deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/bettyond-the-forest/ << Trilema - Bettyond the Forest
hanbot: my grocer moved from listing things on receipt by their order on conveyor (which i diligently sort so i can do weekly accounting at a sane rate) to alphabetical. in other seemingly miniscule things that end up being completely maddening. 10 mins ---> 30 mins + neckache, fuxory.
mircea_popescu: is it at least ascii alphabetical, or do they do javaturd unicode alphabetical ?
hanbot: alphapaininthebuttical.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, "every shop must have a website (with ssl everywhere!!!)" and "every customer must have a loyalty card" trends of useless nonsense somehow haven't converged to the most basic sanity of, "give us your rsa pubkey, then download your data from our website whenever you want to, just go to shop.com/yourname"
mircea_popescu: how is it, that they'll go to all the trouble but only just as long as it's not doing anything useful ?
mircea_popescu: i rewatched gents prefer blondes, earlier. it's "holywood takes out all stops", but amusingly in their quest for "over the top decadence" and other delicious salamis, they have uberdressed girls tied to a spurious spinning chandelier RATHER THAN taking anyone's top off.
mircea_popescu: cuz that's how fucking decadence goes, you get to the "dozen girls hanging from the light fixture" WAY WAY WAAAAY before you get to topless.
hanbot: mpaa sez topless grocery expentitures are illegal!
mircea_popescu: anything BUT the useful. what "united states", call it grandstanding pointlessness and be done.
hanbot: and i'm not even in the us.
mircea_popescu: oh.
mircea_popescu: well that tears it then.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-25#1789645 << redirect what to what? or you mean add www. to domain?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-25 21:37 mircea_popescu: phf plox to redirect www
mircea_popescu: www.barks atm 404s
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-19#1788278 << i've discovered similar, my 3g phone barely has signal and doesn't last more than a day in san francisco. presumably because the number of 3g supporting towers is significantly lower here☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-19 15:38 asciilifeform discovered '2g shutdown'(tm)(r) the hard way -- fallback modem quit working.
mircea_popescu: https://steemit.com/introducemyself/@anonymint/introspection-interlude << in other bizarre. maybe someone point out to the dude that there's a 2 and a 5 in any 10, and since the 5 is in short supply n! will have one zero for each 5, two for each 25 and 3 for each 625, meaning 1000! will have 200 + 80 + 1.
mircea_popescu has seen these two, (a preoccupation with subjective mental acuity, "iq" and "energization" etc) and (complete inadherence to trivial problems, a la http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-21#930269 ) so often and repeatedly they really seem the same item.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-11-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but in the same vein of "hard problems, if you're new here", you know the two trains and fly one im sure
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if a preoccupation with the self becomes an escapist technique to deal with frustration borne of lack of experience.
mircea_popescu: re http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << spyked ave1 do you even want to be l1'd ?
mircea_popescu: aaand in other batshit, i am dissecting this system whose .mozilla directory is... 1.7GB. THREE CDS. what the fuck intricacy of prophylactic detail could possibly be stored there!
mircea_popescu considers converting it to avi and just watching the five hours' worth.
asciilifeform: 'cache' liquishit
mircea_popescu: what, it never deletes anything ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck could a browser do with gb's worth of "cache", system has a swap. what's the swap for, so that redditards reimplement the fs in js ?
asciilifeform: ff? of course not
asciilifeform: dun free() either
mircea_popescu: basically this is immutable computering.
asciilifeform: it's 'crash-only', i.e. perlistic, kompyooting
mircea_popescu: you know, i think i published A NUMBER OF bashens that never crash. or is bash not perl ?
asciilifeform: term of art.
mircea_popescu: should be a pretty decent uni application / tech employment interview question. "explain the difference between bash and perl."
asciilifeform: recall the gc discussion . 'scripting lang is one where progy dun live long enuff to need gc'
mircea_popescu: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/ubuntu-unity-is-dead-desktop-will-switch-back-to-gnome-next-year/ << apparently even the dumbest of the dumb have known (for a year!) that "tablets" are ~dead and phones are going back to nintendo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unsurprising, considering the ~complete disappearance of pnoje iron where luser could load own soft
asciilifeform: and 'dead' is not quite how i'd describe a thing that's mostly replaced the actual comp for all of luserdom
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: luserdom had no business touching computer at any sense. it's as dead today as it was in 1818.
mircea_popescu: then they also had "computers".
asciilifeform: in that sense sure.
mircea_popescu: anyway, whole point of the idiocy was "JUST LIEK STARTREK!!!" cachet.
mircea_popescu: that whole 2000s pantsuit "hopes and dreams" pie in the sky / end of history scenario took the bath of all time, and it ain't ever coming back.
mircea_popescu: there was a time, a decade or two, when pantsuit actually thought the kingdom of their father's upon us. remember that ?
mircea_popescu: ("ever" is, obviously, an overstatement -- idiocy aint' about to go away. but in our lifetimes, that utopia's not showing up again.)
asciilifeform: somehow i never actually met the 'troo believers', only the cynical распил profiting folx
mircea_popescu: but you also aren't sexually promiscuous with teenagers and young adults.
asciilifeform: i haven't even been to west usa, even.
asciilifeform: ( hey phf , how is kanzureistan this time of year ? )
mircea_popescu: pantsuit is actually more like boston than cali. imo it's an interesting case of parasitosis.
mircea_popescu: but you'd have met a lot more tru believers going 500 miles north than 5k miles west.
asciilifeform: somehow i thought they moved it west, like su moved capital to moscow from peterburg
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it's a complex matter. but my read on the whole shebang was "hey, californian dumb beach babes, this is what's good and proper, isn't it what you believe ?" "duh".
mircea_popescu: whole ideology was altogether vehehery boston methodist.
asciilifeform: right, but they did make a switch from 'salvation through prayer' to 'salvation through wunderwaffen'. and these are, nominally, made in svistan
mircea_popescu: by mit.
mircea_popescu: they are made in sf-istan by the "we are the premiere" idiots.
asciilifeform: afaik mit is already hollowed out by termites; observe that google/palantir/rest of the squid are not based in 'media lab' but in the west.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how familiar you are at all with cultural trends in that uneasy federal empire of entirely uncommunicating groups, but does eg greenspun sound cali to you AT ALL ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean butt-based or head-based ?
mircea_popescu: i've yet to meet any of the us aspie class who aren't firmly head-based on state st.
asciilifeform: all i know is where their 'mecca', for king and slave alike, seems to be -- not in the frozen old puritanistan , but in sf
mircea_popescu: again, mecca to live or mecca to dream ?
asciilifeform: but admittedly i only have naked eye observation. i have not the first notion re what they dream.
mircea_popescu: you recall our discussion re the mechanical dragonfly, and how you proposed the eye may simply have a low pass filter find the flies ?
asciilifeform: high pass. but yes
asciilifeform: ( fft + highpass )
mircea_popescu: the principle is not without merit. if you convert sufficient gb of firefox cache into avi and watch them, eventually you end up with something that convincingly argues to you it's a clue.
mircea_popescu: but i have no faith in the process.
asciilifeform: i actually did this for shitware-analysis
asciilifeform: not movie frames , of course , but still picture made from binariolade
mircea_popescu: did it pan out ?
asciilifeform: it did! pretty good means of first look, 'meat-assisted' sorting
mircea_popescu: (obviously i was using a metaphore, i don't actually do the watching as such.)
asciilifeform: ever listen to those z80 micro tapes in '80s
asciilifeform: same principle
mircea_popescu: yet consider something like http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319650 : who would you say came up with "startrek folk wear pantsuits LIKE THIS" ? it's 100% a boston notion of the world and people in it.☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-26 01:44 hanbot: mpaa sez topless grocery expentitures are illegal!
asciilifeform: hey don't we have a boston rezident ? mats ?
mircea_popescu: somehow, notwithstanding how san fernando valley dominated hollywood for half of the 80s and most of the 90s, the mpaa still reflects "the movie industry" views of state st, rather than either hollywood or porn valley.
mircea_popescu: heck, they're even dekulakizing producers these days!
asciilifeform: the entertaining part will be act-2 of that play
mircea_popescu: imagine the absurdity, a producer losing his job for fucking women unasked!
asciilifeform: i.e. when they start installing the ideologically-correct replacement producers
mircea_popescu: banker losing job for not having girlfriend, when ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, they're already there. have been, for decade+. you should see the shitheads doing the "mega franchises", jesus fuck i wouldn't have the misery in my house.
mircea_popescu: it starts with "i don't drink alcohol." once you hear that, you know what you're dealing with pretty much.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there a detectable ideological line in the producer purges ? what did e.g. weinstein make , and what is his 'replacement' making ?
mircea_popescu: just look at the top gross, it's a fine indicator. #1 is kevin feige. iron man and urolagnia of the sort.
asciilifeform: ... or is it moar of a general-purpose 'workout', a la stalin's generals, i.e. 'yes guess what, generals are removable'
mircea_popescu: #2 is kathleen kennedy. soccer mom of the star wars.
mircea_popescu: #3 is do i need to go on ? bruckheimer, the fucktard behind pirates of the whatever. at least he's an alcoholic.
mircea_popescu: and on it goes, that's about 10bn there.
mircea_popescu: (and they're complete pushovers, too -- take neal moritz adopting the vin diesel look for chrissakes. these are people ?!)
mircea_popescu: then there's that heyman faggot with the harry potter crapolade... there's seriously not a fucking human being among them.
mircea_popescu: the x-men chick... jesus.
mircea_popescu: ima go throw up.
mircea_popescu: anyway. boston managed to make "the defining question" be "what does america want to see ?" and then managed to convince the midwest that what california people think is hip is bostonolade ; then took those numbers and showed california that "what america wants to see!!" is bostonolade.
mircea_popescu: which is how come a) "oh, we have the dumb flickering plastic from star trek!!!" is somehow supposed to be a pillar of faith supporting the pantsuit money printing press ; while b) nobody fucking notices that the ~only item of any value whatsoever in the whole franchise was marina sirtis' ass, and they still don't get to see that, much like there's no jane russell porn.
mircea_popescu: worse waste of human potential can scarcely be devised, ffs.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if there ever is to be any progress, boston is to be cleaved from its support structures.
mircea_popescu: (meanwhile, because the republic's better than the empire : http://videocelebs.net/marina-sirtis-nude-glynis-barber-nude-faye-dunaway-nude-lisa-mulidore-nude-the-wicked-lady-1983.html )
mircea_popescu: much like in the case of say showgirls, the pantsuit "public oppinion" panned the wicked lady, speaking of course with the usual pretense of ex-cathedra "everyone agrees" and http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-159.15-161.0 nonsense. nevertheless it's an infinitely better movie than all the retarded crap they gush over. i'd take it every time over crap like "mandy" (aka "clash of silence", the 1952 waste
mircea_popescu: of reel they gave the palme d'or to) and so on.
asciilifeform: re 'bostonism of star trek', i recall reading that it is ~officially~ a plot point, that the starship had no toilet. erryone shits in pants, and it is teleported out. this is automatically what i think of when hear 'star trek'
asciilifeform: and there is something very harvardian about it.
mircea_popescu: lmao why wait for the shitting, why not selectively teleport out of colon ?
asciilifeform: i dun recall if it was told, which.
mircea_popescu: might even have anus removed, make some really great futurecitizens
asciilifeform: but the basic idea.
mircea_popescu: "you can't even shit without us"
asciilifeform: right, that's exactly it.
asciilifeform: and they would, betcha, if they could.
mircea_popescu: i expect it's where it's headed. already produced vast herds of dependent idiots who 100% couldn't feed self without the empire.
asciilifeform: how else can there ever even be any empire. ( yer skin cells can't feed themselves outside of the skin either )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but the most pantsuit part of this story is what they left out. WHERE is it teleported TO ? does the ship leave droppings, like mice ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-2-14#303288 << pantsuit progress, today as in stardate whatever.☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:18 mircea_popescu: MEANWHILE, however, they have 100% unaccounted for the time externality. so basically it's a contest consisting of a guy without legs going about finding fault with people's fingers. because he's decided "legs don't count", and so as he has much better hands than the rest of those losers he should be captain of the football team.
asciilifeform: would have to ask an aficionado. but iirc the notion was, they sort the atoms by element and stack up for... kitchen
mircea_popescu: if so, why even bother with travel at all.
asciilifeform: iirc orig one was 'to find fuckable green humanoids' or the like
asciilifeform: very 1960s-flavoured
mircea_popescu: could just stack kitchen appliances into fuckable shape...
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789695 << Speaking of, Peru sounds very promising for Gringos who like their girls short☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 15:30 mircea_popescu: but you also aren't sexually promiscuous with teenagers and young adults.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform but the most pantsuit part of this story is what they left out. WHERE is it teleported TO ? does the ship leave droppings, like mice ? << To the kitchen naturally, recycling
mircea_popescu: in other lulz from the nursery, "stereotypes are bad" "isn't that a stereotype ?"
BingoBoingo: lol
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/pantsuit-disarmament-march-eclipsed-in-popular-headlines-by-opposition-from-musicians-killa-mike-and-bataclan-survivor-jesse-hughes-call-for-sanity/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Disarmament March Eclipsed In Popular Headlines By Opposition From Musicians: Killa Mike And Bataclan Survivor Jesse Hughes Call For Sanity
mircea_popescu: lol!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yound ?
BingoBoingo: fxd
mircea_popescu: so much win. nice to have the herald around again!\
BingoBoingo: tyvm
BingoBoingo: A couple other typos spotted an killed
BingoBoingo: And so that it is entered into the record, Killer Mike is a rapper beloved by black people and nearly unknown by the category of people who consider themselves "cucked white allies"
mircea_popescu: point in case, i never heard o' him.
mircea_popescu: then again the only black rapper i could name is the real slim shady.
trinque: BingoBoingo: *chopping off
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
trinque: good stuff. guess I'll have to listen to some eagles of death metal now.
mircea_popescu: is that a rapper ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's the rock band of the guys who survived the moslem concert massacre in paris
mircea_popescu: a
BingoBoingo: Anyways, trends seems to be pantsuits losing pop culture
mircea_popescu: "discovering they never owned"
BingoBoingo: In other pantsuit failures "I wanted to tear my hair out. HOW CAN YOUR RACE NOT BE THE BIGGEST PART OF WHO YOU ARE, I wanted to scream. DO YOU NOT KNOW YOUR HISTORY? WHY WILL YOU NOT LET ME TEACH YOU?" >> "Would it have been different if I was black rather than brown?"
BingoBoingo: From https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/conversations-diversity/how-far-should-i-go-get-you-%E2%80%98woke%E2%80%99
mircea_popescu: it won't load ; and archive fails with "assertion failed"
BingoBoingo: did that for me too, short of it is loser kid bothered that high achieving black kid wanted nothing to do with his movement
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: all that carefully crafted tower of narcisism and self-absorbtion (they prefer to call it "intellectual property")! how cruel and unfair that the world doesn't give a damn!
mircea_popescu: RAGEEE
BingoBoingo: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1ICyR/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: ^ Ah, bonus I didn't notice until pasting the text. Author's name is PATEL!!! A wild PREEET
BingoBoingo: "I credit that group with creating my identity consciousness. Before that, I was a brown kid that wanted to be white. Eusa Nia (Swahili for Black Purpose) got me."
mircea_popescu: so now he's a scumbag who's trying to eat out of getting people to be colors ?
mircea_popescu: progress.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck are all the wiggers so enamoured with swahili anyway ? there's actual languages in africa.
mircea_popescu: swahili isn't one of them.
BingoBoingo: Like Dutch!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> swahili isn't one of them. << Swahili's the one Soviet allies in US academia were directed to, likely because not a language
mircea_popescu: whole lotta "france got me! i'm a phrancophone! i only eat at French's diner in wisconsin."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo kinda arabic-lite, for the 80iq-ish folk.
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing : if they're so fucking enamoured with it, why the fuck are they torturing it with latin notation ?!
BingoBoingo: Ah, a sort of Dominican-Spanish
mircea_popescu: more like the east azn english pigdins
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: That's kinda what I understand Dominican Spanish to be. I kind of have an overview of Immigration to Uruguay post half baked in my head. Need to sit down and shove it through the keyboard.
BingoBoingo: Not a process post, but a who is coming in post.
asciilifeform: how come nobody signs up to learn, say, igbo, native tongue of the illustrious prince419mbwembwembwe...
asciilifeform was actually assigned it in last yr of linguistics at uni. remembers today : 0
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they just like it for the usual exam-taking reasons, it's possibly the least different from english thing out there.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, lcd languages forced by the needs of commerce end up ~same.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> amusingly, lcd languages forced by the needs of commerce end up ~same. << This heruistic collapses neatly to the English language used locally, strictly the subset needed by Brasileros and Uruguayos to do commerce.
asciilifeform: eng. linguists used to call 'lcd language' , a 'pidgin' ( not to be confused with the homophonic bird ) , but iirc this term is now pantsuit-verboten
asciilifeform: phunphakt, even decade++ ago, asciilifeform nearly came to blows with pantsuit-professor over elementary fact that some languages considerably less expressive, esp in re civilized approach to philosophy, than others
asciilifeform: the new Official truth was already being enacted.
BingoBoingo: Hey, I was shocked when I found out the Yumbo Cargo is a factory model and not a local hack http://archive.is/nJ1ML
BingoBoingo: Upon arrival "Look at that chop job, a motorcycle with a truck bed"
BingoBoingo: After more time and more seen in the wild, Ah, the chicoms SELL these things here already configured thusly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what, all languages can bear shakespeare ? jamaican y compris ?
asciilifeform: according to these monkeys
asciilifeform: dun ask me how.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/there-has-not-yet-been-seen-a-simple-thing-even-if-were-drowning-in-simple-people/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the chinese are the ultimate body shop ppls.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously. Their dominance of the vehicle market here is astounding. Yumbo, Baccio, Geely. And so damn many polleritas (underbone motorcycles)
lobbes: mircea_popescu: 'logs.minigame.bz' no longer seems to resolve to '' (at least on my end)
lobbes: actually, for that matter 'http://minigame.bz/' no longer resolves for me either O.o
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: myeah, server's gone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when was your flight over to paraguay ?
asciilifeform: shopping for it atm actually
asciilifeform: and uru-
asciilifeform: rather than para-
mircea_popescu: a yea
asciilifeform: ( anybody been to para- ? what's it like ? )
mircea_popescu: bout same
mircea_popescu: lobbes ima put it in the mar report ; but the short story is, server i supposedly bought in feb still not here by late march, minigame dun have a server now.
mircea_popescu: data is backup-ed. as to when back online... well... talk to these people.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( anybody been to para- ? what's it like ? ) << From what I hear much hotter and poorer. It is the lawless land where Uruguayos go for cheap vacations.
asciilifeform: hotter from lack of sea ?
BingoBoingo: Yeah
BingoBoingo: They have a fairly important river, but more like the Mississippi and less of a wide "is this a river or sea" thing like the Rio de la Plata
BingoBoingo: And when the US was having its civil war Brasil, Argentina, and Uruguay went into Paraguay and fucked their shit up as a bonding experience.
BingoBoingo: From about 1800 through 1880 there's some interesting history in this region. And then the Italians came.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let me know when you've bought ; gotta stamp diana_coman 's vacation form.
diana_coman: lol!
mircea_popescu: all right an' proper like a real corp over here.
diana_coman: you stamp it, I stomp it ; will find someone to chew it too
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789697 << not as hot as palm springs (which is full blown summer at this point), but basically spring. it was raining last week, but right now it's a shirt weather. if you're close to the ocean, then it's blowing cold wind. what i'm trying to say is that the weather is excellent, and i'm loathing going back to the swamps.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 15:30 asciilifeform: ( hey phf , how is kanzureistan this time of year ? )
phf: i took a long walk over sf hills, and wanted to take an ocean dip at the end, but the last 15km on the way to the ocean were on flats, with a piercing cold wind. i was cold wearing a shirt and a sweater, so no swimming, but still it was a pleasant walk. there's really nothing bad to say about the weather here.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And we are solidly in autumn temperatures. Short sleeves are fine during the day, jacket may be desirable at night. The wind is starting to get a little bit of bite.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/europol-arrests-unnamed-man-for-politely-persuading-eurobanks-to-part-with-cash/ << Qntra - Europol Arrests Unnamed Man For Politely Persuading Eurobanks To Part With Cash