jurov: quite an oxymoron you got there
jurov: ofc i forgot, bitcoin gods have 55lbs barrels of lube handy
jurov: no, 55 gallon drums more exactly
pigeons: so i got emails from btct that usagi had created assets for CPA and NYAN but their gone
pigeons: oops looking wrong place there they are
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00064 = 29.568 BTC [+]
jurov: so bitcoin tabloid has new site...
jurov: and all old comments happen to be wiped
jurov: no, there's one dated dec 25 2012.. from vitalik buterin? didn't they get rid of him?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03956962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0232923 BTC [-]
jurov: I believe that rewards based social media is the next logical step in this fascinating evolution of human interaction.
jurov: oh my. kill with fire
jurov: I believe that the Arab Spring is just the beginning of this social “awakening” that we are witnessing world wide. I believe that every single dictator in power today will not be there in 10 years’ time.
jurov: mircea_popescu: truly something for both you and the girl to get hives from
Diablo-D3: and then bitfunder said "usagi isnt opening here, hes opening at btct"
Diablo-D3: then usagi said "wtf, you stabbed me in the back, ukto is a spy!"
Diablo-D3: and then ukto said "yes, my little cauliflower, I am the best spy that ever lived."
jurov: isn't the forum stuff making your throat stiff and dry?
jurov: oh yes, you use the lube
Diablo-D3: medic, eh, he say not drink so much beer, bad for liver, what would medic know, eh? he is only german.
jurov: and you are? czech?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00064 = 4.0614 BTC [+]
jurov: nuclear paper tiger
jurov: russians should make love, not booze
pigeons: then usagi said, "the illuminati who shut nefario down have threatened ukto, cause why else could ukto possible refuse to be associated with the great and terrible usagi?"
jurov: Grace of almighty above and his sexy virgin, have mercy with that poor soul.
pigeons: i saw jurov kissing santa claus
kakobrekla: May our Lord Jesus Christ wash this earth with His holy light and purge its darkest places from heathens and philistines.
pigeons: "And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes."
kakobrekla: i just pasted a quote from dead man, seemed apropriate
kakobrekla: if you havent seen that move (anyone really)... go watch it
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.37880, Best ask: 13.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02120, Last trade: 13.37854, 24 hour volume: 16004.35697487, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.46997, 24 hour vwap: 13.33833
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ident
jurov: smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code
jurov: thestringpuller, iirc you wanted to have some api?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00064 = 1.792 BTC [+]
jurov: must add key auth then, i guess you don't want to mess with cookies
jurov: i have maybe 10 branches in git of various functions.... and as i know myself, i'll finish most of them at once. madness
smickles: < jurov> smickles is still busy with the mpex orders ids code <<< heh, actually, it took me about 20 min to write the code while taking care of my daughter and then a few hours trying to figure out why you thought it was so difficult
smickles: actually, I said that for humor. It would be more accurate to say that I figured we had different goals
smickles: my code does what I want it to do, I'm sure your code does what you want it to do
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45001, Best ask: 13.45900, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 13.45001, 24 hour volume: 15765.04593929, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.46997, 24 hour vwap: 13.34181
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00349579 / 0.00352604 / 0.00355774 (7437 shares, 26.22 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.0030785 / 0.0037 (8872282 shares, 27,313.38 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00064 / 0.00064 / 0.00064 (656012 shares, 419.85 BTC), 30day: 0.00050368 / 0.0005583 / 0.00064 (81022468 shares, 45,234.99 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00064 = 2.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00064 = 5.568 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10486 @ 0.00064 = 6.711 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10153 @ 0.00064 = 6.4979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8486 @ 0.00064 = 5.431 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00064 = 11.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1026 @ 0.00064 = 0.6566 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu What's max pain for btc OpEx this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4269 @ 0.00064 = 2.7322 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, I could imagine it being a difficult number to look at often
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.00064 = 0.8634 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9825 @ 0.00064 = 6.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2540 @ 0.00064 = 1.6256 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44991, Best ask: 13.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00009, Last trade: 13.44991, 24 hour volume: 17358.44862787, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.35560
smickles: lol, somehow, i'm reminded of this girl in my highschool year, sara campen, she changed her name, legally, from what her parents named her (she already went by sara in defiance of them until she turned 18)
smickles: heh, I'm not out to destroy mpoebot
smickles: I wouoldn't mind thousands of btc per month or something like that.
smickles: i'd be the new mircea_popescu :D
smickles: meh, then it wouldn't be my thousands of btc
smickles: really, this market maker bot is an elaborate mission to taste real whiskey
smickles: i think the majority of my daughter's future tuition is my wife's motgomery gi bill
smickles: I dunno, I suppose I need to define the outcome :|
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.0205393 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8941 @ 0.00064 = 5.7222 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10272 @ 0.00064 = 6.5741 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1day: 0.03956962 / 0.0413564 / 0.04481226 (3 shares, 0.12 BTC), 30day: 0.03956962 / 0.14250577 / 0.20783398 (12077 shares, 1,721.04 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00064 = 5.408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00064 = 6.464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 450 @ 0.00354391 = 1.5948 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8812 @ 0.00064 = 5.6397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00064 = 2.496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00064 = 5.92 BTC [+]
Ukto: Diablo-D3, pigeons: lol
Diablo-D3: hrm, if ukto has dead ringer, does that mean ukto is now the little girl?
Ukto: cute little girls.. the most dangerous weapons in teh world
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00064 = 12.128 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00064 = 2.592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064 = 13.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00064 = 0.576 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45848, Best ask: 13.45882, Bid-ask spread: 0.00034, Last trade: 13.45848, 24 hour volume: 20579.82684084, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.37609
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00064 = 5.824 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7057 @ 0.00064 = 4.5165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00064 = 4.288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00064 = 24.832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064 = 5.088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12914 @ 0.00064 = 8.265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4149 @ 0.00064 = 2.6554 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00064 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00064 = 7.872 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3038 @ 0.00064 = 1.9443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00064 = 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00064 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 24 @ 0.00358469 = 0.086 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.28885, Best ask: 13.38625, Bid-ask spread: 0.09740, Last trade: 13.26462, 24 hour volume: 20206.19504333, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39122
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7152 @ 0.00064 = 4.5773 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.38451, Best ask: 13.39286, Bid-ask spread: 0.00835, Last trade: 13.39286, 24 hour volume: 19951.43758602, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39346
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00064 = 0.9024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00064 = 5.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00064 = 3.488 BTC [+]
gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 18 hours, 15 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <mod6> \o/
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <smickles> i'll need a mentor!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00064 = 7.584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28359 @ 0.00064 = 18.1498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00064 = 16.096 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea, that's more like phat pipe
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you should a BCCAPI server for mod6 and I for mpex users
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00064 = 17.504 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: So if max pain is 13 and change, this should be a good month for MPOE no?
Bugpowder: I assume most of the MPOE holdings are short calls and puts?
jurov: Bugpowder, you trading dow futures in btc somewhere?
Bugpowder: the trouble with these BTC futures is that BTC/USD is the primary source of volitility
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1850 @ 0.00355333 = 6.5737 BTC [-]
jurov: isn't anyone trying to arbutrage 1broker.com ?
jurov: btc futures trading, done by some austrian student
smickles: 17:30 < mircea_popescu> volAtility omg <<< lil
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00064 = 8.96 BTC [+]
jurov: hard to say.. maybe it's like kakobrekla's forex thing
Bugpowder: how the f has this been the lead story on yahoo finance all morning
Bugpowder: One analyst saying. watch out! they have tricks of their sleeve!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00064 = 3.968 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4904 @ 0.00064 = 3.1386 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00064 = 17.312 BTC [+]
gigavps: he's not making much sense
jcpham: well it's from bitcointalk.org first of all
jcpham: it's pretty clear gigavps
jcpham: you started talking about virgins and now everyone thinks you are a muslim
jcpham: coming soon: scammer terrorist tag
gigavps: i just want to know if ppl like vigin coins
gigavps: before i go sink 200+ hours into development
gigavps: but i guess i attract all of the crazies
jcpham: time for gigavps-sock account
gigavps: i have my first employee starting on Jan 2
jcpham: and she's mildly attractive
jcpham: and she really tells everyone to fuck off on the forum
gigavps: well, my wife is on the payroll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00064 = 3.776 BTC [+]
jurov: i don't get whole thing... you want to launder coins by means of own mining pool?
jcpham: at the expense of looking credible herself
gigavps: but she doesn't do anything with the business
jcpham: of course nothing like that currently exists
jurov: as in, ppl send txs with large fees exclusively to you, then when you mine a block, lo and behold, virgins
gigavps: you can also mine coins directly to paper wallets
gigavps: so the private keys can be mailed to ppl
jcpham: especially if it relied on like a print command that failed
jcpham: and the coins were lost
gigavps: paper wallets would be printed BEFORE HAND
jcpham: nah i say mine blocks directly to line feed printer
jurov: so sending block fees to an addy requires its private key?
gigavps: mining pools can use "tracker" addresses
gigavps: or like eligius, mine a portion of coins directly to a wallet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+]
jurov: gigavps, then no mailing necessary... ppl just send securely the txs with oversized fees, get back virgins to source address
gigavps: that is a possiblity if you are only accepting coins in payment
gigavps: but what if you want to accept bank wire, cc, etc
gigavps: you need to follow meatspace rulz
gigavps: aka, mailing something to a verified address
jurov: um i don't get it... accepting bank wire/cc anonymously looks like much bigger hurdle than transferring private keys securely
gigavps: well, accepting meatspace wouldn't be annon
jurov: actually it is has the same risks as sending cash by mail... except that receiver won't be aware someone copied the key en route
jurov: and blaming everything on you
gigavps: ooo, just made post 2100 to smack SAC upside the head
gigavps: i guess his rage is confusing him
jurov: sac, the block purity protector
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13247 @ 0.00064 = 8.4781 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2346 @ 0.00064 = 1.5014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00064 = 4.5382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00064 = 7.072 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: im just wrappin up math of my kv1 fund, up 20.6% after the fees in first month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00354228 = 4.605 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00352003 = 5.28 BTC [-]
smickles: hmm, mircea_popescu does this mean you'll publish the options maturity number too ?
smickles: Or have I just not know where you put it this whole time
mircea_popescu: dioes the fact that i publish btc settlement values for futures mean that i will also publish btc settlement values for options ? yes, it does.
smickles: "this" being the fact that you published unrelated information of the futures :P
mircea_popescu: but i thought what you meant was, volumes, as in "x contracts"
mircea_popescu: which, you know, "Total 114763 of which Call, -20011 +20338 Put"
smickles: what I'm curious about was what you read from bitcoincharts as the average at maturity
smickles: it's a pain to look that up retrospectively
mircea_popescu: "2. A better reset is this un-documented procedure, used by beta tester ( I was on the FVS338). Is hold the reset button for 20 sec, pull the power while still holding the reset button for 20 sec, then power up still holding the reset for 20 sec. Then release the reset button."
mircea_popescu: lol. any sufficently advanced technology will be treated as magic.
smickles: "undocumented magic" sound like something illegal in 'merica
thestringpuller: sounds like eleves working in your basement as slaves who are also illegally ommigrated
smickles: damn, I wish I measured the temp which i brewed this coffee at :/
smickles: it tastes so much better today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8865 @ 0.00064 = 5.6736 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: kakobrekla, 15 euro profit. NOICE.
mircea_popescu: dumbass romanians only getting online to download xmas greetings.
jurov: lol, we shouldn't trade futures between ourselves.. we'll get to hate each other
smickles: I follow JP_Jackson's strategy
kakobrekla: i write bots with enky, kv1 is the first prototype, it uses kalman filtered velocity as a main indicator
kakobrekla: new ones commin out as soon as i get rid of mp breating behind my back ;>
kakobrekla: audnzd cadjpy gbpjpy eurusd at the moment
Bugpowder: ok. So where do bitcoins come into play?
kakobrekla: forex account is denominated in bitcoin
Bugpowder: Do you have to exchange to fiat and back to trade the pairs??
kakobrekla: no other fees, no swap, no tax no nothing
kakobrekla: you can get institutional acc with 500btc+ with a fraction of that spread but some other fees come into play there
Bugpowder: kakobrekla what is the fee structure for kv1? what is the leverage used?
pizzaman1337: This should clear automatically in 2-3 business days in most cases. We apologize for any inconvenience." for almost 2 weeks now.
smickles: heh, i'm glad noone actually took the bet. pizzaman1337 I should hope you'd recuse yourself from betting, as it was you who had the answer ;)
kakobrekla: Bugpowder, 1:500 but that high its not needed, theres max of 0.4 lots that it can open with 4 pairs now so it wont overtrade, fee is 20% of the profits because its a highly maintained system (closing trades are mostly manualy)
Bugpowder: what about losing months, is there a fee? Are previous month's losses subtracted from subsequent month's gains prior to calculating the performance fee?
smickles: betting is an interesting way of outting the baysian mind. if you are 100% sure of something, then you should have absolutely no issue betting 100% of your money, in fact, you should have no issue doing that and borrowing more to bet as well. Point being, people tend to say (and self deludedly believe) they are 100% sure of something, yet would hesitate to risk all they own on a bet to that end
kakobrekla: fees are only on profits, for now profits are paid out monthly, after a few months we will go with a closed fund probably, paying out monthly profits is not a wise idea in the first place but with much fluctuation now i dont have much choice
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03464639 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00064 = 2.272 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.39889, Best ask: 13.39970, Bid-ask spread: 0.00081, Last trade: 13.39888, 24 hour volume: 20296.08468303, 24 hour low: 13.26355, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.40203
smickles: that C130T seems downright ballsy to me
smickles: if i'm correct, it breaks even at 13.475~
Bugpowder: kakobrekla Well.... 7 trades total? If your performance keeps up I may be interested.
smickles: we could see a 10 cent move in a day
smickles: and today's high on bitcoincharts shows 13.47 at that!
kakobrekla: then one was bad, and one was 0 cause we got cold feet, it would end up +20
Bugpowder: "we got cold feet" who is pulling the trigger, the software or a person?
kakobrekla: anyway, this is only the first version
kakobrekla: a result that would take a year before takes an hour now
kakobrekla: but shit need to be recoded then for mt4 unfortanetly :)
kakobrekla: anyway its tested on 4 years backtest or so
kakobrekla: had periods when it made little to nothing
Bugpowder: how do you backtest if a human pulls the trigger?
Bugpowder: right, but if you have a human pulling the trigger in the real implementation the backtest is not valide
kakobrekla: if i have a bot that will burn in 4 years
kakobrekla: well i gues it would depends on amount of trading
Bugpowder: market dynamics shift over many lengthscales
kakobrekla: if it will get through 4 years i dont expect it to blow in a month
Bugpowder: would be nice to see how it handles 07-08
kakobrekla: i could run a test if you are really that interested
kakobrekla: i guess at this point is best enky speaks as well.
Bugpowder: well let's defer this for a bit. Need to get back to wrok
Bugpowder: will be watching with interest though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064 = 2.112 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, it's probably interesting to see how any bot handles 07-08
smickles: kakobrekla: you should test your bot on usd/gbp years 29-30
smickles: damn, is there really no data from back then?
Bugpowder: "Stocks Pare Losses as House to Reconvene Sunday"
bonafide: hope you got enough for more than intraday holding
bonafide: I'm still tapping the jpy atm.. but getting out tmrw afternoon and taking gains
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00064 = 3.808 BTC [+]
bonafide: fecal cliff wont steal my monies
Bugpowder: VOO (ETF); VFIAX (admiralty) VVIAX (admiralty) VBF (ETF); VISVX (regular); no exact admiralty VGPMX (regular); no admiralty VGENX (regular); VGELX (admiralty 100K) VGSIX (regular); VGSLX (admiralty) VWO (ETF); VEMAX (admiralty) VTIAX (admiralty) VTRIX (regular); no admiralty VWITX (regular); VWIUX (admiralty) VBIIX (regular); VBILX (admiralty) VIPSX (regular); VAIPX (admiralty for 50k) VBLTX (regular); no adm; VWLTX (
bonafide: I'm shuttin down my EUR/JPY positions and thinking of going long EUR/USD as a fecal cliff play
bonafide: the newly elected people in Japan got in, made their announcements
bonafide: but they don't get into office to actually set policy
Bugpowder: thestringpuller what is the evidence?
bonafide: I could stay long, but I like taking nice gains and reposition on the pullback
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Bugpowder: I think the verdict will be reduced
bonafide: MRVL is QCOM's direct competitor?
bonafide: I've been looking for a food equity
smickles: bad idea, obama is jesus, so nothing bad will happen to usd
bonafide: Obama does nothing for the dollar
bonafide: right now its a race between USD and JPY
smickles: thestringpuller: actually, 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
smickles: send btc there, it will help the wot
bonafide: it's not like I'm putting your money in harms way
smickles: it helps pay for the costs of running the wot
smickles: also, dev on v2 of the protocol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00064 = 0.6803 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: actually send to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp
pigeons: pigeons actually prefer meat
bonafide: I saw something on American Greed where some guy conned multi-millions from people by pitching the ideas that pigeons would soon replace chicken
pigeons: actually the native species of pigeon to north america went extinct cause it was overhunted overeaten, then when it was gone people settled for chicken
kakobrekla: flying rat (super powers) vs incapacitated bird (lame)
plate: pigeons: so what pigeons do we have now?
pigeons: the "pigeons" now in north america are escaped pet rock doves from europe
plate: they're fucking annoying
plate: they love mcdonalds
pigeons: A&P supermarket had a contest and the winner geneticly modified the hen to not have bloody meat so the jewish customers would eat it
pigeons: and that is what we eat today
plate: The jews always have their hands in everything
plate: Kosher Coke is good tho
plate: but that's just the real formula
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00064 = 7.392 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00064 = 7.552 BTC [+]
smickles: < pigeons> jews/aliens/gays < they're all reptoids anyway :|
pigeons: i meant the aryans that control the greys
pigeons: ;;google hillary clinton reptile eyes youtube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00064 = 112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00064 = 1.312 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41660, Best ask: 13.42967, Bid-ask spread: 0.01307, Last trade: 13.42967, 24 hour volume: 21857.94329942, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39289
Bugpowder: So who wants to bet on the S.MPOE dividend
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35550 @ 0.00064 = 22.752 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Do we know the yield on the MPOE bonds this month?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00064 = 16.576 BTC [+]
jurov: so you did pull these 25% this month?
jurov: i remember you making some mpbor-related threats to mircea
kakobrekla: oh and if anyone else is interested, kv1 is open for deposits till the 31st, 100btc min
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
jurov: anyway such bonds return could cause some last-minute rush for MPBPT. would be nice.
Bugpowder: what do you really think the bond rate will be?
smickles: well, unless the capital requirement is low this month
smickles: also, anyone whant to short s.mpoe?
smickles: thestringpuller: suppose people are buying it now expecting a large dividend, then receive next to nothing b/c the bondholders took it all
smickles: it's not released until settlement of the options
jurov: and that will be in 14hours
Bugpowder: well 110,000 contracts traded this month
thestringpuller: smickles: shareholders didnt get any reql dividends in nob
smickles: do you think there has been an increase in the amount of btc from the bondholders this month?
smickles: thestringpuller: shhh, you're giving people knowledge :P
jurov: smickles, i seriously consider lending some s.mpoe tomorrow, will you be there?
smickles: about how much ?, I'm not entirely a big fish yet
jurov: ;;calc 27/ 0.00064
smickles: I think I could do that, my terms are 0.2% per day, one interest payment minimum
jurov: okay. we'll see tomorrow
jurov: i'll be most of the day, best evening UTC
smickles: kk, I'm usually on at several points in the day any way, I'll make my presence known :)
jurov: btw, what about the dividends?
jurov: should i return them to you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
jurov: and do you want interest every day or in the end?
smickles: jurov: dividends will be returned to me, payment can be at the end if you want, or in daily installments
Bugpowder: Price has been pretty stable, so I think MPOE is going to do very well
Bugpowder: I bet bondholders get the full 9.9%
Bugpowder: how much will be left afterwards, who knows.
jurov: Bugpowder, you are deducting that from MPBOR announced there? but on december 29 there will be different rate announced
Bugpowder: I was talking about for the current month
Bugpowder: I just didn't look hard for the info
jurov: but afaik bondholders list for current month is not know yet