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decimation: but that's usg policy since at least before wwii
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this almost certainly requires a dead usg, or at the very least one which is in no condition to sinecure progressives.
asciilifeform does not blame usg for everything
mircea_popescu: does cardano not exist on shelf because usg ?
asciilifeform: not even entirely usg. none of the wealthy mega-army states really want inexpensive partizan-warfare aids on the shelf.
asciilifeform: it's a straight usg thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: head-worn displays are considered, by usg, to be key military tech (all existing manufacturers of serious - i.e. svga and above units - supply usg exclusively) ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally, the security implications of a good head-worn computer display suggest that no such thing will be permitted to exist while usg has any say on the subject.
asciilifeform: http://www.spiegel.de/media/media-35674.pdf << usg's gossipd.
decimation: not for any technical reason, but because of the assorted pile of usg policy & requirements that apply to 'common carrier' services like telephone
mircea_popescu: i give voice to all the whores, not to mention all sorts of known usg agents
decimation: in civil court usg has explicit immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States
decimation: in theory, usg has no legal immunity (from criminal courts), but in practice it clearly does
decimation: some elements of usg would claim otherwise
mircea_popescu: decimation: there's a deep hypocrisy here somewhere. apparently the usg entities who are involved with foreign surveillance couldn't possibly do their jobs if they were subject to 'regulation', but of course regular people trying to say, transact bitcoin, have no such reprieve << well, usg entities that deal in bitcoin do have such reprieve currently ?
decimation: well, there's an issue of policy here, which is "is a us person allowed to communicate in a manner outside the possibility of usg interception?"
decimation: there's a deep hypocrisy here somewhere. apparently the usg entities who are involved with foreign surveillance couldn't possibly do their jobs if they were subject to 'regulation', but of course regular people trying to say, transact bitcoin, have no such reprieve
decimation: apparently usg has decided to greatly limit (not completely stop) civil forfeiture at the federal level
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG? << it could become a new brand of tide.
thestringpuller: 22:13 <+asciilifeform> i have said before that an official usg altcoin is
asciilifeform: i can easily picture an 'atomic war' where every btc which usg has at some point begged, borrowed, stole, or can prevail upon a vassal to give up control of - will be placed on market in a 'last hurrah'
asciilifeform: i'm not seeing any serious evidence of 'long-term' thinking on usg's part.
danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG?
thestringpuller: ofc, but USG coin that is used to also do what? annoy us out of our money like some comcast nonsenese?
asciilifeform: i have said before that an official usg altcoin is inevitable.
mircea_popescu: i know for a fact the usg did not know what was in the leaks until their press agents told em
asciilifeform: vaguely credible evidence that usg puts to use ecc internally, but no suggestion of with what curves.
asciilifeform: it isn't simply an 'other language', it's a massive toolchain created and maintained by a usg satrap.
asciilifeform: and it was not necessary to work for usg per se to fall under it.
mircea_popescu: not like you're going to do anything whatsoever BECAUSE of the usg.
decimation: of course, esteemed professors in USG law explain how this is good: Ms. Lobel said. “But it’s a good result in that there has been much media attention to the illegality of such retention practices, real monetary consequences and promises to cease all such practices in the future.”"
asciilifeform: (who typically succumbs to the temptation of using hw-accelerates, e.g., aes? - folks setting up vpn or otherwise bridging nets with serious traffic. aka delicious targets for usg.)
mircea_popescu: the key to escaping from usg is not caring about usg issues ; the key to not caring about usg issues is escaping from usg.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right now it is elementary fear of usg that keeps the leaked docs scarce and largely unused
asciilifeform: lol, suck moar usg cock
mircea_popescu: the slowly creeping usg-isation of bitcoin has to be nipped in the bud.
decimation: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/interception-and-divulgence-radio-communications << usg provides a useful 'help' page
gabriel_laddel: Me: "so what do you think of MPEX"? He: "What they do is illegal!! You can't take money from investors in the united states without explicit approval of USG!"
asciilifeform: i suspect that he spun the whole thing as 'moral philosophy' because if he had readily admitted that gpl was merely a successful hack against usg's 'laws', he would have been killed.
asciilifeform: usg dept. of computing.
ben_vulpes: usg can mandate its serfs run .10 or w/e
asciilifeform: you'll know gotterdammerung isn't far when usg btc-fiat exchange handlers start lifting from the pots, in broad daylight, and leaving their 'patients' to take the blame.
decimation: but the little people in usg find that 'unfair'
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'disregard x years and you'll never see the difference' is sop on usg projects.
mircea_popescu: doubt they will. some pool ops might be clueless enough to try and hijack the network to please gavin/usg, but that's ok, they'll get shot later.
decimation: if anyone is interested in simulation, usg publishes a free software package to simulate shortwave paths: http://www.voacap.com/prediction.html
decimation: fiat, fiat business stock, fiat bonds, promises from usg to pay
decimation: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/01/02/1418761112 << lol usg 'research': "The number of principal investi- gators for R01s who are 36 y of age or youn- ger has declined from 18% in 1983 to 3% in 2010. Today, more than twice as many R01s are awarded to principal investigators who are over 65 y as are under 36 y, a reversal from only 15 y ago."
mircea_popescu: add all the usg-side businesses together, see what you get. lotta hope, lotta hype, no receipts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'brain activation' folks are simply a somewhat more 'photogenic' version of the rest of usg academia, where virtually every physical science 'result', almost without exception, concerns some spurious correlation of this and that
asciilifeform: very simple formula: the 'barbarians' are in fact employees of the swedish (french, british, american - each case) government, aka usg, in good standing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the interesting thing is that usg has not succeeded in entirely displacing the native, ethnic 'lotteries'
asciilifeform: yes, usg succeeded in setting up the situation where every luserplebe's browser will ring bells, flash lights, if a cert didn't come with a hitler signature
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this is because the browsers are usg projects.
asciilifeform: a somewhat younger, livelier usg had a multitude of copies produced, and used in utmost secrecy, almost immediately after the find.
mircea_popescu: artifexd you might discover it hurts you, much like the low level usg employee who thinks the fed helps him would soon discover his lot would be better without that bit.
asciilifeform: there is the added difficulty of everyone and anyone in usg-dom being 'a paedo' retroactively on the mere request of a preet.
asciilifeform: imho it is far from a sure thing that this will so much as add one drop of sweat to a usg inquisitor's work
asciilifeform: not even usg as such, needed for this. the crapware folks will readily latch on to anything like a solution to what ails them - which proposed apparatus is; and the antivirus folks will immediately proceed to piss out whatever fluids they can muster, against the problem
mircea_popescu: not what i've been hearing from teh chinese folks on the topic, but w/e, gavin's more than welcome to persevere in his usg-is-the-world delusions.
asciilifeform: on the contrary, synthetic chumpfracking fluid is a usg product.
kakobrekla: gaw is not usg powered
asciilifeform: synthetic chumps (btc stolen by usg organs) is pumped into eth
decimation: http://www.itworld.com/article/2864675/new-lie-detector-relies-on-fullbody-suit-for-better-accuracy.html << lol these guys want to sell gimp suits for hazing usg employees
davout: in other news bitcointalk is now requesting that moderators fill some usg paperwork for the purpose of paying taxes
mircea_popescu: just as an idle exercise, imagine how that article'd have sounded if the criminals were some usg agency, stealing the woman's drive and not giving it back.
ascii_modem: the audience can't do jack shit to bring sane silicon into being. but it can actively and maximally destructively piss on 'intellectual property' and related usg crown privilege.
decimation: adlai: you can see how it would be much more difficult for usg to actually coordinate which secrets are 'released' and which ones are 'secret'
adlai: my favorite nonsense was an internal usg email during the snowden leaks, advising employees not to read the leaked document on unclassified workstations lacking necessary clearance to view the doc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight' << quite. which is why it's so lulzy to watch.
mircea_popescu: decimation: well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents << everyone in bitcoin is and can.
ascii_modem: usg presently has no enemy armies, only recalcitrant muppets
ascii_modem: the whole robot war thing -only- 'works' for usg or similar vs unarmed or max iron age folks
mircea_popescu: usg, china, russia, korea, etc
ben_vulpes: usg seems to be going out of its way to avoid anything smart with drones.
ben_vulpes: usg?
mircea_popescu: the problem with the f35 is the usg.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how is it a win lol. << If USG accepts it can't have nice things it can try to still be kind of the dump
ascii_modem: the silent, tedious corrosion of everything even vaguely computerized, on account of winblows - that's a modern usg win.
mircea_popescu: decimation: one gets the picture that usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications << this is not as unlikely as itmay seem. at a time when caesar came up with the pgp of that time, most of the senate a) loled at the nonsense ; b) wondered which gods caesar was praying to to be that successful.
mircea_popescu: all the asshole "lefties" for pay that helped the usg "react to" snowden have made money out of it. the old system where a "random hero" was selected to be held up as a fetish for the masses, "explaining" their poverty and justifying their pointless struggle is giving way, out of sheer exhaustion of resources,
mircea_popescu: except the usg is not a version of the world, it's merely a version of graham & co's beliefs.
mircea_popescu: he succeeded as an easy money usg moocher, which is i suppose something he justifies to himself as "being an expert in a later version of the world"
mircea_popescu: how secure can one feel, as a mid range us bureaucrat, given these revelations ? the usg can not protect you, yo.
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2014 15:23:38; mircea_popescu: next step : Bitcoin regulates the USG.
decimation: yeah in retrospect the whole sony thing was a crass marketing ploy with usg cooperation
decimation: no, that's pretty much the glue that holds usg together (quashing folks before they pose a threat)
mircea_popescu: and it'd work just fine, too, if it weren't for btc. this construction where someone could be a secure billionaire and not part of the usg club simply wasn't being planned for.
mircea_popescu: basically the usg is trying (through its "vc" agency) to run the web exactly the way it's running the country : use the poor to scare the productive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'can't delete avahi-0.6.31p10 without deleting cups-libs-1.6.3p0 gtk+2-2.24.20p1 gvfs-1.16.3' << brain damage beyond belief <<< "can't delete usg without deleting roads and the sky above".
asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight'
BingoBoingo: Don't worry. China is baking up Loongson so that there will be another turdwarez platform when the USG can no longer prop up Arm.
decimation: well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents
asciilifeform: decimation: this means 'be the darling of the usg crown'
decimation: asciilifeform: re: illegal radios << yes, this is a route. unfortunately usg is good at finding such products and crushing their makers
adlai: although "hamas" refers to both a government and a loosely-knit military conglomerate, just like "usg" or "nato"
asciilifeform: or when there's a gap in the usg shortwave jammers
decimation: but as asciilifeform has pointed out, the bezzlars (usg) control the entire silicon process stack
decimation: they make & implement usg policy, and allow stooges to stand in front of the microphones to take the heat
asciilifeform: the actual nervous system of usg is not the muppets with the microphones