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decimation: if usg doesn't have the will to do that, they have no business there
decimation: well, to be straight, usg needs to go back to the WWII defeated Germany/Japan playbook
decimation: plus because of the idiotic 'de-baathification' policy of usg, the most competent part of the iraqi army has already joined isis
undata: one can't assign one narrative to a pile as big as the USG
decimation: I would humbly suggest that maybe usg "failed to prepare" because they assumed that once they set the transgendered free from their oppression a new golden age would dawn
decimation: ben_vulpes: working for usg as a contractor is a soul sucking experience
decimation: ah, of course. there's no way usg is liable for the actions of someone they hired
decimation: usg simultaneously: 1) is unable to responsibly handle even minimal tasks like "keep employee details confidential" while 2.) demands others follow its crazy interpretations of its crazy laws
decimation: so, usg contractor
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so you're of the opinions that a) it isn't worth my time to network with people in other territories and b) usg is going to collapse?
asciilifeform: from usg's point of view
decimation: usg vs. $33,000 for a cop-boat
adlai: fluffypony: hate leads to the usg side of the force. just play, have fun, go home, hope you don't get mugged on the way.
danielpbarron: "this transaction is spam because it isn't associated with a USG approved ID and taxed accordingly"
asciilifeform: sorta like what a more clever usg would have offered.
mircea_popescu: his case is unexceptional. obama couldn't argue why the usg should even exist either.
asciilifeform: i'll wait for usg nuremberg.
decimation: BingoBoingo: and of course the farmers are paid by usg to farm or not
thestringpuller: As yes, I suppose the USG is pretty much the mafia.
decimation: you will find generally at least 3 layers of usg will tell you what you can do on 'your' land
mircea_popescu: no such thing exists. tor is and was a usg hole long before pando sort-of read it in trilema. etc.
asciilifeform: i.e. the full force of usg.
asciilifeform: mats: it was a standard 'colour revolution' staged - unsuccessfully - by usg
decimation: whether the whole thing is a honeypot is debatable, but it clearly is supported by some parts of usg
decimation: if usg is the spiritual child of the nazi regime, why are they friendly with the invasion of the third world masses?
cazalla: so basically, his wife fucked him, mtgox fucked him and then big daddy USG came and fucked him one last time for good measure
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? << the early modern period had ample supply of this particular type. literally, idle.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing a megacorp?) rich still exist. they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing. << The conversion of cocaine from productivity aide to party favor has probably been one of the msot damaging transitions of this last hundred years
asciilifeform: usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing a megacorp?) rich still exist. they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg annihilated science to an extent no one ever, i suspect, thought of as possible. << lol not so. again the chinese lead. they burned the books 2x.
decimation: usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich
decimation: usg also stole the "having stolen science"
asciilifeform: usg annihilated science to an extent no one ever, i suspect, thought of as possible.
decimation: yes, usg 'sat' on this stool too
asciilifeform: once you clear away the usg grantsmanship, what mr. mold called 'scientocracy', you realize that actual science mostly 100% stopped around 1960.
asciilifeform: ^ grantsmanship, usg desinfo.
decimation: certainly most of their sales are to usg's layer 2
asciilifeform: i generally tag all of the parties responsible for this state of affairs as agents of usg, whether they would think of themselves as such or not.
asciilifeform: as in, usg can and will perish, but the widgets spoken of here will not magically appear.
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced this is a usg-dependent phenomenon
decimation: as long as usg sits on the stool it will remain that way
decimation: asciilifeform: "US Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act...' << obey or gasenwagen!" << USG generally has no problem giving commands to 'technical people' in its Vader Voice
decimation: ben_vulpes: yeah usg runs the tenement business now, mostly funded by its credit
asciilifeform: with a gigantic, mainly usg-operated apparatus to keep 'paying for software' as a going concern even.
asciilifeform: it all depends, also, on whether you see usa as just a normal country, or - a fundamentally criminal enterprise, whose enemies - any and all of them - are really friends of mankind by virtue of being it's enemies, and are in fact defending themselves from usg colonial rape.
undata: hm, as part of current incarnation of USG?
mats: they speak about a hundred english words between them, so i doubt they've been bought by USG.
asciilifeform: - or rather, a minimum of what to expect. the main purpose of the report appears to be usg bashing itself for hiring incompetent torturers on 'favourite son' contracts. implication is, 'we need to recruit real pros' - and every reason to expect that it will be tried, at the very least. out with the amateur finger-choppers, in with the transcranial pain centre stimulators and 'fMRI' gizmos, etc.
asciilifeform: ^ document of questionable veracity, prepared by known professional liars, but good source on what to expect when you end up in the tender care of usg.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what is the skepter of lizard hitler worth? the 300mn is simply the figure usg saw fit to write into the work of fiction
fluffypony: tell the regulators that the USG owns CLAMs by virtue of them having a bunch of BTC in May?
decimation: I think usg should go back to just raising money from trade tariffs
decimation: this is why it is annoying that usg taxes 'income'
decimation: apparently 'because' usg released data that indicated that some wages kinda went up, and some people might have been hired
asciilifeform: http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/89801/DOC_0000500644.pdf << usg gloats (internally) at great length and detail re: soviet computer industry. circa 1989.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Tase is part of why the UNHCR is shitting on USG atm
decimation: asciilifeform: one wonders how much longer usg can afford choppermeisters when drones are obviously better and cheaper
decimation: I guess usg is tacitly admitting it had no case and is frightened of an appeal
mats_cd03: anyway, like mp says, something something usg catching a falling knife twice
decimation: this is literally the bread-and-butter of the usg regime
decimation: here's the exact usg 'regulation' http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/FCC/Part-15/fcc-part-15-radio-frequency-devices-15p203.htm << "An intentional radiator shall be designed to ensure that no antenna other than that furnished by the responsible party shall be used with the device. The use of a permanently attached antenna or of an antenna
decimation: well, I'm certain that some organ of usg would claim victory under such conditions
decimation: there are many such capitulations to reality involved with usg 'regulation'
decimation: it would be nearly unbelievable if usg weren't involved
decimation: but it 'satisfies' usg requirements to make it 'difficult'
decimation: now the situation is reversed, and citizens must ask police to wield guns. This confusion is at the root of much of what is wrong with usg.
asciilifeform: i propose now a new and improved tax for usg: the -shitlicense-.
decimation: yeah as far as I know, except for extremely expensive bezzlar rockets usg owns, there is very little that can be done to intercept ballistic missile once it is past its initial acceleration phase
decimation: note that no one is actually employed plowing anymore, except by usg, and those plows are automated machines
decimation: such a grand strategy usg undertook, to import all of its enemies worldwide and make them citizens so we could all love them with socialism
decimation: asciilifeform: us chechens probably aren't a fan of usg either
decimation: BingoBoingo: the fear being that the Bosnians didn't get the memo that they supposed to do whatever usg or the local thugs demand?
decimation: if the 'oath keepers' demostrate that peace can be kept without swat/usg/fed/bureaucracy, 'people' might get the wrong idea
asciilifeform: presently it's a useful propaganda tool - usg picks pliant juries reliably, gives extra spray paint coating of 'legitimacy' to everything the courts do.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> difficulty drops << expect others, as usg torches miner farm after farm. << USG dealing with CHina and Russia, won't seize but torch. Owner torches.
asciilifeform: difficulty drops << expect others, as usg torches miner farm after farm.
decimation: maybe usg pays him 20
decimation: why would usg care if you were the intended recipient or a random victim?
decimation: who knows if this guy is legit, but if what he is wrote is true, USG apparently views a group of actual people acting of their own free will to be a much greater threat than rampaging rivers of meat
mircea_popescu: i think that's an artefact of approach. in this sense, my pieces loling at usg feminists are properly "Feminist studies"
decimation: and asciilifeform is right, the usg folks who 'compute' have no problem running poettering shit if it 'gets the job done'
adlai: after reading a bit more about the scamosphere, in my mind, "usg" now gets pronounced "usagi"
kakobrekla: nsa check, bitcoin foundation check, ... whats next, usg?
mircea_popescu: the results of that market becoming "usgized", which is to say, they stopped selling to the general public.
mircea_popescu: generally, idiots revel in offering an idiotarian version of mainstream concepts. like, the usg right ? ALSO OFFERS INSURANCE.
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
decimation: actually I was thinking while gasing up my car today... if you add up the fact that usg is funded to a big degree by printed dollars, and that now opec has decided to flood the market with oil to kill off drilling in north america, you realize that you have 'oil printing' vs. 'dollar printing'
asciilifeform: 'oath keepers' << if it isn't a honeypot, it (from usg's perspective) ought to be.
decimation: well, the aging hippies who run usg like to see a few protest-arrests on a resume
decimation: yeah, that's their exact problem, if they were to take any document-able action it would be counted as treason and usg would slam down
mircea_popescu: like the stuff discussed above re usg agency redhat, fuycking up linux. EXACTLY the stiuation of the giant ruining a chair. ☟︎☟︎
decimation: In my opinion, usg's crimes are not 'active' in the sense that they scheme with redhat for evil - usg's crime is that if failed to use the resources and human talent at its disposal to advance the art of computing at all
mircea_popescu: jurov: this is the undoing of C.. due to its memory unsafety they must decide to either bloat the kernel or suffer the overhead <<< out of the 10`000 billion lines of commentary written on the "usg is making up money and giving it to redhat to implement its policies ; whereby control economy is now called "do-ocracy" topic the past year or so, yours is the first one to actually be fucking sensible.
mircea_popescu: decimation the usg bois are getting butchered.
decimation: mats_cd03: unfortunately it seems like the 'secret police' is often trotted as a solution to many of usg's problems
mats_cd03: 02:48:14asciilifeform:usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << yep, i can confirm this second hand -- i know a few L.A. guardsmen that engaged in firefights with looters
decimation: Translation: in exchange for political support, manipulation of the masses, etc, we expect to be paid in usg-authorized indentured servants
adlai: usg buys S.MPOE to hedge against bond failure
ben_vulpes: who knew the usg'd bought so much MPOE :p
mircea_popescu: so ? isn't this how the usg works already ?