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mircea_popescu: currently the financial position of
pizarro is long cash / short tangibles (90/10 or something like that is the split iirc ?) meaning it will gain when fiat depreciates and lose when it appreciates.
mircea_popescu: yes, if
pizarro had 10 btc worth of gear end of q1, then
pizarro'd have had 15+ btc worth of gear today.
mircea_popescu: well, consider the situation in the field. the unearned income acct hurt, in that
pizarro will have to service in the future in excess of current fiat value ; the capital goods acct helped, in that the servers it owns are worth more in btc than they were when bought.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, alternatively, if you find actually interesting banner selling ppl i'll both pay you for the effort and buy their banners to help take some load off zee
pizarro. you have almost enough here to start your own "digital media" agency, just need to hire some worthless ditzen now and is all set!
mod6: I want to get more advertising for
Pizarro going, and I thought I would just drop this in here so other republicans are aware if they wanna help pitch in on the banner effort.
mod6: Hi all,
Pizarro is working on some advertising materials - in particular banner ads that can be placed on blogs / sites. We'll be coming up with some sort of amount we can pay for advertisers per month to have this up on their homepages / main pages.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:30 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here
pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here
pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints.
☝︎☟︎ ave1: the libre computer board is in the
pizarro rk? it seems to be 80$ for 4G. This is the same price, for the rockpro64.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 19:36 asciilifeform: a rockchip cluster under snsa banner , for
pizarro, also under construction ( currently still in component search phase ) , construction also planned for this mo
lobbes: On my todo list is prop up an instance of the tmsr logbot on my
pizarro rockchip and redo the #eulora logs to be fed from that. I built the #eulora log-o-tron back in 2015, and back then I had just typed 'ls' for the first time in my life, so I wager I can make the whole process much saner this time around.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-02 00:13 BingoBoingo: The point where L2 Republicans with productive history get blocked from purchasing
Pizarro services over a Lordly negrating, and where efforts at resolution suggest the only problem is skin insufficiently resistant for Lordly responsibility... is the sort of situation where I would consider deploying my own power to negrate.
lobbes:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-6-2#366691 << Since there seems to be some angst and confusion here on -why- I negrated the mouse in question, let me try to clarify. I had 0 problems (even liked the d00d) before he decided to turn his games of "I am butthurt because I suffered what I see as great injustice, so let me bitch and try to manipulate from the sidelines" (i.e old woman games) onto lobbes. I simply -have no time- for such insanity
lobbes:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-31#366191 << You know, I was still going to rate you positively on the basis of your service to the republic, but then I thought "why?". You decide that on your way out the door you'll try and casually attack my reputation on the basis of... what exactly? Yeah, I made those comments. But then I sat, thought, came to my senses, left kako to rot, joined #t, built an auction bot, built an archive process, lea
a111: Logged on 2018-05-31 15:48 asciilifeform: in other noose, unmodified
pizarro pilotplant rootfs ( as published in
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and to rc customers ) boots ( with, for the time being , heathen kernel ) on cp101pa .
ben_vulpes: hey BingoBoingo would you apply the same razor you applied to the landing page copy to the rest of the copy on the
pizarro site?
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817939 << I don't think being too technical is necessarily a bad thing, but my own issue with ben_vulpes' original was that a) too 'cheesy' b) too much 'digging' to unearth the selling points. Conversely, I like how ave1's version is straight and to the point (e.g. bullet points of "why
Pizarro" are front and center). Good skeleton imo
☝︎ mod6: ave1: Looks like you maybe took your attempt at the
Pizarro landing page down?
mircea_popescu: i would say it is an absolute requirement for
pizarro to maintain a localbitcoins account and sink in the required time to build itself a network of known-good users, as these in fact appear to exist, and may constitute humanity candidates / come in useful laterally.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 17:26 mircea_popescu: but anyway, im off to manage some efforts to research the world for
pizarro's benefit inter alia, so bbs.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, im off to manage some efforts to research the world for
pizarro's benefit inter alia, so bbs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ah i see whjat you mean now, i thought you meant you hate the idea hitler can see
pizarro-set price and ride.
mircea_popescu: though i'm guessing
pizarro might actually prefer monthly rather than weekly fixings
trinque: asciilifeform: what volume of printolade does
pizarro need per month?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 03:13 mircea_popescu: tell you what : do trinque's thing ; then do the ssh/ssl thing ; then we can talk about you running this thing exactly like
pizarro is run, why the hell not.
lobbes: trinque's got a point re: marketing materials. Also, can I get a copy of the service agreement
pizarro has with dc (en español is fine)? The primary selling point for the shared hosting is going to be "host whatever you want", but it obviously cannot be "anything" so salesperson needs to know the edges
ben_vulpes: lobbes: for so long as a customer is paying
pizarro is the intention
mircea_popescu: hey, i got good news for you : a) BingoBoingo escaped to uruguay on the strength of
pizarro ; and diana_coman started her s.mg career as an effectual player.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 19:49 mircea_popescu: ~technically~
pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not,
pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:48 lobbes: mod6: re
pizarro wot policy: so you're saying positive lordly ratings do not cancel out negative lordly ratings? i.e. rule is simply: "any lordly negrate disualifies?"
mircea_popescu: ~technically~
pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not,
pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:01 mod6: mircea_popescu: how should
Pizarro handle this, in your opinion, given the last conversation about this?
mod6: let's take the rockchip discussion into #
pizarro mod6: So, what we're saying then is, if someone rents a box for someone else, and that someone else gets neg-rated, then it's up to the renter to figure it out? What if the renter says, "hey fuck what
pizarro and its customers think". Does
Pizarro not have a say in it's own customer usage then?
mod6:
Pizarro shall follow the rule and remove access to that scammer. Simple as that.
diana_coman: mod6, my reading is that
pizarro does business with mp here though, not with douchebag
lobbes: mod6: re
pizarro wot policy: so you're saying positive lordly ratings do not cancel out negative lordly ratings? i.e. rule is simply: "any lordly negrate disualifies?"
☟︎ trinque: and douchebag, sounds like you have another lord from whom to ask forgiveness;
pizarro account is still in peril
lobbes: re wot: I mean, the serenity of leveraging the wot, imho, is that it is a purely individual-to-individual thing by design. In this case, you have
Pizarro (P) who has customer relationships with MP and D. D has been negrated by T on the basis of Tx. MP can either decide 1) Tx means enough to request P get rid of D, in which case P now determines if it values MP or D moar, or 2) MP decides Tx does not mean enough to request P get rid of D.
mod6: Was just trying to avoid (perhaps stupidly) some
Pizarro gyrations.
douchebag: I already have a webserver running on my
pizarro box. I just don't know how I'm supposed to unpack mpwp
mod6: mircea_popescu: how should
Pizarro handle this, in your opinion, given the last conversation about this?
☟︎ mod6: This is not a negotiation. Just asking what the deal is. Cause
Pizarro is going to end up removing him from the hardware.
lobbes: This I am not sure of. My gut says a small percentage of each sale, but I've no idea what constitutes a "standard percentage" here. I am also a) inexperienced in sales, and b) motivated on the basis that the tmsr crisis isn't really over until a profitable
Pizarro exists, so I'm pretty open on terms >>
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814925 ☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:56 BingoBoingo: mod6: Well
pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of
Pizarro's line and into my own.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole
pizarro operation's << Sweet
ben_vulpes: yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole
pizarro operation's
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:23 BingoBoingo: <mod6> And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion. << I am willing to table the future incentive so you can come up with something more favorable to
Pizarro than 1 integer BTC.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> And the per-diem money, if we can get it to "reasonable bump" per month, is a done-deal in my opinion. << I am willing to table the future incentive so you can come up with something more favorable to
Pizarro than 1 integer BTC.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: elaborate re what's wrong with normal btc ( you can sell it now, or later, or convert to whatever suits you ) << Normal BTC is fine for this, but for
pizarro's sake I am denominating this in Dosiedoes
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:40 BingoBoingo: mod6: The core components I am looking for are 1) A lump sum now or in the near future so that when
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814853 comes I am not caught horribly undercapitalized. 2) an increase in the daily per diem to an amount that includes breathing room 3) Something sort of future award contingent on staying here. And apartment was not figured into that because it is unclear if
Pizarro wants to get an apartment or if
BingoBoingo: mod6: Well
pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of
Pizarro's line and into my own.
☟︎ BingoBoingo:
Pizarro wants to get BingoBoingo an apartment.
BingoBoingo: mod6: The core components I am looking for are 1) A lump sum now or in the near future so that when
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814853 comes I am not caught horribly undercapitalized. 2) an increase in the daily per diem to an amount that includes breathing room 3) Something sort of future award contingent on staying here. And apartment was not figured into that because it is unclear if
Pizarro wants to get an apartment or if
☝︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: hostingdiscussion.com at least has a user-enumerable db, but i don't know if an automated approach would get
pizarro blacklisted, or even if we care, right? can make another account and pick up where left off.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, why do you suspect
pizarro can pay something like that ? << The idea is that there is a path for
pizarro to get revenue. If
pizarro can´t afford something closer to that than the current arrangement, I suspect they can't afford to keep someone in Uruguay.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, why do you suspect
pizarro can pay something like that ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but to approach them on behalf of
Pizarro,
Pizarro's gotta have something for me to ask of them.
BingoBoingo: If you are looking for a temporary liquidity source though, have you considered pete_dushenski? He might be interested in the opportunity to buy BTC from
Pizarro.
BingoBoingo: put some of my idle time into compiling reports on
Pizarro's options for accomplishing certain goals (getting a UY corp, etc) I can do that. I need clarity of instructions.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 06:25 mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" --
pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 05:56 mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that
pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" --
pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that
pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 16:35 mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then
pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and yes,
pizarro can issue bonds in general. who buys them depends on who
pizarro wants to sell them to.
mod6: This is something that would be figured out at some later date (the conversion rate). However, can
Pizarro issue bonds just to me? Or does there need to be a tranche of them offered otherwise?
mircea_popescu: so agree that you'll each add another 5btc as circumstances merit ; then
pizarro has all the backing it needs and a clear path to success. and if the circumstances "merit" in the sense that it needs rescuing rather than it's expanding, you can fire the management and get someone else or w/e.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the fact that
pizarro is actually well supported is the principal part, for its commercial credit. otherwise, it can't well spend even the 10 it has so far, 1.5 or so go to the rockchips, then it's all "get sales going".
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, you see holes in ye logic ? << Sounds good. I think that s.nsa building the chassis then we do it as stated is fine. (unless I misunderstand).
Pizarro will pay for these in cash. I agree too on staying away from the equity buys as well.