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deedbot: dorion rated BingoBoingo 7 << not afraid to confront and strengthen his weak arm. writes at bingology.net ; editor of qntra.net ; though Pizarro failed, he handled the liquidation well.
mod6: I find it fairly easy to go and dig stuff up in there if I need to do so. I tried to stand it back up, several times, in fact, since it's home on Pizarro went down. But I haven't been successful there. Upon speaking to jurov about it, he suggested instead that we create a bot for this purpose instead.
BingoBoingo: I'll work on cranking up the outreach now that Pizarro's dead, buried, and done. Last month I made an effort to bring the 'bicycle guy' who'd been doing Pizarro liquidity into the WoT. We met up a few times to talk Bitcoin and Republic, and the evils of socialism. He kept expressing interest, but around the New Year he went silent. I suspect spawnweight and nagwife did him in.
BingoBoingo: Evening. Mocky I have a backup of your materials that were hosted at Pizarro.
mp_en_viaje: there's at the very least some basis for this, such as a "is user entirely harmless or potentially harmful". user eminently harmful on pizarro, couldn't afford luxury to ignore negrates for instance.
mp_en_viaje: practice's been evolving multipliy, eg, people got booted off pizarro if negrated ; we never gave a shit / booted nobody off eulora for same (iirc).
trinque: you may recall me getting similarly loud before pizarro crashed.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-isp-closing-statement/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Pizarro ISP Closing Statement
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-07 20:15:41 BingoBoingo: Breaking down the Pizarro disks we discovered... Some platters don't shatter
BingoBoingo: Breaking down the Pizarro disks we discovered... Some platters don't shatter
deedbot: Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.0001362 << Auction service for Pizarro: years 2018 and 2019
mircea_popescu: also thinking things through, now that pizarro's no more there's prolly no real point to that.
BingoBoingo: Asia's delivered some fast, but dumb. I am beginning to suspect folks with heads in the DC space may have moved to doing the POP in a bunch of other people's buildings thing Pizarro was intended to grow into.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1069 has ENDED: Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable. SOLD to asciilifeform for 1mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068 has ENDED: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to jfw for 1mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 1mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:56.904013 UTC (8 hours 49 mins)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, "As documented on this blog, undertaking the remains of Pizarro has continued, as documented on this blog."
BingoBoingo: Rockchip 0.08691609 + Shared 0.018 on http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-isp-pre-closing-statement/
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: pizarroisp.net shows a lot of warrnings/errors spew.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1069: Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable. Heard: 1mn from asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:12.652465 UTC (83 hours 53 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 100 from asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:56.904013 UTC (84 hours 0 mins)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:59:49 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/#comment-1505 << Proposal for the auction of your hardware.
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 4 days, 8 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/#comment-1505 << Proposal for the auction of your hardware.
BingoBoingo: Photo preview of the merchandise, once again lives here
auctionbot: Sell order # 1069 created by BingoBoingo: Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable. Opening: 1mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:12.652465 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 1mn 168 Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068 created by BingoBoingo: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 100 ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:56.904013 UTC (167 hours)
BingoBoingo: !Xsell 100 168 Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auction-preview-photos/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Pizarro Liquidation Auction Preview - Photos
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/#comment-1505 << Proposal for the auction of your hardware.
BingoBoingo: trinque: I can go really low, see how little I'm valuing the switches at http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/
BingoBoingo: If you would like, I can auction your chassis on the same basis I'm auctioning the Pizarro servers.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/bingoboingo-after-pizarro-plans-through-end-2019/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- BingoBoingo After Pizarro - Plans Through End 2019
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Pizarro Liquidation Auctions Proposal
BingoBoingo: Proposed Pizarro auctions will be published in a few hours with the aim of firing off auction opening commands Friday. Auction opening prices will be done with the reserve as the coin I, personally, am willing to pay for ownership of the auctioned items and lots of items.
BingoBoingo: ^ Pizarro Pre-closing statement has been published. Please submit questions, comments, suggestions, objections, etc soon, but after reading
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/11/05/pizarro-isp-pre-closing-statement/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Pre-Closing Statement
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-isp-pre-closing-statement/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Pizarro ISP Pre-Closing Statement
BingoBoingo also stood up the Pizarro www to assist checking the archaeology which is at the stage for checking instead of further digging.
BingoBoingo going to have to sleep before publishing Pizarro accounting. On the plus side receipts I had placed in a weathered envelope labeled "Keep" have finally been found in a pristine, unlabled envelope. There will be a paddling.
mod6: A bunch of different things: Looking at some options for work for next year, Q1 I think. Working on a whole parade of home-related repairs/upgrades. Following on and trying to help/give advise where I can re: Pizarro. Working on getting some of my blog posts re-posted. Spent a bit of time trying to get the Foundation's ML back working -- since I had a bunch of trouble with that, I've since just posted th
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, mod6 asciilifeform ^ by above item i'm to take receipt of 0.9 btc from someone there ; what's the status of pizarro liquidation ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-01 01:23:32 trinque: mod6: I have made provisions to work around the loss of my pizarro node, yes.
trinque: mod6: I have made provisions to work around the loss of my pizarro node, yes.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, so the inventory of pizarro in #pizarro, asciilifeform 's self-penned philippicae, in #asciilifeform and so on
mp_en_viaje: i dunno why all this herpy-derp anyways, wasn't s.nsa interest in pizarro a btc or thereabouts ? what's all the hw wank ?
BingoBoingo: http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/ << Updated with requested photos
mp_en_viaje: do you recall that time he managed to sabotage phd's attempted pizarro carrier run ?
BingoBoingo: It is one of these sort of suspicions http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/#footnote_0_3068
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 23:50:28 feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Preliminary Inventory Of Items Once Hosted By Pizarro And Presently In My Care
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Preliminary Inventory Of Items Once Hosted By Pizarro And Presently In My Care
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The lesson of this month is that the non-performance of the derps in the basement didn't have to be a fatal blow to Pizarro. Our failures to sell and find some leverage in the selling by expanding the l2, created the conditions that turned into into a coup de grace.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, mp always remembers it; he's been so far the exception though ( I had to ask for the fp from pizarro; I had to ask for it from mivocloud etc); still unclear how is this detailed account relevant but anyways.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: and if it's not clear, this is not about my rk, the tiny-worth, no; it's mainly because I really don't want to move about s.mg servers again, it's been quite an intense week that post-pizarro implosion one.
mod6: Maybe we can get them to the table and we can negociate something better for us. I guess, worst case, pizarro ends up paying the remaining money.
mod6: I'd like to see pizarro save some money on the total $11,340 that would normally owe through the end of the contract, since yea, from what I've read in here, seems like they've screwed us over.
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946774 << indeed, and exactly what I was driving at. zombie pizarro and the uy-IT-bois are making coy noises that sound like the beginnings of a contract enforcement suit. I'm saying scare them now, head it off, and cut rope.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:30:57 diana_coman: trinque: are you saying that "I watched pizarro failing because they didn't bring people in the wot; so not worth dev the wallet because not enough people in wot" ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.
mp_en_viaje: i would certainly not mind it being baked, and i dunno, i'd have thought the pizarro history shewed clear enough i also don't mind people doing things on their own at all. you can make it if you want, that's not an issue. but you won't be able to make it as things stand, not anymore than you'll make a useful electric car. a central needed thing's not there.
mp_en_viaje: or if not, let's dispose of the raisins first. what is your beef with the pizarro folk, they lost their own money, being derpy. you donated them some boxes, iirc
diana_coman: trinque: are you saying that "I watched pizarro failing because they didn't bring people in the wot; so not worth dev the wallet because not enough people in wot" ?
mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.
mp_en_viaje: i see. ok, so what'd the charge be for the building of two clones of the smg machines + 1 clone of the pizarro shared server and for a year's hosting ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's going to need the mechanized contact churner Pizarro never got. Even doing this in the reich with cheaper cages and more fiber, the thing has to grow to survive.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I'm really in no hurry re pizarro but since there's the talk re how much for the s.mg servers and so on - is there some concrete plan on how will this and all the rest be determined to tidy it all up?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 09:50:40 mp_en_viaje: in the end i suppose whether build new or buy pizarro's comes down to what it costs. what does pizarry want for the two boxes used to run smg servers before ?
mp_en_viaje: in the end i suppose whether build new or buy pizarro's comes down to what it costs. what does pizarry want for the two boxes used to run smg servers before ?
mp_en_viaje: the problem of pizarro was, 100%, your joint an' several failure to build it a customer base.
mp_en_viaje: to be perfectly clear, nfi why this keeps gettting forgotten, and thereby needs to be reiterated : the problem of pizarro was NOT!!!! anything even vaguely or remotely similar to "general staff in same trench". in part because eg, i resisted moving trilema whenever you asked, in part because trinque similarily, and so on. we had EXCELLENT partition of services, and principally because you weren't involved with doing it.
mp_en_viaje: wtf are they thinking it's anyone's guess (besides, of course, the fact that they've all been pizarro-ing the bed, the usercount has been dropping for 2 decades now, while the internet has been growing)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: for one thing I did not own any irons with pizarro; for the other, I seriously doubt it's cheaper because of the import whatever.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 04:43:50 mp_en_viaje: then will systematically eschew building relationships for 1-2-3y however long this lasts, through combination of above-examined "dependopotamacy" in your head, natural shyness and paranoia, and assorted other warts ; then when they implode it'll be pizarro all over again, no options and no clue.
mp_en_viaje: then will systematically eschew building relationships for 1-2-3y however long this lasts, through combination of above-examined "dependopotamacy" in your head, natural shyness and paranoia, and assorted other warts ; then when they implode it'll be pizarro all over again, no options and no clue.
mp_en_viaje: there won't be a yes/no until there's a specific list of what pizarro actually proposes.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945586 << the question keeps shifting, seeing how originally discussion was re coupla servers, not 28 fgs. in any case, the answer was then just as what is now : nsa will take .9 btc as it's owed in either cash or some other thing of equal value, for pizarro's convenience.
mod6: Ah, ty. Yeah, and if Pizarro paid in the form of debt, then the debt will be paid in coins.
mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945550 << In my opinion, Pizarro is done, and should be liquidated. Whatever the next isp-like-item that comes up should be a new thing of its own.
BingoBoingo: Update on anyserver. Currently recreating accounts for Pizarro shared hosting users whose blogs have not been brough back online. Due to the differences in where Pizarro's shared 'UY1' and this 'anyserver' live I will not be uploading any user files beyond authorized_keys unless doing so is explicitly requested.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940120 << is this when pizarro became inaccessible ? or more like late 3rd ? i seem to recall
mp_en_viaje: but is now in the record, i do believe original item did exist, pizarro didn't end up plugged out of thin air.
mp_en_viaje: re the ddos thing of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944835 : i believe it likely ~same dork who started original pizarro troubles ; whatever birthday hundy his mommy gave him was enough for occasional 2Gbps bursts, sub-minute in length, and otherwise 4-5Mbpm sustained over a few mins, and otherwise whole fuel tank good for ~half a day or so.
mp_en_viaje: pizarro failure hurts not merely technologically, but also custodianly.
mp_en_viaje: i'm sorry that emergency continuation required you to leak most of the ip you built for pizarro.
BingoBoingo received a response http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=ASca Note 1. In some of the useless graphs they shared, it appeared IPs outside the pizarro range though inside the latech range had been targeted. Note 2. All that had been said before with respect to CenturyLink is that CenturyLink wasn't answering inqueries from either Dedicado or CenturyLink
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944931 << i didn't sign up for pizarro service for a coupla years. i singed up for permanent, and built business around that assumption/
mp_en_viaje: i had no objection to the run -- and paid for it ; pizarro failed. the expectation that this may be sustained in the general will need more bones and tears than mere "oh, socialism good idea poorly applied" level nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: this is certainly worth checking to exhaustion, because, obviously (and if not obviously, stated above), pizarro's failure is not merely a business matter, but also has serious intellectual repercussions.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, as far as any practical concern goes, we owned pizarro just fine. ownership is not the problem ; but customization puts undue power in the hand of the "Craftsman", who will imediatelly turn around to fuck you over.
diana_coman: 4. previously, with pizarro, BOTH servers essentially ran on very specific, alf-made hardware + system
mp_en_viaje: the pizarro irc isp suite'd have been quite useful right now, "here, use this"
mp_en_viaje: not like pizarro wrote itself one, for all the aferations of intensive care etc.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 00:02:27 BingoBoingo: "Server for sale, in Uruguay" seems like the Pizarro version of "Baby shoes, never worn"
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 03:01:45 BingoBoingo: "Server for sale, in Uruguay" seems like the Pizarro version of "Baby shoes, never worn"
BingoBoingo: "Server for sale, in Uruguay" seems like the Pizarro version of "Baby shoes, never worn"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It came out in duffel run. Was on tiny box I flew in that held first pizarro www and dns server along with first pizarro trb node
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> there;s a reason horses are saddled not stitched to rider's groin << This is rather what Pizarro felt like. I have no intention of getting sewn to a working beast of burden again. I can try riding, but I'd rather not get SEWN because "you're already on the ground and we all got bored/spawned/bumbled etc."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do not want to end up in the saddle of another ad-hoc'd together Pizarro indefinitely dependent on a single orc or golem being ridden until they exhaust.
mp_en_viaje: aite, wouldja mind as part of pizarro continuancy plan getting a shared server ~anywhere online, and bringing the piz shared back online ?