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mircea_popescu: how fortunate are we, to live in the times of such great discoveries.
trinque: and with cloud computing, nobody gets to inspect the snake oil milking machine.
trinque: nb
asciilifeform: in other very non-noose, cpp standard does not specify initialization order of static variables.
asciilifeform: (specifically unlike ada, where you can explicitly specify what this is called, 'elaboration', procedures)
asciilifeform: *specify this, which is called
trinque: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-MacIvory-model-3-workstation-in-an-Apple-Quadra-700-with-Mac-O-S-8-0-/112326565327?hash=item1a272f5dcf:g:LUsAAOSwWxNYseQZ
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AFB7ADF63CF9C236A056A28E6E751A1031503D5BAC1020EEDC3350529CAB3E26 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1586...3923 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '222.168.55.50 (ssh-rsa key from 222.168.55.50 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN 22)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AFB7ADF63CF9C236A056A28E6E751A1031503D5BAC1020EEDC3350529CAB3E26 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1501...3239 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '222.168.55.50 (ssh-rsa key from 222.168.55.50 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN 22)
trinque: first time I've seen one of those for sale.
trinque will not be buying, but might be interesting to any scrap hunters present.
asciilifeform: trinque: pretty typical price
asciilifeform: and it's dks selling, looks like
asciilifeform: (though for some reason location is california, instead of virginia where he historically was found)
asciilifeform: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-XL1201-no-FPA-4-MW-memory-18-GB-SCSI-disk-19-in-monochrome-console-/112325366421?hash=item1a271d1295:g:g~4AAOSwXYtYsb-C << him, also, nao
asciilifeform: i lost more or less all interest in the physical machines after i got hold of the emulator.
asciilifeform: ( which not only runs on x64, but offers some reversing, and without electron microscope, even )
asciilifeform: iirc phf has the xl1201.
asciilifeform: btw speaking of ebay, for ~same price you can get working electron microscope, of recent make.
asciilifeform: i would get it, if i had where to put.
asciilifeform: !$ ssh 222.168.55.50 77.37.2.63 95.240.174.82 130.88.150.85
scriba: ssh banner of 222.168.55.50 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1
scriba: ssh banner of 77.37.2.63 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
scriba: ssh banner of 95.240.174.82 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.6p1 Debian-5
scriba: ssh banner of 130.88.150.85 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7
asciilifeform wonders if anybody had ever built bitcoin against debianized openssl...
asciilifeform: !!up onlooker
deedbot: onlooker voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: i guess 'looker', not talker, huh.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's alfbaiter
asciilifeform: evidently
asciilifeform: hm, now that i think of it, the question of 'against which openssl was it built' may be.. answerable. mircea_popescu : did satoshi ever distribute a binary ?
asciilifeform: iirc there was such a thing
mircea_popescu: early on, yeah. i've no copies though.
asciilifeform: ^ if anybody has copy... write in plox ^
asciilifeform: esp. of the winblowz client .
asciilifeform: http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2009-January/014994.html << exe evaporated, naturally
asciilifeform: http://www.zorinaq.com/pub/bitcoin-0.1.0.rar << purports to be mirror.
asciilifeform: 0.9.8h 28 May 2008.
mircea_popescu: prolly more interesting
mircea_popescu: i was gonna say, get the pre 1.0 ones
asciilifeform: this seems to be the 1st public exe.
asciilifeform: (my memory, apparently, was correct, he published a winturd along with 1st source)
shinohai: asciilifeform: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/trb/original-bitcoin/
asciilifeform: shinohai: INTERESTINGLY the checksums do not match !!
asciilifeform: sha512 of the exe i linked earlier : fa8f822c8f0d86f419ef94ffe80bdbfd4966169f4d3becec8b5cd4bf693ad11c1c8f91d3cfb74664cfc910a326f4bc799613847cf56aa12c3ff6124121626b6e
asciilifeform: of shinohai's : 919504c2ed1fd687f26b8b91033466854fe295464ac281abd3d83456208922a60d2844edecd4e330d7b329c24c7772289e0d32620b6dc0b8bf772b36efae98bf
asciilifeform: then again noshit
asciilifeform: shinohai: yours is 'BitCoin v0.1.3 ALPHA' per the readme.
asciilifeform: same openssl tho.
shinohai: Came from a bitcointalk mirror long ago
asciilifeform: it is interesting how much, imho, moar readable these are, than trb.
mircea_popescu: they are ?
asciilifeform: yea
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1221.0, vol: 14695.82308481 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1208.399, vol: 7580.12544 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1214.3, vol: 44198.95268492 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1125.7281, vol: 10865.13950000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1208.92, vol: 4255.09536423 | Volume-weighted last average: 1202.8837954
mircea_popescu: O NOES BITCOIN PRICE MALAISE
trinque: !!up ser
deedbot: ser voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: wb
trinque: o.0
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/77A9AAD03EADB9C5C54C893B5F439B1AAFB0E729454C9EE89C1857F7009D3272 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1487...5067 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.220.130.117 (ssh-rsa key from 190.220.130.117 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ffylead.uncu.edu.ar. AR M)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/77A9AAD03EADB9C5C54C893B5F439B1AAFB0E729454C9EE89C1857F7009D3272 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1604...4269 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '190.220.130.117 (ssh-rsa key from 190.220.130.117 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (ffyl2.uncu.edu.ar. AR M)
BingoBoingo: O NOES ARGENTINE RSA MALAISE!
asciilifeform: lol is that the pili university?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, mendoza. like a sort of kentucky.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, they're all ~equally retarded.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623101 << yes, and since i just burned a bunch of cash on a vacation, i won't be bidding on any of these machines, but dks is selling an xl1201 and two macivories☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 02:29 asciilifeform: iirc phf has the xl1201.
phf: i think a half decent reason to get an xl1201 is to sacrifice an ivory and get die shots
phf: oh he'll also be selling a macivory model 2 board, that you can put in a quadra yourself. (or use it for a die shot sacrifice...)
mircea_popescu: what's the rents in india like ?
mircea_popescu: or do you hotel
mircea_popescu: phf ^
phf: cheap, and wot dependent. i can't figure out what the market forces are like, or possibly everything's really cheap, so there's no bottom.
phf: i looked at places within 10 minute motorcycle ride from a tourist beach area
phf: what they would call "studio" in u.s., i.e. a room with a kitchen area goes for about $1000/yr
phf: looked at a mansion, where i lost count of rooms, has inner court yard and large forst area in the back, secluded, etc. advertised as $2000/mo, final price was $12000/yr (!!!)
phf: an apartment 2 bedroom apartment in a muslim town (so main downside is a regular adhan) was offered for about $300/mo
phf: this is all within 10 minute ride to the beach, 30 minute ride to the closest big city. not sure what the prices are like in the city, but i have a guy i can ask if you're interested
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623154 << phf do you presently have with what to make die shot ? i do have a dead xl1201 cpu board here.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 11:47 phf: oh he'll also be selling a macivory model 2 board, that you can put in a quadra yourself. (or use it for a die shot sacrifice...)
phf: i did a bed&breakfast which is my preferred approach, the room was baseline 2200rs/night, for 35 days, with 20% discount, worked out to about $950
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623161 << this sounds pretty neat.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:24 phf: looked at a mansion, where i lost count of rooms, has inner court yard and large forst area in the back, secluded, etc. advertised as $2000/mo, final price was $12000/yr (!!!)
asciilifeform: but i gotta wonder what the total cost of 'living like white man' might be there.
phf: right, mansion comes with fans, but not AC/central air; mosquito nets on beds; internet "work it out yourself"; etc.
asciilifeform: ( can you get, say, roquefort ? or, more interestingly, what'll it cost to avoid http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-19#515574 funnel. )☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-02-19 06:21 mircea_popescu: an old american moves to a thai village.
phf: i don't think you can pay with money for the later
asciilifeform: i'd imagine -- not.
asciilifeform: which is why asciilifeform will probably not be buying the mansion next to phf's in india..
phf: roquefort is unobtanium. in fact there's a christian monastery that makes cheese somewhere in the north, european style. they make bank selling that stuff to hotels, etc. i was trying to sell some priests on the idea, but by the time i remember we were both utterly drunk, and the conversation devolved into calls for bloody revolution and such
asciilifeform: lelz
asciilifeform: i'll admit, always wanted to live in india;
asciilifeform: --- but as a british d00d in 1890s!!
phf: re "living like white man" http://www.technopark.org
asciilifeform: lol, spam center ?
phf: place was about 40 minute motorcycle ride away and is basically "modern office" for indian outsourcing
phf: has all the usual suspects on site, oracle, microsoft, etc.
asciilifeform: that ain't 'white man', that's 'live like american plankton'
asciilifeform: 'white man' would be : in that mansion, with coolie-powered air conditioning, and roquefort ad libitum.
phf: of course, but technopark shows all the hoops you have to jump through "private water delivery" "private contract with internet provides for 99.999 internet" "private contract with electric" "fallback generator on site" etc.
phf: because otherwise you're getting your network over microwave relays, and your electric has 70% uptime
asciilifeform: my current (by no stretch of the imagination expert) understanding is that if you try to build this entirely using money, you will simply get raped
asciilifeform: i.e. your generators will cost 10x what they do in usa, locals will make bank and laugh
phf: yes, absolutely
asciilifeform: as i picture it, a, e.g., mircea_popescu , would apply the only known pill: to create a kind of miniature british raj, where the locals know the consequences of misbehaviour
asciilifeform: (of this and whatever other type)
phf: in fact my bed&briekfast guy is very much "an old dutch moves to an indian village": "license costs 300rs, but they found another irregularity so i have to pay 10'000rs fee"
asciilifeform never been to india, but worked for many, many years with emigres
phf: but i think the main source of rape is the government, rather then locals as such. can find pretty much anything for local prices, as long as you're in the right place asking the rightk inds of questions
asciilifeform: satellite relay for local prices..?
asciilifeform: in bazar?
phf: if you have a line of sight from your property to a direct satellite tower, you can get the owner to put an antena up for you, for sure. that doesn't require special licenses anywhere. of course putting up a mast on your site most likely requires government license and that's where you're going to get the bulk of rapage
asciilifeform: this aspect doesn't differ much from usa
asciilifeform: (the difference is that you don't normally ~need~ a mast there)
phf: or go through second or third hop, those might be more approachable
phf: well, define "need". yes, your default option is that you're paying for comcast(tm)(c)(r)
phf: it would be significantly cheaper to put up a mast in india, than it is in u.s. even factoring rape licenses
asciilifeform: phf: recall the thread with mircea_popescu re the traffic cops in some african shithole ? where millionaire 'i can pay whatever, fuck you' and the next day finds that the fines have grown six decimal places for him
phf: unless you're an mp, you don't have a choice to tell fuck you to local fauna, and the whole "i can pay whatever" only plays it out well in shitty miami based tv shows
asciilifeform: well that's what i am wondering, if you're entirely 'not mp', then should be prepared to pay orbital prices for 'white man' terraforming ? or this is overly pessimistic, and the local won't (why not?) charge you a kind of ad hoc 'laffer curve' maximum they think you can bear without going broke ?
phf: i think if you're ~entirely~ not mp, you're going to get raped anywhere. but if you're a little bit mp (which i think qualifies present people, otherwise none of us would be here, you yourself were trying to buy a projects building in a fucking baltimore), then i think you have better chance extracting value in india, than you do in americas. because bureaucracy runs deep here, need much more play money to sway it your way. there, you ~can~ get away with paying
asciilifeform: aha, the worst indias actually look pretty good standing next to baltimore.
phf: besides the area is still primed by the british, bene gesserit style, as sahib you will be sought out, as an articulate and educated one you will be retained.
asciilifeform: theoretically.
asciilifeform: didja find yourself sought-out-and-retained, phf ?
phf: yes
asciilifeform: neato. would be interesting to hear what this consists of
phf: well, the most ridiculous example, i befriended a doctor, initially by simply pointing out Nehru in a picture, then producing a few coherent sentences about partition of india period. was subsequently invited to dinner at his house, with family, etc.
asciilifeform: phf: i had almost identical experience with emigre right here in usa!
asciilifeform: complete with nehru
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://archive.is/M8R9F << lulzgem re your tractors from earlier qntra
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-03#1420728☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-03-03 01:58 phf: do you know what hurree babu really wants? he wants to be made a member of the royal society by taking ethnological notes.
asciilifeform: aha
phf: i think it's still a significant time period for a lot of indians. possibly the last one.
phf: in this particular case, the differentiator was the subtle lean. i mean, the south they have a special perspective on the whole thing. i suspect many of their wealthy families have little shrines to godse
asciilifeform: as a boy (after moving to usa) i once visited a house of a sikh d00d whom father was working for . he had entire room, shrine.
asciilifeform: mega-house, also.
phf: to godse? :o
asciilifeform: to i-have-nfi-what
phf: oh oh
phf: !~google nathuram godse
jhvh1: phf: Nathuram Godse - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse>; Assassination of Mahatma Gandhi - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Mahatma_Gandhi>; Why did Nathuram Godse kill Mahatma Gandhi? - Scroll.in: <https://scroll.in/article/696839/why-did-nathuram-godse-kill-mahatma-gandhi>
asciilifeform: aaaaaaah
asciilifeform: lol!
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/03/08/trumps-border-adjustment-tax-just-means-new-loopholes-thats-the-point/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Trump’s Border Adjustment Tax just means new loopholes? That’s the point!
mircea_popescu: phf i was vaguely considering sending a an infestor. something reasonable, 2/3 bedroom 2 bathroom proper kitchen ac etc. it does get terribly hot does it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623175 << the correct solution is buy 16yo girl from her father in adhana village, beat her into shape for a coupla years, buy her first ak by the time she turns 18. if you've 2-3 years to spare you'll be fine.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:41 asciilifeform: which is why asciilifeform will probably not be buying the mansion next to phf's in india..
asciilifeform: don't forget the elephant also, for her to ride.
mircea_popescu: vespa for the wasp.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tnqnXJl9qE derp related.
asciilifeform: in other minor lulz, i reversed the EC_KEY_generate_key from satoshi's libeay32.dll (where he stuffed openssl)
asciilifeform: it corresponds to the historic turd found in https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/0d01d8a7359e311b461cd1b964ce90d0699c2a2f/crypto/ec/ec_key.c
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other news, http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1990978-senalan-a-la-droga-como-madre-de-los-delitos-en-buenos-aires
mircea_popescu: including "Los femicidios aumentaron de forma "desmesurada", según admitió ayer Conte Grand. El funcionario dijo que, de acuerdo con las proyecciones estadísticas, este delito aumentó en torno al 1200 por ciento en el último año." et all
mircea_popescu: ie, i will fucking stomp them, so help me god.
asciilifeform: and whole shebang lives and dies by CryptGenRandom
asciilifeform: dorrendorf & gutterman reversed the latter in '07
asciilifeform: i shit thee not, microshit used 8 instances of rc4, seeded by cpu time, process indices, and a little bit of misc liquishit
mircea_popescu: well yeah.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is , however, that satoshi mined his blox like machine gun, in succession
mircea_popescu: aanyway, FG patch for trb wouldn't hurt.
asciilifeform: probably possible to set up a lattice
asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised that nobody's walked away with his pile yet.
asciilifeform: (there is -- quite certainly -- no reseeding in the interval between his first couple blox at least )
mircea_popescu: reward's right there innit
asciilifeform: ( who wants dorrendorf et al : http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.329.5230&rep=rep1&type=pdf )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can picture the reward, but also the butthurt
trinque: that's the rewarding kind of butthurt though
mircea_popescu: eh. bitcoin has no butt.
asciilifeform: who wants to attempt this sport -- i have posted the necessary ingredients above.
shinohai: https://www.cyberscoop.com/confide-app-security-audit-donald-trump-white-house/ "Confide, which employs no cryptography specialists on it's development team, leaks decrypted messages to attackers"
asciilifeform: ( other than the boojum -- the related-key attack for ecdsa. this you will have to invent. )
asciilifeform: lol cryptographyspecialists
shinohai: There's an app for that! (tm)
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, how dares someone http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't as if mr.t et al were using actual crypto themselves
mircea_popescu: that's unrelated to the matter that female state hallucinations are hallucinations. from "mit" to "experts" and so called judges etc.
asciilifeform: ( picture for a moment trying to sell a working airplane to cargocultists. 'what's petrol?' 'this thing is heavy' 'waitasec i have to learn to read?!' etc )
mircea_popescu: i can assure you from experience it is infinitely easier to teach any ~actual~ science to a slavegirl than to an intelligent girl.
mircea_popescu: intelligence is overrated ; obedience is by far the more important predictor of effectuality however defined and success however measured.
asciilifeform: 1337 prussian
mircea_popescu: which is why all the impudent cuntlets want to be "in a creative career" aka hallucinated non-science. if irresponsible activity bereft of verification, ie, the antithesis of science, then their imposture has some space
mircea_popescu: "advertising", not mechanical engineer. because bridges actually collapse whereas all "campaigns" can be "a success" even with <10% ROI
asciilifeform: onlooker sure luuuvvvs switching ip
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623180 << funny, they hve one here too. it's entirely abandoned, except today it was day of the mujer so it was full of the usual middle class middle aged dop.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:44 phf: re "living like white man" http://www.technopark.org
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623191 << there is no other known or possible solution to the subhuman indolence of unwhite men, than the whip in the left and the saber in the right.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:50 asciilifeform: as i picture it, a, e.g., mircea_popescu , would apply the only known pill: to create a kind of miniature british raj, where the locals know the consequences of misbehaviour
mircea_popescu: unwhite nonmen, i mean.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623205 << actually, it's a mainstay of oriental fiction, from harun al rashid to pick-your-nawab. the fundamental unsustainability of traditional economies is evident to the economically aware anthropologist, for instance in the fact that the whole echafaudage ends up requiring an underpinning of "infinite wealth" in the literal sense. very much the oriental equivalent of aristotle's fixed p☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 15:02 phf: unless you're an mp, you don't have a choice to tell fuck you to local fauna, and the whole "i can pay whatever" only plays it out well in shitty miami based tv shows
mircea_popescu: oint.
mircea_popescu: that they're more than willing to hallucinate it in fiction does not of course preclude the actual people stuck with the job of management among the monkeys inventing what best could serve as a palliative.
mircea_popescu: the traditional caliphate, incidentally, exists as a memory today (ie, a cultural mark) and existed historically (ie, as a civilisation) principally, and i do mean that, ~principally~ because an early fellow invented the superb literary device of giving people in payment not just actual value, but caftans! strips of cloth written on! that then they can value to whatever arbitrary value they wish, to offset the absurd valuatio
mircea_popescu: ns they need in order to whatever, motivate themselves.
mircea_popescu: so the satrap of fuckistan got paid a gold coin and a golden caftan worth anothjer gold coin, and counted himself happy. whereas the daymio's men couldn't be paid anything upon the kamikaze, and so the4y rebelled.
mircea_popescu: every empire's history is intimately predicated on the invention of some kind of bezzle.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, the sultan of 1001 nights is a guy with infinite wealth ; that is his form, and his function. and the stories about how the virgin got a lot for less than her life are the life and blood of village life. hope, i suppose, after a (very oricsh) fashion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which kamikaze are you thinking of here ? the one in late 1200s ?
asciilifeform: where the mongol fleet sank..?
mircea_popescu: now... wouldn't you wish to be their sultan ? because perhaps you've not read enough levy strauss & co to know about the function of the scapegoat in primitive societies. they certainly wouldn't mind BELIEVING that you do have infinite wealth. because they need someone for that role. and have. for a long time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly that one.
mircea_popescu: see, the "heroic" heroes... won. so they gotta make bank now, yes ?
asciilifeform: as in the classic roman problem, of from what to get loot with which to pay soldiers..?
mircea_popescu: quite so.
asciilifeform: also 'sultan of infinite wealth' is not so diff from 'lender of last resort',among modern monkeys
asciilifeform: 'infinities' are cheques that work ok until they are actually cashed (as per mircea_popescu's old article with the gold mountain)
asciilifeform: or the one with byzantine army
mircea_popescu: understand the problem fairly and well. hojo sanemasa got out of bed, and went to the beach. he could have stayed in bed and pulled on his dick (not! very pointedly not, pulled on concubine's clits and nippes -- that's exactly like showing up for war. if you want an equivallent -- checked his reddit.) what does this fundamental breach entitle him to ?
mircea_popescu: he "confronted his death", which is what always, ALWAYS happens when intellect leaves itself to look at the world. what now.
mircea_popescu: hojo sanemasa does not want this to have been in vain. because, if for no other reason, such as pride, vanity, or social consensus, because he only has a finite count of these. they must be employed efficaciously. what now ?
mircea_popescu: what, mp will say "japanese -- men ; burmese -- dogs" ? maybe he cares, maybe he doesn't. what else you got.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/tings-with-a-tang/ << Trilema - Tings with a tang.
mircea_popescu: caftans work, yes, lenders of last resort, harun al rashid, the eye of god. what have you got ?
asciilifeform: apparently thinking in finite terms (=~ 'confront his death' !11) is a bit much cpu load for most folx
mircea_popescu: it all starts when mothers wanting their kid to stop shitting himself prefer, rather than strangle one pour encourager les autres, to i dunno, give him a cookie every time he shat in the designated pot. prepubescent prostitution would have been a healthier habit, and more productive for the wee tyke ; but women are stupid in the sense of exactly this myopia.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to quote,
mircea_popescu: That's globalism : the hope, eagerly swallowed, the promise, readily offered, that somehow somewhere there exists another Earth, which works not on real but on ideal principles, and on which every voter, every citizen, every sack of worthless flesh will have it all. Everything they could dream of and more, forty beautiful young maidens, restraining the modest gaze of their wide and lovely eyes, like pearls, companions of equa
mircea_popescu: l age, splendid, voluptuous, non-menstruating nor urinating nor defecating and childfree (or else being able to bring to term within an hour), with bodies not affected by pregnancy or breast-feeding, about 60 cubits (ie 27.5 m) tall and 7 cubits (ie, 3.2 m) wide, transparent to the marrow of their bones, eternally young and hairless except the eyebrows and the head. Plus pure, beautiful and much more besides.
mircea_popescu: And why not ?
asciilifeform: 'strangle one' requires spares, neh
mircea_popescu: so ?
asciilifeform: so, worx great in afghan, where they make a dozen
mircea_popescu: all human cervixes could spit out a dozen.
asciilifeform: and ~any d00d could dig tunnels, lay rail.
mircea_popescu: and all this is not to detriment the samurai. the folks went, at night, disguised, and boarded boats (of the tiny fleet) and massacred men and withdrew. they cut down early scouting parties by the bushel. they did more fighting than in any other engagement. it just so happens that all their hard work accounted for less than 1% of the enemy ; and the tornado killed 80%.
asciilifeform: in re : 'coulds' -- 'thermodynamics proposes, kinetics disposes' (tm) (r) (uncle al)
mircea_popescu: they DID do the work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for educational thread -- let's take ben_vulpes , he likes children, where ought he to put a dozen ?
asciilifeform: plains of nebraska ? ( compete with monsanto, somehow ? )
mircea_popescu: preferably in the hollowed out remains of a bank. after burning down the police station.
asciilifeform: and eat what ? the bodies of the slain ? these run out
mircea_popescu: everything runs out.
mircea_popescu: historically, finding new sources of food was the ~only job of the brood.
mircea_popescu: let them figure it out.
mircea_popescu: (and, incidentally, see how well the ghetto dwellers are adept at that, huh.)
asciilifeform: and say they figure out -- as most large broods in this monkeystan do -- the shortest circuit path -- lolmart.
mircea_popescu: the definition of "white man" can NOT be that your six or twelve year old is outcompeted in a field by unwhite unman's offspring.
asciilifeform: now he presides over 12 lolmart-fed folx, candidates for BingoBoingo's zoological album. mega-win ?
asciilifeform: nature finds ~shortest~ circuits
mircea_popescu: i think your theory is outlaying to the point of irrelevance.
asciilifeform: visit bmore or one of the other hells
mircea_popescu: what's to keep them from kidnapping chelsea clinton, force-feeding her kraft flakes and butchering her in december ?
mircea_popescu: long pig ftw.
asciilifeform: the inhabitants eat ~same thing racoons eat in the park
asciilifeform: not sure mircea_popescu would even want to eat these longpigs.
mircea_popescu: point being, nature provides for filtration.
asciilifeform: does it ? or for toxin concentration.
mircea_popescu: that is the same neh ?
mircea_popescu: filtration is definitionally concentration.
asciilifeform: for the water. not for the salmon eater.
mircea_popescu: what's to keep them from kidnapping chelsea clinton, force-feeding her kraft flakes and burying her alive in the vegetable garden.
mircea_popescu: see ?
asciilifeform: somehow i always recall emperor qin shi huangdi, and his order to bury the 'scholars' and then plant melons for royal table
asciilifeform: ( or was it another..? )
mircea_popescu: one of the more sensible chinese figures
asciilifeform: but 'the thing that keeps' is that ~all creatures take shortest path, ~all of the time.
asciilifeform: or there would be no such thing as 'kraft flake'
mircea_popescu: well, evidently "white man" has been making a habit of taking longest blind paths.
asciilifeform: with some help.
mircea_popescu: that dun enter into it.
asciilifeform: at any rate, 'white man' -- as in the folx who inhabited phf's india mansion; conceived of reactors, etc -- is ~dead.
mircea_popescu: this is not unlike arguing that "sphericity is dead"
asciilifeform: possibly.
shinohai reads latest trilema, still scratches head over cars in la casa
mircea_popescu: ikr?
shinohai: Do they have a "mes de autos" ?
mircea_popescu: well evidently they have mas de autos.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623209 << this is probably the most cogent underwire in the whole thing. you are the 21 yo with a car in the rural higschool yard. they feel a deep burning inside, and the only prescription is peniform and attached to your crotch.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 15:32 phf: besides the area is still primed by the british, bene gesserit style, as sahib you will be sought out, as an articulate and educated one you will be retained.
mircea_popescu: of course, the point is not "whether you are mp" but rather -- whether you are orwell.
mircea_popescu: are you a pisenlit par la racine, to use the french expression ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/search?q=dll << openal32.dll turns out
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U9rIMn4z6Y
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why same name of dll, i have nfi, but satoshi's only had openssl
mircea_popescu: o fuck, i mischanned.
asciilifeform: ( not audio/graphics)
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform: and i misdllnamed, not even same name
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXNy0JeBchk << in other lulz, "le francais pour les pauvres"
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623164 << i missed that. i've reached out to zeptobars people and they are obviously interested in doing the scans as long as i provide the chip and they can post it to their site☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:32 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623154 << phf do you presently have with what to make die shot ? i do have a dead xl1201 cpu board here.
phf: facilitating reversing is one of their stated goals, e.g. https://zeptobars.com/en/read/KR580VM80A-intel-i8080-verilog-reverse-engineering
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> now he presides over 12 lolmart-fed folx, candidates for BingoBoingo's zoological album. mega-win ? << But they ca fix their John Deere nao!
BingoBoingo: lol http://qntra.net/2017/03/wikileaks-hands-elected-trump-us-government-weapon-to-gut-careerist-deep-state-us-government/#comment-89063
mircea_popescu: o hey, pretty cool site.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lel!
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1158.65, vol: 12616.16834789 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1135.0, vol: 8603.58194 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1162.0, vol: 43907.54684918 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1122.834906, vol: 10166.50200000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1157.246, vol: 3076.78150692 | Volume-weighted last average: 1153.22936316
BingoBoingo: Waterfall lost volume?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: apparently topless is perfectly acceptable where bitcoin isn't. just as long as letter from department of dorkitude.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amusingly, i noticed them because they rank for ANY GOOGLE SEARCH with ukraine in it, among plenty others.
mircea_popescu: but i'm sure this isn't in any sense manual ; just a very relevant site. notwithstanding no content and no links. ALGORITHMS!!!
BingoBoingo: Aha
asciilifeform: algoreithm
mod6: "let me tell you about man-bear-pig..."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623370 << maybe put me in touch with these folx☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623164 << i missed that. i've reached out to zeptobars people and they are obviously interested in doing the scans as long as i provide the chip and they can post it to their site
asciilifeform: i'll post the board at own expense, but i only have 1
asciilifeform: don't want to waste it.
asciilifeform: (i don't expect to ever run across another.)
asciilifeform: though i wonder if optical microscope will be worth a damn in this case : iirc smbx cpu was 'gate array', an early form of fpga based on mask rom
asciilifeform: http://www.donnamaie.com/AMCC_Vintage/Q20080_die.jpg << example
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf https://symbolics.lisp.engineer/ivory-cpu-heatsink-and-instability << possibly interesting to phf..?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ( interesting and at the same time depressing www. 'aesthete weenie' got hold of a lispm! )
asciilifeform: the photos are not half-bad tho.
mircea_popescu: why depressing ?
asciilifeform: well, https://symbolics.lisp.engineer/goals appears to be a list of what d00d aims to do with the thing, and typical example is 'port classic games to it', more or less 0 to do with reversing the thing
mircea_popescu: so ?
asciilifeform: so snoar from my pov.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, ttps://68.media.tumblr.com/e6b9bf1b682ab44d56edcdb0a831131d/tumblr_inline_om77i8WadD1th0i48_500.gif
asciilifeform: wassat, orwell beaten by his gurl?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know the need to cut apart the hardware of a 50yo defunct company strikes me as batshit insane
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did describe earlier, having concluded a few yrs ago that it is cheaper, easier, moar pleasant, to cut appart 'snap4' emulator (i have a pc build here ~with debug symbols~, comes apart in ida nicely) than to suffer with nitric acid and electron microscope
asciilifeform: BUT i do have the chip, bought for some bux, from the old days of giving a shit, and so offer it to phf et al.
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and waiwut, 50?! founded in '80
asciilifeform: time must flow a little faster on mircea_popescu's planet.
shinohai: https://www.memri.org/reports/russian-military-expert-we-are-quietly-seeding-us-shoreline-nuclear-mole-missiles <<< moar missle crisis
asciilifeform: shinohai: old lulzgag , originally invented in '60s, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-30#816492☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 21:23 asciilifeform: i later learned that v. n. chelomei (famous soviet rocket designer) proposed the placement of atomic bombs near u.s. east costs using a scheme much like this. (official story - it was vetoed as barbaric)
shinohai: lel
asciilifeform: but let american navy dig, on bottom of the sea, looking for boojums. just what the doctor ordered.
phf: guy is an idiot and a butt of many jokes. exactly that, wealthy aspy cto buys expensive toy, proceedes to make a full of himself
phf: *fool
asciilifeform: phf: it hit me in the face immediately
asciilifeform: this isn't the only 1 on the net, either, i found several, they bought lispms, one took hundreds of photos of himself 'hipstering' near it, then one final one where it (??!) burned down
asciilifeform: nao we know where dks's stockpile went.
trinque: lol hipstering near it, so apt.
trinque: I guess it's the next step up from "no, I only type on a mechanical typewriter"
phf: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasfields << him