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Mocky: a lot of sites are blocked in qatar and i don't know if I'll need it but I'd like to run a web proxy on my pizarro shared hosting just in case. can someone make a recommendation? do I need something like tinyproxy or squid, or is there a way to do it without installing anything? ☟︎☟︎
mod6: BingoBoingo: Please just enter a bid from yourself on behalf of Pizarro for 1 satoshi more than I bid.
mircea_popescu: heck, half the fucking reason we even did pizarro was to get this going, if yo urecall.
mod6: any regular buyers of btc should just throw out an auction for some minimal amount. Say $500 USD, and once pizarro wins those aucutions, they'll get the hang of it.
trinque: mod6: the hinting thing doesn't work. put a blog post out and give direction, pizarro's process is to ...
mod6: i pasted that log line above because i was hinting to readers "hey, if you want to buy pizarro's coins, this is how you do it." But no one even asked.
trinque: this would look like an ideal position for pizarro, as you'd have far more of a sense in advance what fiat you may be able to pick up.
mircea_popescu: this, as far as i can tell, is perfectly useful to pizarro as things stand now, and perfecly approachable to everyone, and a permanent solution to the record and advertisement requirements people have.
mircea_popescu: it ~seems to me~ this difference is not worth a postage stamp, if indeed i understand the description of pizarro's situation mod6 is making correctly, that is, "we have trouble finding lots of fiat to buy, not finding exact chunks".
mircea_popescu: to translate the difference between "i'm selling 8k fiats" and "i wish to buy 8k fiats" ? is the specificity of ammounts on pizarro side such a huge deal for you lot ?
mod6: After for sure. I don't have the exact date, but I'd say it was in the last week of september -- I reached out to a few people directly since I wasn't getting any takers in either #pizarro or #trielam.
mircea_popescu: so if jurov has a chunk of fiat, he can offer it and pizarro can bid and i guess trinque could bid more if he wanted to. this is dysfunctional ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:04 mod6: Also folks, Pizarro needs to purchase some fiat, so if you're interested, can start up an auction if you like, or can do WU or whatever. Minimum $500, please. Let us know if interested.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-23 01:43 mod6: Pizarro is looking to purchase some fiat for next month. Please reach out to me if you would like to sell some dollars! Thanks in advance.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:04 mod6: Also folks, Pizarro needs to purchase some fiat, so if you're interested, can start up an auction if you like, or can do WU or whatever. Minimum $500, please. Let us know if interested.
mod6: I'm sorry, I was just acting to do what I thought was best for Pizarro and it's customers. I seem to be getting it wrong, somehow.
asciilifeform: trinque: entirely meant as non-flame. i like selling usd occasionally ( did first , what , 6mo of pizarro... ) but i do not have a proper algo currently.
mod6: All, an update from Pizarro: The price point that Pizarro will be using for the month of October is $6170 per BTC.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox at your earliest convenience to pgp to asciilifeform your notes re how pizarro exit router was configged... asciilifeform is baking a pilot replacement for subj
mircea_popescu: yeah but we were using a "standard" figure. what's pizarro charge, i don't recall ? was it 10% ?
mod6: I gotta get the report done for pizarro. I've also gotta lock in a price and get the bills paid.
mod6: And for the time being, I've got Pizarro things that need doing.
mod6: i'll find it, just a minute. then I gotta reivew the rest of the log, and move on to pizarro things.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pre-pizarro i actually tried a dozen ru isp. they all wanted ru corp.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857656 -> udp tester for pizarro win! ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: item will need some tuning to work as pizarro main switch, presently i only ever used it as a nat ( large-ish lan to 1 external ip ) thing
mircea_popescu: if it's good enough to ship to pizarro it's good enough to sell.
lobbes: (obligatory pizarro pitch to log readers: where else can you have 100% context on -why- service is being done on your box, as well as watch it unfold real-time? Compare and contrast with, say, this example from heathenlandia (Edis) >> http://archive.is/NVpIR)
asciilifeform: i've been thinking i oughta conjure up moar trb nodez, but erry time i sit down and look to do it, end up thinking 'why give money to heathen derps'. but on other hand it dun do much good to put 9000 nodes all in pizarro. but to which heathen can give moneys without retching..
mod6: workin' on the pizarro stuff here...
asciilifeform: ( pizarro per se has no use for the old drives once we get errybody onto the new )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:43 mod6: Pizarro, on the other hand, I'm more of a fish out of water.
mod6: I'm really lacking in the 'sales' end of things with Pizarro too, obviously.
mod6: Pizarro, on the other hand, I'm more of a fish out of water. ☟︎
mod6: Right now, I've got two major struggles. The Foundation, which I feel like I've been at least successful at the trb curation end of (and am certainly much more well suited for), and Pizarro.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider eg that pizarro doesn't need to undertake the (significant, and unbounded) cost of writing "code of conduct" or "terms of service" or any of the other nonsense. things have changed. nude bitcoin is dangerous in the sense discussed in 2012, but bitcoin-as-currency-of-the-republic eminently usable today.
mod6: I will do so formally after the Pizarro report is complete. We will be needing to find a replacement for myself as Co-Chair.
mod6: I'll be working on the Pizarro report over the next few days. After which time, I'll start looking into creating a keccak version of the TRB tree.
asciilifeform: in other minor noose, 100% of blox since this morning on zoolag are from tbf/pizarro, with exception of 1, from mod6's 208.94.240.42.
asciilifeform: ( at pizarro, i mean )
diana_coman: and hm, it seems that it's more like ~all from one single node actually? (pizarro hosted, yes but is that the only one that is hosted by pizarro?)
asciilifeform: ^ spoiler/anticlimactic -- loox like just about all new blox on zoolag come from the pizarro noades
trinque: good investments oughta be able to drive new customers to pizarro for infrastructure.
ben_vulpes: pizarro seemed a) worthwhile endeavour b) could be let fail and the experiment run again c) had good odds of rescue mission succeeding for a time.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 02:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the seed funding it provided for pizarro for instance seems a very legitimate approach, "if your project has merit you get a little bit from foundation, helps other people commit." this works well in pantsuitlands too, but i suspect because it;s sound objectively.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the seed funding it provided for pizarro for instance seems a very legitimate approach, "if your project has merit you get a little bit from foundation, helps other people commit." this works well in pantsuitlands too, but i suspect because it;s sound objectively. ☟︎
mod6: People contribute, and do things. It would be very nice to have more consistant help with testing and other things. It hasn't been too bad just doing it myself, but with Pizarro in the picture (esepcially when was acting manager), having to do it all was hard.
asciilifeform: and that dun look like pizarro !
mod6: Only thing I've been held back by is lack of time as I've been way overwhelemed by all of the Pizarro work.
trinque: 161.0.121.248 << this appears to be the pizarro box, eh?
mod6: 's box at Pizarro.
asciilifeform: mod6: i thought it was moved to pizarro ?!
BingoBoingo: Orc paper hell is orc paper hell, but once this bitch gets digested it seems like it will open up slow boating piles of shit in from China when Pizarro grows to the point we can use that.
trinque: asciilifeform: hate to report that I just noticed my pizarro box (running aggression) was sitting there doing absolutely nothing for about 4k blox
mod6: ben_vulpes: plz to bring back mimi to #pizarro for logging
mod6: Pizarro is looking to purchase some fiat for next month. Please reach out to me if you would like to sell some dollars! Thanks in advance. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-22 18:47 asciilifeform: ( simple algo: you send a packet to 'adult' (i.e. pizarro) box, and it echoes your nat's external ephemeral port, and other folx can udp ~to~ that, while you keep it alive )
asciilifeform: ( simple algo: you send a packet to 'adult' (i.e. pizarro) box, and it echoes your nat's external ephemeral port, and other folx can udp ~to~ that, while you keep it alive ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it all sprung out from the "how would the deedbot pizarro service look like" consideration.
mircea_popescu: i guess "this cat not worth the skinning", in general, maybe. sure, not like the current model is that broken. but if you're going to support things like #pizarro, deedbot pming new names is way the fuck better than pizarro website or sales funnel including a "and then send !!up to deebot" etc.
PeterL: at least now I can join #pizarro, but still can't talk there
mod6: Also folks, Pizarro needs to purchase some fiat, so if you're interested, can start up an auction if you like, or can do WU or whatever. Minimum $500, please. Let us know if interested. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: And ya, would love to have #pizarro open and welcoming to everyone. I turned off the restrictions this AM and within 3 minutes, guy came in and shit in the foyer.
BingoBoingo: PeterL: mod6 is worried about Allah spam in #pizarro
PeterL: why is #pizarro invite only, are not potential customers pointed there by the website?
mod6: Thanks deedbot. TMSR~: The Pizarro August report is finally out, thanks for your patience with me for getting this completed.
PeterL: is there a process to get voiced in #pizarro?
asciilifeform: at some point i'd like to get a bigendian box of some description into pizarro , for such work
mod6: TMSR~ : Update on the Pizarro report for August. I have completed the Liabilities table after some discussion with ben_vulpes, and it is currently in a final-draft form. Upon approval of this draft, we will post it to the pizarroisp.net site.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-9-11#427276 << whole log of the hunt, for reference .
a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 15:37 lobbes: ftr, this was the -exact- issue I was having (403 errors on www, no ssh, but could ping fine. Whatever BingoBoingo did for me then worked like a charm though.) http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-9-11#427159 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846123
lobbes: ftr, this was the -exact- issue I was having (403 errors on www, no ssh, but could ping fine. Whatever BingoBoingo did for me then worked like a charm though.) http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-9-11#427159 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846123 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: do me a favour and add #Do not change this if you're not entirely sure ; talk in #pizarro to make sure ; messing up the routing will cost you your reputation.
asciilifeform: http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-good-neighbor-policy/
mircea_popescu: so basically what's the idea here, "do not edit /etc/conf.d/net without checking with #pizarro" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:53 ben_vulpes: douchebag: pizarro board has serious reservations about your fucking up our honorsystem ip routing table and bringing dos/whatever hell down upon our little gated community, can i extract a commitment from you to not misbehave in my cab?
asciilifeform: nope, current pizarro policy is that users are to refrain from interfering with others.
mircea_popescu: a large portion of why people are stuck paying that $$$ ; and i guess pizarro will too ?
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG all pizarro rockchip customers ! if you modified your /etc/conf.d/net , in recent 2 weeks, plz say ! asciilifeform currently suspects that somebody munged theirs, and it may account for diana_coman's unreachable box, we may have to take the pilot plant down for maintenance and manually dig, if nobody says anyffing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the puzzler is, how to knock out the crutch. or persuade the sufferer to part with it on own power ? pizarro is isp, not psychiatric clinic
asciilifeform: these are god's own pizarro customers. where are they.
mircea_popescu: in #Pizarro on Freenode. << link to webthing mqay help
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo : "Pizarro servers do not employ BMC, nor always-on KVM setups. We do not disassemble servers for any reason, so feel free to seal your boxes. Account management is done through RSA process, do not expect that you can sidestep loss of your key through social engineering. Burn Microshit, burn." ?
BingoBoingo: http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << First run at the prose
mircea_popescu: republic in being. very much the same mechanism as in "you don't need a buncha paperwork for pizarro, the forum can resolve disputes for you anyway"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : imho we oughta add a 'we do not use bmc's' statement to the pizarro www .
deedbot: Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.03335804 << Pizarro Invoice for Quarterly RockChip rental through December 31st 2018
mod6: !!invoice BingoBoingo 0.03335804 Pizarro Invoice for Quarterly RockChip rental through December 31st 2018
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, congrats on new position and looking forward to Pizarro's next moves to attract more customers
mod6: I'd like to commend ben_vulpes on his instructions that he gave to Pizarro for how to do the monthly report. It really got me through it -- and made it easy.
mod6: Also in the news, Pizarro has fully paid the "Wildcat Bonus" to BingoBoingo. The remainder was $2500. This has been shown on Pizarro statements in the "Fiat Liabilities" table. It will appear on the August statement as well. The payment was made September 1st. So look for that line to come off the fiat liabilities table when the September report is posted in early October.
mod6: Also, another bit of news: I've completed a draft of the Pizarro report. We're needed three more pieces of information and a second pair of eyes for review before it can be published. We're on it.
mod6: We have set a price point for the month at Pizarro as well, that price is: $6745 USD/BTC
mod6: In other news: Today is BingoBoingo's first day as Pizarro Manager. Congrats to him! We'll be working closely together to ensure a smooth transition over the next few months.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously, since we're apparently not selling the rockchip plant to pizarro : how about you build it and make it a "cyberflood master 9000" ?
mircea_popescu: there's nothing saying pizarro isn't building its own dc.
asciilifeform: i do know that many people's pest control setups rely on iptables, and so all new pizarro customers will get it by default. but imho it is a bitter pill.
Mocky: I'm getting "#pizarro :Cannot send to nick/channel" so will just drop this here: I created a dir named 'wwwhabeeb' in my shared hosting account. can you set me up to have domain mockyhabeeb.com be fed from that?
mircea_popescu: moreover, success/failure yes/no is not so much the point. pizarro bought the failed remains of the previous attempt, and so on.
lobbes: however I ended up purging the znc user and all traces from the thing. Coming live now from irssi from pizarro shared hosting (used danielpbarron's spiffy guide >> http://danielpbarron.com/2018/irssi-on-pizarro-shared-hosting/)