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mircea_popescu: i don't fucking posit, "oh, they were all people, and here's how peopledom goes, on basis of this example i misrecollect"
mircea_popescu: i don't even disagree! everything ever will match this model!
mircea_popescu: you understand this, if i and you are florentines, and you teach me the facts of life, there's a very fundamental difference between "a. get boat ; b. use lodestone, navigate ; c. find curio ; d. bring back home. e. trade for lots of dough and good things, including a desdemona ; f. strangle her for being a whore" whether i say "i don't know this lodestone model be worth my time" or i say "i dunno this strangling be worth my
mircea_popescu: in short, i don't mean that it dun persuade me "it's the case". it dun persuade me it's worth my time as a model.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe there's necessarily an answer at all, let alone in o(1).
mircea_popescu: don't tell me "grew on land king gave you" lest i fall over.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how the fuck they expect to make those pipes work is anyone's guess. "rubber", as fucking if. << If I went back to old country I don't think I could ever buy a house after seeing the local concrete glory.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect the Italians hated the boat and don't subsidize hawaiian cane sugar
diana_coman: I don't quite parse that
mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily kid if i call my car carsy either.
diana_coman: jurov, admittedly I never used CoinBr so don't know much of its previous online presence but I always thought "online" for such a thing meant mpex-style i.e. anyway gpg-based , no?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know if anyone asked - I've stated it in the blogpost in clear just the same
mircea_popescu: i confess i'm mildly concerned when i don't see these "well understood" shits.
mircea_popescu: the original said "The French don't like being famous for their incapacity of being on time ? Let them fix their watches somehow to the same hour, so they quit going about Paris, apparent adults, with half hour's delta among what their watches show. " and i'm willing to attest even as late as LAST DECADE this was a factual state of affairs.
phf: i don't understand how anyone can read the logs with one eye, this shit's exponential: i'm behind on ffa, so the recent work on e.g. gcd or miller-rabin is particularly slow going.
diana_coman: anyways, I'm not pushing this strongly as "this is how I actually think it was" - as I said previously, I don't think I know enough to have much to say either way
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-26#1890228 sadly I don't have proof for it ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't know that there ever was a "conviction" that stood other than by sheer disinterest of the convicted.
mircea_popescu: in the end, "the smart don't like the intelligent" is the exact male equiv of ye female http://trilema.com/2016/the-pedoepiphany/ ; or in the immortal words of http://trilema.com/2014/millers-crossing/ " You are so goddamn smart. Except you ain't. I get you, smart guy. I know what you are. Straight as a corkscrew. Mr. Inside-Outski, like some goddamn Bolshevik picking up his orders from Yegg Central. You think you're so godda
mircea_popescu: i don't even remember ~when~ i last compiled apache.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect I know where your point is going, but at this time we don't yet need a violin. We're still trying to sit in chairs without finding out ass navigating debris on its way to the ground.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there even exists a publication currently that manages 500 reader-days. period and full stop, the fucking bible doesn't get that.
mircea_popescu: vaguely reminescent of occasional fetard going "i don't know you" / occasional moron going "this trilema article is too long and complicated for my understander".
mircea_popescu: this is pretty fucking amusing to me, too. "oh, i don't understand the kids... and this is my problem". bitch... if i don't understand them i don't feed them, this "you don't understand me" is just about "tomorrow, i die", naught else. let them fucking work ass off to be understood, wtf, you want me to do it ?!
mircea_popescu: i don't get why they can't simply use a mirror / scintillator / something.
mircea_popescu: there's that old joke re "i read good books twice but bad books i don't read at all" which very much applies : if only one knew before looking whether an algo is fast or slow!
bvt: nope, but there were a few mentions of other algorithms in the logs, so i decided to have a look. don't remember how i arrived at this particular one
asciilifeform: bvt: i don't, which is why never bothered with fft
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
bvt: as far as code speed is concerned, i still don't know whether i fucked up something, or the algorithm is fundamentally slow after some bignum size
mircea_popescu: i don't even need to declassify anything to make it plainly evident shannon kent wasted her youth on java.
mircea_popescu: i still don't see the problem, 1 in 6 failure rate ? was the one closest to the suspected hotbox from prev week ?
a111: Logged on 2015-09-03 01:38 asciilifeform: e.g. there is no 'i don't care if the chicken ate gmo corn but please no antibiotic' shop
a111: Logged on 2016-02-15 17:58 asciilifeform: specifically how there is no place in usa where one can 'i will pay double for non-monsanto but i don't give a fuck about 'gmo' and i sure as fuck don't want to see homeopathic crud in the shop'
mircea_popescu: specific example of why i say war is fun -- not only losses don't count, but their replenishment consists of fucking a buncha women, whether they want to or not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. tech transferred for i don't recall what economic deal in the 70s
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-16#1887550 << You want the kind of expanding anchor that mushrooms into a giant claw on the other side. I don't know what they are called here yet, but in old country "Molly bolt" was the term. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how these misfortunate kids are supposed to respect the human failures using them for props.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This time, don't saw your toothbrush. I can put together a reception basket with human sized toothbrush.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect they'd know what to do to those.
mircea_popescu: i recall folks asking, and you saying ok, rather than "you know what... i don't even recall who made this kernel, maybe i remake it when i have time befgore oking this"
trinque: ftr I don't need a month's comp for a few hours of outage, though a few hours of outage does suck.
asciilifeform: i can't picture that any literate folx don't
mod6: I don't doubt. That seems off for sure.
BingoBoingo: Please deliver instructions in #pizarro as I don't know how much log troubleshooting is going to generate
mircea_popescu: should be in http://minigame.biz/jurov/Eulora-client.git i don't expect anyone deleted it
mircea_popescu: i don't expect anything useful could be had in a timeframe shorter than re-doing all of bitcoin. it's a large box etc.
mircea_popescu: because i can see why someone'd go, "eh, whatever, thirty heathens to the cent, i don't even mind paying". as per ye even older http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-21#1026639 ☝︎
trinque: don't know if y'all have a realistic perception of what sales takes, and "I'm gonna sell my way into the black in two months" sounds like.
diana_coman: trinque, for s.mg it's less straightforward and it's not even just a matter of backups only; at any rate, it's at best "starvation mode" so I don't see how it really gets pizarro out of trouble; so far it's not even clear that *price* is the trouble re converting really; is it?
diana_coman: and I still don't know how many...
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:53 BingoBoingo: trinque: I don't have concrete plans. The major part of the DC cost is pipe rather than rack. Renegotiating for less pipe with the datacenter would change the costs we are basing our colocation price off of as well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't know that there's anything wrong with returning gcd of 0,0 as 0. in my abstract mental model wherein 1 is a divisor of all numbers, gcd 0,0 =1, and furthermore 0 can never be a divisor of anything ; but this purely set-driven problem is inconsequential in boole's alt-world afaak.
trinque: I don't see why you'd change your pricing at all if it turns out nobody's using the capacity.
BingoBoingo: trinque: I don't have concrete plans. The major part of the DC cost is pipe rather than rack. Renegotiating for less pipe with the datacenter would change the costs we are basing our colocation price off of as well. ☟︎
diana_coman: other than that the "reason" I can see is that otherwise in principle you need an additional check each time you call gcd (i.e. to make sure you don't step even if once in a blue moon) on this particular rake
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, I can't say that I have a very clear idea of ALL potential implications but atm I don't see some specific downside to that; I suppose the alternative would be to raise an error on gcd(0,0)?
lobbes: auctionbot was down for ~9 hours today (back online now). I'm going to give a 100 ecu per auction hour credit to everyone who had auctions going during this downtime, since no one could put in bids during that time and I don't wanna charge fees for those hours. Thinking I'll make this standard policy going forward
diana_coman: ave1, hm, I did look in there when I made the first go aka I compiled step by step the whole thing; but I don't recollect any real alternative to the standalone lib if one wants to pack the code really
diana_coman: i.e. if you want to call ada from something-else main then you don't really have any choice that works other than this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform IF rm doesn't take much time, THEN i don't see the point of doing any gcd. because r-m is a complete test for what we need, and gcd is not.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the point.
mircea_popescu: i honestly could as well see it, for the same money i don't see it. not like it costs me.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe you're right, and the problem is i've predetermined not to see it. but then again this is a terrifyingly weak argument, because of its association with a dutch moron called søren, whose bright idea it was to propose that the reason you don't see what distinguishes his fsm from all the others is that you don't want to!!!
mircea_popescu: when i discuss some random cuntlet and you propose she's inexistent, i get you concretes. when you discuss some imaginary item, you don't extend the same courtesy.
mircea_popescu: the reason i wrote http://trilema.com/2018/patriarchy-vs-matriarchy-the-straight-dope/ wasn't that i was bored that day ; or that i don't like people. for as long as you continue thinking your value is established by some woman, you will continue having the same ~type~ of problems. they can be colored any way you like, and lives can readily be spent in that coloring exercise ; but as far as substance is concerned they will be
phf: i don't see sharing of parts, or the whole with asciilifeform under whatever terms, etc. irrespective of what will be done as resolving anything: i made original promises in good faith, and i'll be breaking them. my ideas of how to work around that were idiotic and in retrospect that was an obvious mistake, which ftr asciilifeform avoided by refusing any kind of dealings. on the other hand the point
phf: "talking past each other" comment was on point, i don't know about asciilifeform, but i was just shouting.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884626 << i wasn't meditating, i just don't have the mental energy to defend myself. i'm in russia primarily to take care of my grandmother who has dementia, and she was in a pretty critical state when i got here. i'm sure it'll stabilize, but as of right now i don't trust myself to have rational conversations around sensitive subjects online. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't recall any villein serfs going around derping about http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884205 / http://trilema.com/2014/agency-and-other-notes/#selection-31.0-31.271 five centuries ago. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't get it how you expect to multiply some value by a (product of primes +1) and not get an even number.
diana_coman: well, I hardly see how you can *stop* people from using it directly or why exactly; and the endian + div0 don't sound like a huge layer anyway
mircea_popescu: i don't know what you're astonished at ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, sometimes I wonder what exactly do you think you need/don't have to move to Romania or wherever else you consider it to be "paradise, can now do just ffa/trb/..."
a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 23:51 phf: asciilifeform: i don't have binary diffing even in prototype form, if you could adaize your needleman-wunsch i could add it to vtools, the way i did with diana_coman's keccak
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it can be beat for mod work
stratum: If individuals want to communicate using heavily encrypted sneakernet to avoid NSA goons, that is certainly okay by me. But I don't see that happening for the billions any time soon. ☟︎
stratum: Most people don't even have one "box" -- More and more browsing from their phones as their sole computing device, billions of them. I think there is a disconnect in what we're discussing: which is why I mention RMS and his helpers.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884068 << i don';t expect any of the ten thousand fly eyes has a dec, ever had a dec, or can come up with any actual use for a dec. or for that matter care to know whether their code doesn't work at all. different paradigm!!! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 16:36 diana_coman: well, it's meant as replacement not as alternative so I don't see why would one keep the sha patches; onth replacement in place aka no name change doesn't break anything either
diana_coman: ftr I had to refresh a bit on Knuth Vol 2 at some point but I don't see that as a minus at all
diana_coman: well, it's meant as replacement not as alternative so I don't see why would one keep the sha patches; onth replacement in place aka no name change doesn't break anything either ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 06:54 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, what about it ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, what about it ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: cuz that is the fucking job of the producer, i don't care what "american moron's association" "trade practices" are. as long as it's a set, and something'\s shooting, the producer's job is to rape the talent.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/i-dont-get-it/ << Trilema -- I don't get it...
BingoBoingo: I'll put some time into reading up on weechat. The opposition is at the moment I just don't know much about it.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure how that kelvin thing's supposed to work ; notably bothj knuth and mod6 attempted it, but the problem with starting with a number is that you don't know what to pick.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i don't even consider fettards delivered to this world in that same five year plan the "reforms" came.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << always a great idea. people ~should~ have ample opportunity to discover how insufficient, unimpressive, etcetera they are. i don't mean "fair" opportunity, ie, a 9mn% increase over what their environment currently provides. i mean fucking ample. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think it's underhanded in the sense i don't think underhanded means anything in the context. there's a very strict difference between the priviledged and the unpriviledged position, "only do those things specifically allowed" vs "do all things not specifically forbidden". while you'd expect a customer to only read mail addressed to him, it's iffy whether you expect the post office to read all mail it can
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 17:13 mats: i checked my notes, i have had 4 separate tx (with -connect set exclusively to advertised republican nodes) since march fail to be mined, including one this morning. i don't know whether i can determine if they're just not being relayed to the network, or outright being ignored
mats: i checked my notes, i have had 4 separate tx (with -connect set exclusively to advertised republican nodes) since march fail to be mined, including one this morning. i don't know whether i can determine if they're just not being relayed to the network, or outright being ignored ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how pervasive this http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-sunshine/ slash http://trilema.com/2016/vacation/ idiocy is.
trinque: pretty cool lobbes. I don't know that I've heard anyone report yet that it didn't boot for them. I've still got more work to do to make the genesis.vpatch unform across runs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it ?
mircea_popescu: anyways, i don't expect you have to or should vpatch the ~data~. is thar what you meant by "vectors" ?
mircea_popescu: i don't follow the logic ? are they that big or aren't they that big ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 20:50 mircea_popescu: fact of the matter, for ~these reasons~ i don't even believe mit told original symbolics&co fucktards to be fucktards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am entirely not proposing any others ~have their mothers do~ anything specific, this or that. i am saying though, and plainly, that the sort of people whose mothers ~don't do what they tell them to~ это уже наполовину тетка.