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diana_coman: testing 1, 2, 3: nicoleci, http://bimbo.club/?p=16&cpage=1#comment-8
mircea_popescu: think of the whole opposability angle, will you. 1. alf : "your summaries suck" 2. bimbo "master, is this true ?" now i'm stuck. i'm not going to do a 3.b. "yes, because i like him" and i can't do a 3.a. "yes, because ~SOMETHING~" as the something's an undefined symbol. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and for that matter the previous 2 crates.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that lulazon simply pockets that 62.18, and the orcs never see it; or alternatively, an orc pockets, off-record, and then pretends 'was 1 of 2 max free imports'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lemme know how it goes. this is 1st time i hear of any such thing re 'can only have 2 imports'
diana_coman: not a bad idea at all; at it's simplest I was thinking simply serial numbering the payloads and logging on both sides since putting together the 2 logs afterwards is straightforward, 1-line thing
asciilifeform: i'm not averse to regrinding things, vtron that understands 2 types of hash inside 1 tree is prolly too much to ask for; but at the very least i gotta be able to distinguish old form from new by file ext., for own workflow.
Mocky: construction workers for their 2022 world cup stadii firmly in gulag, unpaid for year+, dying at a rate of 1 every 2 days, according to The Guardian ~2014 ☟︎
Mocky: seems like whole service industry is such a gulag for 1) indians 2) pakis 3) filipinos
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:06 mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can't be done ?
asciilifeform: for another gen or 2, i'd imagine yes
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 16:06 diana_coman: anyways, rounding up, it seems my next step here is to 1. set up the testing harness http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-9-18#431515 2. put asciilifeform's lib to use in smg.comms
asciilifeform: diana_coman: last (for nao) observation -- 1) it is possible to make the thing 'fancier' in 2 ways -- can make Socket a 'controlled type' ( as i did in mmap, see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850368 ) , then it can close itself when going out of scope. i did not do this, as it adds a bit of overhead 2) it is possible to make the lib a 'generic' ( again see horsecocks re how ) , and make udptrons of different packet length runti ☝︎
diana_coman: anyways, rounding up, it seems my next step here is to 1. set up the testing harness http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-9-18#431515 2. put asciilifeform's lib to use in smg.comms ☟︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 14:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851155 << speaking of which, what's our next step here ? 1. wanna do cpu timing/load comparisons on the two libs ? 2. say that given the nature of the task (many different folk are expected to implement clients on various platforms) thin c is better than straight asm because more widely spoken and also presumably more portable/less friable ? 3. somethi
diana_coman: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-9-18#431566 -> I'm thinking of 2 there ; asciilifeform's lib also provides I think a good interface - I don't see any reason why one couldn't just change /swap the underlying .c file with ada or asm at a later date without having to change otherwise anything of whatever one builds on top of the lib (i.e. relying on the lib's interface)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that he followed same method as described in his http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-zero-foot-print-take-2-no-c item ( which i suggested a long time ago ), simply take the calls & translate by hand into the linux abi convention
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 13:46 diana_coman: it's not fully clear to me if it's something needed /desired atm; at any rate, compared to where I was 2 days ago, it's great - all of a sudden it went from "need to do this from scratch, ugh" to "there are 2 republican libs with 2 approaches, which one fits best my needs?" ; I'm rather delighted to be honest
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851155 << speaking of which, what's our next step here ? 1. wanna do cpu timing/load comparisons on the two libs ? 2. say that given the nature of the task (many different folk are expected to implement clients on various platforms) thin c is better than straight asm because more widely spoken and also presumably more portable/less friable ? 3. something else ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman: to round this whole thing up: 2 days ago it seemed I had only the gnat.sockets/ thin layer option which wasn't fit for purpose; now I have 2 more options: << it's been an epic few days! (what happened ?)
diana_coman: it's not fully clear to me if it's something needed /desired atm; at any rate, compared to where I was 2 days ago, it's great - all of a sudden it went from "need to do this from scratch, ugh" to "there are 2 republican libs with 2 approaches, which one fits best my needs?" ; I'm rather delighted to be honest ☟︎
asciilifeform: 2) 'when i ditch unix, the api should continue to make exactly same amt of sense as before'
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-18 12:37 diana_coman: to round this whole thing up: 2 days ago it seemed I had only the gnat.sockets/ thin layer option which wasn't fit for purpose; now I have 2 more options: 1. ave1's ADA implementation of UDP sockets using directly ASM inline 2. asciilifeform's light UDP sockets lib that uses C code for needed UDP sockets calls but provides an Ada wrapper so that any code using the lib can call Ada methods
diana_coman: to round this whole thing up: 2 days ago it seemed I had only the gnat.sockets/ thin layer option which wasn't fit for purpose; now I have 2 more options: 1. ave1's ADA implementation of UDP sockets using directly ASM inline 2. asciilifeform's light UDP sockets lib that uses C code for needed UDP sockets calls but provides an Ada wrapper so that any code using the lib can call Ada methods only
mod6: These guys are like: 1) enter 2) shit 3) leave 4) change nicl
mircea_popescu: https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19030813.2.6&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1 <
mircea_popescu: it is ~they~ who fail to understand human emotions ; and predfctably attempt to replace the actual complexity of human emotions with a 1-2-3 cliffnote constructed out of their own stunted half-brain. why actual humans would permit this sham is beyond fucking comprehension, and an outrage outright.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-15 14:42 asciilifeform: this makes for 2 working keccaks nao, unless i'm forgetting somebody's
asciilifeform: this makes for 2 working keccaks nao, unless i'm forgetting somebody's ☟︎
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-part-2-cl-keccak/ << esthlos - esthlos-v Part 2: cl-keccak
Mocky: not all that much of a hurricane here but powers been out at least 2 dozen times for about a minute each.
mircea_popescu: s/1/2/
asciilifeform: so in this model you'd have 2 routines, 1 which takes a port, listens on it, and comes back 'someday' with a 512byte buffer fulla packet and the originator ip ; and another that eats a 512byte buffer and a dest ip, and returns immediately.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dun have to be right now, can go in the morning. and when you do, also plz retrieve the 2 retired usb stix from dulap, they've been zero'd
mircea_popescu: actually, the us has a direct implementation of the idea -- can take a free 2 week vacation in florida on premises of people who aim to sell you real estate.
mircea_popescu: oh, and of course $1 $2 AND $? are magic words.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, between the "googleapis", the "google fgonts", "google advertising" and "analytics" and 2-3 other culprits, google gets half dozen+ cookies loaded into your browser PER "3rd party" page.
asciilifeform: diana_coman and mod6 will be bitwise-copied to the 2 virginal spares today, and the entire cluster will be moved onto new sticks . the latter will be obtained asap.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, can the disk be connected to the working rockchip itself so I rummage there? atm it seems it's only the very latest comments that'd be lost so I'm in 2 minds about it anyway
asciilifeform: on the most recent occasion when i re-imaged rk ( actually 2 of'em ) i tested all 6.
asciilifeform: rather like 2 people sitting on 1 telephone wire.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG all pizarro rockchip customers ! if you modified your /etc/conf.d/net , in recent 2 weeks, plz say ! asciilifeform currently suspects that somebody munged theirs, and it may account for diana_coman's unreachable box, we may have to take the pilot plant down for maintenance and manually dig, if nobody says anyffing
mircea_popescu: also part and parcel of this conversation, http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/#footnote_2_59725 & http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738350 ☝︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 2 hours and 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> the link http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html on yer www, appears dead
mircea_popescu: like the world of literate egyptian in http://trilema.com/2014/more-about-caesar-cyphers/#footnote_2_52126
mircea_popescu: note that the prussian system (which is the upper node of what contemporary dork calls "school", and it is a SYSTEM, more complex than just that) is not even 2 centuries yet.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 14:16 asciilifeform: esthlos: http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-09-08_4 << was re ww1, not 2
asciilifeform: esthlos: http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-09-08_4 << was re ww1, not 2 ☟︎
lobbesbot: esthlos: Sent 2 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, and 51 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-08-17_1 << again it's 'phuctor' , not 'phunctor'
mircea_popescu: esthlos : http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-09-01_2 << "the"
asciilifeform: aa hm there's 2 of'em?
mircea_popescu: illustrative example : 1. ruler says "whosoever eats this delicious treat will be whipped". 2. john and jane eat it. 3. john is brought for judgement, "wtf ?" "i did not understrand eating the treat i ate is the eating of the treat you were talking about" "a ok, moron" ; 4. jane is brought for judgement, "wtf ?" "i did not understand you saying so and so whipping applies to me." "what ?" "i am pregnant."
asciilifeform: i see 2 separate q here -- a) 'can evolve this from earthlings' (possibly not, path-dependent) b) 'could physically exist such a critter' ( unknown, but i dun see any fundamental whynot )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-07 14:39 deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections.
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: stage 2 : the french grasp that the end of feudalism is not "progress", but literal "the end", proceed to huge party called napoleon ; the brits copy them some half century later, except their idea of a party is victorian england
BingoBoingo: In still other news about 2 blocks away 10 construction workers fell, they just wanted to diy scaffolding...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, asciilifeform's intake of c. s. lewis was in 1991, he was not printed afaik in su, but hey, perestroika, and suddenly translated and printed on toiletpaper and sold at fleamarket by crypto-evangiderps. brother picked up the series, i barfed on vol.2 where lion jizzus dies 'for our sins', fin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is pioneering internet work, as far as i know never before seen. 1. "here are your options" "omfg i am a special snowflake i won't take any of those" ; 2. "you have no options" "omfg i shoulds have some options!!" "you had."
asciilifeform: in other noose, trad-gentoo's crossdev is completely rotten nao, tries to build glibc-2.27 (which is broken, as it won't build with any version of 'ld' i was able to find, full stop) EVEN WHEN YOU CROSSDEV ....linux-musl !!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847949 << possibly i'm think, but what is comparable here ? the 2 characters dun have same options, as treated at length in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847940 & elsewhere ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: today mircea_popescu pumps 100,000 litres of ocean water and finds 1-2 chix that can pgp. but what if had to pump 10,000,000 litres, and got 1 chix, and she looked like emmy noether, what then.
ave1: trinque, re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-03#1847167, yes turned out the git that cuntoo uses did not support https and my ufw settings did not allow an outgoing git port number. Now it fails it a bit further along with dependencies on gnupg-2.2, but I think this was a known breakage... ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is always possible that i am wrong about some ( who knows, all ) piece. sorta why it is good to have dozen d00dz, vs 1 or 2, with hands growing from correct place
a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 15:29 asciilifeform: now what i ~have~ wanted to bake, for years nao, is a box with ~2~ jacks, that tests rsa sigs on specially-defined packets at line speed, and drops all the ones that dun pass. this is imho the Right Thing, for entirely curing the disease in question.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 18:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we had any fab capacity to speak of, these'd be the priority items : 1) large homogeneous fpga 2) otp roms 3) 1+2
mircea_popescu: why 2 ?
asciilifeform: would need 1) fab capability 2) substantial time, unless mircea_popescu has a coupla qualified pairs of hands up his sleeve to assist
asciilifeform: now what i ~have~ wanted to bake, for years nao, is a box with ~2~ jacks, that tests rsa sigs on specially-defined packets at line speed, and drops all the ones that dun pass. this is imho the Right Thing, for entirely curing the disease in question. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 21:28 diana_coman: after reading around on this mess with the usb speeds, the summary + questions would be: 1. the dwc_otg seems actually specific to raspberry pi so I don't see how it's directly useful atm; am I missing something? 2. the manual/runtime pill so far relies on the companion mechanism to force a USB port down from "high speed" to "full speed" so basically from ehci to uhci/ohci; wouldn't it make more sense to blacklist ehci, xhci and whatever
mircea_popescu: for humans, 6k psi ~= 40 kn/mm^2
mircea_popescu: !!pay Mocky 2
a111: Logged on 2018-09-02 16:21 asciilifeform: in (mostly) unrelated lulz, recently asciilifeform found himself visiting several different crapple shops, and standing in a queue for hours, sov-style, simply to submit for repair a crapple lappy (2 yr old !) with swollen battery, whole thing looked like spoiled food tin
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 2 hours and 53 minutes ago: <Mocky_phone> my internet went down last night. helpful cable guy scheduled to show up on tuesday
asciilifeform: in (mostly) unrelated lulz, recently asciilifeform found himself visiting several different crapple shops, and standing in a queue for hours, sov-style, simply to submit for repair a crapple lappy (2 yr old !) with swollen battery, whole thing looked like spoiled food tin ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( for those who did not follow the orig c101pa threads : the box has ~three~ firmware turds: 1) main (8MB) bootloader 2) EC (little arm thingie, has own console , controls all of kbd but the power and reset lines, as well as various voltages, and battery charger) 3) cr50 -- controls power/reset lines, inits the charging brick, and 'god mode' debug over the other 2 chips, i.e. cpu and EC )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last week << '2 years ago' in text
mircea_popescu: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-6119303/Suicide-bomber-kills-2-Iraq-policemen-security-official.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490 << etc.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/and-now-for-part-2-of-our-smash-hit-hey-stupid-women-we-need-to-talk-smart-women-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-with-you-anymore/ < that.
Mocky: 2 months
mircea_popescu: 2 + 1 extensible ?
Mocky: 2-3 months sounds reasonable
mircea_popescu: i figure... you get what 2 ? 3 ? months there until the first save point, see if it can be done or can't be done ? ☟︎
hanbot: ~500. ~2 yrs.
asciilifeform: how to do : it charges cap ( the demo unit i have here from china, has 4 1F 2.2v caps ) and runs a boost converter from these, as well as lighting up 'power good' pin when 3.3v (from the latter) is available. so you put a test load on the 3.3v out ( say , 1W 100 ohm resistor ) and record events when 'power good' signal changes.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 2 hours and 47 minutes ago: <lobbes> #e logs are updating again >> http://logs.minigame.biz/latest.log.html
asciilifeform: or, mircea_popescu , also incl with 2 ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes but the idea is to have one in latex supervising 2-3 in the buff!
mircea_popescu: well, "short drive". 800 or so miles, which to me still counts as "one day drive". as opposed to say 2.2k miles portland-austin.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 22:45 lobbes: psa: looks like my box that houses the archive-o-matic went offline on Friday. It back up and eating through backlog; www should update sometime in the next ~ 2 hours >> http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view_domains.php
mircea_popescu: but i'm also sure our funels are slack by that sure and unerring sign, that noobs wander in ~here~. it's 1000% easier to get someone interested in "bicoin mmo" than in terrorist organisation ; and maybe 5000% easier to get them interested in "clean reliable hosting". so if in spite of that immense differential #trilema still beats out #pizarro, it means the pizarro funel works at 0.2% efficiency at the very most. which can't
a111: Logged on 2018-01-02 18:35 mircea_popescu: http://www.freegameempire.com/Img/Cache/Games/Blockout/Screenshot-2.png < item
deedbot: mod6 canceled lobbes invoice 2
mod6: !!cancel-invoice lobbes 2
mod6: power went out for about 2 hours. that was interesting
mircea_popescu: 1 gets around the limit on urlencoded puts ; 2 gets around the issues gpg has with command line.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842694 << i'd like to expand on this. 1) to dump a file, the better format is curl -Ls -o /dev/null -w %{url_effective} -X POST -F "pastebox=@file.asc" http://p.bvulpes.com -w %{url_effective} ; 2. to dump a pipe/process, the better format is eg item=`cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | gpg --yes --no-tty --trust-model always -aer mod6`; echo $(curl -Ls -o /dev/null -w %{url_effective} -X POST -F "paste ☝︎
mircea_popescu: " 1. phuctor gets search feature 2. phuctor then runs out of disk"
mircea_popescu: "2. mp combats retarded gringos oogling his domestic arrangements"
diana_away: there were 2, curled up and twitching their ears only