's got a "well rounded internet experience", he's got a mortgage and a boring wife and a boring job and a hp he bought at the store, and he "logs in" for a coupla hours four times a week or w/e. every nine weeks and a half we pop up again in the rotation, he's done 4chan, reddit, facebook, whatever, "i wonder what THOSE zany kids are up to these days".
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, if the soccer mom / couch dad could possibly do this irl, they'd totally teleport various places while seated in their livingroom couch.
shinohai: Hey .... I got an hp xD
mircea_popescu: surfer beach, you know, miles of perfect ocean, some dudes hanging around, *ping* there's us consumertard in his house pants, chips crumbs in his lap, "o hey dudes, how's the surf ? hurr durr" half hour later, *ping* he's disappeared, with the firm notion that he "participated" in "surfer culture"
mircea_popescu: for a coupla hours five times a year, such participation as'd befit the bad name his culture got.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i got a hp laptop recently too, say, but desktops really should be assembled from parts.
shinohai: I agree. my trb node runs on very old compaq which is actually far superior. I played Eulora on it when I first started (using ssh -X !) because the keyboard is long borked.
BingoBoingo: Ah, that. Still quite a few of the 5 hour a year crowd too.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hey, does fetlife want to hire you too, or did they taylor the pop-up ?
ben_vulpes: hah!
ben_vulpes: i've not been on fetlife in some time so i couldn't say
mircea_popescu: well so log and see if they're trying to hire you too
BingoBoingo: Hey, it worked out so well for OKC
mircea_popescu: lol
ben_vulpes: inb4 mircea_popescu has bought fetlife ads that SPECTRE with javascript
mircea_popescu: why, you think the herd'd be worth it ?
mircea_popescu seriously doubts this.
ben_vulpes: teh caretaking team purplebanner?
mircea_popescu: yeah
ben_vulpes: they want to hire someone kink friendly if you can imagine that
mircea_popescu: heh
ben_vulpes: lol that's right this site is garbage
ben_vulpes: god damn the whole internet is garbage. last night i was idly looking into long-term synovial fluid health (surprise: webmd is useless and all that google will return results for i wonder why) and found several webshites that while scrolling would arbitrarily jump the page an inch or so at specific points the reasoning for which i could not determine
mircea_popescu: not a particularly well understood topic in any case.
mircea_popescu: but yes, things went downhill from the 80s when chet diagnosed her rare eye condition / located specialist via gopher to today.
ben_vulpes: there was also an ad for some kind of novel pharmacofinelyspunhydrocarbon for the sexually-active-but-wanting-to-not-catch-teh-HIV (which, excuse me darling, why are they advertising us aidsmeds on the craplet) that was 30% vertical space for ad and 70% vertical space dedicated to a slow-scroll of finetext with i shit thee not buttons that had triggerable down and up states but *did not affect the scrolling*
ben_vulpes: and ofc a non-draggable scroll bar
mircea_popescu: sounds like a quarter million well spent
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA << oblig from when a million meant something
mod6: Evenin'
ben_vulpes: noches, mod6
mircea_popescu: how's tricks
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/9c3h9/?raw=true
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mod6: Good Gentlemen. How's everything going today?
shinohai: Not bad here mod6 .... home from salt mines?
mod6: ya
mod6: I had a guy tell me with a straight face, "I only write performant code."
mod6: Same guy also told me, "Yeah, there are some performance problems... but we're gonna switch to java 8, so that should take care of it."
mod6: mmmhmm
mod6: java 8, fixes your shit, fucks your wife, pays your bills, disciplines your kids. all part of the thing dontchaknow.
shinohai: java .... oh boy
shinohai pages freakyfractal
shinohai: Poor guy is a java developer :/
mod6: im gonna give this shit up, go back to being a lumberjack.
shinohai: lol
mircea_popescu: i guess we're lucky to have him, huh
mod6: hehehe. it's been a steady march into perdition in the salt mines the last week or so.
mod6: some days though, i really do miss running the chainsaw and the smell - the trees, the gasoline
mod6: fresh air.
mod6: Did I ever tell you guys about doing tree work down in Arizona?
mircea_popescu: dun think so
mod6: I needed some cash in like 2008 and was like, "alright, lemme get a saw and do some slash & burn for cash...". Was thinking, "Oh yeah, eazy-money, here we go!"
mircea_popescu: ahaha what
mod6: Umm no. Those mesquite trees and palo verde trees have NASTY barbs on them. After cutting down 1 mesquite tree it looked like I got into a fight with a wolverine.
shinohai: Did you have a Big blue Ox too?
mod6: Shit is like razor wire or something. And what's worse, is they're a sort of locust style tree -- and when they have leaves on 'em shit sticks together like velcro.
mod6: Gave that shit up in a hurry.
mod6: Not like the trees up in MN.
mircea_popescu: sounda about right
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu et al
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: charter looks ok to me
mod6: hey hey hey lbj
mircea_popescu waves
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to clarify what it was you wanted a photosouvenir of -- asciilifeform's torture room clocks ?
mircea_popescu: the chess clock & corkboard you're using to schedule&timekeep
asciilifeform: aa i'll make one, np. it's ugly tho. still massaging out the process.
mircea_popescu: i imagined.
asciilifeform eaten the quite compact l0gz
mod6: Wasn't actually too much later I was walkin down the street in Tucson thinking... "I wonder when someone is going to make a currency out of cryptography like Schneier was talking about in Applied Crypto.."
mod6: Probably about that same time infact.
mircea_popescu: ha!
mod6: I had remembered reading about that in there, probably in like 99 or 2000. This was eight years later. I knew though, once it was a thing, then I had to get involved.
mod6: The Bernak had just bailed out the banks. I remember some Time Magazine cover "The Hero." Or some such nonsense, scary stuff.
mod6: Ah, that was a different cover. I guess in 2009 it was "Person of the Year". Seriously. Person. Of. The. Year.
mod6: Anyway, sorry for that trip down amnesia lane.
mircea_popescu: i think that was 2009
mircea_popescu: tlp also threw up chunks
mod6: <+shinohai> Did you have a Big blue Ox too? << would have been better to ride an ox than fight through all the Tucson stoplights. But, no, sadly.
mircea_popescu: you recall, they tried to do online poll, 4chan owned it, made m00t person of the year
mircea_popescu: asshats failed to admit they failed, declared "you" winner.
mircea_popescu: because pantsuit can't breathe if not pantsuiting.
mod6: haha, indeed. I seem to remember reading something way later about m00t. maybe someone mentioned it here.
mod6: ah yeah
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2012-12-14#-190548☝︎
a111: Logged on 2012-12-14 03:57 Chaang-Noi: talked to m00t yesterday about bitcoin :) pretty epic
shinohai: kek I remember that
mod6: wow, reading that old log... B.VPS was still trading..
mod6: *ahem* S.BVPS
mod6: guess it was a long time ago.
mircea_popescu: time waits for no one
mod6: indeed.
mod6: check it out: http://btcbase.org/log/2012-12-14#-190195☝︎
a111: Logged on 2012-12-14 07:15 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.74690, Best ask: 13.74691, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.74690, 24 hour volume: 22405.29779859, 24 hour low: 13.46777, 24 hour high: 13.80000, 24 hour vwap: 13.69301
mircea_popescu: heheeh
mod6: speaking of time waits for no one.
shinohai: I had to screenshot this because protected tweets, but wanted to preserve the lulz: https://imgur.com/a/y6YoK
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-20#1785295 << http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yopbx/?raw=true << preview☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-20 19:25 mircea_popescu: speaking of, what's teh eta on history look like trinque ?
BingoBoingo: ty shinohai, got some edits but good stuff
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/maduro-government-in-venezuela-attempts-ico/ << Qntra - Maduro Government In Venezuela Attempts ICO
shinohai: ty BingoBoingo !
mod6: Mornin'
shinohai: Heya mod6 :D
shinohai: How goes today?
mod6: Ah, not bad, you?
shinohai: Pretty good here, enjoying the 72 degree weather @ 10 am lol
shinohai: Southern weather is ridiculous
trinque: Houston went from 70s to 30s in one day this winter
shinohai: Wow. I fully expect that to happen here though, it being only February. At least 1-2 more weeks of cold at some point.
mod6: damn 70's eh?
shinohai: I almost want to go fishing today.
mod6: Sounds like fun.
mod6: Right now, it's 7 here.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/bittorrent-inc-milks-window-to-let-code-execution-bug-live/ << Qntra - "Bittorrent Inc" Milks Window To Let Code Execution Bug Live
trinque: glad to see qntra in my morning reading again, btw.
mod6: ^
BingoBoingo: trinque: ty, I am trying to get that habit into habituation again
lobbes: Phew, been thinking through this archive download process the past few weeks. For one, I realized that I needed to do -some- type of "deduping" on the contents of each zip I've downloaded. Ended up building a process that hashes the hashes of each file in each zip. Identified some 30k dupes this way. Currently building the front-end queries to show only distinct results in searches.
lobbes: This exercise lead me to think about many other small but important details regarding how download requests will work. I'ma thinking I ought to bake a blog post for general input
trinque: neat lobbes, will read
lobbes: ty trinque
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785428 << ahh that is fucking beautiful☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-21 05:35 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-20#1785295 << http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yopbx/?raw=true << preview
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785449 << do you understand merkle trees ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-21 17:59 lobbes: Phew, been thinking through this archive download process the past few weeks. For one, I realized that I needed to do -some- type of "deduping" on the contents of each zip I've downloaded. Ended up building a process that hashes the hashes of each file in each zip. Identified some 30k dupes this way. Currently building the front-end queries to show only distinct results in searches.
mircea_popescu: the only sane way to go about his is to do poor man's (rather, "artificially intelligent") document ASTs in the shape of merkle trees of all their contents.
mircea_popescu: normally i'd have alf explain it to you ; but he's busy. so what i want you to do is write a blog article about "how to use merkle trees to avoid duplicate problem in web page archiving", and then i'll comment on it.
shinohai: https://www.emsec.rub.de/media/crypto/attachments/files/2011/04/becker_1.pdf <<< Paper on subject of merkle trees I found handy lobbes, for your perusal
lobbes: mircea_popescu: aha. Other than the subj. popping up in logs occasionally and my looking it up I really don't have a firm grasp on merkle trees. I will happily digest and produce blog post once completed with homework.
lobbes: And ty shinohai for reading
mircea_popescu: it'll be quite empowering, so well worth your time.
mod6: lobbes: cool
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2018/02/bittorrent-inc-milks-window-to-let-code-execution-bug-live/#comment-110486
mircea_popescu: phf is the search brokened ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-2-20#306176
mircea_popescu: o wow i hit it exactly ?
mircea_popescu is terrible at time.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/ << Trilema - The Republic without MP
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/buttfunder-founder-montroll-arrested/ << Qntra - Buttfunder Founder Montroll Arrested
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-genesis/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - vtools genesis