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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would not be opposed to selling off 1 of the 2 spares ( either for pizarro-credits, as mircea_popescu earlier sold FGs, or for coin, or come combination of the 2 )
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: once upon a time there was an s.nsa expense line for ~"servers for nascent isp", would you sell one or both of those to pizarro?
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-29#321883
hanbot: waiting for pizarro people to figure out php-mysql. from what i can tell they've been hacking at it all week.
ben_vulpes: douchebag: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro
ben_vulpes: btw douchebag are you following the shared hosting php saga in #pizarro?
trinque: 319899 blox on my pizarro node
mod6: The current thinking is that this server still here will be racked locally to make use of it; as soon as we have pricing, and maybe a less item of less value shipped successfully, we'll have this one couriered down to Pizarro.
mod6: So here I am writing up the SoBA, looking for a log reference to where either I or ben_vulpes said that only *one* of The Foundation's Two (newly bought servers for Pizarro racking) made it down there.
asciilifeform: achtung any and all phpists : plox to see thread in #pizarro
mod6: diana_coman: thanks for your careful reading of the Pizarro Feb statement, the error has been corrected, I believe.
mod6: jurov^ The above is a Pizarro invoice for services rendered to The Bitcoin Foundation during the Month of March. Please remit the amount indicated to the address indicated in the deed. Thanks in advance! Please let me know if you have any questions.
lobbes: I could always just slap up a separate gribble instance with this new pizarro shell tho. May be the cleanest that way actually.
mircea_popescu: pizarro.net/pi also 404s, for instance
diana_coman: uhm, page not found? link should be http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ (without index.php)
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/03/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << PizzaroISP - Pizarro Shared Hosting - a screaming deal for 0.003 BTC/mo!
mod6: BingoBoingo: re !!down that man. I don't have time to read through all this nonsense to pick out 3 important lines to pizarro.
mircea_popescu: i suppose a logical next step for pizarro is to have a bot dedicated to listing who's on boxes, what the load is like etc.
lobbes: Ah okay. Thank you asciilifeform, this http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788767 satisfied my http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317425 inquiry sufficiently ☝︎
ben_vulpes: yo trinque can i get you to opine on http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317403 please
ben_vulpes: !~later tell hanbot drop by #pizarro sometime soon and opine re http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317360 please
mircea_popescu: now on to the issue of the vps. is pizarro coming up with something in short enough order it's worth having the whole genesis mp-wp wait on it, or rather should more business go away and hanbot pick herself yet another rando vps host ?
ben_vulpes: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/02/pizarro-statement-february-2018 updated, and mircea_popescu your last comment very belatedly replied to
deedbot: diana_coman rated BingoBoingo 3 << Qntra and Pizarro ISP; moved to Uruguay for TMSR and learnt a LOT in the process; best hired hands I saw at work around in a long while
a111: Logged on 2018-03-05 05:41 mircea_popescu: well, this is a fundamental, at least to me, service pizarro is offering, GENUINE raid. ie, raid installed by republican hands out of genuine components etc.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, how many fg-s was the s.mg server with pizarro meant to have?
mod6: now (there are links to me doing so in #pizarro) I have locked the modes to +cnt for now.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-15 15:22 ben_vulpes: mod6: can ya fix voice in #pizarro? asciilifeform reports cannot send to channel
ben_vulpes: mod6: can ya fix voice in #pizarro? asciilifeform reports cannot send to channel ☟︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes i am getting 'cannot sent to channel' eggog in #pizarro
ben_vulpes: (in reference to the february pizarro statement and comment http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/02/pizarro-statement-february-2018/comment-page-1/#comment-24 )
ben_vulpes: ( http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-14#312455 )
trinque: at any rate, this needs a longer look. we don't need to be going "oh upstream broke us" again in a month. meanwhile I don't want to hold anyone up setting up a pizarro box.
trinque: since we're discussing cuntoo in pizarro, and it's more generally relevant, I'm moving the thread here.
trinque: I'd like to know the cheeky bastard that invites him *after* Pizarro gets rolling.
mircea_popescu: well, this is a fundamental, at least to me, service pizarro is offering, GENUINE raid. ie, raid installed by republican hands out of genuine components etc. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: that box is hosting both qntra and pizarro's web presence, and then on top of that it's splitting a 1u with another piece of hardware (right BingoBoingo ?), so something hilarious like .003 btc this month? i was planning to host it as a service to the republic tbh, especially since the machine it's on is running pizarro's website as well
mircea_popescu: so something like "pizarro incorporated, issued 1`100`000 shares with a par value of 100 satoshi each, subscribed by mod6 (500`000) ; asciilifeform (500`000) and TBF (100`000)" would be more in the regular form of these things.
mod6: ah, yeah, it's slightly more grey than the others. stars here: jurov: ben_vulpes: and the foundation loan == Stock Warrant #1 in pizarro's report?
mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-2#310298
mod6: mircea_popescu: Can I get your opinion on this quick regarding the Charter for Pizarro?
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=19 << PizzaroISP - Pizarro Statement, February 2018
mod6: One thing, I don't think I ever mentioned yet; I intend to fill The Bitcoin Foundation's board seat on Pizarro's board. Unless anyone objects to this.
ben_vulpes: mod6: i'll do the 5 for 0.7838890 btc; that's a 10% markup from pizarro's cost plus ~20usd for shipping
mircea_popescu: mod6 so is pizarro gonna sell you things at cost ?!
ben_vulpes: having wallet commands would be handy, unless mircea_popescu wants to see pizarro invoices/payments in #trilema
mircea_popescu: i suppose if you actually make the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784956 item then that'd prolly want its own #pizarro list ; but also by now it's such a complex piece of gnarl might even want to separate a rss-bot out of deedbot ☝︎
trinque: don't know if that's interesting to pizarro, but it's coming.
ben_vulpes: sweet trinque does that mean i can get deedbot in #pizarro then?
mod6: <@deedbot> http://pizarroisp.net/?p=7 << PizzaroISP - Pizarro, incorporated! << cheers!
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=7 << PizzaroISP - Pizarro, incorporated!
mod6: (Not to be confused with the 10 that Pizarro needs a quote for)
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785673 << makes sense, i just published the gear Pizarro has for hire immediately. i can either lease you that box *or* a vps on it :\ immediately, but i'll also be running more boxes down in the near future ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 15:32 mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 : given teh centrality of teh work he's doing, do you suppose teh foundation could be prevailed upon to give lobbes a grant so he can get himself a shiny dedicated box with pizarro ? could for instance http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785458 work as teh application ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 : given teh centrality of teh work he's doing, do you suppose teh foundation could be prevailed upon to give lobbes a grant so he can get himself a shiny dedicated box with pizarro ? could for instance http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785458 work as teh application ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes for instance ; or machines pizarro thinks are worth racking, with pros and cons. or anything really.
mod6: also to go along with pizarro's hardware, etc.
mod6: 3) Pizarro to signoff on 2U reserved for The Foundation.
ben_vulpes: hey mod6 if there's demand for boxes, would you be averse to selling the machines we got for the foundation to pizarro for leasing on? we can always get another couple of machines, it's not as though the two we bought for the foundation are super important to get racked right now; i'm sure other folks might be willing to rent 'em out and that'd be a great thing for pizarro's cashflow
ben_vulpes: not yet, still wrapping up the first courier run. when you say gearlist, you mean "machines Pizarro is buying and will lease out"?
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 << PizzaroISP - Provisional Charter for Pizarro
ben_vulpes: trinque: can i get the pizarro website's rss feed added to deedbot?
ben_vulpes: trinque and anyone else interested in colocating with Pizarro, here's a draft contract for review: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/MBQmX/?raw=true
mod6: Alright, fixed. Link is the same as before: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/pizarro_charter_genesis.vpatch.mod6.sig
mod6: Here's my detached sig: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/pizarro_charter_genesis.vpatch.mod6.sig
mod6: !!deed http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/charter.txt.asc
asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pizarro_charter.asciilifeform.txt
ben_vulpes: !!deed http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/pizarro_charter.ben_vulpes.asc
mod6: I'll link my questions in #pizarro.
mod6: "asciilifeform, mod6, and the chairmen of The Bitcoin Foundation will each appoint one board member, hire ben_vulpes to manage Pizarro, and hire BingoBoingo to perform remote hands labor."
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6, all interested in the evolution of Pizarro's corporate structure please to review http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5
mod6: I hope that it would be an initial amount that will get pizarro off the launch pad.
mircea_popescu: quite literally, "measure to so and so is coming before pizarro board ; ben_vulpes is voting x, mod6 is voting y, foundation should vote z according to so and so considerations..."
mod6: What I think is that it maybe clearer, better for Pizarro to have private investment -- especially since the two co-chairs are also going to be involved in either "management" or "board seats".
mod6: trinque: to me, it's not that expendature is inappropriate, that's not what I'm saying. I think trying to help Pizarro get off the launch pad is a great thing for the Foundation to do.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 16:45 mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again, as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole?"
ben_vulpes: trinque: i maintain that the expenditures to date have been appropriate and legitimate, but am compelled by mod6's argument that actually embroiling the foundation in the ownership of Pizarro complicates it unnecessarily
mod6: trinque: This is a very good question, and so far, other than Pizarro, adds up to 1 renewal of a domain name.
mod6: What I'm offering, if it is more palatable, is for me to return the Foundation's money and make that whole again, and instead offer up a 5 BTC private / or gift to Pizarro.
mod6: When thinking about how to re-structure, or re-word some of the Pizarro Charter, it becomes way simpler, and easier with The Bitcoin Foundation out of the equation. And probably would provide for a better structure, a more sound structure, perhaps.
mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again, as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole?" ☟︎
mod6: So reading through some of the comments, questions, concerns rasised by mircea_popescu, and diana_coman, I started thinking yesterday that maybe -- since there are specifically hard-to-draw lines between mod6's role as Foundation Co-Chair, ben_vulpes's role as Foundation Co-Chair and their roles as ``managers'' or ``management'' in Pizarro ...
mircea_popescu: such a fine rant it was, too! however, i looked over teh pizarro logs, an' there's evidently no room for it. so good for you! my poor rant, now has nowhere to go an' nothing to do ;/
ben_vulpes: phf: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-2-18#305493
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 17:45 ben_vulpes: (not to derail, but i've moved the Pizarro provisional charter to http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 , comments actively sought from eg diana_coman hanbot mircea_popescu lobbes )
hanbot: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-2-1#304871
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 01:18 mod6: Also, all, the log for #pizarro is here: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro
ben_vulpes: (not to derail, but i've moved the Pizarro provisional charter to http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 , comments actively sought from eg diana_coman hanbot mircea_popescu lobbes ) ☟︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-18#1784582 << >> http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro ☝︎
hanbot: <ben_vulpes> attn all, here's a draft of the new articles of organization for what was BISP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5yUZ/?raw=true excoriate away << cool, thanks for posting. so: i would very much like to support bbisp/Pizarro, and I think it's great the foundation picked this up. while i think the particulars will likely prove challenging, i would have no problem putting faith, time, etc behind mod6 and ben_vulpes. a few weeks ago, that wo
mod6: Sure, feel free to stop into #pizarro or follow along in the logs!
mod6: Also, all, the log for #pizarro is here: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro ☟︎
mod6: Pizarro, The Republican ISP's offical channel is now: #pizarro