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ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 22:19:01 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/03/cisco-lays-off-and-pivots-while-huawei-grows/ << Qntra -- Cisco Lays Off And Pivots While Huawei Grows

deedbot: dorion rated spyked 7 << owns feedbot and is mapping TMSR OS hardware. writes at thetarpit.org.

mod6: mircea_popescu: re: rss feeds & feedbot; will check it out. sounds like a good way to stay abreast.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-03#1957857 << two problems. firstly, how about you just use the rss feeds / feedbot for this purpose. and if you're unhappy with the waterhose, ask the people who do it to maybe make a special category or tag ? and if they don't, consider that maybe this means ~[http://thewhet.net/2020/02/the-basilikon-doron-or-royal-gift-a-constitutional/?b=Assume%20problems&e=head#select][you

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-15 17:57:50 feedbot: http://bingology.net/2020/argentina-getting-pissy-with-uruguay-envy/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Argentina Getting Pissy With Uruguay Envy

feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2020/botworks-ix << The Tar Pit -- Trilemabot and Feedbot V patches, the winter 2020 session

spyked: diana_coman, could you plox send me a transcript of your convo with feedbot? I wanna cross-check with what I have on my side. I think I got why the messages got sent after you unsubscribed, but it's weird that all trilema.com feeds would get removed (were you previously subscribed to anything other than the comments feed?)

diana_coman: perhaps we further found some bug(s) in feedbot given the above so even more good news and fronts and all that!

diana_coman: spyked: I gave up and unsubscribed from trilema's comments, feedbot confirmed (<feedbot> diana_coman is now unsubscribed from http://trilema.com/comments/feed/) and then 1 minute later, promptly fed me 2 more trilema comments; am I doing something wrong?

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-07 21:20:42 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/iran-declares-entire-usg-military-terrorists-begins-striking-terrorist-targets-hours-later/ << Qntra -- Iran Declares Entire USG Military Terrorists Begins Striking Terrorist Targets Hours Later

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-06 13:23:06 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/us-defense-secretarys-chief-of-staff-resigns-iraq-threatened-with-sanctions-for-expelling-usg-troops/ << Qntra -- US "Defense" Secretary's Chief Of Staff Resigns Iraq Threatened With Sanctions For Expelling USG Troops

spyked thinks feedbot should perhaps come with a "purge" command which deletes pending notifications

mircea_popescu: !Q later tell spyked yo, feedbot's unwinding the whole history of comments on trilema at me fo rsome reason, halp!

mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell spyked yo, feedbot's unwinding the whole history of comments on trilema at me fo rsome reason, halp!

mircea_popescu: the problem with multiple posts on the same exact second is that mpwp sorts them incorrectly. (like feedbot, gets them in reverse order).

spyked: mircea_popescu, I pushed a fix to feedbot, lessee how it works. I expect it should send the notifications in the correct order next time

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-29 03:31:50 diana_coman: spyked: doesn't feedbot report comments in order? it just reported in pm 3 comments on an article in reverse order (and a couple of hours late by the looks of it)

mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-29#1953802 << if it sees more than one new element it reports them in the order seen, which is counter-historical because for some reason rss is newmost on top and obviously irc is newmost on bottom. imo this needs a fix, have the list reversed on feedbot end.

diana_coman: spyked: doesn't feedbot report comments in order? it just reported in pm 3 comments on an article in reverse order (and a couple of hours late by the looks of it)

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-24 12:44:27 mircea_popescu: aand congrats spyked on the feedbot not falling down

hanbot: for the logs: he's talking about http://thewhet.net/my-channel-trilema-hanbot/ fwiw --i don't think feedbot picks up new blog *pages*

spyked: feedbot is back online, sorry for the downtime (biannual unplanned power outage at house mogosanu)

mp_en_viaje: spyked, weirdly enough, i've not been getting anymore feeds from feedbot since sun. is it brokt ?

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949269 <-- hm, I'd keep that distinct from the bot spec (which'd spec bot inputs/outputs and behaviour), but it does bring to light the question of whether feedbot should accept non-mp-wp-style feeds. on one hand I might want to subscribe to heathen feeds on the internets. on the other, the rift is growing anyway (e.g. feedbot doesn't do https), so it's pro

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 04:24:16 spyked: fwiw I don't believe this is flaw; the alternative would be for the bot to keep a list of all the items it's ever seen, but then it would be a list of all the items it's seen since the feed was first added to its db, which is an arbitrary cutoff point. wouldn't have prevented this spam anyway, since I've originally added the feed list to feedbot in 2018? and ossasepia's current rss goes all the way to 2017

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949252 <-- actually scratch that, there's *no* mandatory fields, ugh. so current feedbot code could still go nuts on some feeds.

spyked: altho ftr, most feeds currently handled by feedbot are wordpress rss, so if that gets declared the reference point, could use it as such

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949254 <-- there's no considerations re. order at the moment. a feed entry/item is uniquely identified by the "guid" field (there's a similar field for atom feeds, dun recall the name) and feedbot maintains a set of items for each feed in the db, also grabbing, when present, title, link etc.. so if remote end rss operator wants to add an item without a date

spyked: re. spec, I think there was an earlier trilema post on rss, I tried to dig it yesterday but couldn't find it. I think http://thetarpit.org/2019/feedbot-manual is the closest thing to a spec, but it's a spec for commands, not for other behaviours. bot behaviour is otherwise documented in http://thetarpit.org/2019/feedbot-i (and ii and iii in the same series)

spyked: fwiw I don't believe this is flaw; the alternative would be for the bot to keep a list of all the items it's ever seen, but then it would be a list of all the items it's seen since the feed was first added to its db, which is an arbitrary cutoff point. wouldn't have prevented this spam anyway, since I've originally added the feed list to feedbot in 2018? and ossasepia's current rss goes all the way to 2017

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 16:42:34 mircea_popescu: i mean, your rss page was 5 items, which feedbot knew ; then your rss page had 1k items, of which feedbot knew... the first five. so listed the rest.

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949184 <-- no, it's precisely http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949191 ; feedbot looks at the rss feed and a. updates its db to reflect what's on the remote end; and b. it queues notifications for items that weren't there on the previous visit.

mircea_popescu: i mean, your rss page was 5 items, which feedbot knew ; then your rss page had 1k items, of which feedbot knew... the first five. so listed the rest.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you mean some very old one triggered feedbot and then it didn't check, just kept going to the end?

mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/feed/rss/ << look it. feedbot skipped the one it saw, and...

deedbot: mp_en_viaje may not $down feedbot.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 23:50:28 feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Preliminary Inventory Of Items Once Hosted By Pizarro And Presently In My Care

feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/081-feedbot-manual.html

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-25 07:46:52 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, did subscribing to feedbot work? lemme know if it's giving you trouble.

spyked: asciilifeform, btw, did subscribing to feedbot work? lemme know if it's giving you trouble.

lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 15 hours and 2 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> can you add my www to feedbot-commentism roster plox ? ty

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-24 13:46:54 asciilifeform: !Qlater tell spyked can you add my www to feedbot-commentism roster plox ? ty

diana_coman: asciilifeform: all you need to do is to tell feedbot !1 follow loper-os/comments/feed or whatever the rss is; re your blog I suspect the comments-in-here is precisely because of the xor hurdle.

asciilifeform: !Qlater tell spyked can you add my www to feedbot-commentism roster plox ? ty

diana_coman: asciilifeform: ah, and now I think I got what you meant earlier re feedbot-comments and yes: I have feedbot announcing to me in private the comments on my blog too, certainly; works great, too!

asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have feedbot-comments set up ? ( i for instance do not, yet, tho afaik after recent fix my www supports comment-rss )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-24 13:00:05 feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/24/a-gulp-of-filthy-isp-waters/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Gulp of Filthy ISP Waters

diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-24#1947996 - also, wouldn't this have belonged as a comment there really? or some reason to comment on... feedbot's announcements?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-24 13:00:05 feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/24/a-gulp-of-filthy-isp-waters/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Gulp of Filthy ISP Waters

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 07:38:57 feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/liget-jo-legosszetettebbszohosszusagvilagrekorddonteskenyszerneurozistunetegyuttesmegnyilvanulasfejleszthetosegvizsgalataitokrol/ << Trilema -- Liget, j ? Legsszetettebbszhosszsgvilgrekorddntsknyszerneurzistnetegyttesmegnyilvnulsfejleszthetsgvizsglataitokrl!

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 15:20:41 feedbot: http://www.krankendenken.com/2019/10/debug_toggle_fixkvvpatch/ << Krankendenken -- debug_toggle_fix.kv.vpatch

lobbes: spyked: speaking of, would you be able to update feedbot for new feed? http://www.krankendenken.com/feed/

spyked: in related news, thetarpit.org will soon point to the same site as wp.thetarpit.org ; I'll temporarily disable thetarpit's feedbot feed while sorting this out, so I avoid any potential spam while at it

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: now you released the trackbacks and feedbot is foaming with them, lolz

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 14:43:49 ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 17:53:51 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/dutch-bulletproof-host-down-eurocops-plea-mirai-botnet/ << Qntra -- Dutch "Bulletproof" Host Down, EuroCops Plea "Mirai Botnet"

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 17:53:51 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/dutch-bulletproof-host-down-eurocops-plea-mirai-botnet/ << Qntra -- Dutch "Bulletproof" Host Down, EuroCops Plea "Mirai Botnet"

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940025 <-- indeed, feedbot and spykedbot already use this method. not sure if token even necessarily required forever, in practice will reconnect about once/month

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 02:30:34 feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a4-targoviste.html << The Tar Pit -- Trgovite

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 11:50:01 feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a3-thetarpit-lbs-genesis.html << The Tar Pit -- The Tar Pit Lisp Blog Scaffolding genesis

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 04:37:33 spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938376 <-- hm. I suppose feedbot could do something along the lines of "talk (via PM) only to people who are already +v in the channels where bot is listening"; either way, there's currently no strict enforcement in place, I'll add something if/when it becomes necessary

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 11:50:01 feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a3-thetarpit-lbs-genesis.html << The Tar Pit -- The Tar Pit Lisp Blog Scaffolding genesis

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 13:19:48 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.

spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938376 <-- hm. I suppose feedbot could do something along the lines of "talk (via PM) only to people who are already +v in the channels where bot is listening"; either way, there's currently no strict enforcement in place, I'll add something if/when it becomes necessary

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.

feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a2-botworks-viii.html << The Tar Pit -- Botworks: Trilemabot and Feedbot V patches, the autumn 2019 session

spyked: aaaand this should be all of feedbot's part/join spam for today, ty for bearing with it! also, removed http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933696 from #t's announce list (left a few of them in #s though)

spyked: achtung: I'm doing some maintenance/cleanup work on feedbot as a prelude to upcoming vpatch(es). the bot might go down a coupla times in the meanwhile, but shouldn't lose any feeds

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 02:03:25 feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/uptimefix_bye_cachekvvpatch/ << lobbesblog -- upti...atch

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 00:38:55 feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/linux-kernel-genesis-and-early-entropy-users/ << bvt's backtrace -- Linux kernel: genesis and early entropy users

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 13:08:20 diana_coman: aww, feedbot can't seem to keep up with the pace of trilema comments, lol

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932832 <-- hm. when I debugged feedbot, 1st thing I checked was how precisely it disconnects; found out that it was the ping-thread consistently calling ircbot-reconnect, which means that it timed out, i.e. [http://coad.thetarpit.org/feedbot/ircbot/c-ircbot.lisp.html#L91][ircbot-handle-pong

spyked: hm, it seems that feedbot forgot to deliver some posts today because of the changes I made yesterday. fixed this and will include changes in next vpatch

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 05:56:34 spyked: upstack re erlang: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930095 <-- imho doesn't sound bad at all, given that e.g. feedbot threads communicate exactly through this type of message queue. meanwhile, I notice that there's a "lisp-flavoured erlang" dialect on teh interwebz, but no idea if worth looking into it

diana_coman: feedbot is extremely useful to track all the comments + posts, basically I switched all to it and it's working great so far; there was the deluge of the after-break stuff coming in today but it's not a big issue (and it didn't choke on it either so all good)

mircea_popescu: ahh, feedbot conveniently pointed to me diana_coman 's comment. this thing is so fucking useful, making me look like a cyborg

spyked: upstack re erlang: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930095 <-- imho doesn't sound bad at all, given that e.g. feedbot threads communicate exactly through this type of message queue. meanwhile, I notice that there's a "lisp-flavoured erlang" dialect on teh interwebz, but no idea if worth looking into it

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 13:36:19 spyked: ^ ftr, this is an instance of ircbot sans the "pinger" thread and handling pings coming from the server. seems to be working fine (tho, in all fairness, so does feedbot for now)