tmsr - Log 2012-12-21

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jurov: yeah, i'd be rather be fucking with something else, but that will be, too.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5395 @ 0.00062 = 3.3449 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10490 @ 0.00062 = 6.5038 BTC [+]

jurov: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/46399_233110583489421_1490839577_n.jpg

thestringpuller: its 12 21 in new zealand already so, uh whatever

Bugpowder: ;ticker

Bugpowder: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05998, Last trade: 13.56001, 24 hour volume: 36180.25779632, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.52947

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062 = 4.867 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00062 = 2.852 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 320 @ 0.18066152 = 57.8117 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.57214, Best ask: 13.59090, Bid-ask spread: 0.01876, Last trade: 13.57214, 24 hour volume: 37126.85270592, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.53985

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00062 = 2.232 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.01899, Last trade: 13.59890, 24 hour volume: 37146.18653791, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.54030

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00062 = 1.39 BTC [+]

smickles: thestringpuller: ya know, rather than doing multiple ;;tickers, if all you want is up to date exchange rates, /j #bitcoin-market

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11237 @ 0.00062 = 6.9669 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: im driving

mod6: there is a bitcoin price widget too for android.

mod6: check that out later when your velocity is lower.

mircea_popescu: smickles yes. jurov's representation is muchly exagerated :D

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4976 @ 0.00062 = 3.0851 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14393 @ 0.00062 = 8.9237 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.00062 = 2.6238 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1795 @ 0.00350019 = 6.2828 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1768 @ 0.00350489 = 6.1966 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00357336 = 2.144 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 837 @ 0.0036 = 3.0132 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24539864 = 245.3986 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17780145 = 177.8015 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.12218421 = 122.1842 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17711205 = 177.1121 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24469787 = 244.6979 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5 @ 0.00331001 = 0.0166 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00062 = 3.689 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.00062 = 8.189 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00062 = 4.712 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062 = 2.511 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 370 @ 0.02807186 = 10.3866 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6843 @ 0.00062 = 4.2427 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.48844982 = 488.4498 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41387733 = 413.8773 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: Unfortunately, I have very bad news. I cannot currently proccess your withdrawals. The situation is very complicated and it's all my fault, that's why I feel terrible about it. I tried to make this up, to keep the site afloat and somehow recover the funds, but it's not possible anymore. Right now there are 1786 BTC pending withdrawal, which I can't honor...

mircea_popescu: bitmarket.eu is screwed.

sgnb: mircea_popescu: will it be fixed eventually?

mircea_popescu: i don't think so.

mircea_popescu: and tbh i think keeping money in anything other than mtgox and those frenchypoofs with the eu partnership is at this point cruising for a bruising.

mircea_popescu: the exchange market is going out of the "we can do anything" phase, there's no room left for one man and his hopes operations. which means pretty much all the extant ones will close down, and likely miost of them will close down ugly.

mircea_popescu: spot sellers a la d&t DBordello etc are probably safe for a while yet, but in general it's a closing window.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00062 = 5.053 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00062 = 2.6375 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00062 = 4.3512 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062 = 4.1106 BTC [+]

sgnb: mircea_popescu: you lost BTC because of bitmarket.eu? is there any public announcement of issues on their side?

mircea_popescu: i lost nothing

mircea_popescu: i saw the announcement, not sure if it was published

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/ there it is quoted and adnotated.

mircea_popescu: nm, it was announced i'm told. here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg1413156#msg1413156

sgnb: oh

sgnb: you were quoting

mircea_popescu: ...

mircea_popescu: lmao!

sgnb: yeah, me too

mircea_popescu: what is with this expectation! it's getting ridiculous

sgnb: well, everything in bitcoinland is a scam, isn't it? :-)

mircea_popescu: in fairness, i should probably learn about quotation marks

mircea_popescu: but you know... i was here before pirate. some people preferred bitcoinica to mpoe. those people got screwed. it was a choice tho wasn't it.

Graet: um yeah, i misunderstood too, was looking in forum for your announce mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: well at any rate i'm not going bust over 1700 btc omfg.

markedathome: um... "there are 20161 19980 BTC missing (edit: I subtracted my funds that also were deposited on Bitmarket), and Bitcoinica claims total for around 50K USD"

markedathome: 20161 is crossed out

mircea_popescu: basically, he was trading 20k of OPM on the strenght of 180 of his own

mircea_popescu: this is 100:1

mircea_popescu: and then took that leverage and did a 5:1 on top of it at bitcoinica

mircea_popescu: this is 500:1.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @ 0.00062 = 2.3399 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: i do not know anyone who ever did this before. ever.

markedathome: OPM?

mircea_popescu: and he says he has experience. yet even hedge funds stop shy of 100:!

mircea_popescu: other people's money.

markedathome: oh, other people's money

mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/hosts.html isn't this mildly concerning ?

mircea_popescu: bitcoin had ~60k hosts last sept but is around 18k now

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00062 = 1.8761 BTC [+]

EskimoBob: it's actually getting better, slowly, but still better than July/August

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00062 = 2.2531 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 700 @ 0.05261037 = 36.8273 BTC [-]

jurov: ;;seen rg

gribble: rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <rg> good times

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.08460123 = 84.6012 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00062 = 8.37 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062 = 1.674 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5776 @ 0.00062 = 3.5811 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00062 = 8.99 BTC [+]

markedathome: mircea_popescu: people dropping bitcoin-client for electrum/armory/ webwallets?

mircea_popescu: must be

mircea_popescu: kinda sucky tho.

markedathome: though i am getting annoyed with electrum - what is it with "developers" using glorified text files as a database?

jurov: hehe, good apology: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123492.msg1412053#msg1412053

mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtG3HywuYlE

mircea_popescu: ahaha this is funny

mircea_popescu: "The percentage of working age Americans with a job has been under 59 percent for 39 months in a row."

mircea_popescu: jurov lol miracea ;/

mircea_popescu: for my sins

Ukto: Can be your sister

mircea_popescu: i was perturbed enough a year or so ago when i found out who mircea monroe is

Ukto: shres pretty hot

mircea_popescu: yeah.

jurov: yes. wait when usagi finds out

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062 = 6.169 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: o boy.

Ukto: you should use her imdb pic as your profile pic. REALLY confuse ppl. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1597260/

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/mircea-mircea-monroe/ i think those are better

mircea_popescu: but yea, i'd do her.

mircea_popescu: and we could have babies and name them all mircea mircea

mircea_popescu: the girls could be mircea mircea after their mother

mircea_popescu: and the boys mircea mircea after me

jurov: so you'll change last name to mircea too?

mircea_popescu: what last names. they're going out of fashion.

mircea_popescu: "eNumbered is the choice of Occupy, Anonymous and Silk Road users." << ahaha people are seriously retarded enough to think this is a selling point ?

mircea_popescu: "use the same currency poor people use!!!"

mircea_popescu: 100% backed by gold, 1.25% monthly guaranteed.

mircea_popescu: apparently they've taken egold and added some ponzi to the mix.

markedathome: that sounds vaguely solidcoin2.0ish - does it have account depreciation built in as well?

mircea_popescu: not yet. possibly once they find the solidcoin forums

Ukto: hey guys

Ukto: how bad is usagi?

Ukto: scammer tag wise?

Ukto: I hear ppl make scam accusations, and other sregard him decently

Ukto: he hasasked to list BMF on BF

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00062 = 0.682 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: he owes me 20btc

Ukto: does he have plans to pay back?

thestringpuller: from his "insured fund"

Ukto: which fund

thestringpuller: i wrote it off

thestringpuller: nyan.a

Ukto: i mean

Ukto: he doesnt even have a scammer tag (yet)

Ukto: and wrote he is trying to make good on BMF

Anduck: bmf?

Ukto: yea

thestringpuller: he wants to liquidate

thestringpuller: dont let him list

Ukto: why bother relisting then?

thestringpuller: smickles had a loan defaulted from him

thestringpuller: and so on

thestringpuller: all bad experiences

thestringpuller: no good can come of listing his assets

Ukto: smickles: ?

Anduck: what is bmf, Ukto?

Ukto: some asset usagi has been running

Ukto: i am looking into it now

Anduck: yes but what kind of

Anduck: where the asset invested?

Ukto: as soon as I find the thread ill tell you :P

Anduck: alright

thestringpuller: miing bonds

thestringpuller: smickles is mircea's broker

Anduck: ahh

Anduck: yes

Anduck: is smickles legit?

Ukto: very

Anduck: good.

Anduck: how many of you know him irl?

Ukto: I havent personally seen anything negative re: smickles. only positive++

Ukto: thestringpuller: here is how I am seeing it

Ukto: If he's listng just to liquidate, (he is already offered to pay the listing fee to use the service so meh), but.. even if its liquidation, at least it will help the community get something back

Ukto: rather than all exchanges turning him down

Ukto: and he says fuck it and buys nothing back

Anduck: why did it got messed up?

Anduck: GLBSE or piratE?

Ukto: i have no idea

thestringpuller: dude he should liquidate off exchangr

Ukto: i cant find a detailed thread

thestringpuller: and buy liquidate i mean bankruptcy

thestringpuller: by*

thestringpuller: his asets are no good

thestringpuller: he has too much debt

mircea_popescu: Ukto well, he's nutty and fucked up a set of imaginary assets.

mircea_popescu: you're probably looking at more drama than it's worth.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24595 @ 0.00062 = 15.2489 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: Anduck he had a miningthing (bmf), an insurance thing (cpa) and a braindamaged cdo thing (nyan series)

mircea_popescu: none of these actually ever did what they were supposed to. the bmf thing never had actual mining gear, for isntance.

mircea_popescu: that as to usagi.

mircea_popescu: as to smickles i never met him irl but he's been my broker for a while and upstanding.

Anduck: are _you_ trusted?

Anduck: who are you?

Anduck: what do you do?

mircea_popescu: o.o

Anduck: what makes you trustful?

mircea_popescu: well, i am the mircea popescu of MPEx.

Anduck: i know

mircea_popescu: a ok. so that's what i do.

Anduck: what makes people trust you?

mircea_popescu: mmm. prolly best ask them ?

Anduck: don't you know yourself??

mircea_popescu: ;;getrating mircea_popescu

gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: there's a list.

Anduck: do people know you irl?

mircea_popescu: btc people ? not rly.

Anduck: ok

mircea_popescu: but if you come by timisoara you can buy me a drink.

Anduck: well why do people trust you

Anduck: if i made a exchange and named it "anducks exchange" , would people use i?

mircea_popescu: possibly not at first. it's been going for a while tho.

Graet: lol

Graet: trust is built

Anduck: well

Graet: people act in a trustworthy way and people trust them

thestringpuller: mircea makes me money

mircea_popescu: Graet his q is pretty stumping tho. i mean, why do people trust one!

Anduck: pirate built a nice trust and then boom scammed

thestringpuller: usagi loses me money

thestringpuller: do the math

Anduck: thestringpuller: i guess pirate made you monies too xD

Graet: asking someone why ppl trust them is a rather loaded question

Anduck: well

Anduck: Graet: have you met him irl?

Graet: ask some of the ppl that trust him why they do would makle more sense :)

thestringpuller: pirate lost me money and i had 0 exposure

Anduck: do you even know where he lives?

Anduck: what makes him not to run with your moeny?

mircea_popescu: i think some people met pirate or else someone hired for the job at some point

Graet: no, but i havent met you either, nor most of the 150 odd ppl that trust me and mine on my pool

Anduck: people STILL think pirate will come back and pay-WILL HE?

jcpham: so i'm reading this vladimir vs. magazine thread

Anduck: yeah they met pirate

Graet: 250*

Anduck: they met pirate and so pirate got like 100k more btc from them or something

Graet: so meeting someone proves?

mircea_popescu: Graet arguably tho, much less trust is needed to mine on a pool. at most they lose a few day's hash

Graet: indeed

mircea_popescu: then again, there was that pool-cum-ponzi combo recently

Graet: my point is trust is built, not just given

mircea_popescu: that's for sure.

thestringpuller: Ukto: usagi run assets are bad news but dont take our word for it

Anduck: Graet: well do you have any kind of agreement on anything

mircea_popescu: moreover, if someone knew why people trust them they could hack more trust i guess

Graet: Anduck, agreement with who?

Anduck: i mean.. with mircea_popescu

Graet: no

Anduck: what if mircea_popescu now took all the monies xD

mircea_popescu: agreement to what ?

Anduck: and ran

Anduck: mircea_popescu: tell me what makes you not to run with the money?

Graet: he interviewed me for his magazine ~ 18 months ago

mircea_popescu: nothing makes me.

Graet: apart from that we have cjhatted on irc. i dont see your point

mircea_popescu: hence trust.

mircea_popescu: Graet o right i recall!

Graet: ;)

Anduck: well

Anduck: people trusted _some random guy from internet_ with their life savings (btcst)

Anduck: wasnt it enough a lesson

Anduck: ?

Graet: indeed

Graet: i wasnt one...

Anduck: i am not saying mircea_popescu isnt trustful

Anduck: me neither

mircea_popescu: Anduck people get divorced all the time, is that a lesson not to get married ?

Anduck: duh

Graet: fuck yeah

Anduck: bad example!

Graet: i need a 2nd

Graet: divorce that is

Graet: :P

mircea_popescu: lol ok

mircea_popescu: ok, i got a better one maybe. cars crash all the time, is that a lesson not to drive ?

Anduck: lol

Anduck: but you drive the car yourself

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608.msg1413383#msg1413383 is roger ver milking the forum for lulz by now ?

mircea_popescu: Anduck for some values of "yourself".

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00062 = 8.401 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:

thestringpuller: i made a script to tell me how much mobey youve made based on the shares left

thestringpuller: 1800 btc richer ;)

thestringpuller: err 6200*

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker (10000000-6702311)* 0.00062

gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)

mircea_popescu: ;;calc (10000000-6702311)* 0.00062

gribble: 2044.56718

mircea_popescu: bout 2k

mircea_popescu: incidentally, maybe this is a good answer for anduck

mircea_popescu: i'm currently worth some 10s of k's in cash and some 100s of k's in stock

mircea_popescu: it makes no sense to run off.

thestringpuller: you are retired

thestringpuller: where would you run too?

thestringpuller: to*

Anduck: sell all shit n run like ni...ni...nig....RUNN!!

mircea_popescu: i was, but i came back out of it.

mircea_popescu: nobody can stay retired for long before they're 60 or so i don't think

thestringpuller: wise words

jcpham: i'm sortof getting bored with all of this

mircea_popescu: all of it ?

mircea_popescu: here, feel better http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135610253771.gif

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.00062 = 5.523 BTC [+]

jurov: coinbr.com now working...outside bitvps

jurov: live.coinbr.com not yet

jurov: whole thing is such a farce...james did not pay for internet conenciton to switzerland datacenter

jurov: he is noit reachable now and new owners supposedly can't do anything about that

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30710 @ 0.00062 = 19.0402 BTC [+]

jcpham: i payed it last month btw

jcpham: switzerland

pigeons: will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS?

jcpham: if I hadn't rebooted my PC in the last month

jcpham: I'd have the swiss login

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00062 = 3.875 BTC [+]

Ukto: As of this point, I am waiting for Usagi's ticket reply

Ukto: on what his plans are for sure

mircea_popescu: uh

mircea_popescu: pigeons quite possibly. giving them a little time to come up with proper reports and everything

mircea_popescu: my understanding is rg's records were messy.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00062 = 10.168 BTC [+]

jcpham: i've paid the swiss bill 3 times now

jcpham: if that tells you anything

jcpham: 2x i had to find out from rg that the bill was due

jcpham: and that's why my vps was offline

jurov: and new owners knew nary of that?

jcpham: sorry i'll stfu

jcpham: shrug

jcpham: i've already grpp'd my logs and i don't have th login info anymore to pay it again

jcpham: i had it in a pm but it is gone now

JWU_42: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75867.msg1413513#msg1413513

JWU_42: apologies it got to this for those who invested

jcpham: ty

JWU_42: jcpham: appreciate your patience with this...

jcpham: i'm fine

jcpham: tbh if you never pay i won't complain

jurov: jcpham, okay but you're the owner? or why does namjies &co act surprised over this?

jcpham: sorry jurov i know nothing

jcpham: i own nothing

jcpham: my swiss vps has been offline 3x now and i've payed the bill to get it backonline

jcpham: rg gave me bitcoins

jcpham: for my services

jcpham: and by "payed the bill" I payed the swiss datacenter to get everyone's vps's back running

jcpham: rg seemed to forget about switzerland

JWU_42: jcpham: I might need to take you up on that depending how this goes ;)

jcpham: we're talking maybe 10btc total

JWU_42: that is NOT the plan, however

jcpham: which i want but it isn't going to help or hurt me

JWU_42: jcpham: yeah

Ukto: [09:43] <pigeons> will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS? <-- I musta missed something, did RG sell?

JWU_42: the most vocal people are folks with <100 shares

jcpham: silliness JWU42

jcpham: _

jcpham: at one point in time at close 1000 shares

jcpham: but i sold them

JWU_42: I understand their frustration - I lost out on several GLBSE assets as well - but like you - for a dozen or so BTC - not worth the emotional energy to spaz over it

JWU_42: but everyone has their right to be pissed

jcpham: people need their drugs off sr

jcpham: baaaad

JWU_42: heh

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062 = 3.596 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: jcpham maybe you should get in touch with ajit/namjies ?

jurov: we're all so in touch

jurov: already

pigeons: rg not meticulous with paperwork? no way

thestringpuller: bitcoin d is cool as shit

thestringpuller: jurov

thestringpuller: i herd you have a coinbr api :P

mircea_popescu: pigeons ikr, fud

jurov: thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6662 @ 0.00062 = 4.1304 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: soo, Anduck and co made it in a new post.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/

mircea_popescu: it's long but i really want to hear what the wise think.

mircea_popescu: <jurov> thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it <<< haha good policy.

Anduck: mircea_popescu?

Anduck: yay

Anduck: man i made it in the post

mircea_popescu: :p

Anduck: damn irc logs can be pasted anywhere!!

Anduck: u included my jokes in it! goddamnyou"

Anduck: well its ok

Anduck: monies and the nignigrun

Anduck: hmmm..

mircea_popescu: lol

Anduck: btw mircea_popescu: what makes mpex superior to other exchanges??

mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/faq.html#14

Anduck: ok

Anduck: =)

EskimoBob: lol

jurov: Double Cherry Truck insignia?

jurov: every time i reread the faq, a new surprise

thestringpuller: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 31 minutes and 26 seconds

mircea_popescu: jurov :D

thestringpuller: cause no one expects the spanish inquisition

mircea_popescu: JWU42 what's the total yabmc story ? about 20k or so ?

Anduck: mircea_popescu: wtf is that crap doing in the FAQ page

Anduck: "awards" and other stuff that makes "REAL WORLD PEOPLE" think it as a joke

Anduck: one running a system like that should not treat is as a joke in any way

mircea_popescu: i guess it makes real world people think of it as a joke.

mircea_popescu: because why ?

Anduck: tell me

Anduck: i mean - it just seems to me like some kid made a site .......

Anduck: well if you want people to use your service

Anduck: it's not the best way to also make people interested in BTC

Anduck: when all the services are semi-jokes

mircea_popescu: i guess is the advantage of the rich - they see more humour in life ?

Anduck: well , might be

mircea_popescu: what;s the problem with a little fun ?

Anduck: some may think it's too much fun

mircea_popescu: here's the difference : this service is doing things right and has a little humour. the others are mostly humourless hacks doing things wrong.

mircea_popescu: trying too hard is a failure mode.

Anduck: mmmhh

jurov: actually most other sites look like they are made by kids

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00062 = 4.278 BTC [+]

EskimoBob: Anduck: if someone (mircea_popescu) writes about himself in third person, you know something is off. Especially, if they plaster their own name on every silly thing they think they "invented".

EskimoBob: lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00358628 = 0.6419 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: who are the 5 other businesses

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00062 = 8.835 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller hard to say. mtgox and sdice are there for sure.

mircea_popescu: possibly the one asic maker that actually delivers is there too

mircea_popescu: we just don't know yet.

Ukto: ROFLOL

mircea_popescu: maybe one or two miners

Ukto: LTC-Global created security BMF

mircea_popescu: sr, possibly.

Ukto: oh well

Ukto: dont care

EskimoBob: LOL

mircea_popescu: which one is bmf again ? usagi ?

Ukto: I guess that was Usagi's response to "What are your plans for BMF?"

Ukto: He opened a ticket on BF wanting to list BMF

Ukto: mircea_popescu: yes

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: code trading

thestringpuller: thats the next big business

thestringpuller: and review

thestringpuller: like you said

jurov: meh. i'll believe it once someone licenses coinbr code at fair price

mircea_popescu: i sent rowit.co.uk folks a mail see if they're up for it

Ukto: ROFLOL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88008.msg1413640#msg1413640

Ukto: someones getting jealous :P

Ukto: unless crypto posted something that I somehow missed, and he doesnt want to link

thestringpuller: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 6 minutes and 1 second

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.54311, Best ask: 13.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00688, Last trade: 13.54311, 24 hour volume: 28976.00583363, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.55264

smickles: what? i see c11, c12, c13 and they skipped c14 (where my orders are) and went to c15!

smickles: lolercakes

smickles: < Ukto> smickles: ? << what's up?

smickles: < Anduck> how many of you know him irl? << probably none, you anywhere near tucson AZ?

thestringpuller: smickles

Anduck: im in fin

thestringpuller: i havr order for you lok

thestringpuller: lol

mircea_popescu: smickles i think those were sells, by the price

mircea_popescu: were you buying ?

Ukto: smickles: Usagi had opened a ticket on BF asking to list BMF. I replied asking what his intentions were with the asset. He seems to have a pretty questionable history.

Ukto: I got an email from btct.co a few min ago saying that BMF had been listed.

smickles: mircea_popescu: oh, I guess that would've missed me anyway then :P

Ukto: So I guess he didnt wanna answer my question. :P

smickles: yeah, don't question usagi if you want him to pretend to do something

mircea_popescu: lol

Ukto: I dont midn shrugging the scamish assets onto the others

Ukto: It's really more of a positive thing I think

Ukto: :P

smickles: anyway, i think my WoT rating of him puts my position clearly, he defaulted, an made good after default, but that's no reason for me to trust him now.

Ukto: at least he made good so *shrug*

Ukto: defaulting seems to have happened more than once for him in the past.

PsychoticBoy: I want to get rid of 115 gigamining shares since I am not going to send my personal information to a kid behind his computer calling himself a lawyer, someone wants to take them

mircea_popescu: iirc you can't do that.

smickles: i bet you can with psy's life rights or something

smickles: power of attorney in this matter

smickles: is romainia like a weekend trip's distance from finland?

Anduck: yeah

Anduck: whatcha need?

Anduck: 1k btc aaand i'll do it

Anduck: (includes tickets to there and back + a simple job with no harm to anyone)

mircea_popescu: i think it's like 10-12 hours on train

mircea_popescu: europe has excellent trains

Anduck: its more i guess

Anduck: well yeah

mircea_popescu: being high density unlike the us

EskimoBob: Ukto: is BMF getting re-listed? Oh nooo.... :) I hope usagi has learned something from his previous fuck ups

mircea_popescu: ;;google distance timisoara Espoo

gribble: Booking.com: Hotel Continental, Timişoara, Romania - 185 Guest ...: <http://www.booking.com/hotel/ro/continental-timisoara.en.html>; Jari Saarinen - AS-laitos - Aalto-yliopisto: <http://autsys.aalto.fi/JariSaarinen>; IEEE Xplore - Intelligent Computer Communication and Processing ...: <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/mostRecentIssue.jsp?punumber=5278388>

mircea_popescu: pff

Ukto: https://btct.co/security/BMF

PsychoticBoy: wow usagi returns?

smickles: Anduck: well, yeah, i was going to suggest you find out if mircea_popescu actually has a sex dungeon, but I wasn't going to pay hardly any btc to help out the venture.

Ukto: read the asset details

Ukto: its funny

Ukto: :P

Ukto: you will get some laughs

EskimoBob: you understand that you have to go to Russia or take 2 boats, if you want to use a train for that

mircea_popescu: 2.2k km

mircea_popescu: you just ferry across to like estonia

PsychoticBoy: omg the saga continues

EskimoBob: lol, sure

mircea_popescu: smickles : send the missus, i send back pics ?

smickles: sounds like a plan

smickles: :P

EskimoBob: PsychoticBoy: sounds like it. Round #2, lots of miscalculated NAV's and other BS :)

mircea_popescu: something like http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135186901024.jpg

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5366 @ 0.00062 = 3.3269 BTC [+]

smickles: mircea_popescu: hmm, i see several better sticks available

mircea_popescu: before or after ?

PsychoticBoy: Explain how your products and services are competitive.

PsychoticBoy: --- Nobody could compete with us when I listed on the GLBSE, We blew MU, SS,

PsychoticBoy: MINING and other funds out of the water. We were about 5 times bigger than every

PsychoticBoy: other fund on GLBSE put together (from what I've seen of people's balance

PsychoticBoy: statements). For some reason or other, people liked how I ran things.

PsychoticBoy: lollol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+]

PsychoticBoy: my FDBF was far more better

EskimoBob: lol "(Have to admit, I wasn't expecting this, and I lost the original BMF contract

EskimoBob: when GLBSE went down. I'll propose this, and I'd like to make any changes you

EskimoBob: suggest)"

mircea_popescu: lol wait, usagi was ever big ?

mircea_popescu: iirc never over 1-2k btc, was he ?

EskimoBob: I guess this is what you get, when you delete your own posts

PsychoticBoy: big jerk

mircea_popescu: dmc was 5x that when it started ffs.

EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: total was about 8K BTC

mircea_popescu: total cpa + nyan + bmf

smickles: lol, SS stayed small intentionally

mircea_popescu: lol he blew ss ?

mircea_popescu: should i snap out the visual aids for that "blew" ?

smickles: Usagi himself even claimed he wanted to place 10000 btc with us

smickles: mircea_popescu: use that pic of me with a smirk holding the camera, it's like i'm holding his poney-tails

mircea_popescu: well, usagi is a valuable dramadition to any exchange that'll have him.

smickles: http://photobook.bitvps.com/index.php/

mircea_popescu: ahahaah remember the good old days

mircea_popescu: but no, i was thinking more blew in the sense of http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135601348721.gif

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00062 = 3.007 BTC [+]

smickles: mircea_popescu: Why doesn't MPEx display open interest on options like MPOE used to?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 821 @ 0.00358628 = 2.9443 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 369 @ 0.00355917 = 1.3133 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 410 @ 0.00349819 = 1.4343 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: boom the short is closed

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12621 @ 0.00062 = 7.825 BTC [+]

smickles: breaking news, s.mpoe is worth as much as we want to trust mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: smickles lol yeah

mircea_popescu: re the open interest... already so many numbers in there ;/

mircea_popescu: re blog comment : for every 500 btc i make smpoe must appreciate by 5k ? is this sustainable ?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0036 = 5.4 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11475 @ 0.00062 = 7.1145 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell namjies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.0

gribble: The operation succeeded.

EskimoBob: so they are on a verge of going out of business?

gigavps: who?

EskimoBob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.0

EskimoBob: sounds really bad

gigavps: huh

gigavps: did someone steal EskimoBob's handle

mircea_popescu: EskimoBob tis unclear. new team trying to turn things around

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+]

EskimoBob: I hope they do and good luck with that.

gigavps: ;;bc,stats

gigavps: whoa

mircea_popescu: jurov live.coinbr.com is down ?

mircea_popescu: gigavps yes, diff has been dropping steadily.

EskimoBob: BTW, 5519 shares left and div date is 22 so get in and enjoy

EskimoBob: something that crawls up at 4-7% per week has to drop sooner or later

gigavps: EskimoBob i thought you only bought turds, i didn't know you were selling them

EskimoBob: and after halving...

mircea_popescu: lol

JWU_42: heh

EskimoBob: i do not do mining gigavps so thy can not be turds

EskimoBob: turd business is all yours, gigavps

mircea_popescu: i guess everyone was hoping for price spike, that didn'ty happen so miners are going offline

EskimoBob: :)

mircea_popescu: worst scenario for btc, but hey. it's what it is.

gigavps: asic will arrive soon enough

mircea_popescu: also means miner market is pretty much saturated/no more dollars pouring in

JWU_42: ^ +1

mircea_popescu: which means asic companies have all the money they will everget, period.

EskimoBob: and imaginary ASICS have not materialized so what else is there to expect

mircea_popescu: if they fail to make asics in these runs, there's no asics in 2013 at all.

mircea_popescu: and i suspect this is the more likely outcome.

JWU_42: no asic in 2013 = butthurt for me

EskimoBob: 2013 Feb. is the most optimistic

EskimoBob: so it's more like May if history repeats... and it usually does

gigavps: lol

mircea_popescu: EskimoBob may is impossible. either jan, feb or march in degrading order of likeliness

mircea_popescu: or else next year.

gigavps: EskimoBob does have a point there

mircea_popescu: all this due to capital constraints

JWU_42: well - October/November = Feb/March for BFL

JWU_42: this was proven before

JWU_42: ;)

gigavps: has bASIC stopped communicating all together?

JWU_42: bASIC is Thom?

gigavps: saw a couple posts of disgrunted people in the forums

gigavps: yep

kakobrekla: money flow cumulative is at all time high

gigavps: i do find it interesting that he was only active when he wanted everyone's money

JWU_42: and saw they are rebuying (or he) fpga stuff at $.20 on the dollar

kakobrekla: buyers still buying

JWU_42: maybe my numbers are a tad off

gigavps: kakobrekla where did you get that stat?

mircea_popescu: tbh i think we are headed for a recession.

kakobrekla: hold on

kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/36/Ao/4Zj9Ykv7/mfchigh.png

kakobrekla: there ya go gigavps

gigavps: blue == buy?

kakobrekla: red is price

kakobrekla: blue is money flow

gigavps: wow

gigavps: it's higher than at the $29 peak

kakobrekla: i told you it is all time high

gigavps: holy fuckballs

JWU_42: this from Gox?

gigavps: so the moneyflow scale is on the right?

kakobrekla: yes gox

JWU_42: might color the axis red and blue

gigavps: left

JWU_42: make it easier to discern

kakobrekla: left is money flow right is price

gigavps: kk

kakobrekla: btw

kakobrekla: money flow oscilator owns with bitcoin

kakobrekla: ;)

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla im not sure i trust that data.

kakobrekla: k

JWU_42: interefsting that price hasn't moved much despite the moneyflow

JWU_42: last time you had this moneyflow price went up about 4x

kakobrekla: its pooling data with sierra chart plugin

kakobrekla: so data is fine

mircea_popescu: for one, outflow far exceeds total inflow at most points.

mircea_popescu: this is a logical impossibility

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00062 = 0.93 BTC [+]

JWU_42: makes sense

JWU_42: taking BTC to USD

JWU_42: or some other currency

kakobrekla: volume made on uptick is bull on downtick is bear

mircea_popescu: outflow is outflow

JWU_42: maybe i am not "getting" the graph

mircea_popescu: you can't have more outflow than the total inflow to date.

thestringpuller: sell X.IDIFF.MAR

kakobrekla: only btc usd on gox

kakobrekla: not all btc traded every everywhere

mircea_popescu: even so.

JWU_42: mircea_popescu: I see your point...

mircea_popescu: it would propose most outflow goes through gox but not most inflow, which is nonsense

mircea_popescu: it's the other way around if anything

mircea_popescu: gox is used miostly for inflow, people take money out privately.

kakobrekla: is about the direction of trade

mircea_popescu: yes.

JWU_42: I would think the opposite - most epople sell via mtgox as price is highest (generally)

JWU_42: and buy elsewhere where prices are lower

mircea_popescu: nah cause people don't want the kyc

thestringpuller: ni

thestringpuller: no

thestringpuller: inflow yo

mircea_popescu: the buyers are many and small timers, the sellers are few and sell large chunks

mircea_popescu: not the other way around

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: btc recession?

JWU_42: Then I break the rules

kakobrekla: the chart is fine

kakobrekla: perhaps we should call it cumulative delta

kakobrekla: http://www.trade2win.com/articles/1670-trading-cumulative-delta-indicator

mircea_popescu: JWU42 obviously not actual rules, just tendencies

JWU_42: heh

JWU_42: I know

JWU_42: rules isn't the best word choice

mircea_popescu: o, well if its +delta then sure.

mircea_popescu: orders rather than actual trades

mircea_popescu: that's a sentiment guesser not a historical descriptor.

kakobrekla: its trades

kakobrekla: its actual trades that happend with market orders

kakobrekla: no limit order data

mircea_popescu: mmm

mircea_popescu: how do you even distinguish market from limit orders on mtgox, do they mark them in some api output ?

kakobrekla: if one buys at market its obvious that on the other side there is a lmit order to be filled

mircea_popescu: a trade can be eitgher limit crossing limit or market crossing limit

mircea_popescu: i thought you said above this data is market orders only ?

mircea_popescu: in other news, btcjam lol. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1413923#msg1413923

kakobrekla: with mtgox you cant place a bid limit over ask

mircea_popescu: o srsly ?

kakobrekla: ya

mircea_popescu: i guess it shows i never use it lol

kakobrekla: its more useful for btc than anything else

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00062 = 8.1226 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00062 = 5.4858 BTC [+]

JWU_42: that btcjam is BAD

JWU_42: ugh

kakobrekla: urlpls

JWU_42: the one MP posted just above

JWU_42: 77% repayment

JWU_42: or 23% scam

JWU_42: BAD BAD BAD

JWU_42: well - maybe not scam

JWU_42: but not something that gets me excited to lend

mircea_popescu: its laughable

mircea_popescu: works out to like -99% API ? lol

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850000 @ 0.00062 = 1767 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/#comment-91079

mircea_popescu: lmao this is today's top comedy

assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 420 @ 0.11564518 = 48.571 BTC [-]

Anduck: damn you mp

Anduck: + they talk horribad english

Anduck: !!

mircea_popescu: "or you can cover your debts with a loan from yourself by this EU third party whom mystifies stuff, which is state business again.. and any government is fraudulent."

mircea_popescu: !!!

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6483 @ 0.00062 = 4.0195 BTC [+]

Anduck: mircea_popescu: the first comment. i understood nothing

mircea_popescu: join the clubn

Anduck: except the final part, that one i got

smickles: jurov: live.coinbr.com down?

thestringpuller: yea. bitvps

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062 = 4.185 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9098 @ 0.00062 = 5.6408 BTC [+]

smickles: thestringpuller: I'm chatting here via a bitvps server :o

Namjies: Not all servers are alright.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062 = 4.464 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: This doesn't mean that it's doom and gloom. (though we've had plenty of that already). What it means is that I won't have time to maintain the miners, keep things running, or run the sites/infrastructure.

mircea_popescu: So this means either:

mircea_popescu: A) BTCSYN will be shut down, and we'll figure out a sane way to do that (liquidate and pay out to shareholders using this list)

mircea_popescu: B) Someone else will need to pick up the torch and continue operation (At the vote of shareholders).

mircea_popescu: C) Some other alternative I haven't thought of yet.

mircea_popescu: IF we decide to liquidate (ie no other alternative is presented) be aware that the debt to enterpoint is larger than our current liquid assets, and the liquidatable value of those other 4 boards isn't very high with ASICs around the corner. Ideally another alternative will be possible. We'll see in the newyear.

Namjies: Good grief...

mircea_popescu: i forgot the quotes again

mircea_popescu: IT IS NOT ME GOING OUT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE

mircea_popescu: I AM QUOTING.

mircea_popescu: ty.

Namjies: I usually understand that by the immediately following statement mentionning that X business is going down.

mircea_popescu: ya well i nearly created a panic yest

EskimoBob: BTCSYN?

Namjies: or the failure statement including things that you're not even in business in.

mircea_popescu: i don't remember who it was i was quoting, but a few people were spooked.

mircea_popescu: o, the bitcoin-market.eu it was.

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47429, Best ask: 13.56797, Bid-ask spread: 0.09368, Last trade: 13.47425, 24 hour volume: 29638.17165934, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.54771

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062 = 2.4713 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: !ticker s.mpoe

assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062 / 0.00062 / 0.00062 (3767064 shares, 2,335.58 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00054214 / 0.00063995 (104595129 shares, 56,705.52 BTC)

Namjies: There wasn't much in that quote other than money was lost and the business was attempted to be kept afloat to recoup loss through fees or something like that.

mircea_popescu: ;;calc (0.00062/0.00054214) ** 12

gribble: 5.00452492634

Namjies: For once that could potentially have been applied to MPEx

mircea_popescu: 500%. ftw.

mircea_popescu: Namjies ya, i wasn't too careful.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: what if a transaction never gets put into a block?

FabianB_: thestringpuller: make a new transaction with a fee

thestringpuller: but when will the original transaction die?

thestringpuller: when it is at 0% network prop?

Namjies: a transaction with an higher fee has priority over the same output with a lesser fee, I believe.

FabianB_: depends on the miner (or pool), different pools implement it differently i think

mircea_popescu: a broadcast transaction pretty much never dies if i understand this correctly

mircea_popescu: unless some of its input is spent

kakobrekla: ummm

kakobrekla: afaik its discarded after a while

kakobrekla: if it doesnt get confirmed

kakobrekla: one would need to resend

kakobrekla: seems to be right thing to do

kakobrekla: or else we could build infinitive queue

kakobrekla: Namjies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.msg1414201;topicseen#msg1414201

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062 = 11.687 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 38 seconds

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00062 = 3.6822 BTC [+]

Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: how many dmc shares do you even have?

Diablo-D3: if its not a large fraction of the missing 300 some shares, why bother me over it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 96 @ 0.00349819 = 0.3358 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00348464 = 5.9239 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00346752 = 7.8019 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00346504 = 5.1976 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00345578 = 8.6395 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00344559 = 3.6179 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5587 @ 0.00343861 = 19.2115 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.00342636 = 16.1039 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00339841 = 2.039 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1041 @ 0.00337007 = 3.5082 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7495 @ 0.00190012 = 14.2414 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 208020 @ 0.00190011 = 395.2609 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: o.o

mircea_popescu: no fucking way.

Namjies: FUCK

Namjies: I should have had a bid in!

Namjies: Why didn't I have more BTC available for this!

mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice

Namjies: I wanted to have bids in...

assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00161337 / 0.0036 (1753279 shares, 2,828.70 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00308387 / 0.0037 (9053859 shares, 27,921.00 BTC)

mircea_popescu: breathtaking. -50% 1day avg

kakobrekla: i took the bid out.

kakobrekla: ;>

kakobrekla: i win!

thestringpuller: haha

mircea_popescu: lol?

Namjies: Which one?

thestringpuller: who offloaded

thestringpuller: and why?

mircea_popescu: good q.

smickles: whoever got that 1394btc worth at .0014 should be happy

smickles: come dividend day