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jurov: neither their requested rates
Bugpowder: OK what does this mean then?
Bugpowder: MPBOR valid 30 November through 28 December: 9.9%.
jurov: dunno where mpbor is actually used. maybe for margin?
jurov: when mpex paid interest, mpbor was used as a basis
jurov: mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us?
smickles: I know it's at least used to determin how much of the mpoebot profits go to the bondholders, and how much of their principal is returned to them if they bid too high
jurov: yes, but it is computed every month in the end when options expire and then not used for anything else?
smickles: I would venture to guess that it does influence the margin cost somehow too
smickles: and the B-S 'risk free rate'
jurov: btw, one can have a peek to 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR as to how much capital was provided by bondholders. but requested rates are between them and mircea.
smickles: jurov: I dunno, also, i think 'high rollers' can request a unique addy
smickles: clearly, i'm not a high roller, as shown by the tags sending to that addy
jurov: interesting.
jurov: haha yes blockchain.info readily identifies you there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00064 = 7.1002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5932 @ 0.00064 = 3.7965 BTC [+]
jurov: argh, these steady trades against the wall unnerve me
jurov: no volatility anymore
Bugpowder: Buy thru to 66
Bugpowder: get that volatility back!
jurov: so i shall put another loan request on btcjam?
Bugpowder: Req 4800 BTC to buy thru the annoying wall
jurov: ;;calc 7562321*0.00064
gribble: 4839.88544
jurov: ic. no problem for btcjam
jurov: in fact, last time i requested such loan, usagi accused me that i do it only cause i want some movement to show on the graphs
jurov: perhaps i wont ever forget such hilarity
mircea_popescu: <jurov> mircea_popescu, can you enlighten us? << well it's used whenever someone wants a reference interest rate.
mircea_popescu: much like the euribor/libor/etc
mircea_popescu: and yes, all bond deposits go to the bond address so people can see what's being deposited during each month.
mircea_popescu: smickles they can for their own account funding, but not for bonds
jurov: ok. so for example i can put on btcjam "interest rate: MPBOR + 1%" and everyone will know.
mircea_popescu: well... most everyone :p
mircea_popescu: but do it anyway, gives the kids a chance to learn
Bugpowder: how do you determine what bonds get accepted?
jurov: but if it's really going to get 25%.. that will be tough
jurov: Bugpowder, http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder all deposits over 100 btc are accepted. they only count towards a month's capital needs if they make the cut
smickles: jurov: you should do the rate based on what mpbor returns less the principal return
mircea_popescu: each month all bonds are sorted by their interest rate like in a normal auction
Bugpowder: and as the bids fill on the bot, more capital is accepted?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, more in general about mpbor : it's kinda intended as this hook for people to build stuff on. i dunno exactly what they'd build,
mircea_popescu: but im pretty certain it exposes something fundamental about btc macroeconomics
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00064 = 1.1168 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the needed capital is equal to the bot's maximal exposure during the month
Bugpowder: short puts have infinite exposure
smickles: wouldn't it make sense for lenders to build upon it somehow?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder how do you figure ?
Bugpowder: arent the puts valued at (strike-current)/current
Bugpowder: hence if current -> 0, puts go to infinity
Bugpowder: in BTC terms
jurov: smickles, that was Q for me? i was only half-serious, don't intend such loans atm. but we'll see
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00064 = 14.528 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: "MtGox’s estimated gross monthly revenue of 3-4`000 BTC stands up some months to S.MPOE’s."
Bugpowder: Gox makes money from both buyer and seller
Bugpowder: shouldnt' that be 6-8000
mircea_popescu: ya but you're not forced to account in btc terms
mircea_popescu: i silently insure them atm
mircea_popescu: in the future there'll prolly have to be something more ellaborate done about it i guess.
smickles: SOEBOT!
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder it's tough to estimate how much they make, cause of sliding % scales and whatnot.
sgnb: mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic?
mircea_popescu: sgnb which deal you mean ?
sgnb: financing MPOE by lending xxx.00000888 BTC
sgnb: http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
jurov: sgnb, that's exactly the bonds we're talking about all time :)
Bugpowder: The absolute minimum gox makes on any trade is 0.5%
mircea_popescu: sgnb yes, ever since thebeginning this is how the bot was financed. it's not going to go away either
Bugpowder: between two accounts that have volume of > half the monthly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 321 @ 0.00355083 = 1.1398 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00353592 = 3.5359 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00352003 = 3.696 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder iirc it goes to .3% privately.
mircea_popescu: .5% is what's publicly exposed
Bugpowder: 0.25% for >500,000 BTC /mo
mircea_popescu: o is it ?
Bugpowder: https://mtgox.com/fee-schedule
mircea_popescu: i guess must grow moar.
smickles: < sgnb> mircea_popescu: the "deal" mentioned in the link above is still on topic? /me now watches 1JPvuc for a tx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00064 = 17.76 BTC [+]
jurov: *shameless plug* sgnb: for investments under 100BTC, consider https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-O
smickles: jurov: how has that been selling?
Bugpowder: hmm.. 99,500 ฿0.1010
jurov: the first discounted 50BTC sold out. the rest we're gonna fill in ourselves
jurov: unless thre will be some last minute action
smickles: jurov: do you disclose the rate you bid at?
jurov: we'll disclose it afterwards. but as i said at forums, we'll go somewhere very conservative like 4.8%
mircea_popescu: well it'll be de facto disclosed on month's end seeing how you'll be in the list
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7813 @ 0.00064 = 5.0003 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7812 @ 0.00064 = 4.9997 BTC [+]
jurov: omfg
jurov: what to make of such pattern
smickles: Is there a concise name for the MPBOR rate less the % accounted for by the principal return?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00064 = 4.256 BTC [+]
smickles: aw, I was hoping the pattern would continue
pigeons: i call that rate one smickle
jurov: "rate one smickle"? not very concise
smickles: heh, I like it
smickles: fuck concise, it's not like that was the only criterion
smickles: ;D
smickles: "the smickle rate"
pigeons: smicklish
jurov: smicklez %
smickles: smickle vig
jurov: *jig
smickles: jig?
jurov: if it will be negative, we'll say
jurov: smickle jig , it is up
smickles: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00064 = 5.984 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
jurov: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlhB0UHVxS67dGpBc2Rub3FtLTdHZ3ZPb09DY2pHWlE
jurov: check the E column :P
smickles: :D
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: so i see jurov's pseudorandom number geenrator disguised as a trade bot is buying mpoe...
pigeons: emphasis on the psuedo
mircea_popescu: btw, from that link : "Utilizaţi un browser neacceptat. Este posibil ca unele funcţii să nu funcţioneze corect. Treceţi la un browser modern, cum ar fi Google Chrome."
mircea_popescu: you are utilizing an unacceptable browser. it's possible some functions do not function.
pigeons: unacceptable
jurov: i have no objection at all if the bot survived reboot and uses bitcoins from some parallel dimension,
smickles: http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE is boring now
smickles: that diffusion pattern from some time ago was much cooler
pigeons: agreed
jurov: nuff said. someone lend me 4800btc.
smickles: ok, mircea_popescu this close to expiry, my valuation of p130t shows a significant difference from mpoebot
mircea_popescu: ya well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00064 = 6.144 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if i don't sell ppl complain that i r manipulating the price by not selling
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8653 @ 0.00064 = 5.5379 BTC [+]
jurov: oh we (at least me) isn't complaining about you. nobody could predict it will create so strong hanging carrot effect
pigeons: usagi knew it would
pigeons: so did eskimobob and ciucuicuicui
jurov: ;;seen eskimobob
gribble: eskimobob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <EskimoBob> 50K ART is all gone :)
mircea_popescu: i've had that guy on ignore for a week or so
mircea_popescu: it pays.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064 = 6.4 BTC [+]
pigeons: i'm about to ignore assbot if he doesn't start reporting some different prices
mircea_popescu: whoa check out the sell side on mpoe
mircea_popescu: me, alone.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00064 = 4.832 BTC [+]
pigeons: mircea_popescu: loan jurov 4800 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00063994 = 1.0879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063973 = 6.2694 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00063946 = 1.3429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063945 = 2.9095 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00063943 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00063915 = 17.5447 BTC [-]
smickles: lol, assbot delivers to pigeons
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: heh
pigeons: fear me
jurov: i thought i have a bug on live.coinbr.com, that trade is not visible
jurov: but it's just completely insignificant
jurov: so much for pigeons power
thestringpuller: there you go different prices
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064 = 5.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4818 @ 0.00064 = 3.0835 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: I wonder if people will buy out tier 3 as well @ .00067
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: the price stabilizer :P
jurov: eventually they will
jurov: and at 0.0007 whole thing will be worth 700k BTC
jurov: and mpoe will become bitcoin central bank
jurov: if it sin't already
jcpham: crazy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00064 = 6.528 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: that's more BTC than pirate had
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: I think soon there will be so much free wi-fi available, you could in theory use the internet for free.
jurov: thestringpuller, where do you live? it's already practice here
jurov: i found out they put a hotspot into public transport bus, too
jurov: recently
smickles: I hear that in places like seatle, they actually have a functioning city-wide meshnet, a sort've independant internet
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> that's more BTC than pirate had << and more "had" than pirate's, too.
mircea_popescu: jurov the recent sell actually is in there! http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE << little barb to the left off that price harpoon
jurov: yes, it shows how insignificant it is
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when will mpex account holders have a copy of blockchain they can access via mpex and a BCCAPI server :P
thestringpuller: oh never? XD
mircea_popescu: why;'d they access the blockchain via mpex ?
mircea_popescu: this is like accessing your spoon via the bucket.
thestringpuller: aren't you planning to one day automate deposits?
mircea_popescu: nope.
thestringpuller: maybe I should have started with that
thestringpuller: WELL I SEE HOW IT IS
mircea_popescu: that's actually a service people can provide themselves.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064 = 5.952 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: what happens when you have a million users
smickles: thestringpuller: someone with accounts can automate deposits
mircea_popescu: actually, iirc kakobrekla's smpake either is or is going to.
smickles: damn, mircea_popescu beat me to it
jurov: and i'm well on the way to automate mpex deposits. already get email notifications
jurov: too
smickles: we can do instant deposits too
thestringpuller: all deposites go to <EditText android:id="@+id/edit_message"
thestringpuller: android:layout_weight="1"
thestringpuller: android:layout_width="0dp"
thestringpuller: android:layout_height="wrap_content"
thestringpuller: wow
thestringpuller: my buffers are not having fun today
mircea_popescu: omg hax
smickles: say jurov has 10 spare mpexbtc, I want to deposit 10 btc, i send 10 btc to jurov he txfrs 10 mpex btc to my account
thestringpuller: all deposits go to 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx <<
mircea_popescu: yea
thestringpuller: yea but what if I have an mpex account
thestringpuller: and I want to add btc to my account
thestringpuller: like a lot
thestringpuller: say 2000 BTC and no one has it to front
thestringpuller: how does that get processed?
kakobrekla: it doesnt
pigeons: does PUSH work with C.BTC?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean how ? 2k deposits happen routinely atm lol
mircea_popescu: pigeons yes.
pigeons: ok solved.
kakobrekla: well not via 10 spare mpexbtc
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : milk http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135571472587.jpg
kakobrekla: yummy
kakobrekla: imma gonna use this one
mircea_popescu: or it could be shampoo
jurov: mircea_popescu, FAQ says PUSH works for excluding cash
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah. it speaks lies.
smickles: thestringpuller: if you have an mpex account, you can deposit any amount you want
thestringpuller: but it's not automated
thestringpuller: as in 6 confirms
smickles: how does it get processed? manual confirmation
thestringpuller: i'm just splitting hairs
mircea_popescu: jurov fixed now.
smickles: a trained ape sees the tx, evaluates it, and flips a few bits on a hd
smickles: ;D
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you know, if you deposit 500 mn in 1mn bearer certificates in your bank account
thestringpuller: I was heckling you! I'm sorry.
mircea_popescu: automation and risk management are pretty much contrarian
pigeons: plus its pretty darn quick in practice, and its not like mircea_popescu is busy doing anything else if you wanna just bug him to process your deposit
jurov: haha, i could have been offering quick deposit service already, if i had the audacity to ask why faq says so
mircea_popescu: i am so doing anything else!
thestringpuller: waaaah i don't want to pay 20 btc for an account so I can slap around .05 btc on options
mircea_popescu: like girls and stuff.
mircea_popescu: jurov ikr ? kakobrekla asked.
pigeons: he would welcome the excuse to get out of whatever else he is engaged in to process deposits
smickles: kakobrekla: didn't we already do a quick deposit b/t each other?
kakobrekla: wha?
smickles: it was me and someone, idk
kakobrekla: deposit to where?
kakobrekla: perhaps glbse back in the day
smickles: I needed liek 10 btc on mpex quick, someone obliged
smickles: when mircea_popescu was asleep
kakobrekla: funny how i can say that after a month or so
kakobrekla: 'back in the day'
kakobrekla: no i dont think so
kakobrekla: i did glbse manually
jurov: it just never occurred to me to test push with cxbtc
kakobrekla: smpake does only gox for now
kakobrekla: it was written in smpake thread
kakobrekla: cxbtc will be supported as well
smickles: /g 17
smickles: er
thestringpuller: what's smpake?
kakobrekla: but then i figured i should better recode first
thestringpuller: oh i see
kakobrekla: thestringpuller smpake.com
jurov: OK, you can ask me as well to do it anytime, for amounts < 15BTC atm.
jurov: user interface on coinbr will follow soon
kakobrekla: well there you go
thestringpuller: i see kakobrekla i've used it before lol
mircea_popescu: cool stuff
thestringpuller: so I should know what it is
smickles: jurov: is there a fee?
thestringpuller: what's cxbtc?
pigeons: C.BTC
smickles: thestringpuller: it's how mpex displays your btc balance
jurov: smickles: no fee this year
mircea_popescu: no fee for you! come back, one year!
smickles: "this year", he says. crackin' wise, this guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00064 = 8.384 BTC [+]
smickles: jurov: let's test it!
jurov: yes?
smickles: send me 10 btc
smickles: ;;ident
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
smickles: 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F
jurov: no, you send me 10btc
jurov: [02:06] <gribble> Error: Problem creating encrypted OTP file. :(
smickles: well, I wanted to get 10 more btc onto mpex, not 10 less
jurov: i'm confused. you want to fund or withdraw?
smickles: fund
smickles: ;;calc 1.002**((1/24)/365)
gribble: 1.00000022808
jurov: In order to make this deposit please send to the exchange address ( 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx ) the sum of 10.00296524 BTC exactly. Your transaction will be manually approved, so please allow up to 48 hours for funds to show up in your account.
jurov: smickles, when i see the tx, i'll push the C.BTC to 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F
smickles: sent
mircea_popescu: this is odd
smickles: jurov: though, when you automate it, the client should send 10 btc to you, and you send the 10.XX btc to 1Fx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00064 = 14.624 BTC [+]
jurov: push done
smickles: received
smickles: ;;rated jurov
gribble: You have not yet rated user jurov
smickles: ;;rate jurov 1
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jurov has been recorded.
jurov: i can't auth with gribble
smickles: i'll verify your identity later
mircea_popescu: my question is, why do things this way ?
smickles: for when your trained ape is offline
jurov: it's supposed to be faster
mircea_popescu: but... if you send the btc to mpex's address it still waits on mpex ?
mircea_popescu: doesn't that defeat the entire purpose ?
jurov: smickles does not have to wait on mpex
jurov: only i have to, but i don't mind
mircea_popescu: i guess that's a point.
jurov: cause i must have some reserve on mpex anyway
mircea_popescu: anyway, the way push is structured there's nothing to prevent a lot of further development here. i imagine one next step is a loans secured by shares business
jurov: smickles: and i prefer users to directly deposit to mpex cause of faster turnover
mircea_popescu: and in the end i guess mpex accounts will look a lot more like banks than anything
jurov: <rant>maybe they will look like bank when balance+all pending transactions will be consistent at all times</rant>
jurov: all *shown* pending transactions, i mean
smickles: check out the spread on P130T
jurov: serious scalping opportunity, i say
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00064 = 1.984 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: buy 7 sell 8 satoshi ?
jurov: smickles is testing teh bot
smickles: clearly, it's an int division issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064 = 1.056 BTC [+]
smickles: srsly, mircea_popescu you need me to add this 15 satoshi of liquidity
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.32
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.00000008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00064 = 3.264 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i sure do!
smickles: how about that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00064 = 3.136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00064 = 1.088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00064 = 6.592 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7954 @ 0.00064 = 5.0906 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 24 minutes and 43 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00064 = 6.656 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 213943 | Current Difficulty: 2979636.6169381 | Next Difficulty At Block: 215711 | Next Difficulty In: 1768 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3347057.04349520 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.3310481711
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12183 @ 0.00064 = 7.7971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00064 = 6.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00064 = 8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00064 = 15.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00064 = 4.608 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;rated kakobrekla
gribble: You rated user kakobrekla on Thu Oct 11 11:36:14 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: facilitated a short term loan.
smickles: ;;rate kakobrekla 1 facilitated a short term loan, smpake.com is awesome. use it.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 1.
jcpham: the
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00064 = 2.656 BTC [+]
pigeons: commission for the previous 2 users goes to jcpham
jcpham: rofl
smickles: heh, I was an early user of smpake, this was just the first significant use
kakobrekla: i havent touched it in too long.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064 = 0.448 BTC [+]
pigeons: i touch it every day
kakobrekla: ;>
fulluser: hi
fulluser: this thing works like Forex
fulluser: or people actually hold shares for a long time
kakobrekla: what is this thing
fulluser: im new to this
fulluser: if you could explain it briefly
fulluser: works abosolutely like real stocks ?
kakobrekla: you mean mpex? yeah just like real stock. the glbse stock are completley virtual tho.
fulluser: you get live quotes like FX
fulluser: they change every 5 minutes or so like real world stocks
kakobrekla: are you a forex user?
fulluser: or people use to hold em
fulluser: yes
kakobrekla: oh well
kakobrekla: then you must check bit4x.com
fulluser: really
fulluser: can believe its real !
fulluser: and BTC varies way more than any coin
fulluser: !!
fulluser: has longer spreads ?
kakobrekla: you cant trade btc pair on forex, you can trade forex with btc
kakobrekla: profit and losses are btc
fulluser: oh well
kakobrekla: not euro dollar whatever
fulluser: i trade BTCUSD or EURUSD
fulluser: ?
kakobrekla: eurusd
kakobrekla: in btc
fulluser: worth trying thanks
fulluser: way to advertise the site
fulluser: Lol
fulluser: ;)
kakobrekla: well i thought you might find it useful since you mentined forex
fulluser: any restrictions on the bonus
kakobrekla: i could put it in the topic
fulluser: and yes you were right
kakobrekla: but nobody reads that
kakobrekla: faq: Am I eligible for the 5 BTC bonus?
kakobrekla: When you open a Live account a 5 BTC bonus will be awarded to your balance. In order to withdraw the bonus, one must have have closed at least 5 trades on the Live account.
fulluser: can you open me an account
fulluser: or mail is automated ?
kakobrekla: sure, send me an email as it says on the site
kakobrekla: its not automated
kakobrekla: but its the procedure
kakobrekla: if you send me the info now ill reply you with a deposit addy
fulluser: okay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00064 = 7.2 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: if you can deposit today youll get an account on monday
kakobrekla: or so
fulluser: where i can grab gpg for windows
kakobrekla: http://www.gnupg.org/related_software/gpa/index.en.html
smickles: ;;google gpg4win
gribble: Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows: <http://www.gpg4win.org/>; Gpg4win - Download Gpg4win: <http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html>; Gpg4win - About Gpg4win: <http://www.gpg4win.org/about.html>
fulluser: okay
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: best to sign it
kakobrekla: if you can be bothered
fulluser: better to not
fulluser: not a bitcoin adv user
smickles: kakobrekla: checkit, i'm blowing the socks off the mpoebot's prices on the 13,14 strikes
kakobrekla: smickles url?
Ukto: >,>
kakobrekla: fulluser, you didnt sign the email
kakobrekla: fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now
smickles: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P130T
smickles: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C130T
smickles: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T
smickles: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.C140T
kakobrekla: else ill do it w/o
kakobrekla: aaa
kakobrekla: not to shabby ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00064 = 10.88 BTC [+]
smickles: yeah, a little more bug testing, then I'll throw some btc at it, then later, I might seek funding for it too
smickles: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42174, Best ask: 13.43787, Bid-ask spread: 0.01613, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 19062.67342392, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.38236
smickles: we just hit 13.6 eh?
kakobrekla: again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7875 @ 0.00064 = 5.04 BTC [+]
smickles: lol, i just realized you could say that to any # up to 30ish
kakobrekla: yep
kakobrekla: :)
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.32
fulluser20: hi
fulluser20: sent you the mail (bit4x owner)
kakobrekla: 04:37.11 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser, you didnt sign the email
kakobrekla: 04:37.28 ( kakobrekla ) fulluser id you want your key id in your contract do that now
kakobrekla: yeah lets do this via pm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3385 @ 0.00064 = 2.1664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00064 = 5.312 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: smickles you know it doesn't price on the last day right ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00064 = 6.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13116 @ 0.00064 = 8.3942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00064 = 6.016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00064 = 8.128 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: yes, that's why i'm rockin' yo socks yo!
smickles: it was a joke :P
mircea_popescu: lolk
smickles: anyway, with the currently limited funds, i've expanded to the 12 to 15 range of strikes :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00064 = 9.216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9867 @ 0.00064 = 6.3149 BTC [+]
fulluser20: keyserver for mpex
fulluser20: ?
mircea_popescu: fulluser20 what do you mean ?
fulluser20: >gpg --search-keys "F1B69921"
fulluser20: (mpex key
fulluser20: no leyservers known
fulluser20: keyserver
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/faq.html#8
mircea_popescu: see that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064 = 3.2 BTC [+]
smickles: ok, assuming there are no more bugs, I've got a decent amount of optimization to do
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.33
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00064 = 2.8346 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: hm, are anyone else's intertubes all bolloxed up ?
Bugpowder: you settlements are all bolloxed up
Bugpowder: I can send details
mircea_popescu: please do
Bugpowder: check the office@polimedia email.
mircea_popescu: ye on it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00064 = 4.2464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00064 = 7.0317 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: how many are the putting in one device?
Bugpowder: 300MH/chip?
Bugpowder: Whales are back betting on S.DICE again
JWU42: BFL is going to be sending me money very soon
JWU42: might eb cancelling
Bugpowder: S.DICE up another 1000 BTC this morning.
JWU42: looking at Dooglus post?
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: my own analysis
JWU42: ahh
JWU42: oh yeah - you post in that thread as well
Bugpowder: I only consider bets over 10BTC
Bugpowder: since the last dooglas post
JWU42: with 250 BTC bets things can move quickly
Bugpowder: I think S.DICE is now >18,000 profit this month
Bugpowder: http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=&limit=1000&min_bet=10&status=ALL
Bugpowder: hah
Bugpowder: I don't think S.DICE mixes
Bugpowder: but I don't know much
Bugpowder: about that stuff
JWU42: I use Gox for that
JWU42: not mixing but atleast losing some identity
JWU42: when i feel the need
Bugpowder: the need for speed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00064 = 15.232 BTC [+]
JWU42: way to go Goose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26956 @ 0.00064 = 17.2518 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: re sdice and mixing
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the fact that they always repay to the address that sent make it impossible to use as a mixer ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, what exact identity is lost ?
mircea_popescu: if anything, it would degrade anonimity i imagine.
Bugpowder: yes
Bugpowder: that is my understanding
mircea_popescu: well so then wtf people keep going "o, it's used for mixing" as if it's some arcana they know about
mircea_popescu: fucking hell i need to stop listening to people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00064 = 1.664 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: btw jurov i always meant to ask, what's the br in coinbr stand for ? brazil ?
pigeons: well the coins you get back come from sdice, so there is at least that link
pigeons: BRoker
mircea_popescu: o
mircea_popescu: why not cnbroker lol
mircea_popescu: pigeons what i mean is, sdice does not sever the link. sure it varies the amt.
pigeons: i agree
pigeons: easy to agree with facts
mircea_popescu: ianae, but i imagine the only way to correctly mix is to use a single inbound address.
mircea_popescu: that pretty much makes all outbound coins "virgin"
mircea_popescu: in the same sense if not exactly in the same way as freshly minted coins
pigeons: i'll let you lousy criminals speculate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00064 = 3.424 BTC [+]
pigeons: laundering that porn money
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135670319079.jpg
mircea_popescu: she begs to differ.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00064 = 4.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00064 = 7.712 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: mircea_popescu has had you on ignore for months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35694 @ 0.00064 = 22.8442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12754 @ 0.00064 = 8.1626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11485 @ 0.00064 = 7.3504 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: the bully
thestringpuller: who will indirectly cost me 20 btc because he will drive usagi to suicide
pigeons: net win
thestringpuller: :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00064 = 15.616 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064 = 6.912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00064 = 7.424 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: heavy betting continues on S.DICE
Bugpowder: S.DICE lead down to 600 BTC on the morning
thestringpuller: whats the bet count?
Bugpowder: actually up 600 in last 32 hours
Bugpowder: bet count of 11,000 since 12-27-12 7:00
thestringpuller: looks like your speculation is proving right Dr. Bugpowder
thestringpuller: its Dr. right?
Bugpowder: yup
thestringpuller: so Dr. Bugpowder what are you gonna do with your bonus paid for by the ghost of satoshi?
Bugpowder: SPLIT 14 strike options and sell them short
thestringpuller: you think the price will hit 14 this month?
Bugpowder: who knows
Bugpowder: I care what it does next month
Bugpowder: and what range it does or does not stay within
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45011, Best ask: 13.48408, Bid-ask spread: 0.03397, Last trade: 13.45011, 24 hour volume: 20887.52776928, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.39768
thestringpuller: it will likely close no greater than 13.50 tonight
thestringpuller: a whale may come in and adjust the price thougb
Bugpowder: well as long as it stays between 11 and 17, I made money on options selling this month
thestringpuller: thats a wide position
thestringpuller: thats what she said
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00064 = 6.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11805 @ 0.00064 = 7.5552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00064 = 6.976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00064 = 2.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00064 = 7.744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064 = 8.512 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133700.0
kakobrekla: hmm
pigeons: ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133702.0;topicseen
gribble: What is the difference between MtGox and Dwalla?
thestringpuller: pigeons is what you said about pigeons true?
pigeons: close enough i reckon
pigeons: which thing?
thestringpuller: about the original pigeons being extinct
pigeons: yeah
thestringpuller: and the ones we find and citys and parks now are escaped pets
thestringpuller: that shit is nuts
thestringpuller: like some conspiracy shit
thestringpuller: I have an interesting idea for an offering but I will need to periodically perform reverse splits.
thestringpuller: (i.e. 1000 shares reverse split to 990 shares). Do any exchanges support share splits?
thestringpuller: ><
thestringpuller: stupid text wall
pigeons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon
pigeons: these are the ones you see now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Dove
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.34
thestringpuller: whoa
thestringpuller: ugh stupid option key
smickles: thestringpuller: probably not programatically, but I'm sure most, if run by good people, would do it manually
pigeons: oh good people, this is bitcoin
smickles: oh, thestringpuller you were quoting :|
thestringpuller: that was a post
thestringpuller: yea quote
thestringpuller: i'm on a ma
thestringpuller: mac
thestringpuller: I'm having trouble
pigeons: yeah they don't right-click either, i didnt know thye had problems with quote marks too
thestringpuller: they have trouble with giving me any keys other than apple button or options
smickles: so it turns out, you can't use gmail to send thousands of emails per day to yourself
thestringpuller: option*
smickles: "arg parser!" sometimes escapes my mouth in place of "aw, FUCK!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3175 @ 0.00064 = 2.032 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: smickles: are you writing Python REPL's?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00064 = 2.048 BTC [+]
jcpham: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/policy-implications-of-capital-biased-technology-opening-remarks/
smickles: buy my puts :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33288 @ 0.00064 = 21.3043 BTC [+]
smickles: jcpham: so, because people are rightly trying to avoid the higher form taxes, the people who plan to be depandant on that specific sort of tax revenue are boned?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00064 = 2.304 BTC [+]
jcpham: something like that is what i read
jcpham: that crazy krugman
pigeons: give him another nobel prize
smickles: nobel prized a perfect,
smickles: I love Obama's
pigeons: obama's was the peace prize for drone attacks, afghanistan and iraq?
jcpham: obama won a nobel prize?
smickles: yup, a for peace
jcpham: are you making that up?
smickles: no
jcpham: smh
Bugpowder: lol
smickles: and he got it after ordering things which resulted in innocent deaths
jcpham: if he gets one everyone else gets 100
jcpham: nobel prizes
smickles: and then went on to doing drone strikes which ended up killing children
smickles: and then pretending to cry about the deaths of children which he didn't cause
jcpham: pretty lame president if you don't kill somebody
smickles: and trying, maybe succeding to make it legal to kidnap and kill citizens w/o cause, documentation, trial, etc...
smickles: it's one sweet peace prize
jcpham: you must think you have rights or something
smickles: I'm just an uppity slave :p
jcpham: authoritarian regimes never allow citizens to affect change
jcpham: make sure to encrypt those emails kids
smickles: I don't even have a proper job, I'm not a good slave at all :/
smickles: but i suppose my wife being active duty makes up for my working for myself, rather than someone else
thestringpuller: smickles obeys the law though
smickles: yeah, I don't want to get in trouble :|
smickles: if the law gets too out of hand, i'll try to move somewhere else first
smickles: kinda like the 'vote with you dollar' concept
thestringpuller: thats too smooth
thestringpuller: if it gets too outta hand
thestringpuller: just leave heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9799 @ 0.00064 = 6.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00064 = 2.176 BTC [+]
jcpham: i'm sort of waiting for the day i'm branded a terrorist myself
jcpham: for using funny internet money
pigeons: vote wit yah feet
jcpham: market making, profit taking
smickles: mircea_popescu: "Your order #4828665 has been canceled" << see what's missing there?
mircea_popescu: nope :D
smickles: ;;google canceled
gribble: Cancelled Vs Canceled | Reference.com Answers: <http://www.reference.com/motif/language/cancelled-vs-canceled>; canceled - definition of canceled by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/canceled>; Is the correct spelling of the word 'cancelled' or 'canceled': <' target='_blank'>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_correct_spelling_of_the_word_'cancelled'_or_'canceled'>
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: lol
jcpham: i lost a 6850 this week
mircea_popescu: old age ?
jcpham: actually it has already been rma'd once
jcpham: it just sucks
jcpham: i just bought this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010
jcpham: to replace it while i rma it again
jcpham: i'll gpu mine until i have to pay for a power bill
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 13.33
smickles: uh-oh, jurov it's having trouble finding order #'s now :o
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40091, Best ask: 13.44997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04906, Last trade: 13.40091, 24 hour volume: 21262.83730854, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.41324
thestringpuller: 5 hours till settlement no?
smickles: there abouts
smickles: it's 19:19 utc
smickles: so 5.79 hrs, i think
thestringpuller: 4.79
smickles: heh, yes, 4.79
smickles: secret of my success baby
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: there is nothing to do at work
thestringpuller: they are essentially paying me to talk here
jcpham: i'm about to leave work myself
jcpham: be back wednesday
thestringpuller: i wish i could leave
jcpham: just do it. screw those bosses and their work
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: dissident are we?
jcpham: mvp's usually are
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00064 = 3.9078 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4436 @ 0.00064 = 2.839 BTC [+]
jcpham: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OKFhItNAjZI/UN30OiV0H3I/AAAAAAAAMxA/c_tp4ihAU40/s640/meth+masturbation.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00064 = 7.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00064 = 7.68 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol thestringpuller-pr
jurov: smickles, told ya
kakobrekla: evening.
jurov: 'night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10154 @ 0.00064 = 6.4986 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064 = 1.6 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: not yet
jurov: ;;ident jurov
gribble: Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245', is identified as user jurov, with GPG key id 677ABD62D0AEE7D7, key fingerprint BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7, and bitcoin address None
jurov: i heard there was some filthy impostor doing mpex fundings with smickles
jurov: ;;rated smickles
gribble: You have not yet rated user smickles
jurov: ;;rate smickles 1
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user smickles has been recorded.
jurov: ;;rated Ukto
gribble: You have not yet rated user Ukto
jurov: ;;rate Ukto 2 pleasure to work with him (no homo)
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Ukto has been recorded.
Ukto: roflol
jurov: ;;rated jurov
gribble: You have not yet rated user jurov
jurov: ;;rate jurov 10
gribble: Error: You cannot rate yourself.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21070 @ 0.00064 = 13.4848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14843 @ 0.00064 = 9.4995 BTC [+]
smickles: heh, thx jurov
Bugpowder: Latest Dooglas post is out. 33737.14961221 Profit for S.DICE
Bugpowder: so up to ~17,700 for the month
Bugpowder: If only these S.MPOE bots would train there sights on S.DICE we could get a decent valuation.
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.45768, Best ask: 13.49769, Bid-ask spread: 0.04001, Last trade: 13.49883, 24 hour volume: 23420.32427228, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42037
smickles: ;;calc 17700 / 100000000 / 0.0037
gribble: 0.0478378378378
smickles: ;;calc 1500000*0.0037
gribble: 5550
smickles: anyone have 5550 or so btc to lend?
smickles: I'll pay back 1% per the term
smickles: term ending on jan 6
jurov: Bugpowder, how exactly do you suppose the bots for s.dice would work?
Bugpowder: buy
Bugpowder: same way they are working for S.MPOE
Bugpowder: just buy
Bugpowder: I haven't seen a sell on S.MPOE in 2 days
jurov: oh...er...how do you know these are bots?
Bugpowder: 14,000,000 shares
Bugpowder: what else could they be
Bugpowder: A steady drip of 2-20BTC buys
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42001, Best ask: 13.48878, Bid-ask spread: 0.06877, Last trade: 13.42001, 24 hour volume: 24188.06995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
Bugpowder: 13.5 is going
Bugpowder: down
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41102, Best ask: 13.48877, Bid-ask spread: 0.07775, Last trade: 13.41102, 24 hour volume: 24188.07995503, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42310
jurov: i can imagine someone programmed a "bot" for dripping buys of s.mpoe
Bugpowder: it's weird
jurov: but that's just a script, not a real bot that makes decisions
Bugpowder: yeah
Bugpowder: but its just super steady small lot buys
Bugpowder: all day all night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00064 = 4.9862 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: cough
Bugpowder: well
Bugpowder: I hope it keeps up through the divvy payment
Bugpowder: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: it's like someone forgot to change the setting on their bot after the secondary offering
Bugpowder: And they have 1000s of coins to play with
jurov: but why would they do it?
Bugpowder: they are gone on vacation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10 @ 0.00351365 = 0.0351 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: YAY
Bugpowder: I might be overexposed to S.DICE
jurov: no i mean.. do they fear that buying it all in one go would cause X?
Bugpowder: it's like they have a bot that hits the ask every 15 minutes
Bugpowder: and sells when the bid goes over the purchase price
smickles: maybe to try to catch some lower sells
Bugpowder: but it cant go over cause the secondary offering
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00064 = 4.704 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: LOL
jurov: smickles yes, their idea might be, to get better price.. but that's totally not working now
Bugpowder: The funny thing is.... it's not exploitable by us either
jurov: .. unless someone lends me 4800 btc, ofc
smickles: ;;getrating jurov
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@2001:5c0:1400:b::1245 . User jurov, rated since Fri Jan 20 15:16:32 2012. Cumulative rating 17, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 8 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jurov
smickles: jurov: what rate would you pay for ~100 btc?
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.41005, Best ask: 13.48989, Bid-ask spread: 0.07984, Last trade: 13.49995, 24 hour volume: 24497.02820033, 24 hour low: 13.25000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.42369
jurov: i won't make a scratch on that wall with 100btc
smickles: I just figured i'd go fishin'
Bugpowder: ;;calc .00064*6234323
gribble: 3989.96672
Bugpowder: 3 more days like this and its gone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00064 = 5.888 BTC [+]
smickles: someone should be watching known/suspected mircea addys for possible connection to these buys, on the off chance that a connection is made
smickles: it'd be complicated tho
smickles: I should just pretend to do it and make regular reports saying there is no connection to raise confidence
mircea_popescu: how do you calculate being overexposed ?
smickles: probably something to do with the slipage involved with a sale of a large portion of it
mircea_popescu: i been trying to calc stuff like that with about 0 success
mircea_popescu: mostly cause the market is so random
kakobrekla: soh
kakobrekla: mpex has 30times the volume of largest SL exchange
smickles: then incorporate random walk theory mircea_popescu ;)
thestringpuller: SL?
kakobrekla: second life
mircea_popescu: smickles ya lol
kakobrekla: shit i dont even have the first one
mircea_popescu: excep this is more like random pounce
mircea_popescu: yest i looked into market, there were absolutely NO offers of s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: other than mine
thestringpuller: more dividend power
thestringpuller: buyers market at this poinr
smickles: mircea_popescu: that's a spooky fact
smickles: maybe it's cause there arn't enough people will balls enough to short it
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing, theres a PILE of buys
mircea_popescu: or was
mircea_popescu: ya still is.
Bugpowder: all paid in advance
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00064 = 1.472 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fact is, i've seen more nonsense in btc finance than all togetgher anywhere else all time.
mircea_popescu: embodiment of fucken chaos.
kakobrekla: goes together with the crypto anarchism i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00064 = 1.024 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Well, its 3.38M shares of bids > .00058
Bugpowder: around 2100BTC
Bugpowder: And if this tier sells thru, the bot might make a profit
Bugpowder: heh
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.42002, Best ask: 13.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07998, Last trade: 13.42002, 24 hour volume: 22418.93354803, 24 hour low: 13.30000, 24 hour high: 13.64990, 24 hour vwap: 13.43718
mircea_popescu: course some it bought at 6.2
mircea_popescu: there were 10mn at 6.2 too\
Bugpowder: yeah I wanted in at 62 but had no free capital
mircea_popescu: compared to the earlier buy of sdice at 18...
mircea_popescu: ima be telling my grandkids about that
Bugpowder: yeah but very low volume
Bugpowder: on the 18
Bugpowder: right?
mircea_popescu: no ?
mircea_popescu: like 1,5mn
Bugpowder: I thought it was only like 300 shares that popped off at that price
Bugpowder: o
mircea_popescu: was a small one early
mircea_popescu: the next day, massive sellout
mircea_popescu: let me find this
Bugpowder: I dare say it spooked the market
Bugpowder: S.DICE price has never recovered
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:23 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:24 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:26 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Dec 21 23:50:27 <assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: fuck that
mircea_popescu: lol
smickles: lol, someone sold right b/f the end of the world
mircea_popescu: whoa
mircea_popescu: i didn't notice this at the time
mircea_popescu: you seriously telling me it was a millenarist thing ?!
smickles: maybe
Bugpowder: cryptoanarchist
mircea_popescu: what were they going to do with bitcoins ?
smickles: go to space w/ the greys
mircea_popescu: why bitcoin and not bottlecaps ?
smickles: bitcoins, being man's great acheivement, are like aboriginal boomerangs to the greys
mircea_popescu: o i c
mircea_popescu: i'll say this, it may be the case we have a real market here on the strength of the criteria that it makes absolutely no sense.
smickles: no sense? it's an unyeilding techincal (chartist) breakout
smickles: and it has the best fundamentals of any freely available bitcoin investment