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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 395 @ 0.0027094 = 1.0702 BTC [-] {20}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 667 @ 0.00266083 = 1.7748 BTC [-] {8}
benkay: so what'd i miss last two days?
mike_c: china declared bitcoin illegal
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard i wouldn't hold anything bloomberg says against the "financial elite".
mircea_popescu: anymore than i'd hold anything jezebel publishes against "hot college sluts"
Pierre_Rochard: Agreed, I suspect the people who respond to bloomberg surveys are a few layers below “financial elite”
mircea_popescu: !up kanzure
dub: !ticker h am
assbot: It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
dub: !ticker h am1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.16000000 / 0.17427496 / 0.17810011 (67 shares, 11.67642261 BTC), 7D: 0.16000000 / 0.18260023 / 0.20000000 (421 shares, 76.87469724 BTC), 30D: 0.16000000 / 0.19476211 / 0.23100000 (2179 shares, 424.38663775 BTC)
benkay: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00368000 / 0.00442061 / 0.00540000 (3154 shares, 13.94260472 BTC), 30D: 0.00200000 / 0.00400794 / 0.00540000 (9159 shares, 36.70867789 BTC)
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 629.46, Best ask: 630.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 631.61, 24 hour volume: 5421.77762335, 24 hour low: 618.46, 24 hour high: 632.96, 24 hour vwap: 625.997690338
decimation: asciilifeform: re: linux on /dev/random "To me it sounds from your description that you may well be on the edge of "too anal". Real life _has_ to be taken into account, and not accepting entropy because of theoretical issues is _not_ a good idea"
decimation: "we have to accept that we can't give real entropy to those that need it, so shut up and get on the bus
kakobrekla: you mean the wagen.
decimation: no, the wagen is for those who refuse the bus :)
decimation: At the end of "the first circle", the prisoners are being removed from Mavrino in a vehicle disguised as a meat truck:
decimation: "Buffeting its load of tightly packed bodies, the gaily painted orange and blue truck drove on through the streets, passed a railway station and stopped at a crossroads. There, halted by a traffic-light, stood the dark-red car belonging to the Moscow correspondent of the Paris newspaper LIBERATION, on his way to a hockey match at the Dynamo Stadium. On the side of the van the correspondent read the words: MYACO. VIANDE. FLEISCH. MEAT. ☟︎☟︎
decimation: He remembered having seen several trucks like this today in various parts of Moscow. Taking out his notebook he wrote with his dark-red fountain pen: 'Now and again on the streets of Moscow you meet food delivery vans, clean, well-designed and hygienic. One must admit that the city's food supplies are admirably well organized.'" ☟︎
decimation: That's what Solzhenitsyn thought about the West back then
decimation: "useful idiots"
kakobrekla thinks the bus leads to railway station.
thickasthieves: "The Chamber of Digital Commerce announced itself on Saturday at the North American Bitcoin Conference in Chicago. The group is registered as a 501(c)(6) nonprofit, which allows it to act as a lobbyist, and is being led by Perianne Boring, a former journalist and Congressional staffer. It has early backing from RRE Ventures and Tally Capital, which are leading a seed-round of fund
thickasthieves: raising."
thickasthieves: is it really called a "seed-round" if it's a non-profit?
thickasthieves: and is seed-round really in need of a hyphen?
thickasthieves: (WSJ)
mircea_popescu: lol chamber of digital commerce.
mircea_popescu: what is this thing with youths where they want to pretend like they're doing shit.
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: apprenticeship system broke down due to minimum wage at the low end, and college at the “high end”
Pierre_Rochard: so now we pretend to do shit and hope it sticks.
mircea_popescu: very expensive process.
mircea_popescu: she's a pretty girl, she's ambitious, she's for some reason chosen to fuck herself over the mocsny way.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2014#761157 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: just replace "sex" with "business success"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mocsny had other interesting quirks. he was, for instance, ideologically opposed to driving car (pollution!)
Pierre_Rochard: Yes, well it doesn’t seem to be business success that she’s after. Naturally, she’s interested in social validation from her in-group of fellow bitcoiners
thickasthieves: !s perianne
assbot: 6 results for 'perianne' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=perianne
thickasthieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/ she looks like an actress for a cheesy cop show
assbot: Perianne Boring - Boring Economics - Forbes
thickasthieves: a dame
Pierre_Rochard: https://twitter.com/PerianneDC/status/462716981356294144
Pierre_Rochard: WHCD stands for White House Correspondents Dinner, where journalists go to pretend like they’re doing shit ☟︎
thickasthieves: first comment is good
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard that's business success.
mircea_popescu: if you're validated for your peers for what you do, that's business success.
mircea_popescu: and whcd is just a little pork, take all these famished kids and serve them a proper meal once a year is the idea.
mircea_popescu: course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering.
mircea_popescu: !s bitcoingirl
assbot: 203 results for 'bitcoingirl' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoingirl
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves ^
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu I think that widens the definition of “business” a bit much. being the accountant that I am, I always look at that net income line. perhaps to my detriment
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> course from what i hear they've been skimping on the catering. // what, dollars grow on trees?
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard but business is doing things, no other definition really works.
mircea_popescu: you can also know things, and you can also fuck really well. that just about covers human experience.
thickasthieves: dont forget hugs and cat love
Pierre_Rochard: I wouldn’t describe the wealthy heiress who is very busy organizing charity galas to be a “business success” - however much she’s “doing things”. Her business is structurally running a loss
thickasthieves: hmm
thickasthieves: you are stretching
thickasthieves: charity galas cant be success now?
thickasthieves: they are a loss?
thickasthieves: what if they raise the money?
Pierre_Rochard: they consume capital, I’ve always thought of “business success” as creating capital
Pierre_Rochard: the more money they raise, the more capital they consume
Pierre_Rochard: semantics
thickasthieves: well they are called nonprofits for a reason
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard running a loss of what ?
mircea_popescu: all economy is pouring fluid from one vessel to the next.
mircea_popescu: if she's spending her own money to buy something, who are you to know better ? as long as she can keep doing it she's a businessman just like you.
Pierre_Rochard: a loss of capital. I disagree, capital does accumulate
mircea_popescu: or in romanian, "cistigi, pagubesti, negustor te numesti"
thickasthieves: mp i agree strongly with this sentiment
mircea_popescu: so if i spend capital to buy advertising im a bad businessman ?
mircea_popescu: what's this, mercantilism 2.0 ?
thickasthieves: a system persisting is success
thickasthieves: that's all
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves obv.
Pierre_Rochard: we are disagreeing on semantics then, because to me spending:investing::consumption:business
mircea_popescu: maybe we're disagreeing on the point where you cut the space of externalities ideologically and pretend like it ain't so.
mircea_popescu: the mining mogul uses up coal to make money.
mircea_popescu: the socialite uses up money to make whatever the fuck you'd call it.
Pierre_Rochard: no, because you are buying an intangible “capital” good called goodwill / brand awareness / customer education. This capital depreciates over time
mircea_popescu: "pr"
mircea_popescu: everything depreciates over time.
mircea_popescu: the only measure of success is, "is this species still extant or meanwhile extinguished"
mircea_popescu: that's how nature does it.
Pierre_Rochard: well yes, the socialite buys social capital, I would call them a successful socialite, I wouldn’t normally call them a successful businessperson. they would find it offensive to compare their activities to commercial ones
mircea_popescu: what a socialite finds offensive is entirely her problem
mircea_popescu: she'll still take it in the ass.
thickasthieves: wife met with a state senator today asking her to be on the board of a nonprofit that gives public school teachers funds for stuff the school won't pay for
thickasthieves: that outta twist things nicely for ya
thickasthieves: charity to the failings of the gov
Pierre_Rochard: fair enough, so the conclusion is that boring is a successful businessperson?
mircea_popescu: the us is too meta.
thickasthieves: oughta
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard no. she positions herself as she were, she pretends to be.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, she's a ridiculous teenager, putting online a forum about "how to score chix"
mircea_popescu: while acnee, basement, virgin.
asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: start an org that will give funds to pay for stuff the nonprofit won't pay for. do this until stack overflows.
mircea_popescu: but "who's gonna know" right ?
thickasthieves: ascii they are called trusts right?
asciilifeform: 'trust,' afaik, is somewhat generic
thickasthieves: i think it's where the wife wants to end up, deciding which nonprofits get pools of money
asciilifeform: thickasthieves << 'shift' key wore out?
thickasthieves: just spicing things up
asciilifeform: lol
Pierre_Rochard: at what point would you say she is a thing? If she is able to do enough work to raise money for her new organization, is that not a successful business?
asciilifeform: unrelated - is kakobrekla awake? i wish to buy his gadget.
thickasthieves: kako sells gadgets?
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: one in particular
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#758843 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
thickasthieves: ah i see
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard the objection here isn't on the lines of business. she looks like she could raise a million dollars on the vegas strip np
mircea_popescu: the objection here is that she's working hard, not smart.
mircea_popescu: which is why the link to the mocsny guy.
mircea_popescu: let me tell you a story, it'll perfectly well illustrate what i mean.
Pierre_Rochard: Ok, I’m all ears
mircea_popescu: so, when i went to hs, they made this special "suprareal" class. (in romanian, "real" means you do math, otherwise it's a chick hs doing languages, or a prole hs doing "skills"). they made the entrance so fucking hard tho that only about 18 kids out of the entire region made it. the remainder "fell through" to 3 normal "real" classes at this elite hs.
mircea_popescu: then the ministry decided it won't ok a 18 student class. so they took a dozen the kids that had fallen through 3 normal classes, and had not found an alternative hs in the dozen or so top highschools around. and put them in.
mircea_popescu: now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: she came. for four years, that poor unfortunate soul sat there, dreading the moment anyone asked anything. because she knew she couldn't cope. just smart enough to smart.
asciilifeform: lol i remember this story
mircea_popescu: nobody flunked her, because you don't flunk well behaved girls. and so... she made it through. parents beamingly proud.
mircea_popescu: all the kids that were any good left, generally the country. just about now, an elderly lady with a full professorship was looking for an assistant.
mircea_popescu: if possible, a polite and introverted girl.
mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less! ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: now... is she a thing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they could have thrown her out, np. just...
Pierre_Rochard: Ah, I see what you mean now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i spoke to other people from that time, and they remember her. from other lectures.
mircea_popescu: so, yeah. she can be a thing if she wants. she doesn't, even if she may be too stupid to realise this.
Pierre_Rochard: Reminds me of this diagram (excuse the wp): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenge_vs_skill.svg
assbot: File:Challenge vs skill.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: 'but dr. x!! i just don't -get- euler's totient! pleeeease explain it again!'
Pierre_Rochard: would it be fair to say “pretending” = taking on a challenge that you don’t have the skills for, and “a thing” = taking on a challenge you have the skills for?
mircea_popescu: i think so.
mircea_popescu: skills broadly speaking.
Pierre_Rochard: Right. Hmm. Going to sleep on this one now. I like the heuristic. I’ll be doing log reading this weekend with that in mind
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure how similar to your girl, but all i could think of in that lecture was 'why no one humanely shoots this broken horse?'
mircea_popescu: why put her in the spot is more the q
asciilifeform: and$t0, $t0, 0xffbfffff
asciilifeform: lol wrong window
decimation: there's also the dunning-kruger effect, the unskilled strongly tend to think that they are skilled
mircea_popescu: decimation now imagine what happens to a society that takes all the natural victims of this phenomenon, kids aged 15-20, and a) preaches to the girls they should be more like the boys, ie, stupid in this particular manner and b)
asciilifeform: decimation: only goes so far. i really can't imagine this particular specimen thought it was skilled.
mircea_popescu: spends all the time it should spend training them so they stop sucking training them to believe they are just fine and this is what one does and should do.
decimation: yeah the problem is more the marginal boy that mircea points out
decimation: at my university I found these types "lecturing" freshman psychology, hoping to "earn" a phd in social science
decimation: I admire the german system for this reason; take a test around middle school to really determine if you are capable of the university path
decimation: if not, learn a trade
decimation: this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not
asciilifeform: decimation: except when it doesn't. consider japanese 'cram schools'
asciilifeform: decimation: the marginal kids get herded by their family into a kind of boot camp where they get trained, like animals, to jump through the burning ring
decimation: it's true that no filter is going to be perfect
decimation: but it's better than shoving every kid into college
asciilifeform: even ancient china, apparently, had 'cram schools.' (see miyazaki, 'china's examination hell' - neat little monograph on the subject) ☟︎☟︎
decimation: interesting, thanks for the tip
decimation: here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat?
decimation: one answer I came up with: banning bitcoin is banning information transfer, which seems to be beyond the power of the state
decimation: whereas banning physical gold transaction is possible, at least within the "officially recognized" banking and exchange entities
mircea_popescu: <decimation> here's a question: why will bitcoin succeed when gold was beaten so badly by fiat? << well, why has gold been "Beaten so badly by fiat" ?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> this functions as a natural safety value which relieves people from pretending they are something that they are not << whole fucking contemporary us is built upon people pretending they are everyithing they're not.
mircea_popescu: it starts with the us itself pretending to be part of the western world, while leading africa in rapes, teenage pregnancy, incarceration, functional illiteracy and the like
mircea_popescu: religious obscurantism, you name it, they got it.
thickasthieves: you create one country and you think you can do anything for a few hundred years
nubbins`: the british only created one country? ;D
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/TD57iUI
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: ^ just finished
mircea_popescu: !up agamemnon23
nubbins`: i'd wondered what happened to goat, seems he's banned from the forums
mircea_popescu: didn';t he make a sikrit forum where he derps with tortilla and some glbse bagholders ?
nubbins`: ;;google cryptocrypt
gribble: CryptoCrypt - Index: <https://cryptocrypt.org/>; crypto-, crypt- - Word Information: <http://wordinfo.info/unit/2455>; cryptocrypt.org (cryptocryptorg) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/cryptocryptorg>
artifexd: I don't understand this “burning bitcoin" concept. Bitcoin are destined to be one of the most valuable commodities that have ever existed. Burning them is just dumb. Plain and simple. Dumb.
TheNewDeal: probably smells good
artifexd: Also, I'm a little intoxicated. "Welcome to Ecuador" says the family, with alcohol.
mircea_popescu: artifexd people are attracted by the outrageous.
TheNewDeal: and outraged at the attactive
mircea_popescu: that too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.01500255 = 0.6001 BTC [-] {4}
Duffer1 buys smokin hot new comp
Duffer1 forgets to buy case
Duffer1: :(
jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ever considered dial-in access to mpex? decommissioned hardware should be cheap and it'd work internationally (9600 baud would suffice)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: since we're on irc, why not bring back bbs days of glory?
Duffer1: i'd mudd
Duffer1: oh snap http://www.mudstats.com/
assbot: MUDStats.Com: statistics and information on MUD/MUCK/MUSH/MUX/MOO games
kakobrekla: <asciilifeform> unrelated - is kakobrekla awake? i wish to buy his gadget. < moving to eu already?
fluffypony: what gadget?
dub: the fuckingmachines.com one
pankkake: ;;later tell Duffer1 http://fs65.trilulilu.ro/imgs/BesTiuTzu/cea-mai-tare-unitate_3aa1759f9e8c56.jpg
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 194 @ 0.00278 = 0.5393 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/
assbot: Peeling the onion: Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government | PandoDaily
thickasthieves: http://pandodaily.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/imag0016.jpg?w=1000&h=829
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it could travel in a crate, no ?
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't get what it'd be supposed to do tho. you mean dial-up access only ? anyone can connect to a website on dial-up as it is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 600 @ 0.00278 = 1.668 BTC [+] {2}
thickasthieves: "Dell should pre-install Bitcoin wallets in all its laptops" ~Reddit
pankkake: what could possibly go wrong
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00276999 = 1.4709 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 573 @ 0.00278983 = 1.5986 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 268 @ 0.00279717 = 0.7496 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 628 @ 0.00282677 = 1.7752 BTC [+] {8}
punkman: mircea_popescu: anyone can connect to a website on dial-up as it is. << I think he meant having his modem dial a telephone number for mpex
thickasthieves: “The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face" ~ Putin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79138904 BTC to 12`351 shares, 14504 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 26.54172304 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2308 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.01507294 = 0.829 BTC [-] {2}
thickasthieves: some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/
assbot: A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED
penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-bitstamp-preparing-for-700/
herbijudlestoids: hullo
herbijudlestoids: thought i would check in
herbijudlestoids: went to poke mpex, looks like a lot has been going on
thickasthieves: everyone's keeping busy, slow this morning though
herbijudlestoids: all healthy and happy?
thickasthieves: http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/balance.png?w=382 meters?
thickasthieves: afaik everyone is healthy
thickasthieves: other than mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00275165 = 0.6164 BTC [-] {7}
herbijudlestoids: yes, admit i was a little surprised about the downtime thing upon visiting trilema
herbijudlestoids: but i guess mircea_popescu knows whats what when it comes to building the system he designed
mircea_popescu: o look herbijudlestoids
herbijudlestoids: hi mp :)
herbijudlestoids: verify happy/healthy?
mircea_popescu: sure.
herbijudlestoids: gud
herbijudlestoids: things have been going well on my end, after the first big customer hit we have had a bit of a flood of them, and our accountant has even managed to score us significant tax breaks around R&D for the last FY
herbijudlestoids: so, as i guess my absence has indicated, have been keeping busy
herbijudlestoids: anyway, 3am here, just wanted to login and check on yall after i noticed mpex was down. lots of love.
benkay: "We are a transportation company—we are not law enforcement," Mr. Fitzgerald added. // http://online.wsj.com/articles/fedex-indicted-for-role-in-distributing-controlled-substances-prescription-drugs-1405637242
assbot: FedEx Indicted in Prescription Drug Shipping Probe - WSJ
mircea_popescu: benkay no they are criminalz.
mircea_popescu: they knew-or-should-have-known (tm) that people are sending dope through the mail and stopped offerind mail services!
mircea_popescu: no any-services (tm) may be offered by anyone because IT IS DANGEROUS
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 229 @ 0.00454957 = 1.0419 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 249 @ 0.00286 = 0.7121 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Black men who are employed also get the shaft by having an average life expectancy of 64 years, which means on average they don't live long enough to see any of their social security tax payments, given that the retirement age is 65 years."
mircea_popescu: fucking statistics 101. black men may have a 64 yo le, but black men WHO ARE EMPLOYED do not.
asciilifeform does not know the genuine figure, and doubts that anyone else does
benkay: mircea_popescu: it's a wild ride
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which figure you mean ?
benkay: https://www.refheap.com/88370
assbot: anonymous's paste: 88370
benkay: ^^ o.O
benkay: <thickasthieves> some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin.
assbot: A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED
benkay: 0, 1, inf.
fluffypony: FluffyCoin ?
benkay: probably just your gpg keyid ;)
benkay: -> magic bytes in protocol, to separate networks
benkay: no mining per se, because that's a feature of btc, you know?
benkay: pre-mine, act as your own central bank.
benkay: reputation and behavior are incredibly important because you can rewrite the blockchain basically at will, unless you do something with a merged-mine approach (but i don't know enough about mm to comment really)
kakobrekla: asciilifeform possibly, but i suspect it still a fortune to ship since im not in china or uk. two more issues, as i said, its not assembled atm and would need to be before its shipped overseas, to see whats what. this takes time.
kakobrekla: other thing is, Z axis, while I have the parts, two alu blocks would still need to be machined - if you have access to machining you are prolly better off getting alu machined locally.
kakobrekla: and get the rest of the parts from uk/china. whichever you prefer. its same stuff.
kakobrekla: >prolly better off getting alu machined locally.< i mean all the profiles.
kakobrekla: now if youd be in eu, id grab all the parts and come with them to put it together - not even selling - would lend it for free.
benkay: these canadians!
benkay: i just found a beer bottle with a threaded neck onto which a cap had been crimped to not un-thread. i did not know that this was possible!
mircea_popescu: <benkay> <thickasthieves> some kinda wtf WoTcoin http://www.wired.com/2014/07/document-coin/ // it's quite clear everyone'll eventually have their own coin. << truth. whore stopped me in the street last night, "gringo how do i get my own coin ?"
assbot: A New Digital Currency Whose Value Is Based on Your Reputation | Enterprise | WIRED
benkay: you're already known as the btc baron?
jurov: mircea_popescu: i meant for you to have actual modem onsite, to be able to reach mpex even if there's internet problem
mircea_popescu: uh
jurov: and mpex users would be asked not to disclose the number
jurov: but not sure if there's room for this scenario if mpex's completely ddos proof now..
mircea_popescu: i'd rather make it so it works than you know, make it so it phones.
jurov: lolk
jurov: or phone poor moiety and dictate signed order to her xD
mircea_popescu: lol
moiety: XD
mircea_popescu: 64 bytes from [x.x.x.x]: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.47 ms
mircea_popescu: now that's what i'm talking about.
benkay: oh so this is going to be entertaining
benkay: i discovered at the border that my passport is expired. canadian borderfolk dgaf, but i'm *really* anticipating hitting US customs now.
benkay: like so excited omg
mircea_popescu: inb4 benkay exiled to canuckistan.
mircea_popescu: becomes 2nd ovid.
Namworld: Well you can visit me while you're stuck in canuckistan.
benkay: ;;curl mpex.co
gribble: Error: "curl" is not a valid command.
benkay: gtfo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 302 @ 0.00286538 = 0.8653 BTC [+] {2}
FabianB: ;;status
FabianB: $status
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
mircea_popescu: hopefully that'll cut donw on the join/part spam.
BingoBoingo claps
fluffypony: yay
Namworld: I have those turned off in my client since last year. I don't see those anymore. Was quite annoying and barely helpful.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yeah but take the recent camho invasion for instance.
mircea_popescu: we'd have never known.
mircea_popescu: good practice to voice/help new people anyway.
mircea_popescu: for anyone looking to get a taste of obscure bug parade : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659512
assbot: Bug 659512 – no chance to enter a password during key generation in command-line mode
mircea_popescu: for a coupla hours there it looked like the whole damned charade'll have to be taken down and redone.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002865 = 0.8595 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 222 Ask: 242 Last Price: 223 24h-Vol: 18k High: 223 Low: 222 VWAP: 222
BingoBoingo: %ob
atcbot: 722@279 30k@278 18k@242 | 22k@222 57k@211 183k@210
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 687182.56 in 2007 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: 0.00
nubbins`: hi
BingoBoingo: ;;laser
gribble: Error: "laser" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
nubbins`: plural
nubbins`: :D
nubbins`: !up stormlight
nubbins`: any of you know who klaus nomi is?
mircea_popescu: meh
kakobrekla: yeah
BingoBoingo: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/07/clean-water/
assbot: Archaeologist : Ancient Group Claimed Drinking Clean Water Caused Diarrhea | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 207 @ 0.0028742 = 0.595 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "As an example, the following string of numbers is anything but random:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 However, if this is run through a MD5 or SHA whitener, the result would
mircea_popescu: *look* random, even though the source material is anything but random."
mircea_popescu: in which we find Theodore Y. Ts'o doesn't comprehend what random means.
BingoBoingo: !up Lee-
BingoBoingo: !up jMyles