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mats_cd03: anyone keeping a running count of known USG coins?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me clear teh usg-debian believes it got the votes
decimation: well, considering usg employs 4 million people, I suspect there is at least one of each http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/historical-tables/total-government-employment-since-1962/
decimation: mircea_popescu: the simplest answer is probably because usg is full of hartmans and gmaxwells
mircea_popescu: im completely unclear as to why the fuck usg wants the "one computer system" so badly anyway.
mircea_popescu: decimation kerberos was developed by mit in the 80s. a gutted export version was created. as the usg was going to (again) change its export restriction in 2000,
mircea_popescu: perhaps an instructive case study as to how usg protocol confiscation works in the field.
decimation: I don't think any future historian will fail to notice the parallels between this and usg's way of doing business
thestringpuller: fdr's usg, but a lot more bankrupt.
decimation: this is one reason why usg is still fdr's usg (that and the fact that they and their friends razed the world in wwii)
decimation: asciilifeform: all powers to say things are reserved to the top tier of usg
decimation: asciilifeform: if 'lizard hitler' is a physical entity, he's probably not working for usg
mircea_popescu: and nobody hates it, either. the usg is widely despised, and in some quarters reviled.
asciilifeform: usg is an 'oderint, dum metuant' kinda thing.
decimation: as a gradually larger portion of the 'sane class' in the us begins to perceive usg as more of an enemy than a friend, I suspect the quality of 'chicken' will degrade further.
decimation: I'm not really sure usg even knows how to 'supply'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so it would follow that usg has a model recipe to follow.
asciilifeform: 'confidential' is the lowest level of classification in usg.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i can imagine only with great difficulty that a usg cryptologist of any actual stature (that is, creator of, or even privy to, a 'crown jewel') would be permitted to make public so much as a newspaper ad for a dog walker, much less a document pertaining to his profession.
decimation: from the senior usg Standartenführer's point of view, the polygraph is an ideal device to filter the workforce into compliant sheep and stone cold thugs
decimation: from the senior usg 'stendartendfurher's
decimation: mircea_popescu: maybe if they are short polygraphers usg asks some local scientologists to sub in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is a standard usg 'lie detector.' << the funny thing is, i dunno if the scientologists copied the ohmmeter after the usg "lie detector", or vice-versa, the fbi is tring to find yout tethans
asciilifeform: if you come across one, know that usg mandates disk sanitation pre-surplus, but no such law is enforced on contractors...
decimation: I know that there are many scavengers who survive on reselling usg surplus
decimation: imagine the mind of the 'interviewee': surely usg wouldn't spend bezzlars on those fine knobs if this wasn't serious business
decimation: asciilifeform: you could probably get grant money from usg if you were a scamademic
asciilifeform: this is a standard usg 'lie detector.'
decimation: apparently usg agents are zealously evangelizing their 'secret' polygraph faith around the world
decimation: asciilifeform: it would be more honest if usg made its agents walk on coals and swear secret loyalty to the civil service - it would be much more honest and straighforward
decimation: so an actual usg spycatcher actually caught found that the polygraph actually hindered his investigation
decimation: so basically they are going to try to convict this guy for training people pretending to be people who take usg's pseudoscience seriously
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's right. USG pseudo-secrecy agency used to fuck up idiots stupid enough to trust it now claims "it was bitcoin"
pete_dushenski: that usg is less threatening by the day i tell you
asciilifeform: only to victims of usg cranial reformatting.
asciilifeform: undata: except when usg can be caught with pants down.
asciilifeform: but not the organs of usg, nor of finance.
asciilifeform: not clear that these folks have an actual take on the subject. parroting usg religion - yes.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the usg seems moreover its prey than anything.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> well the only remarkable thing is that, with the profusion of winblows users, coins are not yet wandering off into usg wallets en masse. <<< reddit is not, contrary to what it tells itself, relevant to bitcoin
asciilifeform: well the only remarkable thing is that, with the profusion of winblows users, coins are not yet wandering off into usg wallets en masse.
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 02:55:38; asciilifeform: 'swamp donkey' << lol! apparently a usg version of 'cryptolocker'
assbot: 1 results for 'cryptolocker usg' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cryptolocker+usg
Adlai: !s cryptolocker usg
mircea_popescu: it's the one card out that could save teh current usg / societal structure.
asciilifeform: incidentally, this document is a fine example of the kind of stereotypically-bureaucratic style of writing usg runs on.
decimation: mircea_popescu: there are genuine people with genuine skills who spend their entire lives attempting to make usg better
mircea_popescu: but in general : it is good that any one person steals any one sum from the usg.
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/us/cuts-in-military-mean-job-losses-for-career-staff.html?_r=0 << usg is broke, decides to 'fire' army officers rather than cut back food stamps
asciilifeform: they get those from usg.
asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
thestringpuller: all while they are being raped with USG cock in their mouth
decimation: asciilifeform: I think you might be unimpressed with the reality of usg rpvs: http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2013/May/Pages/PentagonEyesDealsWithSatelliteIndustryToFillDemandforDroneCommunications.aspx
mircea_popescu: maybe it's scaling with the usg *gasp*
ben_vulpes: clearly wagering on usg winning this round
mircea_popescu: but let it be clear that if we get that far i will paying for abducted and gangraped usg politico daughters, and putting the videos online.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this entire usg strat is that bitcoin never was and likely never will be for the retards.
mircea_popescu: jurov: not openssh but openssL. as it is under BSD, they're free to do whatever wit it. << yeah openssl. not a question of under bsd or not, idea was more like : the proof that USG.HB was a thing, that was then implemented as openssl.HB is the fact that looky, a Win.HB apparently exists(ed). like, if you find a goat on a field you may think you've both discovered and invented the goat. but if you then later find anothe
asciilifeform: microshit is the ultimate execution of 'plausibly deniable' usg mandate.
mircea_popescu: either they stole openssh code (unlikely) or the thing was actually usg-mandated (which in some interpretations is one step above what we already knew, ie sponsored)
mats_cd03: thank usg taxpayers for latest advances in cn, ru aircraft design
decimation: this is generally standard usg management practice as far as I can tell
decimation: the mind boggles at all the similar stories that are stuffed in some usg filing cabinet
decimation: http://spacenews.com/article/military-space/42481us-missile-defense-agency-intercepts-three-targets-in-%E2%80%9Craid%E2%80%9D-test << usg wants to physically demonstrate ascii's anti-missiie theory
decimation: the lefties then interview young men who gave their youth to usg to 'man missiles' http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/air-force-missile-wing-minuteman-iii-nuclear-weapons-burnout
decimation: http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2014-11/001538.html << herr Walker reviews a book which describes the pitiful state of usg's land-based icbms
mircea_popescu: "o no, we will just work with the usg, help them track bitcoiner's shippments. nothing bad could ever happen!"
decimation: lol http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/07/codecademy-reskillusa/ << recycle jobless 'workers' to skilled web developers in three months, please please usg you pay?
bounce: ``Andrew Lewman, executive director of the Tor Project, which runs the service, said in an e-mail that it does not condone its use for illegal purposes and that it was unclear how authorities discovered the operators of the illicit sites.'' -- yet even the usg promotes its use to explicitly break the law in other countries. funny how that works.
decimation: usg wanting to maintain the last little vestige of us ic-printing is a different thing than usg deciding electronics
BingoBoingo: <decimation> if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china? << US never surrendered all of its foundries. IBM sale is getting a National Security review for a reason
decimation: if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china?
decimation: eh, I don't buy the omnipresent usg thesis
mircea_popescu: saifedean so basically, would you say the usg is using grant money to coerce lies being published as "science" and to force people who won't do it leave academia ?
saifedean: well taleb was the reason i went heretical, or the gateway drug at least, i met him and became friend and then went heretic... he liked the heretic version and was happy to be on my committee as the external examiner... but the columbia folks didn't like it so i had to rewrite it and do my Hail USG's, and he still sat onmy committee for that one and helped me defend it from their fangs
asciilifeform: let's try that again. what's usg's plan for criminal 'elements'? not extermination, in any sense. but to keep the relationship symbiotic rather than predatorial.
asciilifeform: the two purposes of parallel construction are the obvious one (disguise and preserve pwnage capability) but also to sow distrust and spymania among the opponents of usg.
bounce: AIUI it was usg HUMINT that was laughingly poor
mircea_popescu: the usg sigint capacity is really very poor, in spite of large expenditure and publicity
mircea_popescu: sell some pills while keeping track of exactly all the ways the usg gets the data, actually, then leak that.
asciilifeform: e.g., 'sr2 had a usg mole.' 'no we didn't' 'ah, but mr envelope-licker was our mole' 'no he wasn't, we were best chums' 'he just swore in court that he was mole.' 'but he did it to get charges dropped against self' 'tough'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly. which is the angle that i stand behind here. usg is using the tor as it was designed to be used, meanwhile lies about how they got the data, and the people accused are too fucking stupid for that not to stick.
mircea_popescu: this is the day, when a pretend-company cites as source of its own fucking moves the official usg news outlet.
decimation: yeah, if anything usg agents will do what the movies, newspapers, and tv tells them they should
decimation: I'm dubious that there is much real coordination of these things, more just random entropy in various usg departments
decimation: asciilifeform: actually this is a good point. usg is ineffective at enforcing whatever 'immigration policy' it creates anyway, that's a sideshow
decimation: heh I think usg still pays for highly-enriched uranium from soviet bombs
decimation: look, if usg got out of the money manipulation game, hard money came back, and folks had to get by on their own achievements, immigration wouldn't be an issue
asciilifeform: 'USG. (Bitstamp and Coinbase)' << might wanna fix
asciilifeform: saying merely that usg loves 'crank bait'
kakobrekla: well buttstamp gives dox to usg
decimation: so, usg & friends might arrest you if you carry a stick
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that particular piece was written while waiting for a locked-up msword turd on a usg slavemachine, also running mandatory usg antivirus, which wedged the disk
thestringpuller: on a scale of 0 to usg how turdified is it?
TheNewDeal: not as bad as the usg?
decimation: tyranny - usg fines a company for exporting that which is easily downloadable everywhere. anarchy - usg pretends it cannot investigate welfare fraud
asciilifeform: just as usg is worth mentioning.
asciilifeform: 'POTS' (voice telephone) service exists pretty much at the decree of usg, mainly for its own purposes