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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nothing against 's.nsa owns 10%' scenario, early in the game it was a much-needed breathing room for pizarro. but would like to avoid the situation of the well-known children's physics demo, with the two connected balloons.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, an' ftr, if your concern is that you're underweight pizarro, you can just as well do a second round. see if mod6 wants to either a) give it more btc or else b) move into a minority position. pizarro would certainly benefit from a larger piggy giving it more solidity etc, so you can do another 10-20 round either by yourself if mod6 is agreeable or else match together or any which old way. this isn't an u

mircea_popescu: or else universe 2, whereby chassis for pizarro is produced by you as free agent. in this world we have to now explain what nsa actually is, which becomes a rather difficult task, and pizarro will have to sell its bonds on market, to whatever discount.

mircea_popescu: practically the situation here is this : we can either live in universe 1, whereby chassis for pizarro is produced by you for nsa, and sold by nsa to pizarro. in this world nsa stays what it always was, as above, and pizarro can (at practically your option, as i can go either way) pay with undiscounted bonds for cash-equivalent mateirals ;

asciilifeform: the 'i dun like the endgame' observation was specifically in re the scenario where s.nsa ends up swallowing pizarro.

asciilifeform: this isn't actually the problem, pizarro ( and other l1 folx ! thank you ! ) supplied asciilifeform in recent times with 100% of the btc-buying opportunities he can digest

mircea_popescu: well how much pizarro has in the way of cash isn't changed by ooooh i see the problem, you hafta recirculate this is it ?

asciilifeform: i will admit however that i dun particularly like the endgame i see in this, where let's say s.nsa sponsors, produces, and sells to pizarro the iron for shares, ends up owning ~100% of pizarro, and asciilifeform doesn't see a dime of profit until ( merely for starters ) he can even afford mpex acct ( which is a major if, rather than a when, it is quite possibly that neither i nor anyone else will ever actually earn 50 btc , and this

mircea_popescu: yes, but what's the significant problem with nsa selling pizarro custom built chassisen ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea is that a working ( built out, and populated ) pizarro, could , in principle, eventually free asciilifeform from the unspeakable nonsense on which he burns most of his time currently.

a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 05:03 mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform is nsa fabricating chassisen for pizarro ? or is asciilifeform of his own independent self ?

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-16 02:22 lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered

mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform is nsa fabricating chassisen for pizarro ? or is asciilifeform of his own independent self ? ☟︎

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: for the love of all that is holy i hope you mean "pizarro bought all teh extant fg" and not "all the fg that will ever be already are"

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-16 02:22 lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered

trinque is willing to buy btc via pizarro again, as he has already.

lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered

lobbes: mircea_popescu, well, optimally I'd be buying a little btc every certain frequency. Just converted some fiat a month or so ago though buying for pizarro

mircea_popescu: you think amazon doesn't have exactly the same problems as pizarro ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, might be an idea to put the fellow on the pizarro warrants list, considering impact.

mircea_popescu: mod6, one way of looking at it is, "pizarro finds l1's in exile". you know ? "<h1>Pizarro</h1><h3>Welcome Home.</h3>"

mod6: I'm just trying to figure out if Pizarro has enough cash to get 48 of these down there.

mircea_popescu: i have nfi how this works, but pizarro seems to be getting ever less for ever more money.

asciilifeform: fact of the matter is, for the price of pizarro rockchip, heathen can get 5x the cpu with 10x the bandwidth in heathendom. how to persuade him to instead buy this ?

mircea_popescu: the problem as far as i discern it is, "not only there's no conversation going, but the mutism threatens to entrench itself as a 'way to be', and it's not sustainable". when's the last time pizarro talked to anyone ? gotta talk to people, somehow, somewhere. silence is a first approximation of death.

mod6: I believe this is probably a good way to get Pizarro into better financial shape, but it's hard for me to imagine how this works.

mod6: And I guess, it is not up to me how Mr. Vulpes wants to track these things for Pizarro, however, if I'm asked to make decisions, I EXPECT that these things are clear, in plain language.

ben_vulpes: i'm going to do it in postgres; should be a lot easier to get php to do both the mysql for the pizarro mpwp and the postgres for deedbot than to port deedbot to mysql

ben_vulpes: mk, makin some progress on the pizarro accounting/assettracking db

mod6: not even seems like, did report errors. see #pizarro.

mod6: (all the details are in #pizarro)

ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production

mod6: asciilifeform: I did bring back tb0t here. I think I just forgot to restart it after some planned downtime on my host. Anyway, if we wanted to use it for Pizarro, I'm open to that but it may need some alterations.

ben_vulpes: user decrypts, leaks, their problem. set a session key, broadcast data unencrypted, leak is pizarro's fault

asciilifeform: and ditto if you have a rsa key, and a set of captured outputs of www....pizarro/$fp/ , you can match'em up

asciilifeform: ( if you have a set of $fp values, you can enumerate which have acct at pizarro )

asciilifeform: pizarro/$fp leaks just the same, neh?

ben_vulpes: but, and many details not designed at this rate since you press me, something along the lines of pizarro/$fp/ renders an encrypted account status including support tickets

asciilifeform: well it wouldn't be a pizarro wot identity ( multi-owner privkeys are problematic ) but rather a ' ben_vulpes-pizarro '

ben_vulpes: i've been thinking about a pizarro wot identity, yes

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if $luser won't irc, how is he to access pizarro for support/maintenance/payment q's ?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: prospective pizarro user gets into wot. so there's the key.

ben_vulpes: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/05/04/pizarro-statement-april-2018/ << updated

BingoBoingo: !Q later tell pete_dushenski I forgot to ask... Did you want to rack a time standard of some sort with Pizarro? A lot are already 19in 1U rackmount. Can plug it into a rockchip.

mod6: Who wants to rent the last Rockchip available rockchip @ Pizarro? Let us know! First come, first serve.

BingoBoingo: But yeah, in the Pizarro rack would be insanity. For miners in Uruguay to work it would be necessary to take the dam at Salto and mine with the power that would have gone to the Argentine side.

danielpbarron: i just gave a shoutout to pizarro on l0de

ben_vulpes: time is not on pizarro's side.

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-17 14:23 ascii_lander: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-17#336946 << ben_vulpes, imho this is starvation-level lowball. your figures do not factor in the cost of ~building out~ the plant, i.e. building new rockchiptrons.

ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-17#337036

lobbes: Tickerbot will also live there, once it is built. But it is great. I was up and running in no time! I dare anyone to find individualized customer on the level of Pizarro. Try it yourself and you will see immediately what I mean. They offer month-to-month if you just want to try, with discounts for quarterly payments once you feel comfortable << see? sales pitch

mircea_popescu: nevertheless, pizarro absolutely needs a star salesman.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly i'd start planning for the next trip. understand the simple fact of the matter : if you manage to get pizarro 300 rockchips racked, you've produced at least a coupla bitcoin's value for it.

mircea_popescu: how many fgs does pizarro even have ? like 50 or so ?

deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/05/04/pizarro-statement-april-2018/ << PizzaroISP - Pizarro Statement, April 2018

asciilifeform: lobbes, other trbists : another thing that worx, is the combo of pizarro node piped through a cheapo heathen relay-only box.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it would not be inconceivable either pizarro or nsa buys some real estate in that town, i guess.

a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:04 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month

mod6: And by all means, use whatever language in #trilema; I'm referring to when discussing pizarro proposals with me in particular. Too many mental gymnastics otherwise.

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object; pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift.

ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object; pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift. ☟︎

asciilifeform: pizarro is exactly the sort of thing where it shines. many, many small and mechanical fixes that need tracking.

asciilifeform: mod6: can i persuade you to revv it up in #pizarro ?

mod6: And aside from that, I'm not opposed outright to this, but before we start handing out more money, I'd like to see where Pizarro stands as far as how much further we need to go to break-even, etc.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and yes it was orcish. but it was an uncomfortable place for asciilifeform , d00d spent ~week busting his arse helping asciilifeform , and prior to that -- half yr building up pizarro, and he cannot afford new shoelaces.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: it is greatly appreciated. And there's still a lot of adult business/figuring out exactly what pizarro is going on, which is why I have been letting it slide. But being several months into this venture the silence on this issue from the rest of the board is a sore spot, I have no idea if it is a thing they are even considering.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-24 15:20 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, do you see it as a mid term you use pizarro as your springboard to move in uy, releasing BingoBoingo into my hand for further adventures ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, consider though -- we actually have unmatched synergy here too. if you turn usg moolah here and then lose it to pay for eg pizarro rack, you got an engine!

mircea_popescu: tell you what : do trinque's thing ; then do the ssh/ssl thing ; then we can talk about you running this thing exactly like pizarro is run, why the hell not. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 23:07 asciilifeform has been racking brain to think of 'how to make pizarro hot in heathendom', so far no earthshaking breakthrough

asciilifeform: and perhaps also re other things that ben_vulpes, trinque , wants-badly, and would-buy, that could live in pizarro...

asciilifeform has been racking brain to think of 'how to make pizarro hot in heathendom', so far no earthshaking breakthrough ☟︎

ben_vulpes: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << updooted with FG rental pricing

trinque: the +1 requirement has worked well for voice here, probably holds for "guest of castle pizarro"

ben_vulpes: Mocky: link to an ssh key in #pizarro please

lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:07:03: <mircea_popescu> tell you what, i'll buy you shared hosting on pizarro's server for the rest of the year, you get a blog up there and publish the foregoing. how about that ?

deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.51144476 << pizarro refill ( usd: 1800 BB + 36 wu.fee + 2934.06 latech co. + 50 wr.fee )

asciilifeform: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.51144476 pizarro refill ( usd: 1800 BB + 36 wu.fee + 2934.06 latech co. + 50 wr.fee )

mod6: The Foundation's node @ Pizarro is fully sync'd I'm please to report.

ben_vulpes: pizarro report to go out tomorrow; chasing down one last invoice

asciilifeform: at any rate it's quite doable from pizarro, just will take roughly 10x as long as Framedragger's took, per my reckonin

mircea_popescu: bw not a consideration here ; packets are. and you want to find out anyway. consider it free pizarro stresstesting.

ben_vulpes: hey gabriel_laddel now that you've got a job and everything, how about a bouncer on the pizarro shared host?

asciilifeform: BigTexasBingo has been doing a most fine job of pizarro-resident, deserves some raise.

mircea_popescu: a ok, so you billed pizarro for those. i see i see.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are 2 sections, sect. 1 is for pizarro, sect 2 for snsa

mircea_popescu: the only unclear part to me is the rockchips. nsa never paid you to buy them ; nor was paid for pizarro to acquire them. i imagine this was a side deal ?

mircea_popescu: he bought two boxes -- the minigame box and the spare. and he paid 0.5 in pizarro bonds.

mircea_popescu: basically asciilifeform the story is incomputable : you cost 1/4 btc to fly over some gear (which iirc cost us .6 ?) of which half we sold to pizarro for ~.5 in equity. figure it out if you can o.O

mircea_popescu: a that's right, pizarro never paid cash, we got bonds.

deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.24737591 << asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport works

asciilifeform: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.24737591 asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport works

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, basically this is because snsa is paying you to deliver its gear there and also sold pizarro some gear on the trip, right ?

asciilifeform: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.24737591 asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport ( see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807162 manifest ) , inclusive of the iron repurchased earlier by pizarro ( i dun recall if the transport cost was part of the purchase, if it wasn't , plox to rebill ben_vulpes et al ) ☝︎

deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.02 << 2 x 3ware RAID cards (1 in http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309820 , 1 for smg spare and currently stored in orig packaging in the rack bilge )

asciilifeform: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.02 2 x 3ware RAID cards (1 in http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309820 , 1 for smg spare and currently stored in orig packaging in the rack bilge )

lobbes: Pizarro folx, would rockchip box be enough juice for the above? And is it still $75 for a quarter?

asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, asciilifeform found himself wondering, why we're still on fleanode... between pizarro, mircea_popescu's racked boxes ( idk where, but presumably good ones ? ) , asciilifeform's own fiber, trinque , etc. could have a very solid irc net, potentially ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i specifically don't want it on asciilifeform 's plate because i'm hoping that he and ave1 can actually get gpr work for irl purposes. if i manage to get eulora server off the fsf toolchain it'll be such a win the likes of which i hadn't dared hope for last year. between that and getting pizarro off the ground he has plenty, and not readily replaceable.