smickles: mircea_popescu: sometimes you act way too much like my first girlfriend
smickles: i'm going to go have a smoke instead of continuing this list
mircea_popescu: i thought it was moar like, 1. you beat up on naked girls ; 2. you do magics with money ; 3. you're pretty fucking scary ; 4. you have the biggest beard i ever saw outside of like, a deceased patriarch
Ukto: anyone with a BF account happen to be awake?
Ukto: do you happen to have any orders placed atm?
Ukto: Just wanted to make sure ppl could see the 'my ask'/'my bid' and cancel button on the orders list
Ukto: pigeons: did you see the new depth graph? kinda crappy, but not bad for a first start
Ukto: gonna try to add that selector line like on the trading graph
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.0036 = 6.12 BTC [+]
Ukto: 387 shares sold (0.1 value)
Ukto: so it COULD make it
Ukto: if anything get pretty close
Ukto: been aboud 140shares per day so far
Ukto: if it maintains, then yeah, should have enough
Ukto: ppl will be stepping away
Ukto: so it may not, hard to say
Ukto: the only real attention BF is getting, is the securities forum, and that reddit post jurov linked it in
mircea_popescu: kind of a hard sell for btc veterans. i imagine it must be attractive to new ppl.
Ukto: well, the bonds have a reasonably good history
Ukto: though a 2~4% gain, with the risk of that nasty looking possible-pirate month scares alot of ppl it seems
Ukto: thats the only complanit I have seen
Ukto: sat least ppl like it
mircea_popescu: otherwise the bonds do tend to collect about enough capital each time
Ukto: or choose it over other options
Ukto: the test with the sdice asset
mircea_popescu: originally people were putting like 2-3k in, cause it's what it used, then it had that 8k month i covered for
Ukto: is showing to be almost 4:1 now
mircea_popescu: recently it had that 40k month, i imagine it'll get filled close to that again
Ukto: yeah, too bad I didnt get any in for this month. ;)
Ukto: the ppl who chose bf
pigeons: 2 out of 3 dentists prefer glbse
Ukto: in shareholder counts. share counts, pffft, almost no comparison
Ukto: until he decides to go on a drive bomb run
Ukto: got the selector line now in teh depth graph
Ukto: what other graphing type info
Ukto: any use for a polar chart... mebbe a nifty pie?
Ukto: I woudl do OHLC & Candles... but as I said before.. its a 24hr market... seems that open/close is pointless data
mircea_popescu: someone seems to be usiong some sort of sql injection to replace item images
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00355763 = 12.4517 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 363 @ 0.0035 = 1.2705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063658 = 10.1853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006348 = 2.743 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063453 = 3.2862 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063623 = 2.7491 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00063658 = 0.1273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37477 @ 0.00063666 = 23.8601 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063467 = 2.7424 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20879 @ 0.00063453 = 13.2484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063477 = 2.7428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172 @ 0.00063453 = 0.1091 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8076 @ 0.000629 = 5.0798 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1048 @ 0.00062922 = 0.6594 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The top 5 percent of households in Washington, D.C., made more than $500,000 on average last year, while the bottom 20 percent earned less than $9,500 - a ratio of 54 to 1.
mircea_popescu: take from the rich, take from the poor, give to yourself.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063633 = 2.7496 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10079 @ 0.00063666 = 6.4169 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3273 @ 0.00062922 = 2.0594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 728 @ 0.000629 = 0.4579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00062794 = 2.0088 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006282 = 2.7145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5801 @ 0.00062794 = 3.6427 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00062679 = 4.8576 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2943 @ 0.00062428 = 1.8373 BTC [-]
pigeons: hmm dunno how that mpoe short will go
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00063163 = 2.6566 BTC [+]
jurov: pigeons, maybe you can try issue bonds on bitfunder :D
jurov: on the other note, it's interesting how quickly it recovered
EskimoBob: this is a simple fix to broken IPO market.
Ukto: working to fight javascript
Ukto: and its inability to do real math
Ukto: thats all easy stuff
Ukto: if he says otherwise
Ukto: I'll look at it late tonight, or over the weekend
Ukto: but the 'how to' do it is already written in my head. just gotta put it in :P
Ukto: and since you didnt post it in bf's thread, I dont feel the need to have to timestamp reply "Done!" :P
jurov: EskimoBob, I start to get impression these IPO "flaws" are completely in your head
Ukto: jurov: more shares have sold
Ukto: assuming final exams, and holiday dont hamper things
Ukto: should hit the minimal needed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2036 @ 0.00062428 = 1.271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062247 = 1.4628 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2664 @ 0.00062111 = 1.6546 BTC [-]
Ukto: which means next month should easily hit it
Ukto: assuming the bonds dont get eaten :P
jurov: for example users can resell the promotional MPBPT shares and thus make us sell less... but I don't believe it will be significant part nor give a shit about that.
jurov: Ukto, looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable
jurov: but anything can happen, ofc. some folks around have their doubts about mtgox ... and then all bets are off
pigeons: "looks like there is no great btc price shakeup on horizon.. so mpoe should be profitable"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00062111 = 6.8943 BTC [-]
Ukto: what doubts about gox?
jurov: mtgox payout delays for some fiat currencies are going longer and longer
Ukto: for a year and a half
Ukto: pigeons: I dont want to know
jurov: i don't understand people who put up with that. some year ago my sepa transfer took 2weeks, so i told fuck you mtgox and never looked back.
Ukto: i updated the calc feature on BF
Ukto: if the total btc to buy is more than available, it turns red
Ukto: if teh share amount to sell is more than available, then btoh the amount and total fields turn red
Ukto: js is randomly bitching about the 7th and 8th decimal places tho
Ukto: 4 * 0.00000111 is fine.. but 4 * 0.00000011 = 4.4e-7
Ukto: even though its the same number of places on the output
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2136 @ 0.00062111 = 1.3267 BTC [-]
jurov: Ukto, can't you convert stuff to satoshi as first step and back as very last one?
EskimoBob: jurov: i have a feeling, you have never ever participated in any real life IPO and you are way outside of your area of competence. :)
Ukto: just an annoying pita
jurov: EskimoBob, that is not an argument. instead you could have directed your energy into explaining why the "flaws" are so serious to warrant such bitching ;)
EskimoBob: Ukto: wht do you even fuck around with decimals? Not a good idea in any financial system
jurov: cause if so many people resell instead of going long, that is imho bad price setting, or the stock is considered risky for long-term investment, etc.
EskimoBob: jurov: did you blink for too long when reading it? The "flaw" is described ;)
jurov: nothing that can be solved by forbidding to resell during IPO
Ukto: EskimoBob: just on the web display
EskimoBob: jurov: I guess you have to read up what IPO is for
Ukto: since people type decimal format into a price box
Ukto: you have to start from decimal
EskimoBob: Ukto: but you still do math in that "layer"?
Ukto: jurov: yes, turn the text price into satoshis, but when i go to divide bak to show it in decimal format, i still get 1e-7 & 1e-8
Ukto: i do the mat at the sataoshi level
Ukto: the issue is converting it back to decimal format for dispalying
EskimoBob: OK, i see, this is a display problem
Ukto: its javascript being shitty
jurov: Ok, I think there is some js formatting function, don't remember exactly
Ukto: i think I can do toFixed...
Ukto: thats what I just said
EskimoBob: / Example: toPrecision(2) when the number has 5 digits (3 before, 2 after)
EskimoBob: / It will round to the tens place expressed as an exponential
EskimoBob: result = num.toPrecision(2); // result will equal 5.6e+2
EskimoBob: / Example: toPrecision(4) when the number has 8 digits (4 before, 4 after)
Ukto: thats why I ended with tofixed
EskimoBob: result = num.toPrecision(4); // result will equal 5000
Ukto: EskimoBob: ive seen the apge :P
EskimoBob: is there a "round" or some crap like that for formatting the final number?
EskimoBob: function roundNumber(rnum, rlength) { // Arguments: number to round, number of decimal places
EskimoBob: var newnumber = Math.round(rnum * Math.pow(10, rlength)) / Math.pow(10, rlength);
Ukto: i think I will also put a light red background color in the text box
Ukto: just in case the red bold text isnt enough
Ukto: turns totals to red if insufficient funds or shares
Ukto: and changes the text box background color to a light red of the price, or share amount field thats in the wrong
evoorhees: everyone excited for Christmas? :)
Diablo-D3: who says thats mutually exclusive?
evoorhees: what do you mean, thestringpuller?
evoorhees: Mayan end of world comes first... it's on Friday
Diablo-D3: friday isnt end of the world, its just the end of being sober
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: it's not my code :)
evoorhees: thestringpuller: is this a good suprise or bad suprise?
jurov: thestringpuller is adding insta-doublespend function into his dice android client
evoorhees: how do you guys think SatoshiDice makes money? It just double spends all the money back to people ;)
evoorhees: won't be discovered until the whole thing collapses on the day of the mayan apocalypse
evoorhees: thestringpuller: do you know Ira, the developer of coinapult?
pigeons: hey goes by bearbones on here
Ukto: I was gonna poke terra but hes still off skype
EskimoBob: has anyone done business with ciuciu?
evoorhees: thestringpuller: well if you're actually doing something for coinapult I'd like to put you in touch with him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00061895 = 4.5183 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: evoorhees: lemme get prototype out and we can have meeting
thestringpuller: its inspired from a blogpost you wrote on bitinstant during the brazil conference.
jcpham: it was a slip, i swear ;p
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.30711, Best ask: 13.38399, Bid-ask spread: 0.07688, Last trade: 13.30711, 24 hour volume: 24066.25823172, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.28970
EskimoBob: jcpham: there is plenty of twitchy asshats around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00061895 = 2.4139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00061742 = 0.247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061875 = 2.6736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2445 @ 0.00061891 = 1.5132 BTC [+]
smickles: good forenoon mircea_popescu :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061756 = 2.6685 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7464 @ 0.00061742 = 4.6084 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: well, I too think it would be better to value based on the free float
mircea_popescu: if i sell you one acre out of a 10 acre plot of land would you propose the value of the plot is based on your acre ?
smickles: because of the control you _can_ exert on the price
smickles: I think that both forms of valuation are important
smickles: but considering that you own (and presumably won't sell) ~95% of shares, those 95% wouldn't be considered for a lot of market cap valuation purposes
mircea_popescu: but the presumption is false, which is why im writing. brb.
smickles: for example, the S&P 500 only considers free float market cap
smickles: one could consider the free float to be 50% of shares tho
chippewa: I'm Rodrigo with a new nick name
smickles: yeah, taking a strict definition, only 50% of shares are 'locked in'
smickles: I'm not aware of any institutional holders who would claim ownership and buy/neutral/sell position
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00059079 / 0.00061942 / 0.00063666 (697023 shares, 431.75 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00053538 / 0.00063995 (102520389 shares, 54,887.71 BTC)
smickles: ;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000 - 500000000)
smickles: ;;calc .00061942 * (1000000000)
smickles: so there you have free float market cap followed by implied valuation
smickles: (as best as I can figure from all available information)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1876 @ 0.00061891 = 1.1611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1374 @ 0.000619 = 0.8505 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: unless, of course, you have made a statemtent that you don't intend to ever sell some of that available 50% (the remaining 45% iirc)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061883 = 2.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4779 @ 0.000619 = 2.9582 BTC [+]
smickles: oh, and mircea_popescu even considering the quality of the source (investopedia): "
smickles: "The free-float method is seen as a better way of calculating market capitalization because it provides a more accurate reflection of market movements."
smickles: lol, wtf is a 'satoshisecond'?
smickles: what is that 2weiX going on about anyway? 5% cut? 10% cut? do they not realize you essentiall have a 95% cut?
mircea_popescu: <smickles> because of the control you _can_ exert on the price <<< if I have 500k btc i CAN exert the same exact control on the price as if I had 1bn shares.
mircea_popescu: what difference does it make ? of course I have resources. so do others.
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: who told you he is rich?
mircea_popescu: by getting the biggest guns, aiming them well and sticking to it.
smickles: clearly, he made his monies as a blogger
mircea_popescu: smickles you know, it was driving the romanians insane cause romanian incomes are really small and i was making a ton with the blog
smickles: thestringpuller: see, now you are putting conditions on it
smickles: thestringpuller: we ought to free ourselves a bit more before we get too concerned about koreans
mircea_popescu: i ain't pissing for anyone else and neither am i freeing them.
smickles: dammit mircea_popescu be more subtle, the whole 'freeing ourselves a bit more' can go on indefinitely, we'd never actually get to the point of freeing koreans :P
smickles: what mindgames are you on about now?
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: search his website address and word spam :)
mircea_popescu: smickles but more's the point, were you aware of the sales plan for s.mpoe ?
mircea_popescu: for the record, that twitter is run by a webhost for whom I was providing a honeypot address.
smickles: mircea_popescu: the auction part, yeah, but since it changed, i've been unsure
thestringpuller: smickles: bob marley mang: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds"
pigeons: have no fear for atomic energy none of dem canna stoppa da time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061769 = 2.669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16186 @ 0.00061742 = 9.9936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4843 @ 0.0006151 = 2.9789 BTC [-]
jcpham: sorry i only skimmed the headline
mircea_popescu: I don't understand why people rag on mpex. They complain about btc related businesses getting compromised. They complain about bots manipulating the pricing and "fake" walls on mtgox. mpex doesn't have any of that crap and people bitch about it - I don't get it.
mircea_popescu: waaah, I want rounded corners and lots of slick js and css...
mircea_popescu: waaah, slick-xchange got 0day'd via cornerrounder.js and all the accounts are locked/stolen...
mircea_popescu: waaah, people who know nothing about security are creating btc websites and getting hacked...
mircea_popescu: waaah, mpex uses proven encryption but gpg is hard and the submit screen is plain...
mircea_popescu: waaah, bitcoin should be taken seriously as currency...
mircea_popescu: waaah, mpex is charging a fee for signup as if it was a real business but I want to slop 0.05 btc back and forth on options and 30 btc to open account is ridicuous....
mircea_popescu: ok, that guy made my day. how do you tip people on reddit ?
mircea_popescu: jesus this bitcoinstuff is ocmplex. anyone with the tipping set up want to send one for me ?
pigeons: i just learned EskimoBob doesn't have tourrette's ;)
smickles: mircea_popescu: you forgot the 'waaah, mpex regularly makes people hundreds of btc, but I think derivitives are evil for no good reason and I didn't take the time to understand that bond thingy, so i'm jelly'
mircea_popescu: smickles i was just quoting. i could make that list five meters long
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it makes pretty decent web stuff afaik. what can i tell ya.
mircea_popescu: noway. it says clearly on the return slips, i am the 94%
smickles: thestringpuller: damn man it's worse than one percent, mircea_popescu is the 5%!
smickles: hmm, I retract my occupy statment
smickles: at this rate, i'll soon be in opposition :P
smickles: er, nix that =, replace with a +
mircea_popescu: so basically that idiot ver just sunk blockchain.info ?
pigeons: he calls himself "bitcoin jesus". seriously.
jurov: nothing about eskimo. just that he despises IPOs with tiered pricing that enable trading, cause what if the first investors resell, blabla... he's funny
pigeons: its been edited a bit by now
smickles: i can be part of this occupy mpex for 29.06 more months
mircea_popescu: not only is he dishonest, but he wants to lie about it.
pigeons: my biggest problem is that he freaked out over 4 btc
pigeons: then its not so cool that he abused his pull with a seperate company to check on the dude's address
mircea_popescu: and i'm not terribly enchanted with piuk either, he won't list it but he sells stakes to random asshats ?
EskimoBob: LOL. jurov, you are still going on about IPO stuff? Did I hurt your feelings some how?
jurov: no, exactly opposite. i found it hilarious
EskimoBob: if you have questions, pleas ask but don't be a dick about it, acting all insulted and what not
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: are you going to add this to the drama timeline?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller don't really intend to update it, maybe make another dec 2013
EskimoBob: jurov: laughing is good. Helps you get over your problems
jurov: eskimobob, i wrote my pionts/questions to btctalk
jurov: and deprived said similar stuff right after that
mircea_popescu: so basically what's this, failed issuer manages to not sell anything and wants market controls to prop his dubious venture ?
mircea_popescu: pigeons ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131648.0
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: have you ever actually bought a single share of stock in a real ipo in real world?
mircea_popescu: iirc i published account screenshots showing decent holdings a while back. did you ?
Diablo-D3: you've said some questionable shit too
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob you know, most idiots in btc harp about how clueless i am.
EskimoBob: I do not have to. You do it yourself every fkn day, mp
jcpham: dmc mines exclusively on nvidia gpu's
Diablo-D3: jcpham: nope, Im using a giant POWER cluster now
smickles: thestringpuller: Bitcoin's value is backed by drama
jcpham: old jokes never get old
Diablo-D3: smickles: you know, I think you might actually be right
smickles: little did you know, Bitcoin was actually an invention of the entertainment industry
Diablo-D3: everytime Ive seen the price spike, theres been heavy drama in the forums
kakobrekla: they couldnt sell dvds no more, so they made bitcoin
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.25807, Best ask: 13.33999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08192, Last trade: 13.25807, 24 hour volume: 26701.70585636, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.39900, 24 hour vwap: 13.29278
smickles: gwaa, the AZ copr. comiss. should hurry up already
dub: wat, EskimoBob is paying dividends on his art mining with no art mining equipment backing it
dub: its a weed and lentils ponzi
Ukto: your ponzischeming?
PeterL: dub: You bring up a valid question, how is EskimoBob paying dividends if he is not making any profit yet?
mircea_popescu: PeterL because he bought one single share in a single irl ipo once.
smickles: will you not say 'valid question' validity is a property of arguments, not questions
mircea_popescu: validity is a property of questions as well, as it's a property of statements in general
jcpham: it's 35 minutes past noon
smickles: mircea_popescu: statements can contribute to validity if they are part of a valid argument :P
smickles: inb4 someone makes a scope argument
smickles: mircea_popescu: yeah, we're clearly disagreeing on founding principles :D
PeterL: they say the only bad questions are the ones you don't ask, so if he asked a question it must be valid, right?
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 13 seconds
mircea_popescu: PeterL don't take things too bad, people rib each other lots here.
PeterL: no, I was agreeing with you, I think
smickles: heh, yea, in fact, you could put me down by the fact that I was ribbing you with a flu flu philo position
pigeons: wait we don't really hate each other?
smickles: you know that's a sign of autism now?
dub: mircea_popescu, apparently running a mining bond without hardware to back it up is a scam, according to such experts as EskimoBob
PeterL: isn't a mining bond without mining equipment a scam?
pigeons: that's interesting, i thought it was just a natural manifestataion of the desire living things have to get high
dub: PeterL: if you say so
Ukto: I got a diff sit and spin when searching
PeterL: otherwise it would just be a ponzi?
mircea_popescu: PeterL i guess it would depend on what info is used to establish payouts. but in any case it would heavily depend on the issuer's credit.
dub: the infos to hand is that payouts are established from the pocket of EskimoBob
pigeons: honest question. is there a difference between from his pocket vs. from stock sales?
dub: another pertinent question would be where are teh lentils, weed, deodorising crystals for the hairy women etc getting funded from
dub: hippies don't grow on trees
pigeons: how do you know a hippie has been staying at your house?
PeterL: But if one is selling a "mining bond" without doing any ming, it would at least be dishones charaterization of what they are selling?
pigeons: PeterL: some people were selling the btc output of x mhash
mircea_popescu: PeterL well it could be a synthetic short deal, which'd be fine. "i'll pay youy whatever mining pays you defined as X Y Z"
PeterL: yeah, I guess it depends on how exactly the agreement is worded
dub: PeterL: there were a number of 1mh/s bonds issued on glbse that were not backed (at least not fully) by actual hardware, the wording was that the bondholder would recieve btc equal to the output of 1mh/s
PeterL: EskimoBob: are you using the term "girls" disparagingly? Seems kinda rude to 50% of the population?
pigeons: why do so many hippies move to Oregon?
pigeons: they heard there was no work there
PeterL: dub: The issue goes down to wether the investor is trying to just make money or increase the security of the network?
dub: PeterL: uh if the contract says you get the equiv of 1mh/s who cares how
EskimoBob: pigeons: and the weather is not too good over there
dub: PeterL: I'll asnwer that question for you, EskimoBob cared
pigeons: What kind of cigarettes do hippies smoke?
dub: which is why its funny that he is doing the same thing
EskimoBob: dub: how am I exactly "doing the same thing"
PeterL: EskimoBob: you are paying weekly dividends, yes?
dub: I wouldnt bother trying to actually explain it to him
PeterL: just checking to see if I have the correct facts ...
dub: I have to pay those form my own pocket for now. Obviously I can not nor do I plan to do this forever. Smiley
dub: This is why getting the coin together and ordering the equipment is really important. But hey, this is only the first week.
dub: first week of the ponzi is always the hardest
jcpham: i'd like to hear more of the story of clipse myself
jcpham: obviously he was gambling an entire pool's worth of coins
EskimoBob: it's probably good idea to post your questions to forum so I can answer them
jcpham: he ran a pool that paid higher than normal PPS
jcpham: he became more and more active on irc. until the end.
pigeons: he said he paid more cause hopping. then theh money ended up with pirate. then he was gone
jcpham: i think he paid more because he had it at btcst
jcpham: and that's the only reason he paid more
jcpham: because he could afford to
PeterL: oh pirate keeps coming back to bite everybody
jcpham: clipse talked a lot of shit about selling virgin wallet.dat's with solo mined coins
pigeons: he had a pony avatar, so i'm guessing youngun
iz: i think clipse lost a lot of money w/ the pirate thing
iz: or he was just a very angry opinionated guy
dub: someone doxxed clipse its in the forum somwhere
dub: Neill Roelofse, 27 and he lives in Cape Town, Bellville.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061874 = 2.6736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4379 @ 0.000619 = 2.7106 BTC [+]
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: did james sent out the new list? (in few last days)
Ukto: this morning/last night
Ukto: he completed alot of peoples lists
Ukto: sounds like they were non-glbse-claims even
Ukto: no btc addy was supplied for the person I talked to
Ukto: ppl who didnt claim
Ukto: two ppl have told me the new list, NOT yaml file, buy csv this time
Ukto: no btc addys, just email and share count
EskimoBob: Ukto: OK, thanx. This is good news
mircea_popescu: Namjies, i got a btc with your name on it, what addy do you want it at ?
jcpham: i use telnet-tunnel for secure
EskimoBob: telnet? brr... do people still use that stuff?
pigeons: he just wanted to see some routes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00061537 = 2.659 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8979 @ 0.0006151 = 5.523 BTC [-]
dub: theres plenty of stuff that only supports telnet
dub: its not like its over the internet
EskimoBob: rrr... this cifs-utils samba drama
Namjies: Eh fuck. ASICMINER has not resumed trading yet eh...
Namjies: Well send there please 1PRsPqFgWjdbbDywFXvVTvp2hUUbDnMzKX
dub: send what? some stolen bitcoinica coins? one sec
Ukto: dub: you admits it!
Ukto: Give it back! my preciousssss.....
Namjies: For about 1000 ASICMINER he wanted to short.
Namjies: But since it's not trading anymore...
Namjies: That might be it. I kind of let those go after GLBSE closed and forgot the number since then eh
mircea_popescu: pity glbse closed. i was making nice dough shorting bullcrap
dub: I had a few of those, whats happening with them?
dub: was kinda hoping they would win the asic race and I could sell them for 10btc each
Namjies: People apparently didn't like the 3d effect so I removed it.
Namjies: rg did release a statement, I believe
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47493, Best ask: 13.50799, Bid-ask spread: 0.03306, Last trade: 13.47493, 24 hour volume: 34702.98997692, 24 hour low: 13.12250, 24 hour high: 13.57999, 24 hour vwap: 13.33504
Namjies: Aye. I guess I'm not good enough yet at 3d effects
Namjies: Plus arij/phungus seems to like more simple designs.
Namjies: Instead, but I'm trying to make something more potent if possible. And actually unique and custom.
Namjies: I don't get 5 credits per week.
mircea_popescu: (the way it works tho, is you have 5 slots, and they expire in 7 days. so if you use all the same day you get 5 more in 7 days)
Namjies: Yes, I've been like 2 months without any credit every time I go on the blog
jurov: Namjies, do you have admin console for switzerland, or just jerking over the site design so far?
jurov: could not get enough time from james to upgrade the kernel, or fix ipv6 address
kakobrekla: members of rota should get free credits.
jurov: hush, kakobrekla. i shall submit the FSA stuff on venetfx to rota. just for lulz.
jcpham: yes, how is the rota coming along
Namjies: ask phungus/arij, I don't have access to servers yet.
Namjies: I'll be doing design/tickets/management tasks.
Lyspooner: any plans to list single-stock futures? imagine MPEX listing an option on MPEX that expires into MPEX shares
kakobrekla: jurov, go ahead, MP will just short it (the fsa)
jurov: kakobrekla, maybe rota will order FSA to register you promptly
jcpham: i'd like to say thanks and that these judges look impartial to me
jurov: or, on second thought, rota will ask fsa to UNregister you. so that you will stay completely outside of law as is proper in btcland.
mircea_popescu: i don't think fsa is advanced enough to have a pgp sign
kakobrekla: fsa has got nothing to do with bitcoin clients in the first place, it is as irrelevant as MNW's signature
pigeons: speaking of MNW's signature, remember, only you back bitcoins
jurov: Namjies, are these phungus/arij in irc somewhere?
jurov: bitvps client area cert just expired
pigeons: jurov: #bitvps #bitcoin-otc
Namjies: indeed, #bitvps channel would be where to find us.
dub: mircea_popescu: the judges sit for a year at a time?
dub: "disqualified for lack of proper form" heh
dub: sounds like, did not show adequate commitment
jcpham: i misspelled adjudicator in mine
jcpham: i can only imagine how bad the denied application was
dub: in the team america sense of showing commitment
jcpham: i hope no one ever has a dispute
dub: yeah, seems like a shitty job to me tbh
dub: but all power to those willing to do it
jcpham: i think the judges are more than reputable
jcpham: excluding me of course
dub: of course, you're just a cunt
dub: speaking of cunt, someone I work with drove into the carpark behind me today
dub: i am a whole buttload of raspberry jelly
jcpham: i have the 1996 version
Ukto: feel free to pay me. :P
jcpham: did i just get made fun of
jcpham: my supra predates pirate
Ukto: Undecided. Please check back later. :P
jcpham: it's as close as anybody will ever get
jcpham: i've only sat in one fr-s
dub: im waiting for the RC model to drop next year
dub: then I'll beg mrs dub to let me have one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 64558 @ 0.0036 = 232.4088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1650 @ 0.00364467 = 6.0137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8927 @ 0.003699 = 33.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 174865 @ 0.0036995 = 646.9131 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: In India, for legal works, which has to be done by timely & correctly, we need to bribe 1000+ INR.
mircea_popescu: For illegal or other works, then maybe up to 10 times or more.
dub: possibly swap the engine from my corolla into it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250000 @ 0.0036995 = 924.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0035 / 0.00368019 / 0.0036995 (536763 shares, 1,975.39 BTC), 30day: 0.0018 / 0.00343144 / 0.0037 (7135181 shares, 24,483.96 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 25000 @ 0.0036995 = 92.4875 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: jcpham: Oh awesome.. are you the guy who was telling off that guy with the camera in your face, and then who clipped buddy with your car?
dub: midnightmagic: sounds like a video of coingenuity that was floating around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.0036995 = 425.4425 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: Whoever the poor guy is, he's sitting outside and he keeps repeating, "Fuck OFF jason, fuck OFF jason, jason FUCK OFF." Except I'm not sure "jason" is the right name I'm quoting.
EskimoBob: intersango closed the GBP trading down for good
EskimoBob: I guess if you can not send out GBP to bank accounts, it is pointless
EskimoBob: LOL, the comment following: Great, now close the rest of the site.
jcpham: that's not me midnightmagic
jcpham: or i don't think it is
jcpham: i want to see this video
EskimoBob: now all they need to do is rename it to "3 stooges" and be done with it
davout_: phantomcircuit said that people would be able to cash out with international wires with not-yet-known fees
EskimoBob: davout: did you see the SEPA transfer fee? it's 10 EUR! LOL, it actually cost only 0.36€
davout: EskimoBob: SEPA transfer fees vary depending on the bank
davout: EskimoBob: when bitcoin-central was still dealing with the fuckers at the Rietumu bank it was a whopping 15€
davout: anyway, it all sounds fucked up
EskimoBob: so, we have 6026 shares of ART left for now