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mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/052Xw <<< o hey, sharp finally found her way out ? this is good for linux.
assbot: Closing a door | The Geekess ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfAcKC )
mircea_popescu: "Mircea Popescu on October 5, 2015 at 5:17 pm said:
mircea_popescu: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
mircea_popescu: Good riddance.
mircea_popescu: You were the only toxic thing in that entire story. Hopefully your failure informs other women, at a young age when they confront the choice of whether to be sarah-sharp-toxic or productive members of society, and they choose to not be sarah-sharp-toxic. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Meanwhile, the only thing you will be remembered for is your noxious quality."
mircea_popescu: somehow i suspek it ain't getting published, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292365 << lol. i have yet to meet an argentinian that would be qualified to finish highschool. fortunately, online's a thing. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 22:19:23; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292160 << hot damn i have to start doing this. inquiring minds would love a list of List of People Kidnapped By MP This Week And What They Taught Him. also, does argentina actually have a dozen ppl worth mircea_popescu's time ~every~ week ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292364 << of course it was fucking planned. the cockroaches don't do anything without a lot of sitting around and chanting alinsky at each other ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 22:18:16; BingoBoingo: http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/60866-female-devs-outburst-against-torvalds-was-planned
mircea_popescu: for a few days at least.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34454 @ 0.00041 = 14.1261 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292416 << i lolled ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:20:01; pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes"
deedbot-: [Qntra] Bharara Snubbed By Supreme Court - http://qntra.net/2015/10/bharara-snubbed-by-supreme-court/
BingoBoingo: ^ Preet continues being ejected by the system which grew him ☟︎
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << this is a complex problem. it's unclear why third party should even be able to verify ratings. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:46:29; ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's
mircea_popescu: if you don't know me, i don't see why you have any right or any permission to use my ratings of someone else.
mircea_popescu: if you do know me, you can verify them.
BingoBoingo: From the "I'm not sure if the fundamently misunderstanding is even being misunderstood" department http://qntra.net/2015/10/vessenes-foundation-drops-sponsorship-of-node-explorer/#comment-63937
assbot: Vessenes' Foundation Drops Sponsorship of Node Explorer | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KX2xSS )
mircea_popescu: from the "we are young, we're free, why don't you sleep with me" department, http://41.media.tumblr.com/1b28ccdf0aeb0e6a237b388aa7aeafa9/tumblr_njnlik7Eb21qmb3uno1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VzY0h6 )
asciilifeform: aaah.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292464 << insert the great gossipd thread here ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 00:31:17; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << this is a complex problem. it's unclear why third party should even be able to verify ratings.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292462 << all i see here is 'don't meddle in the affairs of lizards' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 00:30:29; BingoBoingo: ^ Preet continues being ejected by the system which grew him
asciilifeform: wake me up when they let a preeted plebe go.
asciilifeform: e.g. ulbricht
BingoBoingo watching for that
asciilifeform: will be waitin' long time.
BingoBoingo: These people weren't exactly of the "scaled" class
asciilifeform: i've yet to see a fella who works for a living accused of 'insider trade'.
mircea_popescu: mostly because you work in sweatshop C rather than sweatshop A.
asciilifeform: zoolag F actually
asciilifeform: right next door to E.
BingoBoingo: These were more aspiring lizards.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292426 << iirc hearn ordered that his nodez lie about version ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:24:43; pete_dushenski: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/Bitcoin%20XT:0.11.0/ << '279' xt nodez. how many 'half-dollar aws instances' is left as an exercise to the reader.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292416 << >> 'there are two hard things: titanic nonproblem A and astonishing irrelevancy B !' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:20:01; pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes"
asciilifeform: how i loathe these 'deep thought' wankatronicists.
mircea_popescu: he wants to do p2p rpc
asciilifeform: straight to urbit.
asciilifeform: but srsly, who the everliving fuck cares how many times a message is delivered !
mircea_popescu: no, this one's with aeroplanes.
asciilifeform: or in what order
asciilifeform: (if you insist on enforcing order, do it cryptographically)
asciilifeform: how is this a problem of any kind.
mircea_popescu sets alf up for 1trn deliveries of the exact time
asciilifeform implodes into a cosmic singularity
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292428 << 'that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange eons' even scamz may die ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:27:06; pete_dushenski: and speaking of wowz and suches and muches and scamcoins, i just checked the chart for dogecoin and it's really surprisingly stable. also noted that $50-100k of the crap trades hands on a daily basis. then again, could be some dogederps trading with himself all day.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292441 << afaik there is no hard-crypto record of the logz (beyond snippets some of us may be willing to sign) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:46:29; ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wrote something re: how he wants wot as a very fluid and informal animal that can't be 'optimized against' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ergo no verify unless you're phriendz with the rater
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292419 << you can rate in private too, ya know ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:22:35; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mike_c some discrepancy here: http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=adlai&to=pete_dushenski and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292407
asciilifeform: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/rt-is-a-mock-up-of-the-real-thing/535896.html << tr0l0l0l
assbot: RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing | Opinion | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: (yes it was translated ~back~ to engl. just for extra l0l tonnage)
asciilifeform: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/nato-denounces-unacceptable-russian-incursion-into-turkey/536980.html << m0ar lulz from same fishwrap.
assbot: NATO Denounces 'Unacceptable' Russian Incursion Into Turkey | News | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPP54 )
asciilifeform: 'Konstantin Sonin, a columnist for Vedomosti, is a professor at the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy Studies and the Higher School of Economics in Moscow.' << so apparently they haven't purged ~all~ the vermin quite yet.
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/dodi/2015/opnav-5510-165a.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/3MPNQHF.txt >> mega-l0l!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmQrHI )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmQrHW )
asciilifeform: will there be an insider-threat-division in the insider-threat-division ?!
asciilifeform: how many levels of stack has the u.s. navy ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52292 @ 0.00041083 = 21.4831 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably Joe levels of Stack
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78103 @ 0.00040995 = 32.0183 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00041083 = 14.9542 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00041095 = 14.1778 BTC [+] {3}
hanbot: !b 3 ✂︎
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0HA1FN3.txt )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46264 @ 0.00041235 = 19.077 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29686 @ 0.00041523 = 12.3265 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mailz! ☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292450 << somehow i can't help but picture maggots, having devoured a quantity of gangrenous tissue, proceeding to living flesh - i.e. 'gnome' and 'kde' have been poetteringed into putrescent soup, and now it is time for the kernel... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 00:17:23; mircea_popescu: You were the only toxic thing in that entire story. Hopefully your failure informs other women, at a young age when they confront the choice of whether to be sarah-sharp-toxic or productive members of society, and they choose to not be sarah-sharp-toxic.
asciilifeform: aaaaaand it all goes back to hardware.
asciilifeform: it being the ONLY reason one cannot permanently nail down a kernel and pour cement over it.
asciilifeform: this ~will~ have to be addressed, or kittenz and rainbowz will come to grief.
asciilifeform: amd co., the old gentle giant, is not long for this world. which leaves intel, which is a malignancy.
asciilifeform: ten thousand kinds of vermin are quietly (and not so quietly) waiting for this day.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's sometimes-powerful medicine of putting on a blindfold and pretending that nothing happens outside of his wot - will not work here. ☟︎
asciilifeform: my own favourite pill, of stockpiling hardware, is also no kind of solution to anything.
asciilifeform: (anything outside of my humble zimbabwe hut, that is)
asciilifeform: new iron will have to be baked.
asciilifeform: (by whom...?)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00041625 = 25.5786 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.0004171 = 15.0573 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00040977 = 4.4665 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.00041799 = 27.1694 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50550 @ 0.00042138 = 21.3008 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00041937 = 10.3584 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: what is wrong with stockpiling AMD opterons?
gabriel_laddel: sure, it is only a temporary solution, but we've no other option
asciilifeform: stockpile the (increasingly unobtainable) mobos first
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00041527 = 19.7253 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: well, Black Mass http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1355683/ was a total disappointment
BingoBoingo: Johnny Depp is already a parody of himself. Give it two years and he'll do the Nicholas Cage thing where he fights for parts in straight to home video flicks just to pay the bills.
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/96K76xy.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hncGNZ )
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 240.88, vol: 24768.80455782 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 239.7, vol: 9857.40637 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 241.73, vol: 11952.90201183 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 250.0, vol: 1.28447416 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 245.432246, vol: 20504.38350000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 240.25001, vol: 86.56163666 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 242.378949989, vol: 47.69713933 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 242.247140954
trinque: ben_vulpes | worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one. << I have pondered making deedbot- eat rss feeds *of deeds*; sounds applicable here
trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing ☟︎☟︎
trinque: one for general deeds, one for buy/sell ads, one for rates?
trinque: something to think about. in other news, my journey is complete
trinque: you know, you could probably make a pretty cool DHT system where the indexes of interesting keys are the txns sent from particular addresses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139417 @ 0.00041696 = 58.1313 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17683 @ 0.00042265 = 7.4737 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6474 @ 0.00041548 = 2.6898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18032 @ 0.00042038 = 7.5803 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00042038 = 3.5501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00042415 = 13.3183 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64450 @ 0.00042634 = 27.4776 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: All gambling outside of BitBet is a scam http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/05/draftkings_and_fanduel_scrutinized_for_insider_info_after_employee_leak.html
assbot: DraftKings and FanDuel scrutinized for insider info after employee leak, win. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FU9J2X )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00042661 = 15.8486 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: BingoBoingo: how do people bet on fantasy sports? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: They each throw a bit of money into a pot, then winner/platform takes all
BingoBoingo: https://www.slimgr.com/images/2015/10/05/bebcbdb04a083de92f29ac067225e21d.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrUHTB )
BingoBoingo: It's apparently been a year https://imgur.com/a/6rk2e
assbot: Bearwhale - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrUZtD )
punkman: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/12/all-you-need-is-love/302351/
assbot: All You Need Is Love - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z6iJZ9 )
punkman: http://www.wired.com/2015/10/no-comments-allowed-reddits-new-news-site-upvoted/
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LeaLD2 )
punkman: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/im-on-twitter-too
assbot: We're Replacing Comments with Something Better | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1LeaTT8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.0004244 = 13.602 BTC [-]
cazalla: https://youtu.be/82UsZ44AxIA?t=4m50s
assbot: Japanese Man Accidentally Burns Down His House While Live Streaming | Japanese Streamer Home Fire - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Leds7D )
cazalla: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: ty
gabriel_laddel: http://www.tanyakhovanova.com/Jokes/jokes.html ☟︎
assbot: Math Humor ... ( http://bit.ly/1LedQ5V )
gabriel_laddel: some choice lines
gabriel_laddel: "Entropy isn't what it used to be."
gabriel_laddel: "What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?"
gabriel_laddel: "Grigori Perelman's theorem: There is no offer you can't refuse."
gabriel_laddel: most are meh, but w/e
gabriel_laddel: * * * Windows error messages in haiku
gabriel_laddel: A file that big?
gabriel_laddel: It might be very useful.
gabriel_laddel: But now it is gone.
gabriel_laddel: ABORTED effort:
gabriel_laddel: Close all that you have worked on.
gabriel_laddel: You ask way too much.
gabriel_laddel: "No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’" ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: Wow, brilliant guys. Really, truly, innovative. Von N., Turing, Engelbart, McCarthy etc would be proud.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00042439 = 9.761 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00042664 = 12.1166 BTC [+]
gabriel_laddel: If a man tries to fail and succeeds, which did he do?
gabriel_laddel: A PHD in string theory!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292505 << yeah he did, http://trilema.com/2011/arta-pedepsirii/ and conversationally many places such as recently http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-09-2015#1288346 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 01:12:45; asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wrote something re: how he wants wot as a very fluid and informal animal that can't be 'optimized against'
assbot: Arta pedepsirii on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Leh4qa )
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 09:29:18; mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292510 <<< bwahahaha and moscow times is the real thing ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 01:26:11; assbot: RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing | Opinion | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg )
mircea_popescu: such lulz.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the russian did it poorly. should have been America Today.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292538 << pfff! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 03:02:26; asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's sometimes-powerful medicine of putting on a blindfold and pretending that nothing happens outside of his wot - will not work here.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292563 << no it doesn't, simmer down. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 05:28:10; trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing
mircea_popescu: not everything that isn't specced but could be specced should be. that's how idiocy gets in.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292577 << they don't. they fantasize that they did. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 07:59:14; punkman: BingoBoingo: how do people bet on fantasy sports?
mircea_popescu has skipped atantic, wired, vice links. will continue to do so.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292529 << no i don't ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 02:49:33; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mailz!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77500 @ 0.00042667 = 33.0669 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96772 @ 0.00042695 = 41.3168 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52150 @ 0.00042886 = 22.365 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00042949 = 9.7065 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93450 @ 0.00043183 = 40.3545 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: so upon examination it turns out that polimedia mx dns record has been poisoned somehow, or what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: anyone else see Preferred: 10p.nsm.ctmail.com38.113.116.194 c9bh03.amadis.com ESMTP Postfix
mircea_popescu: ?
kakobrekla: ;; ANSWER SECTION:
kakobrekla: polimedia.us. 3599 IN MX 10 p.nsm.ctmail.com.
gribble: Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: da fuck.
mircea_popescu: local zone is correct.
mircea_popescu: ;; ANSWER SECTION:
gribble: Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: polimedia.us.1800INA64.74.223.37
mircea_popescu: ahaha what the everloving fuck.
punkman: I get p.nsm.ctmail.com too
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does this even work ? http://dpaste.com/1PBK2J4
assbot: dpaste: 1PBK2J4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUx6t2 )
punkman: bunch of other people had their MX directed to p.nsm.ctmail.com if you google it
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/09J1H1A << hijack through and through.
assbot: dpaste: 09J1H1A ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUxqIm )
mircea_popescu: "Hello, ctmail.com is a domain used by Internet security software and devices. For more information please contact info@support.ctmail.com."
mircea_popescu: ahem.
mircea_popescu: ‎
mircea_popescu: For security reason, we cannot have an internal link available to the Public. Please bookmark this link https://ctmail.ct.gov so you can access the site directly.
assbot: Outlook Web App ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUxyaM )
mircea_popescu: www.ct.gov/best/cwp/view.asp?a=2297&q=520956‎
mircea_popescu: ct.gov, seriously ? obscure "antivirus" corp with no product ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59900 @ 0.00043225 = 25.8918 BTC [+]
punkman: http://forums.hostgator.com/livechat-support-disgrace-pls-assist-t137495.html?s=6cb4f57e7b796879cba64a4d497108d8&amp;
punkman: http://mxlist.net/p.nsm.ctmail.com/
assbot: mxlist of p.nsm.ctmail.com page 1/16219 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUydZK )
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291025 <<< because second edition ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 19:25:58; AgentScully: I'm kind of sad no one liked my applied crypto pic
mircea_popescu: punkman 16k pages worht of hijacked domains ?!
punkman: right, and nobody has written a blog post about this so far, has been happening for years
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: there's something too weird for life here.
mircea_popescu: o da fuck. Expires On October 01, 2015
punkman: polimedia?
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: "After reviewing your chat transcripts, it appears in the first chat that the Junior Administrator stated specifically what the issue was, which is that the domain is expired as of 8/7/2011. There was also clarification provided that you'd need to contact the registrar directly for the renewal and to update the DNS back to our name-servers."
mircea_popescu: in your link.
mircea_popescu: no fucking wonder's been going on for yearsnobody wrote about it. they'd have to write "umm....lolz"
punkman: so namecheap changed mx record after it expired?
mircea_popescu: myeah
punkman: am disappoint, dns poisoning would've been cool
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly.
asciilifeform: ok wat is this.
punkman: they should have thrown some kind of error though, instead of silently accepting all teh emails
asciilifeform: oh noez zey stole me ciphertext!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's kinda what was wtfing me, what, i don't paste enough of inbound spam in here or wtf is their problem.
mircea_popescu: punkman im sure they bounced.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/01B20TA.txt << here it is again. and don't forget to check sig inside.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUzJv8 )
mircea_popescu: danke.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a psa/reminder that in point of fact there is ZERO security wrt email. i, or you, or anyone bored one evening can hijack a mx record, read all teh inbound mail etc.
mircea_popescu: if you imagine email has any sort of security you're nuts.
asciilifeform used to work for an outfit that made millions simply in ensuring that this kind of snafu did not happen, for megacorp clients
asciilifeform: this is also a psa/reminder that enemy may not read pgp message, but can substitute his own for yours! sign the material inside.
mircea_popescu: in other unrelated news, namecheap wants 200 bucks to renew your expired domain
mircea_popescu: they do however have a 27 day grace period on top of the 5 day grace period etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is sop
punkman: mircea_popescu: no wai, I just did one the other day for $15
asciilifeform: most of these extortionists have a 'purgatory'
mircea_popescu: yes cuz within the 27 days. they only charged me 8.5 or so
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292594 << these are mostly classics ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 09:09:51; gabriel_laddel: http://www.tanyakhovanova.com/Jokes/jokes.html
asciilifeform: 'The population density of USA is 100 square people per mile.' << win.
asciilifeform has a fat manually-typewritten stack of these 'militarizms' somewhere
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63300 @ 0.00043446 = 27.5013 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: mk we should be back in business. asciilifeform mind remailing me just to see this goes through ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: resent
mircea_popescu: anyway, the reason this went by unobserved for ~20 hours is that a) internal mail still worked, obviousyl, and b) enom decently adds its record with priority 10. there's a bugfeature apparently where some relayers/dns servers prefer higher priority records even if older.
mircea_popescu: either that or they didn't actually change it until the 3rd.
asciilifeform: it still blows my mind that we're relying on a thing that sits on top of dns.
mircea_popescu: ~relying
mircea_popescu: well so i got your email but apparently there;s still someting wrong because it's all garbled and what is this "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" stuff.
asciilifeform: wut?!
asciilifeform: diff w/paste ?
asciilifeform: or both similarly garbled ?
mircea_popescu: i'm just being silly!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00043613 = 14.4795 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform is l0ling over 'norsena corp.' in mircea_popescu's dns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39902 @ 0.00044443 = 17.7336 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: what, it's a corp.
asciilifeform: as seen in 'asylum'
mircea_popescu: darn.
mircea_popescu: iirc the idea was that nobody'll ever notice.
asciilifeform: l0lz
asciilifeform noticed ages ago but promptly forgot
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292608 << this was, iirc, tried (abolition of comments on american fishwrap sites) a few yrs ago, but abandoned because it is too pyongyang ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 09:15:29; gabriel_laddel: "No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’"
asciilifeform: i.e. abandons the appearance of k0nsensoos
mircea_popescu: they'll keep trying. what else is there to do ? compete with pete in pr ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, did i ever tell you i did all the typesetting of that thing myself ?
mircea_popescu: sent files straight to the printer.
asciilifeform: almost like there is some threshold that is crossed (i.e. ~all~ of the comments on an article re: recent oregon 'postal' being such that concern organized mass disarmament) and then they 'ban commentz now!?!!!'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my understanding is that all self-published items are typeset personally ?
asciilifeform: i mean, how else
asciilifeform: but yes, a thinking man goes and latex
asciilifeform: this is sop.
mircea_popescu: a) the printer can't use latex ; b) self published generally means, PoD and a sharky editor that fleeces the hopeful. this was actually printed on web press, so in this sense everything else printed hence is a lot more "self published" than asylum.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: printer tells you what he eats, then you make latex shit it.
mircea_popescu: it may not be the last web pressed fiction offering in the us, but it won't be far ahead of the last i dun think
asciilifeform: typically the machines are able to eat postscript.
mircea_popescu: aha yep, ps.
asciilifeform: no one eats straight latex, afaik
mircea_popescu: but you know, machine shop ps. postscript-with-quirks.
asciilifeform: well aha, they send you params
mircea_popescu: actually in the early 2000s there was some effort on the part of mfgs to support latex
mircea_popescu: it died with the death of the entire publishing industry (actual publishing, ie, putting ink to paper. not predend publishing, aka editing newspapers etc)
asciilifeform has cases full of various items printed by fully-automated print houses with 'put ps here and money here' wwwtronic vending machine
asciilifeform: this has been a thing for some years.
mircea_popescu: all that's pod and if you inspect the covers you'll see the difference between layflat process and pod covers.
asciilifeform: it is not hard to tell apart
asciilifeform: laserprint toner shines
mircea_popescu: back then it wasn't even fucking expensive, iirc it cost ~25 cents per
asciilifeform: (and, after some years, comes off the page)
mike_c: ;;later tell pete_dushenski I don't see a discrepancy. It updates nightly with the wot database dumps. So probably he changed the rating and btcalpha hadn't picked up the change yet.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the economics of webprint are not unlike those of circuit board
asciilifeform: yes, make 3000 and it is 25c each.
mircea_popescu: quite identical.
mircea_popescu: mike_c he didn't know you can rate in pm, most likely.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall what the run was. maybe 8k ?
asciilifeform: the sad part is that there is no real reason why pod couldn't offer a decent cover
asciilifeform: for extra $$
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292666 << i have this edition. it pre-dates his public betrayal and is, afaik, uncensored (vs 1st) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 12:41:59; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291025 <<< because second edition
asciilifeform: schneier's book
asciilifeform: afaik everyone who programs, has this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the "back then" comment is that i'd be much surprised you can find sanely priced layflat process anymore. because yes, mass production needs the mass.
asciilifeform: 'Dear students! Remember that money can solve anything! Even complicated differential equations.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recently popped a crate with 4th ed. stroustrup. it was, to my surprise, proper lay-flat. but the pleasant surprise turned to ick when i saw that it, for no particular reason, had blue as well as black print, and a good fraction of the blue is smudged !
asciilifeform: in some places, even double-struck
asciilifeform: to the point of unreadability
asciilifeform: who does this?!
mircea_popescu: what ?!
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu recalls "specialty ink" was more expensive than "double the run"
mircea_popescu: yes i briefly considered printing it in green
asciilifeform: at least it clearly wasn't laser-print!
asciilifeform: (laser print does not behave this way)
mircea_popescu: but perhaps it was handprinted.
asciilifeform: devil knows
asciilifeform: fiddybux doesn't buy handprint, afaik
asciilifeform: the strongest hypothesis is that it was 'we don't giveafuck, you'll buy it'-manufactured.
mircea_popescu: fiddybux buys ~half of reddit.
mircea_popescu: clucked, if you prefer, rather than handprint
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: '—Some bike thief managed to open my combination lock. How could they possibly guess that the combo was the year of the canonization of Saint Dominic by Pope Gregory IX at Rieti, Italy? —What year was that? —1234.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4580 @ 0.00044575 = 2.0415 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/navy-diversifies-ships-cyber-systems-to-foil-hackers << l0l! betcha they have win98 on one, 95 on others, NT on yet others...
assbot: Navy Diversifies Ships' Cyber Systems to Foil Hackers - IEEE Spectrum ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4qk0N )
asciilifeform: d1v3rs1ty!!!11
asciilifeform: 'Swartz had grown moody and stopped showing up to work. At one point, after he wrote a blog post envisioning his own death, Ohanian called the police to break into his apartment. Swartz laughed it off. Meanwhile, publicly, he called himself one of Reddit’s cofounders, taking credit for an idea Huffman and Ohanian believed to be theirs alone. In January of 2007, he was fired. Six years later, he hanged himself while facing a
asciilifeform: federal criminal trial on hacking and fraud charges.'
asciilifeform: l0l, unpersoned already.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.0004544 = 25.1738 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: assbot> [upon reading about it on trilema,] Navy Diversifies Ships' Cyber Systems to Foil Hackers - IEEE Spectrum << FTFT.
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b16
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00052496 = 1.0499 BTC [-]
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funkenstein_: http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cps/5184080755.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ojt1ll )
funkenstein_: whoops gone already sorry
fluffypony: what was it, funkenstein_?
funkenstein_: https://web.archive.org/web/20151004213142/https://southjersey.craigslist.org/cps/5184080755.html
assbot: $50 / to plug in a box! ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjtlAn )
funkenstein_: fluffypony, i was gonna ask you
funkenstein_: somebody wants moar noadz i guess
diametric: ugh i hate when the channel notifies me my nick was mentioned but then it gets lost in scrollback.
punkman: http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-October/026685.html
assbot: [Cryptography] OpenPGP SEIP downgrade attack ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjvR9W )
jurov: diametric, set your scrollback to 1000 lines :)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75850 @ 0.00049797 = 37.771 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57600 @ 0.00050422 = 29.0431 BTC [+] {5}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: 'The implications are, among others, that an encrypted and signed message can be stripped of its signature and modified arbitrarily, with certain restrictions, by an attacker without knowing the key.' << ahahahaha
ascii_field: which is why i say IF NOT SIGNED, MESSAGE IS FROM HITLER
ascii_field: 'GPG throws a warning [3] that the message could have been modified, but other implementations do not differentiate between SE and SEIP.' << what 'other implementations' ? microshit crypto ?
trinque: diametric also for weechat there's himon.pl
trinque: gives you a buffer of highlights
diametric: supposedly my bouncer is suppose to capture my damn highlights but it never seems to work right.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: see also old thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-09-2015#1285200 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:45:37; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285102 << presently they are quite unlike! hash type for general-purpose message signing is ~selectable~ from the handful of traditional algos; hash for signature ~of keys~ is hardwired to sha1 !
ascii_field: and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-09-2015#1284794 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:12:48; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284625 << aha. but ever notice that it's sha1, and can't be changed to anything else? and, likewise, self-sigs are hardcoded to use sha1? it is pestilentially pervasive in the rfc, and Must Die
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290898 <<< roquefort > brie for omelettes ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 16:11:55; mircea_popescu: psa : brie is THE omlette cheese.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever seen "Forbidden Zone"?
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: i have not.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: if i'm responding to a message that was encrypted to my key, and demonstrate knowledge of the cleartext, does that not support unhitlerdom?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: nope
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: think:
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zimsUDzOiSM << fun sample
assbot: Forbidden Zone DANNY ELFMAN DEVIL--COLOR - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXpiV )
mircea_popescu: davout they don;'t have much roquefort here, unfortunately.
ascii_field: 1) i encrypt a message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 2) i send to him 3) hitler picks it up from the wire and throws it away 4) hitler encrypts substitute message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 5) he sends
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes now has spurious message.
mircea_popescu: this is valuable.
ascii_field: valuable if he knows that it is spurious.
ascii_field: otherwise lethal.
mircea_popescu: we'd think ben_vulpes knows better.
ben_vulpes: i'd dearly lurve to see hitler diddle freenode like that
mircea_popescu: or in general. cheap spying, really.
mircea_popescu: "here's what hitler WANTED you to think he said".
mircea_popescu: and with that, i shall be off to buy wine. to sweeten the wait, i leave you with http://40.media.tumblr.com/5bd6f2d522cf52c46ae7a696e0b69054/tumblr_nj0ketRqJs1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXS4G )
ascii_field: any halfway decent hitler plants ~deniable~ diddles.
ascii_field: l0l chewing gum section !
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQi3TxGWwAQvyv3.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUYzuE )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00050016 = 1.9756 BTC [-]
ascii_field: in other nyooz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-worlds-silliest-empire.html
assbot: ClubOrlov: The World's Silliest Empire ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUZKdF )
ascii_field: 'The first bit of extreme silliness surfaced when Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, the head of the United States Central Command, told a Senate panel that only a very small number of Syrian fighters trained by the United States remained in the fight—perhaps as few as five. The tab for training and equipping them was $500 million. That's $100 million per fighter, but that's OK, because it's all good as long as the militar
ascii_field: y contractors are getting paid. Things got even sillier when it later turned out that even these few fighters got car-jacked by ISIS/al Qaeda in Syria (whatever they are currently calling themselves) and got their vehicles and weapons taken away from them.'
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29604 @ 0.00050037 = 14.813 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_field: 'Undeterred by diplomacy, the US squeezed off a couple of cruise missiles in the general direction of Syria, but the Russians promptly shot them out of the sky, triggering a major rethink at the Pentagon and, of course, making the US look rather silly.' << i missed this?
ascii_field: 'Of course, being Americans, they have to prosecute this information war in the silliest way possible. First, you trot out your claims of civilian casualties before the Russians fly a single sortie. Oops! Then you stuff the social media with fake pictures of wounded children produced beforehand by performers in white helmets paid for by George Soros. And then, when asked for evidence, you refuse to provide any.' << l0lz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00050016 = 1.5255 BTC [-]
jurov 's admining the bash ... and would like to have "please resubmit this to wiki" button
jurov: for stuff like this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277335 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 02:29:13; asciilifeform: !b 13
jurov: or the badminton gayness thread
jurov: whatever, flushed. BingoBoingo if you are ever about to !bN where N > 5, just add it to wiki.
ascii_field: neato
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: how's the wine mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: dude this country... so there's a nice wine shop, trying you know, to be upscale.
mircea_popescu: i go in, i want to buy stuff, i select a decent half dozen. i get TWENTYFIVE OFF for paying cash.
mircea_popescu: 25%, fancy that. clearly visa is such a challenger for bitcoin.
ascii_field: sounds more like an orc selling under the register
mircea_popescu: then, the guy can't work his fucking machine, takes him longer to input my economic activity into his fucking compuer than it took me to engage in it.
ascii_field: (puts money in pocket, writes down 'broke some bottles, sorry')
mircea_popescu: dude was clearly shop owner.
mircea_popescu: moving on : he can't fucking pack for the life of him.
ascii_field: perhaps has a partner
ascii_field: who needs to not-be-paid a bit
mircea_popescu: i bought two champagne flutes of actual genuine bohemian glass (i tested, couldn't believe either)
mircea_popescu: 90 peso each. ~5 dollars.
mircea_popescu: then he packed them. he packed ONE in about a cubic foot of corrugated cardboard, sat the other bare next to it. just like that, in the bag.
ascii_field: is leaded glass such a rarity today?
mircea_popescu: since they decided to pretend like " swarovski crystals" yes.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it is fucking impossible to make sense of these people. it's like selective down syndrome, only half the brain is affected.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not like he didn't give me a receipt.
ascii_field: in usa it's the other half..
ascii_field: (but often, both.)
mircea_popescu: srsly. in usa it's the other half.
mircea_popescu: the fucked up sorts of choices one has to face.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you think, if you decide in your late 40s to switch gears and open a wanna-be wine shop, that you pick up the fucking book of how to pack, do exercises in your garage, something ?
ascii_field: i've been - imho, very decently - packing 'ebay' gizmos for yearz
mircea_popescu: just so customers don't look at you while you amble around with your two left legs transplanted for arms ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu actually got to see an example of my l337 p4ck1ng
ascii_field: at least, what ro customs left of it !
mircea_popescu: lol right.
mircea_popescu: http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/10/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-by-migrants-pressured-into-silence-to-not-damage-cause-3061790.html << wonder how true this is.
assbot: ‘No Borders’ Activist Gang Raped By Migrants, Pressured Into Silence To Not ‘Damage Cause’ | Opinion - Conservative ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4VPIi )
mircea_popescu: not that it's not readily believable, not that there aren't excellent reasons why it's not in the usg agitprop.
mircea_popescu: im sure all the libertard activists are gonna be all over libtardsplainin' this one.
ascii_field: they had at least one almost identical case during the tahrir square idiocy
mircea_popescu: they will continue to have exactly identicalones for as long as uppitty overfed western women get to interact with the real world.
ascii_field: most of them know better than to venture into the 'real world', aha
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29440 @ 0.00049444 = 14.5563 BTC [-]
ascii_field: http://talosintel.com/angler-exposed << lulzy, spamatronic
assbot: Talos Intel - Threat Spotlight: Angler Exposed Generating Millions in Revenue ... ( http://bit.ly/1MboJKW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00049301 = 15.2094 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 377759 | Current Difficulty: 6.0813224039440346E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 379007 | Next Difficulty In: 1248 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: <jurov> whatever, flushed. BingoBoingo if you are ever about to !bN where N > 5, just add it to wiki. << k
punkman: so many lolz in bash, someone's gotta do a stand up show
punkman: http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-treasury-bonds-pull-back-1444052528
assbot: Yield of 0% a First at 3-Month Treasury-Bill Sale - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1hoRpDk )
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly.
mircea_popescu: i keep wondering reading that if it's just you know, me lolzing because insider jokes and it's really more like lolsnort,
mircea_popescu: or whether genuinely hysterical.
punkman: there's both
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20209 @ 0.00049301 = 9.9632 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: prolly.
mircea_popescu: anyway, lassia 2013 malbec/csauvignon coupage is quite adequate sandwich wine.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck they use plastic corks is beyond me, but anyway.
hanbot: cvasignon! what do you sandwich it with?
punkman: maybe they can't import enough cork
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00049678 = 24.1932 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: punkman i'd expect cork tree grows here.
mircea_popescu: it grows in fucking greece ffs.
hanbot: portugal.
mircea_popescu: it grows all over, it's oak.
punkman: I don't think there's enough to go around these days
mircea_popescu: hanbot you sandwich fiambres!
deedbot-: [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2015-statement/
mircea_popescu: re that article, i would direct the esteemed readership to footnote three in very particular.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292563 << no it doesn't, simmer down. << sure I'm not actually going to do this ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 05:28:10; trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing
trinque: curious though how to make the WoT generally available data
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the thing is practically begging to be c++11-ized
trinque: perhaps it must be centralized in some manner, though perhaps backed up elsewhere
ascii_field: with refcountatronic pointers, etc
mircea_popescu: trinque the major point s that wot is not actually generally available. just like trust is not a scalar,
mircea_popescu: wot data is meanginelss out of context.
trinque: that makes sense
mircea_popescu: i might care what i rated x, or what you rated x. but the meaning of these ratings to a third party we don't know is necessarily 0.
mircea_popescu: obviously the ustardian approach to things ("let's steal someshit!") will try and pretend like it's not so, to "build a business" out of it.
mircea_popescu: but notwithstandingtheir hopes and aspirations to "build businesses", you can't make money renting out the space inside your nose.
mircea_popescu: as carlin aptly observed.
ascii_field: where was that thread
ascii_field: with gossipd/wot
mircea_popescu: in the logs!!1 :D
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-01-2015#968123 << found it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 05:29:32; mircea_popescu: this harms because : it gives unknowns a weight they should not have ; it removes the incentive for users to police at their local level ; it allows third parties to construct undeniable chatlogs that they had no business in.
mircea_popescu: aye!
BingoBoingo: Kernel PhorCT by ShitGnomes: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel
assbot: Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md8vg6 )
ascii_field: 10,001 people have forked the kernel...
ascii_field: for fucks sake ~i~ forked the kernel
ascii_field: snore.
BingoBoingo: But this time with more Social Justice Whales
mike_c: trinque - you know the wot database is dumped nightly, right?
trinque: yeah, we've just got this fancy decentralized database and so everything looks like a nail
mike_c: there's enough broken things around to fix. the wot seems to be working :)
trinque: sure sure, was idle speculation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38895 @ 0.00049678 = 19.3223 BTC [+]
mike_c: now if we could decentralize PCB routing..
mike_c: maybe ethereum can do it
BingoBoingo: Random language turds by the would be usurper: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/35416.html https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/36376.html https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/33455.html
assbot: mjg59 | Internet abuse culture is a tech industry problem ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97Cs )
assbot: mjg59 | Reverse this ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97SN )
assbot: mjg59 | On joining the FSF board ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97lY )
BingoBoingo: "Being a cis white man who's a native English speaker from a fairly well-off background, I'm pretty familiar with privilege. "
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: which garrett is this ?!
mircea_popescu: oh. for a momenbt i thought it was the lord british garrett.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares seriously.
mircea_popescu: "Cutting yourself off from that community impairs your ability to do work"
mircea_popescu: dude get fucked, cutting b=a from the imbecillity has improved its ability to do work like 10x if not more.
mircea_popescu: one sufficient reason ethereum will never ever amount to anything is exactly its failure to cut itself off from idiots.
mircea_popescu: and so forth.
BingoBoingo: Just you wait, next this heretic kernel gets KDBUS then Debian will switch to it. Maybe Fedora first because of Poettering.
Naphex: https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdaYXQ )
mircea_popescu: heck, bitcoin got a lot better once it cut itself off from the usgavin & freiends
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo debian can switch to dead squirrel for all the difference it makes to me.
mircea_popescu: <Naphex> https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month. ☟︎☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdaYXQ )
Naphex: aye i'll have a special section for all this soon. at the moment first report delivered like this
ascii_field: countdown to 'intel et al supports garret kernel only' in 3, 2, 1...
mircea_popescu: yaya
mircea_popescu: they can support "free syrian militia" or w/e also for all the difference it makes irl.
ascii_field: in irl they make hardware.
ascii_field: soon to be the only workstation hardware.
ascii_field: 'For far too long, Linux has discriminated against "differently abled" code, with all its segregationist notions of kernel-vs-userspace. And even within userspace, could the very word "permissions" get any closer to "privilege"??? At long last, viruses we have historically relegated to the slums of Windows will finally have the right to run in the ivory sandbox of Linux - We need "Runtime Justice" for all code, whether
ascii_field: CLI or GUI, whether drivers or devices, whether signed or malware! There is no such thing as an "illegal" instruction!' << win
ascii_field: best tr0l0l0l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18982 @ 0.00049232 = 9.3452 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: '"He is a recipient of the Free Software Award from the Free Software Foundation for his work on Secure Boot, UEFI, and the Linux kernel". Ah! All the bits that I *don't* want in the kernel. Did he work on systemd too?'
ascii_field: this was a thing ?!!!
mircea_popescu: see, thisis the problem of weak men.
mircea_popescu: rms poses as strong, is weak, on this word taken at its word fsf is born, then i have to contend with "fucking awards"
mircea_popescu: i propose to you that there is exactly one reason satoshi kept quiet and buggered off.
mircea_popescu: that reason is - that he did not want to face my wrath.
ascii_field: eh, steve morse is still alive
ascii_field: (author of 8086)
ascii_field: faced wrath of mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: how did that quote go
mircea_popescu: "Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."
mircea_popescu: anyway. the advantage of anon & disappeared as opposed to "going to every conference that serves pasta" is that you don't have to face the "i fucking expected better of you" reproach. ☟︎
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/a024c31891a9a2b521cc0371f84a9fa7/tumblr_niwz0aLZHB1skwz29o1_1280.jpg << not bad idea huh.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ph0tbk )
jurov: imma send any gay with doubts to this chan
mircea_popescu: whyssat ?
mircea_popescu: !up livegnik
jurov: if they aren't aroused by these chicks, then there is no doubt left :D
mircea_popescu: notrly, just upping people.
mircea_popescu: jurov is gayness actually "not aroused by women" ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was more along the "prefers to fuck guys"
jurov: what else
mircea_popescu: if a dude's aroused by stockings he's not a stockingay now, is he ?
jurov: "women in stockings arouse me. am i gay or not?"
mircea_popescu has known plenty of gay dudes fetishistically aroused by slavegirls, in the slave aspect rather than in the girl aspect
mircea_popescu: "wannabe her"
jurov: oh that. i was joking about dudes that cannot distinguish that yet.
mircea_popescu: aok :p
jurov: ;;seen williamdunne
gribble: williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <williamdunne> But yah
livegnik: Thnx mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50650 @ 0.00048715 = 24.6741 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.46, Best ask: 247.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 247.47, 24 hour volume: 17622.82420398, 24 hour low: 240.71, 24 hour high: 249.01, 24 hour vwap: None
mike_c: I'm tired of 200->300->200->300->...
mike_c: get a new trick ticker.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: dude it's stable like visa!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41821 @ 0.00049678 = 20.7758 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: eur/usd!
Naphex: after some feedback i have cleaned the xotika.tv report some. A revised version is available here: https://xotika.tv/static/report_06102015_v2.html
assbot: XOtika.TV Statement - 08/06/2015 to 06/10/2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv2DwI )
mike_c: !rated naphex
assbot: You have not rated naphex.
mike_c: !rate naphex 2 serial btc entrepreneur
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/296b3becab046f29
mircea_popescu: super cereal!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is it domain/avatar.png or /avatar.jpg on your blog for avatars?
mircea_popescu: you can just source a page you knwo
mike_c: positive cash flow.. looks like a bizness to me
mircea_popescu: so it does.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00048403 = 13.5044 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: seems he hit the ground running, at least sofar.
mircea_popescu: anyway, youtube substitute is certainly needed in teh republic.
mircea_popescu: say Naphex, wouldn't you want to run a server for s.nsa too ?
Naphex: i also have otika.tv domains ready for non adult related content
mircea_popescu: i'll pay the upfront for colo, you just have to do the minimal sysadmining ascii_field might require
Naphex: but it sure as hell needs a lot more capacity
Naphex: and servers and the way to monetizing everything is long
mircea_popescu: one expansion idea would be somnething like a mumble server. but integrated with xotika.
mircea_popescu: somehow. dunno how. but gamers and strippers is the winner combo. ☟︎
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field needs very little other than the box
mircea_popescu: mike_c anyway, willprobably have to yield some of the % which is maybe high atm. but still, i think it has nice perspectives.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: percentage is right about perfect at the moment; performers adjust the price and tipping is completly voluntary
Naphex: i will be yielding up to 35% based on quarterly performance
mircea_popescu: makes sense
Naphex: or better yet; down too
Naphex: performers have a goal system soon to be objective system they can set up
mircea_popescu: cool.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> say Naphex, wouldn't you want to run a server for s.nsa too ? << ?
Naphex: can do
mircea_popescu: what's your provider quote for a 32gb amd something with ~1tb hdd ?
Naphex: tell me what you need and i can call my rep and sort it out
Naphex: i'll get a quote on that tomorrow
mircea_popescu: danke.
Naphex: i usually buy my own hardware and use that pay per 1U
Naphex: most of their offers are supermicro's but have all sorts
mircea_popescu can picture alf jumping up and down
Naphex: i use 2U dells
mircea_popescu: yeah i can see buying the hw and getting 1u or 2u as needed.
Naphex: you can buy the hardware and ship it to the DC
mircea_popescu: really it should fit in 1u i think ?
ascii_field: i've yet to see this kind of thing in 1u
ascii_field: but who knows
mike_c: really? you can fit a lot in 1u these days
mircea_popescu: i thought they mostly fit it in 1u by now.
mircea_popescu not an expert.
mike_c: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816110055
assbot: ASUS RS500A-E6/PS4 1U Rackmount Server Barebone Dual Socket G34 AMD SR5650 DDR3 1600/1333/1066/800 - Newegg.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv3Vb7 )
ascii_field: neato
mircea_popescu: and under the overheard in my house heading, "would you like to taste my pee ?" "sure. but... didn't you just have asparagus ?" "aha" "that's supposed to be the #1 pee ruiner." "oh man, i can actually taste the asparagus wow!" "is it strong ?" "it's pretty strong yeah".
mircea_popescu: i guess tomorrow im having pineapple.
ascii_field: l0l!
ascii_field: next, amanita magic mushroom ?
ascii_field: (expelled unchanged!)
mircea_popescu: im not that into psychoactives.
ascii_field: sure. but asparagus only goes so far..
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/ac190b527e8e20d91509f94f9223a734/tumblr_nj0jkzJ4a41u4e2kko1_1280.jpg << transparent is for virgin!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv4B0f )
BingoBoingo: lol https://archive.is/vpCKt
assbot: Bitpay payments not being paid " invalid transaction associated to this invoice as a result of the stress test" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv4VvQ )
BingoBoingo: So malleability thing going now, excepting retards that do the 0-conf depend on txid... pretty much a mempool bloater ☟︎
jurov: and it helps exchange rate, it seems
jurov: re:mempool, interesting that stan found out txen are never actually freed (see last S.NSA report) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Especially never freed if never mined, because malleable got the other conf'd first
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: https://www.hackinparis.com/sites/hackinparis.com/files/lopes_esteves_kasmi_you_dont_hear_me.pdf << lulzy. >> http://dpaste.com/1DV84YN.txt (missing, of course, illustrations)
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv5HJd )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv5HJj )
ascii_field: ^ in case anyone did not understand that 'voice command' is asinine ☟︎
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293105 << i would like to see some of the folks here independently confirm this discovery. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 20:54:27; jurov: re:mempool, interesting that stan found out txen are never actually freed (see last S.NSA report)
ascii_field: and more people-other-than-me-hacking-on-therealbitcoin in general.
ascii_field: ;;seen artifexd
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
ascii_field: eh.
BingoBoingo: Half a year in the life
ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << user interfaces in china. interesting enough to be worth the work (googletranslate if you must)
assbot: Что я узнал про интерфейсы в реальном мире в Китае / Блог компании Мосигра / Хабрахабр ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv6rOE )
ascii_field: epic mega-treatise.
trinque: Given that the main problem of the country - to cope with different types of DDoS on the infrastructure due to the large number of users, different solutions are born. For example, the train has a separate toilet and separate washrooms. Excellent TRIZ principle - separation. << thinking about human DDOS... awesome.
ascii_field: re: triz:
ascii_field: !s altshuller
assbot: 2 results for 'altshuller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=altshuller
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-05-2014#685942 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2014 17:16:09; asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: 'And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.' by Genrich Altshuller.
ascii_field: ^ mega-scholar
ascii_field: in all seriousness
ascii_field: imho the only man to have ever gotten anywhere studying invention in the abstract.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00048697 = 9.569 BTC [+]
trinque: !up ascii_field
trinque: many houses in Portland had that stairstepped portion as on the bridge
trinque: on steep driveways
mod6: sweet, V code is basically complete. one remaining test left to write surrouding 'press' (shouldn't take long), then just documentation to write about the thing.
mod6: almost there :]
ascii_field: mod6: neat!
ascii_field: mod6: what's surrounding-press ?
ascii_field: oh i get it
ascii_field: this is your v-in-perl ?
mod6: yeah. i mean, "cucumber automated test that surrounds (gives coverage to) the press function"
ascii_field: ah
mod6: so that's the only thing left and then just user documentation. and then can start passing around the first version for people to try out to ensure of zero major defects.
ascii_field: mod6: you may end up, like it or not, king of 'v' ! see latest s.nsa broadcast. ☟︎
mod6: then will publish to th elist.
mod6: I saw your comments in your monthly s.nsa broadcast :)
ascii_field: my only real quibble with the preview of this (or was it punkman's ??) 'v' shown a while back, is that it used interactive questions to user
ascii_field: 'v' really needs to be a pure commandline thing
ascii_field: as in, there ought to be no operations which result in prompts
mod6: ah, no this thing doesn't prompt at all. just command line flags. works a lot like your implementation. no caching, etc.
ascii_field: then great.
mod6: one major difference is i'm using Getopt::Long to control user input -- which ends up altering flags instead of 'w' for wot, ends up being '-w' or '--wot' but I think we can get over that.
ascii_field: why does it demand the - ?
mod6: its just how it determines options from values.
mod6: perhaps later, i could rebuild my own or something.
ascii_field: can't just get argv raw ?
mod6: I actually started with this, but .. it got hairy to control some of the input.
mod6: Tried out Getopt::Long and it was able to do what I wanted with much less arm-wrestling.
mod6: Eh, who knows, maybe I can take another wack at that part before I'm finished here.
BingoBoingo: !t m s.qntr
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00024131 / 0.00028698 / 0.0003036 (750 shares, 0.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00024109 / 0.00033121 / 0.00040884 (78161 shares, 25.89 BTC)
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
mod6: ascii_field: so yah, now that the code is pretty much complete, I'll see if I can get rid of getopt::long and elegantly implement the options handling on my own.
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, ok - this works just fine now, seems even more clean than getopt::long.
mod6: sweet.
punkman: http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << love the winter scooter https://habrastorage.org/files/cb0/236/32e/cb023632e8c64a66b45c2c1ae5e86ca3.jpeg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv6rOE )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FSwm8n )
punkman: ascii_field: my only real quibble with the preview of this (or was it punkman's ??) 'v' shown a while back, is that it used interactive questions to user << yeah it can export the patch sequence and you can then press without interaction
punkman: another possibility is that it'd let you choose multiple heads and then it'd lookup all ascendants of chosen heads and press with those
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/0Y75K2G.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Okb7Pc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049403 = 4.9897 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00049311 = 9.8622 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 246.99, vol: 27730.59016906 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 242.739, vol: 10097.16641 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 247.58, vol: 16982.7753674 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 251.382703, vol: 21700.21620000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 245.88, vol: 79.87407055 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 247.94, vol: 126.26585765 | Volume-weighted last average: 247.804040843
cazalla: does anyone know what this is? finding many of them on the surface of the garden most mornings, thought i was going crazy at first as i removed a couple but they are popping up everywhere http://i.imgur.com/U5SSbtU.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc4hP9 )
BingoBoingo: Any nearby trees?
cazalla: many
cazalla: finding it on top of potted plants too
BingoBoingo: Any of them have shit looking vaguely like that growing on them?
cazalla: not on the trees or plants, just the soil
cazalla: those little brown balls are dry and when broken up seem to spread in the air like a dandelion
BingoBoingo: Gotta be some sort of flower/seed
BingoBoingo: But since australia prolly crazy poisonous
BingoBoingo: !up artifexd
BingoBoingo: In other news https://archive.is/JeaA0
assbot: Agility - Pembroke Welsh Corgi Puppies-Celestial Star Corgis ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc5w0T )
BingoBoingo: https://dogsofsf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_23711.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc5MNb )
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mike_c the discrepancy is that of the +/- sign. Strangely, just since last night, the sign indicated in the 'direct' row changed from (-) to () [aka (+)], but the graph line is still red instead of green, as seen here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/btcalpha-sign-silliness.png.
assbot: Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc6c6g )
gribble: Error: "aka" is not a valid command.
pete_dushenski: also, i know that you can rate in private. sheesh u guise.
pete_dushenski: gribble no le gusta square brackets ?
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mike_c the discrepancy is that of the +/- sign. Strangely, just since last night, the sign indicated in the 'direct' row changed from (-) to () (aka (+)), but the graph line is still red instead of green, as seen here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/btcalpha-sign-silliness.png.
assbot: Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc6c6g )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: hm. guess so. til.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00049549 = 6.8873 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;grammar gribble has a one all its own
gribble: Error: "grammar" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: !up wpalczynski
BingoBoingo: !up SirJacket
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292453 << and here i was imaging mp shmoozing with local intelligencia that he'd somehow attracted with a giant magnet from clear across the country, having his girls pour bubbly while the conversation drifted from how one tests for ~actual genuine bohemian glass~ to the best surgeon's stitch for a knife wound in the back to the best source for local huevos to ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 00:23:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292365 << lol. i have yet to meet an argentinian that would be qualified to finish highschool. fortunately, online's a thing.
pete_dushenski: goodness only knows !
pete_dushenski: mpoe up 25% overnight. snazzy. hope a few of you caught a piece of the sale ;)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293010 << at least until pr pete shows up. then the lay-low-party's over. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 19:52:02; mircea_popescu: anyway. the advantage of anon & disappeared as opposed to "going to every conference that serves pasta" is that you don't have to face the "i fucking expected better of you" reproach.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i still think there are thinking folks hidden deep in b-a. ~somebody~ is buying that cnc machinery. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I believe in PR pete
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293061 << been reading more about gaming marketing. stumbled across popcap games, which reminded me that once upon a time, more than a half-decade ago, i actually played an iOS game for a stretch : plants vs. zombies (tower defense game) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 20:27:24; mircea_popescu: somehow. dunno how. but gamers and strippers is the winner combo.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54508 @ 0.00049346 = 26.8975 BTC [-]
cazalla: pete_dushenski, that became an ios game at the tail end of its lifetime ☟︎
pete_dushenski: aha. didn't know that.
pete_dushenski: oh, i guess i also played 'words with friends' but that's really just scrabble, not much of a 'computer game'