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dorion_road: python is then not available to meaningful examination because it has been exam taking and pretending to be ready (e.g. usg.mit now uses it instead of scheme), rather than actually making itself ready for human use.
mp_en_viaje: they'd like to be ready, see. they just... aren't. and because people are perverse, this tends to manifest rather as exam taking than actual improvement. they don't become any ready-er, they just become adept at pretending they are.
dorion_road: trinque you've been highlighted on a couple different tmsr os threads: bvt is curious about what you have to say on the extent to which the bootstrapping/package management/development tools are a source of bloat in Cuntoo.
jfw: MP's affirmation of it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-27 14:50:04 dorion_road: jfw in your Gales Linux articles, please address bvt's question in his tmsr os article about the mb weight and contents of the bootstrapping/package management/developments tools.
dorion_road: bvt What is the status of the last vpatch for the RNG series?
dorion_road: jfw in your Gales Linux articles, please address bvt's question in his tmsr os article about the mb weight and contents of the bootstrapping/package management/developments tools.
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/11/yet-more-thoughts-about-tmsr-os-os-making-exam-taking/ << bvt's backtrace -- Yet more thoughts about TMSR OS: OS-Making Exam-Taking
asciilifeform: aka 'exam taking'
mircea_popescu: to put the matter into proper formalization : the old world, of mechanical contraptions that could be physically debugged, was relatively simple and moreover in certain senses and on some dimensions very strictly constrained. consequently it was possible to build exam-taking rulebooks that allowed a large population of morons to build up, and "work", passibly well, as church wardens, ship righters, what have you.
asciilifeform: superficially it seems possible to cut apart 'i'ma build fleet of merchant ships and sail to venice' from konsoomer-credit . but i suspect there's a nonremovable 'exam taking' component.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824464 << in perhaps better formulation, the very point of having arbiter is so as to avoid exam taking ; the whole point of having "written contract" (import here pizarro's coc, import here the "opposable instrument" thread with trinque, etc) is to permit exam taking. these are contrary design constraints. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, think : paying for tits resulted, before your very eyes, in ever increasing levels of exam taking. yes ? you noticed this, yourself, i said nothing, you complained about it.
mircea_popescu: the empire of exam taking.
a111: 12 results for "exam taking", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=exam%20taking
asciilifeform: !#s exam taking
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 02:39 mircea_popescu: understand how the empire of idiots' euphemism threadmill works : they noticed that you go by the heuristic of "published holes", and they've adapted to that (because that's what the idiots are all about, "Exam taking", ie optimizing for the measurement not for the variable measured). so, they keep publishing strainers and calanders, except the sort where YOU don't know the holes. it gives you the warm fuzzy feeling that "The
mircea_popescu: understand how the empire of idiots' euphemism threadmill works : they noticed that you go by the heuristic of "published holes", and they've adapted to that (because that's what the idiots are all about, "Exam taking", ie optimizing for the measurement not for the variable measured). so, they keep publishing strainers and calanders, except the sort where YOU don't know the holes. it gives you the warm fuzzy feeling that "The ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they just like it for the usual exam-taking reasons, it's possibly the least different from english thing out there.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-22#317465 << i'd add a third, which is "the insistence on the trivial case". there's a fundamental tension at work here, because we call it "exam taking", but bear it in mind that the presence of exam takers is not a flaw in the population, but a failure of the system!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian has it. it's mostly used to denote taking the bus w/o a ticket / going to exam with a cheating mind.
asciilifeform: trinque: naggum expounded on the difference between the 2 basic types of program (and program-writer) - the 'exam-taking', 'solved problem!11 i'm done!' and 'reusable, readable, for the ages'
asciilifeform: exam-taking (tm)
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 09:29:18; mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.
mircea_popescu: (and the disruption eulora brings to the table doesn't end here, incidentally. the above requirements as to change are why while i'm in generall all for open source, i will never share the fucking server code. it's not just that easy copying of the "exam rule book" so to speak makes the exam unworthy of taking, and therefore the game more boring. it's more importantly that i have to conserve for myself the space of mov
mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trying to install gentoo is like taking an exam for public servancy
decimation: in my undergrad it was assumed knowledge that the indians got together to "strategize" on exam-taking