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ben_vulpes: since when is the pogo my project?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: long thread re: pogo.
asciilifeform: also whoever it was who marvelled (l0l) at pogo being a 32bit arm - 64bit is lunacy on a box with 128m of ram and no swap
nubbins`: asciilifeform: my pogo has an eject button :S
nubbins`: which is what i followed to get my pogo up and running
asciilifeform: anyone here have pogo with debian running?
asciilifeform: i can tell none of you tried to build pogo's vendor kernel
nubbins`: and put into a pogo
trinque: any reason not to use pogo with an sd card for the blockchain?
ascii_field: for armv5 (pogo)
assbot: POGOPLUG MOBILE CLOUD DEVICE POGO-V4-A1-01 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HBgshv )
trinque: pogo 4?
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 23:14:45; danielpbarron: asciilifeform, what about gentoo on the pogo?
danielpbarron: his instructions were strictly for building bitcoind for pogo
danielpbarron: so far i've gotton both debian and archlinux to work on a pogo
danielpbarron: debian works well on pogo, i'm ircing from it right now
mircea_popescu: ok, so : pogo = arch as per ascii, static new bitcoind 32 bit as soon as foundation can bang it out.
danielpbarron: i mean, is the pogo being 32 bit a bigger problem? like is 32 bit becoming obsolete or something?
thestringpuller: is netbsd still going to be the pogo "base"?
mircea_popescu: mod6 so the emerging problem here is that while i said "ok" to 64 bit only foundation bitcoind, it turns out when need 32 bit support for our own fucking projects, which notably is the pogo.
danielpbarron: idk if this also means it won't work on pogo or what
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can you try it ? on a like... 3rd pogo ?
mircea_popescu: so basically, you put archlinux according to ascii_field's brew on the pogo, and then compiled a static foundation bitcoind and loaded that up, and that's what we have now ?
BingoBoingo: Well, the pogo hardware was never marketed with multithreading
nubbins`: if we're talking about a "pogo node" as a kit that one can purchase, i think, it's fine to start with w/e distro, booting from SD, skull-and-crossbones patches, w/e
BingoBoingo: There's concurrent pogo threads
nubbins`: i have pogo x2 on the way, i'm gonna dig into this
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo/howto.txt
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-config.txt
danielpbarron: i got your netbsd kernel to boot on the pogo; this is possible with openbsd as well?
danielpbarron: how hard would it be to get OpenBSD on a pogo? I've been idling in their channel but I'm not sure how productive it would be to just go "hey someone should start supporting this architecture for my pet project!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, speaking of this, what was the status of teh pogo project ? we ready to bake ?
ascii_field: pogo has 128m flash also
ascii_field: slightly faster than pogo, iirc
mircea_popescu: ahaha this is exactly a pogo
nubbins`: pogo is what, marvell kirkwood?
nubbins`: i wonder how much $$ pogo boards could be had for in quantity
danielpbarron: not the most scientific experiment as I didn't start them at the same place or same time, but it might be worth noting that the debug.log for the solid state drive pogo is smaller than the other one
asciilifeform: but it is precisely the sata - and the Gb ethernet - which make the pogo what it is
asciilifeform: i have reasons to suspect that the pogo-4 is not long for this world
danielpbarron: although still using gentoo on this laptop and debian on my irc server and ArchLinux on the pogo node
mod6: i feel like the pogo is hugely important for getting a large amount of nodes out there with 0.5.3.1, that's really exciting.
mod6: i saw thay you're getting close to 300k blocks on pogo, that's great work. keep it up!
asciilifeform: we have essentially that on pogo
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 00:29:13; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pogo_crate.jpg
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'pogo' contains a switchable-endianness micro
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu et al: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pogo_crate.jpg << woah!
asciilifeform: sorta like a 'pogo'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pogo_crate.jpg ☟︎
assbot: 238 results for 'pogo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pogo
funkenstein_: !s pogo
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ you could get a pogo.
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 17:10:55; ben_vulpes: your pogo saga's a good start
ben_vulpes: your pogo saga's a good start ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 14:46:42; nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun
mod6: *nod*, yeah i truthfully don't know much about the entire pogo thing.
nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun ☟︎
nubbins`: anyway, for those still trying to build linux for pogo
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well, if you manage to install OpenBSD it's basically closer to a normal OpenBSD environment than the pogo is.
danielpbarron: i feel like i'm in way over my head trying to figure out the pogo stuff without ever having done the same things on already well established paths
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back << Rather high
asciilifeform: unless somebody still wants 'pogo'
ben_vulpes: well i have non pogo tasks for you
cazalla: i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back
cazalla: well that's why i have a pogo otw
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> presently the only package of -source- i've succeeded in building into a kernel that can be used on pogo - was netbsd. << it's over. eat a strategic banana, let them have the abandoned fortresses, move to the hills and build batteries of cheapish ground and air control devices to hold no mans land, lick wounds, regroup.
cazalla: anyway, i have a pogo otw, we'll see what comes of that next week
asciilifeform: (my original vision for the 'pogo' experiment wasn't simply to have a cheapo linux box that runs bitcoind, but to have a box where there are only a few MB of weight -total- -- thus making audit into something like a realistic possibility)
asciilifeform: presently the only package of -source- i've succeeded in building into a kernel that can be used on pogo - was netbsd.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i am chatting from debian-on-a-pogo... << if danielpbarron (or anyone else) has -built- a linux kernel of whatever description, in such a way that it runs on pogo - please wake me up & show.
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2015 17:04:39; danielpbarron: i am chatting from debian-on-a-pogo -- it's very nice, and if anyone wants such a machine I highly recommend it
cazalla: mircea_popescu, they don't sell them locally, i am hopeful i can buy a plug it in and away it goes pogo from here once that is sorted
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2015#1051634 << try the pogo version ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so then it's more like, "can't get an os for pogo, we like to believe it can be done nevertheless" ?
asciilifeform: 2) find out why buildroot's kernel doesn't run on pogo
asciilifeform: two leads: 1) port whatever's in netbsd to openbsd to get it going on pogo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what's the situation here, can't get an os for pogo ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i spent quite a bit of time simply trying to get a vanilla linux kernel made with 'buildroot' (built for this very purpose - routers) to boot on pogo.
danielpbarron: i am chatting from debian-on-a-pogo -- it's very nice, and if anyone wants such a machine I highly recommend it ☟︎
danielpbarron: when that static build of bitcoind is ready, i'll try to compile it for pogo and see if it runs on debian
asciilifeform: what does this mean for pogo? << it means that one of you will have to come up with an os
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 01:43:22; asciilifeform: danielpbarron: iirc, openbsd will not see the nand flash on the 'pogo.'
danielpbarron: nearly cured of wanting anything whatsoever to do with netbsd << what does this mean for pogo?
mircea_popescu: right. in which line : since all hdds come reflashable anyway, how hard would it be to rape a ssd like we're raping the pogo, i wonder ?
mod6: so i'll re-submit that makefile patch and what will be v0.0.5 of the mod'd pogo script (with 'no-dso')
danielpbarron: mod6> danielpbarron: oh you're running this on ARM? this won't build on arm probably. << ahh you called it the "modified pogo script" which gave me the wrong impression.. but I understand what you meant now
mod6: yeah, that's required from the original pogo script.
mod6: so i made some additional changes to the modified pogo script. anyone wanna help me test quick? I tested it myself, but it'd be cool if someone else can verify.
danielpbarron: fyi the "blue" pogo (the one that doesn't have sata port) is works just like the purple one would if installing to a SD card
mike_c: their working on the pogo build!
thestringpuller: ascii_field and danielpbarron: generals of the pogo army
kakobrekla: speaking of xkcd, such pogo: http://xkcd.com/1495/
asciilifeform: now kakobrekla can buy pogo!
asciilifeform: the chip found in 'pogo', incidentally, has a somewhat dusty one
airgapped: I'm running it on latest rp but pogo looks like good alternative
assbot: 194 results for 'pogo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pogo
asciilifeform: !s pogo
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for airgapped with note: Working on the pogo thing.
mircea_popescu: sorry i mean the pogo not the pi
danielpbarron: airgapped, you might be intrested in this -> http://danielpbarron.com/pogo/howto.txt