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shinohai: I'm gonna freeze gcc version 4.9.4 on website soon as it seems to be only version thus far that will build tmsr related stuff for me without shitting the bed
trinque: shinohai: 4.9.2's in deedbot for trb deps btw
trinque: I guess ada wants 4.9.4 though, was it?
shinohai: Oh cool
shinohai: 4.9.4 was what I had to use for Ada stuff, though I admit I'm not far down that path yet
trinque: http://deedbot.org/deed-427443-5.txt << gcc-4.9.2.tar.bz2
mircea_popescu: in other lulz http://worldofwonder.net/georgia-cop-tells-woman-not-worry-remember-kill-black-people/
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/report-shows-slpc-moving-funds-across-borders/ << Qntra - Report Shows SLPC Moving Funds Across Borders
shinohai: "Anglin is accused of publicizing the existence of an organized campaign of harassment against his mother by a Pantsuit busybody" <<< gulden
BingoBoingo: Sorry, corrected. It was Ricard Spencer's mother, not Anglin's
shinohai: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/paax7z/this-twitter-bot-tracks-neo-nazi-bitcoin-transactions <<< lolz
shinohai: Likely brought to you by Shillbert and Co
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: and in other re-industrializations, https://blog.za3k.com/blast-furance/
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/party-monster/ << Trilema - Party Monster
kanzure: why are you stalk za3k
mircea_popescu: see #eulora eh.
kanzure: alright he sucks at privacy
mircea_popescu: he does ?
kanzure: he is the anti-fenn but still should be good at privacy so wtf
mircea_popescu: i don't get your reasoning. man has a blog, what privacy is here involved ?
kanzure: did he use that nym?
mircea_popescu: yes ?
kanzure: oh..
mircea_popescu: what is this, "i'ma be lazy and please don't think it means i'm stupid" ?
kanzure: no i can't explain his lethargy
shinohai: Seeing as how you are expert in privacy http://heybryan.org/
mircea_popescu: i was talking about you. i did say see #eulora. you opted not to. this dun work, it's a bad habit, the sooner you shake it the better.
kanzure: e x p e r t huh
mircea_popescu: would "consultant" work better ?
mircea_popescu: cuz i fear "officious intermeddler" may get the .wik treatment if deployed.
kanzure: btw did you spend more than $2k on fg?
kanzure: just curious
mircea_popescu: certainly.
kanzure: is it public number?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: but it is easily north of 1mn. and this is actuarial costs, rather than "What';d it cost intel to reproduce".
kanzure: i would not have guessed that. what am i missing?
kanzure: i would have guessed <$200k
mircea_popescu: that good engineers are rare.
mircea_popescu: and in other random lulz, http://worldofwonder.net/alt-right-childrens-book-the-adventures-of-pepe-and-pede-cancelled/
mircea_popescu: the remnants of james clark are pretty entertaining. and the dood is publishing at trilema levels, check him out, dozens of items a day1
BingoBoingo: Nashville, Illinois: Home of the honest Superintendent of Schools https://archive.is/46ygc
BingoBoingo can even offer directions to there that asciilifeform could follow. Jump on US 50 headed west, Continue on US 50 for some time. Turn South from US-50 to IL-127, drive another 20 ish miles
BingoBoingo: The only difference to alf directions vs local is how long alf stays on US 50
asciilifeform: nao dafuq would i want there, lol
BingoBoingo: Goats?
asciilifeform: in other shitreich lulz, http://archive.is/l0Raz
asciilifeform: 'Man Who Refused to Decrypt Hard Drives Still in Prison After Two Years'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-03#1710438 << all the public numberz are in the broadcasts, kanzure☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-03 01:48 kanzure: is it public number?
asciilifeform: on mircea_popescu's www, http://trilema.com/category/snsa
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-03#1710440 << well to nitpick , given as schematic and rtl are on the www, a one-eyed beggar from calcutta could, in principle, reproduce, dun need the majesty of wintel☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-03 01:48 mircea_popescu: but it is easily north of 1mn. and this is actuarial costs, rather than "What';d it cost intel to reproduce".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-03#1710417 << this method worx, it is how amateurs often do aluminum cast☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-03 01:20 mircea_popescu: and in other re-industrializations, https://blog.za3k.com/blast-furance/
asciilifeform: dun need anything bigger than the pictured bucket.
asciilifeform: ( truly adventurous souls, also try the 'microwave foundry' recipe... )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yet one-eyed beggar from calcutta DOESN'T.
asciilifeform: i suppose he has better things, evidently
asciilifeform: to do
asciilifeform: ( wallow in own gangrenes, or smell roses, or dunno )
mircea_popescu: this perennial "i don't understand why computer costs money, i got mine at walmart" and "hey, i daydream things all day long, why should there be a difference when actual items are involved" isn't going to be engaged on an equal basis.
mircea_popescu: just the clue cptn breezy needs is actually north of a million bucks ; as proven by the fact that all the cptn breezys who won the loterry still couldn't afford to buy it.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4622.93, vol: 15807.30008119 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4599.5, vol: 53136.18424155 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4672.81, vol: 7162.77273481 | Volume-weighted last average: 4611.2660222
BingoBoingo: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/02/obama-is-the-most-expensive-ex-president-for-american-taxpayers/
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/elon-musks-tesla-faces-federal-probe-for-insufficient-socialism-failing-to-make-tesla-ford-again/ << Qntra - Elon Musk's Tesla Faces Federal Probe For Insufficient Socialism, Failing To Make Tesla Ford Again
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: In other wads of wank: "A potentially critical pretrial battle, however, is brewing right now, according to court documents filed Tuesday. Winner — the 25-year-old Air Force veteran and ex-National Security Administration contractor indicted under the Espionage Act for allegedly leaking a top-secret document — has accused the FBI of violating her Miranda rights. Winner’s lawyers are arguing that any alleged confession should be bar
BingoBoingo: red from a jury trial."
mircea_popescu: kek
BingoBoingo: From the fake alt-Qntra trying to cover its own ass for shitgnoming https://archive.is/ooCb6
BingoBoingo: "failure to mirandize" isn't going to get the fuckers off for leaking the yellow tracking piss dots
mircea_popescu: such perfect lulz.
mircea_popescu: woman interacting with usg. "oh noes, it wasn't like the risotto. i felt full after the risotto."
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo to sleep on this lulgem
BingoBoingo: And see if less unreputable source reports on it
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-03#1710467 << point, for instance despite various noises kako never made 'own fg' from recipe☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-03 03:18 mircea_popescu: just the clue cptn breezy needs is actually north of a million bucks ; as proven by the fact that all the cptn breezys who won the loterry still couldn't afford to buy it.
mircea_popescu: noises are nice and good, e3sp because cheap.
asciilifeform: ( i actually egged him on in beginning, because hey, a replication is a replication, the more hostile audience the better )
mircea_popescu: not how irl works.
asciilifeform: apparently
mircea_popescu: and if there's no adult males involved in the active humiliation of females and their spawn, the realisation never occurs, "hey, ten tons of feelers and empty verbiage from me ain't work a buck, and ten minutes of that guy's applied time can buy the whole caravan of us cocksuckers".
asciilifeform: btw to where is cpt breezy reference ?
mircea_popescu: to the let me fish it out.\
mircea_popescu: recall, there was a previous #humanfund thingee we visited, and there was an expert there was gonna advise me advices and things.
mircea_popescu: and besides there's already a rng.
asciilifeform: waiwat
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1661116 << back in may.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-24 21:58 phf: asciilifeform: your thing is existentially terrifying, it demands a lot from the "user" (not sure it even accepts the notion of user) when they look at it, they see a glimpse of own mortality
asciilifeform: aaaa
asciilifeform: yea
mircea_popescu: i can't remember what the "just as good" piece of cardboard footwear they were brandying about, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: costs well north of a million dollars to even find someone who can be arsed to explain to you the difference.
asciilifeform: treating cost as scalar is bound to lead to lulz
asciilifeform: say yer house came with a few tonnes of firewood. then phriend asks, how much worth of wood you burned that winter.
mircea_popescu: talking about what shit costs when you've never made any shit is bound to lead to lulz as well.
asciilifeform: noshit.jog
asciilifeform: jpg
mircea_popescu: (kinda how socialist "economics" ends up fucked in the ass.)
mircea_popescu: and bad blood on all sides, "oh the capitalists are corrupt and stealing from the people" "omfg these fucktards just destroyed the industry".
mircea_popescu: and in other epic lulz : http://worldofwonder.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/kim-north-interview-mag-cover-810x960.jpg
mircea_popescu: the mother as daughter's fashion accessory. gotta accessorize! and match those brown tones!
asciilifeform: lolwaat
mircea_popescu: ikr ?
mircea_popescu: kardashian is just hairy, she's not black.
mircea_popescu: and in other, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-02#1709850 we have here https://crimewatchdaily.com/2017/08/22/l-a-detectives-launch-probe-into-mans-death-at-democratic-donors-home-victims-mother-urges-other-alleged-victims-to-come-forward/☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 15:16 asciilifeform: when done to usg -- 'atrocity'
mircea_popescu: (ed buck, pantsuit supporter, killed random black twink)
mircea_popescu: and in other bimbos, http://68.media.tumblr.com/b383eab3e602e30de95ddff4653d3707/tumblr_nwadwlCbWd1uct8g7o1_1280.jpg
hanbot: say, do we have an irc bot (republican made/signed sorta thing)? ben_vulpes ? phf ? lobbes ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-27#1648773 << it was ##crypto , Captain_Beezay, and the item in question was "onerng".☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 19:09 Framedragger: btw there are like 770 people sitting and talking on ##crypto, it might not even be 100% hopeless, curious if they would respond well to FUCKGOATS advertising
mircea_popescu: hanbot iirc ben_vulpes published a whole thing. or was it trinque
hanbot: ah yeah i see trinque has a logbot genesis (http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/), i'll check it out. ty
mircea_popescu: that.
hanbot: Install `ircbot`. << basically am curious if there's anything that eschews this
mircea_popescu: hanbot it's his own sbcl lisp bot
hanbot: oh fuck me. kk i'll check it out better. :)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-03#1710490 fucking finally dug it up! here : http://trilema.com/2017/how-i-found-some-area-of-expertise-in-mathematical-cryptography-one-expects-to-find-here-and-there-plus-divers-spots-missed-while-shaving/#selection-123.0-108.12☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-03 04:05 asciilifeform: btw to where is cpt breezy reference ?
mircea_popescu is curious how this goes.
hanbot: yeah this is exactly what i wanted, awesome.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4566.43, vol: 12479.54716916 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4507.8, vol: 41008.85752752 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4618.3, vol: 5837.88967042 | Volume-weighted last average: 4531.00661814
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/RPoHG/?raw=true
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E2BE34EE92A7ACD83043E8D31B2671DA99D9CFC6B94C6DE55D49E6723F827614 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1372...2199 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.243.64.54 (ssh-rsa key from 92.243.64.54 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (92.243.64.54.addr.datapoint.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E2BE34EE92A7ACD83043E8D31B2671DA99D9CFC6B94C6DE55D49E6723F827614 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1632...7827 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.243.64.54 (ssh-rsa key from 92.243.64.54 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (92.243.64.54.addr.datapoint.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E2AD46A5F3655ACBC7663DDF0DDB42EE61827736164708E23FCD1B6D7D30192D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1429...5833 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.87.123.6 (ssh-rsa key from 200.87.123.6 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.peredovaldivia.com. BO L)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E2AD46A5F3655ACBC7663DDF0DDB42EE61827736164708E23FCD1B6D7D30192D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1607...0843 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.87.123.6 (ssh-rsa key from 200.87.123.6 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.peredovaldivia.com. BO L)
shinohai: Heh Bolivian IP webcams
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7BC57309E50CEC81F8BB77CA608036612485D5676133DE4E0F153DCD05A066BA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1474...8913 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '95.242.199.104 (ssh-rsa key from 95.242.199.104 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host104-199-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it. IT 57 PU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7BC57309E50CEC81F8BB77CA608036612485D5676133DE4E0F153DCD05A066BA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1729...5037 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '95.242.199.104 (ssh-rsa key from 95.242.199.104 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host104-199-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it. IT 57 PU)
mod6: hola
mircea_popescu: hey
mod6: :]
mod6: how goes today?
mircea_popescu: not so bad!
mircea_popescu: gonna go watch birds with morning coffee, bbs
mod6: nice. ok.
mircea_popescu: !up r0nin-
mod6: !!up r0nin-
deedbot: r0nin- voiced for 30 minutes.
r0nin-: hello philo-semites
mircea_popescu: r0nin- nobody gives a shit about you. save your histrionics for your mom, if she's interested.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/kim-kardashian-cameleo/ << Trilema - Kim Kardashian Cameleo
spyked: stumbled upon http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692820 <-- *theoretically* (where theoretically = I'm mostly pulling this out of spyked arse, so hold on to eggs) possible. problems as far as I can see are 1. no. of transistors, 2. arch/microarch design, e.g. how to use general-purpose registers (assuming there are gp registers there); and I assume there might be bigger problems, some of which mentioned by asciilifeform. static checking☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 20:28 mircea_popescu: to revisit a very ancient mp wonderment since his less-interested days ( http://trilema.com/2010/curiozitate-calculatoristica/ ) : why not ada-on-a-chip ?
spyked: IMHO could be separated from "compilation" (could as well be part of ada assembler, or "program loader" if there's such a thing).
spyked: also, there's the memory model. lisp machine "cells" are very elegant, while algol-like languages seem pretty muddy on that part. ftr, I have never seriously programmed in ada (closest thing to it was pascal)
spyked: the question is rather which subset is suitable for building in hardware, and I guess this reduces to bounds checking and maybe other critical run-time parts (does ada have gc?)
spyked: hm. actually, ada is used in real-time, so no gc
danielpbarron: http://archive.is/2rCMF << Burning Man lives up to its name. P.S. He died.
mircea_popescu: spyked yeah, mostly resolved towards lisp-on-a-chip
danielpbarron: i chose to post the archived link because the original gives 403 forbidden error in lynx
spyked: mircea_popescu, o, I see. also, for some reason the scenario in original trilema post sounds much more plausible today. if "gpu" monster, then why not dbpu.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: i'm a visionary what can i tell ye.
asciilifeform: spyked: read about ' content-addressable memory '
asciilifeform: that was the meat of 'db chip' concept. idea is, flipping through N memory locs one by one, to search, is retarded
asciilifeform: you have wires to all of them regardless, why not as all-of-them 'where is S'
asciilifeform: *ask all
asciilifeform bbl
spyked: ah, like the ones they use in switches! yeah makes sense
trinque: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema-trinque?d=2017-9-3#198716 << demo of a few paybot commands
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-09-03 22:12 trinque: !!balance
trinque: ^ cross channel quoting, nice!
mircea_popescu: dun dun dun
trinque: all that's left for a usable first cut is a payment to a particular invoice, and a command to list one's inbound and outbound invoices
mircea_popescu: trinque deposit doesn't need verification does it ?
mircea_popescu: and !!pay should respond "Done." if success.
trinque: did, I had a bug and fixed
mircea_popescu: ah it does. kk.
trinque: then re-ran
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/party-monster-2/ << Trilema - Party Monster
mircea_popescu: spiffy.
trinque: the thought re OTP is if I don't force people to verify one, I'm letting allcomers generate "chosen-plaintext" for a particular key
mircea_popescu: all voiced.
trinque: if that doesn't bother anyone, can remove the step, yep.
mircea_popescu: and you don't really have to generate ANOTHER one.
mircea_popescu: see, way it works is, acct requests a deposit address. you look if you have one, if you don't you create and communicate. if it gets paid you sweep it, and remove it off "there's one". if it isn't paid you just reuse it next time
mircea_popescu: this make sense or should i write example ?
trinque: all same address for deposits.
trinque: they're distinguished by amount
mircea_popescu: ah ah. right, then nm.
trinque: in fact my fee for the bot operation comes at time of deposit. say you want to deposit 5btc. it may ask you to deposit 5.00004821.
mircea_popescu: ah and you keep the 4821 ?
trinque: yep
mircea_popescu: yeah, reasonable.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: But was it a Disco inferno?
trinque: only point I'm looking for an operator fee, can then do as many ops as one likes.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of "reality winner", why not go all out with it ? Other Leigh Person.
mircea_popescu: "and who did you see at the crime scene ?" "Other Person" "Ah, so not this one ? Thank you. Your honor, no further questions."
BingoBoingo: Lol!
BingoBoingo: Self indicting court reporters!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in butts, http://68.media.tumblr.com/8643b9d616549f295ff80d27172d179b/tumblr_npk3f6mHft1t629q4o1_500.gif
shinohai: Looks good fer buttcoin.
mircea_popescu: ehehe word.