ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: where can one turn for a better reading on slave treatment in the period?
Adlai: ben_vulpes: primo, latinam studere
jurov: kakobrekla/lampelina btw, you can remove havelock from bitcoin-assets.com ?
gribble: Enky was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 42 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, 39 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Enky> Hi, thank you
jurov: and bitcoin trading signals, too, i guess
jurov: and add... whoever wants yourself added, let yourself be heard
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << tellingly, this is not the front page of the nyt, wapo adn every single other usg propaganda leaflet. << It made the front page of qntra
jurov: we can bet if this will get "downvoted" or disappeared straight
jurov: and additionally if qntra will get added to /r/politics banned list :D
BingoBoingo: It's a bigger subreddit. Will prolly disappear because qntra is not whitelisted through their payola system
nubbins`: Man Attempts to Purchase Private Key for $2,000 Above Value of BTC Contained Therein
nubbins`: BingoBoingo "Neither party to the lawsuit a part of the government or a contractor"
nubbins`: should read "Neither party to the lawsuit is a part of the government or a contractor"
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021375 B (Total: 467.44 B). Delta: 0.31 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000207 / 0.000207 / 0.000207 (1000 shares, 0.21 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 240050 @ 0.00026016 = 62.4514 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.0002631 = 17.1541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0002631 = 5.3936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57900 @ 0.0002631 = 15.2335 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61800 @ 0.0002575 = 15.9135 BTC [-] {2}
Adlai: aha, "The Romans thought clever slaves were troublesome and a threat"
Adlai: cf "I divide officers into four classes -- the clever, the lazy, the stupid and the industrious. Each officer possesses at least two of these qualities. Those who are clever and industrious are fitted for the high staff appointments. Use can be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy is fit for the very highest commands. He has the temperament and the requisite nerves to
Adlai: deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be removed immediately." - Attributed, circa 1933; General Baron Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord (1878-1943); German Chief of Army Command (1930-33)
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201600 @ 0.0002633 = 53.0813 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82841 @ 0.00026499 = 21.952 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63050 @ 0.00026717 = 16.8451 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: clever, lazy, and stupid, say?
Apocalyptic: nubbins`, from what follows it seems it's exactly 2
ben_vulpes: surely there's a tripartate tradeoff to be made here
nubbins`: Adlai (clever/stupid), (lazy/industrious) but he says all his officers had /at least/ two of the qualities
nubbins`: black, white, hot, cold. pick three :D
Adlai: !s impossible color
mats: i rather like the way de officer training works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165481 @ 0.0002713 = 44.895 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7460 @ 0.00027337 = 2.0393 BTC [+]
mats: us mil incentives for officers is rather broken imo
mats: lotta mustangs (enlisted-to-officer types) get fucked monetarily and often don't pass major/LTC because of the way officers are compelled to go "up or out"
ben_vulpes: goal is to make more plebs dependent on the state, not a greater army.
mats: i wonder how much demand there is for another mpexbot
mats: did the original thing pass orders? or just report the book?
Vexual: hey if i fit all four of general vont kuntzs decriptors, does that neccessitate my immediate removal TO the highest command?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48720 @ 0.00027535 = 13.4151 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115782 @ 0.00027598 = 31.9535 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166499 @ 0.00027525 = 45.8288 BTC [-] {4}
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.59, Best ask: 245.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 245.62, 24 hour volume: 37807.03512289, 24 hour low: 236.24, 24 hour high: 252.0, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67928 @ 0.00027013 = 18.3494 BTC [-]
nubbins`: asciilifeform heh, it's available for raspi. got me reading. a true anomaly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112843 @ 0.00026884 = 30.3367 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: apparently there's a band of weirdos still polishing it
nubbins`: or adults watching 80s cartoons on youtube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100550 @ 0.00026428 = 26.5734 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: spent an enjoyable evening getting a gentoo vm up and running from scratch, in the meantime
decimation: asciilifeform: might as well run it on a 6502 chip :)
nubbins`: meantime, anyone run into this? make: Nothing to be done for 'pogoplug_defconfig'.
nubbins`: nah, dat shiny window manager. running gentoo via virtualbox
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25706 @ 0.00027548 = 7.0815 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00027548 = 13.3883 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66896 @ 0.00027264 = 18.2385 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i might get to it tomorrow night
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00027264 = 5.4255 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, straight plagiarism would require reading source material.
mircea_popescu: i doubt anyone in the usacademia has read anything first hand in the past three decades.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83600 @ 0.00027232 = 22.766 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70534 @ 0.00026587 = 18.7529 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 30-03-2015 01:48:44; Adlai: deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be removed immediately." - Attributed, circa 1933; General Baron Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord (1878-1943); German Chief of Army Command (1930-33)
assbot: Logged on 30-03-2015 03:45:30; mats: did the original thing pass orders? or just report the book?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically, "the protocols of the elders of zion" is not an isolated product, much like the spec of dust that has a light shone on just right isn't the only spec available in the area.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.0002631 = 4.2359 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00026271 = 8.1966 BTC [-]
cazalla: g'evening all.. so what do exactly do i need to access the pogo via serial port?
cazalla: seen a few diff serial cables around so it's all a bit new to me
trinque: I used the net console method without issue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19522 @ 0.00026881 = 5.2477 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00026858 = 11.8444 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18854 @ 0.00027264 = 5.1404 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00027473 = 4.1622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30391 @ 0.0002736 = 8.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88270 @ 0.00027354 = 24.1454 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00026273 = 5.2546 BTC [-]
Vexual: qantas to put highly trained hosties in the cockpit while the pilot takes a piss. Is'nt that what just happened?
Vexual: heck i don't need a piss on a 14 hour flight, the drinks come so slow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46165 @ 0.00026272 = 12.1285 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: just the general form of my prose bb
Vexual: @ventti envoyez plus de trucs gratuits
Vexual: thats why twitter doent work, noone does it
Vexual: id buy yall a coffee, but its better to wake up slowly
thestringpuller: gonna start going to bed as the sun goes down like an old person
Vexual: wise beyond your years i suppose
thestringpuller: I'd rather wake up when everyone is asleep cuz I hate people.
Vexual: thats why i dont drink on nye
Vexual: also i got caught on an instroke with friedcat/havelock
Vexual: i was almost finished too
Vexual: fxkin oriental sex manufacturer dolls
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Still better than the Inuit doll manufcterer sex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72500 @ 0.00025761 = 18.6767 BTC [-]
Vexual: yeah i might stick with camgirls and waterbased
Vexual: ive herad that bearoil gets adulterated with amphetamines eh
Vexual: melbourne to ban smoking in the cbd
Vexual: yes i bought a tv; the foxtel girl never came back, and she left a diamond earring?! wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11485 @ 0.00025761 = 2.9587 BTC [-]
Vexual: why she was selling cable i dunno
Vexual: gap year i can only suppose
Vexual: dumb as shit, musta someone bought em for her
Vexual: prolly working for the govt in france nao
Vexual: head coked to one side
Vexual: that should read cocked
gribble: duffer was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 35 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <Duffer> ya saw earlier today as it happened /wish i had free capital
Vexual: research must be going well
Vexual: does he go by another handle?
jurov: Vexual waitwhat? you fapped to friedcat/havelock using bear oil?
Vexual: no, but i was in for a few bits when he dissappeared
Vexual: well, havelock essentially
jurov: er.. i meant gave up :DDD
jurov cowers before beardoll
Vexual: yeah im kinda broke now
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.98, Best ask: 245.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 245.99, 24 hour volume: 33440.25854513, 24 hour low: 236.24, 24 hour high: 252.0, 24 hour vwap: None
Vexual: where are you from anyay?
Vexual: i know naphex and nano now, but i still cant slovakia slovenia
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85169 @ 0.00026646 = 22.6941 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: i must depart, ive spilt things
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00026935 = 21.7365 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68000 @ 0.00026032 = 17.7018 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49773 @ 0.00026841 = 13.3596 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18895 @ 0.00026032 = 4.9187 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30405 @ 0.00025738 = 7.8256 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110686 @ 0.00025729 = 28.4784 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55450 @ 0.00027147 = 15.053 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7438 @ 0.00025715 = 1.9127 BTC [-]
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00025715 / 0.0002675 / 0.0002812 (4589948 shares, 1,227.82 BTC), 7D: 0.0001443 / 0.0002492 / 0.00028207 (25918080 shares, 6,458.81 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00031363 / 0.0004493 (89667991 shares, 28,122.63 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00020808 / 0.00020865 / 0.00021 (10000 shares, 2.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00020808 / 0.00024784 / 0.00028609 (45159 shares, 11.19 BTC)
funkenstein_: assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. <-- i followed neil young trail, now even more confused
jurov: ah. it's down atm, due to maintenance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19913 @ 0.00025715 = 5.1206 BTC [-]
jurov: funkenstein_: it's done and back online
jurov: interesting you've chosen that exact moment to mention coinbr, it unnerved me a bit :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41830 @ 0.00025715 = 10.7566 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.0002576 = 5.6672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.0002576 = 2.3055 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84748 @ 0.00026307 = 22.2947 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00027419 = 13.5176 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49950 @ 0.00026265 = 13.1194 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16913 @ 0.00026801 = 4.5329 BTC [+]
nubbins`: <+cazalla> g'evening all.. so what do exactly do i need to access the pogo via serial port? <<< any usb-to-serial converter will do. i think mine was "deluxe" and cost $10 from arduino-supply shop
nubbins`: (deluxe in this sense means that it's brightly coloured, has the word "fun" on it)
assbot: Amazon.com: Nextrox® New MAX232 RS232 To TTL Converter/Adapter Module Board: Computers & Accessories ... (
http://bit.ly/1F9BIaO )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30995 @ 0.00027176 = 8.4232 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00026078 = 12.9868 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50500 @ 0.00025994 = 13.127 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00026485 = 1.854 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 29-03-2015 03:30:50; mircea_popescu: did you get wiki editing rights ?
assbot: Logged on 29-03-2015 18:48:34; asciilifeform: nubbins`: notice how nobody here bothered with the 'request unlock' thing or even knows if it ever worked
pete_dushenski: ken shirriff also has a neat piece on the ibm 1401, which were apparently dead reliable, used decimal arithmetic, and were rented for upwards of $10k/mo in 1960. oh the bygone days of computing!
nubbins`: gross, virtual hd ran outta space
gribble: Current Blocks: 349957 | Current Difficulty: 4.671754964470642E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 350783 | Next Difficulty In: 826 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 20 hours, 35 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 50380137909.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.83986
assbot: Logged on 30-03-2015 13:25:06; mod6: ;;later tell funkenstein_
http://dpaste.com/1EP63W5 << this dpaste expired, can you create a non-expiring pastebin for this?
mod6: danielpbarron: got it thanks.
nubbins`: "There is no indication that the incident was terrorism-related."
nubbins`: what they're attempting to say, in different words, is "there is no reason for you, pleb, to feel scared"
nubbins`: with the implication that in the future, when the incident IS terrorism-related, y'all better get scared
nubbins`: i'm as far away from a token canadian as you can get
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54881 @ 0.00026925 = 14.7767 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: Mr. Force, while investigating Silk Road, “stole and converted to his own personal use a sizeable amount of bitcoins,” >> heh
fluffypony: "the name's Force, Carl Force. Carl Mark Force IV."
nubbins`: so maybe someone's come across this before. i created an 8gb VDI disk in virtualbox but ran outta space. so i cloned it into a 15gb dynamically-allocated disk, pointed the vm at the new disk, virtualbox correctly reports the hd as 14gb
nubbins`: but gentoo isn't picking up the change
fluffypony: nubbins`: you need to resize the partition within Linux
nubbins`: yeah, that's where i'm stuck. fdisk /dev/sda reports a size mismatch
nubbins`: says "will be corrected by w(rite)"
nubbins`: but w says fdisk: failed to write disklabel: Invalid argument
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 228 @ 0.0044009 = 1.0034 BTC [+] {3}
gribble: Current Blocks: 349962 | Current Difficulty: 4.671754964470642E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 350783 | Next Difficulty In: 821 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 20 hours, 44 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 50426253807.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.93857
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well, I have another 38 blocks until I can hit publish on the other short piece I put together this morning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00026145 = 17.125 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: hm is persecuted the right word
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Yes. He wanted to opt out of their oppression, but they wouldn't let him.
gribble: wn: persecution n 1: the act of persecuting (especially on the basis of race or religion)
gribble: wn: persecute v 1: cause to suffer; "Jews were persecuted in the former Soviet Union" [syn: {persecute}, {oppress}]
nubbins`: ugh, where are these definitions coming from?
gribble: wn: prosecute v 1: conduct a prosecution in a court of law 2: bring a criminal action against (in a trial); "The State of California prosecuted O.J. Simpson" [ant: {defend}, {represent}] 3: carry out or participate in an activity; be involved in; "She pursued many activities"; "They engaged in a discussion" [syn: {prosecute}, {engage}, {pursue}]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00025865 = 2.496 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Chillum: Prosecute is the wrong word. Lawyers prosecute. Agents persecute.
Chillum: you have to be really stupid to get caught stealing bitcoins
Chillum: but then... government workers
BingoBoingo: But Mr. Mark Force IV is not a member of the bar, so no prosecuting for him.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo persecution is sustained, systematic suffering
nubbins`: i'm not persecuting you if i hold you down and fart on your head.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: You are though if you keep it up for years
mike_c: you know the suffix isn't part of the abbreviated name, right? like bob jones III is just mr. jones.
BingoBoingo: It is my responsibility as media people to frame the discussion
BingoBoingo: That... mike_c I'll have to dig up my AP stylebook...
chetty: what we don't have a b-a stylebook? (rofl)
mike_c: BingoBoingo: see NYT article, they (correctly) just call him mr. force.
☟︎ mike_c: which is funny enough as is :)
mike_c: complaint has been unsealed, perhaps it is available? I'd love to see how many btc they took
mike_c: because if it was actually "sizable".. and they didn't get it back..
☟︎ Chillum: I think if someone has III at the end of their name you just call them Trips
nubbins`: more like Mr. Force Kin, amirite?
BingoBoingo: bitstein: I'll have to give them a re-read.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38450 @ 0.00027452 = 10.5553 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: heh "fuck jim prentice" was 2.4% of the search results leading to contravex
pete_dushenski: recall that he's the premier of alberta who threatened sales taxes
BingoBoingo: So either this thing isn't in Pacer yet, or I've been searching the wrong courts
pete_dushenski: he didn't end up introdocing a provincial sales tax, but last week he re-introduced health care premiums and raised gas taxes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50900 @ 0.00027496 = 13.9955 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: "Tobacco taxes will increase by $5 on a 200 cigarette carton. Liquor markups will increase by 90 cents on a case of beer and 16 cents on a bottle of wine or spirits." << moar tackses
Chillum: glad the stuff I smoke is not taxed
nubbins`: i bought a $15 carton once in japan
Chillum: I live in BC, it is a green market
Chillum: even the cops smoke pot around here
Chillum: the one that dips below the 49th parallel
pete_dushenski: i haven't been to the 'big island' in a while but i have a trip planned to victoria in may
Chillum: When you come to Vic, send me a message. We can 420
thestringpuller: Chillum: you would 420 with a name like Chillum. Lemme guess you smoke out of a Chillum? LOL
Chillum is getting off topic here, but is hanging out in ##stoned
pete_dushenski: ^ if anyone has recommendations of "technologies to avoid for safety, security, and sanity" please to advise
pete_dushenski: it's about time that la serenissima has a list of contraband
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: trying to enumerate badness?
pete_dushenski: of which i grant there are millions, but are bigger fish and smaller fish
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes smartphones yes, others depend on generation
pete_dushenski: unlike windowz, whose suckage doesn't depend on generation
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> well only OpenSSL had heartbleed << The other big SSL implementations had their own flaws unveiled in the following months that essentially accomplished the same insecurity.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: ah i thought there were some "sane" TLS implementations. I don't use it so I can't really speak on it.
ascii_field: 'Federal Agents Who Persecuted Ulbricht Arrested' << for what it's worth, i predicted that bitcoin will help usg fission into men and groups of men with actual, if unofficial - agency (in the philosophical sense)
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: anything made by Apple should be on that list.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Seems to already be happening. Mark Force IV was only flawed by a lack of fissures
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 19:14:19; asciilifeform: ulbricht << unless he's learned to grind rsa in his head, how is this to happen? his jailers will otherwise have the key at their leisure.
thestringpuller: Pretty sure all tech before Dr. Dre's the Chronic 2001 came out is fucked in some way.
nubbins` has a massive chillum somewhere
nubbins`: dat inability to use without a friend
mats: i have a pile of powerpc apple laptops
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller ya, the newer stuff is fucked but not beyond usefulness
nubbins`: <+thestringpuller> lol do all canadians smoke nugs? <<< enough do
pete_dushenski: as long as you can make attacks expensive, newish (not new!) hardware works
pete_dushenski: though i'd be interested to poll b-a'ers as to what hardware they use daily for irc/web
ascii_field recommends that everyone read the Force & Bridges indictment, it is an absolute circus
ascii_field: three-ring circus, with elephants, walrus, cacodaemons.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller right. like web surfing on og lisa or something
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: the implemenation wouldn't be on the level of what most of us are running, but there could be some kind of IRC-like communication. But yea no one wants to run a 1401 for other reasons...
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Any links to where it might be living. Haven't been able to spot it on Pacer.
thestringpuller: i imagine the future a bunch of people running altair 8800 clones in caves to talk to each other in binary XD
ascii_field: if you can extract the text from there, more win
nubbins`: recently upgraded to 8gb ram and a new battery too, breathed a bit of new life
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: amd opterons, 'tyan' board circa '07
pete_dushenski: ascii_field you and mp using amd, mac lusers never had this option
nubbins`: actually had a Tandy 1000 SX stashed at my folks' house until last year
assbot: Well I'm off to prison now! Follow my twitter for tweets from the inside /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash
thestringpuller: ascii_field: I'm just jelly cause I was always too poor to own an opteron machine. I had to stick with the lesser Athlons
nubbins`: ascii_field "tweets from the president"
fluffypony: ascii_field: Shrem is going to the sort of prison where you have Twitter access
ascii_field: thestringpuller: you can probably get same machine that i use every day for less than the cost of a couplea pogos
thestringpuller: ascii_field: you're allowed to tweet from inside federal prison known as "club fed"
ascii_field: sure, if obama goes to prison, one such will be found for him.
nubbins`: i saw a commercial once where martha stewart said she /had to learn how to make creme caramel in the microwave/ while she was in prison
fluffypony: what would be brilliant is if he tweets and then after 3 weeks he goes dark
fluffypony: till he gets released, and he's become this muscle-bound gangsta covered in prison tats
fluffypony: exacting revenge on the government that put him behind bars
nubbins`: fluffypony your advice re: hdd worked
nubbins`: had to use parted instead of fdisk
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: considerably more juice in that one than what i have
nubbins`: i ask because i highly doubt it was a casual choice
thestringpuller: ascii_field: told my buddy about your necessity of ECC ram. his response, "Dafuq he doing? Rocket science? Evil science shit?!?"
nubbins` doubts alf casually purchases anything that manipulates electrons
thestringpuller: pretty sure buying ECC RAM in the future will put you on watch list
nubbins`: did i mention that i saw a cop help someone break into a house earlier?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: thestringpuller well we can't really be more on the 'watch list' then we already are
ascii_field: i will confess that upon first coming to #b-a i was greatly surprised that any of the folks involved with something called 'bitcoin assets' might have any doubts as to the necessity of ecc given that correct computation of a certain answer -actually means your arse-
pete_dushenski: ascii_field before you came along there was probably more blissful ignorance
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu, i think it was, had a term, 'pornwatchingcomputer'
ascii_field: that is to say, a machine where the 'answers' don't actually matter
ascii_field: because so what if it snowcrashes mid-flick, so you have to use imagination, or somethinglikethat
trinque: ascii_field: ah, searched for it, overlooked
pete_dushenski: mebbe someone was trying to sabotage ft meade's magick bitcoin mining op
trinque: nubbins` | with the implication that in the future, when the incident IS terrorism-related, y'all better get scared
ascii_field: trinque: good time to rehash my observation that the only 'decisive' people, as in out-and-out arms against usg - are the schizos, imbeciles, and provocateurs
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pete_dushenski: ascii_field these are various descriptors for 'non-normies'
pete_dushenski: it makes sense that the typical box-checkers and form-fillers would be... typical
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: these are descriptors for the folks who happily buy faux death rays from feds and imprisoned for life, or ram a gate because the voices commanded it
ascii_field: some years ago, when i still worked at [small usg research outpost] we had a 'gatehouse incident.' much commotion and yellow tape, etc. turned out, guard blew own brains out messily
trinque: I expect more crazies to crack in response to "the walls have ears" as time goes on
nubbins`: i recall in 2002 when the G8 summit was being held in canada, i was working in ottawa at fed gov bldg across the street from department of foreign affairs
nubbins`: main entrance walled off w/ concrete blocks and row upon row of zigzagging gates
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nubbins`: i wander over lunchtime to walk inside, armed guard stops me
ascii_field: 'i wanna use the hawaladar, let me through' probably would not work
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ascii_field: and nubbins` must have left his turban at home that day.
nubbins`: protip to protestors: wear a polo shirt
nubbins`: incidentally, the only sign of protest i saw the entire day was "McMurder" spray painted on the plywooded McDonald's on Rideau
nubbins`: (in addition to the plywood coverings, it was also deemed prudent to cover the McD's-branded awning with a tarp)
trinque: I am surprised at how quickly "not terrorism related" gets stamped on the event
trinque: is the purpose there to avoid "legitimizing" the existence of US-born malcontents?
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ascii_field: ^ describes, among many other lulz, how one of the most damning acts of mr force was to encourage dpr to use pgp
ascii_field: and contains howlers like 'the entire point of PGP software is anonymity'
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ascii_field: subpoenas without legal authority? check. involvement of main detectives in btc scamming -check..
ascii_field: makes the original ulbricht accusation look like a total snorefest
mircea_popescu: check out that crazy mp saying the usms thing was fraudulent!
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they don't admit -all of it- having been pinched
mircea_popescu: check out that crazy mp telling sec to back up its supoenas in writing.
ascii_field: read the damn thing, prepare to pick yourself up from floor
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i will be forever grateful if qntra breaks with the general trend in the "press" and actually points out that MP knew this months ago.
ben_vulpes: > froze a coinmkt account and transferred it to himself
mircea_popescu: also it's prosecuted not persecuted, unless intentional.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> also it's prosecuted not persecuted, unless intentional. << Totally intentional. Preet prosecuted, thugs merely persecuted. With pogroms and fake assassinens
mircea_popescu: good thing they got the conviction through BEFORE saying these people were felons
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mircea_popescu: that way they don't have to explain to the judge why the testimony of convicted felons should be taken seriously.
BingoBoingo: Also this is why the Maryland murder for hire thing couldn't be tried
mircea_popescu: now let's see the da that KNEW THIS and made this call prosecuted under rico.
mircea_popescu: it's not like the guy in charge didn't KNOW what was happening.
mircea_popescu: he knew, lied to the judge - which is enough for disbarment, and broke half the laws in the book, which is enough for 20 to life.
mircea_popescu: especially as he conspired with others to do so, who idem 20 to life.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i will be forever grateful if qntra breaks with the general trend in the "press" and actually points out that MP knew this months ago. << perhaps you want to take this one on? My venom sacs are running low after the disappearing lawsuit and this happening.
mircea_popescu: because no, i won't be impressed or satisfied with a coupla muppet heads cracked open.
ascii_field: pigs will fly, and above speed of light too, before this is prosecuted.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: the crime was not giving the privkeys to the bossman, if i read correctly
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes in the system they live in, this is a crime.
ben_vulpes: "i was afraid of offending if I sent too little and looking foolish if i sent too much."
ben_vulpes: yeah, this is just the guy who got *busted* for operating SR.
ben_vulpes: it boggles the mind that Force got DPR using gpg.
ben_vulpes: mats: der, but for himself, force, dpr?
ben_vulpes: "additional pieces of circumstantial evidence prove that FORCE is "French Maid." Both "French Maid" and Force (operating as "Nob") used the exact same brand of PGP software,a feww brand called GnuPG. There are different brands of PGP software, so it is noteworthy that both FORCE (operating as "Nob") and "French Maid" used the same brand."
ben_vulpes: look at them flail, trying to apply their old tactics of identity discovery to the new world.
ben_vulpes: "they also both used the same outdated version of that software 1.4.12"
ben_vulpes: "...the outdated version that both "French Maid" and FORCE (as Nob) used is more of a "signature" given the greater number of versions available."
chetty: omg, we all log on to b-a, must be the same person
ben_vulpes: there is only one kind of signature that can prove identity in this marvelous world where grownups use crypto.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: ever sit on a jury in usa? recall what it was like ?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: they don't let real humans actually sit.
ben_vulpes: how hard did you work to get through voire dire?
ascii_field: was a petty theft case but very instructive
ben_vulpes: what is it with you and self flagellation with the usg scourge
ascii_field: anyway, this crud is not intended to prove anything to jury, but to the defense attorney
ascii_field: namely that he should tell his client to plead
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ben_vulpes: for the record, the gpg.conf flag that excludes versions is 'no-emit-version'
jurov: "both perps had version string disabled, hence same person "
BingoBoingo soliciting pieces of force case. So many stories here can probably publish multiple takes.
jurov: i have put it into phuctor, found nothing
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nubbins`: well. they sell nice coins. i doubt they mint 'em domestically
nubbins`: last couple of gifs show the masterminds
ascii_field: everyone who loaded BingoBoingo's original link, reload
nubbins`: what the fuck is kim dot com's problem
mike_c: goddamnit, i need a new printer. any recommendations? i want scan, print, and print pictures of my kid (nothing professional needed).
trinque: nubbins`: what's your grip with him?
mike_c: shopping for a printer feels like swimming through a swamp for some reason.
nubbins`: mike_c if you want an all-in-one, i can't help ya
nubbins`: i can recommend a nice printer setup tho
mike_c: yeah, i figured you'd be too high end. you don't have any workaday favorites?
mike_c: how bout brand in general? HP/canon/etc?
nubbins`: i'll never buy anything but epson
nubbins`: in fairness, the epson 1430 is really nice, 13" wide-format, and it's probably only like $200-250usd right now.
mike_c: well they don't make home laser color printers i don't think
nubbins`: ascii_field that's my next step
nubbins` pays $50usd for 32oz of printer ink
ascii_field: does the ink still run when you sneeze on the page ?
mike_c: oh yeah, look at that.
nubbins`: ascii_field is right tho, color lasers are ubiquitous and cheap. you can get one for around the same price.
nubbins`: ascii_field that's a function of the paper 8)
mike_c: i know little to nothing about this.. is toner cheaper than ink?
nubbins`: mike_c name-brand toner is cheaper than name-brand ink
nubbins`: off-brand ink is cheaper than off-brand toner
ascii_field: nubbins`: function of the paper? if the ink is water-soluble, and it gets in - how will it not also get out, when wetted again ?
mike_c: i have had mixed success with chinese knockoff ink cartridges, and have a suspicion they have led to the death of my current printer..
nubbins` admittedly does little "photo printing", and is more concerned with laying down as much ink as possible
nubbins`: but the CIS kit i have supplies a constant flow of very inexpensive, high quality ink
nubbins`: i'm also not convinced that home color laser beats inkjet for image quality
nubbins`: text, you'd be a fool to use an inkjet
nubbins`: images, well, stop sneezing 8)
ascii_field: nubbins`: image quality - seems quite likely
ascii_field: afaik colour laser was never well-regarded by artistic types
jurov: yes, color laser is poor for photos
nubbins`: i actually took a loss on a job a while back because i priced it for color laser prints and they weren't up to snuff
nubbins`: not a loss on ink/toner costs, mind you, but a loss on time
nubbins`: incidentally, some of you may be interested to know, epson is the only home printer mfg that has printheads that can deliver variable amounts of ink
ascii_field: i found a very, very fast tractor-feed (!) early '90s inkjet in a skip once, as a kid
ascii_field: quality was about on par with ancient typewriter and then leave document in the sun for a decade or three
nubbins`: regular inkjet: heating element rapidly boils ink inside cart, steam bubble forces ink out through aperture
nubbins`: epson inkjet: voltage applied to piezo element
nubbins`: mechanical propulsion, voltage-controller
ascii_field: i had this notion that all modern inkject machines use piezos
nubbins`: epson's the only one using it as a rule
nubbins`: you'll rarely see others try it
nubbins` owns third-party printer drivers that allow him to control -- among other things -- voltage to piezo
nubbins`: also does postscript emulation which is nice for printing halftone dots from greyscale images.
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nubbins`: approx. 1.5x the cost of the actual printer
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mike_c: any thoughts on 5 color inkjet vs 3 color?
nubbins`: generally 5+1 (yellow, cyan, light cyan, magenta, light magenta, black) will give you truer light tones
nubbins`: and you really, really should consider getting one of those CIS kits, it'll pay for itself in a year
mike_c: I like the thought of that a lot.. and it may be practical given wireless (so i can put the whole thing in a closet somewhere).
jurov: i've had epson stylus in early 00's and it was spawn of evil, with golden toilet refills
jurov: and when i bought cheaper ink, found out the cassettes can really be refilled only once anyway
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jurov: dunno if inkjets got better since
mike_c: oh cool, cobra ink will sell you the printer with cis installed already
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> afaik colour laser was never well-regarded by artistic types << not even on wood.
nubbins`: mike_c it will, but it's worth comparing costs
nubbins`: mircea_popescu that was monochrome lazer 8)
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mircea_popescu: dude if i was going to put everything in i'd be there for a week.
nubbins` has been pickling daikon radishes in rice vinegar for the past 3 months, will consume this evening
mircea_popescu: ironically enough, the usms scammer thing which is how i even got started also doesn't seem to have made it in.
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mike_c: it looks like some kind of odd orange.
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ascii_field: 'In summary, for the nearly two year period before FORCE worked the Silk Road case, FORCE deposited a total of approximately $250,000 into his bank accounts, an amount consistent with his federal salary. In contrast to that, the bank records show that in the just over two-year timeframe from FORCE's joining the Silk Road case to his May 2014 resignation, FORCE deposited approximately $776,000 into his bank accounts, an
ascii_field: amount that represented solely his liquidation of bitcoins.'
ascii_field: one of the few things usg is demonstrably good at is sniffing out unexpectedly fattened cattle to butcher.
ascii_field: fact is, if this ever goes to trial (unlikely) - the moron will be asked 'where did you get it'
ascii_field: and will stammer and blither in front of the jury, or cough up some outlandish 'martian' alibi
punkman: heh "FORCE functioned as the de facto Chief Compliance Officer for CoinMKT all the while employed as a DEA agent, even allowing himself to be featured in CoinMKT's "pitch decks" to venture capital investors and allowing himself to be listed as CoinMKT's anti-money laundering and/or compliance officer"
punkman: also "FORCE used his official position as a DEA agent to illegally run criminal history checks on individuals for the benefit of a third-party digital currency exchange company, CoinMKT, in which FORCE had personally invested approximately $110,000 worth of bitcoin."
punkman: I thought assbot didn't have state
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nubbins`: havelel is manually processing withdrawals
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nubbins`: BingoBoingo make the link point to the main page maybe?
nubbins`: and a comma after incidentally
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: fxd, that one I really should have had time to self proofread better, but DEAlulz
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jurov: "Replying from my cell, please forgive any typos." O.o
jurov: prolly meant cellphone, tho
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> havelel is manually processing withdrawals << FIRST EVER!