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jurov: ;;ud smite
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smite | the use of god-like force in a way that cleaves,crushes or shatters said object or person.
jurov: quite an oxymoron you got there
Diablo-D3: I used lube.
jurov: ofc i forgot, bitcoin gods have 55lbs barrels of lube handy
jurov: no, 55 gallon drums more exactly
pigeons: so i got emails from btct that usagi had created assets for CPA and NYAN but their gone
pigeons: they're
pigeons: oops looking wrong place there they are
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00064 = 29.568 BTC [+]
jurov: so bitcoin tabloid has new site...
jurov: and all old comments happen to be wiped
jurov: no new articles
jurov: no, there's one dated dec 25 2012.. from vitalik buterin? didn't they get rid of him?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03956962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0232923 BTC [-]
jurov: I believe that rewards based social media is the next logical step in this fascinating evolution of human interaction.
jurov: oh my. kill with fire
jurov: I believe that the Arab Spring is just the beginning of this social “awakening” that we are witnessing world wide. I believe that every single dictator in power today will not be there in 10 years’ time.
jurov: mircea_popescu: truly something for both you and the girl to get hives from
jurov: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/uptweet-social-media-and-bitcoin-meet-again/
mircea_popescu: lol i dun think anyone cares about the bitcoin rag.
Diablo-D3: pigeons: okay its this
Diablo-D3: usagi created assets at bitfunder
Diablo-D3: then at btct
Diablo-D3: and then bitfunder said "usagi isnt opening here, hes opening at btct"
Diablo-D3: well, ukto said
Diablo-D3: then usagi said "wtf, you stabbed me in the back, ukto is a spy!"
Diablo-D3: and then ukto said "yes, my little cauliflower, I am the best spy that ever lived."
PsychoticBoy: lol
jurov: isn't the forum stuff making your throat stiff and dry?
jurov: oh yes, you use the lube
Diablo-D3: mo, vwid sandviwtch I use beer
Diablo-D3: medic, eh, he say not drink so much beer, bad for liver, what would medic know, eh? he is only german.
jurov: and you are? czech?
Diablo-D3: RUSSIAN!
Diablo-D3: I AM HEAVY WEAPONS GUY.
jurov: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00064 = 4.0614 BTC [+]
jurov: nuclear paper tiger
jurov: russians should make love, not booze
jurov: or heavy weapons
jurov: :P
pigeons: then usagi said, "the illuminati who shut nefario down have threatened ukto, cause why else could ukto possible refuse to be associated with the great and terrible usagi?"
jurov: Grace of almighty above and his sexy virgin, have mercy with that poor soul.
pigeons: i saw jurov kissing santa claus
jurov: which one?
pigeons: heh
kakobrekla: May our Lord Jesus Christ wash this earth with His holy light and purge its darkest places from heathens and philistines.
pigeons: "And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes."
pigeons: #bitcoin-eligius
kakobrekla: ;>
kakobrekla: i just pasted a quote from dead man, seemed apropriate
kakobrekla: if you havent seen that move (anyone really)... go watch it
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37880, Best ask: 13.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02120, Last trade: 13.37854, 24 hour volume: 16004.35697487, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.46997, 24 hour vwap: 13.33833
thestringpuller: ;;seen smjckle
gribble: I have not seen smjckle.
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ident
thestringpuller: so. snow belt. nothing to play with.
jurov: smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code
jurov: thestringpuller, iirc you wanted to have some api?
thestringpuller: yea for mod6 and i
thestringpuller: ima talk with him soon
thestringpuller: its for the mpex app
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu may think its weird still tho
thestringpuller: and api for an api
thestringpuller: an*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064 = 1.792 BTC [+]
jurov: okay
jurov: must add key auth then, i guess you don't want to mess with cookies
jurov: i have maybe 10 branches in git of various functions.... and as i know myself, i'll finish most of them at once. madness
thestringpuller: the octo-workflow lol
smickles: < jurov> smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code <<< heh, actually, it took me about 20 min to write the code while taking care of my daughter and then a few hours trying to figure out why you thought it was so difficult
smickles: p.s. i gave up
thestringpuller: LOL
smickles: actually, I said that for humor. It would be more accurate to say that I figured we had different goals
smickles: my code does what I want it to do, I'm sure your code does what you want it to do
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45001, Best ask: 13.45900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 13.45001, 24 hour volume: 15765.04593929, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.46997, 24 hour vwap: 13.34181
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00349579 / 0.00352604 / 0.00355774 (7437 shares, 26.22 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0030785 / 0.0037 (8872282 shares, 27,313.38 BTC)
thestringpuller: !ticker S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00064 / 0.00064 / 0.00064 (656012 shares, 419.85 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.0005583 / 0.00064 (81022468 shares, 45,234.99 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00064 = 5.568 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10486 @ 0.00064 = 6.711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10153 @ 0.00064 = 6.4979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00064 = 5.431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00064 = 11.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1026 @ 0.00064 = 0.6566 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu What's max pain for btc OpEx this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4269 @ 0.00064 = 2.7322 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder around 13ish
mircea_popescu: i don't normally compute it
smickles: heh, I could imagine it being a difficult number to look at often
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.00064 = 0.8634 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;lucky thaumiting
gribble: http://www.giantbomb.com/achievements/honey-badger-dont-care/117345/
smickles: ಠ_ಠ
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9825 @ 0.00064 = 6.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2540 @ 0.00064 = 1.6256 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: do you like jazz?
thestringpuller: or are you a jazz hater?
mircea_popescu: i like it
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44991, Best ask: 13.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.44991, 24 hour volume: 17358.44862787, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.35560
thestringpuller: I'ma promote a jazz concert with BTC
smickles: lol, somehow, i'm reminded of this girl in my highschool year, sara campen, she changed her name, legally, from what her parents named her (she already went by sara in defiance of them until she turned 18)
smickles: Ima Gohen Campen
thestringpuller: oh smickles you silly goose
thestringpuller: how goes the bot to destroy the mpoe bot?
smickles: heh, I'm not out to destroy mpoebot
thestringpuller: You're out to make more money than mpoebot ;)
smickles: that would be quite nice
smickles: I wouoldn't mind thousands of btc per month or something like that.
smickles: i'd be the new mircea_popescu :D
thestringpuller: get you some bondholders first ;)
thestringpuller: and hope there isn't a pirate ponzi
smickles: meh, then it wouldn't be my thousands of btc
mircea_popescu: lol
smickles: really, this market maker bot is an elaborate mission to taste real whiskey
thestringpuller: put your daughter's future college tuition up?
thestringpuller: real whiskey?
thestringpuller: from kentucky? (i kid)
smickles: i think the majority of my daughter's future tuition is my wife's motgomery gi bill
smickles: so no go there
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: tell me about this mission to taste real whiskey
thestringpuller: which whiskey exactly?
smickles: I dunno, I suppose I need to define the outcome :|
smickles: porlly some kind of scotch
smickles: i'll need a mentor!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0205393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00064 = 5.7222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00064 = 6.5741 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker O.BTCUSD.C130T
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1day: 0.03956962 / 0.0413564 / 0.04481226 (3 shares, 0.12 BTC), 30day: 0.03956962 / 0.14250577 / 0.20783398 (12077 shares, 1,721.04 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00064 = 5.408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00064 = 6.464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00354391 = 1.5948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00064 = 5.6397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064 = 2.496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00064 = 5.92 BTC [+]
Ukto: Diablo-D3, pigeons: lol
Diablo-D3: UKTO IS SPY!
Diablo-D3: hrm, if ukto has dead ringer, does that mean ukto is now the little girl?
Ukto: cute little girls.. the most dangerous weapons in teh world
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00064 = 12.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064 = 2.592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064 = 13.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00064 = 0.576 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45848, Best ask: 13.45882, Bid-ask spread: 0.00034, Last trade: 13.45848, 24 hour volume: 20579.82684084, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.37609
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7057 @ 0.00064 = 4.5165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00064 = 24.832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064 = 5.088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12914 @ 0.00064 = 8.265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4149 @ 0.00064 = 2.6554 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00064 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00064 = 7.872 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3038 @ 0.00064 = 1.9443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064 = 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00358469 = 0.086 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.28885, Best ask: 13.38625, Bid-ask spread: 0.09740, Last trade: 13.26462, 24 hour volume: 20206.19504333, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39122
thestringpuller: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00064 = 4.5773 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.38451, Best ask: 13.39286, Bid-ask spread: 0.00835, Last trade: 13.39286, 24 hour volume: 19951.43758602, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39346
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00064 = 0.9024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00064 = 5.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00064 = 3.488 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;seen mod6
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 18 hours, 15 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <mod6> \o/
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <smickles> i'll need a mentor!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00064 = 7.584 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: DNS: 0.047 sec
mircea_popescu: Connect: 0.072 sec
mircea_popescu: Redirect: 0.000 sec
mircea_popescu: First byte: 0.267 sec
mircea_popescu: Last byte: 0.274 sec
mircea_popescu: Size: 57889 bytes
mircea_popescu: ahaha gotta love good servers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28359 @ 0.00064 = 18.1498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00064 = 16.096 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea, that's more like phat pipe
Bugpowder: pshhaw
Bugpowder: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2397718887.png
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you should a BCCAPI server for mod6 and I for mpex users
thestringpuller: host*
thestringpuller: mr. phat pipes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00064 = 17.504 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mebbe
mircea_popescu: meanwhile http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135662798517.jpg
Bugpowder: So if max pain is 13 and change, this should be a good month for MPOE no?
thestringpuller: and a blockchain :P
thestringpuller: P
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder o, yeah, it's making money.
mircea_popescu: jurov good servers and phat pipe are one.
Bugpowder: I assume most of the MPOE holdings are short calls and puts?
mircea_popescu: i think so.
Bugpowder: Dow under 13k
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
Bugpowder: tank
Bugpowder: please
mircea_popescu: lol
Bugpowder: Need to buy more.
mircea_popescu: more dow ?
Bugpowder: more equities
Bugpowder: SP500
Bugpowder: more everything
mircea_popescu: seems like a waste of time on the long run
Bugpowder: diversification
mircea_popescu: they'll appreciate forever in meaningless dollars.
Bugpowder: I cannot predict the future
jurov: Bugpowder, you trading dow futures in btc somewhere?
Bugpowder: Uhhh.. I sold all my INDQ futures
Bugpowder: alreadh
Bugpowder: the trouble with these BTC futures is that BTC/USD is the primary source of volitility
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00355333 = 6.5737 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: volAtility omg
mircea_popescu: drives me nutssss
thestringpuller: volatility is good
thestringpuller: it adds uncertainty
jurov: isn't anyone trying to arbutrage 1broker.com ?
mircea_popescu: what's 1 broker ?
jurov: *arbitrage
Bugpowder: buttrage
jurov: btc futures trading, done by some austrian student
Bugpowder: how is the volume?
smickles: 17:30 < mircea_popescu> volAtility omg <<< lil
smickles: er, sry, LOL
mircea_popescu: hhaha
thestringpuller: lil mircea
mircea_popescu: you are all trolling me I KNEW IT
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00064 = 8.96 BTC [+]
jurov: hard to say.. maybe it's like kakobrekla's forex thing
Bugpowder: how the f has this been the lead story on yahoo finance all morning
Bugpowder: http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/apple-lot-tricks-sleeve-2013-david-kirkpatrick-140333147.html
Bugpowder: One analyst saying. watch out! they have tricks of their sleeve!
mircea_popescu: i just looked and there's no dow on mpex ?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder prolly cost like 500 bux.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00064 = 3.968 BTC [+]
jcpham: hello
mircea_popescu: heya
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.35
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4904 @ 0.00064 = 3.1386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00064 = 17.312 BTC [+]
gigavps: can someone help me interpret what this guys is saying -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132008.msg1422310#msg1422310
gigavps: he's not making much sense
jcpham: well it's from bitcointalk.org first of all
jcpham: so tread lightly
jcpham: it's pretty clear gigavps
gigavps: lol
jcpham: you started talking about virgins and now everyone thinks you are a muslim
jcpham: coming soon: scammer terrorist tag
gigavps: lol
gigavps: i just want to know if ppl like vigin coins
gigavps: before i go sink 200+ hours into development
gigavps: but i guess i attract all of the crazies
jcpham: true dat homie
thestringpuller: lol virgin
jcpham: time for gigavps-sock account
gigavps: i have my first employee starting on Jan 2
jcpham: i hope it's a she
jcpham: and she's mildly attractive
jcpham: and she really tells everyone to fuck off on the forum
gigavps: well, my wife is on the payroll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00064 = 3.776 BTC [+]
jurov: i don't get whole thing... you want to launder coins by means of own mining pool?
jcpham: at the expense of looking credible herself
gigavps: but she doesn't do anything with the business
jcpham: of course nothing like that currently exists
gigavps: :)
jurov: as in, ppl send txs with large fees exclusively to you, then when you mine a block, lo and behold, virgins
jurov: ?
gigavps: something like that
gigavps: you can also mine coins directly to paper wallets
gigavps: so the private keys can be mailed to ppl
jcpham: that'd be wild
gigavps: it's coming
jcpham: especially if it relied on like a print command that failed
jcpham: or the printer jammed
jcpham: and the coins were lost
gigavps: paper wallets would be printed BEFORE HAND
gigavps: stored in a safe
gigavps: all that good stuff
jcpham: nah i say mine blocks directly to line feed printer
jurov: so sending block fees to an addy requires its private key?
jcpham: no backups
gigavps: jurov no
gigavps: mining pools can use "tracker" addresses
gigavps: or like eligius, mine a portion of coins directly to a wallet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+]
jurov: gigavps, then no mailing necessary... ppl just send securely the txs with oversized fees, get back virgins to source address
gigavps: that is a possiblity if you are only accepting coins in payment
gigavps: but what if you want to accept bank wire, cc, etc
gigavps: you need to follow meatspace rulz
gigavps: aka, mailing something to a verified address
jurov: um i don't get it... accepting bank wire/cc anonymously looks like much bigger hurdle than transferring private keys securely
gigavps: well, accepting meatspace wouldn't be annon
jurov: actually it is has the same risks as sending cash by mail... except that receiver won't be aware someone copied the key en route
jurov: and blaming everything on you
thestringpuller: jurov
thestringpuller: the broker
jurov: yes?
gigavps: ooo, just made post 2100 to smack SAC upside the head
gigavps: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132008.msg1422352#msg1422352
gigavps: i guess his rage is confusing him
jurov: sac, the block purity protector
jcpham: did i make it better?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13247 @ 0.00064 = 8.4781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2346 @ 0.00064 = 1.5014 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: depressing irssi is hard to use in a mac
thestringpuller: no alt key
thestringpuller: just option :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00064 = 4.5382 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: fn-option
Bugpowder: = alt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: 4¢£
thestringpuller: nope
thestringpuller: just makes symbols doesn't change windows
mod6: hey whats up
markedathome: .
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00064 = 7.072 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-futures-december-2012-settlement/
mircea_popescu: futures settled.
kakobrekla: im just wrappin up math of my kv1 fund, up 20.6% after the fees in first month
mod6: oh cool :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00354228 = 4.605 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00352003 = 5.28 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bah the list's not right
Bugpowder: ??
mircea_popescu: badly formatted. fixed nao.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what's a kv1 fund ?
kakobrekla: my money making machine
Bugpowder: I had X.INDQ's value at .1943
smickles: hmm, mircea_popescu does this mean you'll publish the options maturity number too ?
mircea_popescu: smickles i already am ?
smickles: the usd/btc rate at expiry?
smickles: Or have I just not know where you put it this whole time
mircea_popescu: in that case, define "this"
mircea_popescu: dioes the fact that i publish btc settlement values for futures mean that i will also publish btc settlement values for options ? yes, it does.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i already am.
smickles: "this" being the fact that you published unrelated information of the futures :P
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: but i thought what you meant was, volumes, as in "x contracts"
mircea_popescu: which, you know, "Total 114763 of which Call, -20011 +20338 Put"
smickles: yeah, I know that
smickles: what I'm curious about was what you read from bitcoincharts as the average at maturity
smickles: it's a pain to look that up retrospectively
mircea_popescu: "2. A better reset is this un-documented procedure, used by beta tester ( I was on the FVS338). Is hold the reset button for 20 sec, pull the power while still holding the reset button for 20 sec, then power up still holding the reset for 20 sec. Then release the reset button."
mircea_popescu: lol. any sufficently advanced technology will be treated as magic.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: the quest for the better reset.
smickles: "undocumented magic" sound like something illegal in 'merica
thestringpuller: sounds like eleves working in your basement as slaves who are also illegally ommigrated
thestringpuller: immigrated
smickles: damn, I wish I measured the temp which i brewed this coffee at :/
smickles: it tastes so much better today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8865 @ 0.00064 = 5.6736 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: kakobrekla, 15 euro profit. NOICE.
kakobrekla: btc
Bugpowder: stupid SP500 bouncing
kakobrekla: its btc Buglouse
kakobrekla: eh Buglouse
kakobrekla: fuckkk
kakobrekla: Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: lol
kakobrekla: anyway 20.6 is going out
mircea_popescu: bah my interet has been horrible all day.
kakobrekla: 5 are fees
kakobrekla: new 100 comming in
kakobrekla: so 20.6 profit for clients
mircea_popescu: dumbass romanians only getting online to download xmas greetings.
jurov: lol, we shouldn't trade futures between ourselves.. we'll get to hate each other
Bugpowder: What is your general strategy?
smickles: I follow JP_Jackson's strategy
smickles: "Hold on to your butts."
kakobrekla: you are asking me?
Bugpowder: yes
kakobrekla: i write bots with enky, kv1 is the first prototype, it uses kalman filtered velocity as a main indicator
kakobrekla: new ones commin out as soon as i get rid of mp breating behind my back ;>
Bugpowder: trading what?
kakobrekla: what do you mean what, forex pairs
Bugpowder: which pairs?
kakobrekla: audnzd cadjpy gbpjpy eurusd at the moment
Bugpowder: ok. So where do bitcoins come into play?
kakobrekla: forex account is denominated in bitcoin
kakobrekla: so are profits and losses
Bugpowder: what forex place has that option?
kakobrekla: me
Bugpowder: Do you have to exchange to fiat and back to trade the pairs??
kakobrekla: no, bit4x.com
kakobrekla: read
Bugpowder: whats the spread?
kakobrekla: 3 on majors
Bugpowder: 3 pips?
kakobrekla: no other fees, no swap, no tax no nothing
kakobrekla: ya
kakobrekla: you can get institutional acc with 500btc+ with a fraction of that spread but some other fees come into play there
kakobrekla: if you dont scalp its better this way
Bugpowder: cool
Bugpowder: Can people buy in to KV1?
Bugpowder: kakobrekla what is the fee structure for kv1? what is the leverage used?
pizzaman1337: This should clear automatically in 2-3 business days in most cases. We apologize for any inconvenience." for almost 2 weeks now.
pizzaman1337: weird
kakobrekla: on gox?
smickles: i bet .5 btc
smickles: in favor of it being gox
pizzaman1337: campbx.com
pizzaman1337: smickles: I'll take your .5 btc :)
smickles: heh, i'm glad noone actually took the bet. pizzaman1337 I should hope you'd recuse yourself from betting, as it was you who had the answer ;)
pizzaman1337: yeah, slightly unfair...
kakobrekla: Bugpowder, 1:500 but that high its not needed, theres max of 0.4 lots that it can open with 4 pairs now so it wont overtrade, fee is 20% of the profits because its a highly maintained system (closing trades are mostly manualy)
Bugpowder: what about losing months, is there a fee? Are previous month's losses subtracted from subsequent month's gains prior to calculating the performance fee?
smickles: betting is an interesting way of outting the baysian mind. if you are 100% sure of something, then you should have absolutely no issue betting 100% of your money, in fact, you should have no issue doing that and borrowing more to bet as well. Point being, people tend to say (and self deludedly believe) they are 100% sure of something, yet would hesitate to risk all they own on a bet to that end
kakobrekla: fees are only on profits, for now profits are paid out monthly, after a few months we will go with a closed fund probably, paying out monthly profits is not a wise idea in the first place but with much fluctuation now i dont have much choice
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03464639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00064 = 2.272 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.36
smickles: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.39889, Best ask: 13.39970, Bid-ask spread: 0.00081, Last trade: 13.39888, 24 hour volume: 20296.08468303, 24 hour low: 13.26355, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.40203
smickles: that C130T seems downright ballsy to me
smickles: if i'm correct, it breaks even at 13.475~
smickles: *13.465!
Bugpowder: kakobrekla Well.... 7 trades total? If your performance keeps up I may be interested.
smickles: we could see a 10 cent move in a day
smickles: and today's high on bitcoincharts shows 13.47 at that!
kakobrekla: ya, first was a bug :)
kakobrekla: then one was bad, and one was 0 cause we got cold feet, it would end up +20
Bugpowder: "we got cold feet" who is pulling the trigger, the software or a person?
kakobrekla: exits are semi automated / controlled
kakobrekla: it will exit on its own
kakobrekla: but we prefer to manage it
kakobrekla: anyway, this is only the first version
kakobrekla: about a year of cpu time went in it
kakobrekla: but not i have mt5 could set up
kakobrekla: a result that would take a year before takes an hour now
kakobrekla: a year to get
kakobrekla: but shit need to be recoded then for mt4 unfortanetly :)
kakobrekla: anyway its tested on 4 years backtest or so
kakobrekla: the kv1
kakobrekla: didnt blow
kakobrekla: had periods when it made little to nothing
kakobrekla: and then had good periods
Bugpowder: how do you backtest if a human pulls the trigger?
kakobrekla: w/o human ofc.
kakobrekla: yes the result will be different
kakobrekla: but
Bugpowder: right, but if you have a human pulling the trigger in the real implementation the backtest is not valide
Bugpowder: yeah
kakobrekla: it will be different in any case
Bugpowder: sure
kakobrekla: backtest doestn mean that much
kakobrekla: but it can tell you something.
Bugpowder: i agree
kakobrekla: i mean
kakobrekla: if i have a bot that will burn in 4 years
kakobrekla: of backtest
kakobrekla: i wont put in live not in a dream
kakobrekla: even if its perfect for 1year
kakobrekla: well i gues it would depends on amount of trading
kakobrekla: at least 100 trades, rather 500
kakobrekla: to evaluate
Bugpowder: yeah....
Bugpowder: but you need time too
Bugpowder: market dynamics shift over many lengthscales
kakobrekla: if it will get through 4 years i dont expect it to blow in a month
kakobrekla: it might
kakobrekla: but it shouldnt
kakobrekla: :)
Bugpowder: would be nice to see how it handles 07-08
kakobrekla: i could run a test if you are really that interested
kakobrekla: i guess at this point is best enky speaks as well.
Bugpowder: well let's defer this for a bit. Need to get back to wrok
Bugpowder: will be watching with interest though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064 = 2.112 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, it's probably interesting to see how any bot handles 07-08
smickles: kakobrekla: you should test your bot on usd/gbp years 29-30
kakobrekla: cant
smickles: damn, is there really no data from back then?
kakobrekla: well, not in a useful form
smickles: too bad, that would be fun
Bugpowder: Nasdaq green
Bugpowder: wtf
Bugpowder: "Stocks Pare Losses as House to Reconvene Sunday"
Bugpowder: ugh
pizzaman1337: why, were you shorting?
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: I wanted to buy
Bugpowder: but can only at EOD price
Bugpowder: guess I will keep waiting
pizzaman1337: why only at EOD?
bonafide: haha
Bugpowder: Vanguard exchange from MM to fund
bonafide: everyone that shorted
bonafide: got fucked
bonafide: hope you got enough for more than intraday holding
Bugpowder: I never sell.
mircea_popescu: lol he's the bughole of stocks
mircea_popescu: only buys
bonafide: are you long or short
bonafide: wait what
Bugpowder: long
bonafide: what are you in
bonafide: I'm still tapping the jpy atm.. but getting out tmrw afternoon and taking gains
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
bonafide: fecal cliff wont steal my monies
Bugpowder: VOO (ETF); VFIAX (admiralty) VVIAX (admiralty) VBF (ETF); VISVX (regular); no exact admiralty VGPMX (regular); no admiralty VGENX (regular); VGELX (admiralty 100K) VGSIX (regular); VGSLX (admiralty) VWO (ETF); VEMAX (admiralty) VTIAX (admiralty) VTRIX (regular); no admiralty VWITX (regular); VWIUX (admiralty) VBIIX (regular); VBILX (admiralty) VIPSX (regular); VAIPX (admiralty for 50k) VBLTX (regular); no adm; VWLTX (
Bugpowder: at various percentages
bonafide: nice
Bugpowder: Also S.DICE
Bugpowder: :)
bonafide: I'm shuttin down my EUR/JPY positions and thinking of going long EUR/USD as a fecal cliff play
thestringpuller: short S.DICE
Bugpowder: why, why?
bonafide: the newly elected people in Japan got in, made their announcements
thestringpuller: ls
bonafide: there was a nice move
bonafide: they set a target
thestringpuller: lllllllllp
bonafide: but they don't get into office to actually set policy
bonafide: until next month
thestringpuller: people are manipulation S.DICE
thestringpuller: or someone is
Bugpowder: bonafide, i see
mircea_popescu: either people or someone.
Bugpowder: thestringpuller what is the evidence?
Bugpowder: of manipulation?
bonafide: I could stay long, but I like taking nice gains and reposition on the pullback
bonafide: I dont have many equities
bonafide: just JPM, GOOG and DHI
bonafide: buy orders for TI, SODA
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating bonafide
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
mircea_popescu: buy some wot.
bonafide: getrating?
Bugpowder: I like MARV here
Bugpowder: I think the verdict will be reduced
Bugpowder: sorry MRVL
bonafide: marv?
bonafide: oh okay
bonafide: who's their biggest contracts
Bugpowder: RIMM
Bugpowder: unfortunately
Bugpowder: and all the HDD makers
bonafide: MRVL is QCOM's direct competitor?
Bugpowder: not sure
bonafide: I've been looking for a food equity
bonafide: thinking ADM
smickles: bad idea, obama is jesus, so nothing bad will happen to usd
bonafide: Obama does nothing for the dollar
bonafide: right now its a race between USD and JPY
bonafide: who can devalue faster
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: buy WoT?
kakobrekla: wot = web of trust in here
thestringpuller: i know
thestringpuller: but buying it?
thestringpuller: we buy trust now?
kakobrekla: ya, 5btc a pop
thestringpuller: really?
kakobrekla: sure, 5btc will get you -10
pigeons: 10 btc for you
smickles: thestringpuller: actually, 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
thestringpuller: lol
bonafide: lol
smickles: send btc there, it will help the wot
bonafide: I'm not paying for "wot"
bonafide: it's not like I'm putting your money in harms way
thestringpuller: lol
smickles: http://blockchain.info/address/1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
smickles: it helps pay for the costs of running the wot
smickles: also, dev on v2 of the protocol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00064 = 0.6803 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: actually send to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp
bonafide: welp.. that news conference
bonafide: was pointless
pigeons: pigeons actually prefer meat
kakobrekla: fuckin breadcrumbs again
bonafide: I saw something on American Greed where some guy conned multi-millions from people by pitching the ideas that pigeons would soon replace chicken
bonafide: lollll
smickles: lol, nice con
pigeons: actually the native species of pigeon to north america went extinct cause it was overhunted overeaten, then when it was gone people settled for chicken
kakobrekla: flying rat (super powers) vs incapacitated bird (lame)
kakobrekla: id take pigeon.
plate: pigeons: so what pigeons do we have now?
pigeons: rock pigeon
pigeons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon
pigeons: the "pigeons" now in north america are escaped pet rock doves from europe
plate: they're fucking annoying
plate: they love mcdonalds
pigeons: A&P supermarket had a contest and the winner geneticly modified the hen to not have bloody meat so the jewish customers would eat it
pigeons: and that is what we eat today
pigeons: as "chicken"
plate: The jews always have their hands in everything
pigeons: jews/aliens/gays
plate: FUCK
plate: Kosher Coke is good tho
plate: but that's just the real formula
plate: nap time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00064 = 7.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00064 = 7.552 BTC [+]
smickles: < pigeons> jews/aliens/gays < they're all reptoids anyway :|
pigeons: i meant the aryans that control the greys
pigeons: ;;google hillary clinton reptile eyes youtube
gribble: Hillary Clinton with Reptilian Eyes - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ve-IiOM9mM>; Hillary Clinton Reptilian Eye - On Her Official Photo! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akcoHinOaIU>; Hillary Clinton reptilian eye on plasma TV by ljrow49 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_1aHJ4xEo>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00064 = 112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00064 = 1.312 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41660, Best ask: 13.42967, Bid-ask spread: 0.01307, Last trade: 13.42967, 24 hour volume: 21857.94329942, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39289
Bugpowder: So who wants to bet on the S.MPOE dividend
Bugpowder: ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35550 @ 0.00064 = 22.752 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Do we know the yield on the MPOE bonds this month?
jurov: 19%
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00064 = 16.576 BTC [+]
smickles: jurov: I bet it's higher
jurov: so you did pull these 25% this month?
smickles: these?
jurov: i remember you making some mpbor-related threats to mircea
kakobrekla: oh and if anyone else is interested, kv1 is open for deposits till the 31st, 100btc min
smickles: lol, threats
jurov: :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
jurov: anyway such bonds return could cause some last-minute rush for MPBPT. would be nice.
Bugpowder: what do you really think the bond rate will be?
smickles: 25%
smickles: well, unless the capital requirement is low this month
smickles: also, anyone whant to short s.mpoe?
smickles: ;D
thestringpuller: it wont have shorting conditions until late january
smickles: thestringpuller: suppose people are buying it now expecting a large dividend, then receive next to nothing b/c the bondholders took it all
thestringpuller: dec will be a good month for mpoe
thestringpuller: what was bondholder auction?
thestringpuller: i though last month was 9%
smickles: it's not released until settlement of the options
jurov: and that will be in 14hours
smickles: yeah, last month was 9%
thestringpuller: mpoe only made 6% in november
thestringpuller: with a request of 9%
Bugpowder: well 110,000 contracts traded this month
Bugpowder: similar to Nov
thestringpuller: smickles: shareholders didnt get any reql dividends in nob
smickles: do you think there has been an increase in the amount of btc from the bondholders this month?
thestringpuller: nov*
thestringpuller: real*
smickles: thestringpuller: shhh, you're giving people knowledge :P
jurov: smickles, i seriously consider lending some s.mpoe tomorrow, will you be there?
smickles: jurov: you mean borrowing?
jurov: yes borrowing
smickles: about how much ?, I'm not entirely a big fish yet
jurov: btc 27 worth
jurov: ;;calc 27/ 0.00064
smickles: I think I could do that, my terms are 0.2% per day, one interest payment minimum
gribble: 42187.5
jurov: okay. we'll see tomorrow
jurov: *plot thickens*
smickles: about what time UTC?
smickles: I'll be sure to be on
jurov: any time
jurov: i'll be most of the day, best evening UTC
smickles: kk, I'm usually on at several points in the day any way, I'll make my presence known :)
jurov: btw, what about the dividends?
jurov: should i return them to you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
jurov: and do you want interest every day or in the end?
smickles: jurov: dividends will be returned to me, payment can be at the end if you want, or in daily installments
Bugpowder: I think this means its 9.9%
Bugpowder: http://trilema.com/2012/mpoe-november-2012-statement/
Bugpowder: Price has been pretty stable, so I think MPOE is going to do very well
Bugpowder: I bet bondholders get the full 9.9%
Bugpowder: how much will be left afterwards, who knows.
jurov: Bugpowder, you are deducting that from MPBOR announced there? but on december 29 there will be different rate announced
Bugpowder: I was talking about for the current month
Bugpowder: I just didn't look hard for the info
Bugpowder: oops
jurov: but afaik bondholders list for current month is not know yet