tmsr - Search: zamac

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936438 << prolly mircea_popescu was thinking of zinc (as in sovok coffin), rather than the cast shitmetal 'zamac' . but mno, these in fact need good mechanical strength and -- even moar vitally -- good thermals

asciilifeform: ( br ~does~ sell cheap zamac 'colt' with which for poor usaschwitz inmates to shoot selves with... )

asciilifeform: ( to be fair, not only zamac in this story, but peculiarity of gringostani politics where 'pre-ban' xyz is a thing )

asciilifeform: asciilifeform ~decade ago went to a traditional american festivity, gigantic flea market where small arms bought and sold in open air. found it interesting that the most valuable wares were not even antiques in the usual sense, of century+, but 1970s-80s : apparently the 'peak' of the tech, modern calibers and 0 zamac.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( and who's to say that borated. can entirely be ordinary. ) << To be clear doping glass is borosilicate because dopers are clumsy when doped. Because dabbing is apparently a thing now titanium means titanium when it comes to dope tools that get heated. Otherwise metal not specified means Zamac, and Aluminum usually means Zamac, because that's what the first A in Zamac is for

ben_vulpes: im also evaluating this claim that the lone star state is somehow not the same thin plastic veneer over zamac the rest of the country's made of. it at least has endogenous oil stores and the locals carry a reputation for being profit minded

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, i recall having sed crash on me last week. "tools". zamac 100% quality guaranteed.

BingoBoingo: Until those get the Zamac treatment too

ben_vulpes: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160916/#242 << plausible, sure, but what has actually happened is that a) the chicoms have diddled the phillips female bit such that it cams out at the slightest provocation and than on top of that the zamac used to replace it wears after so much as a single slipped drive and b) torx is a convenient workaround for the shit metals

mircea_popescu: sure, sure. a proper alloy saves you from shitty geometry, but you can't use zamac.

BingoBoingo: wood, plastic, zamac

mircea_popescu: dude that shit you linked... jesus god. yes, you can get a zamac thing for "1500".

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: aha, if for eating, doesn't much matter if the nonpressurized parts are of zamac << Yes

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha, if for eating, doesn't much matter if the nonpressurized parts are of zamac

ascii_modem: made in usa at this time (if not car) means that labour was ruinously expensive - and so there was no sense in saving five cents to make all the parts 'zamac'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the existence of pistols with 'zamac' moving parts blew my mind

BingoBoingo: fine, the outer case is a plated flexible Brass, the inner insert is rigid steel. There is a taper and ring combination between the case and inset that is tight to non-polar fluids. Aluminum on aluminum and Zamac on Zamac don't accomplish this. <<< ATTN CHINESE COUNTERFEITERS PLS ACK

mircea_popescu: wtf who ever thought "o look, this zamac is too strong! we need a shittier replacement!"

asciilifeform: the availability of zamac doesn't cause crud to be produced in lieu of genuine article. or does it?

asciilifeform: the attempted point is that the h1b folks are quite analogous to 'zamac'

asciilifeform: good symbol of american degradation incidentally. afaik all examples produced in past 20 years or so - have 'zamac' parts.

BingoBoingo: Broke 3 Zamac turds, moved to a beauty in 440 stainless steel

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 100 percent machined parts, nothing stamped, nothing made of shitmetal (e.g. 'zamac') << no, because metals can be purified, but organics not so well.

asciilifeform: (the first person who told me that there are now small arms with zamac parts, i did not believe him!)

asciilifeform: 100 percent machined parts, nothing stamped, nothing made of shitmetal (e.g. 'zamac')

asciilifeform: i never even knew of zamac until i had a... corkscrew break in half.