tmsr - Log 2019-06-03

PeterL: hi there, I made a small vpatch for MP-WP, because the text selection was not working: http://peterl.xyz/2019/06/vpatch-for-text-selection-fix/

lobbesbot: PeterL: Sent 2 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, and 18 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> I'm not versed enough in javascript to be certain. The difference below 24c24 could be something.

lobbesbot: PeterL: Sent 2 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, and 7 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2032&cpage=1#comment-19792

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-02#1916860 << usually just disguised campaign donations, "i didn't give $$$ to party, i bought ticket". very popular dnc strategy in the us, since the 70s at the least. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 17:06 BingoBoingo: The very concerned about the poor Frente Amplista wants 300 USD a head to speak for her own campaign.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 19:19 BingoBoingo: In this case since we have identical boxes and divergent prices on the book of 0.23423972 and 0.4 without a USD base price recorded in the statements, I am inclined to take the lower price and round it up to 0.235 to resolve the discrepancy and continue with the pricing exercise.

mircea_popescu: i'm not trying to eat your lunch here, you should be paid a fair amount ; but note you that "sin" was ongoing for as long as i didn't say anything ? this is just not how things can possibly work.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo : i can't think of any objection, identical irons , leased over identical interval, oughta cost same

asciilifeform digs though log, but still not certain which 2 boxes were spoken of. if indeed these 2, then price is diff, cuz dulap is a colo box, owned by snsa, whereas smg is leased box

asciilifeform: grr frustrating. BingoBoingo mircea_popescu when either of you wakes up, plox to say which 2 boxes it were.

deedbot: pehbot voiced for 30 minutes.

pehbot: asciilifeform: Peh Ver: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000FA

asciilifeform: ( it still, grr, won't stay up moar than 3-4 wks in 1 go tho, i'ma have to patch it when trinque publishes his reconnectism patch )

pehbot: asciilifeform: FFA Ver: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000FD

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These are both rental boxes for S.MG. One is the production machine. The other leased monthly (formerly cold spare) for diana_coman to do testing and such.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-01 19:28 asciilifeform: it is actually the snsa spare , BingoBoingo and asciilifeform were leasing it out to hanbot at colo rate , with mp's permission.

asciilifeform: this being said, BingoBoingo plox to make sure mircea_popescu is getting the correct price based on the current conversion factor.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-01 23:03 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in continuation of earlier lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZwuQt/?raw=true

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The dulap spare was yet another monthly, that one strictly billed as a colo, which hanbot played with cuntoo and then the subscription was canceled when that experiment was aborted. The S.NSA spare is cold at present.

asciilifeform: then we're talking about the s.mg spare. which is a piz box and then oughta be priced entirely == to the primary smg. ☟︎☟︎

BingoBoingo: Dulap's year is coming up soon http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-records/#selection-83.1615-83.2338 but much simpler math (colo base rate of 141.7*monthstorenew)

BingoBoingo: I'll put up a proposal for pricing the machine portion of monthly rentals in a bit that elaborates on http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-02#1916868 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 19:19 BingoBoingo: In order to break the present state of sin and approach the proposed, more reasonable figure, going forward my inclination is to have box rental priced to recover 90% of their book cost over the first year's rents and in following years track 50% per annum as a longevity discount.

asciilifeform: 'I am very unhappy with this interaction, I don't believe I met MP (since I asked for very clear corroboration bur didn't get it), I don't believe Nicole does the work ascribed to her without assistance (rather, a team does) and more to the point I don't get the whole point of the project. Why would this be done since 2018? Please give me a simple answer. (Two examples would be tracking international sex trafficking, or making black ☟︎

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-03#1916881 << Sure. Became common knowledge in the US during the 90's before fading out of sight again. Just another point supporting the ~25-35 year culture lag down here. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-03 11:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-02#1916860 << usually just disguised campaign donations, "i didn't give $$$ to party, i bought ticket". very popular dnc strategy in the us, since the 70s at the least.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-03#1916911 << well, this is where it gets nutty. i'm certain ben_vulpes talked me into sellign a box to pziarro, but now i don't recall if it was the nsa box or the minigame box. i seem to recall it wasn't both. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-03 16:19 asciilifeform: then we're talking about the s.mg spare. which is a piz box and then oughta be priced entirely == to the primary smg.

mircea_popescu: i guess ima have to have this dug up on my own side also, to get back to sanity.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-03 16:33 asciilifeform: 'I am very unhappy with this interaction, I don't believe I met MP (since I asked for very clear corroboration bur didn't get it), I don't believe Nicole does the work ascribed to her without assistance (rather, a team does) and more to the point I don't get the whole point of the project. Why would this be done since 2018? Please give me a simple answer. (Two examples would be tracking international sex trafficking, or making black

mircea_popescu: yes dude, slavery == superpowers, what the fuck. what else would be the point anyway ?

mircea_popescu: that's precisely what a slavegirl is, a woman that from outside seems a whole fucking blue chip corporation all by herself. much like a car is, to the zulu mind, "a whole herd of oxen".

asciilifeform: re the nonsense, that's ninjashogun, and as for wtf in his crankcase, i have nfi, i suspect medicine is powerless

diana_coman: eh, from asciilifeform's snippets the dude's "evaluations" seem to be more mix-and-match premade expectations than actual evaluations; fwiw I met Nicole and I don't see why exactly couldn't she do those reviews she did. ☟︎

diana_coman: I'm not even sure he's not more common than one might think but that's not to say the whole thing is not getting more tiresome than lulzy from my pov.

asciilifeform: supposedly a coupla % ( at least in industrialized populations ) are active/latent schizo ☟︎

asciilifeform: at any rate i'm all outta what to say to such patient, if anyone wants to play with him, his email's in the paste, i'ma put him in the nigerian list.

asciilifeform suspects the fella's at the stage where only thing left is the folx in white coats, fixation robe, cold showers, aminazine, etc ☟︎

diana_coman: asciilifeform: why or how exactly different from all the others who decided that reality doesn't apply to them when it trips over their expectations?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik not diff. only peculiarity is that he got hold of a net connection, but i suppose this is not difficult feat naodays even for hobo ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( incidentally remember the olden days when one could usually suppose that someone with net connection has a fixed postage address somewhere, and humanlike house, and etc ? )

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or which is the s.mg owned machine ? << NSA owns its machines, S.MG rents its machines from Pizarro. ben_vulpes bought boxes rented to S.MG through incurring a debt S.NSA, visible in Pizarro statements in the liability tables http://pizarroisp.net/2019/05/06/pizarro-april-2019-report/#selection-13.5592-13.5655

a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 18:11 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i wasn't initially going to say anything besides "nay" ; but hey, pizarro's a friend of ours, so : nsa would sell the spare machine for cost, which is about .371. comes with two fgs installed and free shipping.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-03 19:42 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes cash or bonds, though for the latter no actual discount was discussed in teh nsa boardroom. but i guess i'll go with .4 off the cuff and hope nobody throws gavels at me.

BingoBoingo: And a portion of the S.NSA debt appears to be FUCKGOATS http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785997 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 16:38 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how about you lot take three dozen FGs at .45 ? (cash ; or at your option .5 BTC worth of convertible bonds for s.nsa).

a111: Logged on 2018-02-26 17:30 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'll take 'em in exchange for the note at 0.5. ty!

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-03#1916911 << asciilifeform to be clear we are talking about both S.MG machines. One machine is a yearly rental where ben_vulpes worked out a sort of high markup insurance plan http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-26#1786313 Eventually the cold spare backing insurance turned into a monthly rental priced by math unknown to me http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-25#1837631 ☝︎☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-03 16:19 asciilifeform: then we're talking about the s.mg spare. which is a piz box and then oughta be priced entirely == to the primary smg.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-26 17:41 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm going to roll the FGs into the rental cost of the machine; 20% markup for a year paid up front for the whole kit and caboodle if that passes with you

a111: Logged on 2018-07-25 02:45 mod6: So the 0.03542985 includes the price of the physical box, and a charge for rack space. we broke this down into a daily cost, then multiplied it by 19, as we figured this out on the 12th.

BingoBoingo: I would like to convert both of these to clear yearly contracts that will not require a time sucking archaeology mission on both sides when renewal comes up again. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I would like to do this in a way that leads to not every single 1U rental contract becoming a precious bespoke snowflake arrangement (beyond accomodations naturally offered and WELL RECORDED to sugar things up for big clients because "men not laws"). The idea is that by knowing what our book is on a machine, pricing can become simple in the way Colocation and Rockchips are. ☟︎

BingoBoingo notes the current predicament where X process that could be routinely handled by following a recipe instead degrades to a process involving several exhausting searches is exactly why "common law" jurisdictions inevitably turn into India, Ganges and all

BingoBoingo: Once the S.MG rental billing is taken care of with a model applicable to future server rentals, the book can be closed on ugly common law billing. ☟︎