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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very much what it says on the tin, you go out with tools and materials, find natural resources, develop them and get minerals.
Framedragger: !$ getarchive trilema.com
scriba: Previously archived URL: http://archive.is/egpVJ (this was archived by scriba: yes)
Framedragger: k fixd.
Framedragger: (only worx for URLs that had already been archived on archive.is (doesn't matter if by scriba or not))
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and at what bitrate does user consume entropy to steer his harvester ?
asciilifeform: https://medium.com/@thegrugq/the-great-cyber-game-commentary-3-a1ae9a70e399 << lulzy, yet another Great World-Famous Seek000000rity Researcher with a ...keybase ☟︎
shinohai: That's one of the biggest `Signal+Tor makes you invincible!!!!!` guys too.
asciilifeform: it's almost as if the 2014-15 tor busts neverhappened(tm)
asciilifeform: in other vintage lelz, http://www.od43.com/Gestapo_file_Jew_Pollak_RB.html
asciilifeform: 'The Jewish Culture Committee wrote back to Adolf Martin advising him to accept the offer because according to their inside information, the Jew Artur Israel Pollak was scheduled to be deported soon to the Generalgouvernement (occupied Poland) and would probably end up in the Warsaw ghetto. Adolf Martin then agreed to the proposal hoping that, in the event that Pollak’s belongings were auctioned off he would finally get a lump sum an
asciilifeform: hat way, auctioneer Knoch pocketed the money.'
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-18#1585380 << grugq made a funny post at some point where he says that the notorious big's track "ten crack commandments" was all you needed to know about opsec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYb_8MM1tGQ which i thought was cool in that phrack gonzo way, but otherwise he's yet another infosec personality with all the trappings ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-18 00:38 asciilifeform: https://medium.com/@thegrugq/the-great-cyber-game-commentary-3-a1ae9a70e399 << lulzy, yet another Great World-Famous Seek000000rity Researcher with a ...keybase
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BB00D032684518BC104086034CC744E677AE07664721CCE57688F6783ACBBD03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1393...4129 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '46.165.221.89 (ssh-rsa key from 46.165.221.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (s101.deinprovider.de. DE) ☟︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/91C8954AC2724E6363A8849A8FCDF60F96635C9BBF971C0FDDEDB55D824B8524 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1579...0467 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '171.96.236.55 (ssh-rsa key from 171.96.236.55 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ppp-171-96-236-55.revip8.asianet.co.th. TH)
phf: BingoBoingo porn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmKHGqfFlc
asciilifeform: phf: that was epic
BingoBoingo: Hot!
asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/12/twitter-used-to-attack-journalist-kurt-eichenwald-triggering-seizure/ << in other lelz
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/gmo-superweed-approved-for-commercial-sale-in-waning-days-of-hussein-bahamas-usda/ << Qntra - GMO Superweed Approved For Commercial Sale In Waning Days Of Hussein Bahamas USDA
BingoBoingo: ^ Povertree is back!
BingoBoingo wonders if Monsanto has found a mesotrione resistance gene
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BB00D032684518BC104086034CC744E677AE07664721CCE57688F6783ACBBD03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1175...0683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '46.165.221.89 (ssh-rsa key from 46.165.221.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (s101.deinprovider.de. DE)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-18#1585388 << lol, neighbour of dulap! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-18 01:51 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BB00D032684518BC104086034CC744E677AE07664721CCE57688F6783ACBBD03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1393...4129 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '46.165.221.89 (ssh-rsa key from 46.165.221.89 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (s101.deinprovider.de. DE)
asciilifeform: and hey there it is again.
BingoBoingo: Oh my, very near miss!
BingoBoingo: More medicine https://i.sli.mg/GS49R1.jpg
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/eeb8sr.jpg ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: And unrelated https://i.sli.mg/oDlvrr.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would guess about a few bytes/minute
mircea_popescu: actually no, lessee. a try's about seven seconds, and then if something's found that's about another 10. you don't always find something, but if skilled enough you mostly do, so say you gotta make 4 steps a minute. each step calls for a random radian value, which meaningfully is about 9 bits but nevertheless comes as a double which iirc is 64 bits. so you're doing 256 bits ie 4 bytes/minute.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 788.79, vol: 1448.43334967 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 779.9, vol: 2337.99159 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 790.26, vol: 3405.41226574 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 800.022447, vol: 996699.09300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 799.926260535
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-18#1585403 << ook that's pretty good. (also kinda what argentina is, but with EVERYTHING.) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-18 05:09 BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/eeb8sr.jpg
mircea_popescu: 256 bits ie 32 bytes/minute i mean.
mircea_popescu: !!up fromphuctor
deedbot: fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: herp.
shinohai: "I got voice, better leave without speaking!"
mircea_popescu: moar like "wut does dis button do".
mircea_popescu: in random lulz, "**UPDATE- 4/10 22:21 EST** I mentioned in this post that it was hacked, that was incorrect of me. The person who created the list simply exploited Fetlife’s code to release information."
Framedragger: this means that next time i provide paginated and nicely indexed access to relational data to a customer, i can call the feature "HACK THE SYSTEM"
mircea_popescu: alternatively it should be standard defense of every "hacker" : dude, i didn't hack anything, i simply exploited code to release information
mircea_popescu: isn't this quite literally the definition of the term among the illiterate yet contemporaneous monkeys ?
Framedragger: pretty much, i think.
mircea_popescu: it's funny, at least to me, the evolution towards fetisization. coupla decades ago, hacking meant that party a informatizes whatever system, say its satellite network, and party b hacked into the said system through the novel avenue ~and used it~ to i dunno, whatever, make itself a plate of french toast.
mircea_popescu: today, hacking means that "o noes, we discovered stratfor was being hired to spy". dude...
mircea_popescu: and in other randomness, let there be shed a tear today for the poor wedding photographers. i mean the expensive ones, catering to an "upper class clientele" consisting of women slightly uglier than the average with fathers slightly richer. dear god these poor people, they try. they ~try~.
mircea_popescu: so much effort put into making the 30yo gorgons look like 16yo fragaria vesca
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7A6FF5256A612CB6DCAD35F6ED04C530C490F5B9EF2933292DE02A55B028E507 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1604...5437 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.178.161.81 (ssh-rsa key from 213.178.161.81 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (eth1.lb01.wilhelma.de. DE)
asciilifeform: http://www.realworldrisk.com << taleb, apparently
asciilifeform: 'Note: Discussions include no equations, but a lot of concepts and pictures'
mircea_popescu: poor guy
mircea_popescu: to quote, "but my son and my daughter came out of the water and said papa, you promised you'd play!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, turn towards fetishization continues. in another decade "hacking" will be collecting software tools which ~could be used~ to explore directorry structures in which commands ~could have been run~
mircea_popescu: whereas scholarship will be i dunno, screenshots of "discussions" including no equations but a lot of "concepts" and lolpics. perhaps full of comrpession artefacts ot the point of unreadability.
mircea_popescu: and we'll look back on the age of the "idea man" as a great again focus.
asciilifeform: eh this happened long ago
asciilifeform: today 'hacking' is this - http://imgur.com/a/4aAPS
asciilifeform: and similar atrocity
asciilifeform: tomorrow it'll be finding ways to sneak word 'retarded' into shithub without being immediately censored...
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-18#1585403 << reminds me of ocean city, md. just needs some bored eastern european girls looking on, and guys in long shorts sporting hats and white socks with flip flops combination ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-18 05:09 BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/eeb8sr.jpg
BingoBoingo: But that look of Envy!
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wears socks with actually nevermind who the fuck wears flipflops!
phf: i'm pretty sure that look is permanent. i've seen it while they negotiate with a shopkeeper, while they cary bags, while they decide where to go, etc.
mircea_popescu: where's that great whats her face gif
shinohai: Pink bike, she must be trying for the Amy Schumer Barbie look
mircea_popescu: https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kumxxqzg3s1qa09ek.gif << pretty sure i had a higher res version on trilema but too lazy to dig
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7A6FF5256A612CB6DCAD35F6ED04C530C490F5B9EF2933292DE02A55B028E507 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1402...2319 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.178.161.81 (ssh-rsa key from 213.178.161.81 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (eth1.lb01.wilhelma.de. DE)
mats: ahaha photo shoot with a raspberry pi
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: lol, that last popped domain
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/7GmA4/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how is 'palaver'?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/wnB2E/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it ~works
hanbot: pete_dushenski belatedly it occurs to me the resolution (nearly three years in the making!) of the us courts circus research project (http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/) prolly deserves a spot in your year in review.
trinque: asciilifeform: curious, by "consless lisp" did you mean basically a Forth with parens? or in other words, sexps of funcs, params, and a stack, and that's about it?
trinque over here farting around in amd64 asm, wondering if the above is enough to say done with ASM, time to move up to implementing lisp atop the forthylisp
trinque has very little interesting code yet, just a learning project.
trinque: rather, not solely the above, but implementing the lisp primitives in it.
asciilifeform: trinque: a consless lisp is literally just that
trinque: neato
asciilifeform: i.e. exactly like what you have now but without cons (and hence without gc)
asciilifeform: every lisp is at some point in its life 'consless' (if the gc is written, as is proper, in itself; and prior to gc init at warmup)
asciilifeform: you can write a routine in, e.g., ordinary commonlisp, in consless style
asciilifeform: it is nontrivial, but sometimes is done when tightly optimizing by hand
Framedragger: http://neveragain.tech/
Framedragger: !$ getarchive neveragain.tech
scriba: Previously archived URL: http://archive.is/8EMmi (this was archived by scriba: yes)
Framedragger: << "We, the undersigned, are employees of tech organizations and companies based in the United States. [...] We refuse to build a database of people based on their Constitutionally-protected religious beliefs. We refuse to facilitate mass deportations of people the government believes to be undesirable. "
shinohai: !!up chatter
deedbot: chatter voiced for 30 minutes.
chatter: allah is doing
chatter: sun is not doing allah is doing
Framedragger: ^ (not saying it's not a lost cause while working for one of those "tech" "leader" companies, in the way that applying adhesive to a bursting pipe is not fixing a water problem)
chatter: to accept islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except allah and muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
Framedragger: oh yeah, i've seen quite a bit of this on various tor irc channels
shinohai: Well sorry I did that
Framedragger: you never know what god may bring upon you
shinohai: There is but one god, and Muhammad is his faggot
trinque: oh, some kind of community outreach going on?
shinohai: #9 Dogecoin. 0 commits xD https://bitstats.com/commits
Framedragger: hm, i guess so. seems to be the case. apparently it's a US tech company employee thingie (with some springs of PR by the companies)
phf: hmm if chatter wasn't just randomly spewing scripture it would be mildly entertaining if we had two competing fundamentalists with matching knowledge of their respective books
Framedragger: indeed, that's be pretty interesting. (chatter came from leaseweb, so unfortunately prolly just a bot. but a polite-enough bot.)
Framedragger: that'd*
mircea_popescu: Framedragger if they weren't dipshits it might even matter.
Framedragger: and in other "socpsy" newz, http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797616673193 << "When given two scenarios: one in which an individual reacts to his girlfriend’s infidelity by beating her, and the other, by beating her cat, participants judged that the cat beater had worse moral character than the woman beater, even though the act of beating a woman was judged to be more immoral."
mircea_popescu: there's no immorality involved in this for the love of all that's holy.
mircea_popescu: ethics != morals wtf is wrong with these idiots.
mircea_popescu: nobody actually knows what anything is, do they. not anymore. just word word word word word noun verb adjective numeral whatever the fuck no meaning whatsoever to be found anywhere ; complete and total anomie.
mircea_popescu: o holy shit
mircea_popescu: anomie is NOT "a condition in which society provides little moral guidance to individuals". for one thing, because it's not a ~condition~, it's a situation. no, these aren't the same thing. for tyhe other, becaue individuals provide guidance for society, not the other fucking way around. the "individuals who are guided by society are called children.
mircea_popescu: anomie is the collapse of names into meaninglessness.
Framedragger: one day i fear of mircea_popescu going into recursive loop by being outraged by wikipedia definitions, using other terms to show his point, and then finding those terms to also be ill-defined on wikipedia. :)
Framedragger: anomie, nice word, hm.
Framedragger: /me bids goodnight
mircea_popescu: nn
BingoBoingo thinks that happened at least once already
mircea_popescu: anyway ; the cat situation evaluates to worse quite explainably, because if woman misbehaves and woman is beaten then 1 norm is breached ; whereas if woman misbehaves and cat is beaten then 2 norms are breached. the way reptile brain works, the sum of two variables is larger than either one no matter what happens ; and larger by a fraction of the largest of the two, not by the smaller of the two.
mircea_popescu: in this special math, 100+1 = 110 not 101
mircea_popescu: hence the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580321 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 12:51 mircea_popescu: also the enslavement of the general population, murder, rape, arson and jaywalking.
mircea_popescu: but hey, idiocy doesn't hurt ; if it did wikipedia'd be larger than silk road.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im pretty sure it happened already yeah.