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danielpbarron: speaking of netbsd; that's what i'm researching as a candidate to replace archlinux for the pogo
asciilifeform: pogo ?
danielpbarron: oh btw, the pogo running with swap space hasn't crashed yet, currently at 87k
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was a public set of instructions for installing 'archlinux' for arm onto 'pogo'.
danielpbarron: when i searched the log for pogo, i found that linked
asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts, danielpbarron had a normal pogo
danielpbarron: the arch install occured on the pogo, if that's what you mean
asciilifeform: on pogo
danielpbarron: i followed the instructions on the archlinux page for pogo and it worked
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: your 'pogo' booted from external devices without replacing uboot ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: thus far, found nothing remotely approaching the bang/buck ratio of pogo
kakobrekla: prolly nobody cares but i just checked for fun whats the pogo cost in europe; its 55 dorra.
danielpbarron: here's a rough draft of pogo instructions: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-howto.txt / criticisms welcomed!
asciilifeform: recall, this wasn't a pogo
danielpbarron: hm, and now the 1st pogo (longer chain) is stuck while the 2nd pulls from it
danielpbarron: going back to connecting directly to my 1st pogo in that case
danielpbarron: except it's a dirty hack, and the pogo crashes anyway
danielpbarron: the pogo with the longer chain is running the burner
danielpbarron: you can see exactly how i built it here http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
danielpbarron: when i turn off my 1st pogo and let the 2nd talk to the rest of the network, it doesn't hang up on every 500th block; i guess there is some config variable that limits how many blocks to send to one peer per session?
danielpbarron: i got 2nd pogo running; it's using my own compiled bitcoind (porta tronic non bastard) and it's successfully pulling blocks from my other pogo (running ascii's porta-tronic bastard)
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: for 'pogo' ?
danielpbarron: ;;later tell asciilifeform any suggestions? this output is from your auto.sh -> http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-error.txt
assbot: 78 results for 'pogo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pogo
danielpbarron: !s pogo
danielpbarron: here's some progress: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build-nohup-tail.txt <- http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
asciilifeform: unfortunately nothing in the price ballpark of 'pogo'
asciilifeform: incl. one that looked quite like pogo, physically
asciilifeform: anybody bother to look into the competitors of 'pogo' (seagate nas, etc.) ?
fluffypony: $44.80 including delivery and customs (per Pogo)
davout: re pogo plug in europe -> http://i.imgur.com/7mtvBR3.png
punkman: who manufactures the pogo?
asciilifeform: jurov, davout: incidentally, 'pogo' is not the only supplier of this kind of thing. 'seagate' has a device with, iirc, identical pcb
davout: i tried getting a pogo on amazon, for some retarded reason the price in euros is like 60
mircea_popescu: you still got a pogo running ?
davout: asciilifeform: that's the pogo??
mircea_popescu: it's an ideal usecase for the "use ssd until it fries" because the value of running a pogo is in its running. so a pogo that ran for 3.5 years then died, had part replaced and resynced over three weeks then ran for another 3.5 years is a perfectly functional, 99.999% uptime pogo as good as any other.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: swapping on a pogo is a nonstarter
asciilifeform: but has not solved the central problem of pogo
asciilifeform: i'm actually not certain that 250 is low enough setting to make a detectable difference on pogo
danielpbarron: my pogo running asciilifeform's bastard crashes quite often
the_scourge: yah i was going to buy a pogo for nas work at home. but then i spent $way_too_much_fiat and built a xeon one instead
nubbins`: hm, did i order a pogo?
the_scourge: how would you get an asci into a pogo
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'pogo' was suggested (iirc, i suggested it) purely on account of cost (and the fact of chassis and power supply being included in the cost, pre-assembled)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: if you'd like to run node on cpu with closed turdcore running closed turdblob at all times, at 3x the cost of 'pogo' - be my guest
mircea_popescu: trinque pogo ?
asciilifeform: ip of my pogo << that'd mean having these identify selves to one another specifically
mircea_popescu: derived by "here is the ip of my pogo"
mircea_popescu: i doubt someone who has the werewithal to get the pogo going needs me to unpnp him
mircea_popescu: in any case, the pogo plugs will be quite welcome. the network's been suffering for a long time,
danielpbarron: height=173849 << my pogo running "bastard"
punkman: maybe time to get a pogo
BingoBoingo: Have any pogo people run the ArmV build with a preloaded blockchain (i.e. minimal initial sync before current)?
asciilifeform: the magic constant that results in a usable 'pogo', if such exists, has not, afaik, been determined yet.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes et al: the tips i've given re: controlling memory fandango had better suffice. i'll post a buildroot for the pogo some time this week, but unfortunately i do not have time to do the whole thing personally
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: had typo when restart of wedged pogo, it actually does restart
asciilifeform: pogo
BingoBoingo: Pogo is pretty good computer
asciilifeform: the testatron just now outpaced the 'pogo.'
asciilifeform: pogo: 187845
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: iirc, openbsd will not see the nand flash on the 'pogo.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: pogo: 187387
davout: on an other topic, wrt to pogo plug chain sync
asciilifeform: almost certainly not (quite definitely not on 'pogo')
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> this is why i pushed for deb 6 as our build target << I though a lesson of Pogo is cheap was any sane *nix is target
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] a deterministic builder of statically linked 0.5.3.xxxxx. for arbitrary cross-compiler. and ran. and turd runs on pogo. << f yeah. share?
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, what kind of drive can plug into the pogo? anything that's 2.5 inch sata? or is there a way to use larger drives with a cable?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron exact model discussed at length in teh logs, search for pogo.
mod6: and you're on like a 128mb pogo or w/e right?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, http://danielpbarron.com/pogo.asc.txt
decimation: asciilifeform: I imagine the pogo is slow as balls
asciilifeform: btw that thing is running on me pogo now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is not the pogo autodeflorator yet
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wouldja be willing to package asciilifeform's final pogo stuff into a very detailed, any noob can get it post ?
asciilifeform: nothing directly to do with the 'pogo' - that's a separate one, that isn't ready to show yet
asciilifeform: a deterministic builder of statically linked 0.5.3.xxxxx. for arbitrary cross-compiler. and ran. and turd runs on pogo.
asciilifeform: http://www.irky.org/home/pogoplug_jtag << jtag pinouts for 'pogo'. he has a v2 (not 4) but pinout is same.
asciilifeform: 'pogo' - costs less than half of rpi, incidentally.
asciilifeform: purchased a second pogo-4 for testing autodeflorator
asciilifeform: also discovered that pogo-4 has a 32kB eeprom full of zeros, unused.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, anyone else who is interested in node on 'pogo' - buy yourself the box (pogo model 4.) i intend to post a recipe soon.
asciilifeform: if only so that 'pogo' node can be pointed to it.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that it is not necessary to use the uart on pogo unless you seriously botch the install.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: data sheet reveals that there is, in fact, 64 bits of antifuse eprom in there. but it appears that 'pogo' was lazy, did not use these for anything.
danielpbarron: if you're gonna run buttcoin on something called a "pogo plug," you could call it a buttplug
asciilifeform: decimation: this is not the cheapest (~$12) but second-cheapest (~$18) 'pogo.'
asciilifeform: decimation: pogo-v4-a3-01
decimation: asciilifeform: what kind of buses are available on your pogo board? and is it the "pogoplug mobile"?
mod6: asciilifeform: regarding 'pogo': Cool!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu: incidentally, the 'pogo' i bought just showed up. will test 0.5.3 there.
asciilifeform: http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/kirkwood/assets/FS_88F6180_9x_6281_OpenSource.pdf << 'pogo'
asciilifeform: lol, seems like 'pogo' was behind that ridiculous tor thing - http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/pogoplug-safeplug-review-anonymous-browsing-instantly
asciilifeform: incidentally, if these are also to function as 'wallets'... i haven't any notion of whether, e.g., 'pogo', even has an rng.
asciilifeform: mod6: i picked up the sata-enabled 'pogo', will devote an hour or two to giving it a shot this weekend.
assbot: Convair XFY-1 Pogo | National Air and Space Museum ... ( http://bit.ly/1vujihX )
mircea_popescu: guy on tallest pogo stick
bounce: http://www.alternet.org/fail-400-billion-military-jet-cant-fly-cloudy-weather?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark http://www.pogo.org/blog/2013/02/why-the-f-35-lightning-cant-fly-in-lightning-yet.html and perhaps http://www.pogo.org/blog/2014/02/heres-what-60-minutes-didnt-tell-you-about-the-f-35.html
kanzure: http://bioinformatics.org/pogo/