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dub: jesus fuck I spent a lot in getting drunk the other night
Namjies: What the heck is that transcript for?
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> there's a link in the intro giving context/source etc.
dub: amir speaking at a finance conference
dub: ah, bought case of bollinger
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Namjies: Which conference? Why? Who's Amir?
gribble: genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy.
dub: Namjies: Amir is founder of interscamgo
dub: also chief bitcoin fuckwad and oxygen waster
jcpham: i miss antagonizing MNW
mircea_popescu: it boggles to think that at some point bitcoin was so in the shit people like these were either apparently or actually contributing
jcpham: nah i just miss MNW coming on IRC and talking shit
jcpham: oh and betting people bitcoins he doesn't have
jcpham: goat calls me names so he and i aren't associates
Namjies: I feel like Bitcoin are being grossly misrepresented...
jcpham: which is very humorous
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Namjies: How do they chose their panels for conferences? Take the guy shouting: "Me! Take me! I are largest expert Bitcoin!"
noagendamarket: someone should show up and ask questions about the various scams of intersango
Namjies: I could have done a presentation 100 times clearer and informational without even knowing the exact way Bitcoins work within the code. Just the general simplified concept.
Namjies: Anyone else could have done it.
Namjies: Why didn't he have a presentation prepared?
noagendamarket: during the occupy protests the government sent in mental patients to make it look bad
noagendamarket: if i was a banker i would find the most retarded bitcoiners around and put them in front of audiences
smickles: just to let the chan know, S²CM just got its shareholder infos
Namjies: Oh right... Kraken had some units bought by Patrick himself.
Namjies: So when he paid 50% back... I could now not pay him and have some more.
jcpham: smickles is my new boyfriend!
Namjies: and I just got the Kraken list.
jcpham: guys maybe nefario isn't a fuckwit after all
Namjies: He is... looking at all what he did. But he tries to be at least honest even if he made huge mistakes...
kakobrekla: he acts like a chicked with its head chopped off, runs around for a comple of minutes w/o it
jcpham: kutcher should've invested in coinbase
kakobrekla: smickles did you get the data for all shares?
mircea_popescu: <Namjies> How do they chose their panels for conferences? Take the guy shouting: "Me! Take me! I are largest expert Bitcoin!" << pretty much
smickles: kakobrekla: all shares appear to be accounted for (assuming trust for the data ofc)
pigeons: you guys should be nicer to genjix
jurov: yes poor genjix. they woke him up at 3am and forced him to do presentation quickly
pigeons: and then handed him his backpack and kicked him right out
Namjies: It's a conspiracy from the banks, they paid him well to do that on purpose so Bitcoins would look bad! (Made with the support of How to Start Another Movement of Conspiracy Nuts in One Line for Dummies)
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jcpham: shit the banks can pay me and i'll make it look worse
pigeons: he just wasn't used to talking to that type of audience
mircea_popescu: Sep 16 01:13:21 <nefario> I haven't even written my talk for tomorrow
Namjies: Bitcoin Conferencers: Mission Preparation Zero - In theaters January 4th.
jurov: "Whats wrong with this? The guy seems very genuine." reddit rules
noagendamarket: Its more cringeworthy than the time atlas called into the bitcoin show with bruce fagner
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Namjies: Actually, for people who thinks Bitcoins are for nutcases or are nutcases themselves, that guy will seem very genuine indeed.
Namjies: The world is starting to go round again.
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Namjies: Why is it all in yml? Couldn't he send a csv?
Namjies: Now I have to do a search and replace to replace delimiters superflous data to commas.
Namjies: Then make that into a spreadsheet.
mircea_popescu: be happy your yml parses. iirc giga was saying his didn't.
Namjies: I use notepad++ to do the search and replace...
Namjies: then open office to open the list with the comma delimiters.
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Namjies: At worst if there's a bad line, you'll see it when doing the search and replace in notepad++
mod6: just use vim like :% s/x/y/g
mod6: where say, you want to replace colon with comma: s/:/,/g
mod6: thats my vim tip of the day, tyvm
mircea_popescu: the power of bash is like bitcoin : before you learn how to use it you don't understand why you should
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Namjies: Sounds like the usual speech about just EVERYTHING.
Namjies: Religious people use the same speech. You don't understand why my god is so great until you know it and you won't understand how you lived without it before.
Namjies: "My thing is the greatest, you'd understand if you did like me."
Namjies: If I was you, I'd probably think like you indeed since I'd be you.
mod6: (14:50) < mircea_popescu> after you don't understand how you lived before.
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mod6: ^^^ this is correct though. once you learn how to use a terminal or a scripting language or bitcoin, you'll be like "how did i ever do anything before??"
Namjies: Summary: I don't find the statement convincing.
Namjies: mod6: I beg to differ. You can leech of others who could make it for you. Same result, less work.
pigeons: no but you never get what you want when you want it, you get what they made
mircea_popescu: you can either make your own money or marry some rich dude
Namjies: Except it's a different kind of relationship with the marrying example.
mod6: lol Namjies, that was far from the point. some where between A & Z, someone has to actually do some shit.
mod6: and when you find a new too that kicks ass, it makes you stunned that you'd ever gotten by without it.
Namjies: The marrying example, the woman kind of prostitues herself for the guy's money. For coding, the developer kind of prositutes work for money. And not the other way around. The guy hiring the dev is more like the rich guy, not the woman marrying it.
mod6: but to each their own, everyone has got a way. and i'd say further that when leaving the ways of the layman behind, you have to adopt more efficent tools to help you compete in the market place.
Namjies: Pay the other for something they have.
jcpham: noagendamarket in the comments at the bottom he admits to mining bitcoins
mod6: For coding, the developer kind of prositutes work for money. << Is this not true with any service based industry - Time & Services for Capital?
mircea_popescu: Namjies money and sex, in a simplified consideration, are both valuable. there's not a rule that he who has the money is in charge.
mircea_popescu: in the other example, money or sex and skill are each valuable.
mircea_popescu: again, there's not a rule that he who pays is in charge.
Namjies: mircea, no, not necessarily.
Namjies: When you pay someone, the other might be in charge/making decision.
Namjies: I suppose the situation can be interpreted both ways as such.
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla cock is usually hard to swallow, especially if it's one's first time and the thing is as thick as mine.
dub: I need to uniognore inaba to see that :(
dub: aaand it wasnt worth it
kakobrekla: >In fairness, I can't spell your name either, Mr. P can't, your name is just too much to spell.
noagendamarket: When I promote bitcoin I always wear a homeless jacket
mircea_popescu: i wasn't expecting that today's portion of drama would come out of that obscure youtube
noagendamarket: Im just surprised genjix hasnt applied for a bitcoin foundation grant yet
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noagendamarket: I wonder why the cia hasnt setup a hamas donation fund for bitcoins yet
noagendamarket: then they can make a song and dance about bitcoin funding terrorism in the senate
noagendamarket: I mean techinically theres nothing stopping anyone doing that
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dub: why bother when Pirate and Amir are doing the job for them
noagendamarket: may as well finish it off with a right hook to the jaw
dub: I assume the CIA are either content to let us marginalise ourselves for the moment, or using bitcoin themselves on a scale that warrants leaving it alone
dub: someone: you know bitcoin could be used to fund terrorism
noagendamarket: after all he demolished a couple of buildings for them
kakobrekla: coins at 1osama havent been moved in long time
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mircea_popescu: ahahah this entire caldwell whining that the transcriber didn't censor the ums is really hysterical
dub: haha nefario deleted his comment
mircea_popescu: lol maybe he takes it seriously and never mentions bitcoin again.
noagendamarket: I think james will need to change his name by deed poll if he ever want5s to open another business
mircea_popescu: i mean it'd be technically fraud, you can only change your name by poll if you're not doing it to escape debts etc
noagendamarket: unless hes got an a ctual lawsuit hes free to do anything
mircea_popescu: but in the event of an ulterior lawsuit if it turns out he changed his name it may spell additional trouble.
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noagendamarket: why would anyone sue him if he has sent back most of the asset info and btc ?
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noagendamarket: unless they have thousands of dollars to waste for no reason
pigeons: maybe with today/yesterday's lists,certainly not before
Namjies: Not before. With today's, He might be getting close.
Namjies: and claims from before I received lists seems to match.
Namjies: From old users which pre-date GLBSE's closure to top it.
Namjies: Unless they're all conspirating together the lists are probably accurate.
noagendamarket: I dont think hes scamming in the same way patrick harnett is scamming over kraken
pigeons: noagendamarket = stockholm syndrome
Namjies: I don't think so either. Seems like he chickened out and is error prone, but otherwise honest. Still, it's a mess.
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Ukto: what is your plans for things at this point?
Ukto: thought any more on it?
Namjies: Paying people back and closing things, probably.
Namjies: Might still operate BTC-BOND tho.
pigeons: well while difficulty is going up perhaps
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mircea_popescu: pigeons i don't even want to see the wave of mining bond failures if diff went down 80%
Ukto: Namjies: would you consider BF if you decide to keep btc-bond?
Ukto: my glbse replacement
Ukto: mircea_popescu: BF went live a bit ago
Ukto: has 1 asset setting up to sell atm heh
Ukto: not the graetest asset, but its better than starting with 0
Ukto: Namjies: alright. just wanted to toss it out. :)
Namjies: If I had to use a platform, I'd probably use the Belize based LitecoinGlobal/BTCT.co
Ukto: if you get curious you can always play on sandbox.bitfunder.com
noagendamarket: "We (BitFunder) do not accept responsibility for anything.
Ukto: noagendamarket: do you think any of the other agreements are any better?
Ukto: how well that worked out
Namjies: I'm mostly concerned about either having a system with easy proof of ownership or at least regular backups of holders data.
Ukto: Namjies: my system uses btc addresses to publically list holders data live
Namjies: colored coins would be the best option as far as I'm concerned.
Ukto: which makes it easy for ppl to migrate to
Ukto: yeah to colored if they wanted
Ukto: just disable trading on teh asset, and move
noagendamarket: decentralized exchanges are far worse than glbse disasters
Ukto: I wont bust you for leaving
Namjies: ownership deeds on the blockchain tools are not really developed yet tho
noagendamarket: its hard to beat placing a lien on someones actual property if they fail to pay
Namjies: why? Because anyone can do anything on decentralized?
Namjies: I hardly see the difference... anyone could do almost anything on GLBSE.
Namjies: The difference is that decentralized, data is not lost and public yet anonymous as much as the user wishes to be.
Namjies: User still has to investigate anything before purchasing.
noagendamarket: actually it might make people be more careful without seat belts
noagendamarket: btcjam has 50% default rate and they use credit checks....
Namjies: Technically, even a regulated market could be issued on decentralized and have their official app tracking official deeds and for trading.
Diablo-D3: someone needs to tell these guys bfl is most likely a scam
mircea_popescu: for one, they cost money. for the other, pfff. who's btcjam
Namjies: Assuming any government would allow such smoother regulations where they regulate only who can get issued into their official market without regulating trades.
Diablo-D3: noagendamarket: thats... not a good thing
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mircea_popescu: i know. what i'm saying is, you don't just call 911 and get a credit check result.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: they could be paying for it
Diablo-D3: why the fuck are they checking people's _credit_
Diablo-D3: my credit is not exactly 800 points here, doesnt mean Im not a legitimate investor here
Namjies: Well credit ratings include those "stains" on your loaning habits.
Namjies: If the rating is good, not necessarily 800 points, they can attribute more points for credit rating I suppose.
Diablo-D3: Namjies: yes, but wouldnt a lower score make you bitcoin friedly?
Diablo-D3: plus, in the US (in every state but 2), stuff like credit cards are unsecured debt
noagendamarket: credit score doesnt say anything about your ability to repay only that you have not paid before
noagendamarket: it doesnt say you are an inveterate gambler for instance :P
Namjies: Good score says you pay on time and don't overloan. It's a statistical indicator about if the loaner is more or less likely to pay back on time.
Diablo-D3: I mean, look at what banks have been doing
Diablo-D3: they've been intentionally forclosing on people's houses illegally
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Diablo-D3: even when the people have not missed a payment, a few months later a sherif shows up to throw them out
Diablo-D3: which is 100% illegal in at least 4 ways
Diablo-D3: Namjies: barring? fuck, banks dont exist then
Diablo-D3: they retroactively were never invented
Diablo-D3: credit scores are worthless shit now
noagendamarket: if a bank started offering bitcoin loans I wonder what the default rate would be
Namjies: The loaners would default and the employees would defraud... I mean default the bank further
noagendamarket: even payday lenders have better default rates than bitcoin loans lol
Diablo-D3: and Im pretty sure anyone can run one as long as they comply with the FCRA, FACTA, and FCBA
Diablo-D3: and all the appropriate consumer information protection laws
Diablo-D3: (which is fucking easy, believe it or not)
Diablo-D3: like, all those companies that go LOL WE LOST CUSTOMER DETAILS
Diablo-D3: operating systems have everything you'll ever need for this built in
Diablo-D3: hell, hire a child pornographer or a terrorist, they already know how to do this
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noagendamarket: but then some retard puts the encryption password in the sites code lol
Diablo-D3: you encrypt the disk and network io
Diablo-D3: hell, you can buy raid controllers that use random keys
Diablo-D3: even if you steal the drives out of the rack, it does you nothing, no one knows the key
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Diablo-D3: also, did I mention, nefario has sent me an asset list for dmc
mircea_popescu: "Joseph John Aiuppa (pronounced, "I-U-PA") (December 1, 1907 – February 22, 1997), also known as "Doves," "Mourning Doves," "O'Brien," or "Joey Doves," was a Chicago mobster who became a leader of the Chicago Outfit."
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I want to say pigeons is from good fellas
dub: what is the bitcoind synatax to list addresses by account?
Diablo-D3: dub: listtransactions 'name' 99999999999
noagendamarket: the mafia needs to get into bitcoin loans. that might improve the default rate
Diablo-D3: dub: oh, you want every address used by an accont?
dub: pretty sure its listreceivedbyaccount "name" but it doesnt work
Diablo-D3: dub: btw, you CAN do bitcoind help
Diablo-D3: you can do help legitimatecommand too
dub: it shows (incorrect) command syntax only, no help
Diablo-D3: bring it up with sipa and gmaxwell then
Diablo-D3: seriously, is he a card carrying homosexual?
Diablo-D3: how many dmc shares did you own at the end
dub: i did this yesterday
Diablo-D3: also, WHAT THE FUCK FORMATTING IS THIS
da2ce7_d: did you get neafro's account balances?
Diablo-D3: of all the 9000 ways of acceptably doing this
da2ce7_d: nothing a bit of perl cannot solve.
Diablo-D3: pigeons: given any xml format, I can load it in perl
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Diablo-D3: there is at least 3 modules that just load it as hashes
dub: oh, its stupidly getaddressesbyaccount
dub: because you know, having list and get prefixed commands randomly achieve list and create functionality is rad
Diablo-D3: noagendamarket: I dunno, I prefer Amazon for lots of things
noagendamarket: I wonder if nefario added extra commas for people he doesnt like
Namjies: Diablo-D3, copy-paste the superfluous data in search & replace. Replace by comma
Namjies: it will become a nice email,address,amount csv!
Namjies: In Notepad++ you can copy/paste linebreaks/tabs/etc
Diablo-D3: vim has been able to do regex since before you were born
Namjies: Well solve it with vim then
Namjies: Well what's the issue? It's the worst formating ever... and? You solve that in a few seconds...
smickles: Diablo-D3: you got that yaml thing too?
smickles: yaml requires spaces in place of tabs
Diablo-D3: what the fuck is this shit its lol
Namjies: YAML = YAML Ain't Markup Language
smickles: a lot of plugins for bukkit used it for permissions files and such
Namjies: The perfect method to have human readable lists with superflous spaces and stuff!
Namjies: Because humans can't open a csv in an appropriate program for readability...
Diablo-D3: <nefario> super gay powers unite, Ill form the head. No, the other head.
pigeons: humans can't open a csv in a spreadsheet program?
Diablo-D3: well, if this is yaml, perl has a plugin for it
smickles: nefario gave me a bunch of info w/o any privacy requirements attached
Diablo-D3: so I could just post the entire yaml to the intertubes and then nefario gets sued
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smickles: I want to go on record that I would sell this data for 1000000 BTC
Ukto: nefario send out more list?
Ukto: Diablo-D3: yeah, i wrote a custom yaml importor
Ukto: his crap annoyed me
Diablo-D3: Ukto: erm, but it takes three regex
smickles: anyway, the data is potentially out there anyway, i mean, he sent the data w/o encryption
Diablo-D3: or one if you feel like getting clever
Ukto: not the ones I was given to test with
Ukto: i was not writing in vim
Ukto: I made an autoamted system for other ppl to upload the yaml file into my system
Diablo-D3: and in perl, you can just use the yaml module anyhow
Ukto: well, i made the importor based on yaml standards, not know what crap nefario might do
Ukto: and I hadnt seen how simple the file data was at the time yet
Ukto: until after i made it
Diablo-D3: yeah, yaml advertises itself to be fucking simple
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Ukto: i only spent what.. 30 min? to make the importer :P
Ukto: but then the claim management system
Ukto: i spent a few hours on it
Ukto: wanna spend a few more to add some extra niftyness
Diablo-D3: actually, I wonder if perl ships with the yaml module now
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-perl 0.84-1 all YAML Ain't Markup Language
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-syck-perl 1.21-1 amd64 Perl module providing a fast, lightweight YAML loader and dumper
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-tiny-perl 1.51-1 all Perl module for reading and writing YAML files
Diablo-D3: and for some reason, I already have them installed
Diablo-D3: I wonder what Im using that uses it
Ukto: did he post anywhere who all got lists?
Diablo-D3: Im tempted to just say I never got mine just to cause trouble
Diablo-D3: I should pay him back for all the trouble hes caused me
Diablo-D3: I wonder if I should like just show up at his house with everybody and just gangrape him
Diablo-D3: I mean, Im not gay, and most of my investors arent gay, but theres nothing like a hatefuck.
Diablo-D3: okay SOME of my investors arent gay
dub: so this is quote lulzy
dub: nefario posts on reddit in support of Amir using socky
dub: suggestion is made that he get back to fixing his fuckup
dub: a bunch of asset lists get sent
pigeons: didnt he delete his comment?
pigeons: it was "this guy [taaki] doesn't seem bad, he seems real enthusiastic, why don't you like him, he's just nervous"
pigeons: when we mentioned in this channel that dublinclontarf is nefario, he deleted it
dub: it was after the comment directed at him to be fair
pigeons: i still want mircea_popescu to watch the video
pigeons: he had "the girl" transacribe it
kakobrekla: bitdaytrade>>You should be really stopping trashing my name,
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16988 @ 0.00051098 = 8.6805 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20691 @ 0.0005106 = 10.5648 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6511 @ 0.00051157 = 3.3308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 898 @ 0.00052075 = 0.4676 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051021 = 2.2046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00050995 = 6.0067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 186 @ 0.00320667 = 0.5964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1506 @ 0.00320333 = 4.8242 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that first link there is me talking to the worst possible audience : some rural community of ~200 souls in the depths of romania
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051982 = 2.2461 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8255 @ 0.00051999 = 4.2925 BTC [+]
dub: lol at the camera rotation in the first
mircea_popescu: anyway, they're not prepared speeches, either of them.
kakobrekla: at 5:50 second speach i hear some "kilograme"
Namjies: Processing lots of claims and updating spreadsheets.
Namjies: Because manual work is so much better than platform work eh.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, that last speech is basically me advocating bitcoin, of sorts. in 2008 iirc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051019 = 2.2045 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00050995 = 3.7119 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 543 @ 0.00321526 = 1.7459 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005115 = 2.2102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18029 @ 0.00051154 = 9.2226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051027 = 2.2049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3342 @ 0.00050995 = 1.7043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0005092 = 2.6478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3741 @ 0.0005089 = 1.9038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051142 = 2.2098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4921 @ 0.00051154 = 2.5173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20199 @ 0.00051999 = 10.5033 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051983 = 2.2462 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00051999 = 2.3426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 841 @ 0.00052075 = 0.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7201 @ 0.00052075 = 3.7499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00052112 = 4.7422 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5999 @ 0.0005217 = 3.1297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3755 @ 0.00050748 = 1.9056 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 566 @ 0.00050748 = 0.2872 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7334 @ 0.00050725 = 3.7202 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2900 @ 0.00328234 = 9.5188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052145 = 2.2532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3851 @ 0.0005217 = 2.0091 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00052176 = 10.8526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3881 @ 0.00052289 = 2.0293 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5165 @ 0.00052347 = 2.7037 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [09:16:11] <kakobrekla> at 5:50 second speach i hear some "kilograme"
Diablo-D3: [09:16:18] <kakobrekla> is this about cherries?
Diablo-D3: my penis is often weighed in kilograms by british chicks.
[\\\]: only by the bitches that failed mathclass and never heard of using mg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15075 @ 0.00052347 = 7.8913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10340 @ 0.00052372 = 5.4153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3743 @ 0.00052373 = 1.9603 BTC [+]
Namjies: right, (milli)kilograms. That could be shortened to their accurate denomination: grams.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051981 = 2.2461 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00051977 = 16.8146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00051788 = 8.4414 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00051671 = 6.6656 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1429 @ 0.00051278 = 0.7328 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.0005138 = 3.1856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051307 = 2.217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24745 @ 0.00051278 = 12.6887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2575 @ 0.00330307 = 8.5054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 588 @ 0.00333234 = 1.9594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00333813 = 3.3381 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 387 @ 0.0033437 = 1.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00052108 = 10.5519 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2400 @ 0.0033437 = 8.0249 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00052108 = 4.4552 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00051628 = 7.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00051628 = 12.1842 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00051628 = 2.9944 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.00051628 = 2.6821 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00051279 = 10.0507 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1717 @ 0.00051278 = 0.8804 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005148 = 2.2245 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19805 @ 0.00051503 = 10.2002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4916 @ 0.00052231 = 2.5677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1107 @ 0.00328234 = 3.6336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2793 @ 0.00325533 = 9.0921 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051309 = 2.2171 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2988 @ 0.00051279 = 1.5322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31691 @ 0.00051278 = 16.2505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052225 = 2.2566 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12984 @ 0.00052231 = 6.7817 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00052373 = 4.4229 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052361 = 2.2625 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6712 @ 0.00052373 = 3.5153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3167 @ 0.00052474 = 1.6619 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00051741 = 5.8985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051295 = 2.2165 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8379 @ 0.00051278 = 4.2966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052312 = 2.2604 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00052311 = 10.7761 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: [12:17:58] <mircea_popescu> 0! is defined as =1
Diablo-D3: okay, I fail higher math, what is 0!?
gribble: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052207 = 2.2559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16097 @ 0.00052235 = 8.4083 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3382 @ 0.00052408 = 1.7724 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052379 = 2.2633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00052408 = 15.4494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00052408 = 5.267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052231 = 2.2569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1729 @ 0.00052223 = 0.9029 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29871 @ 0.00052408 = 15.6548 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052373 = 2.263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15991 @ 0.00052408 = 8.3806 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2983 @ 0.00052474 = 1.5653 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5156 @ 0.0005253 = 2.7084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8943 @ 0.0005253 = 4.6978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00052624 = 2.9469 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6507 @ 0.00052645 = 3.4256 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00052616 = 6.1561 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.000525 = 0.9188 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255 @ 0.00052645 = 0.6607 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10045 @ 0.00052656 = 5.2893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24153 @ 0.000525 = 12.6803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4005 @ 0.00052656 = 2.1089 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00052656 = 4.3441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00052665 = 3.0282 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00052665 = 3.6076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00052677 = 5.9788 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00052677 = 8.0069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10361 @ 0.00052683 = 5.4585 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9363 @ 0.00052683 = 4.9327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2587 @ 0.0005269 = 1.3631 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32647 @ 0.000525 = 17.1397 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19553 @ 0.00052376 = 10.2411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97 @ 0.00052376 = 0.0508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18603 @ 0.00052263 = 9.7225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.0005269 = 16.6237 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4016 @ 0.0005269 = 2.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18334 @ 0.00052709 = 9.6637 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8097 @ 0.00052709 = 4.2678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052264 = 2.2583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17181 @ 0.00052263 = 8.9793 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052686 = 2.2766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1569 @ 0.00052709 = 0.827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00052718 = 2.1351 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4510 @ 0.00052718 = 2.3776 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3130 @ 0.00052271 = 1.6361 BTC [-]
Namjies: Hmm... I have... an interesting investor in BTC-BOND it seems...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12382 @ 0.00052718 = 6.5275 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3318 @ 0.00052724 = 1.7494 BTC [+]
Namjies: From the founder of a SEC registered trading platform? Assuming the email is accurate.
Namjies: I would have liked a reply through email to verify that.
Namjies: I just have doubts about that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00052479 = 9.2363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2089 @ 0.00052701 = 1.1009 BTC [+]
Namjies: Odd thing is he registered on Bitcointalk.org after I sent the email out. So he knew the full email and btc address. Although there's also the announcement on the forum and if he provided false information, he could then have seen the announcement and registered another account to PM those info to appear to... But why take so much trouble to appear as some other person?
Namjies: Whatever it is, I'm intrigued.
Namjies: It's not that big of a company either, focused on alternative investments and owns a large chunk of BTC-BOND in terms of the average holder but a bit of play money for anyone with larger capital.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1191 @ 0.00052271 = 0.6225 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21609 @ 0.00052263 = 11.2935 BTC [-]
Namjies: It looks credible. If it's fake information, the user went to great extent to hide his true identity.
Namjies: Hmm, I guess the amount of people suitable is not lacking.
Namjies: mircea_popescu: is there a bot puting those 1000 ask/bids on options? Is that MPEx default price for options?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052519 = 2.2693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00052521 = 2.0373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21471 @ 0.00052521 = 11.2768 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15179 @ 0.00052675 = 7.9955 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005233 = 2.2612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14560 @ 0.0005232 = 7.6178 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5769 @ 0.00052263 = 3.0151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052672 = 2.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00052675 = 0.3271 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12158 @ 0.00052701 = 6.4074 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052298 = 2.2598 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12238 @ 0.00052263 = 6.3959 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6491 @ 0.00052218 = 3.3895 BTC [-]
Namjies: looks like its around noon in Europe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052232 = 2.2569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00052218 = 3.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00052122 = 4.3261 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8306 @ 0.00052095 = 4.327 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00052263 = 2.2473 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052095 = 1.5629 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1 count=10 2>/dev/null | base64 -w 0 | rev | cut -b 2- | rev
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7994 @ 0.00052095 = 4.1645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8806 @ 0.0005202 = 4.5809 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052674 = 2.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15779 @ 0.00052701 = 8.3157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052535 = 2.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00052532 = 5.2795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.0005202 = 5.4512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1905 @ 0.0005202 = 0.991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00051984 = 10.8647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3225 @ 0.00051871 = 1.6728 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 725 @ 0.00051871 = 0.3761 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00051835 = 10.5743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 532 @ 0.00051724 = 0.2752 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 934 @ 0.0033361 = 3.1159 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3566 @ 0.00327384 = 11.6745 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15168 @ 0.00051724 = 7.8455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00051701 = 6.9796 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00051669 = 6.4586 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11232 @ 0.00051596 = 5.7953 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 450 @ 0.00051751 = 0.2329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1668 @ 0.00051596 = 0.8606 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13682 @ 0.00051484 = 7.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7134 @ 0.00051484 = 3.6729 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 197 @ 0.0005133 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9624 @ 0.0005133 = 4.94 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20029 @ 0.0005133 = 10.2809 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00051278 = 2.6352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00051164 = 4.4769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1778 @ 0.00050978 = 0.9064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 481 @ 0.00327384 = 1.5747 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1024 @ 0.00325533 = 3.3335 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1404 @ 0.00324728 = 4.5592 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7291 @ 0.00051536 = 3.7575 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.00050978 = 5.0071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00050899 = 1.0943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3970 @ 0.00050861 = 2.0192 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00050841 = 2.449 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00050841 = 5.262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00050725 = 2.2649 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9835 @ 0.00050718 = 4.9881 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14464 @ 0.00051249 = 7.4127 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 627 @ 0.0033435 = 2.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 873 @ 0.0033437 = 2.9191 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 686 @ 0.00051605 = 0.354 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.0005082 = 6.0984 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3161 @ 0.00050718 = 1.6032 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2004 @ 0.00050718 = 1.0164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6096 @ 0.00050708 = 3.0912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.0033437 = 0.1337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00334569 = 5.6877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00051022 = 10.8167 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8815 @ 0.00050708 = 4.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00051751 = 4.5541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00052054 = 2.6027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052701 = 2.3715 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052685 = 2.2765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3478 @ 0.00052701 = 1.8329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13569 @ 0.00052724 = 7.1541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1750 @ 0.00335574 = 5.8725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00050745 = 3.8566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00050718 = 2.1915 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4691 @ 0.00050708 = 2.3787 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052498 = 2.2684 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5703 @ 0.00052473 = 2.9925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00052243 = 1.2277 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1826 @ 0.00052111 = 0.9515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15974 @ 0.00052111 = 8.3242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052069 = 2.1348 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20226 @ 0.0005181 = 10.4791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052194 = 2.2553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26541 @ 0.00052197 = 13.8536 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6938 @ 0.0005271 = 3.657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00051835 = 2.2398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.0005181 = 0.2482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052146 = 2.2532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00052147 = 10.7944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00052384 = 1.3882 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2129 @ 0.00052384 = 1.1153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252 @ 0.0005181 = 0.1306 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00051778 = 12.0643 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052706 = 2.2774 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4890 @ 0.0005271 = 2.5775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37782 @ 0.00052724 = 19.9202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12207 @ 0.00052725 = 6.4361 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00052579 = 0.6835 BTC [-]
mod6: Blue Horseshoe loves Anacott Steel.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052702 = 2.2773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11043 @ 0.00052725 = 5.8224 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10389 @ 0.00052728 = 5.4779 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052709 = 2.2776 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2022 @ 0.00052737 = 1.0663 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3278 @ 0.00052737 = 1.7287 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4122 @ 0.0005275 = 2.1744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.00052579 = 1.5884 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13504 @ 0.00052575 = 7.0997 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00052588 = 1.9458 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052725 = 2.2782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22178 @ 0.0005275 = 11.6989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5501 @ 0.00052775 = 2.9032 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 621 @ 0.00052588 = 0.3266 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10479 @ 0.00052575 = 5.5093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052743 = 2.279 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10753 @ 0.00052775 = 5.6749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4296 @ 0.00052775 = 2.2672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17295 @ 0.00052793 = 9.1305 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9809 @ 0.00052841 = 5.1832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052588 = 2.2723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5217 @ 0.00052575 = 2.7428 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11662 @ 0.00052537 = 6.1269 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052835 = 2.283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16325 @ 0.0005284 = 8.6261 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052557 = 4.6513 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4325 @ 0.00052537 = 2.2722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2091 @ 0.00052841 = 1.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9609 @ 0.00052848 = 5.0782 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10991 @ 0.00052848 = 5.8085 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3509 @ 0.00052848 = 1.8544 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16812 @ 0.00052848 = 8.8848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00052859 = 10.0696 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00052877 = 2.8289 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27488 @ 0.00052903 = 14.542 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005257 = 2.2715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052554 = 2.2709 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5958 @ 0.00052537 = 3.1302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052567 = 2.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4555 @ 0.00052537 = 2.3931 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.00052268 = 3.7063 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4933 @ 0.00051758 = 2.5532 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4417 @ 0.00051758 = 2.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5533 @ 0.00051555 = 2.8525 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe.
jcpham: who had the cufflinks again?
jcpham: i remember those but forgot about them
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20079 @ 0.00052779 = 10.5975 BTC [+]
jcpham: yeah it was a forum thread
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15672 @ 0.00051811 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25107 @ 0.00051651 = 12.968 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00051651 = 6.4564 BTC [-]
smickles: 17:31 < mircea_popescu> ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe. <<< lolwut?
smickles: heh, what caused you to make that statement
smickles: kakobreklaaa: cut a hole in the sleeve of your t-shirt
mircea_popescu: smickles namjies was asking if it's mpoe that puts the 1k bids on options
smickles: ya know, come to think of it, it's not that directly obvious, is is?
kakobreklaaa: mircea_popescu did you get some physical from the guy whos name is unspellable?
smickles: kakobreklaaa: Mike Caldwell is unspellable?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33188 @ 0.00052779 = 17.5163 BTC [+]
jcpham: i'm ADHD so that may not apply
jcpham: basically jengix's conference vidoe
jcpham: the original source coul've been subbed freely
jcpham: oh nevermind it isn't free
mircea_popescu: "PSPs are allowed to hold fiat currency on behalf of third-parties and offer payment services, it's exactly what a bank does, minus the issuing of credit."
mircea_popescu: my cock is exactly like a cunt minus the bleeding thing
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jurov: all bondholders get the part of loss based on their investment, right?
jurov: then, they have no incentive to lower the requested interest
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052881 = 2.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22029 @ 0.00052903 = 11.654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052901 = 2.2859 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6319 @ 0.00052903 = 3.3429 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: their incentive is that if someone asks for less that someone gets paid and they get nothing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1403 @ 0.00335574 = 4.7081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.00334751 = 10.0425 BTC [-]
jurov: while potential reward is depending on requested interest, the risk is not. so it makes sense to maximize potential reward
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052812 = 2.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11929 @ 0.00052793 = 6.2977 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: potential reward is = to the highest interest someone asks, for everybody.
jurov: plus the demand for bonds is consistently higher than supply, this is the catch
mircea_popescu: so the actual self-interest is to ask for 0% and hope someone else asks for 100% or w/e
mircea_popescu: the demand is actually consistently less than the suppluy.
mircea_popescu: november was the first time in like half a year that the demand overstripped supply.\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052812 = 2.282 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13479 @ 0.00052793 = 7.116 BTC [-]
kakobreklaaa: on a side note, i had a surge of new bitcoin forex accounts and 90% of the people never used bitcoin before
jurov: i see it as a gamble, you either receive the interest, or lose exactly the same part as other players
jurov: well it's true it needs more exact research... i'll maybe put it into spreadsheet over historical data what would happen if i had lowest vs. highest bond rate
mircea_popescu: it's pretty simple tho : if you had 0% rate you would always be included, and receive whatever's paid, 4%, 9%, 9.9% etcv
mircea_popescu: if you asked for 9.9% you'd be included in november but not in august, sept oct etc
mircea_popescu: this mathematically converges to the actual true rate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052898 = 2.2857 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00052903 = 3.4371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6132 @ 0.00052922 = 3.2452 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005292 = 2.2867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 979 @ 0.00052922 = 0.5181 BTC [+]
kakobreklaaa: Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions.
jurov: yeah, the more people mix into it, the better
kakobreklaaa: dunno, id rather see bfl keeps its shit for themselfs, with the rest im not bothered
jcpham: is Coin Publishing LLC a MNW umbrella organization?
jcpham: and is Dr. Evil a charter member?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0005281 = 2.2819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19879 @ 0.00052793 = 10.4947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052804 = 2.2817 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00052793 = 3.3413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1075 @ 0.00052793 = 0.5675 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29925 @ 0.0005248 = 15.7046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052504 = 2.2687 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14930 @ 0.0005248 = 7.8353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2149 @ 0.00052193 = 1.1216 BTC [-]
dub: forums getting dawsed again?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00052232 = 5.4844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00052193 = 7.9855 BTC [-]
dub: giga bought into bitcoin magazine?
dub: dude is losing the plot
dub: Coin Publishing LLC is collectively owned by individuals owning or working at BitPay, Butterfly Labs, Google, Casascius, 20 Mission, and Virtual Processing Solutions.
dub: kakobrekla: in that list he is the only dissapointment
dub: as in, he wasn't previously in my assclown list
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052832 = 2.2829 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11779 @ 0.00052843 = 6.2244 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: isn't 20 mission the thing tradehill people (mckenna et co) made with the money they stole off customers ?
kakobrekla: 20:24.15 ( kakobreklaaa ) dunno, id rather see bfl keeps its shit for themselfs, with the rest im not bothered
kakobrekla: 20:24.34 ( kakobreklaaa ) and 20 missions?
kakobrekla: 20:24.39 ( mircea_popescu ) is that vps giga's thing ?
kakobrekla: 20:24.39 ( kakobreklaaa ) isnt that in default or smth
dub: google is clearly the great satan
dub: casascius is a moron apologist
kakobrekla: so they sold a share to a janitor at google
dub: yeah thats a funny inclusion
dub: 'google was involved in this deal'
dub: gigavps: please tell us that your janitor invested not gigacorp
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00052199 = 2.2555 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4349 @ 0.00052193 = 2.2699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23098 @ 0.00052057 = 12.0241 BTC [-]
dub: so anyone know if vlad and the resit of the cryptoanarchy in the UK set are still involved?
dub: in that case it might be for the best
dub: if I see another guy fawkes mask on that shit im going to be evben butthurter
Ukto: anyone hold any shares of Cognative ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9553 @ 0.00052057 = 4.973 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5247 @ 0.00052025 = 2.7298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10853 @ 0.00052025 = 5.6463 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16264 @ 0.00051887 = 8.4389 BTC [-]