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asciilifeform: an interesting exercise, for patient folks, is to follow the usg tendrils backwards in time, observing what subjects had been dealt with by seeding public forum with crank bait, long before 'blocksizs wars' etc.
asciilifeform: (largely propagated by naturally-occurring idiots, but usg wins from their existence and sometimes throws a bone, ensuring that their voice will be loud and clear in any nominally 'deviant' forum)
asciilifeform: yudkowsky & co 'debunk' any un-usgtronic item they can think of
mircea_popescu: kinda the strategy of that mini usg, "find pliable idiots in all fields, promote them, get payola when/if nsa needs some planting done"
asciilifeform: usg muppets are somewhat like roaches, except peculiarly intelligent ones which ~know about ddt~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re alts from earlier thread, seems like usg already just now picked successor turdcoin: https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2016/06/17/st-awards-199k-austin-based-factom-inc-iot-systems-security ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 14:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform next, watch the usg agents derping about how "cryptocurrency is dead because our shitscheme imploded" ; and once that goes nowhere, watch them come back to bitcoin to "fix" the "consensus problems" it "has".
mircea_popescu: you telling me the whole entire field of usgtronic plans collapsed suddenly and irretrievably one fine morning ?
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-strike-idUSKCN0Z306L << and lately USG helps Al Qaeda / ISIS to what end? presumably to light a fire all along the southern border of Russia.
mircea_popescu: there's no good way to distinguish sheer stupidity from randomness. the usg is ~about this dumb irl.
mircea_popescu: the ~only solution is, obviously, a withdrawal of the usg inside its borders. which has been happening and is accelerating.
mircea_popescu: this allows mp to turkey-ize the fake dollars, by denying a market to the usg agentura.
asciilifeform: in urbit's case, usg (in its andreessen horowitz face) is paying to keep a dozen bois fed ('press the clown face for a food pellet') and housed (subsidies to silicon valley land racket.) so about 1/1000th of a google.
mircea_popescu: this is currently, and for as long as it'll last, a black hole in the usg budget to parallel the f-35 airplane-coffeemaker-submarine combo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg.mit a further 20mn in the hole. an' the volume keeps on growing lolz.
mircea_popescu: awww! but ethereum continues to drop ? i thought the usg.mit.mongoloid party had "infinite funds"! !!!
mircea_popescu: mno, it was ripple v2.0, "usg must have a horse in the race".
mircea_popescu: the point is EXACTLY the same ineptitude of usgism that created the taliban, "russians must have competitor", and then the isis "taliban must have competitor" and so on.
asciilifeform: i dun get it. chumps bought in, usg (via shill exchanges) collected usd, btc, in return for shitcoin. that is now worth 0. what does usg lose ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. so they're in well over 100 fake mn by now. what's the usg.mit budget for propping up the scamcoin ? any guesses ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me loves how teh usg is spending its crap fiat to try and prop up a crap altcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform next, watch the usg agents derping about how "cryptocurrency is dead because our shitscheme imploded" ; and once that goes nowhere, watch them come back to bitcoin to "fix" the "consensus problems" it "has". ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 10:16 mircea_popescu: in other pokemon/ethereum/andreas poponautikos/mit shit labs/us democratic party/usg news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/ba9127e8cfc8b70a3ad1f32205a028df/tumblr_o46s3qwJ271sd8n5oo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: in other pokemon/ethereum/andreas poponautikos/mit shit labs/us democratic party/usg news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/ba9127e8cfc8b70a3ad1f32205a028df/tumblr_o46s3qwJ271sd8n5oo1_500.gif ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i do not have use for as much as a rotten end of a thread from usg. you follow this concept ?
mircea_popescu: not so. so far they're paying through the nose, a good two thirds of anything their subjects consume being the usg's own contribution.
asciilifeform: hence the resurrected 'missile shield' derpage - usg is again seeing the appeal of first strike
mircea_popescu: "usg runs a racket ; tmsr runs a ratchet."
asciilifeform: usg is at this very moment attempting a cleave of 'socialism fails'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this may be the most idiotic cockroach implanted by usg in programmer heads, "save time by not reading"
mircea_popescu: and how ? for one thing, "usg" scarcely mattered at the time. for the other, thebrits denied the russians their ports.
asciilifeform: usg.
mircea_popescu: but if you want to know how the usg corrupt class siphons the public hreasury - look no further. that's the system, "acquisitions", government-mandated, like facebook buying some derpy app for $random_sum, and so on. "we gave you free money, now you give it back" goes the story.
asciilifeform: but ephemeral keys are necessary because there is NO reason why usg should know which lord is speaking to which.
asciilifeform: and certainly not invented by usg stooge, it was in my comment series under mircea_popescu's original gossipd article.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: as reflected in the log search, marlinspike is usg asset and infamous pusher of crypto snakeoil.
asciilifeform: framedragger: moxie is usg stooge.
mircea_popescu: also of some (psychiatric) interest, the nonsensical attempt to equate "meaning" altogether, as the concept, with the shoddy, untenable implementation by usg & friends. "ip" is not the superset of noesis ffs.
asciilifeform: if thing is supplied by usg, whole thing 'probably' leaks 100% of bits to washington.
mircea_popescu: you keep re-injecting this "usg has a head" thing.
asciilifeform: the usg circus tricks weren't cheap, and were very clearly carried out with the assumption that no one would ever discover working crypto.
asciilifeform: at one point they were 'anonymous' but then merchants were usgized into collecting names, addressed; today they are largely used by lumpens who can't get normal phone (as it requires credit history)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform zee germanz had a small unit built at some point. then they tore it down because usg lobby for fucking them over ; ended up paying ~half a dollar per kW produced in "dismantling" costs.
asciilifeform: the most comical situation was of course in usgland. i was working at an army base, and there were the most titanically impressive generators i've ever seen, each easily the size of a train car, diesel cisterns two stories high, etc. BUT we still lost power in the lab. because somehow it wasn't connected to it.
mircea_popescu: it's plenty sexy. it resolves a number of notable problems, correctly - which is to say without support for usg.
asciilifeform: as for ddosing, usg infrastructure is ddosproof because they multi-head their dns or whatever the term was for the thing you can ONLY do with crapflare
mircea_popescu: being part of a usg "protected class" is insta-outlawry. everyone may take your shit, rape you and kill you, and nobody cares. serves you fucking right, shithead.
mircea_popescu: myeah i was looking more for a single line from credible souce. "pdf" from usg exact opposite on all scores.
asciilifeform: usg is just finding the ~new~ laffer curve!11111111111
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu were awake, he would probably describe the process as 'what the fuck is so surprising, gas let into an empty container will fill it' or similar. nobody is blowing up the police stations in response, so there is no back-pressure and usg can do whatever.
asciilifeform: but after that, voorhees moved on to illustrious career of spamming, mlm, and usg collaboaration..
a111: Logged on 2016-06-08 02:36 mircea_popescu: ie, more "visits" than average usg fishwrap gets in a week. none of them yielded anything ~whatsoever~, which discorages exactly no one.
trinque: they blackmailed usg into giving them tax exempt status
asciilifeform: afaik: 0 usg raids to date. 0 tax paid. 0 problemz.
asciilifeform: usg controls dns. hoster - server.
mircea_popescu: actually, maybe you explain this to me, since we're on it. what exactly can possibily fucking possess you to put your stuff on usg.imgur instead of building yout own platform ?
mircea_popescu: a) participated in usg scheme ; b) did not amass sufficient secret files to REALLY hurt the other participants.
mircea_popescu: ie, more "visits" than average usg fishwrap gets in a week. none of them yielded anything ~whatsoever~, which discorages exactly no one. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a major factor in the "i can't explain why the fuck this guy went all usgtronic".
asciilifeform: it is an Official usg thinktank now!111111
asciilifeform: sorta like what existing usg tries to do with nukes
asciilifeform: y wants to form an all-powerful usg-like stooge force to get between anyone who might be crafting 'rogue ai' (ai not designed by y and sycophants) and their work
asciilifeform: yudkowsky successfully bootstrapped his inner cult to the next level, of being a properly institutionalized and usgized org, and he didn't need the public www any moar.
mircea_popescu: ah ah. usg nigger cut funding ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 17:50 asciilifeform: specifically to 'we do not want to be bitcoin, bitcoin users will be crushed by usg'
asciilifeform: specifically to 'we do not want to be bitcoin, bitcoin users will be crushed by usg' ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'no motivation to pester' thing is possibly changing, as ro is slowly converted into usg forward base
asciilifeform: and, what, his shithub key just 'happened' to leak, this piece was planted therein, usgarchive.org just 'happened' to cache the page right before deleted, etc. ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477534 << lel and the moron thought he'd actually collect his reward (what?) for faithfully fellating usg, censoring the docs ☝︎
ben_vulpes: meanwhile france is usg because if yer not with us yer against us (tm) (r) ?
a111: Logged on 2015-09-12 17:11 asciilifeform: in other news, http://taler.net << the usg-approved, built-in-tax-collector-and-stoolie altcoin is finally rolled out.
asciilifeform: mr mold was a hilarious source of trivia re 100 yrs of usg rot. e.g., how kgb owned state dept., how prestige farming works in detail, etc. none of it original to him, he simply dug up the primary sources, best as he could. hence his nick.
asciilifeform: 'his' in the same sense a usg carrier is the captain's.
asciilifeform: when you pile up usgola, you get megalomaniacal constructions with 0 insight. precisely the calutron from the previous thread.
asciilifeform: automated proofs are usg crapolade, i speak as a reformed and repented purveyor
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 15:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even a matter of sons ; the usg has no sons, nor any vigor in the seed. it's a matter of desperation - everything americans don't buy, the chinese buy, take apart and move to china.
mircea_popescu: check it out, usg so desperate is even trying to co-opt shambling forum scams now.
mircea_popescu: and so the matter settled : what started on may 25th as a slight disparity between the usg faux bitcoin exchanges trading at 448 (bitfinex isn't inclued here, having nothing to do with bitcoin altogether) while btcchina was reporting 455 (and 2/3 of the total volume), eventually peaked out at 510/580 (with btcchina still doing 2/3 of the volume) and eventually settled at 530/540. the moral that "you should have yielded rather
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow muhammad offers a gram more petrocheese / unit time than usg.yelp.ceo.my, she's gone.
mircea_popescu: so the various usg exchanges doing fuckall volume are STILL clinging on to their delusional notions of what the price is, days later.
asciilifeform: and not get molested orifices by usg
mircea_popescu: you totally need to start running a blog and stop ugc-ing your productions away to the usg.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: literally that is the url. May or may not have, but gets interesting USG surplus from time to time. Gott get it when they have it before it sells out.
asciilifeform: why would usg care how many bystanders are bagged?
asciilifeform: swat was the usg answer to ^
asciilifeform: usg handed out for phree
mircea_popescu: imagine, usg.mit actually has derpy 20something chicks so fucking insane, they run out to whore for it. FOR IT!
BingoBoingo: AHA, but in Stl you are a short drive from places Legit USG battle flag flies in the Ozarks. Where War of Northern Aggression is still active.
asciilifeform: hey last i heard usg flag was flying in these lands also.
BingoBoingo: And yet swamp and USG
mircea_popescu: the derpy "watch a video for bitcoin" thing is just what you'd expect out of usgistan. meanwhile, a irc-bot driven client that does ethernet and computation, and charges for these would be pretty sweet.
asciilifeform: isn't that an elementary part of mircea_popescu's observation re 'usg corporate shield that you must break and re-personalize the interaction'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing fantastic, usg lawyer is not 'liberal profession' but a type of clerk.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i honestly don't give a shit what small national governments think they're doing or not doing or whatever. "lithuania" the subject of law is as unrecognized as usg is. no relation to anything, no power to anything, they can write bluntman and chronic comics about how "it is" an' "keep it real" if they so wish.
mircea_popescu: awww look at that, goonswarm (game group of SA [sort-of the center of the ~male libtard internet, like the action movies to go with gawker&whatever, mostly famous for providing usg agent biomaterial for middle east bodybags]) has been getting raped in eve (a derpy game about "space" that mostly consists of spreadsheets. we used to have a guild there too) got raped. they lost about as much territory since 2010ish as the us los
mircea_popescu: we totally have to introduce a secrecy system because look how well it worked for the usgistans.
mircea_popescu: but at any rate this conversation definitely lays bare just how badly we've missed the boat by not increasing blocksize when usgavin wanted to.
mircea_popescu: basically some usg assholes tried to hijack the bitcoin. trb aka the real bitcoin is the... well, the real bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: shinohai well, the usg party is ever less confident they'll get much over a summer of forks ; "ethereum is good" was the backup.
mircea_popescu: ie, an individual usg black dude sided with the usg side.