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mircea_popescu: i have no idea.
thestringpuller: no ideas at all? like fo realz, how would go cryptoanarchy on it?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15378 @ 0.00062613 = 9.6286 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: we should just overthrow the government in a small country and ship from there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3222 @ 0.00063375 = 2.0419 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: why exactly wouldn't you pay taxes ?
thestringpuller: because it supports people on welfare...
mircea_popescu: seems cheaper than overthrowing a government
thestringpuller: and defeats the purpose of decentralization
thestringpuller: i'm just being overly libertarian today... :P
mircea_popescu: lol k
thestringpuller: i'm workin' hard to move this cocoa
thestringpuller: why should the hipster barista's see a dime of it?
mircea_popescu: lol. they smell it anyway
thestringpuller: because they fail at life, thinking that going to art school for $20,000 a semester would train them to write the shitty movie that they're parents are paying for
smickles: thestringpuller: I can't currently try to pull off illegal things
thestringpuller: XD
thestringpuller: okay so how do we do it legally
thestringpuller: how many tariffs we gonna have to pay
smickles: and I mean, specifically, things which are illigal where I am or where my immediate family is
thestringpuller: btc based physical future delivery isn't illegal in the US is it?
smickles: thestringpuller: i'm unsure, but I think we'd only pay tarrifs if we imported things
thestringpuller: my idea is to price everything based on farm distribution
thestringpuller: we'd buy directly from willing cocoa farmers and that would set the baseline price for the market
mircea_popescu: that'd prolly work.
thestringpuller: from there it's underwriting the future contracts in a fashion similar to the mpoe bot
thestringpuller: i only keep bringing the bot up because he tends not to lose money in the longterm
mircea_popescu: the mpoe bot is b-s tho. i don't imagine you need something like that if you have price and forecast inputs from the farmers.
smickles: thestringpuller: you wan't to do actual publicly traded futures in 'merica?
thestringpuller: it's be btc based though so it wouldn't be limited to america
thestringpuller: the clearing house would just be in murica
smickles: I'm sure there are a ton of regulations to comply with then
smickles: do you have a lot of capital to launch it?
thestringpuller: capital isn't an issue
thestringpuller: well it won't be an issue
thestringpuller: it's the regulation that's the issue
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i fail to see the sense, if the cocoa isn't produced in the states why centralize it there ?
thestringpuller: the whole point of btc is to be self regulating...
thestringpuller: i just happen to live here
mircea_popescu: kinda dubious criteria
smickles: get an employee in columbia or wherever
thestringpuller: i mean I can send people to columbia or wherever the fuck the farm is and they can set up a trailer office there
thestringpuller: but the LLC will likely be american
mircea_popescu: why ?
thestringpuller: cause I live here?
mircea_popescu: so ?
thestringpuller: i mean if you can make it so I have control and it's in another country (some vehicle to do that) I'd rather go that option
thestringpuller: like romania :)
mircea_popescu: you can make a corp in any country wth.
mircea_popescu: hire a local lawyer you'reset.
thestringpuller: is it really that easy?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062518 = 2.7014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10689 @ 0.00062507 = 6.6814 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: logically, a lawschool student incapable of drafting incorporation papers isn't able to graduate.
mircea_popescu: in any country.
mircea_popescu: like a doctor that can't feel tits.
thestringpuller: i think they call that molestation
thestringpuller: smickles: what is your take on this physical delivery of futures
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm not familiar enough on practicing the business in 'merica to render much of an opinion. but Ideally, it sounds easy. make contract, honor the contract
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17185 @ 0.00062507 = 10.7418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7791 @ 0.00062292 = 4.8532 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: smickles what about the underwriting model? the mpoe bot seems to make most of it's money because it prices the contracts effectively
thestringpuller: but fairly enough that it's worth purchasing at times
smickles: there are models for futures too, actually, it's possible to even use b-s, as options and futures can be converted to one another
mircea_popescu: sure, just not ususally done
thestringpuller: would you be willing to help me with the model?
thestringpuller: if I can prove that the capital is a done deal
thestringpuller: there are 2-3 people in the coffee world who would be interested in funding this endeavor
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller basically, you know what delivery costs, you know what you can buy cocoa for, so offer that
mircea_popescu: and offer to buy at a spread under
mircea_popescu: no magic involved
smickles: If you really need help with a pricing model, I can probably help you punch the numbers into one of the standard formulas
thestringpuller: well less help with the model and more with the accounting, I would like to retain your btc accounting services
thestringpuller: mainly because I feel this will get regulated
thestringpuller: and then that opens mpex up to regulation...
smickles: ah, you want me to do bookkeeping and reports for you?
thestringpuller: yes and general advice like when the feds come
thestringpuller: i meant, when the spanish inquisition comes
thestringpuller: http://mpex.co/faq.html#34
Diablo-D3: no one expects the spanish inquisition
Diablo-D3: frankly, I think they're hiding in the fridge
Diablo-D3: open it to get a soda BAM, forum threads spill out with scam accusations
thestringpuller: i thought you were a scammer
Diablo-D3: nope
Diablo-D3: just someone who got scammed by nefario
thestringpuller: i was just trollin'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00062292 = 2.2681 BTC [-]
smickles: thestringpuller: you must know i'm not an expert in commodities trade regulation
thestringpuller: cocoa is currently at 3 units
thestringpuller: oops 4
thestringpuller: for the month
EskimoBob: if you have not noticed, there is a new virtual security in litecoinglobal https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/ART
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: cocoa is sold all over the wold. Why not talk to some of the guys?
thestringpuller: ...
EskimoBob: maybe you can use existing delivery networks to get your goods moving
thestringpuller: the idea is to sell cocoa through mpex
thestringpuller: and deregulated from the current market it's pegged at
EskimoBob: hmm.. contraband?
thestringpuller: no just shipped using a different currency?
thestringpuller: it'd be like someone using gold bars to buy oil or something
EskimoBob: you do not ship currency, you ship goods
smickles: thestringpuller: from what i'm reading, it is generally illegal for 'mericans to offer futures to other 'mericans, unless it is done on a US regulated exchange
EskimoBob: you get paid in BTC and this is your business
thestringpuller: ...
thestringpuller: no one currently sells mass amounts of cocoa for btc
thestringpuller: there'd be multiple trade steps
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: I am not sure why is this even important. BTC is just a way to transfer fiat
thestringpuller: also with physical delivery of a futures contract I imagine with something like cocoa it'd be a way to move cocoa from a place of high supply to low demand
thestringpuller: by from market X that is in indonesia during a good season sell beans to coffee shops in new york
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062318 = 2.6928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00062292 = 2.534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00061823 = 1.7978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10679 @ 0.000618 = 6.5996 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13474 @ 0.00061761 = 8.3217 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: do you see that BTC has actually nothing to do with that :) You need to move goods - few metric tons of beans ?
mircea_popescu: well, futures are not commonly used for procurement irl, but that may be different for btc i guess
smickles: thestringpuller: it seems that my company might have to register with the NFA
mircea_popescu: the national football association !?
smickles: indeed
EskimoBob: you need to use established shipping routes, wholesellers etc
mircea_popescu: wtf ?!
thestringpuller: lol procurment
mircea_popescu: yes ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061771 = 2.6691 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1521 @ 0.00061761 = 0.9394 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7958 @ 0.00061732 = 4.9126 BTC [-]
smickles: ah, thestringpuller foreign business that do futures business with us customers need to get an exemption from the cftc
EskimoBob: for start. Go sell a bag of beans you get wfom local whole seller and see what happens. Then try to buy a bag from X and send get it to your destination Y and see, what happens.
mircea_popescu: smickles at the leves involved i would imagine this would simply count as contract sourcing.
smickles: so if you want to do this, you either need to 'know your customer' or not live in 'merica
thestringpuller: people run companies from prison
thestringpuller: american prisons
thestringpuller: called club fed
thestringpuller: there's gotta be away to live here and operate it
EskimoBob: you can live where ever you want but you need to have a actual company in those countries :)
thestringpuller: even if the physical side oftheoperation is being run by romanian orphans
EskimoBob: and that's why I am telling to use distributors that are set in those countries. Not sure, what the value is you actually add to the deal but this is up to you to figure out ;)
thestringpuller: smickles: i refuse to be regulated, if money launderers want to by lots of coffee let them
smickles: heh, thestringpuller i don't see anything about the accountant needing to be registered with the nfa
EskimoBob: do they?
thestringpuller: lets do it!
thestringpuller: this is gonna be so much fun
EskimoBob: get yourself a 65 Kg bag and see, what you can do with it :)
EskimoBob: and I recommend looking around a bit. who is your competition for start
thestringpuller: dude that's not the point eskimo
EskimoBob: what is the point?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5272 @ 0.00061732 = 3.2545 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: ask yourself: what is the value I am offering to my clients?
EskimoBob: figure out your businessmodel and for start, test it on paper
thestringpuller: ...
smickles: thestringpuller: I don't think I could take you on as a client if I suspected your business operated in violation of the gov't's rules
smickles: thestringpuller: essentially, if you set up a foreign company to do this, and get a lawer to look it over and say it's ok, then I could
thestringpuller: “The thing that needs to be emphasized is that futures contracts are risk management tools,” Harangody says. “They are not intended to be procurement contracts” due to the expense and difficulty of meeting the exchange’s requirements. It’s easier to exit your responsibilities in the futures contract and go into the spot market and buy or sell those commodities, he adds.
smickles: but, as I am trying to become a CPA in the future, there are ethical guidelines I need to adhere too
thestringpuller: I think as mircea_popescu said, it'd be more like a contract settler
smickles: I just need to be reasonably sure that it's not illegal for you to do ;)
smickles: bbl
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: would physical delivery be a stepping stone for a procurment market?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea. irl futures rarely deliver
mircea_popescu: but btc is often paradoxical.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2020 @ 0.00061732 = 1.247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00061715 = 4.9989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0006162 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00061574 = 9.2361 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00061533 = 13.3219 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3825 @ 0.00061469 = 2.3512 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: someone is selling lol
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what value do you see physical delivery bringing to btc?
thestringpuller: is it just because that's the way contracts were always done?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062348 = 2.6941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5755 @ 0.00062368 = 3.5893 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it makes prices be provably fair
mircea_popescu: othwise futures markets fail to work, as icbit is on the verge of proving
thestringpuller: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0006235 = 1.247 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so flash contest : first to correctly identify the money in the clip gets 0.1337 btc. http://trilema.com/2010/portret-al-artistului-la-tinerete/
kakobrekla: Venezuelan bolívar?
smickles: mircea_popescu: chilean peso?
mircea_popescu: nope
thestringpuller: mpoe lost money in october and november?
smickles: thestringpuller: no?
kakobrekla: costa rica colon?
mircea_popescu: hehe yeah. addy ?
kakobrekla: hum lemme find one
mircea_popescu: look under bed
mircea_popescu: it's where i always find mine
kakobrekla: 1P9rQm6AfVXuzPtQf8B9pT4aeoPFAzKZ72
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: it was behind it
thestringpuller: http://trilema.com/2012/mpoe-november-2012-statement/
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the bot itself turning a profit and mpoe showing a profit are diff things
mircea_popescu: due to the cost of capital involved.
thestringpuller: explain
smickles: thestringpuller: basically, the bondholders took some of their own principal
mircea_popescu: well, take nov. the bot made about 2k btc trading about 20k each way.
mircea_popescu: but because it used ~40k btc to insure its trades and they ended up auctioned for like 9.9%
mircea_popescu: it ended up paying 4k in interest, so mpoe showed a -
thestringpuller: who pys the 9.9 percent mpoe?
mircea_popescu: yea
thestringpuller: so how is that a profit?
thestringpuller: there was a 2k loss
smickles: everyone involved mad btc
mircea_popescu: ...
smickles: *made
smickles: 2k of principal was returned
mircea_popescu: smickles i really have to come up with a better accounting scheme for this, it confuses EVERYBODY
thestringpuller: it really does
thestringpuller: out of 41252 btc's of bondholder money 1961 was lost
smickles: mircea_popescu: if you capped the % to not return principle, it wouldn't show a loss
thestringpuller: but the bond rate made it so half of that wa returned
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2321 @ 0.0006235 = 1.4471 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13795 @ 0.00062368 = 8.6037 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller see -pr's explanation to rassah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1386249#msg1386249
mircea_popescu: smickles yeah i guess, but for one i'd end up with having to round interests.
smickles: mircea_popescu: or, you could but a line item in underneat the 'loss' line explaining that X of the loss was returned principle
mircea_popescu: i suspect that'd make it more c onfusing.
smickles: that way, unless there actually was a loss, the two would cancel each other out
mircea_popescu: i think ima end up hiring free accounting support for random members of the public
thestringpuller: the mpoe-pr explanation is ridiculously clear
mircea_popescu: by now mpex is obscure enough to warrant a fucking qualification
thestringpuller: so this makes much more sense
mircea_popescu: like a 40 hour course
thestringpuller: heh
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller she's gifted.
thestringpuller: in more areas than one (pun intended)
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm just suggesting to put the equivilant of this "1,961.31822035 BTC extra, which were also needed to pay the bondholders was actually taken out of their bonds" right under the -1`961.31822035
mircea_popescu: mayne as a footnote or something
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller in many areas and some zones
thestringpuller: so the -1961 needed to pay out positions on the contracts
thestringpuller: that's taken from the bond
mircea_popescu: its actually needed to pay interests
thestringpuller: so where does the profit come from?
mircea_popescu: basically, bondholders asked for 9.9%. mpoe made enough to pay ~5%. the rest came out of their capital, as a sort of amortisation of a bizzare kind
thestringpuller: oh
thestringpuller: heh
mircea_popescu: it's like, you lend 1k and say you want 10% a month.
mircea_popescu: if the business makes enough to pay you 10% fine
mircea_popescu: if not, it gives you back some of your capital.
mircea_popescu: eventually you passively get all your capital back if the business sucks.
thestringpuller: but mpoe annually makes money?
thestringpuller: octoboer and november seemed like bad months
mircea_popescu: well 1. you mean mpoe or the bot and 2. make money for whom ?
thestringpuller: for you the busiess
mircea_popescu: that;d be the shareholders.
thestringpuller: yea
mircea_popescu: it ALWAYS makes money for shareholders on the grounds it can never lose any.
thestringpuller: can the bondholders exit their bond position and get their entire principle back in a liquidation event?
thestringpuller: after settlements
mircea_popescu: they can ask for their capital back at any point
mircea_popescu: will receive it at the end of the current month.
thestringpuller: very effective model
mircea_popescu: :)
thestringpuller: but ideally the bot needs to make money
thestringpuller: you are the pimp the bot is the hoe
mircea_popescu: the bot itself only lost money two months out of 10
mircea_popescu: one was significant (august)
mircea_popescu: the other was some pennies in june i think
thestringpuller: what about october/november
mircea_popescu: in november it made like 2k
mircea_popescu: in octomber i dun recall lets see
thestringpuller: oh
thestringpuller: i see
thestringpuller: jeeze
thestringpuller: i'm fucking dumb
thestringpuller: it's just confusing
mircea_popescu: you're right in oct it lost like 25 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063363 = 2.7379 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3078 @ 0.00063375 = 1.9507 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7001 @ 0.00063861 = 4.4709 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1151.23669403-1129.93294445
gribble: 21.30374958
mircea_popescu: to be precise.
thestringpuller: in november it made around 2k
thestringpuller: okay
thestringpuller: it's just the capital expenses that make it so tough
thestringpuller: 9.9%
thestringpuller: geez
mircea_popescu: was huge capital base too.
mircea_popescu: the thing is see, if bot trades 20k contracts it matters A LOT
mircea_popescu: if those are 2k open/close/open/close
mircea_popescu: or 20k open then closed
thestringpuller: half of it was you though
mircea_popescu: cause it needs a lot moar then
thestringpuller: but it seems like the bot is getting reemed on the capital expenses
mircea_popescu: ;;ident smickles
gribble: Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is not identified.
thestringpuller: why are the capital expenses so high?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well people can always put their btc in more bonds
mircea_popescu: cause that's what bondholders ask for. its an auction model
thestringpuller: 5-6% seems more reasonable for both parties...
thestringpuller: so the minimum asking was 9.9%?
thestringpuller: jeeze
mircea_popescu: no, mpoe always pays max % accepted
mircea_popescu: if someone puts 5k at 1%, someone else 2% at 3% and someone 100 btc at 25%
thestringpuller: oh
mircea_popescu: and 7.1k are needed
thestringpuller: yea
mircea_popescu: it will pay 25% on 7.1k
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1664 @ 0.00063005 = 1.0484 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: because of that model the % was higher
thestringpuller: now I see what you see
thestringpuller: that amount of capital needed to trade drives up the price of capital expesnes
thestringpuller: expenses*
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: and in any event, i don't think THE ENTIRE world of BTC paid 2k interest on deposits last month.
mircea_popescu: so you know... MPOE is the financial center of lending by a fat margin.
thestringpuller: but the bot is getting lent money
mircea_popescu: ya
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17588 @ 0.00063861 = 11.2319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3361 @ 0.00063861 = 2.1464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00063864 = 15.2316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00063925 = 0.6322 BTC [+]
smickles: ;;ident
gribble: You are not identified.
smickles: :o
smickles: ;;ident
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5011 @ 0.00063925 = 3.2033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6267 @ 0.00063949 = 4.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2622 @ 0.00063995 = 1.6779 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ident smickles
gribble: Nick 'smickles', with hostmask 'smickles!~smickles@mostofmany.com', is identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0006337 = 3.5487 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2657 @ 0.00063005 = 1.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3393 @ 0.00062981 = 2.1369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00062981 = 13.0056 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;rate mircea_popescu -10 FUCKIN SCAMMER!!! Has MILKed me for over 0.1336 BTC!! PROOF!!
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 2 to -10.
mircea_popescu: where's your address!
kakobrekla: i gave it to you
mircea_popescu: eh!
kakobrekla: 00:29.46 ( mircea_popescu ) look under bed
kakobrekla: 00:29.49 ( kakobrekla ) 1P9rQm6AfVXuzPtQf8B9pT4aeoPFAzKZ72
kakobrekla: 00:29.49 ( mircea_popescu ) it's where i always find mine
mircea_popescu: where1
mircea_popescu: duh
kakobrekla: between the lines
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4594 @ 0.00062981 = 2.8933 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00062725 = 6.8998 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6656 @ 0.00062505 = 4.1603 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: twas 1337.
mircea_popescu: sent you 1336 mBTC. YOU CAN SUE ME FOR THE OTHER ONE
kakobrekla: MOTHERFUCK
mircea_popescu: mwahahahaha
mircea_popescu: and so empires are built!
mircea_popescu: in other news, icbit.se paid out.
mircea_popescu: a cool ~300 btc in profits.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : in exchange for your milk i offer you cowsies. http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135561763837.jpg
kakobrekla: alright, outweight the missing 0.074% of the settelment payment
kakobrekla: ;;rate mircea_popescu 3 made good on the deeds.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -10 to 3.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3628 @ 0.00063989 = 2.3215 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wtf 63.9
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12517 @ 0.00063546 = 7.9541 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://www.bitmit.net/en/item/7548-intel-pentium-4-3-00ghz-cpu-processors
mircea_popescu: is this for real ? pentium 4 buy now .3 btc ?
kakobrekla: perhaps for the whole lot
mircea_popescu: what do you mean whole lot ?
kakobrekla: >> I have 9 of them available
mircea_popescu: but i mean... a pentium 4 is worth more than 5 bux no ?!
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: wow srsly ?
kakobrekla: preetymuch ya
mircea_popescu: i guess they woulsdn't be prescotts
kakobrekla: noone wants that
kakobrekla: even c2d are for the low end boxes
kakobrekla: these days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16894 @ 0.00062505 = 10.5596 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4003 @ 0.00062182 = 2.4891 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: lolz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130989.msg1402197#msg1402197
kakobrekla: i didnt see prs comment till now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.0033341 = 7.5017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19643 @ 0.00062573 = 12.2912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8894 @ 0.00062696 = 5.5762 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00063278 = 8.3527 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9663 @ 0.00063428 = 6.129 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: sooo
mircea_popescu: the december judges : http://trilema.com/2012/the-first-roll-of-judges-december-2012/
mircea_popescu: anyone wanting to sue may do so now.
mircea_popescu: and also rota stuff can be followed in its own category http://trilema.com/category/rota/
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ahaha
kakobrekla: get him to transcribe that youtube
kakobrekla: from amir or whats that guy
kakobrekla: to see if it was a fair transcription the first time
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: i never just read forum posts
thestringpuller: these people are really dumb
thestringpuller: the debate between mpoe-pr and inaba (sp?) is really dumb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 993 @ 0.0033341 = 3.3108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00062354 = 6.4225 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.55130, Best ask: 13.55131, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.55130, 24 hour volume: 15218.16247989, 24 hour low: 13.44216, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.54337
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1200 @ 0.0034 = 4.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00063009 = 5.4188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.0006315 = 5.5572 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2450 @ 0.00337621 = 8.2717 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000624 = 1.248 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1797 @ 0.00062354 = 1.1205 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00062282 = 2.8338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5476 @ 0.00062111 = 3.4012 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 570 @ 0.00334008 = 1.9038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062135 = 2.6849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4724 @ 0.00062111 = 2.9341 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3489 @ 0.00062082 = 2.166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00062033 = 4.4974 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2966 @ 0.0006161 = 1.8274 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: look at these niggas sellin there shares
Namjies: What? Would it be going in the other direction than the strings you're pulling?
mircea_popescu: later all.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062268 = 2.6906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169 @ 0.0006226 = 0.1052 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00061958 = 3.0731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3300 @ 0.0034 = 11.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006306 = 2.7248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2474 @ 0.00063083 = 1.5607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3355 @ 0.00063293 = 2.1235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062828 = 2.7148 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00062841 = 4.4485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16835 @ 0.00062841 = 10.5793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6165 @ 0.00062952 = 3.881 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10027 @ 0.00062469 = 6.2638 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062257 = 2.6901 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1802 @ 0.00062222 = 1.1212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062252 = 2.6899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24779 @ 0.00062222 = 15.418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062333 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 629 @ 0.00062364 = 0.3923 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 319 * 0.01302041
gribble: 4.15351079
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12005 @ 0.00061958 = 7.4381 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 745 @ 0.0006194 = 0.4615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.0006194 = 5.3609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4071 @ 0.00061301 = 2.4956 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5748 @ 0.00061301 = 3.5236 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 914 @ 0.00061254 = 0.5599 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9538 @ 0.00061202 = 5.8374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00061667 = 14.4917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.0034 = 5.44 BTC [+]
Ukto: 0,o
Ukto: I hope you reset your passwd after that :P
mircea_popescu: :D
Ukto: finished setting up the stuff for terra
mircea_popescu: was due for a reset anyway, it's been over a year.
Ukto: working on another little something thats like a 10min peice of code
mircea_popescu: o also, : this http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-accounts-spring-scrub-2013/
Ukto: LIES
Ukto: iz not spring 2013 yet
Ukto: go away future boy!
Ukto: :P
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: and also, the MPEx Rota is a go, people can now sue.
mircea_popescu: you need to specify damages. how sick ?
Ukto: hmm
Ukto: vomiting, ER visits... high blood pressure, stress...
Ukto: occasional diarea of the mouth
Ukto: >:P
mircea_popescu: that's like... half a btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3871 @ 0.00061942 = 2.3978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2893 @ 0.00062072 = 1.7957 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00061709 = 2.5609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061291 = 2.6484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5132 @ 0.00061274 = 3.1446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061573 = 2.6606 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00061601 = 5.6365 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7079 @ 0.00062072 = 4.3941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9903 @ 0.00062072 = 6.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9097 @ 0.00062364 = 5.6733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00061659 = 11.1603 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00061274 = 6.3682 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00337085 = 4.7192 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: how is this rota thingy going to enforce anything?
mircea_popescu: voluntarily.
EskimoBob: and the point of the whole thing is?
mircea_popescu: you know, same as bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: doing things the right way.
EskimoBob: no, I do not know. Enlighten me
mircea_popescu: well, the problem with "enforcing" is that it takes effort. X does something stupid and now Y has to drop whatever he's doing, expend time and energy FORCING X to do the right thing ?
mircea_popescu: why bother.
mircea_popescu: you just eliminate X, case closed.
EskimoBob: so what you just said is that rota thingy is pointless
mircea_popescu: nope.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062333 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: not anymore than bitcoin is pointless.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14033 @ 0.00062364 = 8.7515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2796 @ 0.00062381 = 1.7442 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: no, this hyperbole bull shit is not working on me :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062352 = 2.6942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7192 @ 0.00062381 = 4.4864 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you're not very well equipped to think, is the problem. but otherwise, hey.
mircea_popescu: knock yourself out.
EskimoBob: LOL, look who's talking
EskimoBob: you can not even explain your own idea the ... wtf
EskimoBob: you have the problem with thinking :)
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu, more substance, less opinions ;)
Ukto: EskimoBob: you seem up early :P
EskimoBob: or what ever you so pompously stated
EskimoBob: I am :(
Ukto: couldnt sleep? too excited over the asset? :)
EskimoBob: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6869 @ 0.00062348 = 4.2827 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.00062348 = 4.976 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5394 @ 0.00061274 = 3.3051 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00061206 = 0.1377 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061233 = 2.6459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14075 @ 0.00061206 = 8.6147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7354 @ 0.00061202 = 4.5008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061229 = 2.6457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35091 @ 0.00061202 = 21.4764 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061207 = 2.6448 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00061202 = 7.209 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00061425 = 0.9214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3438 @ 0.00061202 = 2.1041 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00061134 = 0.6725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19662 @ 0.00061083 = 12.0101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00061425 = 1.7328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0006144 = 5.7139 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00062041 = 6.6074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1629 @ 0.00062381 = 1.0162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062271 = 9.3407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8289 @ 0.00061962 = 5.136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18576 @ 0.00061083 = 11.3468 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061103 = 2.6403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7979 @ 0.00061083 = 4.8738 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.AWHG] 220 @ 0.06231503 = 13.7093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.ENGG] 230 @ 0.2576593 = 59.2616 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6033 @ 0.00061083 = 3.6851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00061077 = 12.0627 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3617 @ 0.00060993 = 2.2061 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6433 @ 0.00060993 = 3.9237 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9517 @ 0.00060927 = 5.7984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061734 = 2.6675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 429 @ 0.00061762 = 0.265 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061728 = 2.6673 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3465 @ 0.00061762 = 2.1401 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006175 = 2.6682 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2256 @ 0.00061762 = 1.3934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13523 @ 0.00061951 = 8.3776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00337085 = 0.3371 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 315 @ 0.00334008 = 1.0521 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1535 @ 0.0033341 = 5.1178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3727 @ 0.00061951 = 2.3089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2564 @ 0.00062381 = 1.5994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2009 @ 0.00062388 = 1.2534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00062388 = 1.7157 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/r/aww/TZ4Nc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061407 = 2.6534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11279 @ 0.000614 = 6.9253 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: seen it
Diablo-D3: awwed
mircea_popescu: im new.
mircea_popescu: http://www.writersofthefuture.com/time-capsule-predictions how about that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.0006206 = 14.7082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2459 @ 0.0006206 = 1.5261 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6271 @ 0.000614 = 3.8504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8177 @ 0.00061293 = 5.0119 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what else does btc need to win the war on fiat?
mircea_popescu: take over locs.
thestringpuller: don't locs break anonyminity
thestringpuller: well they don't have to wth the PGP Contract
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062353 = 2.6943 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5641 @ 0.00062388 = 3.5193 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4017 @ 0.00062415 = 2.5072 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: line of credit right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061317 = 2.6495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00061293 = 4.0723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061325 = 2.6499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00061293 = 3.0211 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: I will be old, but not dead. Come by to see me, and bring a bottle.
thestringpuller: A lot of these predictions are sorta wrong
thestringpuller: Tesla made better predictions than deez
thestringpuller: nuts
thestringpuller: lets see wha mah niggy orson scott card has to say
mircea_popescu: letters of credit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062396 = 2.6961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3833 @ 0.00062415 = 2.3924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00062479 = 14.995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00062564 = 11.6056 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10806 @ 0.00062635 = 6.7683 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11326 @ 0.00062952 = 7.1299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 814 @ 0.00062981 = 0.5127 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: you want to pay for civil engineering projects with BTC eh?
thestringpuller: that's what most people use letters of credit for
thestringpuller: mpex and silk road I think are the only two businesses with enough BTC volume to even consider large LoC's for projects.
thestringpuller: for large projects*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061315 = 2.6494 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00061293 = 4.1373 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00060927 = 1.5433 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1096 @ 0.00060884 = 0.6673 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: great time to buy
thestringpuller: land and stuff
mircea_popescu: point is more like, chinese factory gets paid in btc
mircea_popescu: instead of everyone spending millions and waiting around for months for the banks to bother moving the locs around
thestringpuller: but we aren't at a point yet where BTC is liquid enough to use for end user payment
thestringpuller: as you stated before: "btc is not a consumer currency"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060907 = 2.6318 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3466 @ 0.00060884 = 2.1102 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this isn't consumer tho. suppose you want to buy 5 container's worth of cutlery.
mircea_popescu: you find your chinese source. what now ?
thestringpuller: I'm speaking from the perspective of the chinese source
thestringpuller: you get an order for a bunch of knives and shit
thestringpuller: and the person who is buying is offering in btc
thestringpuller: how the heck am I supposed to pay my worker?
thestringpuller: workers*
thestringpuller: (because we all know chinese factories are just a 90 year old china man running in a hamster wheel)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14227 @ 0.00061414 = 8.7374 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: the old china man just died waiting for an answer
kakobrekla: 4 generations have lived and died from order time to delivery
thestringpuller: looks like they just never got paid
mircea_popescu: http://www.bankrate.com/financing/banking/banks-vs-cybercriminals/
mircea_popescu: In a scheme traced to a Russian computer and a hacker who calls himself "vorVzakone,"
mircea_popescu: heh, that just means thief in law.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1541 @ 0.0033341 = 5.1378 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1209 @ 0.0033268 = 4.0221 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you just sell them
thestringpuller: then why not just buy them with fiat?
EskimoBob: legal thieve?
thestringpuller: oh look it's EskimoBob
Ukto: thats the most useless news report
Ukto: i have seen
Ukto: man, after all these years.I cant belive someones try to hack banks! WOW
mircea_popescu: lol
Ukto: someones trying*
Ukto: so fucking tired -_-
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller looky. in normal commerce you go to your bank, get a loc, forward it to your supplier, signa contract, get telivery
mircea_popescu: they take the loc to their bank, and cash it
Ukto: i finished writing the code I wanted
mircea_popescu: this takes about a month and costs about half a million dollars.
mircea_popescu: with bitcoin it takes an hour and costs a cent.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12073 @ 0.00061414 = 7.4145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7938 @ 0.00060884 = 4.833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2762 @ 0.00060866 = 1.6811 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: sure but liquidity is an issue for large volumes there is no dark pool exchange that would handle large volumes of that much
thestringpuller: after the horror stories I hear about MTGox, trading back into a form of fiat seems...annoying
thestringpuller: Ukto: write me code
thestringpuller: I'll pay you 2 btc an hour
Ukto: double that, with a mcdonalds gift certificate a day :P
thestringpuller: Can I just pay you in mcdonalds
thestringpuller: and also put me in your will for when you have a mcstroke
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3391 @ 0.0033268 = 11.2812 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 759 @ 0.00332404 = 2.5229 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: I need a raytracer written in the next 3 hours
thestringpuller: if you can do it I"ll pay you 12 btc
mircea_popescu: www.slimeland.com/raytrace/ :D
thestringpuller: wtf a javascript raytracer
thestringpuller: bold
mircea_popescu: ;;buy 200
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;bid 200
gribble: Error: "bid" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: wtf was it
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,buy 200
gribble: Error: "bc,buy" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: what are you trying to do mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: there's a "bid up to X would buy so much and cost so much" command
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061389 = 2.6526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4077 @ 0.00061404 = 2.5034 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;bids 200
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 200.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
mircea_popescu: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 101863.18 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 2321158.05691 USD in total.
EskimoBob: "mcdonalds gift certificate a day" lol, you must hate yourself :)
Ukto: lol
Ukto: was just trying to come up with something wtf'ish to toss in
Ukto: :P
EskimoBob: didn't you have some health problems few days back?
Ukto: I did?
EskimoBob: so you can gracefully refuse the job offered?
Ukto: heart burn mebbe...
EskimoBob: nice :)
Diablo-D3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1403354#msg1403354
Ukto: lol
Ukto: Diablo-D3: saws it :P
thestringpuller: ;;bids 14
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 14.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
thestringpuller: ;;bids 10
gribble: There are currently 88031.165 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 1043490.39366 USD in total.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu whats the hidden agenda here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130989.0
kakobrekla: going after plato now lol?
Ukto: ROFLOL
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla just zinging caldwell a little.
thestringpuller: "As a complete aside: putting a 5mn BTC buywall @ $200 each up in MtGox might actually be the most rational use of a billion dollars currently. You'll end up with 2-3 mn BTC and the price will be permanently in the hundreds. Profit."
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129337.msg1380831#msg1380831
kakobrekla: ;>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061866 = 2.6732 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00061869 = 6.3106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20005 @ 0.0006228 = 12.4591 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: im curious what he says, if anything
EskimoBob: wow, you guys still have petrol in 80'is? I haven't see anything below 92 for years :)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that'd prolly work.
mircea_popescu: hey, the guy just sent the transcript!
kakobrekla: lower is better
EskimoBob: where is 96?
EskimoBob: 85,87,89,91
kakobrekla: is it any good mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9jC0TP-Yug someone peek let me know how long this vid is please
kakobrekla: 2.43
mircea_popescu: ty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061714 = 2.6667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8129 @ 0.00061713 = 5.0166 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062249 = 2.6898 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129566.msg1403069#msg1403069 lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5645 @ 0.0006228 = 3.5157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1984 @ 0.00062688 = 1.2437 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: PM real quick
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062673 = 2.7081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6262 @ 0.00062688 = 3.9255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061714 = 2.6667 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00061713 = 3.4535 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/monty-pextons-how-to-irritate-people/
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^
kakobrekla: hehe
Ukto: doesnt jurov have somethign to do with coinbr?
kakobrekla: so 3 "uhh"s cost 0.5btc?
kakobrekla: :)
Ukto: or is my memory hazzy like usualy
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i paid the kid .65
mircea_popescu: Ukto he runs it
kakobrekla: rich man.
Ukto: then who is rini17 ?
Ukto: same?
mircea_popescu: ya
Ukto: weird. he is apparently quie perturbed.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1403381#msg1403381
Ukto: quite*
thestringpuller: whatever happened to usagi "the great insurer"
thestringpuller: ;;seen usagi
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <usagi> ahh well I guess I can't stick around... stuff to do ^^ good luck
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006267 = 2.708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00062688 = 3.9675 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: i predict S.MPOE will hit 0.0007 by January
Ukto: I predict Santa will skip your house this year. :P
thestringpuller: your prediction is correct
thestringpuller: because my house will be empty this year
Ukto: hehe
thestringpuller: as I snowboard
thestringpuller: OR
thestringpuller: the world ends
thestringpuller: then no one gets christmas
Ukto: :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061723 = 2.6671 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225 @ 0.00061713 = 0.1389 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6354 @ 0.00061229 = 3.8905 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;calc (1.272 - 1.248)
gribble: 0.024
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000615 = 1.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061263 = 2.6472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061259 = 2.647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00061229 = 1.5283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3362 @ 0.00060866 = 2.0463 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: $ ~/code/bitcoin/namecoin/src/namecoind getinfo
Diablo-D3: {
Diablo-D3: "connections" : 50,
Diablo-D3: }
Diablo-D3: SRSLYT?!t
Diablo-D3: wsegdglkaer;klajrflkzf
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how much are trilemma credits?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller a dollar buys like 1000 iirc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00061764 = 1.9764 BTC [+]
jurov: Ukto, wouldn't you be perturbed if deadterra ignored you completely and instead chose some other trolls?
jurov: in the end, maybe i'll have the last laugh and be glad i did not get pulled into the mess
jurov: but ignoring my offer completely? a bit unnerving
mircea_popescu: eh offers get ignored all teh time
jurov: especially that we was like "i don't have time for this, gsdpt will be dissolved"
mircea_popescu: anyone running mpex can check on this bizzare "Couldn't decode the reply from MPEx, perhaps you didn't sign the key?" error ?
mircea_popescu: pympex i mean
jurov: i don't get it (the error, i mean)
mircea_popescu: Azelphur are you on ?
Azelphur: yes
mircea_popescu: mind editing self.mpex_url = 'http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php' to read
mircea_popescu: self.mpex_url = 'http://mpex.co/'
jurov: mircea, if you did not change the addy, you'll get this error
mircea_popescu: i think some clients are failing to redirect properly.
Azelphur: hmm
Azelphur: both of those go to your blog
Azelphur: for me
mircea_popescu: no wai ?!
mircea_popescu: wtf is this!
Azelphur: yo shit is broked
Azelphur: :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061457 = 2.6556 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.0006147 = 0.6891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1108 @ 0.00061481 = 0.6812 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dude it works for everyone except some select ppl.
Azelphur: when did you change the dns
jurov: Azelphur, so you put mpex.co into browser and end up on trilema?
Azelphur: yep
Azelphur: mpex.co redirects me to http://trilema.com/
mircea_popescu: this is insanirty
Azelphur: but only in chromium.
mircea_popescu: http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmpex.co%2F&http=1.1
Azelphur: so I guess it's a cache
mircea_popescu: dude dns servers... they're too broken.
Azelphur: hehe
Azelphur: so yea, it's probably just that people have DNS caches that havn't updated yet
mircea_popescu: must be.
jurov: if it's only chromium, i think is not dns, instead the chromium cached the permanent redirect that was there before
Azelphur: yea
jurov: drop cache, retry
mircea_popescu: there was no mpex.co -> trilema permanent redirect
mircea_popescu: ever.
jurov: no, it went to polimedia.us/bitcoin/ or so
mircea_popescu: nope.
Azelphur: https://github.com/Azelphur/pyMPEx/commit/b3db9ed68ba05e398abb9144e4fbce26f17b683b
Azelphur: :)
mircea_popescu: i just bought it.
mircea_popescu: Azelphur i think it needs the trialing slash
Azelphur: wfm without the trailing slash, didn't have a trailing slash before
jurov: ahh i confused it with mpex.us , sry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4241 @ 0.00332404 = 14.0973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1040 @ 0.0033099 = 3.4423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5650 @ 0.0033085 = 18.693 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.00330569 = 14.8756 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3624 @ 0.00330328 = 11.9711 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00330166 = 13.867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2758 @ 0.00328363 = 9.0563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1300 @ 0.00328102 = 4.2653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00327777 = 13.9305 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2269 @ 0.00326356 = 7.405 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3150 @ 0.00325795 = 10.2625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00325586 = 5.535 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mmm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00325365 = 9.9236 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3850 @ 0.0032516 = 12.5187 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3215 @ 0.00324185 = 10.4225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00323884 = 2.2672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 503 @ 0.00323631 = 1.6279 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Azelphur before it was a file tho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47242 @ 0.00061481 = 29.0449 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1558 @ 0.00061787 = 0.9626 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 299 @ 0.00323631 = 0.9677 BTC [-]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: doesn't matter :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3250 @ 0.0032254 = 10.4826 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7300 @ 0.00318027 = 23.216 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00200001 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00181006 = 1.8101 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00181003 = 1.81 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: aite!
mircea_popescu: wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00181002 = 0.905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180051 = 1.8005 BTC [-]
Azelphur: as I say it works, don't fix what ain't broke (tm) :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180027 = 1.8003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 33651 @ 0.0018 = 60.5718 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's the buy of the century.
kakobrekla: kako y u no place no bids stupid.
mircea_popescu: whoever got the 33k is making like what, 10% this month on divs
mircea_popescu: "Looking at the amount of information I have to wade through, I've decided to (attempt) to appoint a liquidator."
mircea_popescu: guess who ?
Bugpowder: Once again, stink bids FTW. 1) Place bid 2) Wait for panic 3) profit
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061346 = 2.6508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00061331 = 10.0889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1529 @ 0.00061128 = 0.9346 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061786 = 2.6698 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00061787 = 3.2926 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: 0.0018?
mircea_popescu: thanks a lot Azelphur :)
assbot: [MPEX] [X.MGCG] 175 @ 0.12333771 = 21.5841 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: wtf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126560.msg1403453#msg1403453
Azelphur: mircea_popescu welcome :)
Bugpowder: eskimobob Panic due to the successful doublespend attack
mircea_popescu: you think ?
EskimoBob: Bugpowder: I was reading it too but sounds like it got fixed.
mircea_popescu: a little silly seeing how it was fixed already i thought
EskimoBob: I am not so worried about the possible double spend but how easy it is to copy that business and take away the clients by adding few cool features
thestringpuller: how did SDICE drop 300%?
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob so do it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3405 @ 0.00061757 = 2.1028 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: The doublespend is still an issue
Bugpowder: if you need to perm change rules to only allow confirmed bets
Bugpowder: then the volume will go down on the small bets at least
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: gambling is really ugly on low business, I have told this before. I am not going to poke that pile of shit with any stick :)
Bugpowder: martingale betting is less fun if you need to wait for a confirm
EskimoBob: even if I use your hands
Bugpowder: on each loss
thestringpuller: double spend attack was successful?
thestringpuller: wtf is going on?
thestringpuller: what did I miss?
EskimoBob: on* is and
mircea_popescu: you're not going to do anything other than just talk, basically.
mircea_popescu: forum muppets just like you were all about duplicating sd back in august i think.
mircea_popescu: where is it ?
Bugpowder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130764.0
Bugpowder: I wish the asshole who sold would sell into my bi
Bugpowder: bid
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: you go and poke that pile of shit if you like
EskimoBob: not me, I am not going to do shit like that.
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: S.DICE is the same thing as a casino
thestringpuller: which makes tons of money
thestringpuller: why is it a "pile of shit"
EskimoBob: casinos are shit in my book
thestringpuller: not really, they are essentially giant arcades for adults
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.JUN] 70 @ 0.03470276 = 2.4292 BTC
EskimoBob: you are welcome to think like that. I do not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 916 @ 0.00061757 = 0.5657 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: you must be one of those people who think there is mob involvment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10263 @ 0.00061787 = 6.3412 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1507 @ 0.00062202 = 0.9374 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14492 @ 0.00062344 = 9.0349 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: LOL
thestringpuller: ;)
EskimoBob: you are funny
Bugpowder: X.IDFF.JUN @ .0347
thestringpuller: so I'm told
Bugpowder: fuck an a
thestringpuller: S.DICE outperformed S.BVPS
thestringpuller: i wonder what BitVPS financials even look like
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: see pm again, about the other idea you had
mircea_popescu: i guess on the rise, under new management
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 20 @ 0.07995 = 1.599 BTC
Bugpowder: YES
Bugpowder: FUCK YES
thestringpuller: Bugpowder: ?
Bugpowder: sold my .MARs
Bugpowder: 1.6BTC more to by S.DICE
mircea_popescu: lol buncha weirdness in futures atm
mircea_popescu: for instance, mar diff is rated 8mn, june diff is rated 3.5mn ?!
thestringpuller: wow
thestringpuller: that's really ingenious
thestringpuller: indexing network difficulty against a futures contract
mircea_popescu: :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061141 = 2.6419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9271 @ 0.00061128 = 5.6672 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4508 @ 0.00061099 = 2.7543 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I feel like its just one dude who is like, I wonder how this works, lets buy some!
Bugpowder: and sell some!
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062332 = 2.6934 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5058 @ 0.00062344 = 3.1534 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15552 @ 0.00062652 = 9.7436 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
thestringpuller: did you underwrite those contracts Bugpowder ?
thestringpuller: or did you buy from someone else and resell?
mircea_popescu: jurov so what's this secret passthrough killer ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061127 = 2.6413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3629 @ 0.00061099 = 2.2173 BTC [-]
jurov: just some really free (as in, no monthly payments) coinbr account
FabianB_: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.22000, Best ask: 13.29696, Bid-ask spread: 0.07696, Last trade: 13.21005, 24 hour volume: 19323.13716275, 24 hour low: 13.21002, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.47200
jurov: figuring out other ways to screw the users, and whether it's worthwhile at all
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: confucius sayz
mircea_popescu: do not screw the user unless they're really hawt.
thestringpuller: don't screw me
thestringpuller: i'm not hot
thestringpuller: and coinbr is awesome
thestringpuller: :)
jurov: no no, you have "Standard" account
jurov: this plan would be for freeloaders, if they desire it so much, let em have it
Bugpowder: thestringpuller Just to MAR ones... To test the system. I usually can't figure out how the futures or options contracts work before I have some coins in them :-P
mircea_popescu: " I feel like its just one dude who is like, I wonder how this works, lets buy some!" << now we know who :D
mircea_popescu: jurov i did find it a little funny people were like.. PAYING assets to list. competition eh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00062628 = 1.8162 BTC [+]
jurov: hehe, yes. i considered dropping some vitriol like "and now deadterra ecretly hopes to pocket the 10btc"
jurov: but let be that someone else who points out, not me
mircea_popescu: it's really not such a big deal.
jurov: no it's not. i'd went much more beyond some rant on btctalk if it was the case.
EskimoBob: ASIC circus is moving from ass kissing to ass kicking
thestringpuller: asics are vaporware
EskimoBob: really dense and hand rounded vaporware
EskimoBob: or is it glossware? They had pretty pictures :)
thestringpuller: i feel like everyone is underestimating the difficulty of mass producing an IC that's never been printed before
thestringpuller: vastly underestimating
jurov: meh, SHA256 circuit certainly exists
jurov: it's not like thay have to draw all the gates and program all that vhdl
thestringpuller: they probably copy-pasted VHDL and had a copy paste error :P
thestringpuller: (i kid)
EskimoBob: if those show up in March, we can say that that was fast.
thestringpuller: the micro electronics research facilities at technical universities cost hundreds of millions to build
thestringpuller: the dust filtration systems are state of the art
thestringpuller: just because someone can deploy a bitstream to an FPGA doesn't mean they can print a mask, and build an IC from it
thestringpuller: without say 1.5 million dollars
thestringpuller: or something insane like that
EskimoBob: how many coins was sent in preorder boom?
thestringpuller: how many of those coins were spent not on IC fabrication?
EskimoBob: I pulled bigger number out of my ass - 2 million
thestringpuller: "The design is complete. It’s just a matter of waiting for production and delivery. The boards, enclosures, and assembly teams are standing by, anxiously awaiting delivery of our 100% custom BFL ASIC chips so we can begin assembly and start shipping. "
mircea_popescu: is this new ?
thestringpuller: BFL is a joke of a fabrication company.
thestringpuller: any competent electrical engineer would surely pass on a job offer from them
Diablo-D3: oh fuck
Diablo-D3: dude
Diablo-D3: NEW FUCKING RULE
Diablo-D3: NO BFL IN THIS CHANNEL
Diablo-D3: TAKE IT TO THE OFFICIAL BFL THREAD
thestringpuller: XD
EskimoBob: LOL, sure Diablo-D3
Diablo-D3: worked on the forum
EskimoBob: what other topics have you forbidden, oo big Diablo-D3 :)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: not very new but a few days old
thestringpuller: "The design is complete. It’s just a matter of waiting for production and delivery. The boards, enclosures, and assembly teams are standing by, anxiously awaiting delivery of the chips so we can begin assembly and start shipping."
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: keep reading, it get funnier
jurov: already seen that sentence somewhere
Diablo-D3: the bfl thread is sinking in bullshit
mircea_popescu: meanwhile diff is projected to drop like 7%
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu has spoken, buy futures!
mircea_popescu: it;'s not me, its bitcoincharts
mircea_popescu: Difficulty 3370182
mircea_popescu: Estimated 3106928 in 1270 blks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4120 @ 0.00061888 = 2.5498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201 @ 0.00061888 = 0.1244 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23299 @ 0.00061864 = 14.4137 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: people who bought in at .0004 must be selling off
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30003, Best ask: 13.30004, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.30003, 24 hour volume: 19902.69578499, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.46254
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00062628 = 0.8899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1499 @ 0.00062633 = 0.9389 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o back down under 13.5 huh
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: do you like rothbard? http://www.amazon.com/What-Government-Money-Percent-Dollar/dp/0945466447/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1355158265&sr=8-2&keywords=what+has+government+done+to+our+money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4114 @ 0.00062019 = 2.5515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 207 @ 0.00062019 = 0.1284 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11841 @ 0.00062048 = 7.3471 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7352 @ 0.00062173 = 4.571 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062128 = 2.6846 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062114 = 0.6211 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10879 @ 0.00062113 = 6.7573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 321 @ 0.00062113 = 0.1994 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6310 @ 0.00061864 = 3.9036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7726 @ 0.0006152 = 4.753 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 458 @ 0.000611 = 0.2798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061116 = 2.6408 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 542 @ 0.000611 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11663 @ 0.00061099 = 7.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7124 @ 0.00060935 = 4.341 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00060969 = 2.6345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17411 @ 0.00060935 = 10.6094 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00060866 = 2.476 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: You don't like Murray Rothbard?
thestringpuller: awww
thestringpuller: where is vorhees when you need him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3741 @ 0.00062173 = 2.3259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10459 @ 0.00062633 = 6.5508 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who he is.
thestringpuller: you'd love him
thestringpuller: and he'd love you if he was still alive
mircea_popescu: hehe c ool.
thestringpuller: (no homo)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.40000, Best ask: 13.40001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.40000, 24 hour volume: 20990.42923800, 24 hour low: 13.20000, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.44749
thestringpuller: he talks about how the money supply has been poisoned by the state
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 580 @ 0.15006733 = 87.0391 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 72450 @ 0.00339995 = 246.3264 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062616 = 2.7056 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142 @ 0.00062633 = 0.0889 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 393 @ 0.00062652 = 0.2462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 457 @ 0.00062688 = 0.2865 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15987 @ 0.00062756 = 10.0328 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: heh. so it rebounded already ?
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00306352 / 0.0034 (212632 shares, 651.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337216 / 0.0034 (5019919 shares, 16,928.01 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062439 = 2.698 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10929 @ 0.00062422 = 6.8221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 448529 @ 0.0034 = 1524.9986 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0018 / 0.00329178 / 0.0034 (661161 shares, 2,176.40 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00337445 / 0.0034 (5468448 shares, 18,453.01 BTC)
mircea_popescu: wowza. the wall is gone.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062721 = 2.7102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8513 @ 0.00062756 = 5.3424 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6839 @ 0.00062759 = 4.2921 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder lol do you watch the ticker and log into irc when stuff happens ?
Namjies: What's the spring scrub?
EskimoBob: is S.DICE ready to free fall?
Bugpowder: what happened this time?
Bugpowder: Yes generally
Bugpowder: but not this time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062752 = 2.7115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14079 @ 0.00062759 = 8.8358 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the 34 wall is pretty much gone
mircea_popescu: Namjies http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-accounts-spring-scrub-2013/
Bugpowder: ofuck
Bugpowder: what a tard that sold at 18
Bugpowder: ok time to raise my bid
Bugpowder: to .34
mircea_popescu: ya lol was funny earlier.
mircea_popescu: someone got like 30-40k shares.
Namjies: Hmm, who made the windows branch for pympex?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131093.0 lol transcribing is now hot.
mircea_popescu: Namjies ageis ?
Namjies: hmm
EskimoBob: kakobrekla: did kakobrekla wrote the assbot?
kakobrekla: yeah it was kakobrekla.
EskimoBob: kakobrekla: thank kakobrekla :)
kakobrekla: will do.
EskimoBob: I did not notice I had your name on the line from k+"tab"
assbot: [MPEX] [X.EWTI] 306 @ 0.062088 = 18.9989 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: do you have the code publicly available?
kakobrekla: nope
EskimoBob: :(
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 118 @ 0.1898046 = 22.3969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [X.INDQ] 132 @ 0.18822917 = 24.8463 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: greedy is writing a bot for LTC markets. I recommended assbot to him
EskimoBob: why invent the wheel if there is something as mature :) like assbot
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00060866 / 0.00062199 / 0.00063995 (2639341 shares, 1,641.66 BTC), 30day: 0.00048504 / 0.00052868 / 0.00063995 (100948276 shares, 53,369.34 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.20002, Best ask: 13.34900, Bid-ask spread: 0.14898, Last trade: 13.19897, 24 hour volume: 21718.03350525, 24 hour low: 13.19890, 24 hour high: 13.66548, 24 hour vwap: 13.44090
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 13.44090* 0.00062199
gribble: 0.008360105391
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: and on that note, gnight all.