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ben_vulpes: i'm just going to grieve this beer: http://signage.showprg.com/GHC2017/day.php?number=4
ben_vulpes: there are some gems in october 5th as well
ben_vulpes: > effective, sustainable, and diverse search engine optimization
ben_vulpes: WAT
shinohai: "BORG" lol
mircea_popescu: joecool "talking about bitcoin, even in a group, does not..." etc.
mircea_popescu: im sure there's some poor africans in a center for businessmen "owing" each other trillions in notional btc as we speak, what's to keep 'em.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6, all interested in the evolution of Pizarro's corporate structure please to review http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request
mircea_popescu: people tend to (stupidly) eschew taking photos of the important moments of their life, and then many years later they're left with meaningless albums of circumstantial bullcrap irrelevant to them.
mircea_popescu: it's a sad fate to ~act out~ your own life, of all things.
ben_vulpes: sure. i'd hate to lose your custom or his capitalization over what seems to me a trifle whose import i do not understand in the context of the isp.
mircea_popescu: i'm going out on a limb here. i get to say what are teh trifles.
ben_vulpes: poor word choice on my part.
mircea_popescu: why's it anything on your part anyway ?
ben_vulpes: i worry it'll wreck a thing i value and have put some sweat into for reasons beyond my ken.
mircea_popescu: and if it does, it does you the great favour of rescuing the future you'd have poured into something that, in the cold light of day, wasn't worth it.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request << There is a crisis of faith, and the request is for an act of good faith in addressing the crisis.
hanbot: imo trinque's insight the other night applies here also: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784548☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 20:21 trinque: this thing doesn't need any more chatter; let the parties working work, and see what comes of it.
mod6: Evenin', just catching up here..
mod6: Alright, one thing that can be cleared up imho: "asciilifeform will pay for the ticket out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
mod6: Possible change to: "asciilifeform will pay for BingoBoingo's plane ticket home out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
mod6: Just being a bit more clear on that part.
mod6: Question 1: Will the foundation receive any shares for it's 1 BTC contribution?
mircea_popescu: sure, when bonds convert, same as everyone
mod6: Question 2: Where will the shares be issued? Or are they simply just to remain non-transferrable and a line item on the AN0 sheet?
mircea_popescu: wherever it feels like neh ?
mod6: Question 3: From the language of part, it sounds like asciilifeform, mod6 and Both Co-Chairs can each appoint one board member. A total of three board members will exist. Can an elected/appointed board member give up his seat at any time for another person? Or if not is the term of the board seat for the existance of the entity?
mod6: "asciilifeform, mod6, and the chairmen of The Bitcoin Foundation will each appoint one board member, hire ben_vulpes to manage Pizarro, and hire BingoBoingo to perform remote hands labor."
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> sure, when bonds convert, same as everyone << Sounds fine to me.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wherever it feels like neh ? << Ah ok.
mod6: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, any one else, feel free to weigh in on any of my Q's here.
mircea_popescu: mod6 traditionally board membership changes are voted by the board.
mod6: Ah, alright. Maybe there should be a line in there about that, and perhaps unanimous decision required. Or something of the kind.
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for your guidence here.
mod6: Question 4: Where should mod6's and asciilifeform's, and whatever remaining Bitcoin Foundation funds be sent? Do we need a public address to pay these to?
mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ?
mod6: (That's all I've got for now, other than those things, looks pretty good to me ben_vulpes. Nice work!)
mod6: mircea_popescu: That might be something for us to consider, I do believe that ben_vulpes said he would handle this himself, at least for now. I guess there no reason why one couldn't be brought on later if the labor involved in that becomes to great for the operations manager.
ben_vulpes: mod6: be so kind as to comment on the post, my good man
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-20#1785233 << http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784554 << treasurer still wanted, but i'll do the duties if nobody steps up; actually strikes me as a core responsibility of the manager of a bitcoin company☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-20 04:12 mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 21:13 ben_vulpes: i would also like to deposit these funds with a non-involved individual to seal in blood the capitalization of this entity
mircea_popescu: certainly for low sums like this
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: be so kind as to comment on the post, my good man << alright, cool.
mod6: I'm finding it hard to paste my things into there.
mod6: I'll link my questions in #pizarro.
mod6: I'm gonna try again with a different browser.
mod6: Alright, success.
shinohai: trinque: plz to check my deedbot tx when you awaken and ensure I didn't bork something? Thank you.
shinohai: !!up freetlas
deedbot: freetlas voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: dude srsly, ban evasion ?
shinohai: wups
mircea_popescu: schmuck will actually take the time to boot off a different interface, will however NOT take the time to address why he got banned in the first place.
mircea_popescu: that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way.
shinohai: lolz
mircea_popescu: argentina, too.
shinohai: Ghehehe, Google "Hanno Bock" and http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ is still in top 5 results :)
mircea_popescu: sure ; meanwhile consider this : the article the fetlife bot keeps linking to the fetlife tards ISNT in the top 20 of the month.
mircea_popescu: ie, people don't read anything anyway.
mircea_popescu: the sum total of "internet users" from the "informatrion superhighway" who sat down at any point since 2016 going "hmm... i wonder what my opinion of this hanno bock character should be. let's do some research..." is, rounded to the closest integer, zero.
shinohai: I don't think people do any actual research anymore tbh.
mircea_popescu: and it shows ; google has become, steadily but acceleratingly, worthless for research. i pointed this out, but the sum total of pantsuit complaints, summed again to the closest integer, is also zero.
shinohai always rather enjoyed it, sort of a treasure hunt of facts if you will.
mircea_popescu: you'd think someone'd notice if a tool they actually used went away.
mircea_popescu: but... they didn't use it, and it doesn't work anymore, and they're quite happy together.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/having-dumped-dratel-ulbricht-continues-facing-grim-trial-aftermath/ << Qntra - Having Dumped Dratel Ulbricht Continues Facing Grim Trial Aftermath
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way. << "expert beginners"
trinque: shinohai: nothing wrong, just wait time can be up to 24hrs, and yesterday was busybusy. I'll get to ya this morning.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/20/eucrypt-corecting-error-in-oaep-check/ << Ossasepia - EuCrypt: Correcting an Error in OAEP Check
shinohai: ty trinque
mircea_popescu: diana_coman is that like the first ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, the first error I find in my published code, yes; there was the mpi error I corrected, previously
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: well... mazel tov
diana_coman: lol! at least I ...found it
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/20/building-a-life-in-montevideo/ << Bingo Blog - Building A Life In Montevideo
phf: PSA: btcbase is going to be down for half hour, tomorrow 2018-02-21 sometime between 19:00 to 20:30
phf: err, that's UTC
mod6: thanks for the notice phf
mod6: hey hey
shinohai: \o/
shinohai: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11675.0, vol: 12824.84684660 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11685.0, vol: 54266.38668092 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11692.3, vol: 6985.13475618 | Volume-weighted last average: 11683.957063
mod6: nice :]
shinohai: ty mod6, some semblance of normalcy returns.
mod6: wy
mod6: *yw
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2016/capi/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - capi
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2016/hello/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - HELLO
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2016/wp-content-for-a/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - wp-content for a.
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2016/as-from-ccl/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - applescript from clozure
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vdiff-fixes/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - vdiff fixes
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2018/coppa-airlines-baggage/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - Copa Airlines baggage policy
BingoBoingo: In today's rereadings, courtesy the trilema front page http://trilema.com/2015/gerald-davis-is-wrong-heres-why/
mircea_popescu: !!balance
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DANyW/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: speaking of, what's teh eta on history look like trinque ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/dentist-with-a-view/ << Trilema - Dentist with a view
shinohai: So BingoBoingo .... no word on teh scoop yet?
BingoBoingo: From joecool, nada
BingoBoingo: !!Up ag3nt_zer0
deedbot: ag3nt_zer0 voiced for 30 minutes.
ag3nt_zer0: hello BingoBoingo and Trilema
BingoBoingo: Hello, sup?
ag3nt_zer0: how goes it? just came across the unsettling news...
ag3nt_zer0: i'm not hip to the details. is it still desirable to get trb nodes up?
trinque: mircea_popescu: oughta be able to get that out this weekend.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: what kind of question is that?
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: What troubling news? TRB still exists, and management of the ISP development in a transition process http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5
ag3nt_zer0: encountering this problem here installing packages required for GNUGPG ubuntu install. telling me i need for instance libgcrypt to build this program, when libgcrypt was the first one i configured - perhaps I was supposed to tell it where to configure? sorry no pastebin i am on another computer here...
trinque: dude, no more "this is stuff they talk about" word salad
trinque: did you have a trb question, a gpg question, indigestion, what
shinohai: ag3nt_zer0: best bet is to simply nuke the Ubuntu gpg and build from sauce.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: hi. they were connected. if trb nodes are still being desired, i am trying to set one up. i am trying to install GNUGPG on the linux machine so i can verify trb sigs. and i keep getting this problem described above
trinque: what is this "still being desired"? do you not follow the logs?
shinohai: (Likely you have gpg2 which will not function correctly)
ag3nt_zer0: shinohai: trying to build from scratch here
ag3nt_zer0: shinohai: 2.2.4
shinohai: ^
shinohai: Will not work, try gpg 1.4.10
trinque has other things to do, but consider. used to beat people for not doing their six months of logs reading.
ag3nt_zer0: ok
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: you've been coming by for how long, and what have you produced?
trinque: you know how to search. these threads probably number in the hundreds by now.
mod6: ag3nt_zer0: shinohai has it. no gpg2.
mod6: let us know how it goes after you get 1.4.x
mircea_popescu: a great.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you keep doing this number whereby you drop by now and again to expose us to your magnificently solipsist persona.
mircea_popescu: we don't give a shit about your persona. for one thing it's not even remotely acceptable, let alone cool.
mircea_popescu: either fix yourself to fit in or else stop bothering to come by, because the next time you do one of these ima just block you.
mircea_popescu is getting intolerant of the whole punkmanist/indiancandy style "o hey, maybe they forgot?!"
BingoBoingo: It'll prolly be a while till the USD downmarch shakes out the whole "remember we showed up once X years ago" crowd.