Framedragger: (fwiw i wouldn't defend tptacek as much, at all, but i can see how these framedraggerisms can be related under same umbrella)

Framedragger: phf: i'm curious, what was it that made you to originally regard tptacek highly? was it his words/discussions (and then later you decided that it's the only stuff that the man has actually produced - a fair point i guess, if you dismiss the crypto challenges, for example)?

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean.. i agree; i just don't agree that tptacek fits the category. sure, there are analogies, but then there exist analogies with mircea_popescu, too.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: look i won't fault you for pre-forming an opinion on tptacek and not spending your valuable time re-evaluating it. but such heuristic lumping of people into two camps is rather crude indeed. i know someone may reply "this serves tmsr's purposes well anyway, so what of it" - well, okay..

Framedragger: phf: bashing and critique of shitty crypto projects, calling out their authors (see discussions between tptacek and kaepora or however the other dood's nick is spelled) - they're a valuable public service

Framedragger: (funnily enough, as regards authority, i regard 'tptacek very highly)