Adlai: that site overloads my undesirable crackpot filters with false positives before ocr has even returned a single line
Adlai: all three of those say "geeks signaling non-geeks to stay away", rather than "timecube dissertation"
☟︎ trinque: I agree thebitcoin.foundation needs more timecube.
Adlai: at the end of the day, nothing that (a little|complete removal of) css can't fix
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trinque: so here's another badly formed question; what kind of experience empties the HN poster's mind of its bad model?
☟︎ trinque: a chi power "fighter" getting beaten to a pulp by an MMA fighter, that sort of situation comes to mind
ben_vulpes: "...ben_vulpes finally kicked off a kernel compile.
trinque: dunno about "incredible" there
trinque: maybe incredible that he thought his spirit-energy dancing was a thing
trinque: so maybe hierarchial leadership is the most humane arrangement, as well as the most sensible
trinque: someone to bop you on the head that maybe still wants you around, vs letting reality do it, which doesn't care if you survive the lesson
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: from bcp: "--unix-lines \n Make sure that all copied files use Unix style line endings." << hyuu
mats: i just beat Stockfish 6 (chess engine) and im in shock
mircea_popescu: Adlai there's no such thing as "the reality of a society"
mircea_popescu: yes, he's in touch with the *fashions* of his society.
BingoBoingo: mats: How much power and time did you allow it?
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 00:01:14; Adlai: all three of those say "geeks signaling non-geeks to stay away", rather than "timecube dissertation"
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 00:06:12; trinque: so here's another badly formed question; what kind of experience empties the HN poster's mind of its bad model?
mircea_popescu: if you actually love him you can try slavery, but this works exclusively on the thin set of people who understand deeply they suck
mircea_popescu: but speaking of this, i recall the lulzfest of the "consensus" in the 50s to 90s about how you know, striking is the way to go.
mircea_popescu: then chokes showed up and for a good decade people were all "no dude, there is a shaolin monk somewhere that can hit your spirit!!11"
trinque: the best part of that vid is watching the students dance around as if hit
mats: BingoBoingo: ~12000 kn/s, 30s time control
mats: pretty sure i had cosmic aid. this is my first win in over a hundred attempts
BingoBoingo: I'd really like to see stockfish running on its maximally supported hardware
BingoBoingo: 128 cores, 1 TB of ram for the transposition table...
mats: my sibling recommended i seek counseling because of my "obsession with beating chess computers and the end of the world"
decimation: mircea_popescu: re: libnss < I think it has its roots in solaris
decimation: it kinda makes sense in its own retarded way - say you want to use sun's 'nis' rather than dns for name resolution
decimation: "o place is. No place that survives is majoritarian. That's what is striking, is, all countries that survive have what are in effect ways of controlling this problem. And so the insight that comes from this is, you can explain what look like odd institutions because--no one may have understood it. This is a very Hayekian point--no one may have understood that they are getting stability from this. They are getting a determinate choice.
decimation: Now, it may be arbitrary. But they are getting what looks like a determinate choice because the alternative is chaos."
mircea_popescu: i dunno who sane still plays chess. might as well "play" hanoi towers, it's closer to compulsion than anything.
mats: well. #b-a gets to share credit for the latter.
mats: (the end of the world)
Adlai: iirc it was norvig who called sudoku "a ddos attack on the human intellect", although it may be more like a pack of hyenas preying on the stragglers
Adlai: whereas chess... now that is a ddos attack on all levels of human intellect
mircea_popescu: which one is sudoku ? theone that is taking over the idiots that used to do crossword puzzles ?
Adlai: it's latin squares translated to toki pona
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BingoBoingo: Eh, chess is an entertainment like any other now that the machines won
BingoBoingo: It's freeing. Allows for experimenting with more interesting styles of play.
decimation: it is apparently possible to create a static glibc
decimation: I'm not sure if it completely solves the nss issue though
nubbins`: so i used BCP to strip out all of the boost shit that's not needed for bitcoind
nubbins`: this is cross-compiling for pogo
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nubbins`: .so would be the shared lib, .a is static -- looks like libcrypto.a is complaining
nubbins`: /home/nubs/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/lib/libcrypto.a(dso_dlfcn.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlerror'
nubbins`: anyway this is farther than before. actually cleared out an enormous amount of boost libs
nubbins`: if you get bcp compiled, you can just do the following to spit out a custom subset of boost, tailored for your project:
nubbins`: ./bcp --scan --boost=~/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/boost_1_52_0 ~/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/bitcoin/src/*.cpp ~/dev/myboost/
nubbins`: no sense compiling e.g. a ton of boost python libs
nubbins`: bcp is included in the boost download, cd $BOOST_ROOT; ./bootstrap.sh; ./bjam tools/bcp
nubbins`: undefined reference to symbol 'dlerror' <<< dlerror returns last DYNAMIC LINKING ERROR
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ascii_modem: be aware that, like the rest of opensourcedom, it is in a fairly advanced state of ... declapse (tm)
nubbins`: incrementally closer to portatronic pogotron. it's now complaining about libcrypto referencing a libdl component
nubbins`: which leads me to believe the openssl compile might need to be looked at.
nubbins`: and it's BANANAS TOWN that it's popping up here
nubbins`: dynamically link all the things?
ascii_modem: it exists. beloved classic compiler used by almost all msdos games outfits in '90s
nubbins`: /home/nubs/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/lib/libcrypto.a(dso_dlfcn.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlerror'
ascii_modem: and before mircea_popescu asks - no i dont have rigorous proof of equivalence of watcom to gcc
ascii_modem: Or! of his gcc to mine to yours to ... rms's !
ascii_modem: eventually we -will- find that the whole tower was mortarred together with old snot.
nubbins`: "He did post it. Not only was he banned from this forum that day (he unbanned himself with an exploit), but ALL of the videos on his youtube were reported and removed for copyright infringement, including the ones showing detail work because there was music playing on the radio in the background. In short he already went out of his way to prove his innocence to a bunch of stalker idiots here just to have his accounts shut down and was tired
nubbins`: of playing games. Use your own eyeballs/brain instead of listening to the mob of neckbeards who harassed/negged him. "
nubbins`: he unbanned himself with an exploit :0
nubbins`: i think there's something in the forum's water supply
nubbins`: this is the $10mn/year master carver he's talking about, that's using 0day exploits to unban himself from the forum
nubbins`: so that he may deliver his piece de resistance: a 500btc scavenger hunt that can only be solved by purchasing all of his old laser-engraved coins from the various sock accounts that "bought" them
nubbins`: it's like the usms thing but on the forum
☟︎ ascii_modem: as someone who only ever knew about it from #b-a links - i thought it was a kinda nature preserve just for folks like woodman
☟︎ nubbins`: he says he buried it in a capsule somewhere
nubbins`: oh, wait, it was a thousand "bronze bitcoins" or smth with 5btc on each
nubbins`: "Not only was he banned from this forum that day (he unbanned himself with an exploit)"
ascii_modem: did anyone ever actually buy from this nitwit ?
decimation: ascii_modem: I thought we went over the libdl/openssl thing
nubbins`: from what i can figure, he buys accounts
nubbins`: and uses the bought accounts to "buy" his coins
☟︎☟︎ nubbins`: with the exception of one or two rubes
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 04:37:31; decimation: mod6: try modding the openssl 'configure' stuff to use 'no-dso'
nubbins`: it's in 0.5.3.1 auto.sh, not portatronic
nubbins`: lel the roomie and his friend are watching "death of a fuckin salesman"
nubbins`: the shouting is starting to get really good now
decimation: ascii_modem: did you see the earlier note about glibc compiled statically
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decimation: the libnss symbols are present therein
ascii_modem: if i can't replicate it with my existing toolchain - it doesnt exist
decimation: well, the redhat glibc static build is pretty much just building glibc with -static
nubbins`: ok, so the libdl/DSO thing is gone
decimation: ok from uclibc docs/Glibc_vs_uClibc_Differences.txt
decimation: 6) uClibc does not support NSS (/lib/libnss_*), which allows glibc to easily support various methods of authentication and DNS resolution. uClibc only supports flat password files and shadow password files for storing authentication information. If you need something more complex than this, you can compile and install pam.
decimation: so this is not an issue for pogo anyway
ascii_modem: this invites the question of why should we ever use conventional libc again.
☟︎ decimation: all the more reason to use embedded buildroot/minimal distro
decimation: the amount of bloat in glibc is quite shocking
nubbins`: meanwhile windows wants to turn itself into a bunch of sheets of coloured construction paper laid out on a blue tarp
decimation: ^ what he means, specifically, is that you can enslave your rhel machine to a winblows 'kerberos/ldap' server
Adlai never understood why nobody wrote a tree-shaking compiler
decimation: ascii_modem: suddenly talk about lisp machines seems cool
ascii_modem: one reason is that it is damnably hard for c/cpp
Adlai: sure, but it's not like this is the first time people have wanted to use minimal functionality from existing libraries
decimation: ^ I tried to use it once, immediately puked when it encountered system libraries
decimation: don't laugh ascii, it's apparently industry standard
decimation: it's in the logs somewhere. point is, there's a whole cottage industry around trying to 'support' C for missions that matter
decimation: Barr's ultimate conclusions were that: Toyota’s electronic throttle control system (ETCS) source code is of unreasonable quality. Toyota’s source code is defective and contains bugs, including bugs that can cause unintended acceleration (UA). Code-quality metrics predict presence of additional bugs. Toyota’s fail safes are defective and inadequate (referring to them as a “house of cards” safety architecture).
decimation: Misbehaviors of Toyota’s ETCS are a cause of UA. "
decimation: "Although the investigation focused almost entirely on software, there is at least one HW factor: Toyota claimed the 2005 Camry's main CPU had error detecting and correcting (EDAC) RAM. It didn't. EDAC, or at least parity RAM, is relatively easy and low-cost insurance for safety-critical systems."
decimation: one wonders how much of our lives depend directly on such hard and soft turdware
decimation: rms was right about this kind of stuff
decimation: if 'we' let vendors hide their software, they will produce turds
ascii_modem: it will happen until hammurabic punishment is reintroduced.
Adlai: something like compcert doesn't help when the libraries have mounds of garbage code, even if it "works," you just get mounds of garbage object code
decimation: Adlai: yeah I don't think it will even let you link with any modern open source standard libraries
ascii_modem: fits-in-head is the only answer. though it goes well with a balanced diet of public impalements for wreckerz
ascii_modem: fitted non-ecc ram in a car? enjoy being used as living crash dummy in next test
ascii_modem: some berkshire 'wriggleys' is laughing all the way to the bank
ascii_modem: it is -not!- because the non-ecc chip is cheaper
ascii_modem: but because the unreflective imbecile who signed off on it is.
ascii_modem: cheaper than that endangered animal, the actual engineer...
decimation: somewhere there was a sweatshop where some asian person was committing code to this device
decimation: and that person either *knew* what he was doing or was pathologically ignorant
ascii_modem: quite possibly did not even know, for toyota or toy car
ascii_modem: but someone -decided- to use the idiot coolie
decimation: true. it's also possible that the code was acquired from elsewhere, written for some other purpose, and was 'merit-washed' into the ecm module
decimation: not uncommon at all - for instance, openssl
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assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 03:56:30; ascii_modem: ben_vulpes: congrats re: gentoo
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:12:26; nubbins`: it's like the usms thing but on the forum
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:12:42; ascii_modem: as someone who only ever knew about it from #b-a links - i thought it was a kinda nature preserve just for folks like woodman
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:17:34; nubbins`: and uses the bought accounts to "buy" his coins
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:25:47; decimation: well, redhat provides a static libc
mircea_popescu: ie, my way out of swallowing random binary strange is to get a solid block of binary strange ? from... red hat ?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27088 @ 0.00027215 = 7.372 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:36:00; ascii_modem: this invites the question of why should we ever use conventional libc again.
ben_vulpes: i have a gentoo that comes up as expected - but sans eth0, and damned if i can figure out why.
ben_vulpes: (*damned* frustrating, that networking thing)
ben_vulpes: (live cd connects through virtualization layer just happily
ben_vulpes: but compiled kernel and gentoo - simply refuses. indubitably attributable to operator error.)
trinque: ben_vulpes: gentoo has this dumb scheme where you have to symlink /etc/init.d/net.lo to say /etc/init.d/net.eth0
trinque: then there's of course having the right kernel module going
mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world to exist where i may have to spend more than an hour getting a new os running.
☟︎☟︎ mats: and here i thought mp was going to show a moment of vulnerability
trinque: someone could solve this; gentoo has this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is the only thing preventing it from having a proper installer
☟︎☟︎ trinque: can't have that because it wouldn't be gentoo!
mircea_popescu: sure, someone could. the moment someone does you get ubuntu - two years of unusable, six months of barely usable and then insta-poettering.
☟︎ trinque: hm, how do you resolve it?
trinque: either it's easy to install and becomes the shit-smeared playground, or it's pulling teeth and marginally less shit-smeared, it seems
mircea_popescu: how. spiked club in one hand, plank-with-nail in another hand.
mircea_popescu: stepping on transvestite cocks and hispster beards, in a swamp of hurt feelings.
trinque: haha, the plank with nail is unstoppable
trinque: sounds like a hell of a fun time
mircea_popescu: sadly intelligent people are coditioned to fear hurting idiots, instead of enjoying it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's the most objectionable thing ever, all this list of gotchas.
mircea_popescu: trying to install gentoo is like taking an exam for public servancy
mircea_popescu: "you mean to tell me you wrote down form f.45.b instead of 4.5.fb ?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: if i wanted to live like that i'd have stayed in academia."
trinque: oh god the mundane knowledge you must have to operate it
trinque: I don't feel smarter doing this
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gribble: Current Blocks: 350791 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 2008 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 10 hours, 42 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 78486415641.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 58.73032
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 20:59:21; asciilifeform: mats: i can trivially make mincemeat of this by issuing raw dma cycles.
mats: quoth the spender: "the problem i set out to solve with UDEREF was that many kernel bugs can be exploited (at all or more reliably) due to the fact that on i386 most OSs don't separate the userland virtual address space from that of the kernel. this in turn means that whenever userland can make the kernel (unexpectedly) dereference a userland controlled
mats: pointer, userland can control the data (and sometimes, control) flow of the kernel by virtue of providing the attack data in its own userland address range as it's fully visible in the kernel's virtual address space as well"
mircea_popescu: im starting to realise the "bitcoin atm" thing is actually just a sort of "freedom toaster" v2.0
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mircea_popescu: i originally imagined it's a misguided attempt to make money,
mircea_popescu: rather than a ludicrous attempt to be hipsterashionable.
BingoBoingo: Will it's an attempt to make some money for the people selling the boxes, but mostly it's a piece of conference swag some naive souls tried to introduce into the real world.
BingoBoingo: Setup a freedom toaster at a conference, some idiots are going to put one up in a space they have access to thinking it will attact passerby outside the conference distortion swirl, same with BTC ATMs
BingoBoingo: There's probably some subset of compulsive behavior spectrum that desperately wants whatever they are doing to actual be museum'ing
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nubbins`: oh jeez so many eaten messages
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:17:34; nubbins`: and uses the bought accounts to "buy" his coins
nubbins`: <+trinque> ben_vulpes: gentoo has this dumb scheme where you have to symlink /etc/init.d/net.lo to say /etc/init.d/net.eth0 <<< +1
nubbins`: ben_vulpes my eth0 is named enp0s3 in gentoo by default
nubbins`: try ifconfig to see if yours is same
assbot: Bitcoin Foundation's Corporate Counsel (Greg Egan) just resigned.
nubbins`: now it's happening when i try to (re-)compile bdb rather than when i try to compile bitcoind
nubbins`: <+cazalla> danielpbarron, ha check it out, that freebsdgirl ya had it out with on twitter got swatted <<< this imo is explicit admission by her enemies that they have no external genitalia
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ascii_modem: mircea_popescu: gentoo is not so much a 'usable linux' as a -machine for building a usable linux-. sorta like 'buildroot'. would you also say that, e.g., a lathe - is 'unusable' ?
ascii_modem: me, i find all those -other- distros, the ones that insist on littering my disk with all those bins i didn't ask for and that werent built in my home - unusable
mircea_popescu: so i find prisses unusable and you find crosseyed women unusable. so ?
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> a lathe is the essence of unusable. <<< o.O i bet you have soft hands
nubbins`: if you want to complete the picture, tell me your handshake is limp and clammy
ascii_modem: i find it odd that mircea_popescu does not handle linux in same way as lathe or - hell - dental work
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:52:05; mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world to exist where i may have to spend more than an hour getting a new os running.
mircea_popescu: i didn't say it should take YOU an hour. i said it should take me an hour.
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:54:27; trinque: someone could solve this; gentoo has this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is the only thing preventing it from having a proper installer
mircea_popescu: and i'm not counting whatever it takes to compile. just, it is not sane to expect me to go through laundry lists for minute after minute after minute.
ascii_modem: that part takes me 1h at most. it is deliberately manual, like the sub reactors, or therealbitcoin
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:55:23; mircea_popescu: sure, someone could. the moment someone does you get ubuntu - two years of unusable, six months of barely usable and then insta-poettering.
mircea_popescu: what was bitcoind using that ended up pulling libnss via glibc ? gethostbyaddr() was it ?
nubbins`: w/e the libnss thing is. details escape me now.
☟︎ nubbins` is buried under mountain of monkeys and footballs
nubbins`: oh right, yeah, the dns-snip patch killed that
ascii_modem: though i'm pretty sure it left a dns turd in somewhere - so a bit odd, this
nubbins`: hmmmmmmm, cross-toolchain just spit out a static binary.
nubbins`: ldd says so, but proof is in pudding
ascii_modem: i still want to know why gentoo has the only honest (re: stdint) gcc !
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:43:38; mircea_popescu: ie, my way out of swallowing random binary strange is to get a solid block of binary strange ? from... red hat ?
ascii_modem: decimation: the source rpm still needs rathead to build
nubbins`: /home/ftp # tftp 192.168.2.23 just spits out usage instructions
decimation: well, it does need rpmbuild at least, it would probably be difficult to work without redhat
decimation: Although if I recall a version of rpmbuild was available on gentoo
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 14:21:21; nubbins`: w/e the libnss thing is. details escape me now.
nubbins`: ascii_modem actually it was the client side that baffled me, heh.
decimation: although the question of what it does with gethostbyaddr() is a good one
nubbins`: no storage attached at all, so i can't tell if it, y'know, does anything
nubbins`: but i think this is sufficient proof, yes?
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nubbins`: so that's static bitcoind, running on pogotron, built with portatronic toolchain.
mats: well ofc provably preventing the exploit is preferable. PaX like a custom Gentoo build, relying on the attacker not knowing it's there, and/or failing to react accordingly
decimation: apparently uclibc has a dns client that opens /etc/resolv.conf itself, built into the code
mircea_popescu: yeah apparently uclibc is made specifically because of this/similar issues
nubbins`: please note the Boost section -- i'm using a custom subset of the full boost libs
nubbins`: you'll need to use bcp (see logs) to trim out the fat and gristle
nubbins`: otherwise your boost build will fail
nubbins`: i'm gonna try this all from scratch once more just to verify
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nubbins`: ok fwiw that auto.sh does have problems, i'll try to polish it later
nubbins`: also the bcp stuff could totally be included in same, not sure if this is something people want
nubbins`: or if they'd rather do it manually as needed
nubbins`: but i don't think it's a *terrible* idea for our install script to only compile the parts of boost that we need
nubbins`: imagine, i thought i left this life behind.
mircea_popescu: pls to make a proper patch in full glory so people can benefit from fruits of your genius.
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trinque: ascii_modem |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089297 << lol installer?!! as in copying other folks' bins over? ick << nah, just bash script that plonks you into a partition editor, then a list of architectures, then has you pick a stage, etc; script the scriptable parts of the manual, and leave everything that should be.. manual :D
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:54:27; trinque: someone could solve this; gentoo has this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is the only thing preventing it from having a proper installer
trinque: I don't want decisions made for me; I want bricks laid for me.
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nubbins`: has anyone besides me and alf attempted the portatronic buildroot?
nubbins`: would be nice to get some people to test this patch when it's ready
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ben_vulpes: but hory shit have i learned things about the linux shitpile
Apocalyptic: ^ only for that fact alone it's a good experience
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ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i have an enp0s3 as well, don't really know what to do to turn it into/use it as eth0 tho
ben_vulpes: i'll probably eventually figure it out
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gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
gribble: Current Blocks: 350874 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 1925 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 22 hours, 4 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 54249359325.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.71349
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: are you using udev or eudev?
ben_vulpes: awww shit yee i have sshd into the gentoo box!
nubbins`: if you want to be able to build bitcoind with your buildroot toolchain, you'll have to add a few options to the config
nubbins`: i did this by running make nconfig after make pogoplug_defconfig and adding them manually
ben_vulpes: hafta upgrade from os x 10.9 to 10.10 to cut ios builds
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:52:05; mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world to exist where i may have to spend more than an hour getting a new os running.
danielpbarron: if you're used to debian, OpenBSD isn't such a jarring experience
danielpbarron: not that gentoo can't do those things, but the installer is actually somewhat automated
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9517 @ 0.00027574 = 2.6242 BTC [-]
nubbins`: man for the life of me i can't reproduce these build steps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00028861 = 4.5889 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23623 @ 0.000289 = 6.827 BTC [+]
nubbins`: anyway, the general idea is to use bcp to rip everything out of boost that doesn't belong there
nubbins`: i think i'm maybe just ripping one or two things too many out of it
nubbins`: mildly annoying that i've got a binary but can't reproduce the process
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.000289 = 1.7051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00028779 = 4.4176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00028779 = 2.806 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00028808 = 4.3356 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mats: "The packages, at 4 inches by 6 inches, are not easily concealed, he said. And because of the single-use packaging, he said, it would be easier to spike a punchbowl with a large bottle of rum." << I was telling people you wouldn't lose volume by powdering the stuff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13869 @ 0.000289 = 4.0081 BTC [+]