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asciilifeform: phf: well yes, 'metal' cmucl would need own scheduler regardless.
asciilifeform: phf: did you ever expand on why your gadget crashed daily when it sat on top of cmucl ?
trinque: phf: the gentoo musl overlay has sbcl patches iirc. gotta forgo threads
asciilifeform: phf: would you say that cmucl is more suited for 'iron' incarnation? (i.e., can it be build without gcc?)
asciilifeform: phf: not afaik
asciilifeform: not afaik, but perhaps phf saw such a thing.
mircea_popescu: phf it's entirely unclear what ssl is supposed to provide. it might have been of marginal utility prior to their nsa merger, but these days it's utter waste of time. treat all freenode connections as plaintext.
asciilifeform: phf: fleanode's 'security' was a joke afaik always.
asciilifeform: in phf's/ben_vulpes's/trinque's chairs...
mircea_popescu: phf i imagine it's descriptive, the end goal is supposed to be some sort of world where nobody can possibly get one upside the head no matter what.
mircea_popescu: phf you seen the exterminating angel ?
deedbot: mircea_popescu may not !!down phf.
mircea_popescu: !!down phf
deedbot: phf voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: !!up phf
mircea_popescu: phf yeah, it's from last year. what HADNT come out until now is that the iranians got us naval cipher books.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 18:49 phf: actually funniest "charitable" pretense is some years ago kate michaels raising money for underprivileged kids so that they can play polo. every time i remember it i crack up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf is quite right, the place was astonishingly physically segregated
mircea_popescu: phf i was thinking, wtf, college for any other purpose than slut magnet ? where's he live.
mircea_popescu: phf it's interesting how un-alphabetic their approach is, also. "you will learn these three hieroglyphs ; and shame on mp for using longer words than 4 letters, it's not really writing when you do that!"
asciilifeform: phf: dog training for people, aha.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-14 18:26 phf: Will Mark Zuckerberg Be Our Next President? (vanityfair.com)
pete_dushenski: phf: lol gucci mane
a111: Logged on 2017-01-14 00:59 mircea_popescu: on trying to check out phf 's nice graph i discover btcbase.org/patches redirects, to btcbase.org/patches/nil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm, interesting. though no one ought to be surprised to not find a phf & co. for $randomshitlang
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tried to try out rust. he gets no bots, has to make his own irc server, there's no phf etc.
mircea_popescu: on trying to check out phf 's nice graph i discover btcbase.org/patches redirects, to btcbase.org/patches/nil ☟︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "weds 14:00 to 16:00, phf's lisp class". << this would be pretty cool actually. i'd attend if I could get the timing right...
ben_vulpes: you only need a phf to teach noobs if the noob is you
mircea_popescu: "weds 14:00 to 16:00, phf's lisp class".
mircea_popescu: phf if you feel like it, you can do a weekly lisp class by appointment, look in the log when there's usually holes and intersect with your schedule and there you go.
mircea_popescu: phf if usage goes wai up we'll figure something out.
asciilifeform: phf et al : i still don't get why not simply candi_lustt (+ 2 2)
candi_lustt: ("asciilifeform" "ben_vulpes" "bingoboingo" "danielpbarron" "davout" "diana_coman" "hanbot" "jurov" "mike_c" "mircea_popescu" "mod6" "phf" "trinque")
asciilifeform: are we talking of same d00d? because the phf i recall sleeps in a tent, in arizona desert, surrounded by 48 virgins
asciilifeform: i must've missed one hell of a thread. where, e.g., phf was 'delicate'..?
mircea_popescu: phf for instance, is shockingly delicate, specifically because he's more from russia than you. and the japanese folk, ESPECIALLY back in the days when misspeaking to samurai == beheading, were remarkably delicate also.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-02 01:12 phf: Nah, universally. A significant property of arrays shared across languages is that they give you some guarantees about access time, space utilization
a111: Logged on 2015-11-09 04:39 phf: which brings me to the point that i have folders for all but "make new hardware" item in that list of b-a scope in various states of disarray, and it would be great if there was some prioritization, like it was the case with eulora "oh we need this done, you do it".
mircea_popescu: digging through the logs to find a point of reference for " phf that actually goes back to a thread long time ago" i found http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-09#1320422 instead. how did the proposed solution work out for you phf ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf's logtron down??
mircea_popescu: phf to quote from a film i don't recall, "niente coveri, solo corpi di tinere donne"
davout: also phf ^
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-11#699 << logger fixd, preserves whitespace to better display phf's glorious hackery
davout: asciilifeform phf thanks! i'll look into it, gonna start with clhs until i get back to a country where amazon delivers
asciilifeform: phf: i'm not a raving fan of the x60 -- can barely stand looking at the tft lcd.
asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of the evidence was the computrace nonsense ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: phoenix's proprietary zlib thing.
asciilifeform: phf: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/4_1_15_stas.txt ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 02:39 phf: i once read grothendieck's récoltes et semailles, which is a kind of an autobiography
ben_vulpes: phf: aye, that function's still hanging around
mircea_popescu: phf my reasoning was, that he was having a meaningless dispute with ben_vulpes ; possibly understood it to be meaningless ; and possibly therefore attempted to go upnode. that the selection of upnode wasn't judicious can't be held against him specifically because no standing.
asciilifeform: phf, ben_vulpes : actually i did harbor a suspicion that it was... ben_vulpes's eliza!
mircea_popescu: phf wait, the free market thing made it obvious to you ? it's what made me up him.
mircea_popescu: phf my bad for the 2nd, i upped him through having merely parsed the log to a point where he somehow managed to sum > 0.
BingoBoingo: phf: My bad. I have a bad habit of playing with the food.
mircea_popescu: phf soz wut ?
Framedragger: phf: ah, incorrect match on b-a log link, should be " 22:05:13 kakobrekla: !down aquentson "
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: Humans are charming, aren't they?
asciilifeform: phf: quite
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:59 phf: Framedragger: it's always the same with you, "this online personality construct is great" "they do useful research" etc. until they publish "i don't believe in pgp" or really act in any way that you didn't expect. and then you don't have any recourse, because they are online personality constructs. how well do you know this "online researcher" if you ~having spent significant amount of effort to collect and upload ssh keys~ didn't even
mircea_popescu: no but it is. trust is the building block of both culture and civilisation, the ideal and real aspects of human society. reasoned trust (see phf's notion of recourse, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592296 etc) builds republics and unreasoned trust builds empires. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 17:18 phf: well, mp is presumably trying to solve a problem of quoting large conversations. our thread links for example go for one liners, but require extra effort to figure out where the conversation starts and where it ends, etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 17:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599371 << i've been thinking about this problem, because range select is very handy, but i haven't figured out a way to make it not confusing. specifically the "stickiness" where you catch a range and can't get rid of it. can implement the traditional select semantics like shift-click to activate a range?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:21 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598294 << scheme83 is like a "canticle for leibowitz" artifact. "published design" is overstatement of the century. scraps of published memos and reports spread over out of print conference proceedings, the bulk of actual technology needed to recreate probably somewhere on a TAPE. i don't know where you got that mask generator runs on scheme83. the entire production stack was for mit cadr
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 15:08 mircea_popescu: phf any idea on how to replicate Framedragger 's logger multiline selection thing without the hassle ? maybe something like "first click, highlights line ; second click, highlights area ; third click, highlights line within area" or such ?
mircea_popescu: phf any idea on how to replicate Framedragger 's logger multiline selection thing without the hassle ? maybe something like "first click, highlights line ; second click, highlights area ; third click, highlights line within area" or such ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: which one didja use phf -- the msdos one ?!
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 02:56 asciilifeform: phf: the part where jp is pathologically, direly, trapped in winblowzland, is actually true.
asciilifeform: phf: a public www toilet ideally would have guaranteed isolation of universes.
asciilifeform: phf: this method has a problem
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 21:42 phf: they are using Qt webkit integration, either through a hacked up version of phantomjs, or something handwritten. there's enough hooks in qt, that you can figure out what was loaded, where it got stored in local cache and where it's being used.
asciilifeform: phf: the part where jp is pathologically, direly, trapped in winblowzland, is actually true. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: phf: aha cheers. saw the link but didn't read the gwern piece. will now.
mircea_popescu: phf this has happened before. specifically the guy recently named in log, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584020 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf ben_vulpes : it won't corrupt anything if the berkley db is ran in "detached" mode, which it prolly should be. i don't recall if we put this in the trb or not.
mircea_popescu: so that it's trb_mod6_doesgirlsonboats.vpatch vs vtron_phf_addsnamespaces.vpatch. no conflict possible.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 02:07 phf: i still have an issue of global namespace for vpatches. i'm not yet sure that they need namespacing. it's sort of inconsequential for when you do your own press, but in terms of permanent urls you have the first come first served problem..
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 23:21 phf: and on the subject of japan and doing things right, gwern wrote about internet culture in japan http://www.gwern.net/The%20Melancholy%20of%20Subculture%20Society#japan-and-the-internet he got everything wrong, but the subject is interesting
ben_vulpes: yeah phf makes a point: kill -9 can hose data.
pete_dushenski: phf: which will ?
ben_vulpes: phf: aye
ben_vulpes: phf: saw it, gracias!
ben_vulpes: phf: consider making http://btcbase.org/patches/*/seal/ return a plaintext list of seals?
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: instead of having "web applications" we have a +v, invite only irc channel where our CL programs communicate. Well-formed messages are treated as FTP endpoints to download arbitrary information.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: anyways, I have suggested using a +v irc channel + CL-FTP + beirc as a "CLIM-web" so we can ditch the browser tomorrow
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: you dun want to know about my life situation...
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: ships with masamune.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: it works fine.
gabriel_laddel_p: phf: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bznn0f9Mk3KAZTc3blZPVVg2QU0/view?usp=sharing
mircea_popescu: phf illuminated schematics with tits seems like a winning strat.
asciilifeform: phf: i also have some dead smbx 'xl' boards i got to decap & photo dies, but also never did it, and probably won't live long enough
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 20:03 phf: mircea_popescu: it gives me a way to bring my knowledge and skill on par with people who invented computing, both on cs and ee sides. i keep one eye on a possiblity that i will be able to restart their work. in entirely hypothetical scenario of somebody coming to me and going "we want to build a personal computer that follows stan's 7 laws etc." i simply want to be able to do it from first principles. at worst there's going to be some
mircea_popescu: phf can you explain briefly and in short simple words management may be suspected of comprehending why do you think this is worth doing ?
asciilifeform: phf: i have indirect clues that there ~were~ docs, and superb ones at that
asciilifeform: the other d00d, who asciilifeform and phf both met, is schmidt, and he's a salt-of-the-earth mechanic sort of fella
asciilifeform: phf: and i'm pretty sure that mallery is an nsa asset.
asciilifeform: phf: no rush, it is not as if we had a chip fab in which to make clones, or even particularly want to make clone (i have 0 interest in perpetuating 20 years of mit undergrad young cocklet crapolade code)
asciilifeform: phf: neato
asciilifeform: incidentally did phf ever post any of his smbx finds ?