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mircea_popescu: but
the empire assumes
the assumptions
that favour its nonsense, and
they'll have
to be drilled
through.
mircea_popescu: the
trucks dun move until
the money is in, definitely. and so
that's
the point here, peeling more and ever more layers off. when we send bitcoin, we're sending something >
trucks of lcd panels, not something < vogue magazine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, not a matter of soros. a matter of
two
truckloads of screws vs
two piles of "information products".
mircea_popescu: industrial process can't have
this "maybe
the money's
there, maybe
there isn't". so people who actually keep
the shit moving ain't got
time for
the bs. meanwhile non-essential services get shafted all
the
time, nobody cares you sent 10k copies of your extra speshial ladies fashion mag.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, of course
they do. just, not for random dick.
mircea_popescu: yers
they're not going
to fear
that ; or else may ask you whether you agree. but if you don't agree,
the other bank will send ANOTHER request,
to refund and also ban your account. which your bank again, may do even IF
they met your lawyers.
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of rot and bullshit meanwhile baked into
the system, such as, "sepa" (ie, i-can't-believe-it's-not-a-wire eurozone-only ersatz) has a
two week recallable period. other banks may have other arrangements.
the standard is
that
the other bank will ask for
the money
to be sent back "voluntarily" ;
the bank may do it and pretend you agreed -- and feel free
to
take
them
to court, if your lawyers never met
their law
mircea_popescu: the correct approach, of course, is
to not merely have an account with a bank outside of nato reich, but
to have sufficient legal presence
there
that you get
to
the actual bottom of
things with
the bank (ie, not "retail shop clerk
told me some random nonsense he assumed
to be
the case"), and
then only clear
transfers once
the wire has in fact cleared (a signal most banks don't expose
to most customers, because everyone involv
mircea_popescu: s for it back. if you sent it straight
to your dc's account, well,
they may either get
their bank account closed down, or spend however long doing paperwork, neither of which is something
they're ready for, so
they'll conceivably panic.)
mircea_popescu: the point of concern is
that if indeed you are paid with stolen funds, your recourse is very limited (hurr durr, "negrate" guy on web-fake-wot, so what, you invested btc in improving some unalligend bs website ?) and without your own bank account, your ability
to evaluate
the cost of risk is also very limited (dood hijacks some losers windows-broswer-session, sends you 5k,
the bank of
the loser sends it,
then a week later ask
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 00:10 mircea_popescu: re
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813559 : one important palliative measure would be for ben_vulpes
to create a strong presence on localbitcoins, if nowhere else.
there's people
there willing
to do wires for you, and you never know when it comes handy in a pinch.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
ty for
the heads up, got an eta
ben_vulpes: aight great, i'm going
to get
to work on marketing matls/landing page
today
trinque: really depends on whether it's a "throw switch first and ask questions later" or "if somebody whines, you have $duration
to
tell user
to stop"
lobbes: trinque's got a point re: marketing materials. Also, can I get a copy of
the service agreement pizarro has with dc (en español is fine)?
The primary selling point for
the shared hosting is going
to be "host whatever you want", but it obviously cannot be "anything" so salesperson needs
to know
the edges
trinque: i.e. if I ran some ads somewhere, where's
the ad's link end up?
trinque: first
thing a salesman is going
to ask for is marketing material. website with list of offered services would be a good start.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue
to affiliates who've recruited up
to 10 paying customers, 10% up
to 25 paying customers, 15%
to 50 customers and
then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a
tidy .03 btc/mo, way better
than any other "while you sleep" scheme out
there.
shinohai: nah I just unpack stean-latest .deb using `ar x` ...
then cd
to
the resulting usr/bin/ and ./steam
trinque: well
that, and it requires installing a bunch of required libs neh?
shinohai: meh i just unpack
the .deb package and cheat, never given me issues
trinque: these days I rarely find
time for gaming anyway.
trinque: this before I gave up and put a nintendo^wwindows machine on my
toiletnet
trinque: shinohai: looks sensible
to me. eulora will probably be way easier
than steam, obviously, since you can't compile steam yourself. iirc, last
time I put steam on linux, it was in an african linux chroot
Mocky: shinohai,
thanks re: mims warez. I found similar, already a 3rd of
the way
thru. a book hand printed in mechanical pencil... remarkable
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816456 <-- hey, neat archeologgy! may I persuade you
to reflow
the preformatted content somehow (replace pre with blockquote or something else)? it's a pita
to read long log lines on 80 column setups.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: it's so fucking broken a conceit as
to be strictly incompatible with
thought.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, all
these fucktards derping about "regulators". it is strictly impossible
to have anything intelligent or meaningful
to say if it includes
the word "regulator" ; EXACTLY in
the way it was impossible
to say anything intelligent if your verbiage included "phlogiston" a century ago, or geocentrism six centuries ago and so following.
mircea_popescu: and
there is such a
thing as a "bride's shame" plant
too. so yes,
the proposed conceit was
that girls impregnated out of wedlock had
taken as stroll
through a flowery meadow and well... it caught.
mircea_popescu: ro custom actually was, for a long
time,
to give flower names
to kids of unknown parentage.
Mocky: seems quite
thorough
Mocky: a fi copil din flori`to be born on
the wrong side of
the blanket
mircea_popescu: long story short, soviet kids integrated into youth culture faster
than soviet state integrated "soviet world" ;
the result was
the failure of
the soviet state.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: but not
the broad strokes. much like chukcha confronted with car understands ~some~
things about it, but picture chukcha's blog describing cars.
Mocky: what is
the soviet state rock and roll relationship?
mircea_popescu: this paradigm readily explains
the soviet state - "rock and roll" relationship, and moreover
that historical accident had a lot
to do with why alphabet even ~exists~
today. otherwise, on
the naked strength of imaginary "advertising revenue" google is worth ~dozen stackexchanges/slashdots/sourceforges. but, generals always fight last year's war, and so here we are, "bayesian lesswisdom".
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's an item borne of
the fundamentally correct observation
that speed of integration is
the principal predictor of maintenance of statu quo.
mircea_popescu: kinda what
this is about, yes ? admirable
translation from english into orcland of bureaucratese, so
that
the overarching goal of esl bureaucracy (integration of worldwide police state at speed
that exceeds integration of worldwide world in general) can be supported.
mircea_popescu: google
translate works exceedingly well on
text not worth reading.
☟︎ Mocky: not finish, but did actually
take a stab at some ro articles, via google
translate. ha ha so much for google's ai,
translate's not worth a damn
Mocky: less related yes, but I must admit
to spending much longer
than strictly necessary for
this
task via continuing
to read well past
the
topic in mind
mircea_popescu: yeah. kinda
the problem with any attempt at summarizing logs,
there's
this long
tail of ever less related stuff.
Mocky: I saw
the first
two and omitted as not about why.
the last
three did not see, reading now
mircea_popescu: i'm more curious whether you had seen
them. doesn't necessarily have
to be any larger
than it is.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-12 00:38 mircea_popescu: why not read
the documentation ?
a111: Logged on 2015-08-21 03:41 mircea_popescu: yeah. hey, anyone looking for something
to do
that'd be useful and also an incredible walk on coals ?
a111: Logged on 2015-05-01 17:16 mircea_popescu:
the path from
the current FOSS, roughly approximating a spunk-crusted sock floating in a pringles can half full with week old urine
a111: Logged on 2012-08-21 09:20 mircea_popescu: honestly i
thought ruby is dead like ada.
mircea_popescu: mod6, ah, sure. can't say i've
thought about it much nor have an oppinion. just a set of magic numbers afaik.
mod6: doesn't have
to be, just my 0.02
mod6: or, bump it down in
the middle maybe: 5% @ 10, 10% @ 25, 15% @ 40, 20% >= 50 (something like
that)
mod6: Graduate
the scale on
the long end,
tis all.
mod6: Well, if you get 15% when you get
to 50, and 20% at 51. Just
thinking maybe bump it up. 20% at 75 or something.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue
to affiliates who've recruited up
to 10 paying customers, 10% up
to 25 paying customers, 15%
to 50 customers and
then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a
tidy .03 btc/mo, way better
than any other "while you sleep" scheme out
there.
ben_vulpes: yeah,
that's in
the double checking routine
trinque tosses
that one in
the org file
trinque: it's not as
though
the invoice numbers change, just check !!received-invoices first, but sure
Mocky: comments are disabled on
that page, happy
to
take corrections / additions here
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 18:30 asciilifeform: ( folx-on-the-periphery-of-l1 : might be a good use of coupla hrs
to dredge
the logs for 'why ada' material
that could point n00bz
to, e.g.
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682480 )
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the item is fulla all sorts of references, subversions, wordplay etcetera. "ana are mere" is a locus in ro vernacular even
today, for instance.
mircea_popescu: also,
that's not kindergarten. it's 1st year of school, reuniting children no older
than 7 years.
mircea_popescu: for space odyssey human,
turkish delight or
texas steak, still "from earth!"