EskimoBob: what, you guys are not happy for me? :)
mod6: jurov does brokerage
Anduck: do you wanna be ma broker for S.DICE?
dub: midnightmagic: thats coingenuity afaik
Anduck: and how much Azelphur takes as fee?
Anduck: cuz i would prefer Azelphur cuz he's here and i like him
Azelphur: I don't do brokerage, so try the others first
Anduck: how much ya take fee for s.dice brokerage?
smickles: it seems to be the cheapest on the market
smickles: no fees other than that commission on buys/sells
smickles: and I give .1% apy on btc balances
Anduck: smickles: are you trusted?
Anduck: i don't really remember - sorry
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com . User smickles, rated since Wed Jan 4 18:28:52 2012. Cumulative rating 78, from 48 total ratings. Received ratings: 47 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 47 positive, 5 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=smickles gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
jcpham: anduck don't let gribble fool you
dub: Azelphur: you should pop my rating cherry
gribble: You have not yet rated user dub
gribble: You rated user jcpham on Thu Aug 16 09:11:10 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: None.
gribble: You rated user smickles on Wed Aug 15 10:56:42 2012, giving him a rating of 5, and supplied these additional notes: Top notch community member..
Azelphur: ;;rate dub 1 Asked me to pop his rating cherry
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
jcpham: smickles if we've rated each other, does that mean we are in collusion?
Azelphur: dub: how do you not have a rating after all this time
gribble: You have not yet rated user dub
jcpham: i think i have ratings for pigeons also
dub: ;;rate Azelphur fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC
gribble: Error: 'fulfilled' is not a valid integer.
dub: ;;rate Azelphur 1 fulfilled mining contract for ~30BTC
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Azelphur has been recorded.
dub: Azelphur: I only regged yesterday
jcpham: ;;rate dub 1 wastes much time on irc
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
pigeons: i imagine you'll be hearing from the investor
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dub has been recorded.
EskimoBob: I guess so. Guy placed like 290+ BTC
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask dub!dub@unaffiliated/dub . User dub, rated since Wed Dec 19 14:09:17 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=dub dub: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 owns MPEX, hasnt stolen my BTC
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu . User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu dub: the first person not to steal my btc?
gribble: Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@84.245.71.31', is not identified.
jurov: need to do business?
pigeons: more fun to not auth and see what happens
pigeons: now we watch EskimoBob crash the price of litecoin as he cashes out to buy his equipment
jcpham: if litecoin price crashes, does anyone really lose?
jcpham: i keep hearing about it
jcpham: i think there is an exchange
mircea_popescu: i must confess, of all drama sources for this wednesday the last thing i was expecting was r.ver going berserk.
mircea_popescu: btc drama has much in common with spanish inquisition.
EskimoBob: pigeons: :) I have to do this really carefully. No hurry or this will get ugly :)
gigavps: or as he calls himself, "bitcoin jesus"
jcpham: bitcoin jesus like historical jesus
jcpham: or bitcoin jesus water into wine
pigeons: "I'm Roger Ver, the most prolific Bitcoin investor the world has ever seen"
jcpham: all of us are like historical jesus
gigavps: well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot
jcpham: i didn't get to see the spasm
jcpham: so he actually used those words
pigeons: no he actually spelled most as "post"
gigavps: he's a little full of himself after that comment
jcpham: gigavps are you taking roger's money?
gigavps: coinlab is paying me 25% moar for the next three weeks
jcpham: i think i have like 6 left
gigavps: he was part of the $500k round
jcpham: that's crazy over 4btc
pigeons: so the big thing now is that blockchain.info had previously claimed that links from "anonymous" addresses were not logged
pigeons: yet there was an admin interface to look this up
jcpham: oopsie, forgot to tell ya'll about that. we have to spport people
Bugpowder: damn. buyer didnt cut into the S.DICE Tier 3.
Bugpowder: just the the market buy through and we are gonna be at .005
mircea_popescu: <gigavps> well, after his spasm today, he's more like bitcoin idiot << i think btcppl don't get enoug hsleep.
Bugpowder: In a liquid market, price will drop the value of the dividend payment.
jurov: eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service
Bugpowder: some people will sell right before the divvy to maximize thier sale price
Bugpowder: some will be buying right after on the dip
Bugpowder: someone will make more money than the other person
Bugpowder: but in an efficient market, it will drop divvy value
pigeons: less bubblicious than mpoe
Bugpowder: everything hinges on if S.DICE can keep up the betting volume
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder it doesn't make so much sense to drop div value seeing how this is a btc sort of company. no assets.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i never saw a bubble consisting of price movement from 32 to 37.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu I disagree, market prices in the value.
Bugpowder: S.DICE was slowing down until the whales showed up
mircea_popescu: ya i think it was trading more on momentum/inferred momentum than anything
mircea_popescu: ahaha digging through old posts, 2 Aprilie 2012 One website offering Bitcoin options trading was ‘listed’ this month for an implied valuation of half a million dollars. Sursa : Reuters.
jurov: hmm...in fact i remember coinbr getting some funding from similat whale-ish addy
smickles: < jurov> eveyone, remember these people. they are agents for smickles' shorting service << mwahahah
Bugpowder: There is still a lot of time left before div payment and trading volume tends to increase prior to payment.
jcpham: yeah i had to close that blockahin link
jcpham: i hope that's a lucky bot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061898 = 2.6746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.000619 = 2.3392 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i kinda rue the day one of these whales discovers what reverse martingale is and tears sdice a new one.
jurov: in other news, it looks like s.mpoe trades thinned to a trickle
dub: I think this roger ver business is grounds for a round of panic selling anyway
gribble: Error: "tickee" is not a valid command.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.43403, Best ask: 13.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.06096, Last trade: 13.49499, 24 hour volume: 34245.99274865, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37071
pigeons: i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin
gribble: Error: "tickle" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> i like how he thinks his whining will harm bitcoin << werd.
dub: most prolific bitcoin masturbator throws toys, SELL WHILE YOU CAN
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if im the only btc investor that gets laid.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13887 @ 0.000619 = 8.5961 BTC [+]
jcpham: is whether or not giga is a scammer based solely on the GIGAMINING asset or some other event?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you already know whats going on there
Diablo-D3: nefario thinks he can win in court by not giving giga the info or the btc
dub: bitcoin, its democratastic
Diablo-D3: seriously, 3M has been after me for my chest hair, its the most abrasive shit ever
dub: what would be the point?
dub: the only reason to sue in rota is if the other pary has a reputation to lose
dub: nefario will need a new identity to get anyone other than amir to trust him
jurov: well,in fact i tried to inflict upon Ukto the agreement that if violated, shall be judger by rota
jurov: but he said he forgot pgp passphrase :/
gribble: Nick 'Ukto', with hostmask 'Ukto!~Kami-Sama@99-30-79-193.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.
jurov: no that is not fully correct. in fact he first said that his software has no clearsign function
jurov: he uses kleopatra on windows or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.000619 = 1.9598 BTC [+]
pigeons: ;rate Ukto -1 he uses kleopatra on windows or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4784 @ 0.00061999 = 2.966 BTC [+]
jcpham: sue me in romanian court and pay for my plane ticket
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0036 = 18 BTC [-]
jcpham: like romancing the stone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00061999 = 11.1598 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu, why messing with tickets. just put a reward on jcpham. dead or alive
jurov: (for court, he's better alive i guess)
mircea_popescu: "bring one jcpham impaled on an 68 inch sperm whale cock, preferably alive. reward 11 btc"
Diablo-D3: the BFLS and BFLS.RIG tickers are inaba's
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128556 @ 0.00061999 = 79.7034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484344 @ 0.00062 = 920.2933 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and he started them BEFORE he was hired by BFL
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, honestly, he should
Diablo-D3: yeah, he should just shove a fair ratio down their throats
pigeons: someone asked me if there was bfl or if it was all a scheme by inaba
pigeons: i know some folks who have visited the shop and met everyone
Diablo-D3: bfls and bfls.rigs represented the same ratio of ownership of their hardware
Diablo-D3: I forget what it was, but it was like 1/200th of a single or a rig respectively
mircea_popescu: pigeons o that actully happened ? i thought it was just planed
Diablo-D3: and singles into rigs is a integer number
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00062222 / 0.00063666 (2141211 shares, 1,332.30 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053683 / 0.00063995 (104071550 shares, 55,869.67 BTC)
Diablo-D3: so you CAN figure out how much ownership a share of BFLS is on rigs
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368484 / 0.0036995 (671563 shares, 2,474.60 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343671 / 0.0037 (7280181 shares, 25,019.89 BTC)
mircea_popescu: this is like,... the first time ever something trades moar in a day than s.mpoe i think
pigeons: no not yochdog, but folks have been there more than once and gotten the tour, talked to everyone etc
Diablo-D3: pigeons: people who I dont trust, however
mircea_popescu: pays in a month the sort of divs fiat corps pay in 5 years
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.49452, Best ask: 13.51990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02538, Last trade: 13.52000, 24 hour volume: 34243.77923978, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.37348
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: whats the equiv APY on that
pigeons: i am sure the people i am talking about aren't lying. that doesn't mean these people aren't being scammed by bfl
Diablo-D3: like, friedcat is going to send me a board for evaluation and DM dev
Diablo-D3: we'll know in 5 seconds flat if its the real deal or not
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 if you put in 3200 to buy 1% of S.DICE at ipo you now have ~3684.84 btc worth of shares + 139.42 btc worth of dividends, for a total gain of 624.26
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: how many days ago was IPO?
mircea_popescu: and well... she was bad pr and they were bad investors. win-win.
mircea_popescu: but all the action recently is prolly due to the ~15k they're making this month
mircea_popescu: which adds another 150 btc to that equation, taking total net to 770ish
assbot: [MPEX] [X.AWHG] 134 @ 0.06165072 = 8.2612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 45 @ 0.25573768 = 11.5082 BTC [-]
jurov: btw, how X.IDIFF.DEC settled?
gribble: Error: "difficulty" is not a valid command.
pigeons: Ukto: offer to settle X.IDIFF via hashpower.com
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.60000, Best ask: 13.60061, Bid-ask spread: 0.00061, Last trade: 13.60000, 24 hour volume: 38724.18251965, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.60000, 24 hour vwap: 13.39880
assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.DEC] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 / 0.0327929 (1 shares, 0.03 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.07995 / 0.07995 / 0.07995 (20 shares, 1.60 BTC)
smickles: and at a better price than mpoebot
Bugpowder: don't want to get locked out of my account
smickles: and I don't have a bot running yet either
mircea_popescu: I know there was some trading going on, but the volume was almost non-existent, as most people held on to the shares. Regardless of what may have happened on the exchange, the shares were never meant to be a trading stock and for all intents and purposes, I used GLBSE as a glorified excel spreadsheet to handle the distribution of the mined funds in a fast, easy manner. From the volume, I think most people agreed with
mircea_popescu: "Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours. "
pigeons: "Please don't leave Nethead. Scammer or not, Bitcoin needs people like you just as much as Bitcoin needs businesses like ours."
mircea_popescu: is it like... a curse ? someone set them up da voodoo ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062 = 7.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00062 = 1.829 BTC [+]
Anduck: what does it matter is it real or fake??
mircea_popescu: people have lately gotten in this habit of claiming any large round tit is the result of surgery.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00062 = 1.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00062 = 4.619 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00062 = 1.891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00062 = 3.162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7738 @ 0.00062 = 4.7976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00062 = 8.184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13153 @ 0.00062 = 8.1549 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00062 = 6.5608 BTC [+]
dub: ;;rate jcpham 1 drives a Toyota
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jcpham has been recorded.
EskimoBob: yawn... nice weather we have today! -15 and windchill -24
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00062 = 8.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8220 @ 0.00062 = 5.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00062 = 1.519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00062 = 4.929 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4738 @ 0.00062 = 2.9376 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00062 = 3.906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6732 @ 0.0006195 = 4.1705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7874 @ 0.00061946 = 4.8776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12512 @ 0.00061935 = 7.7493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00061925 = 1.2075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00061903 = 7.0879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0006189 = 1.671 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00061887 = 4.4559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00061849 = 2.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00061837 = 4.2049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00061793 = 2.9043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12132 @ 0.00061767 = 7.4936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6422 @ 0.00062 = 3.9816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350838 = 3.5084 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9948 @ 0.00062 = 6.1678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00351012 = 1.053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5802 @ 0.00062 = 3.5972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7770 @ 0.00062 = 4.8174 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2118 @ 0.00062 = 1.3132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062 = 6.665 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6731 @ 0.00062 = 4.1732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00062 = 6.107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00062 = 4.588 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15946 @ 0.00062 = 9.8865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00062 = 2.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10913 @ 0.00062 = 6.7661 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062 = 3.038 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062 = 3.782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5531 @ 0.00062 = 3.4292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00062 = 7.688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37086 @ 0.00062 = 22.9933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00350838 = 2.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00062 = 9.207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368607 / 0.0036995 (658562 shares, 2,427.51 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343695 / 0.0037 (7293593 shares, 25,067.73 BTC)
thestringpuller: smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: are you waiting for sdice to pass some serious gas and keel over?
Ukto: pigeons: Can I get your opinion
Ukto: on the changes I made?
Ukto: i changed the ordering buy/sell boxes
Ukto: and added some quick fill buttons
Ukto: and some highlighting
Ukto: to remind you before hitting the button
pigeons: yes i didn't like the reverse order
pigeons: hey it looks fine to me. but i just press buttons
Ukto: I was able to save some screen space by shrinking them down
Ukto: think its less confusing saying Max Cost, and Min Earned ?
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: It's not going to kill over but it's a mini bubble atm
Ukto: Did you know that firefox.. has a 3d view for webpages?
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: did you sell some or are you just planning?
Ukto: i have alwayas used firebug 0,o
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: if people start eating into the .0037 ipo then I will
thestringpuller: Ukto: but now I hate you because you are using too much CSS and javascript
Ukto: did you even have one to start with ?
Ukto: I have been using a crap ton of in-line css
Ukto: so I gave up on the css sheets
thestringpuller: why do people want to make their stock exchanges so pretty?
EskimoBob: Ukto: why those buttons on trade history page? (SELL)
Ukto: EskimoBob: click em
Ukto: the are jus pretty markers
Ukto: and its obviously confusing
Ukto: so I will be changing it out
Ukto: less than 1 btc since it lanched
thestringpuller: you could be usin' that time to collect yo money elsewhere
Ukto: thats what this is all about
Ukto: I'll go look in just a few, how about that
Ukto: no more giving me shiz :P
Ukto: and you wear a BF badge :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Ukto:What if switch assetlist and market in the menu
EskimoBob: I rather see the market data first
Ukto: EskimoBob: the sub-nav is diff for logged in/not
Ukto: the blue is pretty hard on the eyes
Ukto: compared to the easy to read blue letters below
Ukto: they are within a twitch of a space of click
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062 = 10.54 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: this is called "porno blue" for some historical reason. Actually all the 256 palette colors are :)
thestringpuller: i think the btc community uses more bootstrap than anyone else lol
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: no, if you believe anything that lunatic PR baba says, then everyone is a complete retard in btc world, except her of course
thestringpuller: I don't care about anything that goes on in the forums tbh
EskimoBob: or is there any other PR-jokes around?
EskimoBob: OK, time to get ready for the meeting.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00062 = 5.332 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.44569, Best ask: 13.52978, Bid-ask spread: 0.08409, Last trade: 13.44569, 24 hour volume: 48118.47436117, 24 hour low: 13.20001, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.45404
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00062 = 3.751 BTC [+]
Ukto: thestringpuller: you recognize the char in the avatar?
Ukto: thats a character from an old anime
Ukto: first time I ever used it
Ukto: was digging through some files from a real old computer, came accross a scan of an animation cel I have, and used that
Ukto: cleaned it up a bit, remove dhte background
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00062 = 7.13 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: 6 hours later I finally solve my LaTeX formatting issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]
pigeons: i know they dont have those in romania, hence no startups
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu you should just take down the mpex front end site
thestringpuller: and say, "you bitches complained too much about Web 2.0, now you shits get nothing. Good luck"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00062 = 6.293 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: are girls under 18 illegal to exist or illegal to be naked in your jurisdiction ?
jcpham: it's actually 19 in my state
thestringpuller: in high school this girl put pictures of herself on the internet to piss off her ex
jcpham: we protect them for an extra year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00062 = 1.178 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00062 = 0.868 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0006151 / 0.00061987 / 0.00062 (2624777 shares, 1,627.03 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053765 / 0.00063995 (104594132 shares, 56,235.22 BTC)
thestringpuller: I'm trying to see your correlation between DWAVE and the ASICS market
thestringpuller: Sarcasm on the internet is like being sarcastic to an autistic child for me
thestringpuller: I remember reading about this a few years back when I was getting into HPC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2640 @ 0.00062 = 1.6368 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "It is actually much worse than the imbeciles attempting to convince the world they have a working quantum computer, as at least some of the quantum computing community laughs at them in public."
jcpham: Our current superconducting 128-qubit processor chip is housed inside a cryogenics system within a 10 square meter shielded room. If you are interested in finding out if this quantum computing system meet your needs please contact us for more information: sales@dwavesys.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: note the same bad grammar as is par for "asic" "companies".
jcpham: just need a 10 suare meter shielded room
jcpham: and you can hack the planet, i mean blockchain
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is Ver so high on your shitlist now that Bitinstant and Friends are blacklisted too?
mircea_popescu: he's not particularly high on my list, he did something stupid and got thrashed for it, apologized, hopefuly got the lesson
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: remember our discussion about the composite Cocoa trading
iz: jcpham: also, it's not 128 qubits entangled with each other, it's like.. clusters of 4 (or 8 or some smaller grouping)
iz: that work in parallel
jcpham: it seems like i read the announcement on that company a month or so back
jcpham: and the technical discussion was basically like " it isn't a quantum computer"
iz: yeah, a while ago they made news when lockheed bought one of their things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4210 @ 0.00062 = 2.6102 BTC [+]
jcpham: i have issues with my words being picked apart by clowns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4807 @ 0.00062 = 2.9803 BTC [+]
jcpham: or i can just read and practice restraint
jcpham: i don't actually have to contribute to absorb it all
jcpham: i think sequencing is now like 98% accurate
jcpham: i thought i read the other day how they took sperm plus egg from different hosts
jcpham: and sequenced 98% of baby
Bugpowder: what have they synthesized that has folded properly
Bugpowder: but you get a yield of 98% per step
Bugpowder: the right sequence can auto-fold in the right environment
Bugpowder: but synthesizing a 300AA string with any yield is not so easy
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00062 = 3.937 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: the research spawned from that paper of what I'm talking about
Bugpowder: First red flag "The Media Laboratory
Bugpowder: Worked at the media lab as an undergrad
Anduck: sorry i cant open links atm
Anduck: what possible uses are there for that?
Bugpowder: The maestro looks like a nice tool for screening new genetically encoded indicators
mircea_popescu: ahahah so EskimoBob is really an estonian undergrad with some bs archeology programme ?
mircea_popescu: lmao on the interwebs all the dogs don't know they're dogs anymore.
Bugpowder: There aren't that many cool applications for these arrays in a dish though. the brain isn't flat
Bugpowder: and brain slices are dying and have no connections to other areas
Bugpowder: the most interesting stuff you can do with the MEAs is studying retina
Bugpowder: This company makes some useful stuff.
Bugpowder: you can record from many sites in the awake behaving brain
Bugpowder: I have used them and also done some custom design work in house
Bugpowder: hence, not optimistic about ASIC delivery windows
Bugpowder: just getting the probes off the chip and flat took over a year of refinement
Bugpowder: balancing the stress levels of each layer
Bugpowder: not sure if that would be an issue with commerical ASICs though
Bugpowder: There is a new project that is going to do much more advanced probes with a $5M budget
Bugpowder: collab between several funding agencys
Anduck: or well they can but in the end, nah
Anduck: it's totally possible to make an asic
Anduck: but might take time if there isnt some very good hw makers making one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00062 = 5.952 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: if you have the funding, you can get it done, eventually
mircea_popescu: the ideal situation would have been for 2-3-4 companies coming to market within weeks
Anduck: afaik there are some stuff current btc-asic makers are fighting
mircea_popescu: that is not going to happen with the sort of muppets doing it
Anduck: there will be none in a month
Anduck: they dont even have the chips
mircea_popescu: Anduck i meant within weeks of each other, not within weeks of now
Anduck: almost missed this train cuz of traffic
Anduck: ill be bach in a sec to talk bout asics n stuff
thestringpuller: we spend too much time robbing each other why not just rob a really rich person
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00062 = 3.255 BTC [+]
jurov: thestringpuller, was it you who bitched about some rich friends that can't be convinced to go btc and instead smoke weed?
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -13.2747973704 % based on data since last change | -15.1045589685 % based on data for last three days
gribble: Current Blocks: 212920 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 775 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 29 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2922796.99440957 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.2747973704
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how do we get 1bn into BTC besides robbing someone? this is taking too long
mircea_popescu: just, rich person puts a wall on mtgox, 5mn btc demanded at 200
mircea_popescu: that's the end of it, btc will never be under 3-400 after that.
jurov: Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the kitchen table : "i swear to god this soup makes me blush"
thestringpuller: the 1bn foundation (rich people give us your money so we can make a bidwall, promising 50% ROI)
Ukto: jurov: do they get enough readers?
Ukto: btctalk or elsewhere
jurov: Ukto i got several times more visits from reddit than btctalk
jurov: well, i still don't know exactly what is ukto asking about
jurov: just thrown in some observation for coinbr
Ukto: [10:45] <jurov> Ukto, are you trying to post to btctalk as someone else or?
smickles: < thestringpuller> smickles: ^^^ seems possible to short even before the div's have paid<<< indeed
Ukto: I was just responding asking its worth it
jurov: Ukto I was talking about the link you posted
jurov: it smell like request forgery or whatever it's called
Ukto: stupid forums linkerary
Ukto: there, last line of his post :)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i meant in the "o, what will they think what will they say will they agree" sense.
Anduck: whatcha guess, when will the first one be ready?
Anduck: remember, they need to make asics, put them on a board and program the whole thing for it
mircea_popescu: Anduck im pretty sure asics will be delivered by a company
thestringpuller: the design needs to be done before announcement time and the fabrication needs to be happening before a ship date is even conceived
thestringpuller: BFL let their PR get out of hand and they are probably blowing money on expensive cars and shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6428 @ 0.00062 = 3.9854 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00351012 = 2.8292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 244 @ 0.00351012 = 0.8565 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 806 @ 0.00353878 = 2.8523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1394 @ 0.00353878 = 4.9331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 376 @ 0.00355273 = 1.3358 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00355273 = 0.0213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00062 = 3.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062 = 7.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00062 = 4.898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00062 = 8.68 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: he rants about how 3/4 of their "10 bn" was made by airbnb and some other shit site
Diablo-D3: I have discovered the most wrong thing on youtube ever
Anduck: i had some BFL-FAIL shares of yours
Diablo-D3: nefario hasnt published the goddamned fucking list yet
Diablo-D3: the fucking 30 some BTC is sitting right here waiting to go
Anduck: he did tell me how much i had shares
Anduck: they published the list atleast of some shares, right?
Anduck: i just asked nefario if i happened to have some shares
Anduck: i had forgot i had ASICMINER
Diablo-D3: a lot of people won. a LOT of people lost, and they didnt even own success shares
Anduck: i only thought i have a little BFL-fail and BITVPS
Diablo-D3: re asicminer, friedcat is just going to launch his own exchange
Anduck: do u have any ASICMINER shars
mod6: (09:33) < thestringpuller> nickserv
Anduck: do u have any BFL, DD3?
Anduck: thestringpuller are you the puppet master?
Diablo-D3: Anduck: NO ONE HAS ANY BFL, DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Anduck: Diablo-D3: happy christmas man!
Anduck: thestringpuller: aight
mod6: thestringpuller: just workin.
mod6: actually, im about to run out and see if I can get my new phone.
mod6: i hate the cell companies. vzw are a bunch of savages.
mod6: anyway, wish me luck. bbs :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15792 @ 0.00062 = 9.791 BTC [+]
smickles: It’s trading at 27 now, and the only way it ever touches IPO levels is through the continued good orifices of Fairy Godmother Bernanke.
mircea_popescu: used to like graham 10 years ago, but by now he sounds like a stuffed manequin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00062 = 2.108 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I had almost totally blown up my account
Bugpowder: was down to $500 in front month puts in RIMM
Bugpowder: then they dropped about $20 a day for three days in a row
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00062 = 5.89 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Somehow I lost all my money shorting the market with front month options in 2007 and 2008
mircea_popescu: but i literally did not have enough capital to go as short on rimm as i wanted.
mircea_popescu: 5 dollar 140 and 12 dollar 145 puts was much nicer than 4:1 margin on stock
smickles: mircea_popescu: so how many S.MPOE are floating around the market now, I see that therea are a little under 50mn for sale right now
mircea_popescu: smickles well the last announcement in nov i had 958mn iirc ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062 = 5.549 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I would just read Denninger's blog and be like, must buy puts on CFC, Downey
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: thoroughly mind numbing idiocy working its way towards the sitcom
mircea_popescu: your sitcom can be either of two things : funny or successful.
mircea_popescu: if you mean fun in the sense of submissive women you'd be better off doing porn than daytime tv.
thestringpuller: the funny thing about that clip is start up businesses really do that when they get their initial funding...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12853 @ 0.00062 = 7.9689 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: they hire a basketball player to sit around and shoot hoops all day
thestringpuller: you could create the same system locally using a an NFS share along with a few scripts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00062 = 3.41 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it gradually but graciously allows that market to use it.
mircea_popescu: Google used to give me a page of the right answers, fast, with no clutter. Now the results seem inspired by the Scientologist principle that what's true is what's true for you. And the pages don't have the clean, sparse feel they used to. Google search results used to look like the output of a Unix utility. Now if I accidentally put the cursor in the wrong place, anything might happen.
mircea_popescu: The way to win here is to build the search engine all the hackers use. A search engine whose users consisted of the top 10,000 hackers and no one else would be in a very powerful position despite its small size, just as Google was when it was that search engine.
mircea_popescu: me being here, a few others being here is what supports btc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 319 @ 0.00350838 = 1.1192 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: possibly. succes is always the sound of the cool kids club going to shit.
mircea_popescu: and it's inevitable in the sense all decay is inevitable
mircea_popescu: so if you really want success, just make cool kids clubs.
mircea_popescu: they'd better be REAL cool as opposed to the play=pretend, circle-jerk, self-granted cool any backwater town kids bestow upon each other for lack of alternatives.
thestringpuller: heh, I'm a scientist I would rather see money in the hands of people like Bugpowder
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 106 @ 0.0035 = 0.371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 894 @ 0.00349819 = 3.1274 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00062 = 3.844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062 = 1.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00062 = 2.604 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00062 = 5.828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062 = 6.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00062 = 6.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]
Ukto: so I knew it was comming
iz: what ever happened w/ pirate and btcst? did anyone ever sue him or whatever?
mod6: i thought mircea_popescu was just fucking with you all
iz: haha, wait.. no.. not really? really?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00062 = 2.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2036 @ 0.00350019 = 7.1264 BTC [+]
mod6: (13:07) < mircea_popescu> o so pirate paid ?
mod6: I thought this was a total joke. ^^^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35095 @ 0.00062 = 21.7589 BTC [+]
mod6: so he paid up with all the account holders? everyone still got screwed via the bonds though.
mod6: YESTERDAY, ALL MY BTC SEEMED SO FAR AWAY
mod6: NOW IT LOOKS AS THOUGH PIRATE PAID
mod6: SO I BELIEVE IN YESTERDAY
mod6: (that last part was a joke - I never gave pirate or btc&st anything)
EskimoBob: LOL, looks like the bitcointalk retards have opened a comedy club
EskimoBob: I was laughing so hard that I had tears in my eyes. At least they are entertaining
mod6: Yes, good deal thestringpuller. Hmm.. I gotta check and see if I can squeeze in like an hour here... one sec.
mod6: haha. im usually around, but yeah.
mod6: I can take an hour after the next 50 minutes. I gotta prepare a bit for this IBM call I've got at 4.
mod6: does that work? otherwise sometime later tonight is fine too.
mod6: lets see... it would be 16:00 EST
mod6: that I'm availble, i have my call at 16:00 CDT
mod6: No sweat, i'll come back here in a bit and try to find ya.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00062 = 6.076 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.52003, Best ask: 13.60699, Bid-ask spread: 0.08696, Last trade: 13.52003, 24 hour volume: 34745.59293995, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.51611
dub: so pirate paid back, ewxpect a big sell off, time to get in first before teh panic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00062 = 14.043 BTC [+]
dub: I want my $10 xmas bitcoins goddamit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00062 = 2.914 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: you have no idea. I was just reading what The Augustocroppo was writing. I mean, this guy.... fuuuuck :)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24678951 = 246.7895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00062 = 5.611 BTC [+]
Ukto: what exactly, are you about?
smickles: does mpexagent return an ordernumber when it places an order on mpex?
jurov: no, it would have to create one
jurov: you have to call statjson and match the order later
smickles: how do you associate mpexagent orders with their mpex counterparts to cancel them when desired?
smickles: thestringpuller: yes, I take it that I didn't notify you of that?
smickles: jurov: I was hoping that you had it all in one simpe function which i could draw inspiration from :|
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7896 @ 0.00062 = 4.8955 BTC [+]
jurov: that code is not in mpexagent, it's cinbr secret sauce
smickles: can I see it an buy it off of you if it fits my needs?
smickles: thestringpuller: i've made hundreds of btc off of similar things
smickles: meh, I know what I need to do, the fee for copy/pasting most of it seems too high to me jurov ;)
smickles: thestringpuller: a while ago I wrote an elliot wave based multiexchange+bitcoinica trade bot
smickles: it was worth a lot to some people
smickles: and the guy selling it for me sold a bunch more copies than he told me about, so I could've made a lot more too :/
jurov: well, maybe you'll come back in 2 months, with foul cries about quantum order waveforms
Ukto: jurov: your supposed to compile it, and sell recurring licensing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]
smickles: jurov: I promised only 6 months of support
jurov: no, seriously. we can make an agreement, but i won't release it cheapy
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> whoa buying code <<< MPEx has built an ecosystem
jurov: * will raise fee to 10BTC/hr for consulting then
smickles: jurov: I just want the one part that fetches an order number from a recently placed order, I don't think that's worth 99btc
smickles: it's probably better for me to write it myself anyway
jurov: but that's actually largest part of it
smickles: 'cause i'd have to adapt your code to my bot
smickles: mircea_popescu: why doesn't it return an order no?
jurov: because it is likely the order never got an id and got executed instead
mod6: when you place any order, it returns the order number in the reciept
mod6: sorry, its only in the STAT
mod6: it does return a statement of what order was placed though.
mod6: but yeah, no number. but this was by design.
mod6: to eliminate some HFT type stuff right?
mircea_popescu: not exactly. the system you're talking to has no idea/not the authority to know what order id the order will get or how will be executed
mircea_popescu: and as the entire thing is stateless the only thing you can do is examine the state later
mod6: My original plan here was just to display the order id's through the JSONSTAT
mod6: maybe jurov's is simialr?
jurov: mod6, you have to gather transactions, subtract them from the order you placed if they match
smickles: I wonder if i can get away with a 'cancel the order that looks sorta-kinda like <this>' function
jurov: and *then* matche the order with the list
smickles: mircea_popescu: this is why mpoebot places orders for limited time, isn't it
mod6: orders can have expiry's or not
mod6: or is that different?
mircea_popescu: i mean... it'd be in any case more effiicent to place limited time orders given that the bot knows how often it runs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00062 = 2.263 BTC [+]
smickles: bah, i would be satisfied with buying mpbor, but I suspect the thing i'm writing will be more profitabled
jurov: incidentally, i just met a friend who want to do hft bot
jurov: he was enraged with mircea's anti-hft preacutions
smickles: what? like no liquidity-adder rebate?
smickles: isn't that how hft makes most of its money?
jurov: no, the slow order placing/cancellation
mod6: yeah HFT would make me leave mpex
mod6: because i don't want to fight a fucking bot to place an order
mod6: that article on ZH really blew my mind. i'd be like fuck it. market tis brok3d.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00062 = 8.091 BTC [+]
mod6: everything that can be done to preserve the organic market of mpex should be
mod6: it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs
smickles: well, damn, i don't think I can put off order number fetching any longer
jurov: cue that boromir meme "you don't simply fetch order number in mpex"
smickles: mircea_popescu: would you not like it if I had a ~500 iteration loop which called statjson until it saw the order pop up, if at the end of the 500 iteration it haddn't, it would just assume it got executed?
jurov: smickles, what i'm trying to explain, you have to account for transactions
jurov: cause if half the order gets executed, only other half get an ID
smickles: jurov: I know, but I'll be putting only one order up at a time, so if anything shows up with that mpsic, that's it
jurov: ah, then okay. but you still have to filter txs from previous orders.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> no, the slow order placing/cancellation << order placing isn't slow ?
jurov: yes! it shows in statjson in only 2 to 20 seconds !
mircea_popescu: <mod6> it may possibly be the only real market in the world, even guys in nyc or chicago trading pits have to combat these HFTs <<< i know. atm i actually do have an edge over nyse/etc.
jurov: ofc. for certain value of "fast".
mircea_popescu: the twitter to assbot latency is larger than the mpex.co to order queue latency by a degree of magnitude
jurov: like i'm using assbot...puhlease
mod6: mircea_popescu: i agree. If I was there in the pits and my client called me to place a market order immediately and i was being front run by an algo, i'd go banananas.
smickles: it seems, i'll stat, order, stat for diff untill i can reasonably assume that it was fully filled
jurov: yes, just that code that can "reasonably assume" it is far from trivial.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00062 = 12.958 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00062 = 2.666 BTC [+]
jurov: w00t all promotional shares of CoinBr.MPBPT shares sold :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00062 = 6.355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @ 0.00062 = 6.4796 BTC [+]
jurov: nobody wants teh codez. cheapskates.
jurov: them scammers? never
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00062 = 3.7615 BTC [+]
jurov: really, if a bank approached me for that.. that would blow me off
mircea_popescu: they have no way of knowing you exist, not like socgen trolls irc
jurov: so you meant it the other way around? me going to the bank, offering interface to that mpex thing?
mircea_popescu: that's when what you learned fucking with it will command 10btc/hour