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adlai: and, uh, let's get better error msgs, so i don't waste your time, next time
ben_vulpes: it's be a pretty pricey project, i don't really expect anyone to fund it.
gabriel_laddel: dina_corman: I don't have the disk space to download all of them, but if you could get all the funtoo stage3 tarballs too, would be great.
asciilifeform: e.g., 'Pointer arithmetic. In the good old times, an int and a pointer used to have the same size. People happily used ints as array indices. Array indexing is just pointer arithmetic, and in some architectures (like x86), you can often perform the pointer arithmetic plus load in a single instruction. Then came 64-bit architectures. For reasons I don't really get (compatibility?), on x86-64 and other 64-bit architectures ints remaine
mircea_popescu: one node higher from that : i was unaware anyone involved actually had the subjective mechanism of indentity. it works like this "don't do that, only gypsies do that, we're not gypsies". that's identity. whereas who in c ever said anything of the kind ?
asciilifeform: for n00bz and perhaps also for mircea_popescu , i will add the note here, that lisp folk don't generally ~read~ the parens, they read the indentation. this requires proper tools, such that the possibility of encountering misindented crapola is ~= 0.
phf: hmm, fair question, but i don't remember, i can't remember if tab even indents to the right place, i'll check in a bit
asciilifeform: phf: i don't see how this is needed for fexprs
a111: Logged on 2016-01-23 22:21 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1383219 <<< i wouldn't buy a thing with "SawStop (tm)" and i certainly don't want to HAVE to.
phf: only issue with the regrind approach is clerical. it's easy to keep track of "this new thing that i don't have", much harder to keep all the "this old thing that i have is now new thing" updates
mircea_popescu: i don't think one can properly appreciate how broken "thought process" is in general population unless they do such. or try to teach. or try to tech support. or practice law. or so following.
whaack: fwiw if I connect to only your "trusted nodes" list I connect but don't get back any resposes from asktxn requests etc. (assuming "askfor tx xxxx 0" in debug.log means the request returned nothing)
trinque: ben_vulpes: I don't think it got in before other vpatches changed the antecedents
whaack: alright I'll get more ram on my machine then. that being said you don't imagine this would be a reason for it to stall for 24hrs on a single block?
adlai: ok, but i still don't understand the rest of that line.
phf: i don't think classic supports nesting (default does though)
ben_vulpes: i don't know what you mean by embedded replies
mircea_popescu: well, if you don't use windows, there's ~no minimum specs, i've had it run on ten year old laptops. if you do use windows it's unclear as of yet, some people have had problems but seems to be on random hardware
thestringpuller: or you stop so you don't fucking die, like when no light exist i.e. lightning storm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't require that len(h(x)) < len(x).
mircea_popescu: i don't. the point is to prove K-J continuity , not to retain sole control of J
mircea_popescu: t1 : i make rsa key K ; don't share it with anyone. i publish hash(salt+pubkey.K)
mircea_popescu: so which part of the nonsense is part of your accepted reconstruction ? i don't imagine sponeaneous margerinization of plant matter for a 150 to 200 m radius makes it in?
thestringpuller: then again I'm not a philosopher, so don't take my word for it
asciilifeform: i don't have a slave galley to manually filter spamolade.
mircea_popescu: i don't believe the "find a strong man" fantasy he discusses existed anywhere outside of say 1500 italy etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 18:31 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548167 << somebody claiming I don't understand that I've bought a CPU debugger?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform is the canonical "clojure suxx!" standard bearer but i don't think he has my contempt of familiarity
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-24#1548167 << somebody claiming I don't understand that I've bought a CPU debugger? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: so it was not yet done, and i don't expect to see it done any time soon.
mod6: I don't think that's it.
mircea_popescu: change is change, like when i tell my mother listen, i used to like you but now i don't like you anymore ; not like when i wake up one day and don't even know i had one, like some sort of cat or somesuch.
BingoBoingo: Remember when Buzzfat posted more than a thousand pictures of "white supremacist icon" Pepe in a single gallery? I don't but it dangled in the mines https://archive.is/0jQk2
shinohai: I mean I usually just don't voice them until they actually produce a key.
trinque: I don't see a problem with people coming to the forum to announce their existence as a person.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i still don't fully grasp why they gotta come here and not #eulora
asciilifeform: Framedragger: notice, you don't even need the external i/o pins
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and those will of course not have much bandwidth capacity. but i maintain that to usefully PoC the thing, you don't need much at all. jeebus, having a radio-based key server would be amazing already
Framedragger: i still don't understand why the hell you need them 100kW
Framedragger: btw regarding "there is no sane NIC out there" problem and appreciating the fact that designing a whole proper NIC may not be an efficient effort ("ip stack should be eventually abandoned", lots of work, economies of scale at work in semiconductor production, whatnot), i wonder why asciilifeform hasn't considered investing time not in seeking a sane nic, but rather designing / using a sane transport protocol via *radio* (i don't mean shi
phf: i don't know the current mirror, i was using librusec, until that too went to shit
phf: trinque: mechanics of padmasana doesn't put weight on knees. i don't know what that lady is doing (that picture is straight up cargo cult), but even in her caise majority of her weight is on the lower buttocks
thestringpuller: i guess i don't understand the obsession
asciilifeform: the ones which don't, ring the bell, and i look
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 18:10 phf: the person that i was a [big bank] vendor with is actually doing that right now. a trained apl-er and mathematician, having spent few years interacting with [big bank] decision makers now consults on a handshake basis for companies that need a problem solved, but don't care if it comes with a pretty windows gui
phf: but since i don't have to expose it to wild net, and rate of checks is low, i can just have a bottle file per task, just doing its own specific massaging
Framedragger: right. see trinque, you don't see "lazy" in that context as having any descriptive context (what shinohai's pots); i do. a simple disagreement regarding the use. but i of course have to agree with your general sentiment...
trinque: what it means is this limp dicked "I did a thing but don't judge me pls" that produced the mountain of filth in which we live
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160919/#655 << she was spot-on, actually. i don't think anyone who wasn't here can even grok what sort of copumpkin-esque imbeciles counted for miners back then. it's cleared immensely.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [18:25:12] <ben_vulpes> did some late night back-of-the envelope on script length and miminum transaction size and i don't recall it breaching u32
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "dad i wanna get married" "honeybunch, you'll get old and your tits will sag and it'll suck. don't get married, it's a dead end" << LOL
phf: ben_vulpes: i still think there's some misunderstanding. once you have a compact size reader, you don't automatically get "read N objects of compact size count"
ben_vulpes: did some late night back-of-the envelope on script length and miminum transaction size and i don't recall it breaching u32
ben_vulpes: i don't even think you can have max compact size anything in trb.
phf: oh, then i don't grok your question. "yes, it's exactly like any other hand-rolled variable length integer in c land"
phf: well, while asciilifeform's yak shaving, i don't think this is correct way to handle the type
asciilifeform: 'if i don't understand how foobar works, i can declare it irrelevant and never need to understand'
mircea_popescu: trinque his objection is to the notion of "learn" and "knowledge" involved in that statement though, you might've noticed. and i don't really see it's altogether weak.
trinque: doesn't bother me one bit, only demonstrated that "I don't know how to network these two machines" and got thunked to... learn that.
mircea_popescu: "dad i wanna get married" "honeybunch, you'll get old and your tits will sag and it'll suck. don't get married, it's a dead end"
asciilifeform: and i don't get any of these mysterious wtf's.
gabriel_laddel: I'm perfectly happy to use a lisp socket, but if I can't do it via netcat, I don't think it'll work via lisp
trinque: I don't see how shelling out is superior
adlai: out of curiosity, where would you recommend going, once i accumulate the means to do so on my own terms? you don't seem too pleased with your homeland or your current abode
mircea_popescu: but as i don't figure you much for the "bitch, you will clean my boots or wear a new kippah anchor point, right in your fucking forehead" type, i'd have expected you'd just left.
adlai: and... i don't think every single conflict situation warrants a declaration of war. sometimes you need to fight, but sometimes you need to regroup first.
mircea_popescu: i mean because "don't do this, don't use it there, don't do this way". in any game there are parts you could do in fucking xml. that you write those in lua, or lisp, or anything does not make the anytihng "fast enough for gaming", much like the 14yo doing the parts of "slut" that don't include fucking doesn't make the 14yo "old enough for sex"
BingoBoingo: yr: I don't know you well enough to PM, so now you have voice!
mircea_popescu: i don't trust an us educated psychiatrist anymore than i'd trust a shaman orthopedist.
framedr_ghetto: i'm on a guest network with no access to server. i don't know why scriba is acting up. shall be investigated tomorrow but not before
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:23 adlai: i don't think that an ~animal~ which avoids starvation, dehydration, ostracism, and greivous bodily harm, can be counted crazy
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:11 adlai: the more nuanced answer recognizes that i was hospitalized as a direct result of an argument, which would not have happened if i'd left the house with a sweater that morning. so... don't forget to bring a towel?
mircea_popescu: and i don't propose use c code whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: now, x86 i can already buy, which of tll, lelnel don't exist and what's the excuse.
mircea_popescu: well i don't see any c/linux/dos/etc in here ?
mircea_popescu: phf what i don't understand is this bizarre notion that c has some sort of priviledged relation with asm, which is and remains the only hardware language.
adlai: trinque: i don't think of this as mind-body duality at all. a better analogy would be the phase of some matter. if you cool it enough, it seems solid; zoom in and you see it's still moving, but not enough to break out of formation.
trinque: for a somalian, I don't know, maybe that's Tuesday
adlai: i respect alice's belief that her creator is dead, to the same degree that i'd respect somebody's belief in reincarnation, or resurrection, or transubstantiation. words have meaning, beliefs can be false, but you don't have to act on false beliefs. i'd count somebody who's physical actions are in touch with consensus reality as non-crazy, by the "sufficiently in touch with consensus reality to not die by
adlai: i'm actually saying that they don't.
adlai: i don't think that an ~animal~ which avoids starvation, dehydration, ostracism, and greivous bodily harm, can be counted crazy
adlai: the more nuanced answer recognizes that i was hospitalized as a direct result of an argument, which would not have happened if i'd left the house with a sweater that morning. so... don't forget to bring a towel?
trinque: I don't believe the "thereaputic" angle for a moment.
adlai: obviously i don't deeply believe that drugs can be ordered objectively by any parameter (other than therapeutic index, for ones that have known LD50 in humans), but my personal favorite "good drugs" ordering would have cannabis above nicotine and caffeine, and mescaline above alcohol
BingoBoingo: <adlai> incidentally, on a slightly related topic: a friend has taken me up on my (foolish, drunken) offer to help teach him programming. i'm tempted to start with a "sheet of paper + mccarthy" approach, since he's yet unspoiled by algol; has anybody tried teaching in this manner? << Don't skip to 12 without working the other steps. Only 13 can be skipped to.
mircea_popescu: s thin neck that did that. He was simply not created for this life. It's true that I stomped their dog to a pulp around the floor, but it's really cynical to accuse me of murdering the dog when in the immediate vicinity, it might be said, three human lives had been obliterated. The infant I don't count. Well, all right then, in all this (I can agree with you) it is possible to discern a degree of severity on my part. But to c
asciilifeform: '2016-08-31 19:52:31 stassats frankly, i don't believe in the web of trust, you can only know who uploaded
pete_dushenski: 'EVERYTHING MUST GO IN THE DISHWASHER AND THAT MUST BE FINE.' << chez moi i throw everything in the dishwasher, which i then run when full and empty thereafter, while the girl does this 'wash by hand as you go and air dry on the rack' thing for reasons i don't fully comprehend.
mircea_popescu: shinohai you know once you get half decent at the metagame you don't have to baby it. i spend about 10-20 minutes a day changing bot diapers is all.
ben_vulpes: the particularly annoying thing about this current house is that i don't see a clean way to install the garburator.
ben_vulpes: i don't know what you're looking at for those zeros
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think we did, no.
phf: indeed, and it's also very idiosyncratic, to the point where i don't think anyone but Fare can work on it. on a whim i switched my system to asdf 1.* (last release before peanut gallery took asdf over) and not surprisingly everything works, ~except~ when project explicitly relies on asdf3 functionality, which is exclusively test hooks, uiop and hardcoded "needs asdf>3" requirements
phf: i think asdf is evil, version 3 is doing some straight up systemd shit. for those who don't know asdf 3 comes with fare's own portability layer called uiop, which in a very systemd agressive and underhanded style is superseding existing utility libraries. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 01:21 mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 01:21 mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals.
mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals. ☟︎☟︎
phf: further obscurantism comes from people who don't see clearly, but in a markov chain thinking relay what they heard before "of course that's how it is, i heard it from joe, and it was tired then, what dogen is actually saying is this flowery shit i pulled out of my ass"
a111: Logged on 2015-04-18 02:49 trinque: Citizenfive | What I'm saying, if I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. << I used to think this; lately I consider it an autoimmune disorder caused by lifetime immersion in symbolic shit
trinque: I don't see any point for the whimsical obfuscation