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nubbins`: ^ with asciilifeform's kill-integer and dns-snip patches
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00023767 / 0.00025475 / 0.0002719 (11285618 shares, 2,875.10 BTC), 7D: 0.00022189 / 0.00025956 / 0.00028207 (45012775 shares, 11,683.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00028991 / 0.0004493 (104171490 shares, 30,200.60 BTC)
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nubbins`: i'm not sure if this is confined to my system or not, asciilifeform mod6 danielpbarron ben_vulpes et al
nubbins`: but the local build of openssl doesn't copy its includes over to the ourlibs dir
nubbins`: my darwin build put 'em in the right place
ben_vulpes: if i recall correctly - it's been a few days
nubbins`: samesies, but i think i'd remember doing this
nubbins`: i'm gonna pastebin my entire build if anyone feels like digging w/ me
cazalla: who would've thought americans sit around drinking coffee discussing how much they dislike mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: lol was Garrett Keirns Garr255 or the "Surf Captital Management" douche
nubbins`: "Bryce and I have an esoteric, and funny, similarity. We mutually disdain Romanian cryptographer Mircea Popescu. This is how we start our conversation."
punkman: maybe it's a late april fool's joke?
nubbins`: “It never goes down!” says Bryce, referring to the BTC/UNO exchange rate. “That’s the thing people love about UNO. It never goes down.”
punkman: "He tells his EVUE dream of a RIAA-approved blockchain system that will allow users to keep track of digital content and freely transfer it via internet platforms (i.e. Spotify, iTunes, Windows Media). “People will be able to keep their digital content for life,”"
punkman: my non-riaa-approved content will work just fine in 2115
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nubbins`: i feel like this is a facebook post, but on a website
nubbins`: i.e.relevant to the two guys in it, and maybe in passing to some of their friends or family
ben_vulpes: i guess that's what they call anyone who understands math these days.
ben_vulpes: "The project will be a massive undertaking requiring a large seed investment. "
ben_vulpes: huehuehuehu i got a large seed investment for ya right here buddy
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ben_vulpes: bryce will also tell you that reputation doesn't matter either.
danielpbarron: "I design blockchains to have purpose. I want the open-source, decentralized DNM to succeed so I can use my RZR coins to buy weed," quips Bryce.
danielpbarron: does he not have punk kids all over downtown to provide this service??
danielpbarron: when has it ever been difficult to score weed, seriously
Cogburn: oh cmon nobody is gonna pop in here and pretend to be me
trinque: "You think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?"
Cogburn: i dunno why people think that
cazalla: going by the article, you hate him because you ain't him
Cogburn: going by the article garret has an axe to grind with him :)
Cogburn: nobody is beneath me. where do you guys get this stuff?
danielpbarron: well he suggested that the sentiment is mutual between you two
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: Well garret lost people a bunch of money with his Surf Captial Management thing
Cogburn: that would only be one way
danielpbarron: i did a google search for the word "disdain" and got the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt.
danielpbarron: and contempt: the feeling that a person or a thing is beneath consideration, worthless, or deserving scorn.
BingoBoingo: And Garrett may or may not also be Garr255 of the Cognitive Mining tire fire
Cogburn: i have never expressed disdain. i have expressed passionate disagreement. that's what consensus is about. like the old days of the greek republics arguing the issues of the day on the senate steps
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: Would you nick happen to be a reference to Rooster Cogburn?
Cogburn: those are garrets words, not quotes
cazalla: Cogburn, maybe you should take that up with the surfs up guy instead of us? he wrote it afterall
danielpbarron: "I've developed what I call a Bitcoin Circadian Rhythm. I've noticed my body has begun aligning itself with the 10-minute block time of the Bitcoin Blockchain." << lolol
Cogburn: i think WoT's are kinda culty
danielpbarron: so when you tweeted this article, you were using the hashtag "#awesome" in a sarcastic manner?
Cogburn: I think it's awesome when people say my name. :)
trinque: those two lines in succession made me lol
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> i think WoT's are kinda culty << It makes a decent shit filter though. The postitive ratings often are no where near as informative as the reasons for the negative ratings
Cogburn: gamification of reputation is for people who can't give a good handshake or a warm, geniune smile when they meet someone.
Cogburn: trustless systems are for people with trust issues
danielpbarron: you know who gives really warm handshakes? scammers.
Cogburn: i dunno. i shook josh garza's hand. unimpressed.
danielpbarron: the same people who always have an explaination at the ready as to why they don't like WoTs
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: Score are the least important thing about a WoT, walking the graph and reading the feedback is
funkenstein_: for the record, i still think you're trolling us :)
Cogburn: I'm here specifically to remove that misconception
cazalla: Cogburn, it's not so much the wot that can be gamed but yourself
trinque: depends I think as well on initial conditions a great deal.
Cogburn: I do agree with everything MP says, but I do respect him. that's sort of a necessary component of dialectic.
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: It's not that he's trolling. He's stuck in a wilder wester place
Cogburn: We don't all have to agree.
Cogburn: The consensus can be "go fuck yourself"
BingoBoingo: Disagreement is the most valuable thing in the world, especially when its informed
Cogburn: I think we can bullshit the current system by crypto inside of the existing rules and bring about real change. I do not believe in the decentralized anarcho-capitalist utopia as a world-spanning solution to our ills. I think people will live that way if the want to, but real freedom is the ability to say "no"
cazalla: Cogburn, do you read the logs? you seem to have joined pretty quickly after my mentioning of that lulzy article
Cogburn: I was invited and I accepted :)
BingoBoingo: cazalla: And if they don't danielpbarron offers them the chance
Cogburn: I do not go where I am not wanted. I'll talk with anyone who wants to talk.
danielpbarron: yeah well you're wearing out my patience with all the spammy smily faces
Cogburn: i smile all the time. don't be so grumpy
danielpbarron: and so far all you have to say might as well have been copy pasted from the top comment on a reddit post
Cogburn: Maybe.. but it's my post and my thoughts and you're the one reading articles about me and bitching, so there is that
Cogburn: MP doesn't have the market cornered on being crazy. some of us are just fucking nuts as he is. just not as rich. yet.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: He's going off in a way we find weird. Maybe it ends up kinda fruitful.
Cogburn: many people. i fully support his threat to fork bitcoin if gavin's block expansion goes through. he's 100% correct that it is an economic alteration to the network and not simple technical
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Cogburn: ... i'm pretty sure he did
Cogburn: gavin has the keys. he's "that guy"
danielpbarron: the ones snipped from the code because they mean nothing?
trinque: Cogburn: with nothing grounding it to reality
BingoBoingo: Cogburn> gavin has the keys. he's "that guy" << Thermos also has a copy of the "Keys"
Cogburn: poor choice of words on my part
trinque: no problem, but that is the core of the issue
trinque: these clowns are no more "the bitcoin guys" than anyone else
danielpbarron: gavin has the attention poor people who think that talking about bitcoin makes them a part of it somehow
Cogburn: pun intended? what is bitcoin if not the core reference client?
funkenstein_: Alert keys. I hope somebody pushes a cosbycoin message through someday :)
Cogburn: it gets really existential really quickly
Cogburn: there's an article from late 2013 and i wish i could find it entitled "What if Bitcoin turned Evil?"
Cogburn: 21.co get $120m to make ASICs
Cogburn: let's say they end up to comprise 70% of the network
danielpbarron: if you think socialism is good, then bitcoin is evil to you
Cogburn: what are you gonna do about it?
danielpbarron: i'm gonna keep running my node that ignores their invalid blocks
Cogburn: according to consensus, the 70% wins, right?
danielpbarron: well seeing as how i'm using a node which didn't change rules..
Cogburn: but that's a single entity
danielpbarron: the consensus of whom? you still have to sell those 100m coins
Cogburn: Looking deeper, that's a silicon valley brain child
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> according to consensus, the 70% wins, right? << The beautiful thing about concensus is how many releases have been make since $100+ BTC which must agree
Cogburn: that means all those buddies in palo alto that everyone uses will fork to that chain
trinque: and if the economic implications of their fork eventually make the thing worthless, the original will have the posture towards it that it has towards fiat
Cogburn: I truly hope MP is interested in this because if he wanted to compete with 21.co I would be very down to help.
danielpbarron: if you want to help, the first step is getting in the WoT
trinque: Cogburn: ...sounds like a great reason to register so that you may retain voice and discuss that with him
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BingoBoingo: Cogburn: As someone else from the borderlands between the middle west and the middle south of the US I swear the WoT doesn't hurt that much
Cogburn: However I'm already 32 degree freemason, so thank you but no thank you
Cogburn: You know the WoT is basically forensic evidence, right?
Cogburn: I'm okay with just a quick visit.
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> You sacrifice anonymity? << You also gain insurance
Cogburn: For what? People come to my coffee house from bitcoin every few months.
trinque: no one connected to the internet on any device that exists has anonymity
danielpbarron: anonymity is overrated, and it isn't for the poor anyway
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: Did you not see mircea_popescu's insurance policy against Obola seizures?
danielpbarron: and nobody is forcing you to register your slave name
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: Of all people you might have an interest in sticking your head out here from time to time and getting friendly with people.
danielpbarron: some guy who thinks he is a big name in bitcoin but needs to acknowledge that he is currently a nobody in the realm that counts
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lol what even is this. << Rooster Cogburn's a Marshall on the altcoin wild west
Cogburn: I am very friendly. I was invited and I showed up.
Cogburn: it's a pleasure. i'm glad i did. i didn't realize that people thought i hated MP or something. I don't hate anyone. Life is too short.
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> There's always twitter << Stop by again. Just remember on Twitter danielpbarron tends to bite harder than here.
Cogburn: being critical isn't hate. i'm not above being criticized. I do and say dumb shit like anyone does. I'm also kinda nuts.
cazalla: Cogburn, it's your friend who gave such an impression, not us
danielpbarron: when condensing thoughts into 140 characters i tend to chop out the nice sounding bits leaving only the necessary harsh words
Cogburn: twitter is like conversation in haiku
trinque: Cogburn: I'm still waiting on an elaboration of this disagreement
Cogburn: MP and I had a little row at the end of 2013 and I think that's where it stemmed from
Cogburn: I literally cannot remember the context
Cogburn: I have no idea what we were talking about
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:30:49; Cogburn: we disagree. that's not hate.
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Cogburn: i remember the disagreement. there was someone else in it too... i can't remember
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2014 21:09:12; mircea_popescu: anyone know a certain Bryce Weiner ?
Cogburn: i just don't remember what it was about. some esoteric point of anarcho capitalism or some such.
Cogburn: I hadn't seen it expressed that way before
Cogburn: Let's assume my RIAA project is real. Let's assume it happens, and partners with TIDAL for content provision. If 1,000,000 people listen to 3 minute songs for 1 hour, that's 3,000,000+ TX per block in microtransactions.
Cogburn: I understand your analogy better than you think.
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Cogburn: I understand. I also appreciate where it is that I say these things.
Cogburn: This is not what I would call a "receptive audience" to my idea.
Cogburn: When we announce officially, I will come back and AMA
mod6: asciilifeform: so, If I wanna play around, I should try gxemul before qemu?
Cogburn: I think that RIAA is tired of getting fucked by new technology and drank their own koolaid.
funkenstein_: musicians are also tired of getting fucked by the riaa
Cogburn: everyone is tired of getting fucked
Cogburn: that's what my project aims to do
BingoBoingo impressed there is so much lag between axe time and sword time
Cogburn: if things are going to change, we first have to stop getting fuced
Cogburn: stop fucking over each other
Cogburn: then things just change on their own
trinque: like that time in history where things went nice and easy
Cogburn: Say what you want, it fucking worked.
Cogburn: don't talk to me of slavery if you are paid a wage
Cogburn: slavery in our time is a choice
Cogburn: i'm okay with that, so long as there is a choice
danielpbarron: it's always a choice.. between doing as your master says or being beaten
Cogburn: I appreciate some people just don't want to deal with some shit. That doesn't make them bad.
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trinque: I think ultimately people will choose whatever gives them the best life, and the sad current condition is that this is what they've chosen, because this is all they can see.
trinque: now, how do you demonstrate that there's a different way of being, defining the world, etc
danielpbarron: slavery isn't the problem with the current state of affairs; it's this mentality of "i should get to eat while also talking back to my master" that has to go
trinque: many ways, probably. but I think it's naive to think that transition happens all nice and easy like
Cogburn: I think those of us who get this blockchain bitcoin magic internet money bullshit have the opportunity to demonstrate and lead by example. Quite frankly IDGAF if MP is crazy or I disagree. I think he's doing it right. I think he knows he's doing it right, too :)
Cogburn: It's a tool that provides an opportunity to do something truly different with the world. To take advantage, we must be different.
Cogburn: "This is my way. Like, don't like, DGAF."
Cogburn: Dunno. Not my problem. I know he has one. I know he's passionate about it. That's what I think is important. The rest is how history will remember our efforts.
Cogburn: I'm an order out of chaos sort of guy.
Cogburn: I see what's going on. No issues from me.
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone ever got rms' new autoreply ? the one where he goes "i'm on a 48 hour delay like mpex" ?
Cogburn: Hahahah we had a twitter fight a year ago and people think i hate you
Cogburn: I apparently did an interview with a blogger antagonistic to you and I wanted to clarify any guilt by association
Cogburn: Okay. I did not ever think that bitcoin would outperform BH.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: With Surf Captial Management kid
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 14:59:47; asciilifeform: what a crock of shit!
danielpbarron: cazalla, Patch.com reports the arrest of a Massachusetts man who sort to purchase a firearm << should be "sought to purchase" ?
mircea_popescu: how does it even work, you hash the "public key" and then multiply it with something ? sorta halfass rsa ?
cazalla: <Cogburn> Hahahah we had a twitter fight a year ago and people think i hate you <<< not people, your friend from coinwhatever website
assbot: Identity-Based Encryption (IBE), Boneh-Franklin Algorithm, Private Key Generation, Key Certificates, Cryptography Methods | Voltage Security ... (
http://bit.ly/1DCxycx )
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mircea_popescu: any random string being hashable, any random string could be used as a pubkey, in principle. may take some work to mine a usable privkey to go with it, but...
mircea_popescu: no but i mean for srs. this could actually be done correctly
mircea_popescu: i suppose you're right - this service existing is sufficient prooof what it's serving isn't crypto.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:06:45; asciilifeform: What You Need to Know About the Unsealed Silk Road Docket << i do so hate these 'what you need to know' titles. implication is that no serious person would need to know anything else
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's targeted at folks who think the usg is a good idea and windows an operating system.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:27:23; nubbins`: wow, the latest DDOS attack against the forum seems to have reinstated the ability to change/add avatars
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform those forums... sorta tardstalk before the bitcoin.
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mircea_popescu: kinda why you'd expect governments to do better than they are, really.
mircea_popescu: ( ) Extreme profitability of spam << i take it this was 2000ish ?
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:59:45; thestringpuller: no. i'm going to have to cancel for family reasons related to finance
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 16:06:28; asciilifeform: nor should nubbins`, or ben_vulpes, or the rest.
mircea_popescu: conceivably this will come down to "use so and so, version no later than X, and you will have to either not use sound or use one of these sound cards"
Cogburn: thank, you but you need not keep voicing me. I'll consider the invitation for the WoT. Glad to clear some things up. Have a great night.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 16:09:47; mod6: Ok, so say that you have installed via offical docs, bla bla bla. Ok, then our release doesn't work. But we need to fix defects, and I refuse to have this happen going forward. So we need something repeatable.
BingoBoingo: “It was all very surreal. The nurse told me my patient had arrived on the ward. I told her I was the patient. She apparently thought I was making an existential statement and replied ‘aren’t we all just the sum of our patients and our patience’. I know, it doesn’t make any sense to me either now, but at the time it was profound, because, you know, dilaudid. “
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 19:08:25; ben_vulpes: ascii_field, nubbins`: debian 6.0.10
mircea_popescu: well how the fuck was i to know a year later ima be all the way up in thompsoncpp
mircea_popescu: but yes, the execration has occured to me a number of times.
mircea_popescu: then again if THAT didn't work it wouldn't surprise me.
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Adlai: BingoBoingo: no, the best part: McSwagger was awakened from a deep sleep by his pager, only to find out that he was being called by his own nurse, apparently because he needed something for sleep
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 16:16:41; nubbins`: so maybe we can start there
pete_dushenski reading logs, smacked with similarities between weiner / cogburn and charlie from mean streets
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mircea_popescu: but pretending like magic works isn't a solution to it.
mircea_popescu: if hypervisors fixed bad osen microsoft'd have been long fixed.
mircea_popescu: "works on another machine. check. client can't crash kernel. check"
assbot: Teen son of Canadian Consul General arrested after brother killed in drug deal | Miami Herald Miami Herald ... (
http://bit.ly/1HpqDCK )
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: how stupid and ballsy are these consul's kids that they "planned to rob the drug dealers "
pete_dushenski: why can't they just buy coke from a classmate like normal kids of consuls ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I dunno, what's going on in the Canadia
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "The teens are the sons of Roxanne Dubé, who only recently assumed the role of consul general in Miami. A former Fulbright scholar, she has extensive diplomatic experience, having worked as an aide in Parliament and as the ambassador to Zimbabwe."
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: not that anything does, but "Wabafiyebazu" isn't that canadian
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: you're closer to derpbama than i to ford ;)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, granted, it's "a better hypervisor". still runs on another os.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'll need to get a map to check that
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mircea_popescu: sometimes i fall asleep on one girl and wake up atop another.
mircea_popescu: inb short : it'd be great if emulators as you conceptually represent one existed and work. they do not. what we need is a distro to set in stone.
mircea_popescu: suppose your emulated bitcoind forks. what do you do ?
mircea_popescu: but this is essentially naive. because, again, the bitcoind is not the code you read, but the binary that runs.
mircea_popescu: if your binary that runs can not be run by your golden standard
mircea_popescu: you essentially have managed to divorce a new academia out of engineering
mircea_popescu: how do you distinguish a bug in the os from a bug in the emulator from a bug in the code ?
mircea_popescu: so you want me to pull in more code than the openssl. with worse risk outlook.
mircea_popescu: and your explanation is... "Well many people checked it"
mircea_popescu: except your emulator still runs on pentium i in question
mircea_popescu: with who knows what dirty hacks everywhere to make it "portabler"
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, portability worst fucking idea in computing!)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't see this as anything but "adding more bad code".
mircea_popescu: i don't have anything against running test versions of golden-bitcoind on anything, including toasters, gameboys, toasters emulated on gameboys etc
mircea_popescu: no, we've not even come to the discussion where "it's entirely unclear desktop with bitcoind in quemu can even process blocks in 10 minutes each"
mircea_popescu: so far, i'm a) chasing whoever the fuck broke the world by making an idiotic libnss and b) unconvinced the problem's more than that dns bs.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:17:35; asciilifeform: my dns seed snip patch never made it in the realease, did it
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 16:32:29; nubbins`: but hey. the plural of anecdote is proof, yes?
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 21:50:57; asciilifeform: bitcoin does not need dns for anythign!
mircea_popescu: well yes. im chasing the culprit. i wish to know who the fuck thought this is a good idea.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 16:34:58; jurov: even openbsd prefers to maintain racks of obsolete hardware to running emulators
mircea_popescu: nobody is disputing it's a very useful tool for many things.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 23:42:12; asciilifeform: for the benefit of n00bs, i will briefly elaborate
mircea_popescu: "Writing an empty stub is an extremely bad practice and should only be done in desperation, because at the urbit level it produces a system event log that is nonrepeatable, or at least noncompliant with the nock spec. Discrepancies propagate rapidly in any kind of replay. You should be able to turn off all jets and get the same result. This is not practical, but it is practical if you disable everything but a few ba
mircea_popescu: As a development methodology it's often useful to write hoon that tracks an existing C routine rather than the other way around, but even this needs to be done quite carefully to avoid jet discrepancies."
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mircea_popescu: well for one thing it's not ok to admit yarvin is orlov in a different color scheme
mircea_popescu: for the other it's not ok to admit urbit exists strictly because a) yarvin's chumpatron attempt failed just at the time b) usg was looking for a particular tool
mircea_popescu: so i guess two can't admits make it a mindblowing evil thing.
mircea_popescu: his mantears over bitcoin existing coupled with a certain need for "Expertise" in certain quarters...
mircea_popescu: im starting to notice a pattern here, he reads exactly like yak guy, once i read yak guy
mircea_popescu: there was a very apt summary in that physicits's criticism. i suppose i should look it up.
mircea_popescu: hey, does wikiquote have a page of quotes from my cat yet ?
mircea_popescu: "So, Hariezer is joking about the murder (its made clear later), but WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING? These escalating friendship-tests feel contrived, reciprocity is effective when you don’t make demands immediately, which is why when you get a free sample at the grocery store the person at the counter doesn’t say “did you like that? Buy this juice or we won’t be friends anymore.” This whole conversation feels
mircea_popescu: ham fisted, Hariezer is consistently telling us about all the manipulative tricks they are both using. Its less a conversation and more people who just sat through a shitty marketing seminar trying to try out what they learned. WITH RAPE. "
mircea_popescu: basicaly... these are kids whoise main feature is having sat through a bunch of bad marketing seminars.
mircea_popescu: conversations between Quirrell/Malfoy/Potter seem to follow scripts of the form
mircea_popescu: "Here is an awesome manipulation I’m using against you"
mircea_popescu: "My, that is an effective manipulation. You are a dangerous man"
mircea_popescu: "I know, but I also know that you are only flattering me as an attempt to manipulate me."
mircea_popescu: "My, what an effective use of Bayesian evidence that is!"
mircea_popescu: it's funny tho, quotations from bad fanfic, the works.
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mircea_popescu: well... the world is supremely fair, in that ignorance is its own reward.
pete_dushenski: i'm finally working my way through buffett's annual letters to berkshire shareholders
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 21:54:54; asciilifeform: i never got around to shitting out a patch to remove the hardcoded seedz
PFate: hello and thank you
PFate: erm, just a pleb atm
PFate: want twitter handle?
PFate: pete, right now its not good from watching the news
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 21:59:01; jurov: may have been satoshi himself
pete_dushenski: PFate: that works because i'm pretty sure nowhere here watches the news
cazalla: wow, that fortune.com article cites btcfeed as the source of the jan bitpay layoffs? fucking cunts
mircea_popescu: ahaha im bashing that paste shit. nubbins you should start your own act.
pete_dushenski: PFate: well congrats on "We have proven ourselves: Since our launch in 2012, there was not a single security breach."
PFate: ? the .com is not mine
mircea_popescu: cazalla write to the author and to forbes editor, tell them they can either publish a fix or else i sue.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lettuce see if forbes getting sued by bitcoin for ip infringement makes the news or not.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, author proudly displays his twitter url, but no email address, guess i'll have to dig
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know, one day you'll run into one of these claiming 2006.
pete_dushenski: and when that day comes, i'll learn not to trust anything random websites say
PFate: theres probably someone on linkedin with crypto(btc/ltc) claimed experience dating 2008
pete_dushenski: not that one can't have 20 years of 'digital cash' experience, it's just that... so what ?
mircea_popescu: iirc we had a guy in here who claimed 546805806 years of precious metal guruism
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 22:51:59; asciilifeform: i probably should have specified this in the signed text
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i just replaced one random value with another. my register's wider than his.
pete_dushenski: PFate: anyhoo so what brings you by this fine evening ?
PFate: since the bryce interview, back traced to this chan
PFate: but thats the edge of my desk
PFate: shitty comcast movies are on the other screen
PFate: i stalk persons of interest in my hobbies to see whats up
PFate: this year and last, crypto
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 22:57:01; nubbins`: i floated a design, nobody was too fussy, nothing else suggested
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i'll just end up stuck explaining why you shouldn't to angry mobs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dude dat qntra. 0.00027399 vs 0.00028991 eh!
pete_dushenski: i dunno if my monthly contributions qualify me for 'qntra ppl' but as cool as cards with just email and gpg would be, i'm not sure i'd have much use for them in the space of meat
mircea_popescu: use cockroach parts! they're great for the environment and weigh less!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski original deal was for a dozen, you;'d prolly make it
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 00:51:07; cazalla: who would've thought americans sit around drinking coffee discussing how much they dislike mircea_popescu
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 00:55:59; BingoBoingo: lol was Garrett Keirns Garr255 or the "Surf Captital Management" douche
assbot: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they're worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1ChL53G )
mircea_popescu: apparently the neobee "brick and mortar" 17 yo financiers.
PFate: that slang for collapse?
PFate: never heard it used outside building/drilling
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: aite well, if they're free to the magick dozen, i'd take mebbe 50 cards ?
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 00:58:09; nubbins`: “It never goes down!” says Bryce, referring to the BTC/UNO exchange rate. “That’s the thing people love about UNO. It never goes down.”
pete_dushenski: i saw it, just saying that i wouldn't make use of that many
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Preet Bharara's minions can be seen pleading to Judge Forrest that the terminally corrupted Baltimore investigation so how touches their investigation in no way."
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:29:27; Cogburn: oh cmon nobody is gonna pop in here and pretend to be me
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:31:12; cazalla: going by the article, you hate him because you ain't him
cazalla: mircea_popescu, lol yeah he was in the trilema comments, it's what sprung to mind at the time
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "wtf is cogburn" "it's a reference to a film you stopped because wtf is this stupid shit."
mircea_popescu: shit that only happened on planet "i'm a fat fuckhead and i will daydream an alt-history in which women actually did shit" ?
BingoBoingo: Eh, she ends up an amputee, there's gotta be a niche for that
mircea_popescu: for the record : no child at that time would have fucking dared to open her stupid mouth for fear of a beating.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's this thing which seriously proposes that a texas ranger who took the trouble to hunt some outlaw all the way into wherever the fuck is even talking to some snotty brat.
mircea_popescu: all the unwatchable crud starting with the alt-gays (brokeback mountain) all through imaginary women that never happened, brave black slaves, what have you
mircea_popescu: im looking forward to a remake of spartacus but set in south carolina
mircea_popescu: with an imaginary black leader dude that caused a countrywide revolt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, you're thinking the almost able to stand post-20s.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6831 @ 0.00027024 = 1.846 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly my first idea of socialist realism is very bad metal basreliefs.
mircea_popescu: directly visible in the say "abstraction" of movements.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31866 @ 0.00027 = 8.6038 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00027024 = 5.9047 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:39:28; Cogburn: gamification of reputation is for people who can't give a good handshake or a warm, geniune smile when they meet someone.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:45:04; Cogburn: I think we can bullshit the current system by crypto inside of the existing rules and bring about real change. I do not believe in the decentralized anarcho-capitalist utopia as a world-spanning solution to our ills. I think people will live that way if the want to, but real freedom is the ability to say "no"
BingoBoingo: Thing apparently was living, but not very. Shell that seems most motivated to please whatever is on the other side of the screen whether it be Surf or what it imagines #b-a to be
mircea_popescu: "Pretentious sounding word used by dejected art history and drama majors that describes their employment in order to make themselves feel better about serving coffee."
mircea_popescu: they could call themselves gheishas for the same money.
cazalla: asciilifeform never heard of the fabled hipster barista
mircea_popescu: anyway, entire class of could-have-been bright young things that sound like eliza.
Chillum: my local coffee serving girl is rather bright
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55650 @ 0.00027 = 15.0255 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before July"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1133/ Odds: 21(Y):79(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.61572615 BTC. Current weight: 94,079.
mircea_popescu: buffett pre 2000 is very different beast from buffett post 2001
gribble: brendafdez was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 28 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <brendafdez> mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22910 @ 0.00027 = 6.1857 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00037719 / 0.00037719 / 0.00037719 (10885 shares, 4.11 BTC), 7D: 0.00033 / 0.00037676 / 0.00037719 (10985 shares, 4.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00020808 / 0.00027399 / 0.00037719 (40462 shares, 11.09 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00023767 / 0.00025516 / 0.0002719 (10198588 shares, 2,602.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00022189 / 0.0002599 / 0.00028207 (44106582 shares, 11,463.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00028916 / 0.0004493 (103963514 shares, 30,062.38 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7108 @ 0.0002719 = 1.9327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35873 @ 0.0002713 = 9.7323 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00027218 = 1.5242 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2014 21:59:17; mike_c: their prospectus says they are going to make 6,000 btc in 2014. so quarterly dividend would be..
ben_vulpes: hey robert viragh fuck off quit emailing me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58524 @ 0.00027215 = 15.9273 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: the part about adding things to his highlights ? or the part about shewpherd pie ?
ben_vulpes: the whole log section is hilarious - some twenty lines in each direction
ben_vulpes: nubbins` going on about hif, steak, puss...
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 02:19:43; asciilifeform: Cogburn: RIAA project << i for one would only pay even a penny for something riaa-related if it somehow -takes away- at least the same penny from riaa et al.
mircea_popescu: i suppose "innovation" in the superficial sense in current usage has come to this, that it's barely a proxy for shock value. they ran out of "innovative" alts and now are hoping for interest out of the patently ridiculous.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 02:21:25; asciilifeform: the other thing is the political nuance here. when you do business with riaa etc. you are banking that 2025 will contain a world where riaa and the usg it is an affiliate of - are still in business
mircea_popescu: "that doesn't make any sense" "But it's got you talking about it!" "only briefly" "yeah well that's a lot more than the other 93875937394 guys manage"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes imagine what it's like to be his girlfriend.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00027 = 11.016 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i like to complain as much as the next jew, but these russians!
ben_vulpes: they're so down they make *you* want to kill yourself!
mircea_popescu: and notice he's not even really russian. imagine if he stayed in odessa.
ben_vulpes: well, eu that part of the world more than us.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00027218 = 2.3271 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: hm, reading back... you probably didn't even pick the pale reference didja.
ben_vulpes: i thought that was a british/irish thing.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you know, like "what part of the us is nubs from ?" << bad example. canada is just unannexed right now.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: have you never seen fiddler on the roof ? movie or play ?
mircea_popescu: "if wealth is a curse... well then may god strike me down with it! and may i never recover!"
mircea_popescu: "Just as it is the way of an ape to imitate humans, so too, a person, when he has become old, imitates himself, and does what was his manner previously."
mircea_popescu: there asciilifeform, i found you in the rishonim discussion of buffet's plight in the kotzker rebbe.
mircea_popescu: there asciilifeform, i found you rishonim precedent in the kotzker rebbe discussion of buffet's plight.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45550 @ 0.00027 = 12.2985 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: "Maybe if they’d listen to us curmudgeons once in a while, rather than trying to shut us up, community colleges wouldn’t be in the shape many of us are today: taking unconscionable amounts of students’ loan eligibility and seeing them leave when it runs out, as illiterate/innumerate as they were when they got here. No one wants us to talk about that, though."
mircea_popescu: sure. and maybe if the people trying to bail out the titanic were faster with it...
BingoBoingo: I like how the author misses the obvious conclusion, the curmudgeons were right the whole time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00027 = 3.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00027062 = 9.2146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00027062 = 4.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53650 @ 0.00027 = 14.4855 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82600 @ 0.00027204 = 22.4705 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27201 @ 0.00027225 = 7.4055 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00027244 = 6.2934 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: prob nigs with inferiority complex over da white man making that shit
punkman: mats, btw the only greek articles talking about drachma are referencing the Telegraph
punkman: (as in, check out what the brits are writing now)
cazalla: god damn easter, no bottleshops open and i require more vespene gas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8351 @ 0.00027266 = 2.277 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00027 = 4.2795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00027268 = 7.5532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27850 @ 0.00027 = 7.5195 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 28000 @ 0.00037719 = 10.5613 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00023767 / 0.00025767 / 0.00027268 (8072934 shares, 2,080.17 BTC), 7D: 0.00023767 / 0.00026037 / 0.00028207 (41640038 shares, 10,842.13 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00028858 / 0.0004493 (103878194 shares, 29,977.37 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00037719 / 0.00037719 / 0.00037719 (38885 shares, 14.67 BTC), 7D: 0.00033 / 0.00037706 / 0.00037719 (38985 shares, 14.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00020808 / 0.00031619 / 0.00037719 (68462 shares, 21.65 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40850 @ 0.00027 = 11.0295 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29450 @ 0.00027272 = 8.0316 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5674 @ 0.000273 = 1.549 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19047 @ 0.00027313 = 5.2023 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5135 @ 0.00027339 = 1.4039 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: <Cogburn> everyone is tired of getting fucked
nubbins`: <asciilifeform> pass the lsd plz.
nubbins`: did i miss a memo or somethin? wild party guise
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00027028 = 8.5138 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70800 @ 0.00027 = 19.116 BTC [-]
nubbins`: <asciilifeform> or my mips-on-fpga that exists nowhere but my living room <<< uh, srs??
nubbins`: *:asciilifeform has a list. <<< seems we've all got different lists of people who will be put against walls for various reasons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00027367 = 5.8839 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: mine's "people who charge big money for graphic design when they're clearly unqualified to do so, resulting in either sad clients or more work for the printer"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7670 @ 0.0002738 = 2.1 BTC [+]
nubbins`: <asciilifeform> folks who, to a first approximation, -don't read for pleasure- tend to write rather disconcertingly like a poorer version of what they did read. sorta like vomit looks something like the food at times <<< "This latest tome puts X in the awkward position of having written more books than they've read"
nubbins`: <asciilifeform> node needs to learn own ip somehow <<< can't felch it from the OS at runtime?
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> ahaha im bashing that paste shit. nubbins you should start your own act. <<< i'm more of a thief in the night when it comes to lels.
nubbins`: asciilifeform just unpacked a laser printer/scanner/copier thingie and went 'wtf' because it weighs maybe half of what the dearly departed predecessor did. must be 95% corn plastic or sumthing <<< scanner bed probably lexan instead of glass, etc ;p
BingoBoingo: Does the scanner not roast the bed with UV?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00027049 = 6.4106 BTC [-]
nubbins`: and i'd guess probably not, because why would it produce uv?
nubbins`: seems a waste to emit anything but the visual spectrum
nubbins`: but i talk from a place without knowledge here.
nubbins`: <pete_dushenski> i saw it, just saying that i wouldn't make use of that many <<< my first job as a "web dev", they gave me 1000 business cards. for some reason.
nubbins`: i gave one to my folks and then gave away the rest in chunks of 100 to friends who roll their own, for use as filter
nubbins`: imagine giving a thousand business cards to someone who /does not interact with clients/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00027029 = 3.4597 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2014 22:16:56; nubbins`: p liked the shepherd's pie i made
nubbins`: how do i get away with this shit
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2014 22:17:08; nubbins`: "the key to a woman's puss is through her guts", i said
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> you know, like "what part of the us is nubs from ?" <<< twodog, iirc, floated the idea of joining usa after the british gave up on us
nubbins`: closest we got was hosting a bunch of US mil bases
nubbins`: <ben_vulpes> bad example. canada is just unannexed right now. <<< i lel'd heartily, i must say
nubbins`: as if the future path of north america is single-country
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> dat spelling. <<< i'm so broud of you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.0002738 = 4.285 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> as if the future path of north america is single-country << Sure it is, Go Go Los Zetas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34550 @ 0.0002738 = 9.4598 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14559 @ 0.00027 = 3.9309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26486 @ 0.00027 = 7.1512 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before July"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1133/ Odds: 19(Y):81(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.61572615 BTC. Current weight: 93,697.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00027 = 7.3305 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "I'm a musician that supports Bitcoin! Check out my weird shitty demos!"
nubbins`: they realy go overboard with the self-deprecation
nubbins`: dat defense against future criticisms
nubbins`: guy obv thinks it's cool otherwise he wouldn't share it
nubbins`: but he fears others will think it sucks, or worse, that his taste is so poor that it *does* suck and he just doesn't see it
nubbins`: and warns you that it sucks while he shows it off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00027384 = 6.1614 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jurov the idea being that putin didn't write himself a piece of paper saying "hey if i don't like you it's ok to take your stuff". or if he wrote, he didn't sign. or if he signed, he didn't publish. etc.
☟︎ Chillum: geez, my client is up to Nov 2014 and it says it is at 70% complete. Is 30% of the blockchain volume really since November?:
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7312 @ 0.00027384 = 2.0023 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00027371 = 2.0528 BTC [-]
Chillum: wow that is some increase in volume
mircea_popescu: people, the sort who imagine themselves "part of the community" for no reason, not being able to pass even the minimal qual of running a node, have nfi just how heavy 1mb blocks are
Chillum: the percent of people who run a rull node will continue to drop
mircea_popescu: necessarily, as something becomes "popular" the percentage of imbeciles increases.
Chillum: any system will have to live with imbeciles
mircea_popescu: make it possible for imbeciles to live with it, not really.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17813 @ 0.00027384 = 4.8779 BTC [+]
Chillum: sooo know your customers is now extended to learning about their hobbies and personality?
Chillum: what does a blog accomplish?
Chillum: anyone can make a fake one
Chillum: I have only met a few of my customers, I do NOT want to know them
Chillum: the general population has a strong tendency for crazies
Chillum: in Canada you don't need to ip a tx is under $3k a day and under $10K in a year
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 08:54:21; assbot: Greece draws up drachma plans, prepares to miss IMF payment - Telegraph ... (
http://bit.ly/1BXb9Sz )
mircea_popescu: maybe next they can leech some money off the russians for a while, making promises ?
Chillum: Greece, those guys were buying gold coins from me more than the whole rest of the world combined during their bailout
Chillum: It is a big country that I live in
nubbins`: canada isn't really a country so much as it is a collection of geographically and culturally disparate regions
nubbins`: take chillum, myself, and a quebecois
nubbins`: probably our only common threads are that we like poutine and smoke trees
Chillum: poutine is gross. Sorry, but it is
Chillum: perhaps they just make it bad around here, but the french guys love it
nubbins`: most poutine around here is totally bastardized
nubbins`: stretch mozza instead of curds
nubbins`: with real curds and a thick gravy on some home fries, it's divine
Chillum: the fries always are soggy, I like crispy fries
Chillum: Vancouver Island is a culture of its own
Chillum: we are a mosaic, not a melting pot. We want disparite cultures
nubbins`: for those of you who do not grasp the size of canada, europe is closer to me than vancouver is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00027387 = 2.7798 BTC [+] {2}
Chillum: and the 15% of it to the south west has nice weather for several months a year
nubbins`: in fact, romania is closer to me than vancouver
Chillum: I always love it when the weather channel is showing ice storms out east and that we have daffodils blooming on the Island
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77269 @ 0.00027433 = 21.1972 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: it was 12C here three days ago
Chillum: of course every winter all the homeless from out east come to victoria/vancover to live
mircea_popescu: "Greece no longer has enough money to pay the IMF €498m on April 9, and also to cover payments for salaries and social security on April 14"
nubbins`: Chillum and every summer they come back to st john's :D
mircea_popescu: Chillum greece is the main example of a certain way to run a country, which is : make promises to whatever power, then not keep the promises see what it does.
Chillum: yup. They are handling the global currency collapse in a very tactical manner
mircea_popescu: ocasionally the hre would come over, the local whores (ie, married women) fucked the soldiers raw.
nubbins`: sign a lease, move out a month early and leave 35 bags worth of trash behind
Chillum: we don't give them places to live
mircea_popescu: not even. sign the lease, expect leasor to buy you drinks at the bar, sublet the place to a bunch of other dudes, never pay a dime in rent
Chillum: finding a place to live around here is hard even for a local
mircea_popescu: THEN leave, two months late and leave dead hookers in the matresses.
Chillum: we have almost no vacancies here
nubbins`: vacancy was below 1% here for a while
Chillum: If you want a place you basically have to wait for the university to let out, so once a year
nubbins`: or around the new year when all the first-year students flunk out
nubbins`: but who wants to move in winter?
mircea_popescu: “We may have to go into a silent arrears process" << check it out, they have a word for it and everything!
nubbins`: "we won't tell anyone when the money is gone"
Chillum: is that like a silent fart?
mircea_popescu: you see ? a! like, there are others, this is just one of a class!
mircea_popescu: i dunno who the overgrown infants think they're fooling,
mircea_popescu: basically, in the 70s stupid dudes in government decided to force men to pay for stupid women in the house.
mircea_popescu: the process took a few decades to come to roost, but now stupid countries are behaving comensurate with that.
mircea_popescu: so... i suppose the us, germany and whoever else has money must pay for the house where greece fucks random dudes and "raises the children"
mircea_popescu: and, obviously, the "welfare of the children" is the chief concern.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, this greek stuff is a fine test of the whole array of lizard hitler theory. clearly he couldn't possibly allow this, right ? when's the last time someone defaulted to the britton woods system ? when's the last time a government said fu, we're not going to do what you want us to do so we fail electorally ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00027454 = 2.0316 BTC [+]
Chillum: longing for the days of feudalism?
Chillum: back then if you could not manage a land it was given to someone else
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 11:47:21; nubbins`: mine's "people who charge big money for graphic design when they're clearly unqualified to do so, resulting in either sad clients or more work for the printer"
mircea_popescu: next you're going to want to hang badly dressed women, and then where will we be.
Chillum: when more complex forms of government fail it always reverts to a simpler form
Chillum: it seems current government and monetary policies seek to be intentionally complex to avoid understanding of it
mircea_popescu: Chillum a) feudalism is the most complex form to date b) democracy hasn't failed, it succeeded. like communism. turns out nobody can stand its final form.
assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1EQRGcB )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00027454 = 5.4359 BTC [+]
cnerd: I see that you have encountered these dudes DD4BC some time ago
cnerd: let me remind you :)
assbot: The lulz of today : DDoS attacks, ransom notes, Tor anonimity and other faits d'armes of the retarded generation on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1BW6bEI )
cnerd: yea, same dude(s). So, what happened, did they follow up with a more serious attack afterwards?
mircea_popescu: not that i'm specifically aware. probably, at least tried.
cnerd: so, nothing serious, i guess? They gave up pretty fast, didnt they?
mircea_popescu: so they sent a bs complaint, i replied, they sent a dmca, i counternotified, they went away beaten.
mircea_popescu: would they have done the same if i didn't have a lawyer ready to sue ? no. had the dc been more scared of me than of them if i hadn't etc ? no.
mircea_popescu: so, it can be very serious or not serious at all depending on who you are.
mircea_popescu: do you own your servers which you colocate ? do you rent time on a shared server ? these things matter.
cnerd: I pretty much understand what you are saying. Thanks for your time, man, you were incredibly helpful
mircea_popescu: they happen to matter a whole of a heck more than whether you're either right or reasonable, as it happens.
mircea_popescu: artifexd baby we need that thing so we can use it as a model to make a new dhcp too!
mircea_popescu: okok. rishonim as opposed to achronim, modern commentary as opposed to ancient. and the kotzker guy is just some famous rabbi.
mircea_popescu: universal ip, as a sha512 hash. no more of this "os doesn't know its ip" bs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. ipv6 is fatally flawed in that it has no wot.
mircea_popescu: you mean ipv4 works other than the "it doesn't allow every idiot online" aspect. gotta keep it under 10 mn or so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re greece, i see that they're resource burners. that's not the q.
mircea_popescu: there is after all a difference between farmer burning his own crop and guy going and burning other people's things.
mircea_popescu: the imf didn't give them money so as not to get it back.
mircea_popescu: all conmen ever claim to live at the pleasure of the king, of course.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think putin is having string orgasms. imagine, greece in a compact with russia! sub bases ALL THROUGH THE ISLANDS.
mircea_popescu: worst mission in the history of armed forces. "here are some fjords. find the subs. ALL OF THEM."
punkman: they are probably waiting until the US bases run out of money
mircea_popescu: unless they can find a way to run them in a vms or something.
mircea_popescu: from a greek perspective, switching bases every 10 years would be the best outcome, they can hire poor polacks to manage for the construction work.
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mircea_popescu: "Mr. Theocharakis never characterized the technical teams of the institutions with the phrase attributed to him," the ministry said in a statement. "On the contrary ... he referred to them as saying they include 'top-notch people with impressive skills.'"
mircea_popescu: alol k. "and then the greek word for hot sexy teen was mistranslated by the hebrew word for baren ugly old hag!"
assbot: FBI Uncovers Another Of Its Own Plots, Senator Feinstein Responds By Saying We Should Censor The Internet | Techdirt ... (
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mircea_popescu: there's no we. scammers always start with this "we" business.
Chillum: soon you will have to take your bra off in airports
trinque: asciilifeform: I knew a kid in junior high who was convinced the banana peel thing was real
trinque: I think he tried to rot some banana peels, yeah
trinque: or whatever the procedure was
Chillum: I imagine smoking most plant matter will do _something_
trinque: probably inhaling sand would make you a bit dizzy
trinque: sounds like an average suburban shed
nubbins`: i think all this uint stuff is just a symptom of our boost installs being totally hosed
nubbins`: sure, i mean i don't think it's putting itself together properly
nubbins`: that was my latest, right? after i applied the kill int and dns snip patches
nubbins`: but notice how each error lists /home/nubs/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/include/boost/cstdint.hpp:263
nubbins`: anyway, i actually went into cstdint.hpp and replaced a few uint32_t instances with boost::uint32_t
nubbins`: and now when i run ./auto.sh, i get:
nubbins`: i'm admittedly out of my league here but that's complete vomit from 9 different orifices
nubbins`: no, that's not the right way to do it at all
mircea_popescu: fascinating just how ignorant muricans are these days.
mike_c: because the average ____ knows how to solder?
mircea_popescu: what's to know, even. and don't give me the ny longshoreman's union line.
mike_c: not much to know, but it's not genetic.
mircea_popescu: "The complaint said Siddiqui had been in contact with al Qaeda members and Velentzas was Facebook friends with Tairod Pugh, a U.S. Air Force veteran charged with attempting to aid Islamic State, a militant group that holds territory in Iraq and Syria. Pugh, 47, of Neptune, New Jersey, pleaded not guilty last month."
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nubbins`: total noob q here, why does boost redefine all these stdint types anyway
nubbins`: y'know debian etc are probably just assuming one definition or the other
nubbins`: rather than halting at the ambiguity
trinque: when presented with an ambiguous choice, always best to choose arbitrarily
nubbins`: the correct way would i guess be to rip the boost namespace out of there
nubbins`: and explicitly declare it when needed
nubbins`: but i can imagine this'd be a bit of a task
nubbins`: unless there's a pressing need to use non-boost types, it's prob fine to just explicitly use the boost ones. not like the libs aren't being included anyway
nubbins`: incidentally, there ARE other declarations of uint32_t in those files
nubbins`: they all appear to have the boost:: prefix except for the couple of instances in above patch
nubbins`: why these random couple of instances don't have boost:: is beyond me
nubbins`: seems weird you'd fall back to the non-boost version for these couple of random instances.
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jurov: there could be some c++ namespace hackery
jurov: so that the boost:: prefix is needed depending on what is #included
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assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 13:48:47; mircea_popescu: jurov the idea being that putin didn't write himself a piece of paper saying "hey if i don't like you it's ok to take your stuff". or if he wrote, he didn't sign. or if he signed, he didn't publish. etc.
mircea_popescu: "into the country’s top-level bureaucrats and state employees "
mircea_popescu: confiscating the bureaucracy's "money" is not even on the table.
mircea_popescu: anything anyone owns on the grounds of having interacted with a government is to be taken outright.
jurov: lol, you have never interacted with the govt?
jurov: or anyone in the US had?
jurov: you ever paid any taxes?
jurov: and that's not "having interacted"?
Chillum: feed them shit, keep them in the dark
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can see a plan to have everyone who ever worked for a government shipped to the salt mines until the whole sum is made back.
mircea_popescu: "here's how much you group of criminals owe. the pay is X an hour. get busy."
jurov: aha. and why it's so important that putin "didn't write", but just takes as he seems fit without elaborating on paper?
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to be a thief, it's another to pretend not to be a thief.
mircea_popescu: which is why i write about people like bfl on trilema, but not about any one of the countless heists.
jurov: alf whines all the time about as if obama took something from him.. so i'm trying to compare
mircea_popescu: ya ya, except if you become an "oligarch", then they invent imaginary arears and steal your shit.
trinque: asciilifeform: what has you so convinced your head is going to roll?
mircea_popescu: "steal from the public" is what, microsoft ? jp manufacturer of resistors ?
mircea_popescu: they didn't, yoiu know, take employment with the govt.
mircea_popescu: these are unequal things. commerce is between equal parties. employment is between unequal parties.
mircea_popescu: it makes no difference. don't want to sell, don't sell.
mircea_popescu: otherwise we'll start having to take back the ilk of shrem because hey, "they torched his house".
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow it is discovered bharara was acting under mere color of law,
Chillum: If I was involved in the formation of a new regime I would institute a policy of mercy on the old regime. If only because any new regime is likely to be taken over by the next
Chillum: I intend to be eaten by wolves
mircea_popescu: consider the matter in terms you're better equipped to handle. if, upon breaking up a girl with her former boyfriend, you institute a policy that she may fuck him whenever,
mircea_popescu: you're merely stating that you're not really the new boyfriend.
trinque: maybe Chillum is referring to what happened in Iraq for example, where former baathists end up in ISIS
mircea_popescu: they'll revert and you'll be out of the loop soon enough.
mats: ought to have properly executed every last baathist.
Chillum: failure to plan for failure is the ultimate failure
mircea_popescu: part of why isis seems respectable where the usarmy does not.
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trinque: asciilifeform: can't, science is from satan
trinque: maybe they're respectable like one respects a forest fire
trinque: not in terms of thinking creatures, though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yeah, if they actually were intellectually respectable i'd prolly be there.
trinque: it's too early in the morning for this zen shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform danae fucked a (pee) puddle was pregnant.
trinque: seems like isis is just good kindling for a larger middle eastern war
trinque: I wouldn't expect them to continue to exist if/when that kicks off
trinque: though I wish I understood the saudi/iran dynamic more
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mircea_popescu: but yeah, i recall some stuff about how white sperms beat up black sperms.
mircea_popescu: i would imagine by now the number of retarded people being abused through this scandalous mockery of law exceeds the "sex offenders"
mircea_popescu: but hey, the us is solving its homeless population, and the un doesn't even seem to notice or anything.
mircea_popescu: what about sanctions for human rights violations in africa's most recent presidential autocracy ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i got a response from fortune, not the one i was hoping for either
mircea_popescu: cazalla i'd say they'd banned from qntra, and we just rewrite their breaking stuff without credit given, but then again they've not broken anything since like the 80s, they just rewrite random feeds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not a matter of i expect to get that head. i am getting that head.
mircea_popescu: they don't as much as have a fucking legal address on the site, anything.
cazalla: i looked for a legal contact, not finding anything, might have to be sent to time inc as they appear to own fortune.com
cazalla: mircea_popescu, nice, i'll hold off responding to this daniel roberts fellow and see what comes of yours
mircea_popescu: the point asciilifeform doesn't appreciate here is that i'd much rather spend 10k to sue forbes over a missatributed story than spend 10k to buy "clicks" on facebook or w/e.
cazalla: it's fortune.com really no difference
mircea_popescu: the donkey said to the man breaking ground, that no grains grow in freshly broken ground.
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mike_c: search.b-a issues a known problem? doesn't seem to have indexed the last few days
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, checking cache takes 1/3 of the total time
mike_c: issues be it's not returning anything from the last couple days
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shut up dude. if advanced aliens show up they perforce know of caching
mike_c: 1/3 of the total time is 53 microseconds? that's pretty fast..
mike_c: ah. game time and web time are not the same orders of magnitude :)
mircea_popescu: this, i'll grant, is an insane piece of gnarl with three joins in it. for prototyping not really used in code.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sql profiling, nothing to do with browsers.
trinque: ah three joins isn't that bad
mike_c: and he said us, not ms
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 12:23:47; nubbins`: broud was DTF at all times
nubbins`: should have a patch on the ml in an hour or so, probably poison but feel free to give it a look
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nubbins`: modifies auto.sh to copy the openssl libs to ourlibs, adds boost:: to the errant uint32_t instances
nubbins`: build still stalls out with cannot find -lssl, -lcrypto
nubbins`: i guess, anyway. verifying now
mod6: this works "as designed" on deb6 - so you might wanna put a note in there what platform this is intended for.
nubbins`: mod6 this isn't for consumption
mod6: ok thx. your message at the top is good. much appreciated
nubbins`: i will probably be doing this as a general rule going forward
nubbins`: no code changes i make should be misconstrued as being implicitly sane in any fashion
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mats: asciilifeform: good read.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 14:40:12; mircea_popescu: next you're going to want to hang badly dressed women, and then where will we be.
jurov: asciilifeform: how up to date? it does not apply patches automatically
trinque: asciilifeform: grepped for the host part there
cazalla: nothing gets me more riled up than a stupid bitch who doesn't match colours.. autism rages
mircea_popescu: the neverending fountain of weird shit... so alf get a load of this!
mircea_popescu: i make a bootable gentoo cd. system boots fine on it. this was last night. today, i go to work on it again, IT NO LONGER BOOTS.
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mircea_popescu: powered down. and what it does INSTEAD of booting is what totally blew my mind
jurov: wasn't it april fools cd?
mircea_popescu: can't find the boot device AFTER BOOTING FROM IT ? srsly ?
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mircea_popescu: and how the fuck does it not find the cd when it booted off the cd!
mircea_popescu: look. whatever whatever may be built as or not, i have two basic expectations. one is, for fucking machinery to behave the same way from night to next evening. the other, albeit weaker, is that if i get a "minimal work" thing i actually have to do minimal work.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if im going to actually have to do shit by hand im not going ot use the retarded "live cd" bs.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why these people keep offering offers they can't actually offer.
mircea_popescu: "The Gentoo minimal installation CD is a bootable CD which contains a self-sustained Gentoo environment. It allows the user to boot Linux from the CD."
mircea_popescu: is the idea im booting gentoo off the cd and it gives me ash ?!
mircea_popescu: because a) even if the cd somehow failed it shouldnb't fail like this
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trinque: holy shit the guy's made dragonballs
jurov: nubbins`: the patches need uniquie identifiers for people sending sigs later
trinque: "much like Satoshi" ahahha my sides
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nubbins`: jurov yeah i stupidly attached the shasum of my patch file to the filename
nubbins`: didn't realize the ml does it for me
jurov: lol never occurred to me someone would do it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check this out : if you boot off the cd, gentoo works ONCE. if you reboot it, it no longer works. if you boot machine with something else, this resets it, and you can now boot gentoo off cd again. ONCE.
mircea_popescu: wtf does it corrupt, the bios is not new enough and there's no hdd
nubbins`: mircea_popescu maybe the livecd checks the hdd for rootfs, tried to mount partially-installed one or smth
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the mega-l0l of 'cookbook' is that it was usg-authored originally. << Seems to have been independently written and later blessed because of its error, contrast to "Poor Mans James Bond" written by fellow who wanted to be their friend, but his work... not blessed
nubbins`: asciilifeform i don't think he can produce a good story -- that much is obvious -- but it'd be nice for him to condense his stupidity into a single volume that could be burned
nubbins`: you're not born with all the stupidity you'll ever have
nubbins`: anyway i guess the dude saw my auction and got jealous
nubbins`: figured giving away 5k btc is pretty ballin
nubbins`: nevermind that the entire concept is ludicrous
nubbins`: tempted to move 5k coins and post tx in the thread claiming that i've found the capsule ;/
nubbins`: forged in a time when men were men and haters left wood carvers alone
mircea_popescu: "I have made and sold 9 2015 wooden physical bitcoins listed below. Each one of those coins has hidden in or on it a part of the puzzle. The key to decoding the first part of that puzzle is coin #10 which after much though is being given to someone whom i already chose from this forum. In order to decode each individual wooden coin you will have to have #10 in its physical presence and in order to solve the entire firs
mircea_popescu: t clue you will need to posses and have all 10 coins in the same physical location. The clues in the coins were crafted in a fashion that you will never find them let alone figure them out via photographs, with x-rays, or in any fashion other than having all the coins in the same location at the same time to solve the puzzle."
mircea_popescu: check it out, this is pure rationality. long live bayes!
nubbins`: mircea_popescu whoa i didn't read that far.
mircea_popescu: cold cold boot does it. where the fuck does it store its stupid bits alf ?
mircea_popescu: there must be some eeprom in the bios that i don't know about.
nubbins`: "i am so rich that 5000 btc is a mere pittance, but a bunch of forum scamzors will have to collectively shell out ~$10k in airfare in order to unravel the mystery"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` funny thing is, ego and intelligence are unrelated variables at birth. plenty of people roll 6-1.
nubbins`: he must've been plotting this whole time
mircea_popescu: as opposed to, whole thing occured to him this morning as he was sitting on shitter and contemplating what a laughingstock he is
mircea_popescu: and then he wrote it all breathlessly and didn't bother to proofread before submitting.
mircea_popescu: well i can be faulted all anyone wants, but guyess what!
punkman: is there an easy way to induce an arbitrary-sized chain reorg for testing?
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mircea_popescu: punkman the best way to test that sort of thing is on a local testnet with low diff.
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nubbins`: asciilifeform i think i've got it
mircea_popescu: "The computer has no way of knowing by examining the word itself, whether a word is intended as a number or an instruction. Under most circumstances it is the numbers which are operated on and the instructions which are followed as instruction. The LGP-30 has the ability to operate on instructions as numbers. This ability is not only valuable but a feature which makes for the great power of stored program computers. Ho
mircea_popescu: wever, it is always to be avoided to use numbers as instructions. Since an instruction word is indistinguishable from a number word, some means must be provided to avoid using numbers as instructions. How this is accomplished is described under "BUILDING A PROGRAM". Also, how we convert from a 2000 to the binary representation shown is discussed later."
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trinque: "using numbers as instructions should always be avoided"
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trinque: just something you see in translations, not that a NY company's manual would be
nubbins`: others who are trying to build 0.5.3.1 on gentoo should also see above link ^
nubbins`: build script doesn't copy any of the openssl includes or libs to the ourlibs/ directory
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nubbins`: but apparently this only fails (so far) on gentoo.
trinque: it's going to get pretty difficult to follow along before long
trinque: are you gents permanently opposed to vcs?
mircea_popescu: During the conversation, the UC stated, "We read chemistry books with breakfast. Like, who does that?" VELENTZAS responded, "People who want to make history."
trinque finds tons of talk about venture capitalists :p
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:31:06; asciilifeform: but the argument here is not about sabotaged ken-thompson-style tools. but about tools that foster intellectual atrophy.
trinque: mircea_popescu: talkin bout version control
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:34:02; asciilifeform: but i will not be signing any patch that i can't apply with my mind, in my mental model of the code.
nubbins`: i haven't verified that you necessarily need to apply the dns snip patch for it to compile on gentoo
nubbins`: that getaddrinfo stuff was just a warning
nubbins`: it only happened to spit out right after the "cannot find -lssl, -lcrypto"
trinque: asciilifeform: heh I replied to you there as undata and the opinion still stands
trinque: but w/e you guys are doing the lifting, yours to decide
trinque: it's just not clear which chains of patches are which
trinque: and will increasingly be so
nubbins`: trinque this is sort of like the bible, in that various acid fevers are recorded and some of them end up being canon
nubbins`: anyway alf if you get some spare cycles, can you try my patch & verify that i'm not crazy?
trinque: entirely possible to use git or something else for dev, patch process for release
trinque: but I see the sense of this
nubbins`: i think the original was hyphenated
mircea_popescu: trinque honestly im just waiting for them to get buried in more pizza packaging first.
trinque: asciilifeform: something something nose tent
ben_vulpes: trinque: i keep my own vcs system and apply patches directly from mu4e
trinque: so now what if you want to collaborate on a branch
trinque: you're just manually doing the same thing
ben_vulpes: nobody's collaborating on anything man
ben_vulpes: the shitty thing doesn't even compile yet
ben_vulpes: does *not* compile to my requirements, i mean.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 13:37:28; nubbins`: but he fears others will think it sucks, or worse, that his taste is so poor that it *does* suck and he just doesn't see it
trinque: ok, I am aware of your perspective
trinque: you can easily verify the output of git
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> nobody's collaborating on anything man << this is like the first time ever people are seriously using a noncollaborative approach to coding.
nubbins`: the adversarial approach to development
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only whores masquerading as programmers.
trinque: not at all what I'm saying
nubbins` snoozes while waiting for bitcoind to find seeds
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eventually that list jurov keeps will become unusable as a flat thing, you are aware.
nubbins`: "patch" = updating 5,000 files at once
mircea_popescu: even if your version control is strictly "X -> Y -> Z" which are all control points
trinque: if you can't rely on the discipline of the people involved you're already fucked
trinque: running diff and patch by hand isn't going to fix it
nubbins`: asciilifeform i used that example because i've seen precisely this sort of bullshit committed to svn
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nubbins`: <+trinque> if you can't rely on the discipline of the people involved you're already fucked <<< by this metric, /we have been fucked from day one/
nubbins`: have you LOOKED at the code? :S
trinque: you're just intentionally misunderstanding me now :p
trinque: everyone who ever poked his dick into the github?
nubbins`: everyone who ever poked his dick in pre-0.5.4 bitcoin
trinque: by that logic you should never drive, because the machine's capable of 130mph into a brick wall
trinque: anyhow, proceed as you like
nubbins`: noooooo, the analogy would be a car with a governor that kicks in at 200kph
nubbins`: y'know, like they have in actual cars in real life
nubbins`: <+trinque> you're just intentionally misunderstanding me now :p
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nubbins`: for the record, your car is almost certainly not "capable" of doing anything at 130mph
nubbins`: ehh, i once got a chrysler neon up to 205.
trinque: nubbins`: my old 300zx could certainly do 130
nubbins`: trinque and is your 300zx for granny smith, or for a driver who knows the risks?
mircea_popescu: the only time i trusted a us pos i had a break plate of a ford explode. just like that.
nubbins`: and thus, the analogy complete.
mircea_popescu: look a tthat. that's almost like a modern block's worth altogether.
trinque: mircea_popescu: damn, yeah I don't drive american cars
mircea_popescu: in fairness this was prolly assembled in canada out of vietnamese parts or some shit. "american" what's that.
trinque: nubbins`: wait so granny smith is who you want working on bitcoind?
nubbins`: again, you deliberately misunderstand
trinque: all I'm saying is use tools that don't slow down the work, and have merge nazis using shame and dishonor at the center
nubbins`: it's not a question of who i want working on it
nubbins`: or of who i "want" "working" on it
trinque: the problem's solved by the wot not diff and patch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12978 @ 0.00027564 = 3.5773 BTC [+]
assbot: How a $3.85 latte paid for with a fake $100 bill led to counterfeit kingpin’s downfall | Ars Technica ... (
http://bit.ly/1Gau2bl )
ben_vulpes: trinque: you and i can collaborate any time that we want, by derping at our respective repos
trinque: I am well convinced that you guys like your process and there's nothing wrong with that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45200 @ 0.00027 = 12.204 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: i don't like it, it's just the ad-hoc thing that works today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17892 @ 0.00027 = 4.8308 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00027519 = 4.2517 BTC [+]
assbot: The ShapeShift Blog | Shape Shift | The fastest way to swap cryptocurrencies. No account required. ... (
http://bit.ly/1IbYMt5 )
jurov: (scroll down and bask in his blue eyes)
jurov: "Erik Voorhees as Founder of ShapeShift, announces seed round with Barry Silbert, Roger Ver" further down
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90100 @ 0.00027 = 24.327 BTC [-]
jurov: "creator of SatoshiDICE" my ass.
BingoBoingo: He bought SatoshiDice and retained the creator for some time, yes?
nubbins`: breaking: erik voorhees falsely claims to have created things that he didn't
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16620 @ 0.00027564 = 4.5811 BTC [+]
assbot: [Seriously] This will most likely hail downvotes, but let me try anyway... I am prostitute, how can I accept Bitcoin? : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1Ic2K4W )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00027569 = 6.7544 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00027601 = 6.3758 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you do email in emacs? i've been using mu4e and am about out of patience - coming back around to "show me the ancient tools that handle this ancient problem".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19416 @ 0.00027601 = 5.359 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: i'm particularly frustrated at verifying sigs and what has one.
nubbins`: some guy came across a bunch of old bmezine saline-injection pics
nubbins`: (for those wondering wtfx1000, the saline completely absorbs into your tissue after a few hours)
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> He bought SatoshiDice and retained the creator for some time, yes? << an' settled with the sec, to boot.
BingoBoingo: Seriously impresive stuff, just why inflate the credentials like a Turk?
mircea_popescu: jurov: "creator of SatoshiDICE" my ass. << that claim's interesting. i guess double jeopardy brings out the best in people ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i guess coinapult died ? i seem to recall a seed round about that one.
mircea_popescu: "ShapeShift was built as a demonstration of this principle: exchanges occur without custodianship of user funds. Indeed, there are no user accounts whatsoever."
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 22:53:09; assbot: [Seriously] This will most likely hail downvotes, but let me try anyway... I am prostitute, how can I accept Bitcoin? : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1Ic2K4W )
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 22:58:16; asciilifeform: 28. Facial recognition analysis matched Jack Farrel's photograph with a Texas Department of Motor Vehicle photo of RYAN ANDREW GUSTAFSON.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 23:18:29; asciilifeform: i most often use 'squirrelmail', a prehistoric www frontend to own mailserv
mircea_popescu: from the "let's make something stupid and call it our own" department, today the unconnected tap.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amusingly, i can't negrate it because i don't have enough javascript.
nubbins`: nor can i. guess you gotta log in
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Isn't that what the designated pr0n computer is for?
nubbins`: compiling buildroot is a snoozefest
nubbins`: ~3.5 hours last time but i think i've got more shit enabled this run
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21864 @ 0.00027601 = 6.0347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00027 = 1.7415 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: easily the most commented on post of that "someone in the blogosphere"'s.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00027 = 5.184 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i'd like to start by welcoming our distinguished guests
nubbins`: you may be wondering why i've assembled you all here
nubbins`: i've done things in the past that involved biopsy punches, but this isn't such an event
nubbins`: protip: have some fruit juice on hand, you tend to get dizzy
nubbins`: if your vision starts to fade, tell someone
BingoBoingo was thinking of an alternative to hancuffs. Involves padlock, biopsy punch, and two hands