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ben_vulpes: no but i also don't call that which isn't a plinth a plinth
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562173 << i wanted to show girls the thing (it's fucking pretty, innit ?) these idiots don't even know what it IS. i mean, pharmacists. they go to medical school here. NO FUCKING IDEA! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 16:46 PeterL: If I were a woman, I don't think I would trust the purity of something made in somebodies garage to not have dangerous impurities
phf: wait, i'm missing the punchline. i guess brute force here means, that you don't have an optimal process, but rather exploit given environment to achieve objective no matter what?
PeterL: If I were a woman, I don't think I would trust the purity of something made in somebodies garage to not have dangerous impurities ☟︎
thestringpuller: i guess i still don't grok
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unless tx you craft is gargantuan, I don't see how you couldn't do a partial audit of the non-signed tx that is spit out. in this context it would be best to check against multiple known TRB nodes the tx hashes are valid
phf: you could, but ~i~ don't like that solution because then you're signing blind.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow.
asciilifeform: i still don't fully grasp ~why~ the malleatron fires ONLY when the maker of original tx tries to doublespend own coin by making new one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don';t think the wallet should do only signing. it should also do coinbase selection.
asciilifeform: 'how to be less stupid so i don't have to use the ddt'
asciilifeform: i literally don't give a femtofuck re how many dead peasants n1 rocket was made of.
phf: some kid pulls up with chrome dipped bugatti rims now i'm thinking it's three in the am i'm walking he in a bm drop top 3 and don't even see me but you gonna believe he saw my gun in 3-D ☟︎
asciilifeform: soooo somebody linked this turd, https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/575 , and i read the paper to try an' see how the fuck a gizmo that requires you to send bitcoin to folx you don't know can be 'trust-free'. took exactly 30 seconds to read to the point where it relies on 'timelocked' transactions.
mircea_popescu: they are still turds. i don't want to seek in a fucking 2gb file to find block N
mircea_popescu: and it's also immensely ssd friendly : you don't touch most blocks. say you keep i dunno, 12 or something like that, user-configured, in memory. this way, you only write them to disk once.
mircea_popescu: the thing with the db is, i keep thinking about it and i keep failing to convince myself a db is even needed in the first fucking place. truth be told blockchain is the textbook example of "you don't db this shit son, use the filesystem"
trinque: and even without fancy shit like that, I don't notice a damn thing lagging
trinque: not like I don't want the source, but you understand my meaning
phf: asciilifeform: i don't actually know about that, i gotta try it myself now :) i think we might've both tried it around the same time
asciilifeform: the counter to 'i don't feel any delays' is to sit the 'not feeler' in front of wordperfect on msdos and watch his face as he says 'this dun feel any faster'
mircea_popescu: as far as anyone knows, dog slow kinda means exactly that "irritatingly slow to me", to which "i don't feel any delays" is a valid counter.
phf: trinque: i don't think anyone's telling you what to do, but to honestly consider what you can observe, and compare it to what we can observe. asciilifeform is saying that clim is slow for him, i'm saying that there's something in clim design that makes it tricky to make it fast. it's a converstion.
asciilifeform: and i don't use the terminal emacs either
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. what exactly can it be other than "a text program" ?
danielpbarron: i don't understand what it's referring to
shinohai: anywho is I find a way to contact them I'll hit you up if you don't mind signing a message from that addy.
phf: i don't know what to do with that knowledge, like ark of the covenant, it might be ultimate weapon
phf: hah, that's why i like baba ganoush, but i don't know the recipe for later. when cooked russian style it's somewhat different from what they sell as baba ganoush in u.s.
mircea_popescu: i don't much care for the sweet stuff, so i don't usually eat it. i think it's acquired thanksgiving taste.
phf: i don't get sweet potatoes, i've been trying to work with them, but they don't seem to ever come out tasty. i even tried them as fries..
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: le i don't need one ~that~ bad
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fwiw, i don't think much of ortega y gasset's notions of what makes the man. "sense of duty" my left foot.
mircea_popescu: but it's not at issue whether it's real to me. it's real to you too, and verifiably so by you too, i don't have to enter into it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what he means, tbh. as far as i'm concerned, if she's obedient and tall enough there's exactly nothing more one can ask. if you don't like her tits you talk to a doctor ; if you don't like her ass she works out, each day, every day. all good ass is made not fallen from the sky, there are no excuses. if she doesn't know shit you teach her, if she has bad habits you train her, there's really naught more. this is a belie
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i had nfi. still don't really.
mircea_popescu: in the same vein i don't think i ever discussed the republic so far, a testament to how it's not a household item and so nobody knows to ask. i don't think i much care about anything else, and still i can't bring myself to give a shit about what anyone thinks of these, because why would i ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose they don't show this in general use schematics etc, but the peritoneal cavity is protected in females by strong conjunctive tissue reinforced by a strong muscle that uses the pubis for leverage. you've about the same chances to break into her guts as you have to break a dude's forearm through his bicep.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron wait, so i shouldn't be friends with muslim chicks ? << well you don't believe the Bible, so be friends with who you like i guess
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem either way, really. republican senate discusses and teh lord implementer decides.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: so that there's no repeat of the bickening, is 'in principle bash could work like x' the new way forward ? because i don't at all mind moderating bashes. in fact, i kinda like it. i'm also not entirely persuaded that every last bash contender is worthy of publication, but i grant that it's not ultimately my call. either way, i'm honoured to have contravex serve as host in whatever capacity
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i don't want to expose my actual IP to the world, cause...yea. But the only IP i can forward is an AWS one to my house.
phf: in related news i don't understand punkd. it's a very expensive feature phone. yet one of the top FAQ is "how to reset the software when it hangs". i'm using this guy right now, https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T139-Flip-Phone-T-Mobile/dp/B00387FAC0 it's $30 used (i think it was $25 from t-mobile store, i'm not sure how amazon is selling it for $90) and it never had to be "reset"
phf: (i actually don't know if those $2000 ones are even the same, i vaguely suspect it's just a "high end brand" scam)
mircea_popescu: i use plenty of it. but almost never with people i don't fuck.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why they don't do "acne awareness month", they've done ~about everything else, including "mes del amigo" and whatnot.
ben_vulpes: wait hang on i don't actually care
mircea_popescu: in this particular case, http://trilema.com/2011/arta-pedepsirii/#selection-87.147-91.69 applies. keep your bot where i don't have to whack it, and if you need to ask what that is i'll whack both of you.
phf: asciilifeform: well, like mircea_popescu said above it's not about thiel, it's about whether or not he gets to hang out with rando progre attention whores. of course it doesn't work that way and i don't know why he would want to, but i wouldn't be surprised if in his mind it does. my impression is that he's visibly trying to morph from stormfront "must read litrecha" section to a kind of "let's discuss human nature, surely we all agree"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought you two'd be buttbuddies when i ran into him. i'm genuinely surprised you don't already know each other.
asciilifeform: not 'people i don't know
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i should care what people i don't know wish to preserve ? as it happens, i don't.
mircea_popescu: i don't see he has any way to extricate himself from sending ~half the dem party machine to jail
mircea_popescu: i did not like ripple, as i don't like this, because it requires a level of financial acumen that is not available in the general population
mircea_popescu: i don't use summer right
mircea_popescu: trinque he has a serious issue with things that i don't yet fully grok, but i can not presently distinguish from this irrational meltdown and the irrational meltdown on the gossipd spec.
trinque: if not I don't see how alf says every single comm between all peers gets intercepted readably
thestringpuller: I mean you don't have to use opengl for graphics just use openal's coordinate system on top of SDL
Framedragger: the -soft fork of openal seems very decent enough. i was hoping for something high/lazy-level for graphics so i don't have to deal too much with it (it'd be just 2d shapes anyway, no textures etc, super simplistic), and lower-level for audio so i can mess around with it. openal-soft as of now best contender
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i don't know how it works internally in x220. if i wanted to make sure to not have wifi, i'd remove / physically disconnect the controller, of course..
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not telling him what to do either; i sometimes rant alongside asciilifeform, but i don't actually think gabriel_laddel should be doing something differently.
phf: gabriel_laddel: franz have been living in frontline foxholes since before you knew what a computer was, i don't think masamune is there yet to judge their methods
gabriel_laddel: phf getting some linux boxen from which to host the #sane-clim / #masamune irc channel + logs either this friday or the next. Any chance you'll be releasing the logger at some point so that I don't have to write my own?
trinque: don't ask me; I give shotgun shells to unwanted visitors like any gentleman.
shinohai: Yeah, hence I don't want to screw up a good thing lol by submitting trash all the time
mircea_popescu: and i don't need a wire. i'm just using the wire to loosen headcunts.
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think you appreciate the horror of directx/opengl, for blessed lack of experience. but if you wish to get spooked and not be able to sleep ever again, do review the history of opengl 2006-2016 in context.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/i-dont-think-you-understand-how-credit-cards-work/ << Trilema - I don't think you understand how credit cards "work".
Framedragger: i don't know if it's better, but yeah a cronjob would indeed work. *however*, you then may not get around those exceptional cases where client requests page which is still processing from cronjob request - and cache already expired. unless you set it to be tightly timed i guess?
mats: i don't know that much has changed
mats: on land you'd use passive, reactive armors like ceramics, composites, ERA, i don't think a ship could in practical terms carry it
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i don't archive xcodes
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-14#1555447 << enough to cover whatever expenses it takes to get one to me; i don't mind bees. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i don't really see the point, when you have a real probe
AaronvanW: BingoBoingo: someone mentioned something a couple of days ago. but that was not a connection problem, I just had to step away from my laptop from time to time and logged off when I did. either way I don't think there should be any further problems from here on out.
ben_vulpes: i have been touring random clubs when i take the corvette out for its weekly "please don't freeze up" runs
mircea_popescu: nobody read (and i don't mean act upon, or take seriously, i mean skim through the titles) of any newspaper/magazine/etc in the past decade who wasn't hoping to one day write them.
mircea_popescu: mats i don't get it, dude is excited at diodes ?!
ben_vulpes: trinque: i say don't handle it, expiration is a ridiculous booby trap in gpg and updating is all sorts of fraught.
trinque: I don't see that it means a thing; control of private key is control of private key
mircea_popescu: sense that it makes i don't see sensible.
mircea_popescu: i dunno ... ass training exercises don't just make you better at ass training exercises...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i need roger ver percent because i don't want beer to dictate my body shape! << For eight easy payments of cyan dollars you too can be Roger VERified media Impire editeroror
mircea_popescu: i need roger ver percent because i don't want beer to dictate my body shape!
PeterL: I don't think it matched up with sha2 either
a111: Logged on 2016-10-05 01:05 shinohai: I think pete_dushenski mentioned it, don't quote me on that though.
adlai: what exactly is vomit? please, point out.... or don't. i'm sitting out of this 'argument', have fun.
adlai: mircea_popescu: dude there is tons of 'cut stone' here. i don't expect you to visit the non-WoT p2sh.info, but i'll tl;dr for you: there are currently just over 1.8 million btc secured by the goodwill of miners, and a nested ripemd160(sha256(x)) collision
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553217 << i don't understand what you mean. the only sense in which coins will be "gone" is that whoever knows first that miners stopped enforcing the "op_eval", and knows preimages, can claim the coins for themselves; but they're not 'gone' in the sense of 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-10-05 01:26 asciilifeform: i don't grasp how this kind of thing can work without being a hardfork
asciilifeform: elsewhere, 'It is indeed a great folk song, and although I don't know this as a fact, it seems to have been inspired by a certain depressive tendency surrounding alcohol. Many people don't quite understand this, but alcohol is an intelligence, along with all other vegetable derivatives and extracts. This isn't negative, but you can definitely tell the difference between a sober German musician and the ones who tread into bars for s
asciilifeform: i don't grasp how this kind of thing can work without being a hardfork ☟︎
shinohai: I think pete_dushenski mentioned it, don't quote me on that though. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (and if it did not, i still don't see how glomming bits onto the payload would change the outcome of the verification)
asciilifeform: but no, i don't have access to any amd members-only whatevers.
mircea_popescu: i don't have a middle finger long enough for these fuckers.
mircea_popescu: and i don't just mean the regulars. whole departments of teh usgistan got more education at work than in "college".
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552459 << i don't have statistical statistics on normal connection count but it ~doubled today as well. sustainedly, as well. ☝︎
trinque: ftr I put that comment there. used to be that rotor lacked a -e and so would pass over the boost failing targets silently. while we don't use them, the `|| true` certainly has to go