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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, Framedragger: script appears to be ~2/3 through its run; i'm going to let it finish.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/185DBF5D4298D675A8FC76103F0C8BCD4245E87E1E1FB0238D2D2D24378B73B9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2398...0967 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '70.100.42.43 (ssh-rsa key from 70.100.42.43 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (70-100-42-43.br1.sho.az.frontiernet.net. US AZ)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580642 << all oif you have it easy. i once had 150+ cvs sent within 24 hours to a (sales) management position ALL by waitresses, cooks, and other STRICTLY unqualified people. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 19:36 asciilifeform: phf: to quote one such 'speshul trainflake' i encountered once, 'you should be making me an offer, and not asking me to do tricks'
mircea_popescu: "this position requires CEFR:C2 for both english and german" "took german in highschool."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580657 << possibly the stupidest idea in all of curl, to not have a default timeout. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 19:43 Framedragger: there is none!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580676 << this really is the difference between hiring and partnership, though. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 19:58 trinque: whether I can code without access to *my* emacs tells someone very little about what I can do with it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580684 << thinking outside da box! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 20:02 asciilifeform: nobody cares how quickly you 'helloworld', but if instead you write down 'why should i have to do this, i expected to see a fat offer!!!' the interviewer learns something quite important.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580708 << which is why "tests" are dimly regarded by many professionals. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 20:07 trinque: no
asciilifeform: in other lulz: not everyone can buy a mig, but.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/322073122808
phf: i feel like you need to figure out how to connect it to your lispm, for that proper "we used to be Men" experience
asciilifeform: double, quadruple, the depression-induction power!1111
mircea_popescu: lol at least get the dildo!
asciilifeform: https://www.ebay.com/itm/322313504666 << mustn't forget the gear shift also...
asciilifeform: have 'almost mig' !111 just like emacs is 'almost lispm'
mircea_popescu: this #chainstate chan's a good idea. /me trolled it for good measure.
asciilifeform: what's that
mircea_popescu: block explorer's chan
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mimisbrunnr relays basic block stats to #chainstate
asciilifeform: aaah
ben_vulpes: in trinque's spirit of showing early, it's running now
ben_vulpes: and the lordship et al are invited to gawk at the dumbot
phf: "make your own mig" http://68.media.tumblr.com/16883e8accafa9ec0b0ee2b037ba11d4/tumblr_ohxssqvc4T1uu4f9zo1_500.jpg
shinohai kicks sand
mircea_popescu: can we throw it pizdnuts ?
ben_vulpes: lol that's a new one for me
mircea_popescu: it's like peanuts basically.
ben_vulpes: some kind of sk portmanteau?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/473DC6186FD220FF04A5F88556AA616EDB94018B7B8CB8642A3B6974BDBC1900 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1546...0109 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.254.33.154 (ssh-rsa key from 189.254.33.154 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (customer-189-254-33-154-sta.uninet-ide.com.mx. MX MEX)
pete_dushenski: semi-dessicated airfoil reporting for duty!
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/E9dsC << best democracy is no democracy according to millenials. juicy stats enclosed.
asciilifeform: https://www.ebay.com/itm/191912124177 << holy shit, that d00d parts these things out, sells... ben_vulpes could build whole machine again.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/05/11/mpex-vs-the-play-bitcoin-exchanges/#comment-53154 << multi-comment thread between rando and yours truly. mircea_popescu may be (very) mildly interested. looks like vague reader of logs has decided that mpex is no longer a viable business because... trading volume.
pete_dushenski: wasn't there an old comment from non-senile buffett re: trading volume ?
mircea_popescu: good for 'im
pete_dushenski: mya. dunno why he thinks ~i~ should be tasked with defending mpex instead of presenting his limp challenges here but... ya.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: looks like ol' pankkake
pete_dushenski: o.O
asciilifeform: ( i have nfi why d00d gives a shit )
pete_dushenski didn't pick up this scent. pats alf dog on snout.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has turbines for sale?
mircea_popescu: 3d printed!
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/185DBF5D4298D675A8FC76103F0C8BCD4245E87E1E1FB0238D2D2D24378B73B9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1525...8219 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '70.100.42.43 (ssh-rsa key from 70.100.42.43 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (70-100-42-43.br1.sho.az.frontiernet.net. US AZ)
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 770.78, vol: 2865.19785049 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 762.001, vol: 2896.93333 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 773.16, vol: 3224.2749591 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 782.280552, vol: 2544510.87780000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 774.629, vol: 894.64006935 | Volume-weighted last average: 782.230460854
BingoBoingo: More Emacs http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/should-i-build-or-buy-a-workbench/
ben_vulpes: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545&cpage=1#comment-17716 << lwat
mircea_popescu: "The most quoted phrase took words from an e-mail of 16 November 1999 written by Phil Jones which referred to a graph he was preparing as a diagram for the cover of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) statement on the status of global climate in 1999.[203][204] Jones wrote: "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 fo
mircea_popescu: r Keith's to hide the decline."[205] In science, the term "trick" is slang for a clever (and legitimate) technique, in this case Michael E. Mann's technique for comparing two different data sets,[206] and "the decline" referred to the already published divergence problem with tree ring density proxies affecting the post 1960 part of Keith Briffa's reconstruction graph. Despite this and the fact that 1999 had just seen record
mircea_popescu: breaking global temperatures, the email was widely misquoted as a "trick" to "hide the decline" as though it referred to a decline in measured global temperatures, an accusation made publicly by the politicians Sarah Palin and Jim Inhofe" << the wikipedia unhappening of the original global warming fraud is nothing short of astounding.
mircea_popescu: i suppose we start calling nigger assets masquerading as "scientists" trickers from now on, on the basis of you know, "a trick" being "slang" for "a clever and legitimate technique". you know, "in science".
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-cosubstantial-lie/ << Trilema - The cosubstantial lie ☟︎
shinohai: !!deed http://btcinfo.sdf.org/gpg/parachute.asc ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: accepted: 1
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-10#1580885 << ummm shinohai ... that looks like 1 column?? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-10 13:20 shinohai: !!deed http://btcinfo.sdf.org/gpg/parachute.asc
asciilifeform: what happened here?
shinohai: i see 2 colums do u
asciilifeform: hmm
shinohai: *column
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/04241AA1CB3A7D54599DF787D276651AD4A96531F3372360B21971E9279EBFC4 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2790...1797 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.151.243.160 (ssh-rsa key from 88.151.243.160 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (radium.openminds.be. BE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/473DC6186FD220FF04A5F88556AA616EDB94018B7B8CB8642A3B6974BDBC1900 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1592...4533 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.254.33.154 (ssh-rsa key from 189.254.33.154 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (customer-189-254-33-154-sta.uninet-ide.com.mx. MX MEX)
asciilifeform goes to machine with larger display
asciilifeform: gotta love crapple's autowrap
shinohai: O.o
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-10#1580884 << neato! ty for the translation mircea_popescu ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-10 11:45 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-cosubstantial-lie/ << Trilema - The cosubstantial lie
mircea_popescu: my pleasure
mircea_popescu: as you can see, there's deep reasons why the socialist state (ie, the social machinery of lies) to depend and pretend from the "scientific progress" ie the theoretical machine of lies.. the whole arrangement is predicated on "we eat and science guy will come by later and settle the bill" for this very reason.
mircea_popescu: this observation is strengthened by noticing that if what passes for idealists such as yourself or me as "legitimate" science (say, qm) chokes, ~science itself~ will produce "science" at the same rate, but of the "earth sciences and climatology" ilk.
mircea_popescu: ie, science, technology, scientific and technological progress etc aren't driven by the naive, idealist "curiosity" of "bright folks"
mircea_popescu: they're driven by the lie machine need for specific future-extending lies
mircea_popescu: and this is how "science" as a state mechanism, with grants etc came about. ☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/pharma-execs-arrested-for-selling-medicine/ << Qntra - Pharma Execs Arrested For Selling Medicine
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the "general population" desire to play the "modern democracy" game is so great - they will happily pretend! ipads are a thing, notwithstanding they're a regression in any conceivable sense, because "dude feels like data in star trek" which is to say, in plain terms, "because we understand our socialist state needs socialist science to be a thing, and we patriotically do our part in pretending it is a thi
mircea_popescu: ng".
mircea_popescu: then the orcs buy it up.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are very real and appealing vices driving, e.g., crapple. sloth, for instance.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform reads on one when he can't be arsed to get out of bed
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-10#1580905 << mr mold called it 'scientocracy', and it has 0 to do with, e.g., newton 's or kelvin's science ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-10 14:07 mircea_popescu: and this is how "science" as a state mechanism, with grants etc came about.
asciilifeform: https://wikileaks.org/bnd-inquiry << in other lulz.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/04241AA1CB3A7D54599DF787D276651AD4A96531F3372360B21971E9279EBFC4 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1645...1129 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.151.243.160 (ssh-rsa key from 88.151.243.160 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (radium.openminds.be. BE)
asciilifeform: http://lyndonlarouche.org/newamericanfascism.htm << in very other non-noose. 'This is not a democratic situation; this is a time where democracy is the worst factor you can get. You've got a democracy in the streets now, they want to kill these guys. That's the democracy I want to hear from. I don't want to hear from these so-called Democrats; I want to hear from the killers!'
asciilifeform: 'Just as LaRouche took issue with Hitler's version of total mobilization, so he criticized the Nazi leader's military strategy of waging a two-front war against both the West and the Soviet Union. Hitler should have mopped up the Rothschilds' headquarters, Britain, before marching east. The London blitz was not carried out boldly enough.' << genius.
asciilifeform: elsewhere,
asciilifeform: 'But behind the media's "soft" view of LaRouche there was often the rankest hypocrisy. While newspapers portrayed him as a kook they made editorial judgments based on the assumption that he was indeed potentially dangerous—so dangerous that his activities must be concealed from the public lest the truth help his movement grow. Jerome Chasen of the National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council, in a 1986 memorandum on LaRouch
asciilifeform: e's Illinois electoral victories, raised questions about this bizarre "quarantine" policy. Inquiries by the NJCRC, he wrote, had uncovered that "the media in Illinois did know that [Democratic primary candidates] Fairchild and Hart were LaRouchites, and chose not to headline this information, based on a judgment that to do so would give LaRouche a platform in statewide politics he did not deserve."'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-10#1580885 << ummm shinohai ... that looks like 1 column?? << fwiw, when viewing that link with lynx, i see two columns. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-10 13:20 shinohai: !!deed http://btcinfo.sdf.org/gpg/parachute.asc
mod6: (of hashes)
asciilifeform: mod6: see thread, it was an artifact
mod6: im confused.
asciilifeform: mod6: certain very broken browsers wrap columns in such a way that these parachutes appear to be 1 column.
shinohai: crapple
mod6: ah, got it.
mod6: salud
shinohai: o7
mircea_popescu: re the london blitz, this is afaik indisputed agreement, even by the biritsh side. had luftwaffe committed more seriously britain would have likely folded. likelier than any other time.
mircea_popescu: shinohai but then with the same hand he explains how "it makes a very useful" something or the other. in the same hour it humiliated him in the republic, he's there defending it.
mircea_popescu: makes very useful nothing outside of the very useful (to it) belief that it does.
mod6: mornin'
mod6: afternoon. heheh
mircea_popescu: :p
mod6: i love these FUCKGOATS pics.
mod6: hahaha, the bottom is so gd funny.
mod6: :D 'No Such Anus'
mircea_popescu: >D
mod6: This month has been pretty productive for the Foundation already.
shinohai: oh yeah
shinohai: mod6 has sacrificed much
mod6: There was a minor feature request to importprivkey, which was submitted late last month to the ML. This feature will allow a user to import a private key, but choose which block ight he starts scanning upon import. ☟︎
mod6: gah. fucking lag.
mod6: lemme try this again.
mod6: This feature will allow a user to import a private key, but choose which block height he starts scanning (for related transactions to the address) upon import.
mod6: We've seen that when you import a private key with the original I sent to the ML, it works great, but it does take the time to scan through the index from genesis to HEAD for transactions.
mod6: Depending on how fast your machine might be, this might take a while.
asciilifeform: mod6: this sounds useful. but why not simply scan backwards ?
mod6: asciilifeform: this could be made to happen indeed. it seemed more straight-forward to scan from low to high. but again, this could be altered.
mod6: however, this leaves one edge case, I think. And would need to be tested much before I send this one out.
mod6: This edge case being: If pub/priv keypair A, have been sent 1.0 bitcoins on say, tx 123456789, on block 200`000. Then sent 0.5 bitcoins from pub/priv keypair A to pubkey address B on block 250`000. If the uesr only scans back from 300`000, the balance in the wallet may not reflect the 0.5 output still there for that pubkey (from keypair A). ☟︎
asciilifeform: tru
mod6: This might resolve itself by doing a full -rescan, separately.
asciilifeform: but you can blow yourself up like this by mis-specifying start-from-and-go-forward blocknumn also.
mod6: However, this case probably exists, however, we havent replicated it yet -- and not for failing to do so, but it just needs to be setup and tested by shinohai and myself.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> but you can blow yourself up like this by mis-specifying start-from-and-go-forward blocknumn also. << i've tested this a bunch, with a rescan too, and seems ok. what do you think will be the issue here?
mod6: Anyway, this is all well and good. Just something we're working on, and considering with the utmost care.
mod6: Meanwhile...
mod6: I've reviewed the rawtx submission that polarbeard sent.
mod6: And I've created a reground patch for that.
mod6: Not being an expert myself on rawtx's, I've decided to try to get familiar with them, and become more of something closer to an expert -- so some mental strengthining has been going on there.
mod6: While doing such work, I decided it'd also be nice (if not for trb integration, for myself) to have some tools to help me construct a rawtx.
mod6: So I've created a patch that so far puts in the ability to view 'listunspent' UXTOs in the wallet.
mod6: Not the end all be all, but a starting point. ☟︎
mod6: There are maybe a few others that will help as well; maybe a rawtx signing function, and maybe something that decodes rawtxs, maybe also some script decoding?
mod6: Alas, a window into what has been happening for the last 9 days. :]
shinohai: listunspent alone would be very helpful
mod6: asciilifeform: also, there is a techincal reason for going front -> back, as opposed to back -> front.
mod6: The function 'importprivkey' uses an existing wallet.cpp function called CWallet::ScanForWalletTransactions, where you pass this a pointer to the CBlockIndex you want to ~start~ from, then this just iterates forward. by pindex - pindex->pnext;
mod6: gah s/-/=/
mod6: so, if we wanna go backwards, we'd have to create another similar method to go backwards with something like pindex = pindex->pprev. and this doesn't seem wholly better than what exists. i guess i did think about this about last week, but just figured putting in less code is better.
asciilifeform: mod6: makes sense
mod6: o7
ben_vulpes: just out of curiosity, anyone care to tell me how large their blockchain is today?
mircea_popescu: 442827 ish
ben_vulpes: in gb, silly
mircea_popescu: gotta specify!
ben_vulpes: that'd be tall?
mircea_popescu: fu semanticslawyer!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes 112.3 ish
asciilifeform: 442825 here.
mircea_popescu: lol look at f2pool, 999.9 block jeez.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah tallest valid confirmed 442825
ben_vulpes: didja see the block yesterday with a single tx in it mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: f2pool got some uber technologies, they make these well utilized blocks.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeh.
asciilifeform: hey for all we know, they have a 2-dimensional miner that varies nonce AND BLOCK
mircea_popescu: it's possible (and smart if they do)
asciilifeform: smart how
asciilifeform: if it turns out to be +ev it is a 1way ticket to a useless shitcoin
mircea_popescu: smart in they're currently squeezing a 0.15% more from blocks than everyoneelse.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry wut ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why would anyone buy the mined coin if it were impossible to transact ?
mircea_popescu: dude, you're such a nut. they make 1mn addresses, combine them into sets of 10, try each combination as payout address for the block.
mircea_popescu: whats c 1mn taken by 10s ?
asciilifeform: aaaah this
mircea_popescu: as a for instance.
asciilifeform: this'd be entirely sensible
mircea_popescu: nobody's giving away tx fees.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-10#1580944 << oh is this making it in ? epic. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-10 19:42 mod6: There was a minor feature request to importprivkey, which was submitted late last month to the ML. This feature will allow a user to import a private key, but choose which block ight he starts scanning upon import.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-10#1580966 << a dawg nice! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-10 19:54 mod6: Not the end all be all, but a starting point.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/romanias-a-dumb-slut-long-live-pharmacy-my-fuckstick/ << Trilema - Romania's a dumb slut! Long live Pharmacy! My fuckstick!
mod6: mircea_popescu: currently, "blocks" : 442825
mod6: oh oh
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> in gb, silly
mod6: 114G /mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin
mod6: 86M /mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin/debug.log
mod6: (ive been truncating mine on the regular because testing & such)
mod6: !~tslb
jhvh1: mod6: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 52 seconds
mod6: ok yah got 442`826 nao
ben_vulpes: in other tales of eldritch horror: https://medium.com/@tjholowaychuk/farewell-node-js-4ba9e7f3e52b
mats: http://generals.io good for a half hours worth of entertainment
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: 123.3
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: thank you
deedbot: http://explo.yt/post/2016/12/11/Thought-about-Python-3 << serialized delusions - Thought about Python 3
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/12/10/reimagining-the-metlife-building/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Reimagining the Metlife Building.