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bloctoc: nubbins I'm saying the important things haven't changed since back then.
nubbins`: wait, "back then"?
BingoBoingo: bloctoc: I thought circulating Doge was in the Billions, either tens or hundreds of
mike_c: nobody would have been able to play :)
bloctoc: I think 100 million is all the doge
bloctoc: there was a cap of 21 million btc back then
mike_c: that is still impossible. that would have been, what, ALL the btc?
nubbins`: things were different back then
mike_c: yours has nicer fonts though.
moiety: ah i'm too slow mike_c XD
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate asciilifeform 4 Realized I've been using his writings longer than I remembered
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I'm not sure, but I think I just changed the text
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nubbins`: but i don't trust you D:
nubbins`: i'll never give them money now
BingoBoingo: bloctoc: yeah, they are writing out their possibility of being in my WoT with the inane engineering of their paywall
bloctoc: was that paywall too?
bloctoc: A number of Bitcoin enthusiasts have been drawn to trading in shares of virtual currency companies, or other financial instruments such as Bitcoin derivatives, traded in Bitcoin on unregulated websites. MPex, the Romanian exchange where SatoshiDice used to trade, currently lists four stocks, one fund and five derivatives for trading.
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bloctoc: that may change. FT didn't mention the price or say btc is tulip, ponzi, scam. They're usually pretty abusive.
BingoBoingo: bloctoc: Not can't afford. Can't conscience sending them money.
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nubbins`: mp tells the sec to get stuffed, they shrug and then do exactly that
bloctoc: Financial Times has a paragraph today on mpex, alongside the SEC story on Erik Vorhees.
BingoBoingo remembers the project as "present what three vendors have in the way of tools for advancing technology education"
nubbins`: well, you're one upvote closer to the front page
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: You're welcome. I mean the summaries suck when the ignore the SEC's endorsement of MPEx in the actual filing.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: i actually had wondered why $15k plus damages -- didn't realize until you pointed out that they didn't touch s.dice
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BingoBoingo: This was a crowd of the sort where "technology"=="social media"
moiety: you get modern usb ones :o i think the older ones look nicer though.definitely one for the collection
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, the VM's name was one of the library school classes, so maybe I did the loosening during a presentation in a technology class.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: loosened the anus's of the various Apple Occultists << that might've been 'non-apple's mistake'
asciilifeform: moiety: it's rare enough that there is no ready source for it
BingoBoingo: Digging through archives I found hypercard setup VM exactly as asciilifeform described
BingoBoingo realized this week he had indeed run into Loper well before -assets
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I remember that time quite a while back when, maybe it was accident on your part, but you loosened the anus's of the various Apple Occultists with your hypercard post.
moiety: BingoBoingo: not really, I don't think thailand for a fortnight, hopping from aircon to aircon counts lol
asciilifeform: or the myriad 'tame' seekoority blogs, which studiously avoid mention of nsa, etc.
asciilifeform: think back to the purpose of the phoundation.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: there's most certainly benefit derived from twitter and west nile isn't the half of it
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Well, I'm gifting you that Canadian modesty.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It isn't that there is benefit derived from it. It is that when we can beat the Coindesks to the aggregators, it injures them in ways only they can rationalize.
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: lol seem? i'm happy to help :)
asciilifeform: taking joy in having 'strong social media presence' would be rather like rejoicing in living next to a swamp, to have 'strong mosquito presence'
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: You seem to have the stronger social media presence
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Thanks. Got to beat Coindesk to the aggragators
asciilifeform: at some point i'll get around to selling the actual microwriter
asciilifeform: moiety: the emulator is a very ragged toy. the actual gadget works considerably better.
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Help spread the love http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3602771
asciilifeform: i'd assume that a 'mule' gets an (unarmed) 'helper,' who ensures that he can't cough up the payload ahead of schedule.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Assuming they don't want library books... Probably going to get drafted as a drug mule.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in the textbook 'rectothermal cryptoanalysis' of '90s russia, the purpose of the soldering iron was typically to help the 'patient'... 'remember' not only the locations of hidden goodies, but also places where he might yet be able to borrow/steal.
moiety: here, booze sweat is just a beer jacket: keeps you warm but it's not warm enough to sweat
BingoBoingo: I'd suck if they sent me back to 'Murica full of cocaine baloons
moiety: asciilifeform: there's more music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAP0h9Yl_hc // also, I have been playing with the microwriter emulator :D
asciilifeform: as described in an old book, 'how to collect illegal debts' (actual title)
asciilifeform: however, the reason why it is customary to sit a captured wretch on an anthill, or the like, without first inquiring about his assets, is that in such a situation the definition of 'assets' expands to everything the victim could potentially beg/borrow/steal ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll have to manage to keep a thick stench of cigarettes and booze sweat through the Darien.
asciilifeform: my organs aren't the sort to fetch top dollar << the 'i own just the shirt on my back' defense worked pretty well historically. if the enemy finds it convincing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There was this Simpsons episode back in the day where it was revealed the elderly hero had the gift of immortality to the sheer number of terminal diseases he had forming a sort of homeostasis sustaining him.
asciilifeform: deterrence weapon naturally doesn't make you immortal - the best possible use of it is to cool the enthusiasm of folks who'd like to hasten the inevitable.
BingoBoingo: I'm also rather sure my organs aren't the sort to fetch top dollar
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think at that point you have to play the Hannibal card and try purchasing organs yourself.
jurov: or slipping up home in the bathroom
asciilifeform: think of how funny it'd be, setting up elaborate dead man switch, then captured by a fellow who just wants to sell your organs.
jurov: "okay, we'll use your corpse to extort cia"
jurov: i'm not sure they'll understand fine points of such complicated strategy as "i die, money goes to cia"
BingoBoingo: jurov: Not impossible that I am.
jurov: BingoBoingo you're preparing for the PARC or whatever colombia revolutionary movement encounter?
asciilifeform automatically recalls an ancient sf story about a very unlucky immortal fellow, who goes from dungeon to dungeon, ending up at torquemada's, the gestapo, on and on...
punkman: asciilifeform: you mean like this? http://www.deadmansswitch.net/
BingoBoingo: There's also the possiblity of multiple inquistors over time.
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BingoBoingo: You die, coins go to party inquisitor finds despicable. Simply hope the CIA isn't a frenemy of theirs and wants to fund them.
asciilifeform: [insert obligatory barb at the french here]
jurov: turnig yourself in preventively to the right party
asciilifeform: the 'only winning move,' of course, is 'not to play' - reducing your chances of ending up in that position in the first place, through convincing deterrent (or quick legs!)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Reasonable option seems to be dead man switch sends the coins to Mugabe
asciilifeform: is it to persuade him to turn you loose? to transfer your coin to your fellow partizans asap, because you are certain to perish anyway? some other goal?
asciilifeform: i'll point out that it helps to have a clear picture of what your objective will be once you're hanging upside-down in torquemada's workshop.
moiety: BingoBoingo: moiety: You have to remember you have blog too nao. << it's not mine though, I might start one, i'm seeing more things all the time i'd like to collate together
asciilifeform: [insert standard discussion of the game theory of nuclear war by schelling & friends here.]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Even if that isn't what's actually done, that may be the best thing to have people believe is being done.
asciilifeform: (if you actually want to do this: have multiple allies, shamir-split a key, then set 'dead man switch' that broadcasts the magic tx if you fail to reset it for x days, etc)
asciilifeform: easier said than done, though.
asciilifeform: actually, one possible technological countermeasure is: to carry around some gizmo that will transmit a transaction moving your coin to a trusted confederate, when the pin is pulled.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Tooth must be dangerously fragile though, so one can have a standoff end with a swift movement of the tongue.
asciilifeform: if herr torquemada is working on you, your wallet is lost, regardless of what kind (only real countermeasure is cyanide tooth or the like.)
BingoBoingo: And then there's also the problem of "place can have problems too"
asciilifeform: a successfully 'mined' brainwallet is... a failed iq test.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Definitely in terms of "wallet mining"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me like the physical hiding place approach suffers from the same problems as 'brainwallet.'
BingoBoingo: New risks of loss are introduced, but... The scenario in which it would be useful is different as well.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the typical rectothermal session involves separation from one's worldly goods