a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 23:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ?
hanbot: ty asciilifeform. BingoBoingo also take a look?
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem. maybe could be had warmer, but not clear that can be done without elongation. terseness' is a virtue, as ~nobody reads anymore.
mircea_popescu: just as long as we're clear "media-wannabes" includes everyone, from washpo and guardian to what have you.
mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta get that girl a real machine now, so she can actually v and stuff.
hanbot: mircea_popescu we're clear.
mod6: jesus mary and joseph
mod6: "looks good to me" ?!
mod6: This is the first chance I've had to even read this trustnodes article
mod6: Yeah, I wanted to get a bit of background here before I do. On-deck next :]
mod6: now I get mp's -10 on thebluematt
BingoBoingo: hanbot: ty, reading. Just got back from epic beachwalk
mod6: hanbot: Thank you, I really like both of these. I don't think I would change a word. Nice job!
mod6: I also, really appreciate you stepping up to help me out. Seriously.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Looks really good. I can't think of changes which would keep it something that might get bites.
mod6: mircea_popescu: Maybe the Foundation could pay for the machine, since she'll be doing work on behalf of the Foundation?
mod6: Ok, just thought I'd offer.
mod6: All, an update from Pizarro: The price point that Pizarro will be using for the month of October is $6170 per BTC.
mod6: We're willing to purchase more fiat at some point later in the month of course.
trinque: gotta say, I'm eventually going to cancel my service if this "we pulled the price out of our asses, and here it is" thing doesn't turn into a process somebody surfaces on a blog somewhere.
☟︎ trinque: I thought the point of doing business in a WoT was to avoid that kind of thing.
mod6: It was not pulled out of our "asses". We had a difficult time finding takers to sell us fiat this month. Late in the game, we came to a price point with jurov. This was the quoted amount.
trinque: you came to a price point with jurov where?
mod6: This was conducted behind closed doors.
mod6: trinque: hopefully lobbes' auction bot will be available next month.
trinque: this prevents jurov from saying "I jurov bid $x for $y" here?
mircea_popescu: mod6 is the idea jurov could not have done what i did,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-27#1837995 specifically, because... what is it, he's decided not to speak in channel anymore and you had tjhe option of either forcing the point or getting the dough ? or is this just terribly mismanaged altogether, or what ?
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-07-27 16:33 mircea_popescu: !Qauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0
mod6: So here's what went down.
mod6: Last few months, jurov took a heavy hit on FX when he would quote us, send the wires, and then we would finally send him the coins at the end. He also was apparently butting up against some possible fiat limits.
mod6: Since we were getting a bit desperate to get some fiat purchased, I offered to him to send the coins first, and he could mitigate that FX risk. We worked out the details in a PGP.
mircea_popescu: is there some advantage i'm not seeing to the approach ?
mod6: I'd love to do this a different way. I just felt like, other than alf spending money that he had saved for a possible emergency trip, we didn't have a lot of other options.
mircea_popescu: you had no options other than to keep things quiet that you knew sooner or later will have to make public and also knew the people you'll make them public to will take a dim view of your keeping them secret ?
mod6: I actually didn't think it was any big deal, as previous months I had made these deals behind closed doors with jurov as wel.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if you do manage to lose his custom, that's what, 1/3 of your income ?
trinque: mod6: suppose I start charging you deposit fees on deedbot *arbitrarily*
trinque: and notice that I don't, because wtf?
mircea_popescu: how do i lean on him, "trinque, stick with the republican isp!" "but mp, LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BABY!". what do i say at that juncture ?
mod6: I will back away from all of this going forward. I'll let BingoBoingo handle this.
mod6: I apologize trinque.
trinque: what's with the angular responses? just do business here in the forum where it belongs.
mod6: I'm sorry, I was just acting to do what I thought was best for Pizarro and it's customers. I seem to be getting it wrong, somehow.
trinque: I could've weighed the decision to buy against your discount, which would've put you in a better position than your deal with jurov, and meanwhile saved you from the perception that you're not all that clued in on what the forum does.
mircea_popescu: in fairness to jurov (whom, knowing the man, i can readily believe took a fx beating), wouldn't his implicit donation deserve the implicit recognition ?
trinque: I suppose all I know about jurov right now is silence, which is a related problem.
trinque has an extremely heavy meatspace life, but checks in every time he can
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:04 mod6: Also folks, Pizarro needs to purchase some fiat, so if you're interested, can start up an auction if you like, or can do WU or whatever. Minimum $500, please. Let us know if interested.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-23 01:43 mod6: Pizarro is looking to purchase some fiat for next month. Please reach out to me if you would like to sell some dollars! Thanks in advance.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 16:30 mod6: We still need fiat, any takers?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hand cranked auction has long history of being a thing
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: aside from the problem where mod6 proclaimed one on 17th and nobody came forward << This is a problem
BingoBoingo: But bot auction can also recieve deafening silence from bidders
trinque: "and anyway if I asked her she'd just say no"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:04 mod6: Also folks, Pizarro needs to purchase some fiat, so if you're interested, can start up an auction if you like, or can do WU or whatever. Minimum $500, please. Let us know if interested.
trinque: if this is working for you just fine, keep it.
trinque: I would've preferred to know of jurov's bid, so I could counter
trinque: gotta let the money work neh?
mod6: The bid came in yesterday evening
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo, mod6 : trinque is entirely right , bids oughta be open strictly. << Open bidding going forward. Bot or no bot.
mod6: We needed to get the ball rolling here, I went with it. I did ask you if you wanted to buy some, but you declined.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this thing with the bot seems to satisfy me only. is it truly impossible to sell chunks of fiat for some reason ?
mircea_popescu: so if jurov has a chunk of fiat, he can offer it and pizarro can bid and i guess trinque could bid more if he wanted to. this is dysfunctional ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 00:13 mod6: i'm just saying, doing it 'botless'. like I say, "this auction is open for 72 hours, closes on X date at X time. Selling 1 BTC for USD. Winner of auction sends whatever wires seller specifies."
a111: Logged on 2018-07-27 16:33 mircea_popescu: !Qauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 19:00 mircea_popescu: lobbes forum schmorum, if you de-ecu it ima kick it off #eulora and have someone else make a different one.
trinque: mod6: you did ask me in private, which I appreciate, but that's not how I'd prefer to do this, as per all the ^
mircea_popescu: afaik all you get is reverse auction (at a significant later date, once he's well done with rewriting the whole thing).
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> afaik all you get is reverse auction (at a significant later date, once he's well done with rewriting the whole thing). << This is what I recall. Reverse auction denominated in ECU
☟︎ mircea_popescu: entirely not clear to me what's blocking about this. what's blocing about this ?
trinque: and it's not as though I can't eat +-5%, but why, when learned folks have a process for narrowing those kinds of gaps, and don't need a bot to do it.
mod6: After for sure. I don't have the exact date, but I'd say it was in the last week of september -- I reached out to a few people directly since I wasn't getting any takers in either #pizarro or #trielam.
mircea_popescu: can't say " !Qauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0" because gotta say !Qrauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0 instead ?
trinque: maybe I hear jurov's bid and I say fuck it, my next month's btc purchase happens today instead.
mircea_popescu: to translate the difference between "i'm selling 8k fiats" and "i wish to buy 8k fiats" ? is the specificity of ammounts on pizarro side such a huge deal for you lot ?
mircea_popescu: i had formed the impression the main problem's finding lots, not cutting them to specified sizes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect what might've happened is that ~everyone is waiting indefinitely for arbitrary and unexamined expectations to be satisfied, and no public discussion available to remedy this.
mircea_popescu: the way the auction works, is that you can currently sell any one thing you wish, for ecu, which are these account bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: the way the auction will work, is that you will be able to both sell and buy any one thing you wish, also for ecu.
mircea_popescu: what this development buys you is NOT that "i can now trade fiats", but that "i can now buy SPECIFIC lots of fiat, whereas before i was stuck bidding on whatever lots someone offered".
mircea_popescu: it ~seems to me~ this difference is not worth a postage stamp, if indeed i understand the description of pizarro's situation mod6 is making correctly, that is, "we have trouble finding lots of fiat to buy, not finding exact chunks".
mircea_popescu: the way auction bot currently works, and has worked for 100s of auctions worth 10s of bitcoin, is that any one party with some fiat, can say "i have this much fiat and will let it go for no less than this much ecu".
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 00:19 mod6: ah, i see, so for instance trinque could say, "selling 4000 USD for ECU", exactly like yourself with the last one
mircea_popescu: this, as far as i can tell, is perfectly useful to pizarro as things stand now, and perfecly approachable to everyone, and a permanent solution to the record and advertisement requirements people have.
mircea_popescu: for SOME REASON you seem to be waiting for a (MUCH LATER) upgrade which would permit you to advertise ~i want to buy EXACTLY X fiats AND NO OTHER SUM NO MATTERE WHAT HAPPENS!!!~.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 19:00 mircea_popescu: lobbes forum schmorum, if you de-ecu it ima kick it off #eulora and have someone else make a different one.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding this doesn't seem to actually be your position -- you do not in fact have the option to so wait, because you may not engage in this course that fucks over the record keeping and advertising obligations you have.
mircea_popescu: all auctions must ~settle in something~. it is greatly beneficial to have unique settlement, on the basis of 100s of years of auctioning experiencve in teh commercial world. just like lloyds will trade in antique vases and modern soiled underpants, BUT ALWAYS SETTLE IT IN POUNDS, just so lobbesbot will deal in disgusting goop or unified dosidoes, but always settle in ecu.
mod6: I think, we'd be fine doing the reverse (if possible) of the log I linked above. "BUYING 1000 USD for ECU".
mircea_popescu: you're in this joining me, who's similarly not seen for a few months now.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:53 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> afaik all you get is reverse auction (at a significant later date, once he's well done with rewriting the whole thing). << This is what I recall. Reverse auction denominated in ECU
mircea_popescu: but for some reason quite square heads stuck with a collection of balls.
trinque: mod6: you've got it backwards. in this model I'd go list my available fiats alongside everybody else, is my understanding
mod6: Oh, I suppose it has to be the first way I linked then 'eh?
trinque: this would look like an ideal position for pizarro, as you'd have far more of a sense in advance what fiat you may be able to pick up.
mircea_popescu: it's possibly not the best thing, and yes work to better it is underway, but you seem to me in the position of the fellow who is starving with cheese in hand for lack of steak.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-27 16:33 mircea_popescu: !Qauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0
mircea_popescu: "i have 8200 fiats which i'm willing to wire, will take at least 1 btc for it"
mircea_popescu: to the undying shame (of the soi-dissant "banking system" foremost), that trade did not actually complete. but i daresay it did not complete because third parties idiocy, not because the auction mechanism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1bn ecu = 1 btc. 168 is hours to live, here 1 week. "wFF" is a symbol i ad-hoc'd, "wired filthy fiats". explained in the next line. q0 is just a joke as to the poor quality of the fiats in question, has no bearing in this context.
mircea_popescu: the great flexibility of this thing allows you to make your own symbols and so on, it's really well made.
trinque: what's the ecu to btc bridge, in-game, or requires another sale?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:24 trinque: gotta say, I'm eventually going to cancel my service if this "we pulled the price out of our asses, and here it is" thing doesn't turn into a process somebody surfaces on a blog somewhere.
mircea_popescu: because it'd run in the obvious -- "you don't like it, put some grease in, what's keeping you".
mod6: asciilifeform: well, that's just the thing. anyone who wanted to sell fiats, didn't start up an auction.
mircea_popescu: traditionally settlement was offered indistinctly in either format.
mircea_popescu: ecu is an ~account currency~. you know what those are ?
trinque: more or less what's sitting in the deedbot db
mod6: i pasted that log line above because i was hinting to readers "hey, if you want to buy pizarro's coins, this is how you do it." But no one even asked.
mircea_popescu: symbolic, abstractly defined denominations, like the roman empire's solidus, or what have you. they don't even have to exist to be used.
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe a lot of this isn't well understood, we got a situation of everything waiting for everything else.
mod6: yeah, i think as people see a few of these take place, it'll make a bit more sense.
trinque: mod6: the hinting thing doesn't work. put a blog post out and give direction, pizarro's process is to ...
mod6: any regular buyers of btc should just throw out an auction for some minimal amount. Say $500 USD, and once pizarro wins those aucutions, they'll get the hang of it.
mircea_popescu: well i think part of the problem may be he himself didn't well understand this before right now.
trinque: it's no problem; this is why I threw a friendly punch instead of quitting the service.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only important magic number is the 10e9 ecu = 1 btc value. otherwise the whole thing's open, you can just say i dunno, "will only take BTC" as a comment in the next line, or w/e.
mircea_popescu: in any case to date danielpbarron 's been on the ball facilitating conversions also.
mod6: It's already in motion. Sent him the coins yesterday.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't go back on a deal. but the past is the past, what's to keep you from doing more for the future.
mod6: Besides, we really need to get the money moving; even if we wanted to do an auction now, we need $5000.
mod6: I'm not confident that we could get that done as quickly as we need it. I did ask, a lot if people were interested. But no takers. But anyone is free to start up an auction now.
mod6: And we'd bid, because I'd like to have some extra cusion in our account down there.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i think that's very sensible, have some cash on hand jic.
mod6: I'd love it, make me a helluv a lot less nervous -- as I was for the last 10 days.
mircea_popescu: and i expect as the thing starts getting some history behind it, time intervals can narrow out, removing most of the fx unpleasantness.
mircea_popescu: and besides, a forwards btc market can't hurt anything.
trinque: lol, shift-q is remarkably close to ctrl-w
mircea_popescu: heck, half the fucking reason we even did pizarro was to get this going, if yo urecall.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever closes anything, and if they do why;'d they open it.
trinque: !Qauction 310080000 336 2000 usd WU
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 366 STARTED by trinque: 2000 usd WU Opening: 310080000 coppers Ending: 2018-10-19 02:32:35 UTC (336 hours)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 02:10 asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu dun actually have objection that the item being auctioned is not euloric ?
mircea_popescu: i don't have a ready list of the many varieties of items therein sold, maybe lobbes keeps it as part of his eventual marketing efforts, but anyway. it's known diversity.
mod6: !QBid 336 305763640
lobbesbot: mod6: Error: Auction Id # 336 has ended
mod6: oh, was looking at the '336' line from trinque. herp.
mod6: !QBid 366 305763640
lobbesbot: mod6: Error: Try bidding moar. Starting Bid is 310.08mn, you bid 305763640
mircea_popescu: (for all the interested parties : lobbesbot announces the current slate of auctions hourly in #eulora, and privately on request. see the very useful manual lobbes wrote for it.)
mod6: Oh, starting bid. Got it.
mod6: !QBid 366 310080000
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 366: 2000 usd WU Heard: 310.08mn from mod6 Ending: 2018-10-19 02:32:35 UTC (335 hours 53 mins)
mircea_popescu: hanbot do me a favour and add a wu thing for the fellows also. help the rocket along!
lobbes: btw bot also accepts abbreviations such as 'k' and 'mn' (e.g. !Qbid 366 310.08mn)
mod6: lol, thing tab-completes to the bot every time.
mod6: gets me on the regular
mircea_popescu: in point of fact this is a well oiled piece of machinery that we've fine tuned over year+ in the other hall.
lobbes: and to remind: this current bot also will only announce in #eulora (I'm still debating about where new bot should annouce)
mircea_popescu: lobbes you wanna do eulora-and-your-castle sorta thing ?
lobbes: mircea_popescu: yeah, was thinkinging of allowing it to sit in n number of castles
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, that'll only last till new deedbot :D
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 15:47 mircea_popescu: aaand considering it's been coupla weeks, trinque care to put an eta on it ?
mircea_popescu: in other ideas : anyone wanna get a toll free us number & redirect it to here ? seems the better way to work that whole "or call xxx" angle.
☟︎ jurov: Hello, I am not sitting on bag of fiat to seek auctioning it off, but when anyone in my wot comes like "halp!!!" i will help them sell coins if possible.
jurov: Next time if representative of public company does ask me this privately I'll go to forum. Lesson learned.
jurov: My offer was in this case 6170 USD/BTC, with fiat wire sent within a week.
diana_coman: aaand if I get it right, GNAT.CRC32 uses Ada.Streams.Stream_Element and it expects a String as input so overall it really sounds like back to GNAT.Sockets style, ugh
diana_coman: as one might tell, I'm looking into using CRC in smg.comms as per latest spec
ave1: diana_coman, gnat has system.CRC32, it consumes characters
diana_coman: ave1, ah, the gnat.crc32 is just the stream on top of system.crc32?
ave1: it looks like it yes
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, that's where I went after ave1 pointed out that the gnat.crc32 is just a stream-wrapper
diana_coman: I'm actually thinking whether to add a simple crc32(array of octets) -> unsigned_32 to EuCrypt; presumably it will be of larger utility anyway;
BingoBoingo: Since this is a "public" building it remains to be seen if the bulldozers come out like they did for the ancient squat on the other side of the impoverished north
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nah, listen, just implement a crc32. it's very simple indeed, i quited the polynomial used, just divide by it and keep the change.
mircea_popescu: we ~needed~ a republican crc32 anyway, it's useful and important, chapter head exactly like "we need a hash" or "we need a ffa", and i was aware extant code is not fit for pitching.
mircea_popescu: imo we should have lookup version first and foremost. but if diana_coman has the time/inclination, implemnenting both isn't the end of world anyway.
mircea_popescu: though honestly -- this might very well be a foundation item neh ?
mircea_popescu: certainly something the foundation could've been advertising itself as doing, lo these many years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he has a point, in that it's subpackaged.
mircea_popescu: you can;t get it packaged in less than lb, and usually kg, on intl market.
mircea_popescu: so in it being subunitary, it's properly called trivial.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "white gold" is rare here. Usually cocaine in Uruguay refers to "pasta base" outside of Punta Del Este
mircea_popescu: so it prolly doesn't even count as "a fifth of a pack", more like "a twelfth"
BingoBoingo: Plant's pickier. They call cannabis weed for a reason, just won't die
BingoBoingo: And somehow afficianados manage to still kill the plants
mircea_popescu: also very much what BingoBoingo says. coke's harder than wheat, weed's easier than thistle.
BingoBoingo: Happily grows and lives full life anywhere from roadside ditches to red solo cups in basements
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: From my understanding and interviews the more desirable cultivars are just as happy to live and grow. All the wank around them simply appears to be optimization problems.
BingoBoingo: Where they end up slow cooking plants like deli rotisserie chicken and scream "Too Hard"
mircea_popescu: nobody's cancelled that, by the way. get out, you're wasting your life.
mircea_popescu: bout three or four years after they started giving monsanto columbia's tax money for no reason.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aficianados also specifically want unfertilized flowers, so creating male free environments is another optimization wank drawing substantial faffs
mircea_popescu: but yes, he's also correct. most of the "difficulty" is forum-wank, whereby the kids that can ride a bike tell the kids underage watching in amazement what incredible skill it takes to ride a bike.
mircea_popescu: (i suspect the whole reason us culture is so gender-awkward, btw, is that sometime (in the 1880s ?) older kids told younger kids "how hard it is" and it stuck as part of the culture in that culture-less place.)
BingoBoingo: To be fair the latest western US forum wank on the subject is butane extraction of active ingredients from the lowers, while... ethanol extraction of the same active ingredients is rumoured to work. That wank is still prolly a good 2 to 5 years out from Uruguay though
mircea_popescu: dude of course tincture works. it has worked for ~500 years.
BingoBoingo: And yet... the folks keep rediscovering without reading
mircea_popescu: pretty much what got alchemy even started, iranians getting perfume extracted in dilute ethanol. TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO
mircea_popescu: strange notions of "essence" and "ousia" and what have you -- they're all euro reverberations of "middle earth got this perfume thing going!?!?!?!"
BingoBoingo prolly ought to try compiling general tourist information/anthropology overview on the subject
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 16:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking...
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 08:48 mircea_popescu: in other ideas : anyone wanna get a toll free us number & redirect it to here ? seems the better way to work that whole "or call xxx" angle.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the point is the cannabis forum wankers essentially invented their own Monsanto in the same way Linus and the men alone invented their own Microshit
☟︎ BingoBoingo: It's what would be alt-Republics seem to do
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 17:36 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858549 << trying to universalize incorrectly. i think the greater part of design problems come from people picking the wrong "universal" to hitch on to.
BingoBoingo: On the plus side if you want to do non-narcotic houseplants or balcony vegetables in Uruguay, the quality of potting soil here is extraordinary compared to the shit in old country
mircea_popescu: they import german stuff i've never seen outside of germany.
mircea_popescu: anyway, by all means, get an us toll free number, ima provide endpoint here later todayh.
mircea_popescu: "oh, gotta get a real job". i'm sure she's rotting in some half-employment as we speak.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they import german stuff i've never seen outside of germany. << The one I've been using is a local product. Thoroughly composted and fluffy with ample perlite. Has a mariuana leaf on the bag even.
mircea_popescu: but how hard is to break the mother mula conditioning, and always put hands on your tits under the shirt, rather than always try to remove same.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 19:52 asciilifeform: ( pharmacologically also interesting : old-school opium 'smokers' ( wasn't actually smoked, it was sublimated in a device resembling today's 'crack pipe', and pretty 'high tech' procedure, look at photo of the kit some time ) -- the moar active components of the vegetable -- morphine & relateds -- didn't make it out of the pipe bowl, broke down, so theoretically the chinese were actually doing a somewhat different dope than today's j
mircea_popescu: entirely possiobly. i never cared enough about pot to break out the thin layer cromatographs and shit.
mircea_popescu: there's 2 dozen in eggplant, also, and in everything else.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about the stupider angle. principal function of indian opium in chinese society was civilised (by their lights) old man gc.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the indian balls of black spice travelled before 3k bc.
mircea_popescu: nor does anyone. they azns are terrible at ancient record keeping.
mircea_popescu: chinese is fucking terrible at specificity of terms, between "she cow pig had kittens" and "alf put opium in his food" because opium is a spice and so is cardamom...
mircea_popescu: yes, but i very much do not trust chinese. as a language i mean, and as a cultural process.
BingoBoingo: Gotta make sure you are an honored ancestor for passing down which black spice makes the rice taste better and which black spice kills the old folks as they drip spacekitten pig balls
mircea_popescu: consequently, i don't trust a single word they write down to mean anything in particular, exactly like "how do you know democrat is lying -- his lips are moving" and "why do you have no faith in the xtian church"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this may be ; but as far as i can see, chinese is 100% "insurance-against-future" by mass. specifically : if py yi shi ki comes to mean the bad, then it never meant that in the first place. but until it does -- it means!
mircea_popescu: hence all that undersexed boyish scrotum scent i was detecting, in eg "dao".
mircea_popescu: the cn one specifically. was discussion with phf, im trying to fish it out
mircea_popescu: whereby i protested specifically the idiotically adolescent onemanship, "oh, bla bla bla".
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 18:43 phf: people who can't clearly visualize a cause and effect graph trying to do science. dogen is laughing at them all the way from 13th century
a111: Logged on 2016-07-08 14:37 mircea_popescu: fucking "take moar oestrogen" confucius & "wanna hear our inept teenage boyish oneupmanships" zeo-dan derps.
a111: Logged on 2012-08-13 03:08 mircea_popescu: mtgox from what i understand is losing money, but even so they prolly have more in cash.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Chinese language explains Avalon's Cartman moment when they began shipping ASICs among many other things
mircea_popescu: "Sadly one can't mend a tear in the space-time continuum with needle and thread, and similarily one can't repair the fundamental immorality of christianity by superficial moralizing."
mircea_popescu: dude ... i really like my articles. that one is EXACTLY why christianity is despicable.
BingoBoingo: The Chinese pool operators agreeing to every different course of action during the Gavinassassinen fork wars, etc
BingoBoingo: It boils down to speaking Chinese with English words
mircea_popescu: recall when they "all agreed" then all didn't do, and every anglotard was surprised at this outcome, and every sinoderp was surprised at the surprise ?
BingoBoingo: And remember how as the anglotards were growing up, all their schools "focused" on teaching cross cultural literacy
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 16:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking...
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 17:04 mircea_popescu: a nm, already in log. doh.
diana_coman: I must say that I am ...blissfully unaware of it
mod6: trinque: Looks like the date that your auction closes I'll be busy and not able to settle with you myself.
mod6: BingoBoingo: Please just enter a bid from yourself on behalf of Pizarro for 1 satoshi more than I bid.
mod6: And I think you can just handle the thing then. Thanks.
trinque: I'm not gonna be pissed if you can't handle it same day. Thanks for letting me know.
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 366: 2000 usd WU Heard: 310.08mn from BingoBoingo overbidding mod6 Ending: 2018-10-19 02:32:35 UTC (318 hours 57 mins)
mod6: Perfect, thanks Sir.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
Mocky: a lot of sites are blocked in qatar and i don't know if I'll need it but I'd like to run a web proxy on my pizarro shared hosting just in case. can someone make a recommendation? do I need something like tinyproxy or squid, or is there a way to do it without installing anything?
☟︎☟︎ Mocky: asciilifeform, ok thx
Mocky: cloudfront 504 on that link atm