tmsr - Log 2012-12-29

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smickles: mircea_popescu: face facts, you're winning

mircea_popescu: lol ok. i never got very far into ta

Bugpowder: yeah, I only get as far as to tell people 'you are drawing lines on a chart. you are an idiot.

Bugpowder: Damn. SP500 closed at 1402.

smickles: well, these bots Bugpowder was complaining weren't on s.dice too are probably running on TA

Bugpowder: Would have bot SP500 if I saw the drop

Bugpowder: Bigger dump if no deal though

Bugpowder: come on!

mircea_popescu: igot news for you mr

mircea_popescu: there's not going to be any deal and the stocks will continue to appreciate

Bugpowder: yes

mircea_popescu: they are completely divorced from any fundamentals, the nyse is currently running its very own version of the stock generation scam

Bugpowder: this is why I need to buy on the panic

mircea_popescu: comming up next, rule 42 or w/e the fuck

smickles: lol, i can see it now. continue to buy and hold until taxes are lowered again

Bugpowder: the only way to keep pace with the printing is to own stocks

mircea_popescu: taxes are never lowered again.

Bugpowder: taxes are never going lower than this

mircea_popescu: the us is headed straight for central planning.

Bugpowder: they are insanely low

mircea_popescu: haha werd.

Bugpowder: going over cliff is US's best hope I think

mircea_popescu: owning shares makes absolutely no sense.

Bugpowder: Also I don't mind paying more in taxes as long as everyone else must too

mircea_popescu: what do these shares represent ? the government runs the corp anyway.

Bugpowder: ;;calc (1402-666)/666

gribble: 1.10510510511

Bugpowder: 110% return from the lows to today

Bugpowder: not bad for an index

Bugpowder: of real money

Bugpowder: not game currency

mircea_popescu: i'm with jp morgan.

mircea_popescu: if i don't trust a man he can't have any money from me on all the bonds in christendom

Bugpowder: I somehow feel that S.DICE shares have more risk than SPY.... but.. maybe I am not with the new way

mircea_popescu: and i don't trust obama, bernanke and co

mircea_popescu: consequently, i own exactly 0 us equities.

Bugpowder: foriegn equities?

mircea_popescu: some

Bugpowder: Did the S.MPOE bot hear us and get turned off?

mircea_popescu: haha did it ?

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45101, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04899, Last trade: 13.45101, 24 hour volume: 22730.04896326, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44036

Bugpowder: <1000 BTC ask at 13.5

smickles: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: 13.36

mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135673209237.jpg ahahaha this!

smickles: lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+]

smickles: people, buy/sell my options offers, there's still plenty of time b/f maturity :D

Bugpowder: is settelment done with 24hprc, 24vwap, or spot?

mircea_popescu: 24hprc = 24vwap

Bugpowder: look up

Bugpowder: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: 13.36

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04878, Last trade: 13.45112, 24 hour volume: 22730.29997529, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44044

smickles: Bugpowder: bc,24hprc

mircea_popescu: a

mircea_popescu: the ticker is mtgox only i think ?

Bugpowder: I think 24hprc is off

smickles: it's what is being reported by bitcoincharts

mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/

smickles: and that's what mpex uses

mircea_popescu: ya 13.36 it says

smickles: it was 13.33 only an hour or so ago

Bugpowder: I see

Bugpowder: volume is 10x on gox

Bugpowder: but other have prices down at 13.1

Bugpowder: still

mircea_popescu: but im pretty sure it's a vwap, because of its behaviour when volume occurs

Bugpowder: 13.2

mircea_popescu: so i think ticker is mtgox vwap only and 24hprc is all exchanges

jurov: ;;(14-13.36)/13.36

gribble: Error: "(14-13.36)/13.36" is not a valid command.

jurov: ;;calc (14-13.36)/13.36

gribble: 0.0479041916168

Bugpowder: I sold 100 calls and puts at 14 for about .20 average

Bugpowder: happy

mircea_popescu: good move.

Bugpowder: very stable month

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.49990, Bid-ask spread: 0.04876, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 22742.72980548, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44065

thestringpuller: lol

thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hrpc

gribble: Error: "bc,24hrpc" is not a valid command.

thestringpuller: smickles whats that command...

smickles: stable 2 months, i say, i sold about 40 contracts to the bot when they were 'N's at the beginning of the month and stand to make ~13% on them

smickles: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: 13.36

mircea_popescu: yea its been remarkably calm

mircea_popescu: esp with the halving and all

Bugpowder: boom

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45114, Best ask: 13.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05885, Last trade: 13.45114, 24 hour volume: 23720.51157629, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44342

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45112, Best ask: 13.53299, Bid-ask spread: 0.08187, Last trade: 13.53300, 24 hour volume: 23778.70373198, 24 hour low: 13.33001, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44439

mircea_popescu: boom ?

smickles: check the high

smickles: no...

smickles: that's been the high for a little while now

smickles: boom?

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZzBd41NuZw

Bugpowder: the previous high was a misprint

Bugpowder: it hasn't been about 13.50 for real for a while...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15625 @ 0.00064 = 10 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00064 = 2.88 BTC [+]

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44996, Best ask: 13.49987, Bid-ask spread: 0.04991, Last trade: 13.49996, 24 hour volume: 23899.71614026, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44574

jurov: feeling in the room is palpable

smickles: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: 13.37

smickles: mircea_popescu: you should let the mpbor % leak ;)

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: i dun even have it yet.

smickles: that doesn't stop most leaks, right?

mircea_popescu: ok.

mircea_popescu: eleventy %

smickles: lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: 11% lol

smickles: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: 13.37

thestringpuller: i need a wife

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: talk me out of it

smickles: thestringpuller: that's 111%, actually, didn't you ever read Bilbo's speach at his birthday at the beginning of the hobbit?

smickles: er

smickles: 110%

thestringpuller: paraphrased: "i hate all of you goodbye"

smickles: it was his eleventy-first birthday party

smickles: lol, that + tact

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00064 = 2.944 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00064 = 1.216 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.00064 = 6.5376 BTC [+]

jurov: #bitcoin-assets before mpoe announcement: http://c.cslacker.com/587l.jpg

smickles: i'm the one on the far right

jcpham: meow

Azelphur: smickles: are all the SS payments done now?

jcpham: squeeze him Azelphur

smickles: Azelphur: nope, and there's one in the pipe right now

Azelphur: cool :P

smickles: i'm working on syncing the chain on that machine

Azelphur: :D

jcpham: mmmmm fresh lemonade

mircea_popescu: lol

Ukto: Diablo-D3: you there?

jcpham: afk mining on GTX 630's like a boss

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00064 = 2.56 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064 = 6.688 BTC [+]

smickles: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: 13.37

mircea_popescu: ahahah

mircea_popescu: leet btc is leet

kakobrekla: Completed txs: 670 | Completed txs vol: 5093 BTC

kakobrekla: broke a pittyful 5k tonight

Bugpowder: coinbr?

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/mpoe-december-2012-statement/

mircea_popescu: and it's out. good month.

Bugpowder: I KNEW IT

Bugpowder: the bond rate sure helpd

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00064 = 4 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: even if it were 10% it'd still yhave made profit.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145000 @ 0.00064 = 92.8 BTC [+]

Bugpowder: ha

Bugpowder: getting in before the divvy

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00064 = 13.44 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: lol

Bugpowder: those aren't the bot

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800000 @ 0.00064 = 512 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: campbx might have gone bad

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00064 = 2.336 BTC [+]

Bugpowder: thats the bot

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00064 = 32 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ 0.00000003 = 14 BTC

Bugpowder: fuck

Bugpowder: too

Bugpowder: slow

Bugpowder: 14BTC???

mircea_popescu: bah i fucked it up

mircea_popescu: freeze everything!

kakobrekla: thats just assbot

kakobrekla: assfuckin around.

mircea_popescu: no i actually fucked it up

mircea_popescu: sent 10x

Bugpowder: no

Bugpowder: too late I spent it

Bugpowder: heh

mircea_popescu: lol

Bugpowder: everything is frozen

Bugpowder: my S.DICE buy is not executing

jurov: twitter says S.MPOE paid a total dividend of 14`252.99177745 BTC to 500`000`000 outstanding shares.

jurov: quite a hefty sum

Bugpowder: well

Bugpowder: 13000 of it was to MP

jurov: and assbot needs fixing to parse romanian numerals

Bugpowder: at least now we know mp has 14000 BTC

kakobrekla: mpex needs to upgrade teh api interface

smickles: damn, my mpbor troll didn't work :P

smickles: maybe it did, and I spooked money into sensible bids, who knows

mod6: yowza!

Bugpowder: there wasn't much volatility this month, so maybe that ment not a lot of exposure

Bugpowder: so mad I didn't get my other 280BTC into S.MPOE before the fuckup

mircea_popescu: well yes everything is frozen

Bugpowder: Total capital : 7`292.03, of which

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2050 @ 0.00346166 = 7.0964 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 126 @ 0.00355333 = 0.4477 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1370 @ 0.00358687 = 4.914 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 477 @ 0.00358998 = 1.7124 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00359072 = 2.334 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12499 @ 0.0036 = 44.9964 BTC [+]

Bugpowder: there we go

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 500000000 @ = 1 BTC

kakobrekla: much better, a coin.

mircea_popescu: haha okai,

kakobrekla: fuckin broked shit

mircea_popescu: 5000infinities @ nothinghere = 1!

kakobrekla: yes

kakobrekla: didnt ya know

kakobrekla: hipstermath

Bugpowder: single precision

kakobrekla: perhaps "1" was indeed "true"

kakobrekla: as in "yes it paid btc"

mircea_popescu: hey, at least assbot doesn't go around paying 15k btc instead 0f 1.5k

kakobrekla: :D

mircea_popescu: o hai jurov

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00063988 = 3.4528 BTC [-]

Bugpowder: in other news

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.49631, Bid-ask spread: 0.07433, Last trade: 13.42187, 24 hour volume: 23987.69053134, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.44801

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

Bugpowder: 13.60

Bugpowder: 13.65

jurov: done. fortunately that i don't trust stat stuff and initiate dividing the cake manually.

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42198, Best ask: 13.55000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12802, Last trade: 13.65000, 24 hour volume: 31339.88226787, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.66978, 24 hour vwap: 13.48579

Bugpowder: 13:67

Bugpowder: here we go again

mircea_popescu: 13:67 huh ?

Bugpowder: 13.67

Bugpowder: $

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00063988 = 2.5915 BTC [-]

Bugpowder: does split use 24hprc for ITM put deposit calculations?

mircea_popescu: plus some volatility sauce.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00063988 = 3.1354 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8482 @ 0.00063988 = 5.4275 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0006396 = 3.0701 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8944 @ 0.00063934 = 5.7183 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6948 @ 0.00063915 = 4.4408 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00063909 = 6.0074 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00063896 = 4.0254 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3260 @ 0.0006388 = 2.0825 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00063877 = 6.9626 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12627 @ 0.00063873 = 8.0652 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063833 = 7.9153 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063831 = 4.149 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063802 = 1.5951 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.000638 = 41.47 BTC [-]

Bugpowder: lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.000638 = 1.914 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.000638 = 4.6255 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10215 @ 0.000638 = 6.5172 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: eee the scalping

smickles: that 'volatility sauce' is annoying as fuck :P

mircea_popescu: i live to piss off.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.000638 = 3.6366 BTC [-]

Bugpowder: boring

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7183 @ 0.000638 = 4.5828 BTC [-]

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52109, Best ask: 13.59974, Bid-ask spread: 0.07865, Last trade: 13.52109, 24 hour volume: 32543.24138401, 24 hour low: 13.34201, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.49578

mircea_popescu: "bitcoin moves up on good mpex news"

Bugpowder: lol

Bugpowder: sure seemed like it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.000638 = 3.4452 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.000638 = 7.8474 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.000638 = 0.319 BTC [-]

Diablo-D3: Ukto: yes Im here

Diablo-D3: in other news

Diablo-D3: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20121228/01025121504/sf-wireless-isp-monkeybrains-tries-to-crowdfund-325-million-satellite.shtml

Diablo-D3: :3

Diablo-D3: Ukto: btw, nefario just sent me my final list

mircea_popescu: are you consulting for them Diablo-D3 ?

Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: please say you have a good punchline for that

mircea_popescu: that was the punchline omg

mod6: lol

mircea_popescu: you dun think it's funny ?

Diablo-D3: nope

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23198 @ 0.000638 = 14.8003 BTC [-]

smickles: alright, live test month of SOEBOT has begun!

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.000638 = 17.226 BTC [-]

Diablo-D3: wat?

smickles: I've launched an options market maker bot in beta

smickles: go trade with it :)

thestringpuller: how much capital is behind the bo

thestringpuller: bot

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43475, Best ask: 13.49409, Bid-ask spread: 0.05934, Last trade: 13.49409, 24 hour volume: 34545.30775319, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.67000, 24 hour vwap: 13.48996

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.000638 = 8.3259 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: oh snap

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.000638 = 4.147 BTC [-]

smickles: thestringpuller: a bit over 100 btc for now

mircea_popescu: soebot ?!

mircea_popescu: smickles is it trading 1 option ?

smickles: heh, yeah, one on each side of each strike which it's targeting

mircea_popescu: cute :D

mircea_popescu: anyway, this is enough excitement for one day.

mircea_popescu: catch you all... next year ?

smickles: i'm fine with making 1/1000th of mpoebot's profit :)

mircea_popescu: im kinda impressed with mpoebot tbh

mircea_popescu: how many trade bots get to be over one year old ?

thestringpuller: a lot

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.000638 = 5.6463 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4216 @ 0.000638 = 2.6898 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.000638 = 5.2954 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5892 @ 0.000638 = 3.7591 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000638 = 2.3606 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.000638 = 7.4327 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.000638 = 6.2524 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.000638 = 1.2441 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: fuckyea.

kakobrekla: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~avivz/publications.html

kakobrekla: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/541031_473590599354599_248671373_n.jpg

mircea_popescu: who;s he ?

kakobrekla: says on the homepage

mircea_popescu: ok but i mean...

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 502 @ 0.00346013 = 1.737 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: dunno

kakobrekla: im talkin to one of his students or smth

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.000638 = 4.6574 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: a ok

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000638 = 2.0199 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.000638 = 2.0416 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.000638 = 13.3342 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.000638 = 3.8918 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.000638 = 1.4355 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.000638 = 4.7531 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12501 @ 0.000638 = 7.9756 BTC [-]

pigeons: 638 is even more boring than 64

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.000638 = 1.9778 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.000638 = 1.1484 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: who is the new owner of bitmarket.eu?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.000638 = 8.932 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20372 @ 0.000638 = 12.9973 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.000638 = 5.3911 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.000638 = 6.6671 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.000638 = 1.8502 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.000638 = 5.1678 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5735 @ 0.000638 = 3.6589 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7257 @ 0.000638 = 4.63 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2607 @ 0.000638 = 1.6633 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: anyone here using gox api v1

smickles: "A node in the network has an

smickles: incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,

smickles: A node in the network has an

smickles: incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,

smickles: "A node in the network has an

smickles: incentive to keep the knowledge of any transaction that offers a fee to itself,

smickles: ack

smickles: whops

smickles: *oo

smickles: anyway, good link kakobrekla

smickles: kakobrekla: also, i use gox's v1 api from time to time

kakobrekla: smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133829.0

Ukto: smickles: pm :)

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.000638 = 7.2732 BTC [-]

smickles: kakobrekla: i'm not sure, but I think they require valid user-agent headers too

smickles: oh, nvm, that was a silly answer

smickles: kakobrekla: i only do manual withdrawals, so I don't know how well I can help

kakobrekla: k

smickles: kakobrekla: I don't use that api call to gen a key

kakobrekla: hm?

smickles: I use the the site to manually fetch a key/secret pair for each app

kakobrekla: eh?

smickles: hmm, I suppose only withdrawal requires the HOTP?

kakobrekla: dunno

kakobrekla: imma gonna try v2 now

kakobrekla: lets see what error i get there

smickles: is there any documentation on v2?

smickles: at all? anywhere?

kakobrekla: no

kakobrekla: but i have a working function

kakobrekla: cause i have a special call

kakobrekla: only for me.

kakobrekla: ;>

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7527 @ 0.000638 = 4.8022 BTC [-]

Ukto: ugh

Ukto: dont get me started on their api

Ukto: v1.. v2.. wtf.

Ukto: i have to use a half mix between them

Ukto: for weex

kakobrekla: do you have withdrawals working?

Ukto: i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes

kakobrekla: yeah well

kakobrekla: if you generate a code

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13882 @ 0.000638 = 8.8567 BTC [-]

kakobreklaa: ;;seen Ukto

gribble: Ukto was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 minutes and 19 seconds ago: <Ukto> i only use them for generating and inputting mtgox codes

Ukto: ?

Ukto: was waiting for you to finish your comment

Ukto: :P

kakobreklaa: just wanted to see what your last line was

Ukto: oh

Ukto: lol

kakobreklaa: perhaps i was cut off

Ukto: [12:07] <kakobrekla> if you generate a code

Ukto: [12:11] * kakobrekla (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

kakobreklaa: 19:05.07 ( kakobrekla ) if you generate a code

kakobreklaa: 19:05.15 ( kakobrekla ) you use withdrawal api

kakobreklaa: 19:05.18 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v0

kakobreklaa: 19:05.24 ( kakobrekla ) you need to change

kakobreklaa: 19:05.29 ( kakobrekla ) just as i need to.

kakobreklaa: 19:06.09 ( kakobrekla ) if you use v1 you need to share how da fuck you gen code with it

kakobreklaa: 19:06.16 ( kakobrekla ) ;>

Ukto: i dont know wtf ver I use

Ukto: it was the only one at the time that I know of

Ukto: someone did a withdraw... 2? days ago

Ukto: dec 27th

kakobreklaa: ya v0 is dead by the end of 2012

Ukto: I may just shut it down and say fuck it

kakobreklaa: ;)

Ukto: ill look in 1 sec and tell you

Ukto: which I am using

kakobreklaa: v0 prolly

Ukto: gotta finish setting up some routing real quick

Ukto: prolly

kakobreklaa: i doubt ANYONE has got v1 working

kakobreklaa: and if im right they better not close it

kakobreklaa: the old one

Ukto: v0 was so simple :/

Ukto: the hard part was trying ot figure out the docs

kakobreklaa: ya

kakobreklaa: that fact still remains

Ukto: well

Ukto: seeing as the url is 0/

Ukto: I assume its not v1

kakobreklaa: correct

Ukto: so we have what.. 2? days?

kakobreklaa: v2 returns simmilar to v1 but has ZERO docs

kakobreklaa: ["error"]=>

kakobreklaa: string(45) "Identification required to access private API"

kakobreklaa: ["token"]=>

kakobreklaa: string(14) "login_required"

kakobreklaa: v1 is missing the OTP part

kakobreklaa: yeah according to their email

kakobreklaa: You are currently making use of a system which will be deprecated on Mon 31 Dec 2012 12:00:00 AM GMT:

Ukto: i didnt get an email

Ukto: heh

kakobreklaa: well i see in my code that btc2code is a 0/withdraw.php call

kakobreklaa: so i guess you fall in that category as well

Ukto: yeah

Ukto: i use mtgox_redeem and mtgox_createcoupon

Ukto: oh wiat, I wrote these functions

Ukto: LOL

kakobreklaa: ya

kakobreklaa: its a 0/withdraw.php post

Ukto: last touched may 30th 2012

kakobreklaa: to get the code

kakobreklaa: so the email says

kakobreklaa: Old bitcoin withdraw method for withdrawing bitcoins is deprecated. Please use https://mtgox.com/api/1/generic/bitcoin/send_simple or https://mtgox.com/api/2/money/bitcoin/send_simple instead

kakobreklaa: but no docu :>

kakobreklaa: tards.

Ukto: gox was one of the main reasons for why I am spending so much on my API documentation

Ukto: for BF && Weex

Ukto: fully interactive API documentation

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kakobreklaa: interactive api documentation? :>

kakobreklaa: cmon

kakobreklaa: thats not the important part here

kakobreklaa: hum

kakobreklaa: blockchain info can do api withdrawals too eh

smickles: blockchain.info can do a lot of things, apparently

kakobreklaa: but gox is free

kakobreklaa: here one needs to pay a tx fee ;>

kakobreklaa: cake is a lie.

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Ukto: blockchain also has issues

Ukto: and no responsibilities

Ukto: i have reported an problem with like 3 json responses

kakobreklaa: issues?

Ukto: repeatedly

Ukto: starting months ago

Ukto: that they didnt fix yet

kakobreklaa: which calls

Ukto: and no response

Ukto: mostly just json blockchain infos

kakobreklaa: i use it too

kakobreklaa: but i havent had any issues

Ukto: ill have todig it up

Ukto: 1 sec

Ukto: try http://blockchain.info/rawblock/1551 then incriment it to block 1552

Ukto: their shit wont give block details above block 1551

Ukto: which is completely useless

Ukto: because it doesnt work

Ukto: I ended up doing a lot of work

Ukto: to get the same data

Ukto: thats just one of the issues

kakobreklaa: it works again for recent ones

kakobreklaa: win

Ukto: sigh

Ukto: so they just chose to not have data for the middle

kakobreklaa: no idea

Ukto: so it only urns on the last block

Ukto: otherwise it give syou non rawdata

Ukto: 206 is there

Ukto: but anythen below the last block doesnt even give you a json error

Ukto: just a bunch of html

Ukto: its retarded as hell

Ukto: there are like 4 other things

Ukto: i can dig up later

Ukto: they just are not consistant enough

kakobreklaa: i use two calls

kakobreklaa: no prob so far

Ukto: that was teh most important one I needed

Ukto: and generally for blocks 2~6 blocks old

kakobreklaa: why did you need that

Ukto: simple way to verify random data :)

Ukto: for projects not yet public

Ukto: :P

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thestringpuller: lol

thestringpuller: were the dividends not large enough?

mircea_popescu: there was a large-ish buy right before

mircea_popescu: went on sale immediately after

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thestringpuller: heh

thestringpuller: the whale strikes again

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Diablo-D3: being sick sucks

Diablo-D3: as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this

Diablo-D3: its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there

Diablo-D3: anyone who didnt get a shot either didnt get this or has full blown flu

Namjies: Can't it be plain cold if it's not full blown flu you have?

Diablo-D3: no, I dont get colds. ever.

Diablo-D3: and flu is basically leathal for me

Namjies: How can you know it's not cold =/

Diablo-D3: I dont get colds. ever. I thought I said this.

Namjies: That's not a good arguments. You can't claim you're immune to every cold virus.

Diablo-D3: its a tradeoff from having allergies

markedathome: Discuss: web forums are the biggest step back in communications. They are bloated 2MBs of information per page for what should be approx 1-2000 words

markedathome: bring back cosy/tin/trn/cix!

mircea_popescu: and mpex :D

Diablo-D3: markedathome: its not the concept of forums do that

Diablo-D3: *that do that

Diablo-D3: its the shitty forum software

Namjies: How do having allergies prevent cold? O.o

markedathome: ?

markedathome: mircea_popescu: can i do ignore, prioritise, highlight,kill a thread? I don't think so :-)

mircea_popescu: ya well.

markedathome: Diablo-D3: it is absolutely the forum concept. a bunch of fucking idjits came along and completely missed the good things about threading in nntp/cosy/cix/bix/well and "re-implemented"

Diablo-D3: Namjies: it isnt supposed to, its a side effect

markedathome: and implemented all the bad. static pages built at each page request from a database...

Diablo-D3: markedathome: well thats the thing

Diablo-D3: the static page only needs to be about 200 bytes bigger than the content

Namjies: there's no such side-effect of allergies O.o

Diablo-D3: Namjies: trust me, there is

Namjies: You're telling me the fact your immune system reacts to certain substances makes it non-reactive to the cold virus?

markedathome: huh huh, well it uses mysql/progres-sql/db-de-jour, and php! and perl! and python! and ruby! and whatever took the "designer's" fancy that day

Diablo-D3: Namjies: allergies are an overactive immune system

markedathome: i'm surprised that no one had implemented a json decoder in xml for a brainfuck interpreted client running on java for a 3 page forum thread on the use of vinegar for descaling kettles.

Namjies: Diablo-D3 so how does that makes you immune to cold?

Diablo-D3: Namjies: it isnt supposed to

Diablo-D3: it just does for a lot of people who have severe allergies to stuff like trees and flowering plants

Namjies: Is that just an impression of yours or a scientifically recognized fact?

Diablo-D3: neither

Diablo-D3: a lot of allergen sufferers have noticed this

Namjies: It might just be that allergies and cold are hard to distinguish, having similar effects.

Diablo-D3: they're not similar

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Namjies: [16:20] <Diablo-D3> being sick sucks

Namjies: [16:21] <Diablo-D3> as far as I can tell, everyone who got a flu shot this year eventually gets this

Namjies: [16:21] <Diablo-D3> its not in the flu shot I dont think, its some combination of whats in the shot and whats out there

Namjies: ...

Namjies: [16:23] <Diablo-D3> and flu is basically leathal for me

Namjies: If that's not flu nor cold, what the hell is it then?

Diablo-D3: flu like symptoms

Diablo-D3: Ive never gotten it before

Namjies: Well might be your first ever cold... some people rarely get symptoms and usually have asymptomatic colds.

Diablo-D3: most likely not

Namjies: Well the two can be nearly identical, except for severity.

Diablo-D3: this feels like flu

Diablo-D3: Im just still alive

Namjies: If you have flu, you'd probably be sick like hell. Colds already feel like hell sometimes.

Diablo-D3: no, when I was a kid and got the flu, I would be in bed sick for 2 weeks

Diablo-D3: and everything would hurt

Diablo-D3: and my nose would flow with snot constantly

Diablo-D3: its the curse of being a severe asthamtic

asa1024: I have COPD and the docs wanted me to get a flu shot. I passed on it.

Namjies: yes. Hence why I'm proposing cold... the symptoms are mostly identical, except for severity and headache/muscle aches which are more frequent with flu.

Diablo-D3: asa1024: trust me, get it