assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.09670001 = 1.4505 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: o yeah, in other news, eulora sold 1 btc worth at auction
trinque: those eulora logs crack me up
trinque: seems Turkey likes ISIS just fine
trinque: at least so long as they're a problem for Syria, maybe
gribble: Error: Username already registered. Try a different username.
trinque: sexy_saffron: are you trying to register for voice here?
gribble: Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexy_saffron!42832f42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.131.47.66. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:409a509e51d1706626f4fbf803efd3850f8e1bf64f15464d6f0f01ad
trinque: assbot now has a separate WoT
assbot: sexy_saffron is not registered in WoT.
sexy_saffron: ;;bcverify HH1+7nv7kCPhzrnhTLK4AOuk0VjQ3f3+i6wM6sctJCCIdM69KEbvo1SbXHrbyDkXC6UfuiSFPHYZiviDhGt61/8=
gribble: You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT
gribble: Error: Username already registered. Try a different username.
sexy_saffron: >trinque I'm following the steps from the wiki, does that change the process?
trinque: yup, assbot's the one for auth here.
assbot: Nick trinque is already taken.
assbot: Need a decrypted verification string.
assbot: You need to specify your key fingerprint.
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
trinque: that one you get with gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
trinque: it'll want it without spaces.
sexy_saffron: I don't have it registered yet though, how do I register it?
mats: give assbot the fingerprint its asking for.
trinque: sexy_saffron: yup, needs to be uploaded so assbot can retrieve
gribble: Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--list-keys" in it. Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.
sexy_saffron: !register D170 2BB1 EE05 7FAA 3ED1 34AA 9228 37F6 B1FC 09A3
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
sexy_saffron: !register D1702BB1EE057FAA3ED134AA922837F6B1FC09A3
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: D1702BB1EE057FAA3ED134AA922837F6B1FC09A3. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key B1FC09A3 / "Saffron Bacchus <sexy_miss_safron@hotmail.com>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.sexy_saffron.1:2c59b99541364a01369da6c4cab948cf90b5ce847dd87a623e75c7d93883c776
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for sexy_saffron with note: not so new blood
sexy_saffron: if assbot has a separate WoT from gribble, does that mean it won't show up on my bitcoin-otc profile?
BingoBoingo: to be determined, but for the meantime yes
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.sexy_saffron.1:e5782c5ebf0f642efa5e359659b5e9b9f9eda46115e2ff1e6fce817f507f4e6e
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for sexy_saffron with note: Ask to see her tits.
mircea_popescu: mats isn't this how us middle east politics have been playing out since the 50s ?
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 04:09:36; *: asciilifeform sent mircea_popescu 'V' version 100K.
mats: mircea_popescu: yep. one step forward, two steps back
mircea_popescu: gotta say it in private message to assbot. /query assbot
mircea_popescu: ever consider doing one of those "naked saffron reviews videogames" things ?
sexy_saffron: that would be cool, but I'm mostly into older games
sexy_saffron: I suppose I could do gameplay vids on our private wow server, showing all the bugs :P
mircea_popescu: and then you could have a vote button, let the readers vote on whether you should be spanked or not for the review.
sexy_saffron: that would be a fun way to use coloured coins :P
thestringpuller: sexy_saffron: but I'm mostly into older games << care to name a few?
sexy_saffron: dennis and I like to play lan games together, like UT2003, minecraft, call of duty mw, our wow server
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what makes you think i personally run software
mircea_popescu: but i don't. i personally fuck, yes, i personally cook, rarely. but computors ?!
mircea_popescu: who fucking knew that cli will become the bottleneck as i age ffs.
mircea_popescu: i've been running a whore to geek conversion program for a year now, it's fucking shameful.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - anyone looking to hire junior coders : hire at the strip club. about 10x better results than cs undergrad programme)
mircea_popescu: you dun have to sell me on my own god damned idea!111!!11
sexy_saffron: loosely related, the reddit camgirls are starting to get really good at css :P
sexy_saffron: so if I want to set up with the bitcoin-otc wot, do I need to redo everything on that channel?
mircea_popescu: i dun recall the syntax but it was pretty straightforward. maybe ;;eregister it was ?
imsaguy: sexy_saffron: ;;register, ;;eregister, ;;bcregister all work depending on your preferred method of auth.
sexy_saffron: I've been trying ;;eregister but it says the nick is already registered and to try another
tripleslash: which nick are you attempting to register under?
gribble: User 'sexy_saffron', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT, registered on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014, last authed on Mon Aug 31 00:58:08 2015.
http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=sexy_saffron . Currently authenticated from hostmask sexy_saffron_!42832f42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.131.47.66 . CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick.
tripleslash: yeah, it looks like you registered a year ago
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform proof that your computing sucks : your thing is 480k, mine is 380k.
tripleslash: so while auth'd with your bitcoin address, you can do a ;;changekey or ;;echangekey which will add your gpg
gribble: You have not yet rated user sexy_saffron
gribble: User 'sexy_saffron', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT, registered on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014, last authed on Mon Aug 31 00:58:08 2015.
http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=sexy_saffron . Currently authenticated from hostmask sexy_saffron_!42832f42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.131.47.66 . CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick.
sexy_saffron: yeah! I saw he did really well with his hedge fund during the first crash
tripleslash: sexy_saffron: [e]changekey is a two step process. You have to prove you have the private key.
sexy_saffron: it didn't ask me to sign anything, it just said successful, what's the next step?
tripleslash: when you do the changekey, it'll either send you a pastebin that you need to decrypt or a otp that you need to encrypt.
tripleslash: you use verify/everify depending on which way you're choosing to go.
sexy_saffron: ah ok, it did link me to a message, which decrypted looks like the authentication phrase
sexy_saffron: what's the difference between verify and everify?
tripleslash: verify goes with changekey. everify goes with echangekey.
tripleslash: so if you did echangekey, you need to decrypt and send back to gribble via everify otp:blahblahblah
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: she is involved in the pornography industry in some capacity?
mircea_popescu: what's this, "you from new york, ever heard of joe also from new york" to the power of five ?
gabriel_laddel: nah, more along the lines of "I'm a programmer" "orly, do you grok lisp? What the primary advantages that haskell's type system provides? Ada's test suite: comments?"
tripleslash: sexy_saffron: now get some lvl 2 trust in here so you can !up to assbot
gabriel_laddel: in any case, it tells me if I'm at all interested in the individual
sexy_saffron: well I'm going to go to bed, but you guys let me know if you want me to do a custom video! :P sexy_miss_saffron@hotmail.com
mircea_popescu: nothing about XT outside of "With 58+% of the miners voting for BIP100 and less than 1% voting for XT/BIP101. XT doesn't seem likely to happen (soon). What will happen now?"
mircea_popescu: what could happen young padawan ? you were on the wrong side of history. again.
punkman: "Just landed at SFO, border control saw my @BitX shirt and asked if I was carrying more than USD10,000 in #bitcoin - how times have changed"
☟︎ trinque: I'm just barely curious what their definition of carrying is, if they have one.
Vexual: you anus might be inspected
mircea_popescu: "hello sir are you carrying more than $10k in real estate ?"
punkman: I guess they might think that bitcoin comes in physical coins only
mircea_popescu: "yes, the forever anal love of your mom's worth well over $10k!"
punkman: asciilifeform would quote babbage :P
tripleslash: I love that that the rallying cry for XT is "But censorship!"
Vexual: and the wavy hand of the law would send him on his vexed way
mircea_popescu: who actually went to the trouble of writing a letter specifically to diss xt and the two shitheads involved.
tripleslash: I'd bet most that invoke the original vision of satoshi haven't even bothered to read his paper.
mircea_popescu: much like most that invoke the original vision of jesus.
tripleslash: there are about as many eye witness accounts of both
mircea_popescu: or for that matter, the original vision of the founding fathers folks are plainly innocent of the federalist papers.
tripleslash: At the end of the day, Satoshi isn't around to continue to shepherd his project (at least by the satoshi name), so his original vision starts to lose relevance.
Vexual: he left a pretty heady resolve
punkman: I doubt satoshi expected bitcoin to come this far
trinque: ^ weird, it had a stuck connection on port 80.
mircea_popescu: anyway, gents please read the V, in whatever place you might favour.
trinque: maybe the python RSS guy needs a timeout; I'll mess with it
punkman: trinque: not uncommon if you don't have timeouts
cazalla: Vexual, only in the temperature, apparently this winter was the coldest Melbourne has had in 26 years but spring is here tomorrow so who cares
trinque: punkman: socket.setdefaulttimeout(30) << seems reasonable right?
punkman: trinque: that might not be HTTP timeout
trinque: doesn't look like feedparser has its own knob for timeout
punkman: trinque: try adding a timeout in the urllib call
trinque: feedparser doesn't hand it up as a parameter
trinque: it uses urllib, but deep in the bowels
mats: the for else construct oughta be replaced with a list comprehension IMO, re: V-genesis
mats: or something else, although it is mostly an issue of style (and I thought alf abhorred py idioms?) so maybe fuck me right
☟︎ mats: coincidentally Knuth is responsible for this keyword
☟︎ mats: fun fact: The x86 BCD instructions have undocumented support for other bases.
☟︎ trinque: this v.py is sublime. I've been playing with it for a while.
☟︎ trinque: neat that when looking at the "flow" of patches you can tell who has read the logs of the project by the signatures.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 20:47:31; mod6: ;;later tell davout You did test out rotor w/TEST2 or stator this month right? Or did I mis-remember that?
punkman: ... "as it starts taking charity donations in the virtual currency"
punkman: "It has around 75 staff looking into bitcoin and block chain at offices in Notting Hill and Old Street, close to the City of London."
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 06:59:30; punkman: "Just landed at SFO, border control saw my @BitX shirt and asked if I was carrying more than USD10,000 in #bitcoin - how times have changed"
funkenstein_ once tried to be economically independent; nearly broke his back
shinohai: not bad here funkenstein_ having coffee and logs, you?
shinohai: Welp looks like that moron chicagoschooler deleted his reddit AND twitter.
shinohai: He provided so many lulz. Shall be missed.
shinohai: I find Miley Cyrus so absolutely disgusting irl, no need for embellishments.
☟︎ punkman: shinohai: most pics I've seen of her are disgusting indeed
punkman: I quite like that one though
fluffypony: "He's currently the CTO of Etherparty"
fluffypony: what's the point of titles if they're meaningless
☟︎ fluffypony: funkenstein_: I said Fuckistania, not Funkensteinia :-P
punkman: who's the CTO of Fuckistania?
fluffypony: punkman: some 14 year old kid, it's all a competition to see who has the youngest staff
fluffypony: I've been trying to recruit a 3-year-old from a few houses down, but the parents keep looking at me funny and taking their kid inside when I bring the paperwork for him to sign
punkman: you should sponsor a hackathon at the local kindergarten
shinohai: I modified my juice box to pick up whispers and cheat at cut and paste.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 05:03:45; mircea_popescu: anyone got a link to sexy_saffron s video @ TLP was it ?
pete_dushenski: one of contravex' 10-15 most popular articles, month in and month out
shinohai: Good article pete_dushenski I hadn't read that on Sexy Saffron
pete_dushenski: it hasn't brought either of them here yet but the internet's a big place
pete_dushenski: 'specially if you're on the wrong side of 50 a la taleb
pete_dushenski: "The free-market system has salient flaws and hidden benefits. All other systems have hidden flaws and salient benefits." -herr taleb
pete_dushenski: " Note that it costs only a few dollars a day for someone to zap systematically suspicious posters who have not participated on this page before." -herr taleb, apparently learning to deal better with trolls and other internet phenomena
pete_dushenski wonders if there'd be any action on a bitbet as to whether taleb shows up here in the next year
shinohai: Taleb rejected your offer of a BTC just to show up?
pete_dushenski: y'know i can't even recall if i made him that offer before i was in b-a or not
pete_dushenski: iirc i just offered him a btc outright just to play with
pete_dushenski: of course, the tweet in question was sent from an account that's since been mothballed
shinohai: Ok camgirls failed to entice so perhaps he is immune to pr0n.
pete_dushenski: not sure i'd call sexy_saffron representative of all camgirls, nor camgirls representative of all porn, but ya, this arrow missed
shinohai: She is the closest thing to smart and sexy I have found in camgirlworld. Some of the reddit sellers are pretty saavy.
☟︎ shinohai: "Mining for bitcoin" is what got my node shut down on hashbang
pete_dushenski: "These aren't naive amateurs; they are clever hackers who are willfully stealing for their own selfish gain. It’s a small group – 1/100 of a percent of our 59 million customers – but some of them are using as much as 2 terabytes (2,000GB!) of data in a month. I’m not sure what they are doing with it – stealing wireless access for their entire business, powering a small cloud servic
pete_dushenski: e, providing broadband to a small city, mining for bitcoin -- but I really don’t care!" -john legere, ceo and president of t-mobile
☟︎ shinohai: But, automatically bitcoin is shady with a lot of providers even if you are prefectly willing to pay increased prices for service
nanashi_: Is there any remedial action due to the damage caused by the "stress-testing" which was occurring on the BTC network?
nanashi_: I have realized that "faq/#150" is potentially very dangerous to almost all bettors given the unpredictable "stress-testing" which might occur in the future.
punkman: pay more fees, problem solved
nanashi_: During an emergency like "stress-testing," I'd like to see a remedial measure which extends the 3-day window to something like 7-day window, or as a last resort, a manual inquiry for refunding.
nanashi_: Also, I'm wondering if it is possible, that by monitoring "mempool" of BTC transactions, BitBet can anticipate that the bet address is to be used by a bettor, so be able to make it exempt from reclaiming the address.
nanashi_: punkman: Yes. But I anticipate a bigger incident will inevitably occur due to a 1MB thing.
assbot: nanashi_ is not registered in WoT.
pete_dushenski: doesn't look like you're in any sort of position to make 'recommendations' to how bitbet does anything
nanashi_: pete_dushenski: I'm sorry. All I can do is monitoring BTC network's statistics and pay enough fees. Thank you.
nanashi_: Those were my worry-ness. I have never thought "faq/#150" had much meaning because I thought forgetting for 3 days seemed to be a complete idiot!
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 07:29:27; mats: or something else, although it is mostly an issue of style (and I thought alf abhorred py idioms?) so maybe fuck me right
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 08:30:08; trinque: neat that when looking at the "flow" of patches you can tell who has read the logs of the project by the signatures.
shinohai *likes asciilifeform 's clever license
shinohai: Fuck i hit paywall again and still have no way to purchase credits.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 14:31:07; asciilifeform: ;;later tell funkenstein_ if you have 'gnupg', and your system has 'pip', 'pip uninstall gnupg; pip install python-gnupg'
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: we discovered the soother last night. best. invention. ever.
pete_dushenski: (my apologies for the tardy responses y'all. i'm in and out of 'duty' atm. so i'm here, just sometimes delayed.)
ben_vulpes: i'll give it a read-through later today.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: how's the first week going?
jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu mpex has some trouble, 15min old unacknowledged orders
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: no complaints really. he's an impressive little specimen. already lifting his head!
ben_vulpes: more curious about the lifestyle change, but that's good to hear as well.
pete_dushenski: (for those unawares, head-lifting normally takes place ~1-2 months in newborns)
jurov: was he reading #b-a in the womb?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: as to lifestyle changes, nothing overwhelming really. helps that neither of us have an office job stealing us away so we can take as much time as we need to adapt, lean, and cope
pete_dushenski: jurov: b-a pretty much lit the fuse for his conception, at least or so i theorise
☟︎ jurov: ^ possible alf's antifuse rom implemntation?
pete_dushenski: "This isn’t to say, from some perspectives, that I haven’t tried to hang myself. I have. From the outside looking in at this institution-cum-“cult,” my regurgitation and therefore implicit condonation of rape and sexual slavery, whether I intended these terms in the literal or simply as useful metaphors for domination, isn’t always clearly conveyed to the reader. As such, some hot
pete_dushenski: water have I brought to boil with friends and family. Certainly nothing irresolvable, and no interventions have yet been attempted, but being a Reactionary isn’t always smooth sailing."
pete_dushenski: but hey, just my pet theory as to the passions of life.
mike_c: congrats pete! any cute pics?
mike_c: hehe. well the *baby* is very cute :)
pete_dushenski: he's lucky that he looks very little like his dad then !
mike_c: that's always a dangerous posture when the baby wakes up and decides to eat
☟︎ jurov: mats, now that you say it...
mike_c: well mazeltov and enjoy. they don't stay small long.
jurov: ANN: coinbr in snafu mode (no trading) till mpex is fixed
BingoBoingo: <nanashi_> During an emergency like "stress-testing," I'd like to see a remedial measure which extends the 3-day window to something like 7-day window, or as a last resort, a manual inquiry for refunding. << SOmetime on Day 2 double spend the coins with a higher fee so the miners want it.
jurov: why, yes, normal situation here
jurov: unrelated to this, it is kinda rotating mpex.co .bz .ws etc. proxies and *always* at least one is inaccessible due to "Temporary failure in name resolution"
☟︎ mike_c: interesting. you think that's because of flaky name servers?
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 14:53:37; kakobrekla: its generally wise to avoid dns where possible
jurov: not looked deeper into it, and it happens independently at multiple locations
trinque: shinohai: so fuck their "wifi"
shinohai: Routers aren't any fun if you can't attach a pringles yagi
ascii_field: trinque: it is about more than wifi in particular, but the entire box it happens to be installed in
☟︎ ascii_field: basic idea here is an attempted ban on cheap chinese 'we won't lift a finger to enforce usg diktat' chipsets
trinque: time to accept that you're a criminal merely by being a thinking person.
☟︎ trinque: I chucked a bit to see that they specifically mention DD-WRT, but I'm not that surprised
ascii_field: i suspect that they are specifically working on abolishing esp8266, etc
ascii_field: 'Actually, this applies to the whole device. The article is wrong that it only applies to the radio. If the device contain a radio capable of acting in the 5GHz band, then firmware Control must be secured for the whole device, even if the parameters for the wireless Communication is locked in hardware. Note that even if you as a device manufacturer can certify in point 2 that the radio itself do contain hardware locks
ascii_field: preventing the firmware from operating the device outside of permitted ranges, the device still needs to comply with firmware security.'
trinque: we're outright banning inventive behavior
trinque: we'll be dead within a decade :p
trinque: well that's understandable isn't it? chemicals are dangerous!
trinque: I hear they're putting chemicals in food
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nanashi_ there isn't any remedial for anything. bitcoin payments are entirely the responsibility of the payer. that's what "be your own banker" means.
ascii_field: 'The FCC specifically cites DD-WRT as an unacceptable modified firmware.'
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is this mean, "unacceptable modified firmware". it's not fucking firmware to begin iwith
shinohai: I must move from the US and expatriate if DD-WRT is outlawed.
ascii_field: Official ban proposed on open source anything in any apparatus containing a radio (5GHz at first, but usg sop camel nose)
ascii_field: (and not simply open source, but anything non-nintendoized)
ascii_field: general-purpose computing has been disappearing for 20 years without so much as a squeak, much less shots ringing out
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this really calls for debug instrumentation that the node in question does not presently have
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 07:29:53; mats: coincidentally Knuth is responsible for this keyword
ascii_field: bitcoin-as-it-is is not really debuggable meaningfully without packet capture. sadly.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 08:28:38; trinque: this v.py is sublime. I've been playing with it for a while.
trinque: The data-structure's *the thing*, and there's nothing obscuring it. Seeing it done that way, obviously it's the right way to do it.
mircea_popescu: trinque sounds like someone from 2030 who discovered that yes the web runs on urls.
mircea_popescu: "but it would be so much better and ~easier~ for the user if the url went away!!11"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15772 @ 0.00068929 = 10.8715 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: truly, just looking at v.py make something quite clear about what this whole "end user experience" thing has caused
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1872 @ 0.00068624 = 1.2846 BTC [-] {16}
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 11:09:29; shinohai: I find Miley Cyrus so absolutely disgusting irl, no need for embellishments.
ascii_field: trinque: i must dourly remind you that what you read was a very hasty and rough piece of work, that needs heavy work - particularly simplification of the graph walker
ascii_field: trinque: it also does not like broken chains, yet
trinque: ascii_field: I'm referring to the theory behind the way it was designed, mostly
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller she also doesn't matter anymore, used to 5 years ago.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 11:20:07; fluffypony: what's the point of titles if they're meaningless
ascii_field: trinque, mircea_popescu, et al: there is another fine point re: 'v' that i'm a little surprised nobody asked about. how it does not distinguish signers from authors. it does not do this because it is physically impossible, other than via deedbot etc., and i am not in the business of promising the impossible.
trinque: ^ certain things are a fine task for some other program
ascii_field: see the discussion of pgp key timestamps some months back
trinque: I think releases are the same thing, just point from elsewhere to designate a release
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's a STEALTH STARTUP
punkman: might be nice to add couple more bits of metadata in vdiffs
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: notice how all seals (signatures) are treated alike.
fluffypony: we don't actually *do* anything, but we're waiting for acquisition
trinque: point inward from elsewhere
trinque: descriptions and shit; we've got hypertext
punkman: ascii_field: say author's fingerprint?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the only timestamps worth anything are deedbot's
mircea_popescu: so you write a song, and play it here. sometime later, i play this song for my hos.
trinque: I briefly thought "what about metadata in the vpatches" then slapped myself
mircea_popescu: define the concept of "author" ; distinguish it fromn the concept of "signator"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: my point was precisely that it is a spurious distinction, and that i do not make it in the system; and that anyone who wants to try to be remembered as the first one to pen a particular patch had better deedbot his signature
mircea_popescu: alrighty. so why would anyone ask you anything about this :)
mircea_popescu: "hey guise, i get no shit for doing things right, my worn out butt is surprised. what is this!"
trinque: well here's something, not having one "working dir" concept, but rather "fart out any chain of patches wherever you like" is exactly right
mircea_popescu: the concept of "who pissed in chlorine first" is very much different from the concept of "who knows how to make never gas"
mircea_popescu: the former's a purely historical interest. the latter's practical.
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 18:52:16; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> how to do signed commits << the barbarian way. everyone who read a patch file (yes) and is willing to sign under it, signs. this gets posted. whoever wants, can apply the patches to get a merged turdball. << i think this is exactly how it should go.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 12:54:31; pete_dushenski: tlp video removed by yt, taleb one still up
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 13:33:07; shinohai: She is the closest thing to smart and sexy I have found in camgirlworld. Some of the reddit sellers are pretty saavy.
BingoBoingo: Apparently wifi rules was pushed out in March? Why suddenly panic now and not then?
trinque: so my ddwrt router is illegal?
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 13:37:23; pete_dushenski: e, providing broadband to a small city, mining for bitcoin -- but I really don’t care!" -john legere, ceo and president of t-mobile
ascii_field: ^ i read their faq thing, very precious. it made me recall the last footnote in mircea_popescu's 'new software license' article
mircea_popescu: which is WAY less than what tyhey are advertising, iu am sure.
mircea_popescu: "we sell people 5mb connections. evil hackers use about 7% of this. american business world ftw!"
ascii_field: standard bezzlatronic reaction to Evil Witches finding some trick for using their dollarz, which were given to them to real-estate-bubblate, to illicitly buy actual solid turkeys
ascii_field: the fraud isn't that they won't give out free bandwidth, but insist on advertising 'unlimited' while in practice entirely opposite
ascii_field: 'eat as much as you want so long as it is not too much by our lights'
mircea_popescu: "unlimited" has for many years meant "enough for your needs if you don't need much", which is finbe.
mircea_popescu: i thought they advertised 20 MBps like my provider in ro or something specific.
trinque: they also make claims about LTE speed
trinque: point is words don't mean shit, and the rules are intentionally arbitrary because "fuck you"
mircea_popescu: as i somehow suspect that rate comes with mbps after a number.
ascii_field: t-mobile ~specifically~ pushes itself as 'we don't have a tonnage limit!!111'
trinque: mircea_popescu: they worm around it with "up to x Mbps"
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> t-mobile ~specifically~ pushes itself as 'we don't have a tonnage limit!!111' << This they advertise X speed for first Y transfer and after that max tonnage at best effort speed
ascii_field: they relied on it being 'smartpNohe only' for the limiter
ascii_field: understanding being that there is nothing bandwidth-heavy to do on a pocket phone
ascii_field: then folks installed openvpn etc on the thing.
ascii_field: suddenly 'you bastards, refusing to use typical sheepNohe, terrorists'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44767 @ 0.0006894 = 30.8624 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9938 @ 0.00069403 = 6.8973 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: mircea_popescu: 753 kbps << 1mbps gets you 320gb/month or so
ascii_field: it is the inevitable fate of kolhoz: when thing is 'free' and shared, suddenly there are 'hogs' and 'freeloaders' and 'decent people'
mircea_popescu: punkman obviously the people in question left a tracker on continuously.
trinque: I called american messaging about a pager... 400 message limit a month then overage, but at least they are up-front about it
ascii_field: trinque: the cap is largely to keep folks from doing things like controlling model airplanes with'em
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you want to PREVENT people from using things
jurov: mircea_popescu: noticed the mpex orders were published, it's safe to resume everything?
ascii_field: which is that there is nowhere near enough capacity for 1% of what was actually bought
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and for that matter, DECENT AMERICANS don't get sick.
trinque expects that his desire to be radio-silent must look terrorist-y to some moron, if he bothered to look
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the market for gold is in the same situation.
mircea_popescu: maybe i should stop being such a terrorist "destabilizing the situation"
trinque: isn't that like these "circuit breakers" at stock exchanges?
ascii_field: 1200+ trips in one day, recently, according to the birdcage liner
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
mircea_popescu: now it's 1200 a day. and all that chewing paste and toothgum is there because they run the fucking bots in java
ascii_field: plus the folks with the official bots need to be kept in cocaine
ascii_field: y'know, the ones who ~issue~ the 1200+ 'stop's
trinque: sea of bullshit, where do you even begin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00069181 = 11.3457 BTC [-]
ascii_field: well yes. but i put it in for a reason, because there are several things which i consider important which presently do not work correctly.
ascii_field: (it is possible to live without them, yes. but folks who try to display a broken flow graph will see ???)
ascii_field: ^ perhaps i ought to explain. picture a patch mid-flow whose seal is annulled (removed, even if temporarily, from .wot)
mircea_popescu: really more a matter of style than anything, your own ml does include your own todo iirc
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 14:36:31; asciilifeform: also there is no selectability of wot or patch subsets, other than by specifying --wot customdir or same for patches, containing desired subset
mircea_popescu: and if one's not happy with this arrangement, one should RESTATE what interests them, under their own sig.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00069181 = 10.1004 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: enforce the right balance between "keep updated!!11" and "fucking fork already" by default.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: can always specify --wot foundation --- dir containing ben_vulpes and mod6 keys only
mircea_popescu: was more talking about the cauise where you want half of x's patches.
ascii_field: anyway thing is made in such a way that operator is forced to remain aware of what patch set he is pressing
ascii_field: and can always cp -r patches patchesprime; rm patchesprime/xxx .....
ascii_field: 'These companies are genuinely trying to do things right, to protect their customers, and prevent their businesses from facilitating criminal activity. We're proud to provide the KYC, fraud prevention, and monitoring technologies these businesses use to identify and prevent suspicious activity, as part of their AML program to comply with U.S. and international regulations.' << l0l!!
ascii_field: can't wait for the usg yottahash mining farm where you need a signature from hitler to get your tx baked into block
mircea_popescu: before that we'll fork it with new pow and better design.
assbot: Let's address some of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1NJeUVD )
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 14:47:57; shinohai: Fuck i hit paywall again and still have no way to purchase credits.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: only provider in this area is stoopid comcast or AT&T
shinohai: No router or anything u can hook anything to
mircea_popescu: my point is, if your email provider is eating your emails, try a different one.
jurov: shinohai you have only one email?
shinohai just realized mircea_popescu meant email
mircea_popescu: yes. iirc that was the problem, you never got the emails yes ?
shinohai: No jurov I actually bothered to make 2 xD
shinohai: that is correct. When I finish this install I got going I'll try to make a new addy
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 16:27:30; pete_dushenski: jurov: b-a pretty much lit the fuse for his conception, at least or so i theorise
trinque: how hard is postfix to set up?
mircea_popescu: some people dun wanna run servers. i know i spent a while deliberately not doing it.
trinque: yeah, I'll admit it's a pain in the ass
jurov: since i happen to manage an email server already, if anyone in the wot is interested, can set up imap box
jurov: no spamfiltering or webmail tho
trinque: shinohai: one of those TP-Link guys will turn a 4g connection into a local hotspot
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 16:34:16; mike_c: that's always a dangerous posture when the baby wakes up and decides to eat
trinque: I have a pile of tp-links; they're ok
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 17:33:11; jurov: unrelated to this, it is kinda rotating mpex.co .bz .ws etc. proxies and *always* at least one is inaccessible due to "Temporary failure in name resolution"
trinque: if so, perhaps nscd would help
jurov: limited to less than one per minute? that would be very bad
mircea_popescu: i have no idea. but yes you're not the only one noticing this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34842 @ 0.00068965 = 24.0288 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 17:50:20; trinque: time to accept that you're a criminal merely by being a thinking person.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53908 @ 0.00068648 = 37.0068 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: perhaps that's overly broad. I understand there to have been a time where one could experiment with radio equipment or do chemistry in their garage without being arrested.
mircea_popescu: because at that time it couldn't have been that you'd do anything useful.
trinque: I could easily see the point that the useful are always dangerous.
mircea_popescu: point being, the two options are either the tyranny of the many against the few, or the tyranny of the few against the many.
ascii_field: my brother made every major type of explosive (in small pieces), we set'em off in little vials buried in the ground at summer house.
mircea_popescu: "but who comes from a country where they own a pony to a non-pony owning country!"
ascii_field: i recently 'google street'-ed the spot where it stood. neither it nor any of the neighbouring cottages remain
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 19:50:10; asciilifeform: my grandfather had a dacha. it did not come with a toilet, so he built one. outhouse thing, but with an actual toilet that flushed instead of the customary shit pit. this is relevant, because:
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10317 @ 0.00069404 = 7.1604 BTC [+]
mats: he does. he devised the construct in C for specific jump calls, and it was adapted into python iirc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00069733 = 16.9103 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: which "archive" now says, "We are working hard to fix all the missing resources at Digital Inspiration. If you need anything urgent, please send me an email at amit@labnol.org."
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 07:47:23; mats: fun fact: The x86 BCD instructions have undocumented support for other bases.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00070306 = 8.7179 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10386 @ 0.00069516 = 7.2199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20614 @ 0.00069005 = 14.2247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12197 @ 0.00068649 = 8.3731 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79925 @ 0.00068402 = 54.6703 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 22:11:52; ascii_field: srsly, 'consensus' ?!
jurov: how is alf's dacha flushing outhouse toilet relevant?
ascii_field: jurov: thread concerned 'times and places hobby chemistry was not yet forbidden'
jurov: thestringpuller: who do you mean by "you"
jurov: i dun see any such niggers around here
ascii_field: prolly one of those things which no one is ever at on his own free will
assbot: Lennart Poettering merged “su” command replacement into systemd: Test Drive on Fedora Rawhide | The Linux Homefront Project ... (
http://bit.ly/1EwE871 )
jurov: $ machinectl shell
jurov: Connected to the local host. Press ^] three times within 1s to exit session.
trinque: "I understand this is confusing and unexpected, but well, that’s UNIX…"
jurov: never stumbled upon "su -"?
jurov: and the x popup is spiffy. 'cuz xterminal can't be trusted with passwords
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00068844 = 4.8191 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00068844 = 9.6382 BTC [+]
punkman: "Next up: Systemd replaces “confusing” unix ls command with new and clean filectl command."
trinque: arsectl shit | mouthctl open
trinque: and really shouldn't the pipe be reimplemented to use dbus?
trinque: meanwhile dbus really should have network connectivity (I'm going out on a limb assuming it still does not)
jurov: trinque i have recently read about it.. apparently it does but you have to disable all access control to use it :D
trinque: jurov: well certainly that's inconvenient.
punkman: trinque: it has been used to exploit a Jeep
trinque: oh is that how they got in?
trinque: and dbus was in the jeep?!
punkman: "A demonstration of the D-Bus problem is the recent Jeep hack by researchers Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek. The root problem was that D-Bus was openly (without authentication) accessible from the Internet."
trinque: dbus is among pulseaudio and other things I neuter the fuck out of my systems
punkman: when is pulseaudio getting merged in systemd
trinque: this must be the singularity they were talking about
trinque: no one can stop the run-away shitification
jurov: then they will merge sql database and go where even microsoft did not dare
trinque: well hell, that CoreOS (which is a breeding ground for systemd nonsense) has etcd
trinque: so not sql, but yes a networked database for config
jurov: registry is already there (via gnome)
trinque: myup gconf, and there's another one I'm forgetting
ascii_field: all this also tastes great ! with a balanced diet of that gui-in-kernel-just-like-microshit that was being pushed to replace x11
punkman: etcd is a distributed k-v store thingy
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 21:35:43; jurov: and pr0nctl
jurov: KEEP THE EARTH WET AT ALL TIMES
trinque: shinohai: glorious... and then I notice the buttcrack tattoo
☟︎ trinque: pornctl deny all from @tattoed
shinohai: ok, lemme find somethin less trashy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00069846 = 20.43 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: dbus needs network connectivity to maintain a list of ddos ips.
mircea_popescu: trinque> well hell, that CoreOS << /me can not help but notice the "core" symbol.
jurov: debian-xt upcoming
trinque: mircea_popescu: kinda gape-y neh?
trinque: ^ openrc is damned fast, for whatever that matters, the boot-per-week or something I do
mircea_popescu: boots 50%^H^H40^H^H18%!!!! faster than anything else. including the things that boot 100x less frequently./
trinque: "this house was built as quickly as possible"
mircea_popescu: trinque the tattoo is not as much of a problem as the bs string. "really needed" because omg
trinque: yeah otherwise indecent huh?
trinque: glorious figure; no faulting her there
trinque: the dumb stars became a trend in the last ten years or so
trinque: least among skanks I've known
trinque: just "yeah I'll take that one too" walmart style
pete_dushenski: "On Feb. 28, Jen Henderson, 23, became the sole registered voter living within the community improvement district, or CID, meaning she is the only person who would vote on a half-cent sales tax increase for the district."
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 19:24:31; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski so you gonna circumcise it ?
trinque: ah come on, what's life without a little compulsory genital modification?
pete_dushenski: the whole point of this b-a/bitcoin experiment is to shoot the fun people in the heads with their own no-so-funny bullets, neh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28950 @ 0.00070285 = 20.3475 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: ascii_field: does make me wonder if the thing's something like "and don't make us come for the rest of it!"
pete_dushenski: " Qntra earlier reported Pierce, replaced Vessennes' as chairman of the now defunct Bitcoin Fundation (note for editor: find something to call it so it's not confused with the real bitcoin) back in April," << calling all cars to the scene
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller "can be viewed here" << missing link ?
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trinque: suggestion: s/Concern was raised of the BIP-101 syndicate when many of their VCs overlapped./That many in the BIP-101 syndicate share VCs is ample cause for concern./
trinque: something like that, sentence is a little weird
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 19:24:31; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski so you gonna circumcise it ?
trinque: Today on Foreskins of the Republic!
trinque: get your own foreskin news broadcast.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 21:44:12; trinque: shinohai: glorious... and then I notice the buttcrack tattoo
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 21:54:24; mircea_popescu: buttcrack tattoos are painful.
ben_vulpes: also, pain! who doesn't like honest signals.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: didja ship 99K with the 100K version string still in or am i misunderstanding something?
mircea_popescu: re s.mg report : that game's actually getting an economy and everything! macro variables visible, a money/goods raport emerges, whatnot
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> thestringpuller "can be viewed here" << missing link ? << fixed link was living in: (text)
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: just started reading. no running without reading.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (the driver of inflation is the circumstance that in any economy, the monetary value of circulating capital and the monetary value of goods sit in a certain, fixed proportion)
mircea_popescu: you can't have a trillion worth of dollars and ten dollar's worth of cake.
mircea_popescu: you conversely can't have a trillion worth of cake and ten dollars in cash.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 23:11:01; ben_vulpes: ascii_field: just started reading. no running without reading.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: thing has many sharp corners and probably one or two outright mistakes.
trinque: it at least didn't take any fingers last night when I fired it up
ascii_field: just reminding folks that this is not (yet) lifesupportquality proggy.
ben_vulpes: things that "professional pythonistas" bitch about all day that impact execution approximately nil.
mircea_popescu: but alf! it takes 85 muscles to hate and only 1 to take it up the as!
mircea_popescu: "shoot without aiming", "taking it up the ass", what the hell's the difference.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1971 @ 0.00068844 = 1.3569 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 21:47:45; assbot: Logged on 03-02-2015 23:43:58; asciilifeform: winnie pooh walks into a butcher's shop, asks 'got mortadella' ? answer, 'sure' winnie pooh draws a submachinegun and spins round, round, round with it, mowing down everything that moves: 'for piiigleet!'
ascii_field: and i shudder to think of 'professional pythonistas' and what they do.
ascii_field: kakobrekla: does the thing get spammed much from the www box ?
kakobrekla: not at all, but i have a process for approving bashes
☟︎ kakobrekla: occasionally i check the buffer and remove the bad ones, the good ones get re-read the next time and when i feel strongly enough about the one waiting the longest i approve a batch, as deep as it goes
kakobrekla: then jurov comes and just clicks approve on everything.
trinque: ascii_field: I'll tell you what a professional pythonista does...
trinque: he tapes various shitty open source modules together for about 1yr, then gets another job
kakobrekla: also often i end up checking the log if the bash can be framed better
kakobrekla: on that note also let it be known i score bashes including links quite low for various reasons
ascii_field: i would offer to help kakobrekla but doubt that i could possibly improve on his process...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00069498 = 5.2471 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: long lines of octothorpes denominate sections, correct?
ben_vulpes: "Memoize" means to store in memory during the course of a run?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: if you are expert with the language, do not hesitate to simplify routines / fix oddities of whatever kind, and post signed revisions...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.0006882 = 6.2626 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: you overestimate my familiarity with the 'art'
ben_vulpes: why i find this amusing is left as an exercise to the logreader.
ascii_field: 'it's not mein department,' said wehrner von braun !
ben_vulpes: anyways, simplify routines/fix oddities/tidy up implies a 'git' style megapatch. u vant it should be engranularized?
ascii_field: clean to your heart's desire. so long as it gets shorter.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00069587 = 21.4328 BTC [+] {2}